The dark side of USA

[kathaksung]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught


Well that's funny, because I work right across the street from Newsweek and it sure doesn't look like a government operation.


[/B]

Stupid logic. You don't stick a lable of "Deep throat" on your head, do you?

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316. Set up a "marijuana" case (6/2/05)

In early May, a news in mainstream media caught my eye.

Re: "Feds sound new warning about marijuana use
5/3/2005, 4:06 p.m. ET By PAULINE JELINEK The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -

Government officials say recent research makes a stronger case that smoking marijuana is itself a causal agent in psychiatric symptoms, particularly schizophrenia."

http://www.masslive.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/national-43/1115150260197830.xml&storylist=national

"Marijuana Becomes Focus of Drug War
Less Emphasis on Heroin and Cocaine
By Dan EggenWashington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 4, 2005; Page A01

The focus of the drug war in the United States has shifted significantly over the past decade from hard drugs to marijuana, which now accounts for nearly half of all drug arrests nationwide, according to an analysis of federal crime statistics released yesterday."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/03/AR2005050301638.html?nav=mb

Pre-psychological propaganda preparation is a must in Feds' framed case. I thought this propaganda would set another case on me. Since I started this thread to reveal crime Feds committed, I suffered personal attack: malicious ridicules, intimidation; scorn; smear...... Recently I was repeatedly labeled "schizophrenic" in some web sites which coincides with the "marijuana" report. I think they came from same source. Link it with another notice from Homeowners' Association, (see "312. Things sensitive") I thought there is a new frame case set up right after the April plot going soured.

The Homeowner's Association required me to trim overgrown trees before 5/19. I think Feds planned to find some "trace of marijuana" in yard trash and with it as justification, having a search. It is easy to plant marijuana in my backyard. There are indications that Feds set up such a case. I'll talk about it next time.

317. Deep Throat and pre-psychological propaganda (6/2/05)

Former FBI agent Mark Felt said he is the "Deep Throat". It proves my allegation was very correct that intelligence(FBI) was behind Watergate scandal. In the message I wrote three months ago about Nixon's resignation, I concluded that : Israel controls D.O.J.. D.O.J. controls FBI. And FBI keep Americans under surveillance, include Presidents. (see "295. Who controls D.O.J.? (3/7/05)")

FBI now comes to the front stage to show that they can manipulate politicians. All this kind of news has a purpose, what is it this time?

Is Rumsfeld and his D.O.D. the next target? Or Bush extorted to start a war with Syria or Iran? Or intimidate lawmakers to push through a "privatization Social Security Act", like what they did for the "Patriot Act" by anthrax letters?

This is the start of a drama.

318. Rain, Homeowners' Association and marijuana (6/7/05)

On 3/15, Homeowners' Association (H.A.) gave me a notice, instructed me to fix garage door before 4/17 or face a fine. I thought that's the plot of Feds. They intended to guise as garage door contractor to have an unreasonable search and arrest. I fixed the garage door by myself. Then on 4/19, another notice from H.A. required me to trim the tree. They set the final day on 5/19. So I knew there would be another case framed around that date. But what kind of case would they frame this time?

I noticed there was an unusual wet days in this period. On 4/27, Mercury News reported: "April showers, thunder, hail in forecast". "This year's rainy season just won't let up. While the classic ending comes mid-April. .... San Jose hasn't seen a season this wet since 1997-98."

On 5/10, it said, "Unusual storm sets a record for May 9 rainfall.". "Is it supposed to rain in May? San Jose usually sees some rain in May, though rarely very much." It posted two pictures to illustrate how the thunderstorm and hailstones formed. And a chart of May rainfall in 55 years. It only made the thing extraordinary unusual. It followed the way of cover up Feds always used. In meningitis case and San Jose Mayor Gonzalez's stroke case, the news report came with chart of brain to illustrate how disease happened. In the cases plotted by Feds they used to post extra picture to persuade people that all were taken place naturally. That's part of psychological influence.

