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AR81

02-13-2002, 12:16 PM

¡Gracias! Usted es muy amable. Yo no sé mucho acerca del español desde que tomé sólo 1 año del español hace mucho tiempo.
Ahora tendrás oportunidad de practicar, si lo deseas. (Now you will have a chance to practice, if you wish)
Te felicito! (Congrats!)
Un año de español es bastante. (One year of spanish lessons is a lot).
Con el tiempo te darás cuenta de que no todo el mundo habla el mismo español. (In time you'll realize that not everybody speaks the same spanish).
Es como el inglés del Reino Unido y el ingles de EE.UU. (It's like english that is spoken in UK and USA).

Recuedo una vez cuando me contaron de un europeo que vino a mi país y aprendió perfecto español, español de España. Cuando llegó había un tipo en el aeropuerto gritando "Dos tejas por jupa pa' chepe" (200 colones por cabeza para San José). No entendió nada y pensó que la academia le había enseñado mal. (I recall I was told about an european guy who came to my country. He learned perfect spanish, spanish from Spain. When he arrived there was a guy in the airport who spoke on loud "200 colones each person to San José" [expressed in popular words]. The european understood nothing and he felt he was cheated by the academy where he learned spanish)

Esta historia ilustra el hecho de que no todos hablan el mismo español. (This story shows that not all people speak the same spanish).

Recuerdo cuando estaba en la escuela primaria, mi maestra contaba que "un día vino un gringo y me dijo que él era un hijuep... me extrañó y le pregunté si sabía lo que estaba diciendo. El contestó que él le había preguntado a unos muchachos por la traducción de 'soy americano' y le respondieron eso. Yo le expliqué lo que significaba y él se dió cuenta de por qué la gente le miraba con extrañeza cuando estaba en el aeropuerto y en la aduana". (I recall when I was in primary school, mi teacher told us that "one day a gringo came and told me he was a son of a ... I though it was strange and I asked him if he knew what he was saying. He answered he asked to some youths about how to say 'I am American' and then they gave him that answer. I explained him what it meant and he knew why people at the airport and custom looked at him with a strange expression in their faces.)

La lección es "aprende siempre de primero las malas palabras de cualquier idioma" (The lesson is "always learn the profane language first")

A propósito, he encontrado dos hipótesis acerca del posible origen de la palabra "gringo". Una de ellas señala que viene de "green coat" y la otra que se refiere a "green go", aparentemente en relación con el color del dólar. No he encontrado a nadie que me pueda confirmar o denegar ninguna de las hipótesis. (BTW, I have found two theories about the possible origin of the word "gringo". One of them suggests that it comes from "green coat" and the other suggests "green go", apparently related to the color of dollar bills. I haven't found anyone who can confirm or deny those theories.)

I guess that would be enough practice for today. ;)

AR81

02-13-2002, 12:24 PM

We are not bureaucratic, we are organized.
We just ocassionally lose documents and data but not always.
Who cares if I forget my code name? That way I will be secret even for me. May be some day I will email to my self a message entitled "for my eyes only" and I will wonder who emailed that, that message will contain "watch 'Total recall'" and I will realize my real name is Arnold Schwarzenegger. :D :D

In the meantime I just know I am an alien from the Independent Republic of Somewhere Else which is located in Planet Reebok in the Nike IV system. :haha: :haha: :weird:

AR81

02-13-2002, 12:31 PM

BTW, I have heard that the Drej entered in contact with the Martians. May be we should look for the inhabitants of the broken moon of Sesharrim which is near Plochda, according to Gune grandfather, who is the uncle of the stepmother of the sister of the father of the nephew of Kat.

Moonsinger

02-13-2002, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by AR81
Ahora tendrás oportunidad de practicar, si lo deseas. (Now you will have a chance to practice, if you wish)
Te felicito! (Congrats!)
Un año de español es bastante. (One year of spanish lessons is a lot).
Con el tiempo te darás cuenta de que no todo el mundo habla el mismo español. (In time you'll realize that not everybody speaks the same spanish).
Es como el inglés del Reino Unido y el ingles de EE.UU. (It's like english that is spoken in UK and USA).

No hay la necesidad de repetir el todo dos veces, ambos inglés y español.

Recuedo una vez cuando me contaron de un europeo que vino a mi país y aprendió perfecto español, español de España. Cuando llegó había un tipo en el aeropuerto gritando "Dos tejas por jupa pa' chepe" (200 colones por cabeza para San José). No entendió nada y pensó que la academia le había enseñado mal.

Adivino que el mismo podría acontecer en cualquier idioma. Las mismas palabras pueden significar diferentemente en lugares diferentes en los Estados Unidos de América.

Moonsinger

02-13-2002, 02:35 PM

¡Eso es también mucho! Vuelvo a hablar inglés ahora.;)

AR81

02-13-2002, 02:42 PM

Yo no sé mucho acerca del español desde que tomé sólo 1 año del español hace mucho tiempo.

Since:
Desde. Estoy esperando desde hace una hora. "Desde" indicates a starting point.
Dado que/puesto que/pues. Yo no conozco, pues no me han informado. "since" could be replaced by "because"
No hay la necesidad de repetir el todo dos veces, ambos inglés y español.
No hay la necesidad de repetir todo dos veces, en inglés y en español.

In spanish the usage of "both A and B" usually is translated as "A and B". i.e. both cars and people are present = Los carros y la gente están presentes, both horses and goats belong to the farm = Los caballos y las cabras pertenecen a la granja.

When you use "Both" alone or with one sustantive you can use "ambos". i.e. both people = ambas personas, both cars = ambos carros.
Adivino que el mismo podría acontecer en cualquier idioma. Las mismas palabras pueden significar diferentemente en lugares diferentes en los Estados Unidos de América.
Supongo que lo mismo podría suceder en cualquier idioma. Las mismas palabras pueden tener diferentes significados en lugares diferentes de los Estados Unidos de América.

No te preocupes, es un excelente repaso y veo que es solo cuestión de pulir un poquito el idioma. Mi dominio del inglés tampoco es muy amplio. De vez en cuando cometo errores ortográficos o semánticos al traducir.

Moonsinger

02-13-2002, 03:03 PM

AR: Thanks for the Spanish lesson.:) I'm going back to learn Spanish one of these days. I always want to master Spanish, I just never have a chance to do it yet.

Originally posted by AR81
Mi dominio del inglés tampoco es muy amplio. De vez en cuando cometo errores ortográficos o semánticos al traducir.
Usted habla inglés mejor que algunos oradores ingleses nativos que sé.

AR81

02-13-2002, 03:30 PM

Usted habla inglés mejor que algunos oradores ingleses nativos que sé.

Sé. From the verb Saber. Saber is related to knowledge.
Conozco. From the verb Conocer. Conocer is related to knowlegde or people you know.

Usted habla inglés mejor que algunos oradores de habla inglesa que conozco.

Thanks, I feel flattered. ;)

When I was learning english I considered me as "graduated" when:

1. I could read and understand a National Geographic. There is spanish translated National Geographic. You may use such test too.
2.When I could understand most of english jokes. Same thing is applicable to you.

I hope things go fine for you. :up:

Moonsinger

02-13-2002, 03:36 PM

Yep, you are definitely an English graduate.:up:

AR81

02-13-2002, 07:13 PM

:D :D :D

kathaksung

02-20-2002, 05:55 PM

Quote," The FBI Special Support Group , or SSG (They're nicknamed G's), supposedly does much of the routine work for the Bureau, leaving the FBI agents themselves free to pursue more important matters. ...

They usually work part-time, and earn about $5,000.00 - $10,000.00 per year or more. The FBI doesn't advertise the existence of the SSG, but it's no big secret either. The reality of the Special Support Group is much different than the "released" information. SSG teams regularly harrass and even menace people on the FBI's Black List. ...

The FBI calls this harrassment "dangling," and they do it on a regular basis to people who frequently have committed no offense other than to have drawn the ire of the Bureau. Many SSG's are of the lowest caliber of human life, especially those chosen for excessive harrassment of innocent citizens. Far too often SSG teams consist of bullies, perverts, racists and ex-convicts and other dregs whose sole purpose is to drive people crazy and ruin their lives. If one of their victims snaps and tears one of them up, the bloodied G will press charges, perjure himself if confronted with his FBI affiliation, and the victim is locked up. Mission accomplished. That's one reason why the FBI is not very open about the SSG. This is just one of the many questionable and outright illegal activities that the FBI uses our tax dollars for. The very people sworn to uphold our Civil Rights are perhaps the most flagrant violators. If you attend a protest rally, or otherwise call attention to yourself, don't be surprised if you start seeing the same bizarre group of people showing up everywhere you go, bothering you and behaving like psychotic clowns."

http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/tradecencrimes/page447.html

kathaksung

02-20-2002, 05:56 PM

On Jan. 28, my thread in more then ten web-sites of different country were removed. (They are Russia, Ukraine, Sweden, New Zealand, South Africa, Nepal.....The owner of all these forum of different countries is same one.) I have posted in the 'open board' of these country's forum for more than 6 months. Which reminds me a 'close for post' ten months ago.

I had same thread in 'Russia.com'. . I found it was closed for post on Mar. 20, 2001. I asked why. Moderator said he did not know, and hinted the problem was in U.S.A.. Later administrator said it was partial right, there was a 'break' from US political issues. Apparently, the pressure came from top ranking. On March 22, news paper said US expelled 50 Russian diplomats for FBI espionage case. It seems that my event is part of government operation. I put the dialogue here. Please notice that the time was a little earlier than the expulsion of Russians.

I asked:
"Why close my post?
My thread "How U.S. law enforcement agent murder people" on March. 18. was closed for post. You can go there to see why they close it. Just because what I said are true, they are scare of it. If you like to see more complete story, see 'My American nightmare' in:
' <http://www.delphi.com/police915> '
20th March 2001 09:55 IP:"

Answer:
benCA Moderator
" I don't know why it was closed but i guess its because it was about some country but russia. don't forget where you are
20th March 2001 10:22"

admin Administrator
" That is partially right, Ben. Russia.com is taking a "break" from US political issues. At this time, it is too hot of a topic for rational discussion. __________________ admin
20th March 2001 19:49 "

Ten months ago, the method they used was mild. Only put a lock on thread, I could still take part in discussion. And they gave a reasonable reason: the side effect of Hansen's espionage case. US was anger at Russia. They didn't touch my thread in other countries boards.

Last month's (later January) attack was severe. They removed everything without leaving a trace. I tried to complain but failed to post, only got a page said:"Sorry! The administrator has specified that you are not allowed to post." The administrator gave me an e-mail which said because my thread was 'anti-u.s. propoganda'.

You can see that 1. Ten months ago none of them thought of using the reason of "anti-US" even it's same message. 2. It was a joint operation which happened simultaneously and used same severe method. Readers knew nothing of what happened. I could not complain even I came back. 3. It happened at a time I predicted in "53. Fear". Part of a frame case. 4. The action was operated by owners. Not moderators. So it's not against any rules, but in politics. Obviously these administrators were intimidated.

Dreadnaught

02-20-2002, 06:57 PM

Kat = stupid

You know why I say this? It's because you post things that prove a point against you. The admins warned you that the boards at Russia.com were for Russian issues only, not US political ones.

So you acted like a ***** and re-posted your old drivel. You weren't listening, so they banned you. Simple as that.

AR81

02-20-2002, 07:55 PM

So Kat, you are posting because you are banned?
Or they removed the post I am currently watching on screen? :weird:

Dreadnaught, Kat <> Stupid, do not offend Stupid. :haha: :haha:

Trip

02-20-2002, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by AR81
Dreadnaught, Kat <> Stupid, do not offend Stupid. :haha: :haha: He left anyways, I don't think he'd mind. :)

Shindigidy

02-21-2002, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by kathaksung

35. A blackmail on 911 WTC bombing

On Sept.24, 2001, my wife received a letter from her credit card company. (I have cancelled all my credit cards long time ago when I knew their dirty methods) With big letters it asks "May we send you a new card?" and suggests to send a new Platinum Visa Business card with a credit line of up to $35,000. My wife does not have a business. And the amount she charged credit card is about 500 each month. In another word, the total amount she charged each year on credit card is only about a tail figure of that offer of each month. I don't know what information the credit card company based on. With my own experience, I knew it's unusual. Since I revealed the dark side of Federal law enforcement agency, I have a feeling they will eliminate those who know my story.

if they are spending so much money tracking you, and systematically eliminating all who "know your story" why dont they just eliminate you and be done with it?

(it would take a load off of the posters here, and lurkers like me. :D)

kathaksung

03-01-2002, 08:22 PM

Shindigidy,

They never stop the murdering attempt. I'm only luchy enogh survived.

ARB81,

You really have a high IQ to get such conclusion. You are too passionate to defend for them. Too bad administor used another reason, (if you read carefully) "anti-America" which means he is patriotic and web-sites belongs to US. His tone is the same like Ashcroft's. Anyone criticizes they eroding civil liberty would be labeled as 'anti-US', 'aiding enemy'. Only one thing is Russian style, censorship.

kathaksung

03-01-2002, 08:23 PM

On Jan. 31, 2001,(the first wave of attack on my thread) one web site I failed to post was Foxnews.com. It's a big firm. So the level of moderator was high too, I suppose. Perhaps they were unwilling to shut down my thread without proper reason. They simply shut down the forum. A message said that "If you are looking for the Foxnews.com and Fox News Channel community message boards, they have been temporarily disabled while we build a new and easier to use format. We'll have them up and running again as soon as we can." This is obviously cover words. The format they had used was a good one which is using now by big firm such like WashingtonPost.com, ..... The promised 'new and easier to use format' never come true. From time to time I went there, found the page of 'temporarily shut down' was still the same, with threads posted on last day (dated Jan. 31) laying there, showed shut down took place abruptly.

Shut down a prosperous message board was by no means an insignificant event. It hurt Fox's fame and popularity. The decision must be from top ranking. It also helped me to strengthen a belief of how FBI control this country.

I learnt that Walter Disney was an informant of FBI. He died in 1960's. I think there were many VIP informant like him worked for FBI. In early 1990, I believe a helicopter accident was a result of a conspiracy of selection for CEO of Disneyland. I had a puzzle then. Whoever selected a CEO would be co-operate with FBI. Why did they select with violence? Unless they needed one whom was more than an informant, that was, a candidate of their own. Walt Disney was an informant, but once he was required to do something which was conflict to the interest of Disneyland, what would he do? He might choose to protect the interest of Disneyland.

HP and Compaq's emerge is a good example of the difference of a CEO and an owner (I can't find proper word for it. I mean someone who has real interest in business.) HP CEO Fiorina proposed to emerge with Compaq, HP heir Hewlett opposes the deal. Fiorina wants to make HP the biggest PC manufacturer. Hewlett think it's too risk to emerge with a rotten business. I think Hewlett is real care for HP's interest. That's because he has big financial interest in HP. (18% of HP's stock) And he has personal feeling on HP. It's a company set up by his father. Same thing like W. Disney to Disneyland. If the deal is a failure, CEO's loss will be much less than him. And she may become a CEO of another big firm.

Through Disneyland's story, I have a feeling that 40 years ago, FBI got VIP of big firm as their informant. 30 years later, they are not satisfy with this, they need a representative of their own interest.
(I have no intention to link HP and Compaq's emerge with FBI at all. It's different from the shut down of message board of Foxnews. I only use it as reference to show that CEO's decision could hurt the company they work for. )

Dreadnaught

03-01-2002, 11:58 PM

Kat, you already talked about some of this stuff. Getting rusty, are we?

Maybe Foxnews...shut down their forums for a while and then re-made them? They certainly have forums, your link is old.

That and you're a nutbag.

Master[\/]][[\][)

03-02-2002, 01:00 AM

Yeah but he's a humourous nutbag :D

I like these rants of his, they are... interesting... to say the least :up:.

sirknight71

03-02-2002, 01:53 AM

oh my....what the heck is going on in here???? This is a very active thread. I think everyone is out to get Kat. Matter of fact they are watching him type as we speak...oh no.....maybe they are watching me type.....ok now im getting scared..think im gonna throw my computer out the window, lock and barricade all the windows and doors, and never ever again go outside..... GROW THE HELL UP!!!!!! WOULD COST LESS THAN $100 TO HAVE YOU GONE OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.....The usa doesnt have time to mess with nutbags like u....

Master[\/]][[\][)

03-02-2002, 01:56 AM

But don't you see? thanks to the intervention of TEMP, the Martians and TIMEX Kat is too important to kill! So they have to use all this money and equipment to convert his mind to their evil and unscrupulous ways!!

termite

03-02-2002, 06:39 AM

Strewth! Is this freakin thread still going?

I may start getting paranoid myself if this thread doesn't die off eventually.

Dr Elephantus

03-05-2002, 07:26 AM

yeh, you got it, this is some joker who posts pages of conspiracy theories on every forum he/she goes to. but in a way it's a good thing, i've also noticed a lot of nastiness coming from some of you. so watch your language, and if you're a racist just keep your mouth shut.

cheater

03-05-2002, 07:53 AM

[i]so watch your language, and if you're a racist just keep your mouth shut. [/B]

Somebody called me?

AR81

03-05-2002, 12:48 PM

No racism from me. I hate everyone (just kidding).

Seriously, it has nothing to do with race. Stupidity has no race.

It is just like a paranoid story about conspiracy theories. I think Kat belief is that he is more important than James Bond.

However he should think he has lots of power because those agencies haven’t killed him yet.

That’s what I would call a virtual “powerful die hard psycho”.

If agencies want anyone dead who might know about him and his theories, then I would be dead and i would be posting in the HeavenNet or HellNet forum.

Those theories are silly stupid rants that would be better for a fiction story than for a normal post.

Dreadnaught

03-05-2002, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by Dr Elephantus
yeh, you got it, this is some joker who posts pages of conspiracy theories on every forum he/she goes to. but in a way it's a good thing, i've also noticed a lot of nastiness coming from some of you. so watch your language, and if you're a racist just keep your mouth shut.

:rolleyes:

AR81

03-05-2002, 05:59 PM

Racist? Hmmm... lemme see...
I had two chinese girlfriends. (one at a time of course)
A friend of mine who is a black man has excellent writing for storytelling.
My mother has some jewish friends.
I have friends from USA, Australia and Europe in this forum.
I guess I just need to meet some alien friends to complete the picture.

You think I am racist?

kathaksung

03-10-2002, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Dreadnaught
Kat, you already talked about some of this stuff. Getting rusty, are we?

Maybe Foxnews...shut down their forums for a while and then re-made them? They certainly have forums, your link is old.

That and you're a nutbag.

So the old forum page they keeping on are used to puzzle me?

Kindly can you provide that new URL?

My old URL for refrence:

http://forums.prospero.com/foxnewsworld/start

kathaksung

03-10-2002, 08:43 PM

In later 1992 and early 1993, I felt unwell and suspected agent using radiation material which hurt my health. I complained. Then in early 1993, the newspaper I used to read, were full of news about deadly radioactive material. Such like "RADIOACTIVE LUMP FOUND IN CHINESE WELL KILLS 3", sick 90. "VIAL OF RADIOACTIVE POWDER LOST" It said that a metal container filled with cesium-137 powder was lost or stolen. People hold it for 30 minutes would result in radiation burns and an increased risk of cancer and would lose their hair if close contact with it for a few days, and probably would die if they stayed in close contact for a week or 10 days. The state Department of Health Services ordered employees to take lie detector tests,.." In 'World Journal'(Chinese) there was an article said a mafia head felt disposed but could not find what's wrong. He at last found his chair was contaminated with radioactive material after he was diagnosed he had cancer. Later I realized it's psychological persecution frequently used by agents to influence people's sentiment through media, it increased my fear then indeed, but also kept me alert on it. Sometime later I had toothache and got my tooth pulled. When someone urged me to wear false tooth, I remembered that story and refused. In 2001, newspaper said John Gotti, an ex-mob boss, died in jail for neck and mouth cancer. Newspaper said it was believed that cancer was caused by dirty false tooth. I believe it was the second edition of that mafia story and thought it might be one of regular practice for agents to wipe out their dislikes.

In early January, 1998, I went to State assemblyman Mike Honda's office to complain about harassment from state government.(I will talk about this story later) Within days newspaper continuously reporting bad news of Honda's proposal in state assembly, said his amendment suffered a major setback and may be dead. I was quite familiar with such negative information war then. It's a tactic of discouragement. In early February, Honda's aid told me he could not handle complaints about FBI, I must seek help from my representative. He gave me the address of Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren.

I went to Zoe Lofgren's office. The staff being responsible for law enforcement agency was not at town. Other staff arranged for an appointment for me for next week(set about on Feb 13). Then on Feb 8, an article in Mercury News shocked me. The title is:"TWO BEST FRIENDS SHARED LIFE, DEATH ", The news said Joni Commons and Elaine Manley White were best friends, old comrades, fellow victims. Linked by Democratic politics, and victim of cancer. They worked for the same politicians, served on the same boards, fought for the same causes.Joni Commons died of a malignant breast cancer on Jan. 29. Elaine White died on Feb. 1, of a malignant brain tumor, The deaths of two were within 65 hours. They met 16 years ago, when Commons was working as an aide to newly elected Supervisor Zoe Lofgren, they worked for Lofgren for about 5 years.

This was a warning to me. It also an intimidation to Lofgren's aids, probably to Zoe Lofgren too, if they would accept my complaint. From my view then, Federal agents control media, manipulate politicians, spread cancer. They are malignant cancer of democratic society.

Dreadnaught

03-10-2002, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by kathaksung
When someone urged me to wear false tooth, I remembered that story and refused. In 2001, newspaper said John Gotti, an ex-mob boss, died in jail for neck and mouth cancer. Newspaper said it was believed that cancer was caused by dirty false tooth. I believe it was the second edition of that mafia story and thought it might be one of regular practice for agents to wipe out their dislikes.

John Gotti is still alive, you moron. He has throat cancer and he can't speak, but he is still alive.

A dirty false tooth can't cause cancer unless it's sandblasted with aspestos or something, you're losing your touch, Kat.:down:

AR81

03-11-2002, 12:03 AM

A dirty false tooth can't cause cancer unless it's sandblasted with aspestos or something
There is no limit for the imagination of a science dummy, I guess Kat got a headache due to an asteroid impact on his head before writing this.

sirknight71

03-11-2002, 02:43 AM

oh no here we go again. go back to writing your book Kat.

Moonsinger

03-11-2002, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by AR81
There is no limit for the imagination of a science dummy, I guess Kat got a headache due to an asteroid impact on his head before writing this.
That would explain why he thinks the governments are after him but failed in killing him. You see, they're really interesting in getting the valuable space rock out of his head in one piece. Shooting him may damage the rock.:D

Dragon Revisited

03-11-2002, 02:53 AM

This thread is still alive? Wow! It's a classic! :up:

Kat needs to hire an assistant to watch the continuity though. He keeps listing these past events, and they're starting to walk all over each other. Maybe the assault by microwave radiation is finally starting to affect his memory. :confused:

Master[\/]][[\][)

03-11-2002, 03:46 AM

We're getting kind of sick of all your radiation conspiracies Kat. Why don't you give us something new like the grassy knoll sending out brain altering mind signals or something to make us all turn into communists in our sleep.