Because Feds used rainy days to control frame case, (I allege they plant drugs in umbrella shipment which is a merchandise my brother in law running) so I set an eye on it if something unusual happened. Though news said that classical rainy season ended in mid-April, I recorded an unusual wet month after that. Between 4/19 to 5/19, the one month time H.A.requested me to trim the tree, there were 14 days fore-casted rainy day. The last day fore casted rainy was 5/19, coincided with H.A.'s final day. Since then there was no more rain. Is that wonderful? I can only say, Feds planned their project too perfect.

One thing puzzled me was that why they dragged the rain days that long. In early May the news on marijuana solved my problem.(see #316) With other indications, I realized Feds might have planted marijuana in my yard. With continued rain, they wish the marijuana seeds would sprout and grow up. They force me to trim tree by H.A. to prove I did the yard work. And they might claim they found trace of marijuana in yard trash (leaves and branches) to start a search and arrest.

Than why the case soured? I guess there were too many weeds in the yard that marijuana couldn't compete with them. Or the soil was too barren for it. Only weeds survived in poor soil.

Four days ago on 6/3 H.A. gave me another letter. They still used "overgrown tree" need trim as justification even I had trimmed the tree already. The final date set at 7/1. Feds apparently is under pressure and has to repeat trick again and again. They didn't have any inspection for more than two years. And suddenly waked up to send me three notices within 4 months.

[Spawnie]

Im sure its been asked before, but why dont you take a load of the stuff you have posted online (im sure you have it backed up a few times, right?) and make a book out of it?

You might make enough cash to livevery easily. Maybe if they are very sucessful books, you could create a place safe from any sort of interference, with the money to pay off the fed and the police.

hm?

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by kathaksung
Stupid logic. You don't stick a lable of "Deep throat" on your head, do you?

Stupid sentence :weird: This makes no sense :confused:

But seriously, last Monday I went across the street into the Newsweek building to ask if they are a government operation. The guy brought some employees downstairs and we talked about it and had a good laugh. Eventually, one of them said "Wait, did that Kat Hak Sung talk about this? Oh, we know about him, we're going to write an article about him soon."

See, they're nice guys!

[sevensmom]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught
Stupid sentence :weird: This makes no sense :confused:

But seriously, last Monday I went across the street into the Newsweek building to ask if they are a government operation. The guy brought some employees downstairs and we talked about it and had a good laugh. Eventually, one of them said "Wait, did that Kat Hak Sung talk about this? Oh, we know about him, we're going to write an article about him soon."

See, they're nice guys!
:up: :haha:

[[T]Baxter]

Originally posted by kathaksung
Stupid logic. You don't stick a lable of "Deep throat" on your head, do you?
No I saw that label on your sister. So guess what she did for me???

:weird: :weird: :weird:

[kathaksung]

Originally posted by Spawnie
Im sure its been asked before, but why dont you take a load of the stuff you have posted online (im sure you have it backed up a few times, right?) and make a book out of it?

You might make enough cash to livevery easily. Maybe if they are very sucessful books, you could create a place safe from any sort of interference, with the money to pay off the fed and the police.

hm?

I've talked about this issue before. Go back to read message #99.

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319. Sobbing dog (6/12/05)

A decade ago, I was charged by a dog several times. The dog rushed to me, looked like intending to bite my hand. I had to raise the hand high to avoid to be bit.

Later I thought the dog did not intend to attack. It was a dog trained to sniff the hand to see if it contaminated with drug. The dog looked ugly: crazy, thin, dirty, most of hair were off with pink skin exposed in the air. I was angry. Those agents abused the dog, harassed innocent people, carrying out such operation as their job. That dog obviously was heavy addicted, wouldn't live long.

In April and May this year, there were many rainy days. In mid-night, I often heard a dog whimpering. Until in early May when I have read the news of Marijuana (see #316), I then knew Feds framed the case a marijuana one. It solved my puzzle of unusual wet days and the sobbing dog. I think it was another dog trained to sniff the sprouting marijuana. The whimper of the dog reminded me of that heavy addicted dog Feds sent on me ten years ago.

320. Create a schizophrenia case (6/12/05)

I have a thread "How Feds murder people" in a web site Totse. I used to post follow up every ten days. In 5/5, I posted the follow up, saw the thread was lifted to the top of list, which meant new message was posted, I then left. On 5/16, when I came back, I didn't find the message I had posted last time.( As you see, they came with a serial number.) I thought I might have missed it last time, so I re-posted the missing message again. This time I noticed that though the thread was lifted to the top, there was no show of new posted message. I didn't know what happened and had to start a new thread "Strange thing".

On 6/5, I found the old thread was on top of the list. I clicked on it and found the latest messages I posted which once I couldn't see now were in display. Which put me in a very reluctant situation. Same messages repeatedly posted. There was also my complaint of "no show".

I have talked about that my computer was controlled by another server of Feds. I think they intercept the information of Internet and sent me the old image. Other people can see the whole one while I could only see the part of it. Other people would think I was insane when I made double post and complained of "no show" while they could see it. This is how Feds created a "schizophrenia" case.

Next time, when Feds show you marijuana (or drugs) found in the yard, it may be truth. Only the marijuana (or drugs) was planted by themselves. If they show you the fact that someone complained of "no show:" while you could see it, they might show you the true phenomenon. Only that fact was created by a technique trick.

Recently some of my serial thread in other web sites missed part of messages. Obviously at the purpose to create more "double post", or "illusive complaint". So much for the credit of FBI and DEA.

Now you will understand why on 5/3, news said, "Government officials say recent research makes a stronger case that smoking marijuana is itself a causal agent in psychiatric symptoms, particularly schizophrenia.". All this took place in the month (4/19 to 5/19) requested by letter of Homeowners' Association.

See that "schizophrenia post" at: "How Feds murder people" and "Strange thing"

http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum8/HTML/000779-11.html

321. Tsunami alert in California (6/15/05)

The brief tsunami alert on 6/14 in Northern California may be a psychological propaganda prepared for a big one in future which is operated by US intelligence.

I allege D.O.J. intends to frame a big drug case in which they'll slaughter a lot of people. To distract public's attention, big events will possibly be created.

1. Big earthquake in California or a eruption of volcano to divert people's attention.

2. Bio-attack such like Mad-cow disease, West Niles or bird flu to kill people they disliked in the name of natural disease.

3. Terror attack, most likely a dirty bomb, disguised as the revenge from Muslim.

4. The framed drug case was collaborated with Chinese secret police. There will be a regime change in Taiwan as payment for the secret deal.

5. Since the deal betrayed Taiwan's independence. It conflicts with the opinion of eagle in Washington (Rumsfeld, Bush). Then there is the emergence of "Deep throat". All the recent news that "Galloway's speech"; "Downing St. Memo": "Bush's sinking approve rate"; "Kerry works to impeach Bush"'; "Guantanamo scandal" are intimidations from D.O.J.. If the eagle in Washington dare to obstruct, then they may be impeached by a scandal from another Deep Throat.

6. The date of that big operation can be as early as in late June.

322. Manipulate weather and media (6/17/05)

Why did I think Feds would have another big plan in late June? Because I received another notice of "overgrown tree" from H.A on 6/3. H.A. (Homeowners' Association) set the last date on 7/1.

I think this date was picked up to go along with the date of 6/30. On that day, Federal Reserve will have another meeting and probably to raise the interest rate further. So far D.O.J. has successfully keep the housing market in booming, but that work becomes harder and harder with the rising interest rate.

Feds made the month of 4/19 to 5/19 an unusual wet month. After 5/19, it came back to usual dry season. According to Mercury News, June is "bone-dried season". But Feds could make it rainy if their plan need one (6/3 to 7/1). On 6/9 (Thursday) and 6/16, 6/17 (Thursday, Friday), there were rains. Why made it rain on Thursday and Friday? Because Friday is the garbage collecting day for my street. All yard trash has to be piled on Thursday in Street. And a rain that day could hasten the sprouting of marijuana for the arrest.

I also noticed there was a change in weather forecast of Mercury News. On 6/4 it forecast the rain on 6/9. But in the following days the umbrella logo for 6/9 was replaced by a cloudy sun. Same trick repeated in 6/12 for the forecast of 6/16. Obviously, when I said I got Feds' intention by observation of weather forecast, they made it an uncertain one. I turned on to TV, the three days forecast showed all rainy cloud while Mercury News gave a cloudy sun.

On 6/15, there was an article in the news "Cloudy view of the value of forecasts" which said "Despite all the fancy computers, satellites and Doppler radar, most people have limited faith that meteorologists can accurately forecast the weather......" It was written to justify the misleading weather forecast of Mercury News.