Dragon Revisited

03-11-2002, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by MasterMind
Why don't you give us something new like the grassy knoll sending out brain altering mind signals or something to make us all turn into communists in our sleep.

You know about that one too? :eek:

;)

Just don't let him find out that they're tainting his food to help them control his mind. He might end up starving to death. ;)

Hazir

03-11-2002, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by MasterMind
We're getting kind of sick of all your radiation conspiracies Kat. SEE????? So he is right after all, the radiation makes you sick.

I'm starting to wonder if the guy who's taken people hostage in Amsterdam to protest against widescreen tv's has a similar mindset as Kat.

Dreadnaught

03-11-2002, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Hazir
SEE????? So he is right after all, the radiation makes you sick.

:haha: :haha: :up:

Master[\/]][[\][)

03-12-2002, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by Hazir
SEE????? So he is right after all, the radiation makes you sick.

No really? And here I thought we just used it for cooking our food :rolleyes:.

One_Bad_Aiel

03-12-2002, 05:55 AM

Our resident nutcase is still around. That's good for us.

AR81

03-12-2002, 03:21 PM

An asteroid hit Kat in his head.
The rock is so valuable that no government agency would risk to shoot him because the rock could be destroyed.
Asteroid could be radioactive, Kryptonite may be.
Radiation makes Kat to be sick.

Have you determined that radiation from this rock belongs to the microwave frecuency? If so we have found something that could mean clean enegry to cook our food.

Do you remember where that rock came from? We need to spot the Superman home planet before the bald head villain know how to use kryptonite for their evil purpose. You may call JLA to help you. I guess they would be interested. :D

kathaksung

03-19-2002, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Dreadnaught

John Gotti is still alive, you moron. He has throat cancer and he can't speak, but he is still alive.

A dirty false tooth can't cause cancer unless it's sandblasted with aspestos or something, you're losing your touch, Kat.:down:

You are right, someone told me this. My mistake, impressed too much by the topic and doctor's prediction. I checked the achive, the correct news is:

Quote, "EX-MOB BOSS GOTTI REPORTEDLY DYING OF CANCER

John Gotti, the alleged head of the Gambino crime family who is serving a life prison term for murder, has neck and mouth cancer, and doctors give him less than a year to live,.....

Doctors consulted by Gotti's family believe the cancer can be traced to neglect of his dental implants ....."

Published on October 30, 2000, San Jose Mercury News (CA)

Dreadnaught

03-19-2002, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by kathaksung
In later February, 2000, when I was in Bangkok, I had a continuing cough. It was unusual, because Thailand is a country with warm climate.

Viruses and diseases can't spread in warm weather? I've always been told otherwise.:rolleyes:

Oh Kat, you so crazy/stupid. :p

moviemaniac

03-19-2002, 07:28 PM

uhh ,is kathaksung crazy or just paraniod?http://www.grillsportverein.de/smilies/contrib/edoom/theyareontome.gif

kathaksung

03-19-2002, 08:04 PM

In later February, 2000, when I was in Bangkok, I had a continuing cough. It was unusual, because Thailand is a country with warm climate. After several days, it became worse. I started to worry. Then I noticed the cough always took place when I was outside. And I also noticed the cough stopped when I was inside the reading room. So the problem probably was from the bag. In South East Asia, I always brought a bottle of water when I went outside as well as a tourist guide book which was a thick one. For convenience, I carried them with a bag. I had to deposit the bag at the reception of library when I went inside to read newspaper. And cough would stop then. I washed my clothes everyday, that night, for the first time I washed the bag. I washed it thoroughly, especially the suspender because it cross my breast. It worked. Severe cough stopped next day when I went outside.

But cough came back that night when I went to sleep. I couldn't help to cough once I laid down on bed. After several tests and with experience of yesterday's discovery, I knew what happened and moved to the upper deck. (the bed was a double deck one) I put the lead protection apron beneath me for protection. Lay there I thought a lot. Should I report police? But it was secret police trying to murder me. What would happen if you ask for help from one who try to murder you? It was a way hard to go through.

I didn't change the hotel because I gave the telephone number to my wife, I was waiting for her call. (In cheap hotel, there used to be only one public telephone which could not make international call, but could receive call in.) I asked manager to change room for me. She gave me the one which was next to my original room.

To my surprise, the cough came back again at night. This time it was from my original room. I had presumed they would have moved the radiation contaminated bed away, they hadn't. The man, apparently knew nothing of it, coughing constantly while laying on bed. Since I was under 24 hours surveillance, in my opinion, next room was used to be occupied by undercover agent. At first I thought, how could they be so negligent even hurt their own people. Then I thought, how could he be so stupid, even was not aware of what caused his cough. At last I decided even if he was an undercover, he was innocent of this malicious murder method, I must tell him the dangerous situation he faced. I knocked at his door. A man opened the door, when he saw me, he quickly shut the door before I could speak to him. He knew me and had been warned not to speak to me, that's what I concluded then. To my strange, when I went back to my room, no more sound was heard. Either he was ordered to leave, or he realized where the problem was and slept on upper deck. I never know. I had a puzzle until now, was that man a dislike of secret police?

Next day at entrance when I was waiting for phone call, a lady with a bagage came in. She asked me to help her to bring the bagage to second floor. (All bedrooms were in second floor) It was a heavy bagage. I estimate it must have been more than hundred pounds while I dragged it to upper floor. I wondered how could she move such a hevy bag into the hotel. I suspect there might be a metal container inside with radiactive material. Once again, I asked manager to move me to another building though I had to pay double price. One day later, when I saw a lot of customers in that building checking out, I left too, with fear.

During the period I was in Thailand. There was an event of radiation killing. Someone picked up a metal container and sold it to junk handler. Nobody knew the material stored inside was isotope until people got sick and death occurred. The isotope was from an import company which was accused of negligence of storage dangerous material. It was a big topic in newspaper when I were in Thailand. I suspect there was links between the two events.

Dreadnaught

03-19-2002, 10:08 PM

Whoa, Kat, what did you do? You deleted the post I replied to and then re-posted it...what did you change? I can't find anything different...

Hazir

03-20-2002, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by Dreadnaught
Whoa, Kat, what did you do? You deleted the post I replied to and then re-posted it...what did you change? I can't find anything different... Thát's because of the radiation damage to your head.

AR81

03-20-2002, 01:54 PM

A few lighter characters in the screen would mean some more radiation for Kat so I guess that's why he deleted the post.

Kat is crazy AND paranoid.

I started a rant thread some time ago, entitled "State: The basis of civilization" due to lack of sleep and it had not the continuity this thread just had. D@mn it!! :D

This is the largest rantified thread in the history of humanity.

Shindigidy

03-25-2002, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by kathaksung
Shindigidy,

They never stop the murdering attempt. I'm only luchy enogh survived.

ARB81,

You really have a high IQ to get such conclusion. You are too passionate to defend for them. Too bad administor used another reason, (if you read carefully) "anti-America" which means he is patriotic and web-sites belongs to US. His tone is the same like Ashcroft's. Anyone criticizes they eroding civil liberty would be labeled as 'anti-US', 'aiding enemy'. Only one thing is Russian style, censorship.

kat, if they wanted you dead THIS MUCH they would have just dropped a bomb (or even a heavy object) on it. or they would have arrested you at the very least.

AR81

03-25-2002, 03:09 PM

In the very first moments I thought kat was "anti-American" but later I realized that it is just a nutcase. He could claim that he is "anti-Vega" or "anti-Klingon" and that won't change my opinion.

BTW, I am not puppet of no one.

Hazir

03-25-2002, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by AR81
In the very first moments I thought kat was "anti-American" but later I realized that it is just a nutcase. He could claim that he is "anti-Vega" or "anti-Klingon" and that won't change my opinion.

BTW, I am not puppet of no one. So you are the puppeteer ?

Dreadnaught

03-25-2002, 03:41 PM

:eek:

AR81

03-26-2002, 12:31 AM

So you are the puppeteer ?
Yeah! I am the mastermind of the alien invasion. You are under my control. Your bug brains can't resist the power of the force. You are now MINE!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (evil grin)

(notice that being in contact with this thread might render a regular like me completely nutty, so for your own safety... RUN LIKE HELL!!! AAARGH!!)

Master[\/]][[\][)

03-26-2002, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by AR81
(notice that being in contact with this thread might render a regular like me completely nutty, so for your own safety... RUN LIKE HELL!!! AAARGH!!)

You mean you weren't nutty before this thread? :confused:

Anyway I thought you were trying to stop the alien invasion. You need to stop contradicting yourself, you're almost becoming as bad as kat.

Master[\/]][[\][)

03-26-2002, 01:06 AM

Unless...

*gasp* :eek: AR81 is opposing the Martians so he can make way for the Venusians!!!!! :eek:

Hazir

03-26-2002, 03:29 AM

Originally posted by MasterMind

You mean you weren't nutty before this thread? :confused:
Maybe the killer-radiation is thread-specific ?

AR81

03-26-2002, 08:59 AM

I am against alien invasion. I just became a puppet of an alien who used my keyboard to type such a stupid message. I was assimilated...

Master[\/]][[\][)

03-27-2002, 02:22 AM

Oh. So then the Martian invasion is still on track?
You TIMEX agents don't seem to be making much headway against TEMP :confused:.

AR81

03-27-2002, 09:29 AM

Oh. So then the Martian invasion is still on track?
Yeah, martians attempted to send us some killer tomatoes but we stopped the invasion.
Later they sent us some bugs on an asteroid but the asteroid passed 288000Km away from Earth past march 8th. Else we should have to blow the asteroid using our cloaked spaceships in orbit. Spaceships are equipped with a "digger probe" which land on the asteroid and dig using a preprogrammed pattern and it detonates and blow the asteroid from inside. The digger probe is another invention of mine.

I have saved the Earth fromthe evil martians.

kathaksung

03-28-2002, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by Dreadnaught

Viruses and diseases can't spread in warm weather? I've always been told otherwise.:rolleyes:

Oh Kat, you so crazy/stupid. :p

When I today found that you quote my message posted 40 minites later than Yours, I am in big surprise. Either you have magic power of Harry Porter or had been tipped by a FBI who was monitoring on me?

03-19-2002 04:23 PM (your message quote from my message which posted 40 minites later which was put on:
03-19-2002 05:04 PM )

No wonder you are a main power of harassment.

kathaksung

03-28-2002, 09:28 PM

On Sept 30, 1992, I was astonished to read an article on Mercury News. The topic was "Activist to sue FBI over bombing of car." Judi Bari was an environmentalist who was against logging company. She organized Redwood Summer in 1990. She received several death threats and then on May 24, 1990, a bomb exploded in her car which shattered her pelvis. Within hours, while she was still in coma in hospital, investigators issued a warrant labeled she was a violent terrorist for transporting the bomb that injured her. However, D.A.'s office refuse to file charges for lacking of evidence. The person planting the bomb was never found. Two years later Bari and another bomb victim sue FBI and Oakland police for false arrest, illegal searches and violation of their civil rights. Bari said "It's terrifying to stand up against FBI. Who tried to frame me for the bombing of my life."

At that time, I was complaining at Government office that FBI and DEA using isotope money which hurt my health and then trying to murder me by radioactive material. (I was not aware of the other high tech. weapon killing then yet) I knew how evil they were. But did Bari know what danger she was facing? I really worried for Bari's safety. I kept that newspaper.

It was dismay to learn her death. "CANCER KILLS EARTH FIRST! ACTIVIST BARI ". On March 3, 1997, San Jose Mercury News wrote, " Bari, 47, died less than 48 hours after her attorneys pleaded with a federal judge for a speedier review of the 6-year-old civil rights lawsuit."

On Oct. 8, 2000, another news caught my eye. "Pratt, new book examines role of FBI." It said that Pratt, ex-Black Panther activist, was sentenced to death about 30 years ago for a murder case. As a matter of fact. He was in a meeting in Oakland the night murder occurred, hundred miles from murder site. FBI wiretapped the meeting but hid the tape. Further more, FBI even planted letters to convince the group's already paranoid leaders that Pratt was against them. So they refused to testify for him.
If US Supreme Court had not temporarily suspended capital punishment in early 1970s, the government would have executed an innocent man."

I sent an E-mail to writer of Mercury News. Wonder why FBI could use all dirty methods to frame people, it's no other than attempted murder. The reply mail said, anyway, FBI would pay settlement for the case, "THAT'S A DEVELOPMENT". It seems FBI and other Federal law enforcement agency are outlaws. They could plant, frame, murder without being punished. Once it was revealed, nobody has to be responsible for the crime. And if they paid victims some compensation, that became a development, even the money was come from tax-payers. Pratt luckily survived, Judi Bari hadn't . How many innocent people died in black box practice? And how many will be the next?

Dreadnaught

03-28-2002, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by kathaksung

When I today found that you quote my message posted 40 minites later than Yours, I am in big surprise. Either you have magic power of Harry Porter or had been tipped by a FBI who was monitoring on me?

03-19-2002 04:23 PM (your message quote from my message which posted 40 minites later which was put on:
03-19-2002 05:04 PM )

No wonder you are a main power of harassment.

Forgive the huge letters, but

Are you ****ing kidding me, Kat?

At 3/19/02 at 10:08, I said:

"Whoa, Kat, what did you do? You deleted the post I replied to and then re-posted it...what did you change? I can't find anything different..."

So you delete your post, re-post it, and then say that I'm some kind of agent. :rolleyes: I should have spotted that you would try something stupid like that, wow that's really blatent, Kat. You are quite the foolish one.

AR81

03-28-2002, 09:56 PM

No wonder you are a main power of harassment.

Then he has been harassing us (gamers and specially newbies) with tech comments regarding the game Independence War. I recall a time when he replied in less than 10 minutes some years ago. It was a thread regarding a mission I couldn't pass in the game. He gave some leads about how to pass that mission. Could it be considered as newbie harassment?

He has been here doing such a quick replies for a long time so I guess he waited for more than 2 years for your posts. Imagine that, more than 2 years of a lifetime specially for you. If that's the case I would call him the guardian of the net. He shouldn't be a good guardian only but he could be good at prophecies. "Thou shall see the day when the man haunted by the entire human race will come to your forum".

Oh! BTW! Dreadnaught is a respectable member of this forum in case you don't know. I guess you will add such a quick reply to the list of your **adjective** conspiracy theories.

Please fill "**adjective**" with whatever word you want.

Dreadnaught

03-28-2002, 10:50 PM

Thank you for the voucher, Alpha. :)

One of Kat's main problems is that he thinks he matters a lot more than he does, that he's in the center of something. Like when he thought that Dan Rather (a semi-famous comentator in the US) was working with the FBI directly against Kat because Kat sent him a letter. :rolleyes:

Mehrunes

03-29-2002, 12:27 AM

Who's Harry Porter? And can I be a main power of harassment too? :)

sirknight71

03-29-2002, 01:22 AM

I figured that the governement would have gotten kathaksung by now. :D

AR81

03-29-2002, 09:02 AM

One of Kat's main problems is that he thinks he matters a lot more than he does
Indeed. How much money is required to dedicate at least 3 agents, a van, a hellicopter and expensive hi-tech equipment... oh, and a couple of internet agents to locate unsuccessfully locate him once he had registered 2 IP address in this forum.
Who's Harry Porter?
The one who came up with the Porter theory about how a manufacture company works. It is a magical old fashioned model that some consultants who have made no research about administrative models still apply as the ultimate resource of consulting.
I figured that the governement would have gotten kathaksung by now.
They can't. He is under the protection of martian forces based on the moon.

Dreadnaught

03-29-2002, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by AR81

Indeed. How much money is required to dedicate at least 3 agents, a van, a hellicopter and expensive hi-tech equipment... oh, and a couple of internet agents to locate unsuccessfully locate him once he had registered 2 IP address in this forum.

Not to mention a time traveler like me who can read Kat's messags before he posts them!:rolleyes: :D

AR81

03-29-2002, 01:19 PM

Dready, so you are a time travele too. What timeline agency do you belong to? TIMEX, TEMP, STAR? Or you are simply a time VIP who spend vacations in a different time?

Are you against the evil martians?

Moonsinger

03-29-2002, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by Loki the Great
Any stock tips?:)
Sorry, tempo directive! Can't tell you.;)

Dreadnaught

03-29-2002, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by Loki the Great

Any stock tips?:)

Naw, they just allow me to see Kat's posts. The bastards, I'm almost willing to pay them to not let me see Kat's posts. :D

Hazir

03-29-2002, 09:39 PM

Did the feds finally get him or is he just taking his time to write the next instalment?

Master[\/]][[\][)

03-30-2002, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by AR81
They can't. He is under the protection of martian forces based on the moon.
His madness had progressed that far? How could Kat betray us to the Martians?
he has no idea what he has done :cry:.

Mehrunes

03-30-2002, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Loki the Great

Any stock tips?:)

As your local main power of harassment I suggest you buy AMD in December. Yield to the power of the Hammer, baby! :)

AR81

03-31-2002, 09:03 AM

Kat, seriously, I guess you might have passed through stressing situations at a given time, but being paranoid has no sense unless you have committed criminal acts.

If you are innocent time will reveal it.

If you were involved with criminals, fear those criminals.

What I mean is that living a paranoid life makes no sense. Try to see life from a different perspective. A happier one.

Master[\/]][[\][)

04-01-2002, 06:09 AM

What I mean is that living a paranoid life makes no sense. Try to see life from a different perspective. A happier one.
Indeed. Lay off the marijauna, it'll lessen the paranioa and make you sane again.

Then you can take up mushrooms instead ;).

AR81

04-01-2002, 09:34 AM

Well, once I became addict to cookies. I ate cookies like crazy.
Then I changed cookies for something worst: grapes (they are expensive) and I loved grapes, not wine.

Later I became addict to computer games. Oh God!! What will be next!!!:eek:

kathaksung

04-08-2002, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Dreadnaught

Forgive the huge letters, but

Are you ****ing kidding me, Kat?

At 3/19/02 at 10:08, I said:

"Whoa, Kat, what did you do? You deleted the post I replied to and then re-posted it...what did you change? I can't find anything different..."

So you delete your post, re-post it, and then say that I'm some kind of agent. :rolleyes: I should have spotted that you would try something stupid like that, wow that's really blatent, Kat. You are quite the foolish one.

Why should I delete my post, then re-post it? To set you up? That's what FBI behavior. It seemed that there is no delete function in this web-site. Can anybody show me how to delete a message?

kathaksung

04-08-2002, 08:37 PM

About in early April, 2000, when I was still in panic mood of Thailand event, I read a news from a Chinese newspaper that FBI director Freeh would resign from his post, because FBI abused their power to a man whom bought a house which FBI wanted. It was a strange news. I had a strong feeling the article was for me. In US, when I complained in government office, FBI could cover it up with their power. In Thailand, I complained to US Embassy, then seeking asylum. It seemed that they couldn't cover it up anymore. Someone had to take responsibility. As for the house, there were something unusually took place when I bought it in 1985. But I could never expect it would bring me such a disaster. (I would talk about it at very last in my thread) However what the newspaper said didn't come true then. Freeh still stayed at his post.

On July,2000, I went back to US. I learnt that in 1999, when I just left US, all three old people of neighborhood died. (see "10. The death of the old people". ) On July, 1999, Jr.Kennedy died in airplane's accident. They felt they were unable to control me abroad as they did in USAand feared I would reveal their criminal activities. They worried about Jr. Kennedy's political potential.

Feeling they would frame a big case to silence those whom knew my story. I started to post my experience in internet in later 2000.

On April, 2001, both directors of FBI and DEA announced resignation. Freeh left on June, two years short of his ten years tenure. I alleged they plotted a big drug case to frame me and person in the know on the month he leaving. (see 'Why DEA, FBI involved in secret deal of spy plane?' in my web-site.) It seemed they would attribute the responsibility to person whom left from his post.

After I posted my opinion that anthrax attack was done by Federal law enforcement agency, I felt strong murder threaten. I had said they probably would have done it in late January. It didn't happen, but there did be a big attack on my thread in internet. Then in early February, the chief of FBI Sacramento office said he would retire in May. They never stop persecution. Will there be another plot designed for him to take responsibility? Because once there is a responsibility taking, there would be a wrong doing. In most condition, it is killing to silence. Though under the coverage of suicide or other form they designed.

Hotfoot

04-08-2002, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by Hotfoot
Watch this post magically disappear! Woowoo! It's the magic edit faries come to make us all their slaves for hot monkey sex and terrorizing Kat! Weeeee!!

Wait, it's not gone anywhere! Where is it? ONO!!!!

sirknight71

04-08-2002, 08:53 PM

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: This guy cracks me up!!!

Mehrunes

04-08-2002, 09:58 PM

Dreadnaught

04-08-2002, 10:36 PM

:haha: :haha:

Hotfoot- :up:

AR81

04-08-2002, 11:33 PM

I consider myself as somehow freaky and nutty but this kind of threads make me feel more like a normal individual.

Master[\/]][[\][)

04-09-2002, 02:17 AM

There is no such thing as normal anymore. The twilight zone has spread into our dimension and now there are only varying degrees of weird.

AR81

04-09-2002, 10:22 AM

Twilight zone? Is that another timeline? I will have to report this to TIMEX HQ!!:eek: :p

Hotfoot

04-09-2002, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by mehrunes

Again with the monkeys... Bloody hezmata! What the frell is your obsession with hot crackmonkey sex? :p

Have you ever had hot crackmonkey sex? http://www.realmofconfusion.com/phpBB/images/smiles/naughty.gif

kathaksung

04-18-2002, 07:25 PM

On Nov. 12, 2000, San Jose Mercury News carried such an article. Topic: " Killing Pablo" It said "Pentagon officials were concerned that US forces were possibly violating a presidential directive that prohibited American involvement in assassinations of foreign citizens. " To kill Columbia drug lord Pablo Escoba, US government spent millions in a covert operation in which a secret group assassinated about 300 people. No one was ever prosecuted. US ambassador, DEA, special force of pentagon were involved. The full extent of the US role has never been made public. Then why do they reveal this questionable maneuvers? To let people know some aspect of dark side of government? That's their taboo. Consider media are in the hold of intelligence. It's unusual.

I started to write about my experience in internet on September. I realized those Federal law enforcement agency were in panic. They couldn't wait any longer. Article "Killing Pablo" was a warning to other government department, 'you committed crime overseas, now I will commit mine, don't interfere. ' It seemed they would frame a drug case and silence those who are witness of my story. But how did they murder citizens in their own countries? Most of them are still young.

In early January, 2001, Clinton issued an order, creating a new czar with a broad mandate, namely, to identify potential security threats and vulnerabilities. It oversaw all intelligence include CIA, FBI. Freeh became the czar. Which meant FBI could carry out their plan without obstacle then. I think this 'counter intelligence' post was created for the particular purpose of this frame case. There is no news about this post ever since, and three months later, Freeh resigned his post of FBI director.

On Jan. 21, S.J.M.N. reported "Feds widen Nuestra Familia probe", it said federal attorneys in Northern California were dramatically expanding their charge to gang members and attempting to penetrate its leadership within Pelican Bay State Prison. This may lead to the first federal death penalty trial in the Bay Area in decades. The unusual thing was why the federal government using its resources to go after a state prison gang. Local atterney puzzled, "how this became a federal issue. A prison gang is a state problem."