Feds manipulate public's mind through media. But with a perspective view, people still can find truth.

[Minx]

You have to clear your cache.

[PhoenixHunter]

I'm not so sure that providing a place for someone to spew their unending paranoia is a healthy exercise in free speech....but that's my opinion.

[mahiro shukosa]

Free speech is not even at issue here. The First Amendment only applies to government.

As a private company, Atari is not bound by the First Amendment.

[kathaksung]

323. Arnold's role in recent plots (6/22/05)

H.A. gave me three notices recently:
1. 3/14 to 4/17 (garage door)
2. 4/19 to 5/19 (overgrown tree)
3. 6/1 to 7/1 (overgrown tree)
I view it as three consecutive plots planned by Feds. As I have told before, the framed case was collaborated by Chinese secret police. To confirm the secret deal, each time Feds had a celebrity to be in China as a guarantor. (see "222. Perform a secret deal (4/19/04)", "239. Free factory (7/9)" ).

Arnold Schwarzenegger was sent to the chair of California Governor in a rare recall in November 2003. The recall was activated in March 2003, only 4 months after a formal election when Gray Davis was re-elected as Governor. Nobody could start such kind of raid except Feds. When there would be a 9/11 attack, they placed a proxy of their own in the seat of President despite Demo (Clinton) did a good job in his two tenure. The purpose was clear, Feds need the man in charge to cover up illegal activity they committed. Arnold was picked up in same situation. The main reason to select him, I think, is to cover up the illegal case Feds planned to frame. I set an eye on his behavior.

Arnold Schwarzenegger planned a China visit recently. At first, his visit was planned between 4/16 to 4/23. It was delayed. Next time it was said the visit would be sometime in May. It also soured. Probably to my revelation that his advance team brought a bribe for China. (see: "303. April plot and secret deal (4/12/05)") Compare Governor's visit plan with the time of first two notices sent to me from H.A.

Then there was a news on June 7. Topic: "Leader of state National Guard is forced out".
"The two-star general who commands California's 20,000 National Guard soldiers abruptly resigned late Monday amid allegations that he failed to properly prove his shooting skills for a trip to Iraq and that he helped line up a questionable military flight for a Republican group.

Thomas Eres was pressured to step aside after parallel investigations by the Schwarzenegger administration and Mercury News...... Eres' resignation came just two days after Gov. Schwarzenegger thanked the general "for the great job you're doing".... . And it comes 15 months after the Republican governor appointed Eres by voicing confidence that the general would "maintain the high standards and traditions" of the National Guard."

The accusation put on the General was convenient and unnecessary. The real purpose was that someone wanted to control National Guard. I immediately thought of that there would be an emergency taking place in future, either a terror attck or a big disaster or both that National Guard would be activated to support Feds. It coincided with the third notice from H.A..

Seven days later, there was a tsunami alert issued. I wrote the message "321. Tsunami alert in California".

As for the role of National Guard, they will support law enforcement in emergency. The following is one of the references I had used to prove Bush group knew 9/11 attack in advance.

Re: UPDATE, September 21, 2001 - On Friday, September 7, Florida Governor "Jeb" Bush signed Executive Order No. 01-261 which states, in part:

"I hereby delegate to The Adjutant General of the State of Florida all necessary authority, within approved budgetary appropriations or grants, to order members of the Florida National Guard into active service, as defined by Section 250.27, Florida Statutes, for the purpose of training to support law-enforcement personnel and emergency-management personnel in the event of civil disturbances or natural disasters and to provide training support to law-enforcement personnel and community-based organizations relating to counter drug operations. This Executive Order shall remain in full force and effect until the earlier of its revocation or June 30, 2003."

This took place four days before the World Trade Center disaster.

http://209.123.142.199/lawgiver/flaconst.asp

The above URL was where I got the information. Although it was disabled, I still post it.

324. Tsunami (6/27/05)

As I have told in #261, 262, 302, 305 that Anthony Carr's Big Prophecy for 2004 was a proclamation of Inside group being used to influence the psychology of Americans. In the newspaper, there were seven big prophecies, five with pictures which I have talked about already. There were two without picture.

1. Meteorite hits US. A super size meteorite will hit a desert city of America.

2. Big lake area will become a water country. Storm will sweep over the boundary of US and Canada. There will be a great flooding in Big Lake area. Few boat will survive it as Noah's Ark. Besides, nuclear exploision will cause tsunami in Cuba. Half of Cuba will be drawned.

I realized big attack would be disguised as natural disaster such like earthquake and tsunami. In the end of that year, a big tsunami in South Asio caused a loss of 180,000 lives.

I think that's the one predicted by Anthony Carr. It didn't take place in Cuba because that would be too evident who was behind it.

1. US has developped such technique to create an earthquake and tsunami. Cohen had talked about it as early as 1997, though he blamed the "others". Re: "Others are engaging even in an eco type of terrorism, whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes or volcanos remotely, through the use of electromagnetic waves." American Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, April 1997.

http://vialls.net/subliminalsuggestion/tsunami.html

2. After 9/11, D.O.D. got a fat budget with which they were able to carry out experiment of new techniques. I allege the four consecutive huricane happened in Florida last year was one of such experiment of climate war.

3. Why Indonesia was picked? Because it is still a backward country. Indonesia is a technique weak country with no ability to investigate what happened in deep water. And there was no obvious motive that others can allege on US if the desaster taking place there. As a result, they made it an experiment. The tsunami was the biggest ever.

4. Generally, Inside group will have a man of their own in charge the business to cover up their illegal activity. I talked of Bush and Arnold about this. They have one there - the President of Indonesia: Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. He was an military intelligence officer. He has attended various training courses in the U.S. and the Command and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth, Kan. He took the President's seat in October 2004. Two months later, on 12/26, tsunami took place.

5. Yudhoyono benefitted from tsunami politically. The earthquak took place in West Indonesia. Aceh Province is the nearest area to earthquake center. People there suffered the heaviest loss. Aceh is a rebellion province where armed force having a war with government. Now it is weakened.

6. Two weeks after the big tsunami, there was a news:

Navy Releases Photos of Damage to Nuclear Submarine
By CHRISTOPHER DREW, The New York Times

The photos were taken once the submarine, the San Francisco, limped back to Guam after smashing into the mountain, which was not on its navigational charts. The photos show that the head-on crash 500 feet below the ocean's surface destroyed a sonar dome that formed the submarine's nose and peeled back part of the outer hull.

The accident, which killed one sailor and injured 60 others, occurred on Jan. 8 about 360 miles southeast of Guam. Navy officials said the submarine's crew had to take emergency measures to blast to the surface and then keep the vessel afloat

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050128103609990019

The experiment of earthquake and tsunami was an operation under the sea. Submarine would be used. There would be many similar experiments. A submarine hit the mountain was a rare news. It must have operated near the bottom of the sea. Japan is located in earthquake area, an ideal experiment place. I don't think it happened accidentally at that time.

7. 'Freak' wave rocks cruise
70-footer hits N.Y.-bound ship
BY JONATHAN LEMIRE

A "freak wave" more than 70 feet high slammed a luxury cruise ship steaming for New York yesterday, flooding cabins, injuring passengers and forcing the liner to stop for emergency repairs.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/300826p-257523c.html

It would be a tsunami if that "freak wave" reached land. I view it as one experiment done by D.O.D. to test how it affected on vessel.

The chance of happening of big tsunami is rare. Maybe once in decades or in centries. What was it in your memory before that South Asio one? Now it seems become popular. And I expect there will be more. That's the result when Pentagon is skilled to create one.

(I used to use a spell check from a web site. Three of such web sites have been disabled since. This is the fourth website I asked help with. And I was blocked to use spell check again. Sorry if there is mis-spelling.)

[DarkWraith]

Here. New message. Now keep the lunacy in this thread, please.

[RandBlade]

For the sake of completion I'll quote your last message here, then you can put the next here too ;)

Do our bombings fit in with your Dark USA theories?


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325. Open intimidation (7/2/05)

In message "321. Tsunami alert in California" I talked about Feds would use natural disaster and bio-attack to slaught and distract in their June plot. I said on 6/15 : "2. Bio-attack such like Mad-cow disease, West Niles or bird flu to kill people they disliked in the name of natural disease."