I could resolve this problem. It would be a murder for less penalty bargain between federal law enforcement agency and prison gang. In 'Killing Pablo', I learnt they would frame a drug case to kill many people. I also knew they used to murder people by "suicide" in jail. But they can't say all people died "suiciding", by then I realized they would kill by the hands of prison gang.

About at same time a TV news impressed me which said City of San Francisco announced that they forbid walking dog on beach to prevent they bitting people. A doubt in my mind was immediate, "Absurd rule. If people can't walk their dog on broad beach, they 'll walk dogs on crowded street. The rule creating more chance for dog to bite people." Several days later, on Jan 26, two dogs mauled a woman to death. What shocked me was not my doubt came to true, it was the background of the owner of the dogs. They were lawyers. They have an inmate as their adopt son named Schneider. Schneider was infamous among inmates and prison authority. He is serving a life sentence for stabbing a prison guard and stabbing an atterney in courtroom. He was in Pelican Bay State Prison. He is a member of Aryon brotherhood gang.

It seems they were picking up possible murderer whom fit their demand. In "Fear of frame", I expressed my worry. And in message "10. the death of old people", I expressed I feared they would kill by the hands of gang.

kathaksung

04-18-2002, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Hotfoot

Sorry, that's bull****. The delete post feature is pretty ****ing obvious from the edit menu. No delete function my ass, watch this.

When you get into delete function, there is only two choices: "save changes", "reset message". If you delete the message, than a box appeared, saying "Please complete the message field". So it's inpossible to delete the whole message, only edit.

TRY FIRST THAN POST A REPLY.

Hotfoot

04-18-2002, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by kathaksung

When you get into delete function, there is only two choices: "save changes", "reset message". If you delete the message, than a box appeared, saying "Please complete the message field". So it's inpossible to delete the whole message, only edit.

TRY FIRST THAN POST A REPLY.

You idiot. I did delete a whole message! In fact, why don't you look back to try and find the message you quoted? Gee, where did it go?

That makes two I've deleted. Do I have to draw you a ****ing picture?

AR81

04-18-2002, 08:10 PM

That makes two I've deleted. Do I have to draw you a ****ing picture?
I can't find the "Submit Reply" button to post this reply. As soon as you finish Kat's pic, could you draw me one about posting?:eek: :weird: :D :p

Hotfoot

04-18-2002, 08:23 PM

http://www.realmofconfusion.com/kathakdumbass.jpg

Note the clearly labeled delete function at the top of the page, Kat. I even took the time to circle it and point to the two key parts that make it work.

How the **** do you think you're smart enough to warrent being a threat to national security if you can't even see the delete function when it's right in front of you? How the hell can FBI and CIA spooks get made by you when you're this oblivious to the world around you?

Get real, Troll.

AR81-shh, don't tempt me. ;) :p

Coolie

04-18-2002, 09:17 PM

Lol!!:haha: :haha: :bulb:

Mehrunes

04-18-2002, 09:22 PM

Forget the Government. It's Microsoft you should be worried about. They just twisted my arm until I relented and bought Windows XP. Sure it hasn't crashed yet, ok maybe it's more reliable overall. But what's with these sickeningly soft blue task bars? Where are my incredibly annoying question and critical error sounds? Why does everything have to be so disgustingly well organized? It's a conspiracy, I tell you! A conspiracy to sap our bank accounts, and our sanity! :eek:

Croi Makin

04-18-2002, 09:28 PM

Somebody delete this thread.

(BTW..why on earth would you buy XP?)

Mehrunes

04-18-2002, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by Croi Makin
Somebody delete this thread.

(BTW..why on earth would you buy XP?)

Bah! Plate this thread in gold and hang it in the Thread Hall of Fame for all to see. It's a monument, both to free speech, and free minds. :)

Oh, I build my own systems, and I had lots of RAM and needed a new hard drive so I figured I'd throw XP into the bundle. As I told you it's a conspiracy. ;)

Croi Makin

04-18-2002, 09:43 PM

;) My point was why buy it when you can get it for free?

Captain Anon

04-18-2002, 09:44 PM

Hotfoot- Love the file name for that pic. :D

Mehrunes

04-18-2002, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Croi Makin
;) My point was why buy it when you can get it for free?

Didn't know I could. :confused:

Croi Makin

04-18-2002, 09:51 PM

Hehe. ;) Just gotta know the right people. My hookup had XP Pro three months before it was released.

Coolie

04-18-2002, 10:01 PM

heck, the whole of dalnet had XP before it was released.....

And mehrunes, at least tell us that u got the 'workaround' to XP's registration system.... If you gotta mess with fire, at least tame it first....

Mehrunes

04-18-2002, 10:10 PM

Umm, I've got no idea what you two fellas are talking about. Uh-huh, yep.

*smiles while backing slowly out of the room*

Dreadnaught

04-18-2002, 10:30 PM

Hotfoot- :up: :)

AR81

04-18-2002, 10:42 PM

Microsoft made Windows... and since then computers have the same performance, no matter how much CPU speed you have.
Microsoft made Mechwarrior 3... And the gameplay was lost.
A conspiracy against users...

CNN published an article about FBI warning about security problems of WinXP. I forwarded that link to the Systems Department at work and they wanted to ask Microsoft. Microsoft personnel answer suggested that CNN was a liar.

Is CNN a liar? Is russian sub still intact? Was there a persian gulf war in the 1990s? If CNN is a liar then nothing like that happened.

Who is telling the truth? Microsoft or CNN?

AR81

04-18-2002, 10:58 PM

Somebody delete this thread.
Kat will not find the delete buttons. My guess is Kat can't see green color... and white color. Every post without deletion in this thread will be a step to confirm my theory.

Plate this thread in gold and hang it in the Thread Hall of Fame for all to see. It's a monument, both to free speech, and free minds.
Definitely this post is a monument to censorship. We have politic declarations of Kat, we have silly time travel agencies theory (of mine), we have a discussion about the Microsoft conspiracy against the world, we have a flame war... we just need pr0n and explicit violence to complete the picture.Love the file name for that pic.
What does a donkey have to do with this thread? :D :D :D

May I suggest this thread is a Windows bug?
Kathaksung wrote:On Nov. 12, 2000, San Jose Mercury News carried such an article. Topic: " Killing Pablo" It said "Pentagon officials were concerned that US forces were possibly violating a presidential directive that prohibited American involvement in assassinations of foreign citizens. " To kill Columbia drug lord Pablo Escoba, US government spent millions in a covert operation in which a secret group assassinated about 300 people. No one was ever prosecuted. US ambassador, DEA, special force of pentagon were involved. The full extent of the US role has never been made public. Then why do they reveal this questionable maneuvers? To let people know some aspect of dark side of government? That's their taboo. Consider media are in the hold of intelligence. It's unusual.
Let druglords burn in hell!!
BTW, Pablo Escobar is the name of the druglord, nor Pablo Escoba, whoever wrote those word not even had good spanish grammar. If it was a news reporter, shame on him for his grammar.

As for druglords, you should see the social problems drugs cause to a 3rd world country. When you do, you might say "Burn them in hell".

I guess using microwaves to slowly kill a druglord would be interesting, BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! **evil grin**

Mehrunes

04-18-2002, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by AR81
Microsoft made Windows... and since then computers have the same performance, no matter how much CPU speed you have.
Microsoft made Mechwarrior 3... And the gameplay was lost.
A conspiracy against users...

CNN published an article about FBI warning about security problems of WinXP. I forwarded that link to the Systems Department at work and they wanted to ask Microsoft. Microsoft personnel answer suggested that CNN was a liar.

Is CNN a liar? Is russian sub still intact? Was there a persian gulf war in the 1990s? If CNN is a liar then nothing like that happened.

Who is telling the truth? Microsoft or CNN?

Read through kathaksung's posts replacing law with "Microsoft", police with "WinTroopers" and government with "Bill Gates", and everything will become clear. :)

AR81

04-18-2002, 11:10 PM

Read through kathaksung's posts replacing law with "Microsoft", police with "WinTroopers" and government with "Bill Gates", and everything will become clear.
I have some questions:

What does Pablo "Escoba" (sweeper) have to do with Microsoft?

Is Microsoft trying to slowly kill Kathaksung using microwaves? I thought they would use Kat's monitor emissions to kill him instead of his mirowave oven.

"Killing Pablo"
My name is Pablo, but my last name is not Escobar. Pablo Escobar is a dishonor to all Pablos in the world. Pablo translation is "Paul". As you see, it is a common name, but not as common as "José".

Why Kat wants to kill me? Why are WinTroopers in panic with the posibility of Pablo's death? I have a theory. WinTroopers wouldn't know who is creating those silly theories about time travel agencies.

I am paranoid!! Kat wants to kill me!!! **AR81 run like hell**

AR81

04-18-2002, 11:25 PM

As soon as I posted some criticism about Kat, AR81 suffered "Reset by peer" disconnection. As AR81 attempted to connect it refused to connect to ISP servers.

After some attempts, AR81 attempted to post this but servers were not transmitting data so the post could not be submitted.

AR81 suspects were that Kat wanted to kill AR81 for revealing some secret about Kat. AR81 suspected that Kat has more technological advanced computer software tools (other than microwave oven software) to locate AR81's IP, map and jam his computer and deny connection from his phome number.

AR81 suspected we could not only have here a nutcase but a crazy computer killer who is specialized in saved games termination. AR81 recommend all players to backup saved games before they are deleted and before AR81 will be dead for revealing this secret about Kat.

Kat posts about FBI and US are just the smoke screen to capture and delete saved game data from everyone here.

**Reset by peer**

Master[\/]][[\][)

04-19-2002, 02:35 AM

Unfortunately for AR81 he had really become a victim of MasterMinds latest ploy to rule the world.
"This plan cannot fail, soon the world will be mine!!!" He thought "By resetting everyones connection all the time I will cause civil unrest, thereby causing an internet revolution of a completely different kind mwahahahaha!"
"I'm hungry" He muttered to himself as we went off in search of some fish and chips.

AR81

04-19-2002, 02:59 AM

Mastermind. The conqueror!! Aaargh!! I am doomed!!!:p

Hazir

04-19-2002, 03:54 AM

Kat is not dead, he just moved his activities to a different forum. I came accross his nonsense on the Independent forum.

termite

04-19-2002, 07:40 AM

kathakdumbass.jpg

:haha:

Very nice work hotfood.:up:

:p

AR81

04-19-2002, 10:20 AM

Kat is not dead, he just moved his activities to a different forum. I came accross his nonsense on the Independent forum. The annoyance has moved.

AR81

04-19-2002, 11:41 AM

I have realized that the evil martians could also be responsible for kat being brainwashed to reset my connection. That is martian harassment. Now I know why we have never been able to sucessfully survey Mars surface.

kathaksung

04-29-2002, 05:02 PM

Hotfoot,

Thanks for information. I didn't know it was hidden in upper part. I only tested in usual way in 'edit', it didn't work. Anyway, I never have used this function. You seem to be familiar with technic and even could drew the whole page for illustration. Are you one of surveillance team which monitor the internet so you could see the content before I posted it.

kathaksung

04-29-2002, 05:07 PM

There is another reason for them to frame the owner of the dog. Knoller and Noel are lawyers. Noel once had been a lawyer in President Nixon's Justice department. The couple then were practising their business by representing inmates and correction staff in lawsuits against the state government.

In Won Ho Lee's case, though FBI had no evidence, they still determined to frame him. Even CIA had warned FBI that Lee case was flawed. What FBI did was when they threw Won Ho Lee in prison, a news was spread that former CIA chief committed same crime as Lee, down loading classified document without permission. Were they intending to enforce law on former CIA chief? Of course not, it's same game they had played when publishing news "Killing Pablo". An intimidation of "no intrusion". Won Ho Lee could have been spent the rest of his life in jail if he had not a daughter. Lee's daughter is an undergraduate. She tried her best and found her father a good lawyer. The lawyer proved FBI agent's testimony was inaccurate and exaggerated. Lee's daughter played an important role in Lee's release, as well as a good lawyer.

In April, Freeh announced he would leave his post in June. Then they suddenly delayed McVeigh's execution date from May 11on to June 11. I alleged they planed to cover the murder by a big event which would attract public's attention.

On April 20, newspaper reported there were racist graffiti recently in Standford University against Asian. On June 10, an ethnic Chinese, 21 years old film student was shot in head and died outside a nightclub. But friends standing nearby and hundreds of bar patrons said they saw no gunman. Newspaper said, "Police described Maria Hsiao as "crystal-clear, a random victim". setting off a rare homicide investigation in a city known more for serenity and Stanford University than violence." Just like they did in other murder cases, they always pre-prepared a reasonable situation. If they are performing a fluorescent lamp killing, they have a news of "solar storm attacking earth" in advance, make death look like a stroke. If they are going to kill by EM wave, they will produce "meningitis" cases. This time, they made a background of racial random killing. Maria Hsiao, unfortunately, became a scapegoat.

My nephew, like Won Ho Lee's daughter, was an university student. He studies in Stanford University. He is the son of my youngest sister. And I talked about them in previous message, they are the target of FBI and DEA, because they are rich. Federal agents seemed considered everything in advance to make it a perfect frame case. Yet there were flaws.

AR81

04-29-2002, 05:43 PM

This thread is another proof that there is freedom of speech. Some guy comes here to a place filled with people from USA to tell them some paranoid tales about agencies who are trying to locate him and kill him with a microwave cannon.

Doesn't it seem a bit surreal?:rolleyes: :weird:

Dreadnaught

04-29-2002, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by kathaksung
Hotfoot,

Thanks for information. I didn't know it was hidden in upper part. I only tested in usual way in 'edit', it didn't work. Anyway, I never have used this function. You seem to be familiar with technic and even could drew the whole page for illustration. Are you one of surveillance team which monitor the internet so you could see the content before I posted it.

:haha: :haha: You're a fool, Kat, a real fool! :haha: :haha:

Come to think of it, while I can't quite put my finger on it, there's something about that post that really makes Kat look like he's just trying to bait us...

Mehrunes

04-29-2002, 10:37 PM

W00t! More conspiracy goodness. Ever think of selling this to the guys who make the X-Files, kathaksung? You could make a bundle, and buy your way out of your troubles. ;)

Dreadnaught

04-29-2002, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by Mehrunes
W00t! More conspiracy goodness. Ever think of selling this to the guys who make the X-Files, kathaksung? You could make a bundle, and buy your way out of your troubles. ;)

Well, only four more episodes of X-Files left if I remember correctly, but there's plenty of other people who would want it...maybe. :)

AR81

04-30-2002, 01:27 AM

I told him to write such stories. He just needed some martians and he'll have an episode of X-Files.

Master[\/]][[\][)

04-30-2002, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by kathaksung
Are you one of surveillance team which monitor the internet so you could see the content before I posted it.
No no that's me. You see I'm in the future using my time portal to watch you as you type your little articles. If there's any actual harmful (or true) information then I'll make sure it won't go through. So far though that hasn't happened, but I like your articles :up:.

Hotfoot

04-30-2002, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by kathaksung
Hotfoot,

Thanks for information. I didn't know it was hidden in upper part. I only tested in usual way in 'edit', it didn't work. Anyway, I never have used this function. You seem to be familiar with technic and even could drew the whole page for illustration. Are you one of surveillance team which monitor the internet so you could see the content before I posted it.

Okay, that's it...

http://www.realmofconfusion.com/pleasedeargoddonotletthisfreakbreed.jpg

Dante [0]

04-30-2002, 04:13 AM

My goodness...:haha: I've been posting on this board all
this time & I didn't even notice this thread until now!
:haha: :haha:

I haven't even read through half the posts & I'm already
cracking up...:haha: :p
Hey, about the microwave stuff, it is linked to cancer... just in
case nobody mentioned it yet.:D

AR81

04-30-2002, 09:50 AM

It is a thread that gathered all the possible conspiracy theories that anyone could possibly imagine. Of course, most of them are not based on facts, just a guess.

I think it is required to be somehow paranoid to think that way. I would advise him to get a real life and find something that makes him feel happier.

May be he has seen too many spy movies and he became nuts like Don Quixote.

kathaksung

05-08-2002, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by Mehrunes
W00t! More conspiracy goodness. Ever think of selling this to the guys who make the X-Files, kathaksung? You could make a bundle, and buy your way out of your troubles. ;)

I've posted my opinion on your suggestion. see "#62. Public announcement".

kathaksung

05-08-2002, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by AR81
This thread is another proof that there is freedom of speech. Some guy comes here to a place filled with people from USA to tell them some paranoid tales about agencies who are trying to locate him and kill him with a microwave cannon.

Doesn't it seem a bit surreal?:rolleyes: :weird:

I partly agree with you. Yes, I still can post in some forum. But don't forget I also suffered a large scale harassment. And censorship which you can see at "#55, #56. Internet censorship".

kathaksung

05-08-2002, 05:26 PM

64. My Brother in law was targetted. 4/30/2002

About in 1992,(see message 6), that B's house (my youngest brother in law) was burglarized for three times within a week after I talked about isotope money. Because B is a successful business man, I think money was their target.

In early April, 2000, the house where my parents lived, were damaged in a fire. It is a house of three storeys in Taravel St of San Francisco. It was said the fire caused by a candle in top floor where a tenant lived. Though my parents lived underneath, most things were damaged not by the fire but the water pumped in by fire brigade and had to be abandoned. I think it was a search under the cover of fire or a revenge. Because it happened about two weeks after I seeking asylum in Thailand. (March 22, 2000) The house is B's property.

In April, 2001, both director of FBI and DEA announced resignation and would leave post on June. Then a news in internet drew my attention. It said US paid a large amount of ransom to China for the releasing of the crew of spy plane. FBI and DEA were signatories and guarantors agree not to use the term of Chinese Secret Police on dope traffic interdictions to Mexico, Colombia, Nigeria, and related locations and not mention Southwest China. It was a strange news, and was much more a framing drug deal than a spy plane deal. In which drugs would be smuggled from China to US and be captured, but the media would be under control so it won't hurt China's fame. I realized China was bribed to frame a drug case. It was a real good idea, the case would be believable since China was in dispute with US in spy plane accident, US law enforcement officer could do their business more relieved that they didn't plant drug, they only enforce law. B imports tens of containers of merchandise from China each year. It's easy to plant drugs in it.

The expiration date of my drive license was May 24, 2001. I received renewal notice in March. I hesitated to mail renewal form to Sacramento DMV office because many things strange happened then, such like attemption to get my signature in blank paper. Then in late April, a news said there was a malfunction in machine which issuing renewal drive license in Sacramento DMV office, sent a lot of renewal drive license to wrong addresses. I never mail the renewal form. I don't think I can get new drive license. They even made lost of drive license reasonable.

In early May, Justice department suddenly delayed McVeigh's execution date to June 11. June was the last month Freeh stayed in his post. I think they planed murder case then. And they needed a big event to transfer public's attention. I expressed my worry in internet in later may and early June. Talking about the resignation of FBI director Freeh and the delayed McVeigh's execution. On June 6, I suffered the second wave of internet censorship. At least seven web-sites I posting were attacked simultaneously.

Later I learnt from my sister she lost her tenants at same time. B runs his business in a warehouse. His neighbor was a book company. The book company not only rented the warehouse next to B, but also rented an office room inside B's warehouse, so it was B's tenant, too. There is an independent living unit in the back yard of B's living house which he rented to a single man. In may, both tenants moved away with different reason. It reminds me the event in about 1996, when G lady quit the job one month before 'operation Fire Dragon' took place. (see '32. Operation Fire Dragon') In my experience, they monitor as close as they can and avoid to be involved as possible as they can.

I do believe they planed a framing drug case in early 2001. For some reason, it soured. Because I didn' t mail the renewal form of drive license? Or I posted revelation in internet? Or some other reasons, I would never know.

Now the Chief of FBI Sacramento office will retire in May. Will there be another plot then? Probably in my sister's birthday party when so much people who know my story attending. Whatever happening, one thing is for sure that my messages in internet will be attacked too. On April 25, newspaper said, "US intelligence officials believe that the Chinese military is working to launch wide-scale cyber-attacks on American and Taiwanese computer networks....and are bracing for a possible wave of hacking attacks by Chinese students against US in coming weeks" The secret deal of last year is still effective and it's the best way to get rid of US intelligence's dislike: by the hands of foreign country so US officer take no responsibility.

Gatekeeper

05-08-2002, 05:54 PM

Hey the Lunatic is back! Cool!

AR81

05-08-2002, 06:51 PM

Hey the Lunatic is back! Cool!
I'll be back - Terminator :cool:
64. My Brother in law was targetted. 4/30/2002 It is called validation of the experiment. When you have a lab rat you need a reference individualto measure the variations. I have not read the post but if it is the same microwave cannon thingy, it is a field validation that the microwave cannon works. Blame the martians.

By the year of 2630 the martian insurgents got to conquer Luna. Thanks to Earth’s orbital defenses, they couldn’t invade Earth so they attempted some orbital strikes to lower the morale of Earthlings. The Coalition of Camberra was formed by all the nations on Earth which united in an effort to put that siege to an end. The Coalition of Camberra would be named as The Empire of Selene some thousand years in the future.

The siege ended because some mining facilities got to contact Earth and send a rocket towed asteroid that caused an impact on the martian’s Luna base prior to the invasion by the Coalition of Camberra. The martians have always been a problem for Earthlings.

Master[\/]][[\][)

05-09-2002, 05:48 AM

Unfortunately for us the Martians had already conquered Earth in my time line by that point. The Martian invasion of 2420 (403 years after the failed 2017 invasion) struck us down completely. We have been trapped under the yoke of martian rule for the past 5000 years, except for the remaining pieces of the TEMP agency. We managed to hide colonies on several planets and the Oort cloud.

We've been covertly fighting the martians but it's a battle we're losing. They have huge populations on six planets while we have minor colonies where we just can't afford to lose men. It's become a strange battle with future TEMP agents fighting the present TEMP agents to bring about the TIMEX future
:confused:.

AR81

05-09-2002, 09:50 AM

Agents fighting themselves? That must be a mess.

Master[\/]][[\][)

05-10-2002, 02:00 AM

We have to be careful not to destroy any of the families of the future TEMP agents or risk destroying the fabric of space-time so yeah it is kind of a mess.

AR81

05-10-2002, 02:48 AM

We have to be careful not to destroy any of the families of the future TEMP agents or risk destroying the fabric of space-time so yeah it is kind of a mess.
Not only the fabric. You must also consider looms and threads.:D :haha: :haha: :weird:

Master[\/]][[\][)

05-10-2002, 03:31 AM

Ahhh, but we use the loom and thread to repair space-time after we tear it.

Alaster

05-10-2002, 11:40 AM

I don't know if this has been posted before, but this guy has posted this all over the net.
just put this line into www.google.com

According to newspaper, the heroin container arrived in on May, 1991. Mrs. Chen was arrested on June 22, 1991 when they opened it.

Same name, he has a lot of time on his hands. I found one even as far back as 1997

Omegus

05-10-2002, 12:18 PM

Our microwave here is the first model ever produced for the home... :confused:

AR81

05-10-2002, 01:49 PM

Our microwave here is the first model ever produced for the home...
Kat is chinese. I think he should consider if there is any Japanese agency or company interested on getting rid of him. After all Chinese and Japanese people don’t like each other.

May be a Japanese company which manufactures microwave ovens…

I have another idea. What if Kat’s van is a prototype of microwave oven shaped as a car and it was sold to Kat due to a mistake and it was intended to kill Mr. Chen…

Imagine how much food you could cook in such a car microwave oven. Kat should bring his food with him so he can have a heated lunch during his trips. I see the wonders of new technologies. I wonder what they will invent later. May be a helicopter that can deliver spice to that food.

kathaksung

05-13-2002, 07:27 PM

65. Birthday Party on May 3 (5/10 first posted)

After the house in San Francisco was burned down, my parents moved to Shanghai, China, live with my uncle. Two months ago(Mar. 2002), the house in Shanghai was said in a development plan and would be dismantled. It motivated my sister to buy a house for them to live. Last month (April), my youngest sister (B's wife) bought a house in Shanghai, within two weeks, another sister bought one, too. I think the deal cost my sisters a lot of money.

On April 28, I learned B would have a big birthday party on May 3. It's Friday. It was unusual. My family union are used to be on Saturdays and Sundays. People won't have to be in a hurry in holiday. Friday is a day fit for plot in jail. Jail won't do any bail work on week ends. So there are two extra days for agents to do 'suicide' job there. I recalled the house deal two weeks ago. Was that a pre-set to transfer victim's would be bail money? ( I am sensitive on this because I had experience, I'll tell the story later) I called B, telling him about my worry. He said he didn't do anything illegal so what I said was impossible, he won't change his decision. He talked a lot of how grateful he was to US because his success in business. My feeling is that he didn't talk to me, he talked to agent who monitored the phone call. We are first generation immigrant. We always use our native language when we talk. This time he spoke in English. I could feel he was in terror. He thinks he is innocent, he may obey everything agent tell him to do. Yet I know a lot of people like him have been killed. What I could do was to post my worry in my thread "64. My brother in law was targeted" (first posted on April 30)

I learned the plot was postponed on May 3, the day of the party held. There was a letter from credit card company that day with a renewal card inside. My wife's Visa card expired on 04/02. So a Renewal card should have been arrived in March. But they held the card until May 3rd when they knew the plan soured.
Next day was week end, my wife would shopping with it, they couldn't hold it anymore. (See my experience of credit card at "34. The lost credit card")

I post in BBC's forum. Their format lifts the thread to top when you post a message to it. My thread failed in this function after I had about 20 messages posted. So each time I have to started a new thread for a new message. And each time I repeated:"I failed to lift "Secret police" up to top. Since the problem I posted here, such like messages missing, lagging show up of messages.... for readers who are interested in whole thread, go search "The dark side of USA" in 'goggle', or to 'guardian's 'talk', find 'Unbridle power of Federal agency' in category 'Europe and world' of 'Politics talk' "

BBC is a famous broadcast company. My commend repeated for months which might make them uneasy. So on May 1, they couldn't help to put a reply:
Quote, <"re: Secret police <http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?mid=%3C1020231436-1767.1%40forum0.kw.bbc.co.uk%3E&find=%3C1020231436-1767.1%40forum0.kw.bbc.co.uk%3E&board=greatdebate.thisisatest> Jessica W - HOST - 1 May 2002 06:37
Dear Kat Sung, I hope your cough is getting better. Thank you for alerting us to this story.
In another order of things, I hope the new message board lay-out that begins tomorrow Thursday will help us all follow threads more easily.
Thank you for your post and do keep them coming. ">

I just posted "59. Continuing cough" there. You can see the sarcasm of the Host. She might be told I would not come back after May 3. Same thing like what happened in Civilliberty.com. (see "55. Internet Censorship") Then on May 3, there was a post from another Host:

Quote, <"Messageboard relaunch problems <http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?mid=%3C1020444860-487.3%40forum0.kw.bbc.co.uk%3E&find=%3C1020444860-487.3%40forum0.kw.bbc.co.uk%3E&board=greatdebate.thisisatest> Alice Castle - HOST - 3 May 2002 17:54
Hi everyone - big apologies for the recent messageboard hiccups - we were meant to relaunch with a new, neater layout this week but technical problems have meant there's been a delay.
Also, you'll notice that paragraphing and character formatting are not working at the moment, and post counts are gone - again, sorry about this: things will be fixed and running as planned soon! ">

The relaunch problem will continue while I continue to post.

Dreadnaught

05-13-2002, 10:44 PM

Wow, it seems like they actuall accepted your crap. And you're complaining?:rolleyes: :down:

As for the credit card--- wow! The government is screwing you over again! But instead of not being able to kill you, you slippery fellow, they're going to ruin your birthday!!:eek: :rolleyes:

AR81

05-14-2002, 02:14 AM

Or it could be an enemy of the agencies who is stealing Kat's money to make Kat to blame the feds.:bulb:

kathaksung

05-22-2002, 07:53 PM

66. Turn innocent into criminal (5/20/2002)

On May 5, in World Journal's Week-ends Publish,(Chinese edition) there was an special report "Thousands eyes outside the door" which talked about Federal jail. There were six small topics in this article, four of them were story of inmates. The first one was a former Chinese Navy officer. After retirement he worked temporarily for shipping company to earn some extra money. Two years ago he was employed as chief engineer in a British ship. One day in Atlantic ocean, he found about one hundred strangers on board the ship. He asked Captain and Chief mate, they only staring at him..... then they were arrested by INS agent. He thought he was innocent because he knew nothing about conspiracy of smuggling illegal immigrant but was told if he pled guilty, he would get about 18 months jail sentence, if he trying for a jury sentence and failed, he could get 10 years. And most serious thing was that Captain and Chief mate were trying to wrong him in a plea bargain with prosecutors to be their witness. While he was hesitating, one thing changed his mind. A little smuggler was sentenced to 87 months for his disobedience in court. He thought he couldn't resist this power and gave up. He now could be released less than a year for good behavior in prison.

The second one was a landlord. He had planted some marijuana in his yard. He enjoyed it only for himself and never selling it. Once when he found neighborhood were suspicious, he destroyed the plant. So when DEA searched his house, they got nothing. Still he was arrested without any evidence. The writer asked, "In US, issuing a warrant must base on evidence.." The landlord said, "No, no evidence, only the mouth of neighborhood." He intended to go to court, but lawyer advised him better not. "Federal case is different from state's. Even they have no evidence, you can't win. You win one prosecution, they'll prosecute another.It's endless." He had to choose guilty for 3 years sentence. If he failed in court, it would be 15 years.
He said, "In jail, I saw so many cases which shakes my belief that US is a justice country." One of inmate serving 7 years because he doesn't like President Clinton and once said, "I'll get a gun to shoot Clinton." There was no action, only speech. There are 15 similar cases in whole US.

The third one was a gay. There was only one sentence about how he was put into jail. His lover put drugs at his home which was found by police after neighbor complained noise of a party. The rest whole article was about homosexual activities inside jail, miserable,aids......

The last one was a police colonel of Cambodian. He once took a tour to US. His close friend asked colonel to accompany some of his relatives with him. He promised. In custom, these relatives were arrested for forgery passport. For self protection, these illegal immigrants wronged him as smuggler. His friend cheated him.

There was also a picture in article with no story. Only said, "Reincron(pronunciation) is cleared from murder verdict after a DNA test He served 10 years in prison already." The picture shows a laughing man after release.

The whole article give people an impression that Federal jail is full of framed cases and a lot of people were wronged. Do they intend to reveal dark side of US justice? Of course not. World Journal is a popular Chinese newspaper published nation wide and read by my family members. The article might be neglected by people in normal times. But if there was a frame case took place in May 3's party, then the May 5's article would have been an advice or instruction on time to tell innocent people how to do to fit Federal agent's demand. The life in jail is miserable, to resist Federal power is hopeless, for best interest of people wronged into jail, is to cooperate with authority to be prosecutor's witness and plea guilty. That's how they turn innocent people into criminal. And they really considered everything from lawyer, bail..... to even witness. It's a big case. Once cost both directors' post of FBI and DEA, and postponed McVeigh's execution date for a month. Though the target is a little figure, he knew by his experience the high tech. weapon agent used and criminal activity of Federal law enforcement agency. And all attemption were the action of a criminal group do to a witness of their crime.

Hazir

05-22-2002, 08:49 PM

Well Kat, too bad we didn't have the same teacher for English, because that would have increased my understanding of your newest rant.

Oh, the story about the chinese former navy officer working on a British ship. You seriously want us to believe the Chinese navy allows its people to do that? That alone makes it very improbable, but there also is the fact that you can't work as an officer on a ship that is registered in a different country than your own.

Dreadnaught

05-22-2002, 10:15 PM

Kat's run out of ideas of crazy conspiracy theories, so now he's trying to pursue an anti-US agenda on ideological terms.

AR81

05-23-2002, 01:28 AM

Sincerely I prefer to finish my reading of a book about history of Japan that I am currently reading. I have no time for such long posts.

kathaksung

06-01-2002, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Hazir
Well Kat, too bad we didn't have the same teacher for English, because that would have increased my understanding of your newest rant.

Oh, the story about the chinese former navy officer working on a British ship. You seriously want us to believe the Chinese navy allows its people to do that? That alone makes it very improbable, but there also is the fact that you can't work as an officer on a ship that is registered in a different country than your own.

Ask World Journal, the article was on 5/5/2002.

kathaksung

06-01-2002, 11:52 PM

67. Turn on into local police (5/29)

In mid-May, I clicked on to SFgate.com, a web site of San Francisco Cronicle, only found it closed its forum.
"SF Gate Conferences Closed as of 5/15: Read about it <http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2002/04/15/motet.DTL> The SF Gate Conferences have been closed. Many of the regular users have moved their disussions to Cafe Utne, which uses the same Motet format."

I went to Cafe Utne, started a new thread "My American nightmare". Today I went there to continue, but couldn't find posting window. There was no 'lock' up, no 'close for post' note. I studied the follow up, then understood it's a 'nice notice' of hidden 'close for post': ' That is very sad and it is interesting, Kat. But, I do not want to run a topic on something as specific as your own experience....".

In the alleged plot of May 3, I found they using "US intelligence officials believe that the Chinese military is working to launch wide-scale cyber-attacks on American and Taiwanese computer networks...." instead of "forbid, ban" me from the web site. And there is no trouble found except this one. Actually, they shut down a SF web site, include its archive, and nicely discontinue my thread in a replacing site. Since readers should been mainly local people, they try to hide something (my story) from them?

In May 19, 20, 21, for continual three days, SF Cronicle published a long article criticize SFPD. Topics:" SFPD dead last in solving violent crime " ,"S.F. SLAYINGS GO UNSOLVED " ,"WHERE SOLVING CRIMES TAKES TOP PRIORITY ". It said, "The San Francisco Police Department solved, on average, just 28 percent of the city's murders, rapes, robberies, shootings, stabbings and other serious assaults between 1996 and 2000. Among the 20 largest U.S. cities, only police in crime-plagued Detroit and rapidly growing Phoenix solved murders at a lower rate than the SFPD between 1996 and 2000." It published a lot of data. The data was released from FBI. The long lasting article certainly put a large pressure on SFPD. And when a news of such released, there is always a purpose. What is FBI's intention this time?

T(see #44. My Tenant, #45. Tenant) said in mid-May he found another job and might move to Oakland or San Francisco. About four days ago he said he found a room in Oakland and would move in on June. It's a one week notice.

Something seems will happen next month. When one plot was revealed and soured, there always be another. This time they turn on into local police whom are driven to raise their bad record and eagerly to solve big case if they are tipped. All this is in a hurry, (because FBI is in a hurry to be reformed?) SFgate.com closed its forum without predict in mid-May, T gave a one week notice to remove. Other pressure, such like attemption to set up illegal money, make me in a hurry too, to write this message, before I can finish another message about May 3 plot.

68. Ashcroft's revenge (5/31/02)

On May 30, A.G. Ashcroft announced he authorizing FBI to monitor the internet, political groups, libraries and religiouns organizations. All these are under the label of anti-terrorism. But I think it's an attemption to find a legal base for agents to wrong people by "investigation without evidence".

As a matter of fact, communication such like internet are under surveillance for a long time already. We know there are Carnivore, Echelon. And my message in internet which reveal the dark side of Federal law enforcement agency is the sabotage target. I alleged there was a big plot of murder and
elimination of my message in internet on June, 2001. After that plot was soured, on July, Ashcroft came to Bay area where I live announced a national cyber monitor programme. News paper title:"ASHCROFT UNVEILS PLAN TO BATTLE CYBERCRIME NINE NEW COMPUTER CRIME UNITS LOCATED AROUND THE COUNTRY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROSECUTING FEDERAL VIOLATIONS RANGING FROM HACKING TO STEALING TRADE SECRETS." The nine teams, with computer expert, are spread in US. I alleged they are doing hacking and harassment they themselves. I suffered a lot of harassment. I was banned from about more than 70 web-sites. For those active sites, readers disappeared. I think they were intimidated individually. It's a big job.

After I expressed my view of "anthrax attack", the frame attemption intensifies. Now Ashcroft even authorizes FBI agent more power which they can abuse. Perhaps for another view which I expressed on May 22. Here is an intimidation, an swift response to my thread "FBI knew terror attack in advance":

Quote, "arjurg
Senior Member
posted May 22, 2002 05:57 PM <http://www.newsmax.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio&UserName=arjurg>
The FBI receives literally hundreds of 'tips' every day. I would suggest that you consider the fact that this administration is operating as if this were wartime, which it essentially is. In these times even the paranoid and conspiratorialist 'warnings' must be handled judiciously.

There is nothing untoward in John Ashcroft's using a private airplane to go on his fishing trip."

Re: "FBI knew terror attack in advance"

A news in July 2001 may reveal that FBI knew the coming hijacking.

Quote, "WASHINGTON, July 26, 2001
Attorney General Ashcroft, with President Bush (AP) "There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines." FBI spokesman (CBS) Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart."

"Earlier this week, the Justice Department leased a NASA-owned G-3 Gulfstream for a 6-day trip to Western states. Such aircraft cost the government more than $1,600 an hour to fly. When asked whether Ashcroft was paying for any portion of the trips devoted to personal business, a Justice Department spokeswoman declined to respond. "

"In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term. "

Be noticed the news was on July, 2001, two months before 911. And Janet Reno, Ashcroft's predecessor as attorney general, routinely flew commercial. She didn't enjoy the special benefit of security. Can you explain why?

When FBI is accused of failure to warn the nation of 911 attack, this news revealed they did do something to deal with coming threaten already. Though only to their boss.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml

Master[\/]][[\][)

06-01-2002, 11:57 PM

He's back! :D.

And this thread isn't closed yet, looks like the FBI are getting sloppy :confused:.

Edgewise

06-02-2002, 12:32 PM

Kat, I have a conspiracy theory for you...

A) You work for the Chinese propaganda minestry.

B) You are serving time in a prison somewhere, and this is how you make the time pass.

C) You are very bored, and for some reason find this amusing.

D) You are totally nutz.

Dog_Rice

06-03-2002, 03:07 AM

Let's not be too hasty to classify the nationality of people with odd thinking! We may have some weirdos too, but microwaves are found throughout the world. I recommend we pool our funds to get this guy a psych evaluation, and then quickly into rehab.

kathaksung

06-12-2002, 07:41 PM

Question and answer

"Maybe the threat was personal, not terror related."

Someone said this might be a personal threaten. But we know a personal threaten to celebrity is used to be assassination, such like President Kennedy's, Martin Luther King's. And a private plane is more vulnerable for a personal threaten, such like Jr. Kennedy, (died in 1999) whose political potential is a nightmare to those who assassinated his father and uncle. Carnaham, former governor of Missori, in campaign for Senator against Mr. Ashcroft,(in 2000) and a Disneyland executive, in campaign for CEO of Disney,(in 1993) were all died in accidents of private plane. Commercial flight's hijacking? In world, we know mostly done by Mid east terrorist. In US domestic flights? So far I know there was none until 911. So it goes back to the topic, how did FBI knew there would be an 'personal threaten' on commercial flights which hadn't happened before?

Re2. CBS might be punished for the news (6/10/02)

CBS published the news revealing Ashcroft travelling by charted flight in private tour. It was two months before 911 attack. FBI said it was for 'threaten assessment'. CBS might been punished for that news because it accidently revealed FBI knew hijacking would happen.

On December 2001, I had my opinion in message "My view of anthrax attack". Which talked about the first victim Bob Stevens is likely a revenge target of US celebrities more than a target of terrorist. Now it looks like CBS is the same. Though originally CBS was only pointing at corruption, FBI knew what it could really mean as it now does. CBS was a victim of anthrax attack. CBS Anchor Dan Rather's assistant tested positive of skin form of anthrax. Small trace was found in Rather's office.

See message #39 . The first victim, Bob Stevens, died on Oct. 5. He was an photo editor of Sun, a tabloid focus on scandals of celebrities such like Princess Diana's affair, Clinton and Lewinsky affair or President's drunken daughters. It seems he was much more a revenge target of some powerful celebrities then OBL and his Al -Qaida. Do you think terrorist know Bob and choose him the first target?

Re. 3. Atta was under surveillance earlier

Public know little of other 18 terrorists but Atta. He was the most familier one for people among 19 terrorists.Such like his background; his student life in Hamburg, German; "his allergy hands"; "his visiting crop dust plane"; "his visit to Czech"; and his passport was even found two blocks away from WTC after 911 attack....Newspaper called him terrorist leader as if they had taken part in the meeting. But how could they know he was the leader, not the others?

Intelligence always benefited from terrorist attack.(more police power and increased budget) In anthrax attack, they released an information that 911 terrorist leader Atta had made contact to Iraq diplomat. They discussed a plot of bombing US broadcast station. I think the release of information was on purpose that Iraq had connection to terrorist so there was excuse to extend war to Iraq. But this also meant terrorist leader Atta's talking was eavesdropped. And he was under surveillance of intelligence at least as early as this spring. Do you believe that intelligence knew nothing of 911 bombing in advance?

Re. 4. A war without evidence given

Mystery informant and evidence

If you still remember when Bush started war in Afghan, they didn't show people the evidence that OBL was behind 911. They said they had evidence, but couldn't make it public for the sake of safety of informant. Now, after eight months, where was that informant and evidence? Was he still with OBL? If so, why couldn't we capture OBL? There is another explanation, they did have evidence that OBL would attack. So there was such "threat assessment" for charted plane. And they need it like 'Perl Harbour' in WW2. They couldn't show it to people otherwise it also revealing they knew attack in advance. Perhaps that's why they want a military court. Perhaps that's why there is little news activity from Afghan. Most we got are from Army's saying. They want to bury the truth forever.

Re. 5. Culture of FBI

A lot of sources said there were more accomplices involved in OKC bombing. And after Waco event, FBI had penetrated militia organizations. Quote, "Some time prior to the bombing, the DEA planned a raid on Elohim City, from which McVeigh is alleged to have worked out his plans. but the FBI warned the DEA not to make their raid, because the FBI had “an informant in place” (http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/aug/06/arwh080601.htm)

The motive of OKC bombing by McVeigh is to revenge government's injustice in Waco. His target was FBI and BATF in Murrah Federal Building. Yet on that day, all staffs of FBI and BATF were absent. They knew the bombing in advance. Other federal employees became scapegoat.

The content of "Patriot Act" which G.A. Ashcroft proposed after 911 attack had been proposed by FBI director Freeh after OKC bombing. Freeh failed to pass his proposal but Ashcroft succeeded. Perhaps with the help of anthrax attack. From two similar terrorist events, we can see the culture of FBI. They value their lives very much, they absented in office on OKC bombing day, they gave a 'threat assessment' for their boss before 911 attack. (fact) They tried to get more police power from the panic of terror attack (motive) and neglected public lives' loss. As a matter of fact, only the huge loss made people give away their civil right to FBI.

Re. 6. Who need this terror attack and war?

When I first published "FBI knew terror attack in advance", I got an intimidation from someone said that now it's in war times, "even the paranoid and conspiratorialist 'warnings' must be handled judiciously." That's the point. They need "war times" so they can do whatever they want to do to their dislikes. And who are benefit from this attack? President got high approve rate, intelligence got extended police power, Pentagon got a fat budget. Who are the loser? Civil liberty eroded, budget turned into deficit from surplus. And they even try to tap the social security fund which will face a financial crisis 20 years later. Yet they make this war endless. OBL is still at large. Iraq is on the waiting list. Perhaps Iran.... . Who benefit from it?

Master[\/]][[\][)

06-12-2002, 08:02 PM

To all the newcomers meet Kathaksung, our resident conspiracy theorist and All Round Neat Crazy Person :up: :D.

kathaksung

06-22-2002, 08:49 PM

Re 7. Padilla and OKC bombing (6/15)

On June 10, Ashcroft announced arrest of Padilla for dirty bomb plot. Then there was an interesting discovery on Padilla in internet. People found he is identical to John Doe, alleged accomplice of McVeigh in OKC bombing. . A coincidence?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/697881/posts

I then put a reply to that discovery

From another angle:

In my opinion, FBI had their informant everywhere. They penetrated militia organization and Arabs too. I think they knew OKC bombing and 911 attack in advance but didn't say it. Because they could benefit from it.

It's no surprise if Padilla could be an informant recruited when he was in jail. (in 91) To work for an Pakistanian food owner two years was the first step to penetrate into Arab world.(in 92, 93) Just think he was with Zubaydah then Zubaydah was arrested in Pakistan. Think government announced much earlier that Al-Quada would use dirty bomb. Also think why government insisted McVeigh acting alone in OKC bombing while a lot of source said there were more accomplice and informant.

Padilla's arrest is unusual. There is no evidence, said only resemble to what Zubaydah's description whom was not considered as cooperating witness. But it made Ashcroft to announce his arrest in Moscow. And also made Bush sign a directive naming him as enemy combatant and put him into military custody until "war against terror" is over.

I posted a message like this in TB2000.com on 6/13, next day I was banned from that forum.

Re. 8. FBI knew Heaven's Gate suicide in advance

FBI have their informants everywhere especially in social, political, religious groups and organization. Some resulted tragedy like Waco, Jude Bary's environment group, Ruby Ridge, OKC bombing. But there were much more unknown to the public.

I've talked about relative R whom had urged me to install false teeth. (see #58.Manipulating media and killing by radiation) I didn't follow her advice. Later for several times she laughed at me publicly that, "It's ugly to see the openness of missing teeth when you're laughing." She is the only person taking so much attention on my missing teeth. I took it as tactic to push me for a false teeth and neglect it.

In a family union, once we talked about the disease some acquaintance had had which resulted in ambulance service. R suddenly said "Maybe because aliens will come?" She repeated this which caused my notice. R interested in TV series(Chinese one) and is familiar with movie star's news. But Aliens, UFO, is never a topic even among us. We thought it's absurd. I thought then, perhaps the agents tried to attribute the disease to Aliens, a new tactic? Soon, in March 1997, a mass suicide of Heaven's Gate happened. 39 people suicided at the thought of "Aliens in space craft are coming to pick them up". I was immediately aware of the meaning of R's 'Alien' theory. Then in a reunion, when we talked about the absurd suicide of Heaven's Gate member, R flaunted, "Look, I had said it was alien, hadn't I?" That's the only two times I heard of her talking about Aliens.