Ten days later, when their plot seemed to be soured, Feds released a bunch of news in three days which may prove my prediction.

1. 6/25/05, Mercury News: "U.S. to fix 'mad cow' testing" (New York Times) Which reported the second "mad cow" disease in US. It said the case was confirmed in November last year but was blocked to the public for senven months. Why release it now? Because Feds need it in June plot. It proves my allegation.

The first confimed mad cow disease happened in December 2003. It also related to an attempted framed case. see "191. Framming a case in December (12/26)".

2. 6/25/05, Mercury News: "Group says half-million could die from bird flu". "More than a half-million people could die and more than 2.3 million could be hospitalized if a moderately severe strain of pandemic flu virus hits the US, a research group said Friday." This worries me most that D.O.J. intend to have a slaughter to wipe out their dislikes.

3. 6/26/05, Mercury News: "S.J. man's bout with West Nile makes him fight against spread". "As the first and so far only person to contract the deadly West Nile fever in Santa Clara County, del Hierro committed himself to educate people." del Hierro caught West Nile fever last August. The time of publishing this article is not accidental.

4. 6/27/05, Mercury News: "What if a Tsunami hit our coastline?" The first page article talked about the tsunami alert triggered by an earthquake two weeks ago and the potential hazard.

Something rare happenes occured or being alerted in June. It covers all allegation I wrote in mid June. Even the plot soured, Feds still let out the news. It's a power show off and an open intimidation. And the same show will re-act in future.

326. Homeowners' Association (7/7/05)

I think H.A. is a tool Feds used to monitor and persecute people. Especially in my community when Feds settled in most houses with their own people.

On 6/3 I received a second notice from H.A. It said, "The Board of Directors determined that you are in violation of the Association's guidelines as follows: "Overgrown tree by front window. Therefore, you are requested to: trim tree by front window by July 1, 2005, or the Board of Directors will levy a non-compliance assessment of $50.00 per day, not to exceed$1500.00 or 30 days against you."

I had trimmed the tree after the first notice. "Overgrown tree" was a real vague definition. I send an E-mail to the H.A.

"Dear ****,****,****,

Refer to your letter of 6/1/05, I can't catch the meaning of "Overgrown tree by front window". I have made a trim. Please make it more specific how to satisfy you. I am sorry I can't find maintenance requirement about tree anywhere in book. Please send me a guide book if possible or give me a specific instruction as soon as possible.

And I have another question. This is the second notice, and I have trimmed the tree. Only it didn't satisfy you due to your vague request. Why again you intimidate with a daily $50 fine? And why there is only one month given? It used to be given the interval between two inspection. Is this particularly point to me?"

There was a reply E-mail. No specific instruction was given because I think I didn't violate any rule. They arranged a meeting in lane. The manager told me the tree was all right for her. "Maybe a little trim on top to let window open. Police like to see the window in view, you know." She also assured that no fine will be levied until after 4th notice.

That was an excuse. I did have cleared the view of the front window to the rule by cut short of the bush. The window she referred to was on second floor. It seemed that a superman thief had not been in consideration when they made the book so there is no such specification rule about tree they could give. Otherwise they would have referred it already.

The tree was there when I bought the house 20 years ago. It shadowed the house in hot summer with at least three degrees temperature difference. It never caught any problem but suddenly it became a focus. To satisfy "I think..... Maybe....." I had to cut away the center part of that tree. Imagine how ugly it is when a tree was cut open in its center with two ends left. That's the work of Feds.

I did the work on Thursdays. Feds made it rain on thursdays even though June is a bone-dried season. I think I was lucky enough that it didn't cause a sprouting of Marijuana seeds Feds spread there. They now made it big case. On June7, Mercury News reported: "High court rules US pot laws trump states" To frame a case, they even activated their resource in Supreme Court.

This is how D.O.J. rules US. They sent a proxy of their own to the seat of Presidency by rigged election. Then through the President, they send proxy of their own to the seat of Supreme Court. The likely new candidate of Supreme Court judge will be Alberto Gonzales, the Attorney General of D.O.J. an obedient puppet.