Accustomed to unbridle power, agents used to flaunt their ability. When I complained they committing murder, they even sent a message "So what, they even killed President Kennedy". To show off their ability to control everything, they sometimes forecast to informant that they knew everything. Like what happened in BBC. (see #65. Birthday Party on May 3) But it's not a surprise that they ignore lives of innocent people. (compare with OKC's victims) Perhaps they could benefit from the deaths, from personal treasure to credit cards, or could set their resource for another group's surveillance?

Re. 9. Ashcroft in Moscow

Secret police have their own deals. It's convenient to commit crime by the hands of foreign hands. I have experience of this. Then what does Ashcroft want secret police of Russia do?

India suddenly changed its attitude to Pakistan. The war threaten demolished. War or peace, only depends on leaders' desire. US government must have activate large resource to mediate.

I speculate there will be a big operation in Pakistan. Or probably there will be a big terror attack in US which government had said,"Bombing is inevitable." This administration, especially intelligence, are under criticize for failure of 911 warning. And failure to find the anthrax attacker. They need a scapegoat for that anthrax attack. They need a big event to diverge the pressure. Or to grip more police power. What can OBL and Al-quada do? From embassy's bombing, 'Cool' vessel's bombing, 911, to recent bombing of Consulate in Pakistan, they were all simple: by powder or hi-jacked airplane. In a land which is so poor that they even unable to produce glass cup, I don't think they have any high-tech, bio-tech weapons. Even when they lost war in Afghanistan, I didn't see they had shoot a missile which said given by CIA before. So if there is such an attack, the weaponry, possibly bio-tech attack, or a dirty bomb, the radioactive material may come from Russia. I speculate.

69. Juror summon (6/16)

On May 13, I received a Juror summon. I returned the notice with a letter as following:

"May 22, 2002

Dear lady/sir

I think I am disqualify for a juror. I circle the first box for limited ability of listen and speak English. English is my second language. I had been rejected for a juror by court staff for poor English. I can understand about 70% of a TV movie. And often with help of dictionary to read and write. The following is the commend from internet chat.

valois Member Member # 21360

posted May 02, 2002 09:15 AM <http://www.funtrivia.com/forums_real/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile;u=00021360>
.......
His 'broken' English is inconsistant. I studied foreign languages and syntax for a lot of years; this guy's about as foreign as Jersey City or Fresno.

mystic - 01:55am Apr 11, 2002 EST (#57 <../cgi-bin/webx?14@21.O4ahbSEbMkb^5@.eede6a3/56> of 88)
......
Message boards are very forgiving places for spelling and grammar, but we would appreciate it if you could at least get some basic sense of English syntax.

Domer </PoliticallyIncorrectCafe/profile?Sent: 5/3/2002 5:11 PM

Kathaksung: If you express more clearly and precisely what your thesis is, I might be inclined to join this discussion. (Incidentally, is English your first language?)

Sincerely

Kat Hak Sung "

It could be a regular summon. For me, it also could be a trap they set. After May 3 plot soured, I could feel new pressure. Seven years ago, I sold my car. Last May, I didn't renew my drive license. (see #64) Since then, I even can't drive. I rarely go out. Do they want me leave for a while so they make a secret search? Or planting something, or install something? Or produce an accident on road? I don't know. I return the notice on May 23. the duty time should be on June 17-21. Then on June 11, there was an article in the newpaper (Chinese). Topic "Chinese ethnic lawyer call citizen to fulfil their duty" Sub topic:"Can you refuse to be juror if you don't understand English?". It said now it's very strict on juror's rule. Even your English is no good, you still must go to the court, let judge and lawyer make the decision. It's their way to communicate, or influence the people. Their intention is clear, they want me leaving home for court. My return letter was certified, but they still could make it lost. Here I put down the certified mail receipt No. 7002 0460 0002 3588 0731. The last Juror sumon also came on purpose, which I'll talk about later.

Dreadnaught

06-23-2002, 12:13 AM

Oh Kat, not this again-- don't start saying (again) that the final trap is being set and then disapear to see what happens. It won't work.

Also, it's funny how you base a lot of your arguments around the FBI being critisized for 9/11 and the anthrax attacks, saying they need a scapegoat (bin Laden) while you also blame them for perpetrating/allowing them.

Master[\/]][[\][)

06-23-2002, 12:39 AM

He may be a crackpot. But he's our crackpot :).

Moonsinger

06-23-2002, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by kathaksung
"Can you refuse to be juror if you don't understand English?". It said now it's very strict on juror's rule. Even your English is no good, you still must go to the court, let judge and lawyer make the decision. It's their way to communicate, or influence the people. Their intention is clear, they want me leaving home for court. My return letter was certified, but they still could make it lost. Here I put down the certified mail receipt No. 7002 0460 0002 3588 0731. The last Juror sumon also came on purpose, which I'll talk about later.
Yeah, after all these years, the FBI couldn't get you so now they use the Juror trick to get you. They couldn't track you, but they know exactly how to call you for Juror duty. You should get a CAT scan on your brain...all of those microwave radiation must have given you a brain tumor or something.

Hazir

06-23-2002, 02:38 PM

Is there anybody who could summarize why the FBI would be after Kat ? Besides being after him that is.

AR81

06-23-2002, 02:47 PM

In my opinion, FBI had their informant everywhere. I just have heard that the only one that is everywhere use to be called "God". According to your theory does FBI has any kind of agreement with God?
Oh Kat, not this again Well, he is back again. I had some theories about the reasons he hadn't come back:

1.He finally died due to microwave cannon exposure.
2.He became cured like Don Quixote in his final moments.
3.He got a life.
4.He was abducted by Martians for interrogation about the existence of the TIMEX, TEMP and STAR timeline agencies.
5.His computer was sabotaged by his enemies.
6.He was finally found by Chen and murdered for revealing all the details about "the real thing".
I rarely go out. Do they want me leave for a while so they make a secret search? Oh, so you work for the same chinese secret agency that sent Jet Li to fight using the technique of the "Kiss of the dragon"?
What kind of quality did you expect for free?
At least he has the merit of attracting the attention of timeline agencies so they reveal their presence and their position towards the martian invasion.
Yeah, after all these years, the FBI couldn't get you so now they use the Juror trick to get you. Didn't you know that Kat is better than David Copperfield? As soon as the FBI finds him he perform one of his magical acts.:weird: But he's our crackpot In my country there is an expression: "Nunca falta un borracho en una vela" (Every funeral never lacks a drunk guy). It means there is always a crackpot everywhere. I would be the first crackpot due to my posts if it wasn't for Kat. I would be the freakest poster in this thread. D@mn, I am second place now!You should get a CAT scan on your brain Some reasons for Kat not to do so:

1.He mispelled "CAT" for "KAT" when looking for a CAT.
2.He thinks that he will be scanned using a microwave cannon.:p

Moonsinger

06-23-2002, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by AR81
Some reasons for Kat not to do so:

1.He mispelled "CAT" for "KAT" when looking for a CAT.
2.He thinks that he will be scanned using a microwave cannon.:p
I think you are right. It could be another version of the microwave cannon, since many people who go through the CAT scan often find out that they have brain tumor.

Dreadnaught

06-23-2002, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by Loki
We're getting these wacky theories for free while the French are buying books to read them. What kind of quality did you expect for free?:)

You saw that article too? :)

I remember when we all talked about that a few weeks ago.:p

AR81

06-24-2002, 12:41 AM

*wonders if Kat is French* C'est la vie... that's everything I know about French.:p

kathaksung

07-03-2002, 10:00 PM

70. Manipulating my wife (6/25)

In February 2001, when I went back to Thailand from Cambodian, I had two purposes, to get remittance and file tax return. I needed a low telephone rate and convenient communication system.

My wife at first promised to mail that to me as soon as possible. But several days later, remittance became impossible (see 37. Manipulate Bank operation) and my wife also refused to mail me the tax documents. She said she would do it herself. It was unusual. In 1995 even when I was in China, she mailed documents to Shanghai so I could finish the return. What startled me was she even said she would hide rent income from file because it was paid by cash. My wife clearly knew I was under persecution of Federal agency. How could she do something illegal to give them an excuse? I argued with her but failed. Then she told me in phone that there was a court summon for me. At last I got it that was a Juror summon. Blocking remittance; intimidation by court juror summon; threaten to hide cash income; all these were efforts to force me back to US to their own control. After about half month waiting in vain, I was angry. I went to US consulate, complaining FBI abusing power. The staff there instructed me to write a letter to Legal Attache.

It took me whole day to write the letter. I went to General Post Office to certify the letter next day. Since the Post Office was next to Telephone office, I made a phone call to my wife first. To my surprise, she changed her attitude and promised to express the tax documents to me. Finished the call, the first thought came to me was my complain worked. While I was waiting for the mail, I went to bank again, wishing it work, too. The supervisor of foreign remittance division received me. She assured me that her department received a lot of remittance from US. No account needed. The problem must be from US. I was disappointed. Just then another manager came to me said she could help me to get the remittance by open a local resident's account. The only problem was it had to change US currency into Thai's and when I need US dollars, I had to change Thai currency into US dollars again. Which meant I had to suffer a double exchange rate loss. It was a compromise. But I rejected it. I didn't mind to lose some money on it but I did mind I lose the right of normal way of remittance. While others could do it why couldn't I?

I re-wrote the letter, cancel the first part which complain about manipulating my wife but kept to request an investigation about FBI abusing power on bank operation. The letter late caused the attemption of a frame drug case and finally made me seek asylum.

71. Police violence

The first time I got Juror summon was ten years ago. I went to court. The staff lady there rejected me when she found my conversation was poor. Next time I had experience FBI using it as a tool of intimidation. This time, after read newspaper article on 6/11, it turned out to be another plot. That's why I hastily post message "69. Juror summon" on 6/16. Because 6/17 was the day for Juror service. I can't drive so only way to go out is by bus. I worry they might do something on bus. That's why I talked about my situation of no car and no drive license in that message.

What happened on next day (6/17), was my daughter was called to go for a swimming. I couldn't stop her. But I advised her not to go to deep water area. My worry about relative's safety is not over sensitive. Which I'll talk about later.

At night, I heard a news report from KTSF26 Chinese station that Supreme court ruled police can subtly pressure passengers on buses, trains and other public transit systems to agree to be searched, saying officers need not tell the riders they have a right to refuse. I immediately felt it's a cover up for a police violence in plan. If I followed advice of 6/11to go to the court on 6/17, there could be a police violence taking place in bus. Of course there would be professional witness favorable to police if it's a designed one. Seven years ago, when I started to go out by bus, I found they even prepared a bus special for me. When I waiting in bus stop, a special bus came to pick me up.( I call it charted bus) Then it ran slowly until the regular bus caught and passed. The regular bus picked up all passengers in advance. So my charted bus was used to be an empty one all the way I rode. The tactic was to separate me from any contact as possible as they could. Just like they bought all hot merchandise when I had business. (see 21. Alleged murder of Mrs. Churchill) I live in rural San Jose, where bus passengers were scarce. Bus interval was used to be 40 minutes which made overlap almost impossible so I could observe this method.

Next day (6/18), the newspaper reported a group of Supreme court rules. Police search in bus was one among them. Which meant these were already done cases. They just announced the rules altogether on that day. Federal law enforcement agency, with access to Supreme Court, knew everything (probably they even request the particular date for announcing) If there has been an police violence in bus on 6/17, the announcement on same day proved innocent people that it's common routine that police search in bus. The tactic is just same of Stanford murder which try to gave a background of random racial murder. (see " 63. A well planed frame case") To prove accident was not a particularly planed one. Though with my year's long experience of bus, I never encounter a police search.

AR81

07-04-2002, 12:29 AM

Manipulating my wife That's not fair. Crackpots getting married... I thought being a freak was a major issue that caused me to be a single...:(

kathaksung

07-13-2002, 05:22 PM

72. My daughter (7/5)

On 5/8, I received a letter from school, said my daughter was caught cheating. (she is 8th grade in middle school)

I asked my daughter. It was about a reading program. They were assigned by teacher to read 19 books for the semester. There was a test for each book, then get a grade on average mark of test. It was the 19th book when she followed other students to copy answer each other. She said crying that she didn't understand why it's so serious because a lot of students did so. (Teacher told me he caught 50 students cheating in that book test) I told her it was a good lesson. Not everything is correct even many others did so. It's lucky only a test of reading. I remind her never imitate others if it's smoking, drinking especially drugs. I remember President's drinking daughters, and a former vice president candidate, (former President candidate Mondale's partner, Feraror her name?) whom was defamed by her son's drug event. Those agents will do anything if they want to extort, even to target's children.

Though I advised my daughter nicely to take it as a lesson, I told my wife I worried it's an attemption of defame. The event was on 4/25, 9 days before May 3. School only let us know after that. And it was strict, in addition to re-grade the reading score, my daughter had to write a confession letter, plus 2 hours detention. If there was a frame drug case on 5/3, the confession letter could used to discredit my daughter as a witness.

There was still a possibility of coincidence. But next day's letter prove it's a conspiracy. The second letter said, "Based on a review of behavior, attendance, and academic records, your child is currently on restriction from all extra-curricular activities. He or she may also be at risk of being restricted from all M** Middle School eighth grade activities, including the graduation ceremony, if the issues below are not addressed in a timely manner. " It was a notice for an overdue book. My daughter said the book was lost. She tried to save her mother's money (The book costs about 10 dollars), she dragged for days with hope that she could still find it. She said the second letter was stupid. I thought it was a cover up to the first letter. A swift response to prove the school is strict when I told my wife it's unusual. As a matter of fact, not very long ago, my daughter's flute was stolen. The school never contacted us. I don't know how this case was solved. And how school handled thief. But I think it's something more severe than an overdue book. But they handled in different attitude.

My daughter was prized as an honorable student in graduation ceremony in medium May.

73. Disappearance

In late May, my daughter complained that her classmates all got the schedules from middle high school but she got none. We waited several more days then requested the I** High school. They said they had no my daughter's information in their computer. On 6/3, I called principal of M** Middle School. He insisted they had transferred my daughter's information to the school district. The I** High School, insisted they hadn't received it. At last, they informed us to re-register next day, bringing document such like PGE bill to prove we were residents of school district.

The data was transmitted electronically in group. It's hard to imagine information being missed like a piece of paper. My case is a framed one. Death will be occurred. The less people know the better. That's why they even delayed McVeigh's death to diverge public's attention. If they want less people know somebody disappeared, the usual way they do is move this body to somewhere else. People in old place only know he left for somewhere, then losing contact. And the person designated disappearing will never go to the new place. And the best way is that new place don't know there will be such a person to come so they won't ask why the person hasn't show up yet. It seems my daughter was designated disappear this time. That's why I told my daughter take care when she was called to swim on 6/17. When at night I heard the news of supreme court rule of police search in bus, I knew if I went to court in morning, there could be an police violence in bus and also an swimming pool accident as well.

While on 6/3, I** High School impatiently told us to bring document to register next day, the result on 6/4 was out of our expect. My wife was greeted by staff there:"You must be ** Sung's mother?. Everything is done." All courses my daughter selected were satisfied. Someone who could make my daughter's information missing also made the registration a perfect one when they knew we discovered it.

74. In a hurry (7/10)

The first attemption to frame a drug case, started from Nov.2000 of publishing 'Killing Pablo' to Freeh's resignation on June.2001, took 8 months. Next month in July, they established 9 computer crime units to monitor the internet. Be noticed that it's the same time of CBS reporting that Ashcroft took charted flight for private trip. I alleged the time when they acknowledged the coming terrorist hi-jack. But they still used the resource on internet. My revelation is much more important, or serious to FBI than the terrorist attack. It's obvious.

After I posted my analysis on anthrax attack in late 2001, attemptions of murder emerged again, most evident one was on Jan. 2002. Then from Feb, when they announced the chief of FBI Sacramento office would retire in May, to May 3 of birthday party, it's another plot which planed for three months.

Ten days later, I received the letter of Juror summon, to the service date of 6/17, It was only one month long. And several days later, I received another letter. It's from a funding group. The letter is an "Official notification to the parents of : **** Sung." (My daughter's name) It said that my daughter may be eligible to apply for financial assistance which will secure 100% of the funding needed for college education through Federal, State and Private Grants, Loans, Awards and Scholarships. My daughter's personal interview was scheduled for: July 13 or July 14. To secure funding, she will need to bring BOTH PARENTS. The last sentence is: "DEADLINE NOTICE: Your family is facing many important decisions that will directly affect ***'s future, so please attend on the day and time you reserve in order to meet important deadlines." The letter contains too much psychology influence but can't cover up it's real purpose. It's no other than same thing of Juror Summon: Make me go out for a trap of police violence. Despite of it's still far away to apply for a loan or scholarship of college, (She just finished 8th grade) none of her cousin(6 of them, all older than her, most in university already) had the luck to be selected for such a service before.

They are in a hurry to fulfil the murder project in July.

75. Time and method

In 6/21, San Jose Mercury carried an article, "911 probers want investigation of leaks". It said the leaders of the joint inquiry into the 911 attacks asked Justice Department to investigate the possible leak of classified information of NSA. They also said they were delaying the start of public hearings for at least two weeks which was originally planed in late June. I think the leaks might be done by FBI itself. Just like they said they had found 3 thousand pages of document to delay McVeigh's execution. They delayed the public hearing for same purpose. They need a big event to diverge public's attention to cover up their planed murder project. So it's better for them to do it before public hearing of failure intelligence of 911 attack. That's why they are in a hurry. Even issuing a scholarship letter which doesn't fit the situation.

The first plot was designed a state case. The may 3rd case was designed as a Federal one. Both planed murder in Jail. Then they turned on to local police, (see "67. Turn on into local police") In 6/21, news said San Francisco police Chief Fred. Lau would retired in middle July for a Federal job in Oakland Airport. Could that be a factor they try to do the murder job in July? As retirement is used to be used for responsibility taking in their culture.

A news on 6/14 is an unusual one:"S.J. COP CHARGED IN CRASH THAT KILLED MILPITAS WOMAN OFFICER BRUCE YOUNG FACES A VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER CHARGE IN THE 2001 COLLISION. NEW EVIDENCE SHOWS HE WAS DRIVING AT LEAST 86 MPH IN A 65-MPH ZONE WHEN HE HIT YI TZU CHEN'S CAR ON I-680. Seven months ago, Alameda County prosecutors said there wasn't enough evidence to charge a San Jose policeman. But now, Officer Bruce Young faces a charge of misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter in connection with the June 19, 2001 accident. Cops used to quit in many killing cases. Rarely to be prosecuted more seriously later like this. It resembles " Feds widen Nuestra Familia probe" and "SF dog mauling case". Both were alleged to add up "murder" prosecution so they could reach a deal . This can be the same. Officer Bruce Young is Chinese ethnic, good for being a handler to kill a Chinese ethnic citizen. He is in police dog team. He won't take too much responsibility if the killing is done by police dog. It's a good project for them.

Hazir

07-13-2002, 06:05 PM

So now the FBI is also responsable for your daughter getting out of hand? Maybe you should spend some more time teaching her about what's right and what's wrong and a bit less on spreading these ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Edgewise

07-13-2002, 09:34 PM

Kath, I thought you figured it out already. We are all FBI agents, and we are all experimenting on you. Your entire life has just been a script we've writen, and everyone you've ever come in contact with outside your immediate family has been on our payroll. We've had you under survailence ever since you were born, and we will continue to do so up until the day you die. Even your posts and the counter posts here on this forum are a part of the script. So far, we beleive our programming regimine has been successful, and now your brain pattern is going to be used for an experimental AI soldier which will be mass produced. You should feal honored that it was you we chose.

AR81

07-14-2002, 01:22 PM

Kat, your real name is Truman and you are part of Truman show. I bet I'll be banned from this show for telling this...

Master[\/]][[\][)

07-14-2002, 10:55 PM

I think this is getting old...

AR81

07-15-2002, 01:53 AM

Not old, just a classic...:p

kathaksung

07-23-2002, 06:59 PM

76. Installing something in car (7/21)

Since I found they try to murder me by microwave radiation in car, I abandoned driving at last. The car my wife drove had a lot of trouble in late 1998. To avoid problem, we bought a new one in early 1999. But new car can't avoid trouble, during the guaranteed period, twice it had to be sent to dealer to solve the problem. In May and June this year, almost every week there were dealer's notice for summer service. We didn't answer. On 6/18, they even sent a letter, " IMPORTANT! SAFETY RECALL NOTICE", said they want to call back the car of our model to inspect and replace safety belt. I thought they were in a hurry to install something in the car. We didn't answer that call too. Seven days later, on 6/25, my wife called me said the car broke down. For the third time, she had to sent the car for Auto-repair. Several days later she said she had a chest pain. I told her what I expected they would kill by heart attack. My wife said she was tired of this, didn't care any more. She was afraid of them.

I rarely went out, only sometimes shopping for food if there was a sale. On July 3, there was a big sale in Super Market. Considering they were plotting police violence when I going outside, I didn't go for that sale. My wife said it's a tense day that night. A customer ordered two urgent tickets for next day flights. Now is summer time, flights used to be full. My wife said she was lucky to find just two tickets for her clients. Then she faced the problem of delivery. She must send the tickets to two different location (one in Los Angles, one in San Francisco)before 7 pm because next day is July 4. People wouldn't work on holiday. She said she was lucky to find a company which promised delivery in time. From picking up tickets in Airline office to customer's firm, she tracked delivery each hour until 7 o'clock until customer noticed of receiving. She said her colleague C describing that it was so tense that my wife's heart one moment swollen so big, next moment shrunk so small. C was the same kind of person like G lady. Her describing created a reasonable situation of heart attack. In that day, for the second time this year, my daughter was called by her friends to go for a swimming. (the first time was 6/17) I think if I went out for a shopping that day, there would be a police violence waiting for me. And the customer who ordered the air tickets would then report of no receiving which would have become a reasonable cause of an heart attack for my wife later. I think they planed three killings that day.

77. The payment of deal

On 6/15, in Re 9, I said there would be a secret deal between Russia and US government. Several days later my expection came to true. It was practised in G-8 in later June (6/27/2002) in Canada. In the meeting, Russia was promised 20 billion within 10 years, namely for demolishing mass killing weapons. Russia is also granted to be host of G-8 in 2006 which means Russia becoming a former member of G-8. Russia president Putin was very much pleased with the announcement.

But what exchange will Russia give? Influence of India not starting a war against Pakistan? It seems there is some other secret deal there. It must be benefit to FBI because Ashcroft was involved. Help them from the shadow of anthrax problem? Most likely it would be related to dirty bomb because Ashcroft announced Padilla's arrest in Moscow. It was unusual, to deliver a message he had reached the deal? If so, US people still will suffer another attack-a dirty bomb attack. When they want to demand more from people. Either for election, or for the support of war on Iraq, or against criticism of failure intelligence.....it's their choice.

I expected this deal. It resembles secret deal of spy plane in April 2001. In which China was granted 40 billion dollars. At first I had doubted how could they pay this amount. Later I got it was an equivalent benefit. Later that year, China was granted to be host of Olympic in 2008 and became a former member of WTO. The analysis said it would benefit Chinese economy of billions of dollars worth. To exchange, Chinese secret police would frame a drug case for the benefit of DEA and FBI.
(See "61.Resignation of FBI chief" and "64. My Brother in law was targeted". )

AR81

07-23-2002, 07:44 PM

Episode 76 of the Chinese version of X-Files... conspiracy theories… don’t you miss Episode 77 The death of Superman… In this chapter Superman will save Kat only to discover that he was exposed to microwave cannon energy. It is revealed that microwave is the type of energy that was emitted by Kryptonite…76. Installing something in car (7/21) If install process didn’t work fine, just uninstall and reboot your car.

kathaksung

08-05-2002, 05:33 PM

78. Mail manipulating (7/30)

I had bedroom for rent. When tenants moved out, sometimes there would be a few letters still coming. But it was few and won't last long. If that happens, I called them to pick up it.

About one year ago, something unusual happened. Everyday, I received several letters to a tenant who moved away eight years ago. Although these were junk mail mostly from credit card company, there was no reason for that tenant to use the address he lived 8 years ago. I fear it's another dirty method to plant crime on me that if I throw these junk mail in rubbish can. I could be accused of abusing other people's private mail. So I have to return every letter by blacken my address and writing 'Moved. Return." on each envelope. It became a routine. They made it one to three letters each day more than a year. I think they constantly put the tenant's name with my address in credit line and kept a bunch of the junk mail, let the mail carrier deliver some every day.

In later May, T suddenly gave a week's notice of moving away. He also asked me to keep his mail. He said he would come back to pick up them several weeks later. I refused. That would have been a bunch of letters, that could have been a bunch of accusations, too. I still remember FBI accused 56 crimes on Wen Ho Lee, they counted each tape Lee had down loaded as one crime. I told him there was a transfer service by post office. What he needed to do was only to fill a form in post office. And if he gave me the new address, I would help him transferring his mail. T burst into rage. That was first time I saw him losing his temper. He blamed me for not helping him and said he didn't know the new address though he knew how to get there. I was firm that I would return all his mail if he won't give me the new address. I told him the way he had found the new rented house was also the way he could find the address. And I believe my suggestion was better for him. It took only 5 miles to go to post office for requesting service while it took 50 miles to drive from Oakland to San Jose to pick up mail. And instead of several weeks delay, the transfer service may only cost 2 days for each letter. He at last gave me the new address. Strange thing was though T said he filled the address change notice in post office, his letters were still sent to my house. And his mail replaced old tenant's. The day I started to write new address on envelope of T's mail, was the day they stopped sending old tenant's letter which had constantly poured in everyday for more than a year. It looked like all these financial company had been noticed there was no such a person in my house in same day.

In early July, T wrote a letter to me saying that he changed his address again. He said he had informed post office of changed new address. In case there were letters still sending to my house, he authorized me to throw the junk mail away. But he emphasized that there was possibility that INS would mistakenly send his immigration document to my house though he had noticed them of address changing. He hoped I could transfer the INS mail to him if such things happened. His request remind me of experience in Thailand.

79. Mail planting

In March, 2000, after I complained to US consulate in Thailand of alleged FBI abusing, my wife mailed me the tax return document. I worked on it in reception hall of the guesthouse because it was spacious and airy and with a big table there. When I almost finished the work, a man came to me and asked, "Are you filing tax return?" He said he was from US. The 1040 tax form on table reminded him the life in America. We had a little chat. That afternoon, he and other tenants checked out. Some Thai people moved in. The guesthouse was particularly run for western backpack travellers. The sudden change alarmed me. Agents used to watch as close as they could, and avoid being involved if there was an operation occurring. Would there be an operation coming? I could feel the pressure after complaining. Newspaper densely reported drug arrest on board so I had feared they might plant drug in my bag. I was suddenly aware, they could plant in mail too. I didn't mail documents to my wife next day. Instead I tried to deliver it by electronic transmission.

At first, I tried computer but failed. There were so much trouble and harassment: technical problem, personal problem, they even closed the transfer service of the internet bar I attending. I gave up several days later. Then I thought of fax. I had my wife's confirm that fax machine of her tour company working 24 hours. I went to state run telecom to fax. The staff there assured me of receiving. They pointed to a mark on paper, said it was a confirmation of receiving feedback by the other party. But next day my wife said she didn't find copy because the paper of fax machine exhausted. They didn't know the story of confirmation mark. What I did was at midnight that day, I found an internet bar worked later. I called my wife in her office, (It's morning in US) making sure the fax machine was working, then sent all the copies. I experienced all troubles they created in electronic transmission once they wanted victim to use mail.

If I had mailed the document by post office, the envelope would have been a big express one. And I think the INS' mail envelope T talked about will be the same big. Big enough to plant some drugs.

80. Operation TIPS

In mid-July, Ashcroft announced Operation TIPS in which government will recruit one million mail carriers, utility readers..... to be informants to report suspicious event.

The operation is an absurd one designed for particular purpose.
1. It will do little to stop terrorist. Do they expect those informants will recognize terrorist at one glance? Or terrorist will show them the bomb they made? It could hurt the normal police work by flooding false information.
2. If FBI couldn't handle properly with many valued clues,(e.g. they even neglected report about suspect who connected to 911 attack by their own field office of Minisota and Phoenix.) Why they now prefer information from inexperienced amateurs?
3. In a hurry. One million informants, even one per cent of that amount, will consume a lot of resource. Interview, training....how much does it cost? They didn't talk about it. But within days, in August, they will carry on the plan. It only means they are planed to do something under that name of TIPS.
4. Unnecessary. Informant should work covertly. If they really need some informants, the recruit must be in secret. Now what will people think of those people of mail carrier, truckers...? Why did they openly announce that notorious plan?
5. It will invade people's privacy. It's a plan spited by most people. It will hurt the fame of current government and thus influence the coming Nov. election. Yet, they choose this time to announce such a plan, obviously are in urgent.

As a matter of fact, they already have a complete surveillance net all over the country. What they need is to find an excuse. In Cement gate scandal, it's obviously an result of intelligence surveillance. Lacking of such an excuse, they left a suspended "deep throat". In Lewinsky scandal, they had Linda Trip to play that 'excuse'. In many cases, they got secret through illegal surveillance. They couldn't say it because they don't want people be aware of they are under monitor. TIPS will give a reasonable excuse for them. 'One million' is a random pick used to describe the popularity of the plan. They didn't consider other factor when they talked about it.

In previous messages I talked about they are in a hurry to murder me. TIPS is a continue to that 'in a hurry'. I said they tried to kill if I go outside. When this is revealed, they turn it into my own house.
Now they could have an easy informant to report suspicious mail. Though I have been under surveillance for more than 10 years, this time they can give a reasonable excuse under the name of TIPS. The mail carrier will play an important role in it. That's why when people cheer that post office said they won't join the program, I remind them a news neglected by most ones. Quote, "WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a shift from its position 24 hours earlier, the U.S. Postal Service said Thursday it had decided to meet with the Justice Department to discuss Operation TIPS, a government plan to encourage U.S. postal workers to report suspicious activity as part of the government's war on terrorism."
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/18/operation.tips/index.html

They had made supreme court announcing the rule "of police search in bus" on 6/17, they of course made Post Service to join the TIPS because it's in a hurry.

Dreadnaught

08-06-2002, 12:50 AM

Heh, throwing out someone's junk mail if its improperly sent to you isn't a crime. If it's sent to your address, it's yours. Yes, it would be nice if you got someone elses paycheck to send it to them, but ultimately it's the Post Offices fault. Though I find it hysterical to imagine you sitting around with a bunch of someone-elses junk mail, writing stuff on it in fear that the feds are going to prosecute you with something. :rolleyes:

The rest of the stuff about Thiland is your usual crap...

Though I do respect your views on operation TIPS, your whole claims about the in-place observation team are just nuts as usual.

Have a nice day, Kat. Or else they'll get you. ;)

AR81

08-06-2002, 12:29 PM

Junkmail? Gonna tell you what you should do with the sender… ban him!:D

kathaksung

08-10-2002, 05:49 PM

Thanks for suggestion. I return them anyway.

81. "Mysterious blow"

In message "13. Microwave ray shooting and EM sleep wave(2)" I talked about how they combined two high techniques to hurt. They use EM sleep wave to stabilize the victim, make them unaware of the pain caused by microwave ray shooting until the damage reached a severe level. Though there was a great pain, I didn't complain to anyone. I even tried to walk about although each movement would cause severe headache. I knew a drop of blood will appeal a crowd of sharks. I was afraid they would continue the attack if they knew it was a success. I tried to be as usual as I could. Which, I think, led to another attack as an experience.

Soon after that horrible experience, on March 2, 1994, San Jose Mercury News reported "EX-PANTHER LEADER HURT CRITICALLY, CLEAVER SEIZED IN DRUG CASE " It said, "Eldridge Cleaver, a former Black Panther Party leader, was in critical condition in a Berkeley hospital Tuesday night after a cocaine arrest and five hours of surgery for a mysterious brain injury. Surgeons removed a portion of Cleaver's skull to relieve the pressure building on his brain from internal bleeding. The injury apparently came from a blow to the head, according to Alta Bates Hospital officials, but how it happened remained a mystery. The Berkeley police officers who arrested Cleaver in the predawn hours Tuesday said they had no indication he had suffered a head injury."

I immediately realized it was another experiment on their high tech. weapon. Although there was "no indication he had suffered a head injury", and Cleaver "did not say anything about head pain.", Emergency room doctors performed a CAT scan and had a surgery on his brain right away, a treatment so swift that hardly a normal patient could dream of, despite Cleaver was an arrested drug suspect.

The late development proved my opinion was correct. They put an extraordinary emphasis on a common drug arrest. For the whole week, there were 8 articles about this case. Sometimes two in a day. And in articles, they repeated "five hours of surgery for a mysterious brain injury." "He underwent surgery two days ago for a brain hemorrhage caused by a mysterious blow ", "Cleaver underwent brain surgery after he suffered a mysterious blow to the head Tuesday". "Berkeley police are still stumped over an injury to former Black Panther Party leader Eldridge Cleaver,".

Of course, doctors and police could never dream of the blow was from high tech. weapon. And have to attribute it to an "apparent blow" of mysterious. Black people used to be picked up in dangerous mission, so be in dangerous experiment. Especially the group which are under FBI surveillance. I knew since then Black Panther was a hit target of FBI, which proved by newspaper article, " Pratt, new book examines role of FBI." (10/8/2000). (I had a message, "60. Plant, Frame and alleged murder ") And in this case, they organized a quick surgery to check the result of their high tech. weapon by removing victims skull. Of course, they made the arrest reasonable by finding drugs in victim's pocket. It's easy to plant when victim was under influence of sleep wave. By the way, the high tech. they used in such a case should be three. In addition to "Microwave ray", "EM sleep wave", there should be "Thermal imagine", because they shoot behind wall. An infra scanner enables them seeing through wall.

82. West Nile virus

On August 3, Saturday, my wife went out with my daughter. I was home alone. I was surfing internet when I felt a swollen pain in my head. With my experience I knew what happened . I left computer to the other room. After a while, I went back to computer, only felt an increased brain pain. I had to leave for front yard to do some garden work. There was few such attacks occurring after I revealed it in internet except EM sleep wave.( I think because it's not lethal) . Different from former feeling, there was not an severe pain but a vast swollen pain which was very uncomfortable. They use it when I was alone. Do they develop the weapon from ray into a field function weapon. Just then, three cars went into the lane, from the empty garage they entered, I learned that my neighbor were all emptied during attack. Their return meant the attack was finished. I went back to the computer.

On the same day, there was an article in S.J.Mercury news, "Virus outbreak kills 4, forces Louisiana to seek aid". It said the deaths in Louisiana are the first in the country this year. (Which means there were no deaths in first seven months all over the country) It prompted Governor to declare an emergency. Though the article didn't say the symptoms of this disease, it talked a lot of its spreading. I learned from other articles that it resembles meningitis, which lead to brain death.

During the period from March to May 2001, there was a dense report of meningitis in bay area which was the same time I alleged FBI's first frame case.(see Freeh's resignation) I warned they might used meningitis to cover up brain death murder. Now it looks like same thing happened. Death rate arised and death age lowered. There is an unusual dense report of West Nile virus in media and paper said how California is ready for it. It's their tactic to cover up individual case under a popular situation. (such like made Police search in bus popular under 6/17 Supreme court announcement, Mail carrier report popular under One million TIPS plan) While 8 years ago, doctor attributed Cleaver's brain hurt to 'mysterious blow', the developed technique enables them to attribute brain death to West Nile virus or meningitis. And until we can thoroughly clean US law enforcement agency, people can't get rid of the terror and threat of murder which under the cover of heart attack, stroke, cancer, decease of meningitis, West Nile virus, Mad cow decease.....

Master[\/]][[\][)

08-10-2002, 05:56 PM

You ever thought about sending these to a tabloid? Make some money off it? :weird: ;)

Shinigami

08-11-2002, 02:55 PM

I'm sure if the whole thing was for real, any newspaper wanting to post the story would end up getting "snipped"

kathaksung

08-21-2002, 08:15 PM

83. Spy country (8/21)

When I started my thread in internet, a message told me, the content of " The newspaper titled: " Heroin bust called U.S. record".(See San Jose Mercury, 6-22-1991)." is a day off...

Quote, "You cited the wrong date! Although the rest of your newspaper and highway information (in Bay Area holds up). "
He gave me an URL to check:
http://nl13.newsbank.com/nlsite/region_pgs/ca_search.htm

I thus knew my article was under scrutiny. I live in San Jose. I read San Jose Mercury News. Most news reference were from it.
There were some people doubted that when I said Walt Disney was an informant. (#29. "I'm you, American")
Question, quote, "What was Walt informing on? Mickey's communist ties? Goofy's drug problems? Minnie's prostitution busts? "

With above URL, choose S.J.M.N, with appropriate key words and time, you can find news I referred.

Quote,"But most disturbing,....is the allegation that Disney was an FBI informant, recruited by J. Edgar Hoover to snitch on employees and Hollywood colleagues in exchange for favors....."
See whole story in "THE AUTHOR WAS WALT DISNEY A WICKED WITCH? OR IS THIS MAN GOOFY?" San Jose Mercury News, 8/1/1993.
In Chinese newspaper "World Journal"(5/7/93, page 3A) talked about this too. W.Disney was FBI's informant from 1940 to 1966 he passed away. It also talked about former President Ronno Reagan was a FBI informant, code 'T-10', when he was president of Actor and Actress Association(translation) in 1947.

Are these the only informants FBI have had? Of course not. FBI titled W. Disney "Full Special Agent in Charge Contact" in 1954. It's 50 years passed, a net of surveillance should have been developed already. And in addition to this informant net, we can see there is another army of FBI: retired FBI. They are still the eye and ear and hand of the Bureau. And they used to occupy important position. Such like Ornell, who became Chief in charge of security of WTC after retirement. Still they say they are outnumbered in war on terror. They want recruit one million more TIPS. A spy country that Gestapo and KGB have ever dreamed of. A monstrous power that almost equal to Defense Department. But it's not used to defend US citizens, it's used to spy on them.

84. Mind read and mind control

Quote, "NASA plans to read terrorist's minds at airports
By Frank J. Murray
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Airport security screeners may soon try to read the minds of travelers to identify terrorists.

Officials of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration have told Northwest Airlines security specialists that the agency is developing brain-monitoring devices in cooperation with a commercial firm, which it did not identify.
Space technology would be adapted to receive and analyze brain-wave and heartbeat patterns, then feed that data into computerized programs "to detect passengers who potentially might pose a threat," according to briefing documents obtained by The Washington Times.""

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020817-704732.htm

As a matter of fact, this technique has been developed by Pentagon and was in practical use more than ten years ago. I had such experience. (see #12 - #16. "Mind control, EM sleep wave") I posted it in internet one year ago. The news 8/19 from Washington times proves it. Only they won't say they use it to control people.

When President Bush was fainted and tumbled to the floor, bruising his cheek this January, newspaper said it was because a pretzel he was eating wend down wrong. But a choking food would cause coughing, the reality didn't show so. When people can't explain something, they used to find a possible reason. Such like they attribute John Gotti's cancer to "neglect of dental implant", a brain death to 'stroke' or 'meningitis', or even 'mysterious blow' in Cleaver's case. Doctors could never dream of "Radioactive material", "microwave shooting", "Electric magnet wave field"....

In my experience, I felt the sleep wave is irresistible. I could sometimes get away because I was aware of it. For innocent people, they sleep over. I alleged they used sleep wave on President. I had experience they using high tech. to torture people as private punishment. And they use that to punish politicians frequently too if politicians didn't satisfy their demand. They used to use it when victim is alone. Bush was alone but two dogs when he fainted.

AR81

08-21-2002, 08:41 PM

Every forum has its own crackpot.
He might be a crackpot but he is our crackpot...:p
Airport security screeners may soon try to read the minds of travelers to identify terrorists. Have you read the mind of that guy? He thinks he's got a gun... :D
The mind reading stuff was already posted in a separate thread, so it is nothing new.

Do you have any conspiracy theory regarding the antigravity experiments of Boeing R&D program? Or antigravity is too high tech to have a conspiracy theory in which you are involved?:eek: :bulb::confused:

DarkWraith

08-21-2002, 09:11 PM

AR81

08-22-2002, 12:28 AM

And I thought I was the only one the government was out to get! This morning, I stubbed my toe. Obviously, this is the result of the CIA's secret toe-stubbing wave cannon. You need to watch out for that one too. Fight the power, Kat! Today I woke up late to go to work because I was asleep. Now that you say that, I reached the conclussion that they are playing with my brainwaves to test how much psychotronic energy is required so a human being can't hear a clock alarm. The experiment seemed to work. I had to take a taxi.

In my way to work, a guy put his car in front of the taxi. He was obviously looking for an excuse to start a fight. They wanted to kill me because I realized about the clock experiment. They would hit me with their microwave cannon. They couldn't hit me because I was inside the cabbie and metal reflects microwaves

Then I realized that clock alarms are dangerous and if you don't want to pass through this you better get rid of your clock.

I heard rumors that they wanted to put me in space to see what happened to a human in the Van Allen magnetic belt. However it seems that they couldn't get enough budget. Having a full time payroll equipped with hellos a van and a power consuming microwave cannon was too expensive to afford my trip to space.

Oh my God!! I have unveiled the secret of the clock alarms!!:eek: Do you have a decent place to hide from those sinister clock microwavers?? Mom, I'm scared...:cry:

BTW my clock is a GE clock. I might pressume that Casio could be helping them so I use my wris****ch only which has a smaller snooz mechanism to wake up...:weird:

Citizen Kane

08-22-2002, 01:09 AM

Well, at least this thread amuses me.

kathaksung

09-01-2002, 08:08 PM

85. Chinese secret police and DNA (9/1)

There are four houses in the lane I live. Two at the entrance of the lane. Let's call them A,B house. Two at the bottom of lane. Let's call them C, D. I live in C. My house shares a common wall with D house.

The families of A, B, actually didn't live there. Agent might have moved them to somewhere nearby, according to my observation. But their furniture and belongings were still there as a disguise. And they still come back from time to time to pick up their belongings. I often told my relative as a story that people in A, B houses were not neighbor but agent who monitoring. And each time I talking about it, next day there always would be a show. My neighbor would play in lane, washing cars, riding bikes, made a large noise. But it only lasted about an hour or so. I call it swift response, and Emperor's new clothe's show.

B neighbor sold their house on February 2001. The new owner was a lady from China. So then B, C, D all lived by people from China. I felt Chinese secret police were heavily involved in.

On November, 2001, T(tenant) took a friend home, saying his friend happenedly rented a bedroom in D house. I feard there might be a violence because my view of anthrax attack. I rejected him right away that night. I haven't seen him ever since. T later said that his friend might have gone back to China. (story see #44. My tenant)

In late May this year, lady of B house suddenly came to visit T. I then knew they were aquaintance, too. T then told me the lady was selling B house. In early June, house A neighbor were absent too. No car in parking lot for days. Newspaper piled up, became yellow under sunshine. B house lady and T's sudden leaving, absence of A house alarmed me. I could only guess there would be something going to happen, so T had to leave to avoid be involved. But I couldn't find the reason why A, B houses were emptied. It left me a puzzle.

I stayed at home, feard there would be a police violence outside for me. Then found TIPS programe would directly send agent to my house.

On August 22, in the evening, B lady(who had sold B house already) came to my home, said she wanted to buy air tickets to China. (my wife is travel agent). She stayed about 30 minutes. At midnight that day, a lady knocked at our door, said she lived in D house,(but I don't know her)complained the sound of TV harassed her. This was an excuse obviously. My daughter's TV was in very low volume. Her room is oppsite to mine. I even didn't know she was watching TV when her door was closed. I kept alert on these ladies, didn't talk to them, left them for my wife. Next day in noon, two ladies (I've never seen before) came to visit my father in law. I kept away from them and stay washing in the kitchen. . But a lady aggresively came to the kitchen saying hello to me and self introduced herself. All these ladies came from China, and so densely visit my home in less than 24 hours. An aggressive frame attempt?

I noticed recently in newspaper there's a densely report about rape cases. In which they using DNA cleared several suspects. One was cleared even he had admitted he committed rape crime when he was arrested. It seemed they were going to set up the authorization of DNA test that it could decide everything. But DNA, just like other evidence, can be planted. They can easily collect victim's hair, sperm and plant it like a gun. Especially the victim is under 24 hours surveillance. And all rubbish are in scrutiny. Even dirty water in drainage.

86. FISA Secret Court ruling

In Aug. 23, newspaper reported that "Secretive federal court that approves spying on terror suspects has refused to give the Justice Department broad new powers in the war on terrorism, saying government misused the law and misled the court. The court was so concerned by A.G. Ashcroft's behind-the-scenes efforts to broaden the FBI's spying abilities that the court in May secretly ordered Ashcroft to scale back the regulations."

I then knew I had been under surveillance of FISA warrant. The news also resolved my puzzle of why T and B house lady's sudden leaving and the absence of House A in early June. That's the result of court's scale back the regulations.

I reviewed my message from May and found my observation were correct very much. It reflects how Ashcroft and FBI reacted when they lost FISA warrant in later May.
1. Turn on into local police and ploted police violence. (see message from #67 to #77) The plot mainly planed in June and July.
2. When I stayed at home to avoid their murder attemption, Ashcroft announced TIPS plan in July and would apply it in practice on August. A plan to send agent direct to the house, and use informant's report to replace FISA warrant. (#80. TIPS)
3. The unusual visits of Chinese ladies in August 22, 23 probably was a burst rage to the released opinion of judges of Secret Court. An effort for another frame case.

Report said there was rage in meeting room between Judges and officials of DOJ. It is understandable. The culture of FBI is rogue style. Because unchecked power they behaved like commander. They burst into rage if being checked. Just like those who criticize Ashcroft eroding civil liberty were laballed "aiding enemy", "unpatriot". Under such a pressure judges were forced to announce their opinion, first time in history of Secret Court.

What's the problem in this dispute?

FISA is an Act aimed at agent of foreign country, or terrorist(after 911). It used in foreign intelligence investigation. The warrant is issued in very low standard. It can't be used in criminal investigation.(domestic) Because US citizen is protected by 4th Amendment from unreasonable search and seizure.

Ashcroft argue that Patriot Act give DOJ the power to share intelligence gained from FISA with criminal investigation, if it comes to true, then 4th Amendment means nothing. Through the hand of foreign government, a US citizen can be under surveillance and be searched at any time.

FBI is notorious for abusing power. To get a warrant, they gave wrong information to the judge. It's cheating, or what they said, "error". In early 2000, my application of asylum in Thailand first revealed their cheating. Freeh was said had resigned once but stayed in his position. When I went back to US and revealed more in internet, Freeh resigned from his post. But still planed an failed 'June framed case'. These, maybe what the court opinion said "misuse of law and misled the court", done by DOJ and FBI during Clinton administration. Then there was failed "May 3 frame case". Though it was done by FBI district Chief, "Ashcroft's behind scene efforts" played an important role. And I think once again, Judges found they were cheated by DOJ and FBI. This led to Sceret court's May 17 order to scale back the regulation.

Dreadnaught

09-01-2002, 08:30 PM

Getting a little borin, Kat. Spice it up, like in the old days, when you would talk about falling asleep while driving and blame it on agents. :p :haha:

Though it's interesting how you believe that the Federal government is spying on you as a terrorist now. Before it was drugs, microwave beams, and all sorts of other stuff. You're narrowing things down a bit because the political/judicial climate in post-Sept. 11 America has really given you some fodder.

I'll give you some credit for keeping up with the news and spinning a tale based on it, but (as usual) no credit for any of your crap being true.:)

DarkWraith

09-01-2002, 10:55 PM

Another message from Kat! You're posts are still entertaining, but Dreadnaught's right, they're getting a bit boring. You're stretching more and more to make these events seem like a conspiracy.

Maybe we can help you spice up the next few episodes? For example, did you know that pennies are passed around to collect people's DNA? Everybody eventually touches a penny, so the FBI has everybody's DNA on file. For evidence planting and such. Or cloning. I hear they sometimes use the DNA to create a clone, which they then replace the original person with! They remove their target, and nobody even knows it!

I haven't seen any posts about aliens yet. All good conspiracy theories need aliens somewhere. Work them in somehow. Maybe they're the ones who gave the FBI the microwave cannon? You know how the FBI and the Chinese secret police are always on to you so fast? Maybe that's because the aliens are watching you from space and giving them information on where you are!

Keep fighting the power, Kat!

kathaksung

09-14-2002, 02:25 AM

87. Flooding (9/13)

Flooding is a common way DEA, FBI used to detect if there is any valuable things in people's home. (see story in "4. Burglary and flooding")

In early August, my wife said she is going to re-model bathroom. Alerted by Ashcroft's TIPS programe, I'm afraid this might be another attempt to send agents direct to the house. I adviced my wife that her plan would empty saving's book. We should keep a little money for emergence. She insisted on her idea. She made a call right away, spoke loudly to instruct contractor how to get to our house. I asked how did she know this contractor. She said it was from newspaper. My wife choked up when I requested to see that newspaper. She had none. I felt she was manipulated to do so. I made it straight it might be undercover agents. That I didn't care about detection but did worry of violence and planting. I declared I would reject any coming contractor. My wife went into the room, made a call with low voice. I thought she reported to her handler. The said contractor never appear.

On Sept. 5, an article in "World Journal" caught my eye. A man said his drainage was blocked frequently, then caused flooding. He learned from internet that there was a "camara in pipe" service
nearby. He asked one which resolved his problem. It found the root of tree growing inside the drainage. Since many strange things occured recently, and I was familiar with thetactic of pre-propaganda and advice by agents, (see "66. Turn innocent into criminal") I had a strong feeling it might be another attemption of "go into house" tactic. I told my wife, "Be careful, there maybe a flooding."

Though I foresaw a flooding, I didn't expect it come so fast. On Sunday, Sept.8, when we were washing clothes, there was a big flooding from wash machine. I told my wife, "If you still remembe the warning I said two days ago."while cleaning the water. Of course, I wouldn't ask for "camara the pipe" service. My wife bought a tool in store. I cleand the pipe with that tool.

88. Foreign hand

On Sept. 11, an article "Bush lawyer backs new search policy" said, "A Bush administration lawyer defended the government's new policy of allowing its law enforcement investigators to press for secret searches of suspected foreign agents, saying Tuesday that this co-ordinated approach is needed in the war on terrorism.... If the FBI can show that a person is linked to a "foreign power" or terrorist group, its agents can wiretap him, even if they have no evidence of wrongdoing."(S.J.M.N. 9/11/02)

It explains why different Chinese ladies visited my house three times within 24 hours on Aug.22 and 23. Some of them are Chinese secret police, I suspected. A lady even visited at midnight, a trick often used by agents in trap. (see "49. Frame attemption" and "54. Trap") Though they acted to cooperation with FBI, the report could be, "Foreign agents visit Kat Hak Sung", even could be with picture as evidence. Thus a FISA warrant was easily issued.

Nobody can avoid to contact foreigners. If you know none, they can aggressively creat some. Especially when foreign police co-ordinated with FBI and CIA.

A news in last October said Atta had contacted an Iraq diplomat in Czech in Spring and talked about a bombing plot. Though the news was originally designated to frame Iraq that it had links to 911 terrorist, it also revealed Atta was under surveillance by intelligence earlier. After I pointed out this, months later, Czech government said the news might be wrong. Our intelligence can made foreign country let out conflict information to cover up their flaws.

Are American citizens still under protection of the Constitution from unreasonable search and seizure?

Hotfoot

09-14-2002, 03:09 AM

Took your damn time! You're three days late! What sort of operation do you think this is here anyway?

I lost TWENTY BUCKS because of you....

Dreadnaught

09-14-2002, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by Hotfoot
Took your damn time! You're three days late! What sort of operation do you think this is here anyway?

I lost TWENTY BUCKS because of you....

Ditto.:mad: :)

Heh, so Kat: your wife is now against you in this massive conspiracy? Glad your such a good husband. I mean, whenever my girlfriend tells me about something she read in a newspaper that was probably thrown out days ago, I too become suspicious that she's working for the FBI.:rolleyes: :haha: :haha:

AR81

09-14-2002, 04:52 PM

87. Flooding (9/13) UT users, apparently agents who are trying to make Kat not to post and to make Hotfoot to loose his 20 bucks, have flooded Community Chat, causing an important delay in Kat posts.88. Foreign hand As UT users made Kat not to post while he had a chance, he had to run in order to escape from all the agents (about an entire division) who were chasing him using 2 choppers (they made a requisition and got a new one because the task of chasing Kat was going out of hands), a van and let us not forget the famous hi-tech microwave cannon.

After Kat realized about the conspiracy against him by the UT users (agents), he got to find a new computer to post with some days of delay about what happened to him, making Hotfoot 20 bucks.

Hotfoot, it was a conspiracy of UT users against you, they must have had some more bucks to lose in case Kat came here.:haha: :weird: Heh, so Kat: your wife is now against you in this massive conspiracy? Don't forget about the UT users.
I too become suspicious that she's working for the FBI.There is a way to know it. Ask her about Kat, if she seems to know nothing, then she is, because the microwave cannon which is being tested on Kat is classified.:p I'm afraid this might be another attempt to send agents direct to the house. Yup. Be aware that the plumber might have a biomedical device to measure the effects of the microwave cannon...:eek: :haha: It explains why different Chinese ladies visited my house three times within 24 hours on Aug.22 and 23. Kat, either you are good looking or you are just showing off?:weird: A lady even visited at midnight, a trick often used by agents in trap. Was she good looking? Did she offer sex to enter your house? Did she look hot? Did she desperately beg you to have sex? If you answer yes to more than 2 questions then she is an agent.:eek: Glad your such a good husband. Try not to upset your wife or even show her you think she is an agent. It not wise to upset an agent at home, specially if she is armed. You can't be armed because they might use it as an excuse to send more agents after you.

Also, try not to have more kids if you have any. That would bring more little agents to this world.:cool:

kathaksung

09-25-2002, 07:40 PM

89. Polygraph law makers (9/25)

In early June, a news said the conversations between Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and Mohammed Atta were intercepted by NSA. It said in two separate conversations on Sept. 10, 2001 contained the pharases "Tomorrow is zero hour" and "The match is about to begin.". Since these two pharases are vague one and consider NSA intercepts 2 million conversations in each hour, the pick up of these two phrases was not a coincidence. It proves that Atta was under surveillance by government earlier before 911.

Then FBI said it was a secret intelligent information which shouldn't be let out public. They are investigating who has leaked it. They target on law makers and even request a polygraph.

But who will investigate the secret information leaking committed by intelligence itself?

When the news said Atta made contact to Iraq diplomat in Czech and talked about bombing plot, it leaked that Atta and Iraq diplomate were under surveillance and it leaked Czech intelligence was cooperated with USA.

There is another similar news release. By February 2001, NSA had broken the bin Laden's communications encryption system. What we know from the information government released is that OBL talked to his mother two days before 911 attack, "In two days, you're going to hear big news, and you're not going to hear from me for a while." It let people know that Bin laden's communication was under surveillance as long as 6 months before 911. And his communication code was broken.

Nobody could release such information but intelligence. Though the original purpose of news about Atta and Iraq diplomate was to target on Iraq to frame it linking with 911 terrorist, so administration could have excuse to start a war on Iraq. And the news of Bin Laden's intercepted conversation was used to find a legal base for Bush to start war in Afghan. These information leaking are as important as the Atta's "Tomorrow is zero huor" one. Why FBI had a blind eye on these secret leakings? Because they were released by intelligence?

The secret information leaking FBI accused took place in early June, at a time when lawmakers and 911 victims were going to investigate failure of intelligence of 911 attack with an independent commision. It could be a trap intelligence set. They use this method to retaliate, or extort law makers to avoid investigation on their own flaw or crime. Or to reach a compromise.

If we don't know these "secrecy", we will believe what government said that they had known nothing before attack. "Secret" is only a stonewall they used to cover up thier corruption.

90. Internet censorship (3)

I suffered many harassment in internet, mostly technical proplem. Slow entering is way they used to use. Recently they invented a new method to delay entering. They give an "error" page to lock up the whole screen, meanwhile my brewser would lost function. I have to wait for sometime until they set up everything. What kind of things they are settling? For some new web site, it's a routine they'll check first if I was allowed to enter. If not, the page next will be "Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request". Thus I was denied entering.

For some web site I have a thread already, they use "Hide and seek" censorship. In which when I click in, everything is normal. When I left, they took my thread away. Then for the most time, my thread was censored from readers. They could do this because I used to click in according to my "Favorite Places" list. The agent monitoring me saw that list too. So they knew which site I would go next and get everything ready. Everything looks normal until I occasionally broke sequence. (Sometimes I jumped back to the site I had been in hours ago to correct some mistakes) Then strange thing happened. I couldn't find my thread. After repeated search I made a complaint about missing thread. Then the missing thread appeared. They used to give a explanation to cover up. This is one from TB2000.com:

Quote, "Sysman (Senior Member)

This is what happens. As EVERY thread moves from page 1 to page 2, it gets "lost" for a few minutes, untill the next thread bumps it down 1 more. Then it shows up as the first thread on the second page, and the next thread is "lost" etc. etc. etc. "

Here is another explanation from realcities.com/

Quote, "MaxImmelmann RE: Strange thing 06/07/02 10:57AM

.... This board has the occasional problem, and yesterday was just one of those days. ...

There was a straight comment to my complaint from other readers in quorum.org

Quote, "Free speach maybe not. posted 08/03, by chickmcd </a-national/member/chickmcd/bio>

Free speach may not be allowed here. Some replies or polls on certain subjects seem to get deleted or lost. It would seem that if you are critical about certain things or lifestyle choices your thoughts may be censored"

The funny thing is when I went back to quorum.org, after sometime, the missing thread would re-surfaced. They tried to assure me everything was normal.

Now when I tried a random click in, what they did is lock up my screen browser, made me wait until they get everything ready. It substantially slowed my internet surfing. That's how Ashcroft's cyberteam work. They not only monitor, they also harass and censor, in a covert way.

Dreadnaught

09-25-2002, 07:59 PM

So first September 11 was orchestrated to go to war in Afghanistan, but now it's for a war in Iraq...just what you were saying all along, right? :rolleyes: There's no proof about an Iraq-Sept.11 connection, it was a rumor.

Believe me, we'd love a connection to have better reason to get the guy now.

As for the rest of the stuff: it displays your usual level of understanding, namely with the message boards. Not only in losing track of your threads (hey, if you fall asleep while driving, I'm sure you can lose track of your threads) but in your inability to realize that forums are PRIVATE property and can be treated as they wish by their owners.

Edgewise

09-26-2002, 12:07 AM

Kath, you better run man, I see some guys in white jackets comming this way with a big net and a couple of stun guns. :)

AR81

09-26-2002, 06:55 PM

In early June, a news said the conversations between Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and Mohammed Atta were intercepted by NSA. What does NASA have to do do with 9/11?:weird:
My guess is Kat is showing us the script of a spy movie called “Kathaksung never dies”. :D
This is what I would call “urban sci-fi”. :haha:
I see some guys in white jackets What agency are those guys from? Are they stormtroopers?:haha:

BTW, I’ve been thinking…
I heard that microwaves are used by cell phones and ECM devices.
Either the guys with the microwave cannon are beaming him a phone message or they are trying to jam him. :haha:

AR81

09-27-2002, 03:25 PM

Believe me, we'd love a connection to have better reason to get the guy now. Kat might find a connection between the first landing on the moon and that microwave cannon that is aiming at Kat.:eek:

Edgewise

09-28-2002, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by AR81
What does NASA have to do do with 9/11?:weird:
My guess is Kat is showing us the script of a spy movie called “Kathaksung never dies”. :D
This is what I would call “urban sci-fi”. :haha:
What agency are those guys from? Are they stormtroopers?:haha:

BTW, I’ve been thinking…
I heard that microwaves are used by cell phones and ECM devices.
Either the guys with the microwave cannon are beaming him a phone message or they are trying to jam him. :haha:
Actually, the guys in white jackets are people from the Insane Asylum. You know, where they stick all the crazies? :)

kathaksung

10-06-2002, 09:36 PM

91. Turn to on State legislatrure (10/6)

When Federal judge and legislature found DOJ and FBI abusing power and rebuked them. DOJ and FBI seems turn to on State legislature. Newspaper reported meeting of DOJ with FISA court judge in May, Agust then with legislature on Sept.11.

Two days later, news reported " SIMON TRIUMPHS IN FRAUD CASE RULING
Republican Bill Simon's faltering quest to unseat Democratic Gov. Gray Davis received a boost Thursday when a judge overturned a $78 million fraud verdict that had placed the investor's fledgling political career in jeopardy.
In an unusual move, Superior Court Judge James C. Chalfant rejected the civil jury's conclusion that Simon's investment firm had defrauded the owner of a pay telephone company by crafting a risky plan to take the firm public."

California Governor Gray Davis thus will face threat from his rival Bill Simon. The unusually thing is the judge who made the decision is nominated by Republican. At this time the verdict obviously benefits Republican in election. And it is rare that a judge overturning the conclusion of a jury.

A news on 9/17 surprised me. " DOCUMENTS ILLUSTRATE SIMON'S TAX DEAL TECHNIQUE CALLED FRAUD IN IRS SUIT AGAINST FIRM THAT SOLD STRATEGY " It's a negative news against Bill Simon. The media is manipulated by intelligence, did they change their mind? Not really, it seems like a new round of interest exchange. A news same day said, "GOVERNOR EXPANDS STATE WIRETAP LAW California's little-used wiretap law is expected to become more popular with police and prosecutors under a bill signed Monday and an initiative that received court clearance earlier this year.
Gov. Gray Davis extended its use to investigations of those suspected of crimes involving bombs, bioterrorism and weapons of mass destruction when he signed a series of anti-terrorism laws."

I think Federal agent's behind scene effort made this "unusual move" of judge, and pushed Davis to extend "little-used" wiretap law. They pick up something from state which they lost in Federal.

92. Internet censorship (4)

On 10/4, I posted a message "Oppose war with Iraq"in a web-site of Yahoo. It failed to be listed. I then posted another message, it was listed instantly. So I tried "Oppose war with Iraq" again, but failed again. It seems the agent monitoring me hated that message very much and handle all my internet posting instantly. I used to leave if I was blocked to post. But this time I wrote a message "Selective post" to protest. They must have seen the complaint while I was writing. When I finished the complain message, the blocked two messages were in list already. The sequence in list is:
#20720. FBI knew Heaven's Gate suicide in advance (Oct.4 11:28)
#20722. Oppose war with Iraq (Oct.4 11:30)
#20723. Oppose war with Iraq (Oct.4 11:30)

I checked 20722 which ought to be posted before 20720. Inside page shows the posting time is 11:27. They released it when they saw I writing complain message.

It took place in "Debate and More"

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Debate_and_More/messages/20735?viscount=-30

The article "Oppose war with Iraq" had been posted in "Newsmax.com" and "quorum.org", but both were moved away from list while my other messages are untouched. What's wrong with it? (see 93)

93. Oppose war with Iraq

It seems the war on Iraq is inevitabel. Because this war is for the interest of Israel. And you can see the tremendous influence of Israel here, both on politicians and media. (The weak reaction of Democratic Party and less of criticism of media) Anyhow I'll try my best to express my opinion to politicians. If people are agree with my opinions, (either all or part of them) I welcome them to share with it for their convinence. The following is the e-mail I have mailed to politicians.

The honorable
US Senate
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator

I'm writing you to oppose any authorization the war power to President Bush and his Cabinet at this movement.

I urge you to oppose war on Iraq because of the following reason:

1. There is no sufficient justification to start such a war. President Bush accused Iraq of intending to build up mass dystruction weapons which will used to attack US. He has no strong evidence. In reality, Iraq shows intention to accept unconditional weapon's inspection.

2. The war only benefit the rich people with interest in military and oil industry and a particular country (Israel). US people will bear the cost alone. Which means Americans must pay money and blood for the interest of minority people at a time US economy in a down turn.

3. War can not solve problem. War in Afghan killed a lot of innocent people. The main target Bin Laden is still at large. Al Quada scattered all over the world.

4. War only creat hostility and enemy. It will help Al Quada to recruit more soldiers. US people will face an endless terror threaten. And we have no bunker, secret service for our security and we can't afford for a private flight.

5. Losing support from allies. Most countries are against war on Iraq. We are losing friends and sympathy of the world. The profile of US hurt badly.

6. Perhaps most important is it will help a dictatorship in US. If a policy is not based on legitmacy and common value but personal will and unilateral opinion, it's dictatorship not democracy.

In conclusion, I urge you oppose to authorize President Bush having a war on Iraq. Let U.N. take over the matter of Iraq.

Sincerely

Kat Hak Sung

Dreadnaught

10-06-2002, 10:49 PM

Too jumbled to even respond.:bulb:

Lewkowski

10-06-2002, 11:55 PM

....

Why is this thread alive?

Havne't you gotten tired of posting that stuff?

You need to write a book or something, you sure have a big enough imagination.

Edgewise

10-07-2002, 01:39 AM

Yeah, seriously. Write a book and go away already. You may sell a few copies in china. :)

AR81

10-07-2002, 09:57 AM

Actually, the guys in white jackets are people from the Insane Asylum. You know, where they stick all the crazies? Insane Asylum?:weird:
Is that a new secret agency?:eek: :D
Oh, I see, they are using such clothing to avoid being affected by microwave cannon residual radiation mentioned by Kat.:haha: :p

Greb

10-07-2002, 11:35 AM

Does anyone else think this would make a kickass Deus Ex mod? Seriously! :D

Greb

Gentry

10-07-2002, 03:25 PM

I have a brother who works for the CIA, or FBI, I'm not exactly sure which.
*rolls her eyes* He does this stuff. Like, we'll all gather for Christmas dinner to harass each other and compare bank accounts, and he'll be like, "Well, Gentry, I'm a doctor too!"
I know for a fact he's never been to med school. And so do the rest of my family.
The FBI's losing it's imagination.:rolleyes:

DarkWraith

10-07-2002, 04:48 PM

You know eventually he's going to try to log in here and get that 'server is busy' screen we've been seeing so much of, and it's going to show up as yet another number in the list of conspiracies against him.

Actually, now that I think about it, it's probably his fault that the server is so busy! Since the CIA and FBI apparently have nothing better to do but to watch and mess with him, they're probably flooding this server, and denying access to non-gov't people so they can have more bandwidth to watch him with.

AR81

10-07-2002, 05:08 PM

You know eventually he's going to try to log in here and get that 'server is busy' screen we've been seeing so much of, and it's going to show up as yet another number in the list of conspiracies against him. Oh no! The white guys from the IA (Insane Asylum) agency are coming after US!!! RUN LIKE HELL!!:DI know for a fact he's never been to med school. And so do the rest of my family. I would blame bureaucracy. Bureaucracy could turn a highly competent employee into a tamed desk job geek.Since the CIA and FBI apparently have nothing better to do but to watch and mess with him, they're probably flooding this server, and denying access to non-gov't people so they can have more bandwidth to watch him with. Kat must be really important so too many agents must be trying to access this forum at once. Else, you might think that FBI/CIA guys are fans of UT or you could read this… http://www.satirewire.com/news/0008/satire-fbiteens.shtml

DarkWraith

10-07-2002, 05:35 PM

Kat must be really important so too many agents must be trying to access this forum at once

Is there any doubt that he's that important? I mean, they've got vans full of agents watching him 24/7, they wiretap every phone in a wide area just in case he tries to use it, they build elaborate new devices and research new technologies whose sole purposes are to make him fall asleep or give him a slight headache, half the people he passes on the streets are undercover agents, and they spend the money to buy every single person (even his wife!) he ever comes into contact with. With this kind of attention, it's not too big a leap to figure that they've got dozens or maybe even hundreds of agents checking every activity he does on the internet.

What I want Kat to do is eventually explain -why- he's so important. That's gotta be some secret he has to warrant this kind of attention.

AR81

10-07-2002, 06:38 PM

What I want Kat to do is eventually explain -why- he's so important. That's gotta be some secret he has to warrant this kind of attention. I bet that's why this thread is alive. Kat seems to be a story teller. We WANT to know WHY is he so important but that is the last chapter.

What will happen to Kat?
Will he die like Superman or Mr. Spock?
Will he be abducted by an UFO that would be really a secret stealth device which uses technology from Roswell?
Are those agents related somehow with the Martians so the TIMEX, TEMP and STAR agencies are also involved in an intergalactic conspiracy against him who holds the magic Kryptonite antimicrowave crystal that will bring balance to the universe?
Don't miss the chapters to come...
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Hmmm... if it is a conspiracy that involves the safety of the universe, that might explain why a few million agents are after Kat. A few millions must be nothing for a galactic budget or a galactic agency involving 100,000 worlds.:D :p

Citizen Kane

10-07-2002, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by DarkWraith
You know eventually he's going to try to log in here and get that 'server is busy' screen we've been seeing so much of, and it's going to show up as yet another number in the list of conspiracies against him.

Actually, now that I think about it, it's probably his fault that the server is so busy! Since the CIA and FBI apparently have nothing better to do but to watch and mess with him, they're probably flooding this server, and denying access to non-gov't people so they can have more bandwidth to watch him with.

Yeah, you're right... but don't go spreading it around... as long as everyone blames it on the UT2k3 people, the government won't catch on to the fact that we're on to them!

Dreadnaught

10-07-2002, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by DarkWraith
What I want Kat to do is eventually explain -why- he's so important. That's gotta be some secret he has to warrant this kind of attention.

It's because someone he bought porcelean figurines from was convicted in a drug bust.

...oh, and while he sees nothing illigal about it, he "unwittingly" passed along a crate full of AK-47s that was sent to him to an agent representing a Columbian drug lord. :haha: :haha:

Even if that last one is true, he sure has a warped sense of right and wrong.

AR81

10-07-2002, 11:24 PM

...oh, and while he sees nothing illigal about it, he "unwittingly" passed along a crate full of AK-47s that was sent to him to an agent representing a Columbian drug lord. Yeah, Kat confessed his crimes.

The only remaining thing is to determine wether or not he is connected with intergalactic mobsters that could have caused the MIB to go after him. My guess is Kat owns the belt of Orion...:eek: :haha:

AR81

10-08-2002, 11:39 AM

So that's why MoO3 is getting delayed. Yeah, by now developers can name the game as "Master of... Where The F*ck is Orion... 3". Don't worry, MIB are after Kat to recover the belt of Orion and bring it back to release MoO3...:D

kathaksung

10-19-2002, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by DarkWraith

What I want Kat to do is eventually explain -why- he's so important. That's gotta be some secret he has to warrant this kind of attention.

How important am I? A question for FBI. If my case made directors of FBI and DEA resigned and Ashcroft rebuked by FISA Court, that's it.

kathaksung

10-19-2002, 08:43 PM

94. Interest exchange (10/19)

In June, newspaper reported, "Lai Changxing, accused of heading one of the biggest crime rings in communist China's history, was taken into custody Friday in Vancouver, B.C., after he was denied refugee status in Canada." It's a big case of smuggling and tax elusion. Seven people were excuted already, ten were sentenced to death.(Many of them were high ranking government officials) His deportation was unusual because he would be certainly put to death if he was back to China. Canada forbids any deportation if the deportee will face death. What made Canada made such a decision which is conflict to its law? I alleged there was a secret deal behind the scene. Lai was abrubtly arrested in the morning of 6/21 and sent to the Vancouver International airport. At the edge of being deported, he then was dramtically transferred to detain center. A deal was postponed for some reason, I thought.

In message "69. Juror summon (6/16) " and "71. Police violence", I talked about I was summoned for jury service. The duty time was between 6/17 to 6/21. I alleged they arranged a police violence for me in that week. I also alleged they would frame up a drug case(with the help of Chinese police) to my family members because they knew my story and could be witness. 6/21 was Friday, the day they preferred to make arrest because there would be two extra days for them to do 'suicider job' inside jail. 6/21 must be the last day of their plan, Lai's arrest and depotation should have been in plan too. Only at last minute they canceled the plan because I didn't go to their trap. Lai, after a scary day of 6/21, still remained as a chip to deal with Chinese police.

All this is my speculation. It could be a coincidence. So I have not talked about it. But there was another event to test it. In early October, "World Journal"(Chinese edition) reported again, "Chinese government sent police officials to Canada, a pre-paraparation for the depotation of Lai Changxin."Do they have another deal, or do they revive the old deal?" I thought. In 10/11, I received a notice from my Homeowners' Association.

95. A notice for a meeting

There is a Homeowners Association in my community. When people bought the house, he automatically became a member of it. There was an annual meeting held in the end of year to elect a board. The board took a property inspection every 3 or 4 months to make sure the community keeping neat and clean. There used to be dozens of homeowners attending the annual meet, asking question about property inspection. After drug case happened, it dropped down to several people, then in another meeting when I found I was the only attender in addition to three board members, I abandoned it too. For years the inspection went on regularly but stopped after drug cases happened The result was this community looked like had been deserted. House looked old, lawn became barren. I thought it was because when my case became a frame case, they moved away residents of this community. The agent don't want them see the truth. And agents use electrical weapons to punish and kill. The ray can penetrate house and hurt neighbors. So it's convenient for them to work if residents were their own people. And new owners of house should be agents who had no intention to take care of house, it's not their property. That's why my community suddenly looked like to be deserted for the rest years in 90's.

In 2001, they suddenly revived property inspection after about 8 years abandon. At a time they decided to frame big case to end this ten years' nightmare. And I think they intend to make a good price for houses they occupied if the community looked beautiful. In April 2002, I received a letter from board manager, it's a second notice to request the garage and house trim to be re-painted. I painted my garage and house trim in early June. Then in August, I received a third notice for same request. I was surprised. My neighbor's house A and B were still in old shape with old paint. A's garage connects with mine. There is an obvious different look with new paint and old one. Nobody will make a mistake. There is address number board on the wall of garage and on my front door. If inspector can see the color of paint, they see the address board too.

I called several times to the manager, only found an answering machine there. I had left message. There was no respose. So I wrote a certified letter to complain. Too, there is no response.

The new notice of 10/11 repeated the same accusation and said if the request items not repaired before 10/29, "YOU WILL BE FINED." It also said there will be a special meeting held on 10/29 evening for those had third time notice for explaining why they couldn't fix it. It's obvious they try to force me to go out for a meeting by consistent wrong accusation. The tactic is similar to June's Jury Summon trap.

Why choose 10/29? That's the day my parents will leave for China. And several days later another brother in law of mine will finish his one month vacation in China going back to US. Drug case is easy to be framed in airport. If the plan goes through, then Lai Cheongxin will be deported at that time. Secret police of ecach country will get what they want. (Lai's future may be different after this message published. They always made a swift response to my message. see "47. Swift response")

Re: The letter to manager of Association

"October 17, 2002

F, Association Manager
*** Management Corporation
************
San Mateo. CA 94404

Dear F,

I received your notice of October 10, 2002. In which you repeated accusation of maintenance failure: "Gutters/downspouts on garage(3), trim on house and garage-need repaint(3)." The accusation is unfounded, they were all re-painted about four months ago.

Since I couldn't reach you by phone call, I have written you a certified letter to reply your last notice of Aug. 15. I should like to know why I haven't got any reply from you and why you repeated the wrong inspection material. I'd also like to know 1. who did that inspection and how they reached that result. The telephone and mailing address for connection. 2. The name and telephone and address of Board directors, I have a complaint. I've made call to you four times, in different time, all answered by tape. So I request an explanation in writing.

Sincerely

Kat Hak Sung"

The certified mail number of first letter: 7002 1000 0004 5742 3784

Darkrenown

10-20-2002, 01:37 AM

Well, Kathaksung, you've played right into our hands. I must say I was rather doubtful when the FBI asked me to stake out gaming forums under the cover of being a fan but its all paid off now. Not only have you confrimed our suspicions, you've confessed to crimes we were unaware of and convinced everyone here you're crazy, they'll even think Im just making fun of you. We'll have someone post here under you're name for a while so they dont suspect the truth.

Since there no way for you to escape and I no longer need mantain cover I'll tell you an agent will pick you up within the next few days or our pre-deloyed antipersonel microwave projecters will be turn up to full power depending on the decision of my superior after I submit my report.

Goodbye.

DIH49

10-20-2002, 01:54 AM

wow. i finally get around to looking in this thread, and i see the guy we've been going after for years! renown, dispatch the helicopters! we're coming....

Nelo Angelo

10-20-2002, 04:16 PM

http://www.cigvejy.com/ccom129.gif

AR81

10-21-2002, 12:28 PM

I guess that comic will fit better in the "Kathaksungology" thread.
I call Kat's rant as urban/political legends.
Very imaginative.
I would be that imaginative if only I was more paranoid.
I only can come up with the martians of Orson Wells and the spy plot of Total Recall.

Devastator03

10-21-2002, 02:15 PM

Well, I just read the first 60% of this thread.

kath: If you think you are being targeted by someone with something, FIND OUT HOW IT WORKS. And not from one person, or one source. Flourescent lights? Microwaves? They are reasonably safe (in the case of flourescent lights, completely safe). If you don't believe me, FIND OUT HOW THEY WORK, and tell us how they are unsafe. Radioactive material. Instead of buying lead aprons and such, get a geiger counter. It will read a small amount everywhere, and shouldn't change much. Then look up what a harmful dose is and compare it to the reading. The one that I found most outlandish was the one where you got a cough in a humid climate, that went away when you are inside.

First, radiation doesn't cause coughs. Vomiting is a more belevable symptom, but vomiting in itself does not indicate radiation exposure. I won't say the other symptoms here, because you will make them up. They are nasty, and not subtle in the slightest.

You can have a cold in any climate. Period. Colds are caused by viruses, not the temperature.

Second, when you have a cold, the coughing is caused by fluid. Depending on what position you are in, the amound of coughing changes. eg, sitting, lying down, and such.

Then the time that you claimed that when someone replied to a post that you deleted and reposted later, that he was an agent and knew what you were going to post.

Okay, what's wrong here? If you actually don't remember posting it earlier and deleting it, I am very worried, but I can still argue that you must have, on the basis that he had no way of knowing which message you were going to post next. If he did have a way of knowing, can you tell us what it was? If you can't, then you must have deleted and reposted it.

#94. Show me the article.

Finally, your various problems with the internet. To thoroughly rebutt them I need your system specifications, method of connection, ISP, etc, but I can make arguments that go beyond reasonable doubt in explaining why you are having trouble posting from time to time. (and to tell you, you've been having fewer problems then I do.)

First up, #91.

Lets see here, your messages were succesfully posted, with the correct post time. I'm not getting where you had any problem. Also, you made a complaint, and according to you it wasn't ignored. What is going on here that is even the least bit suspicious?

Second, it seems that you get banned for breaking the listed rules. Read them after you get a thread deleted or get banned. Better yet, read them before posting.

The other time when you got all 404 errors, I am amazed that that is the first time you've ever had your connection down for a bit. You know someone else who had no problem connecting when your connection was down. Why is that suprising? The entire internet does not go through one pipe. Your connection was down for the moment. Theirs wasn't. It happens all the time. I've had mine fail to work a lot recently.

Do you use a windows operating system? If you do, then error screens and popups are very common. Comes with the territory.

I want to see your information that you are basing your decisions on. But you will probably take that as me wanting to shut down those sources, as an *agent* or something.

Personally, I think that you started getting suspicious, then got some insufficent information, then started acting on that information. After that, it's a quick leap to paranoia.

In conclusion, I think that you should tally up the costs of all these actions supposedly being taken against you. Then ask yourself, "What do they stand to gain from this by eliminating me?" Here is a hint, the answer to the second one is much, much smaller than the first.

This will be the last time I will try to be this civil unless you are willing to admit that at least some of these theories are implausible. If you aren't I'll just read this thread for fun. :D

Dreadnaught

10-21-2002, 04:20 PM

Devastator03- silly goose, injecting reason into his arguments won't help. :D

Devastator03

10-21-2002, 05:47 PM

yeah, well, now I don't feel guilty about enjoying the thread.

AR81

10-22-2002, 10:25 AM

This thread is a classic.
That’s where the whole plot about TIMEX, TEMP, STAR timeline agencies against the evil martians were born, inspired by the Quixotic imagination of Kat.

kathaksung

11-01-2002, 07:21 PM

96. Follow up (11/1)

In 10/28, I asked my wife to come back home early next day to attend the meeting. I said firmly I wouldn't go because I thought it was another trap. In 10/29, one hour before the meeting time, a lady came to my house said she was the board member. She later apologized for the wrong accusation.

They could do whatever to reach their goal, set up trap, lying, harass, frame. When it was revealed, "my mistake", "error" are the convenient words for it. But if victims follow their "error", the victims will lose their lives and property.

Follow up (2) of Judi Bary's case in "60. Plant, Frame and alleged murder ".

I posted Judi Bary's story on 3/25/2002. Several days later, I was surprised to read the news that her case was going to trial on 4/8/2002. Judi brought the case to the court in 1991. It was delayed again and again. Judi herself couldn't see the trial. She died of breast cancer in 1997 which I alleged a radiation murder. On 6/11/2002, the jury found FBI and Okland police lied in the case and violated victim's Constitution right of 1st Amendment and 4th Amendment. Judge ruled a 4.4 million compensation. The late justice came after 11 years dragging. I thought it was a swift response to my message. They try to clean up the odds. Anyway, it's a small case for them.

I'm surprised at their influence on judicial system. They could dragging a case as long as 11 years(could have been longer). And then finish it in less than three months.

Follow up(3) of John Gotti's cancer in "58. Manipulating media and killing by radiation"

On 10/30, 2000, San Jose Mercury News (CA)

Quote, "EX-MOB BOSS GOTTI REPORTEDLY DYING OF CANCER

John Gotti, the alleged head of the Gambino crime family who is serving a life prison term for murder, has neck and mouth cancer, and doctors give him less than a year to live, .... .

Doctors consulted by Gotti's family believe the cancer can be traced to neglect of his dental implants during his...."

On 3/**, 2002, I posted a message alleged his cancer to radioactive dental implant.

On 6/11/2002, S.J.M.N. reported his death.

quote, "Ex-crime-family boss Gotti dies of cancer

..... The cause was cancer. In 1998, he was operated on in a prison hospital for neck and head cancer."

My message alleged a radioactive polluted dental which caused cancer was first posted on March, 2002. When doctor said the cancer can be traced to dental implant, they must base on fact the cancer area was around the dental implant. Neck cancer should be because the location of neck was near that dental implant. Gotti could survive longer then doctor's predication of "less than a year to live, .... . ", possibly by moving away the dental implant when it was found caused problem.

Now what you can get from the death report? They demolished everything which might connect to dental implant, even not mentioned mouth cancer. What is the purpose? Most ridiculous is they invented a "head cancer". I'm so innocent to hear it for the first time.

I think after I posted message about Gotti, they hurried to produce a "head cancer" to cover the 'dental implant' and 'mouth cancer'. The usual way, I guess, is to contaminate the pillow with radioactive material to cause brain cancer and skin cancer... (breast cancer if used on bra). If what I said is true, I'm sorry for Gotti. Though he is a mob, he got the punishment from law already. The method they used on him was too cruel and inhuman.

Follow up(4) to dog mauling case of "62. Plot", " 63. A well planed frame case"

On 3/21/2002, Marjorie Knoller was convicted of second degree murder in fatal dog mauling and faced 15 years to life sentence. It was the first time in California such case was convicted. Newspaper cheered for the conviction, saying it was public's opinion.

I thought in different way. In mid April, I posted my opinion, alleged it was a well conducted frame case.

On 6/17, a judge overturned the conviction, ruled it an involuntary manslaughter. Both owners of the dog were sentenced 4 years for the case in July. Newspaper said it was a stunning twist in one of state's most unusual cases. I don't know if my revelation played something in it. But it is one of the most unusual cases anyhow. I believe Wipple's death was unnecessary. She was a victim of a plot, so be owners of the dog.

Follow up(5) to Carnaham's death of "31. Extortion"

Senator Wellstone's death. There was a similar event like his death. An airplane accident happened 2 years ago when Ashcroft competed with Carnaham for the Senator of Missori. Carnaham and Wellstone both died at an election which the number of Senators of both parties are in subtle balance. Any loss will lead to the control of the house to the opposite. And I think it was also because Paul Wellstone voted "no" on resolution of war power of Iraq. The group inside government determine to carry on the war with Iraq.

Master[\/]][[\][)

11-01-2002, 07:54 PM

At least all of this seems to be improving his english skills ;)

I wonder if this is the longest any of his conspiracy threads have lasted, he claims all of the others get deleted or shut down...

ffunyman

11-06-2002, 08:41 PM

have you ever read anything by Al Bieleck?

Devastator03

11-06-2002, 10:57 PM

Just so you know... the legal system isn't known for speedy trials.

Cancer is the second leading cause of death.. Do you think that fully one third of americans are killed by cancer, and they are all caused by the government?

John Gotti... so his dental implant caused cancer? There is no evidence... do you believe that the lack of evidence was because it wasn't what happened, or do you believe that it was destroyed? If so, do you believe that ANYTHING for which there is no evidence, must be true?

Do you drink water? Do you eat food? Do you live in the same place from day to day? If the answer to any of these questions is yes, then any one person, sufficiently determined, could kill you. Yet nobody has, as obviously you are still alive. That means at least one of two things is true.

1. Nobody is trying to kill you.
2. There is nobody in the entire government who would kill anyone.

Either way, you are safe.
Besides, what could you do if the government was actually after you? Lock yourself in your house and cower in fear? That would mean that the government has kept you from expressing your thoughts. Keep the presence of mind to know when you need to stand up for yourself, and live your life.

So sit back and relax. Nothing will happen.

One more question, are you a regular coffee drinker?

Devastator03

11-06-2002, 11:42 PM

Oh, and before anyone asks, I find posting like that to be enjoyable.

Master[\/]][[\][)

11-07-2002, 12:39 AM

Don't rip apart his psychotic ramblings, he might stop posting them.

kathaksung

11-15-2002, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by Devastator03

John Gotti... so his dental implant caused cancer? There is no evidence...

Quote, "Doctors consulted by Gotti's family believe the cancer can be traced to neglect of his dental implants during his...."

kathaksung

11-15-2002, 08:21 PM

97. Internet attack (11/13)

There are three big attempts of frame-up cases on me. The first one was in early June, 2001 which using 6/11(McVeigh's excution) as a diversion of public's attention. Next one was in 5/3/2002. The latest one is 10/29/2002 which might using 11/5 Mid-term election to divert the public's attention.

Similar to the previous attempts, the latest one came with internet attack too. Two web sites announced a sudden shut down without pre-notice like Fox news. They were Times(people's.com) and LAtimes.com. My message were deleted or moved away from "Forums.about.com/cs-politics". In several web sites, someone used a similar name to harass. (In June 2001 attack, they used an identical name to defame, see "15. Using identical name to defame" in "Why DEA,FBI involved in secret deal of spy plane") Which led readers thought I as a psycho.

"void Posting to Psycho Troll KATHUKSANG
From: The Anti ALLAH!!!! <http://www.delphiforums.com/plus.htmOct-27

Avoid any contact with the Patheticaly addled PSYCHO troll known on the net as KATHUKSANG,.."

In another site(kerrang.com), that "kathuksang" directly posted in my thread to harass for the same purposes.

The most serious offense took place in http://www.wmi.org/multi_boards/politics/index.html

"Tony H. (65.64.79.57) <mailto:.> from OKLAHOMA
Kat Hat Sung is a REAL person. He is 55 years old and resides in San Jose California, telephone # 408-***-****. He really does BELIEVE all the weird stuff he puts out !!! Won't give the address but the FBI does keep close tabs on him !!!!

Tony H. (65.64.79.57) <mailto:.> from OKLAHOMA says Oops Sorry
In doing a little research he was indicted in absentia some years back for Heroin smuggling on the West Coast....."

He posted my real phone number there, defamed me as a indicted drug smuggler. I protested to host, these messages were removed. His "absentia" verdict remind me of another two "absentia" verdict which took place in June 2001 attack.

Re: "The death of Kat Hak Sung <http://brumley.com/boards/politicsmessages/227.html> - FBI - 6/07/2001

Kat Hak Sung!
You have been sentenced to DEATH in absentia!
Surrender, soon, or we will KILL you!
Turn yourself in, and serve your DEATH sentence!
The DEATH of Kat Hak Sung is near! "

Another one is more clear. Notice 3*24 hours from the posting date is 6/11/2001, McVeigh's execution date. http://forum.asiaco.com/1937-truth

Author:FBI <mailto:FBI@hotmail.com> (66.44.60.9)
Subject:Your Time Is UP, Kat Hak Sung !Sat, Jun 9 2001 at 8:25 am[
Email Msg </cgi-bin/forum/forum.cgi?c=emailmsgform&fid=1937-truth&mid=27> | Invite </cgi-bin/forum/forum.cgi?c=inviteform&fid=1937-truth>
]Message:Kat Hak Sung! Your time is up! We are giving you 3x24 hours to surrender. Turn yourself in to the local authority where you are residing now. You have been sentenced to DEATH in absentia. ..... Within 3x24 hours you should surrender and turn yourself in, to serve your death sentence under the gallows. The state of California has restored this kind of death sentence just for you. ....

These ruthless comments reflect how confident they were to their plan. If these plan worked out, a dead man could never protest and reveal all these flaws. They execute private punishment, they have their own private court, they extort and murder politicians even President. They think they are god.

98. A typical story of censorship attempt

This is what happened in late October in http://www.rumandmonkey.com . Which may suggested they really told people I was indicted in absentia in drug case.
The story showed how a moderator changed his attitude, using a convenient reason trying to fulfil a mission. Ben is a moderator, he thought my thread was a serious issue to debate, he foresaw the trouble of harassment and give a pre-warning. I did meet the trouble of harassment he foreseen. Then on Oct. 25 he changed his attitude......

Ben Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2002 2:17 am

I've moved this to Serious Debate. I can also read the future, so I'm reminding everyone right now that personal attacks aren't tolerated here, and repeated personal attacks, even in Personal Messages, will result in a banning.

Ben Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:29 am

I've sent him a Private Message; however, Kathaksung, I'd now ask that you participate in the discussion rather than just posting messages to the board. This is a discussion forum, and you must further conversation to conform to the terms and conditions. If you don't, I will be forced to ask you to leave.

kathaksung, Nov 6

If there is rational question, I'd like to discuss with them like I've done before. But how can I discuss with the message such like, "well, sorry, but this thread smells like ****, looks like ****, theres hoof prints walking away from it, and i hear mooing in the distance."? Or message implied that I have mental problem? It seems there are two different standards and some personal attack were neglected. That's the issue I like to discuss with you.

(I than posted a story and asked Ben if he was forced by government)

Ben
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 12:40 am

To be more specific, I'm more likely to be being watched by the government than any of you. :) Unless some of you are actual criminals or something.

kathaksung Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 8:21 pm

That's true. When they need to censor speech they were uneasy for, the first one they looked for is moderator or administrator. Those who under the pressure had to find some excuse to do the order. Of course, to legalize their demand, they used to give some reason, mostly defame the victim as criminal or something. But if you have an independent mind, the same question will be up: Why they are so scare of the messages "unless they are actual criminals or something".

99. They are scare of my messages

In Sept. 2000, I started my thread to reveal the dark side of Federal law enforcement agency. Then found they managed several times to murder me. In each attempt of murder there always came with internet attack. Most obvious was after the failure of the first frame-up case in June, 2001. Next month in July, Ashcroft came to Bay area where I live announced a national cyber monitor programme. He created 9 teams to monitor the whole country which I alleged involved in harassment and censorship in internet. At the same time I got a message in NYtimes.com which may help you understand how they view my messages.

Quote, "Coyote954 01:45am Jul 12, 2001 EST

Kathaksung, I have an idea for you. Have you ever heard of a guy named Dick Marcinko? Well, he was a Navy SEAL, ....One day, he wrote a book about his experiences in the Navy SEALs, ....

The problem is, he told a lot of Navy secrets. They harassed him, ...-- but, he could write whatever he wanted as long as it was fiction!

So now he writes books about the Navy, and the SEALs, .....except that now he just says it is all fiction. .....

So... I tell you, your experience with these government operatives would be a great story, and if you just pretend that it is "fiction" everyone will know better and the gov't can't do anything to you. .....And, hey, as the guy that gave you the idea, I want 5%. "

kathaksung 04:54pm Jul 13, 2001 EST

coyote954,
Thanks for your suggestion. I have never sworn to FBI or DEA to keep their secret, so I have no obligation. What I put here are my personal experience, they are facts not fiction. If they want to send me to the court, I'd like to. What I need is not money, I need justice. Sorry you can't get your 5% but thanks anyway for your suggestion.

Kat Hak Sung