[kathaksung]

Originally posted by RandBlade
For the sake of completion I'll quote your last message here, then you can put the next here too ;)



Then there is such a question for you: "Do you realize how absurd the "double posting" rule is? It cost you more time and inconvenience to other people. The purpose is ....."

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327. London bombing (7/12/05)

I think it was the work of D.O.J.

In my case, for many times Feds had tried to carry out terror attacks to control the situation. The evident ones since last year:

#1. In April plot of 2004, on 4/21(?) Robert Mueller announced that Hongkong was the target of Al Qaida. See "223. FBI director said HongKong will be attacked (4/24/04)"

#2. In June plot of 2004, on 5/26 Ashcroft and Mueller announced US would be attacked by Al Qaida this summer. See "232. Terror attack and distraction (6/4/04)".

#3. In July plot of 2004, on 7/8 Tom Ridge said there would be a large scale of Al Qaida attack before November election. See "240. Cover up (7/14)"

#4. On 8/1/04, to intimidate financial group about raising interest rate, Tom Ridge raised alarm code in certain financial area to orange color. Said Al Qaida target this area. See "251. Mortgage rate and September plot (8/29)"

#5. In October plot of 2004, on 9/17 FBI issued an "Anti-Terror 'October Plan'". See "257. Beware of another terror attack (9/29)" and "258. Another attempt to frame a case (10/4)"

#6. In January plot of 2005, FBI said on 1/20 that there was a "Boston dirty bomb" case. See "284. Aggressive FBI (1/24/05)".

One thing interesting was how my revelation changed the warning method of D.O.J. Have you noticed that in #1. and #2. the terror alert was issued by FBI and D.O.J.? Then in #3. and #4. Tom Ridge replaced the role of FBI. Why? If you noticed in #2, I wrote,(quote from 232) "Under the Homeland Security Act of 2002, only the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can publicly issue such threat warnings. What made D.O.J. neglect DHS? "

It was a swift response from Feds. They cover up their flaw by letting Tom Ridge to do the work for them. Ridge was only a puppet in these cases. But Feds felt uncomfortable to let "outsider"(Tom Ridge) to involve in their criminal case. So there after there was no terror alarm anymore. #5 and #6 were only plan and case of FBI.

All the above six "terror attack" cases related to the framed cases applied on me in timing. The plotter is no other but Feds - D.O.J. and FBI. The framed case soured under my revelation. None of the above "terror attacks" was proved true.

Out of these six "terrorist cases", you can see five were accused of "Al Qaida", only #6 was accused of "Iraqi and Chinese". How convenient it is to attribute everything to "Al Qaida". That is why we can never find Bin Laden or Al Zarqawi. They are so important chips in "Extortion war on people" for Bush and inside group.

In recent months, framed case came one after another, the latest one ended on 7/1. What is the next? I wondered.

In early July, London won the host of 2012 Olympic Games. The Olympic Game is a profitable business. It will benefit the economy of hosting country. I had experience that it was used as a chip in secret deal. (China was rewarded 2008 Olympic as a payment in secret deal with FBI and DEA in 2001. See "77. The payment of deal (July 2002)" ) So when I heard this news, I wondered if it was another secret deal? It was.

Next day, London bombing solved my puzzle. London suffered a terror attack(in the name of Al Qaida) but got a compensation in economy.

It also solved my puzzle that a terror attack will be used to distract in next framed case. London bombing will justify the next "terror attack" in US. Pre-psychological propaganda is an important tactic Feds used in their plot. So they always issued an alert to a plot to en-believe the public that it was real from enemy. But the previous "case" were all soured which brought them embarrassment. Such like that their "most wanted" was proved to be in jail already. Or the case was a "hoax". Or the plot was from their own informant. This time they bought a big one: "London bombing". With which, feds silently got what they want: an "orange" code in home security without public notice.

328. London bombing (2) (7/17/05)

London blasts was planned by intelligence.

1. Government knew in advance.

Re: Israeli Embassy in state of emergency

By Associated Press Thursday, July 7, 2005 - Updated: 09:42 AM EST

JERUSALEM- British police told the Israel Embassy in London minutes before Thursday's explosions that they had received warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said. Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had planned to attend an economic conference in a hotel over the subway stop where one of the blasts occurred, and the warning prompted him to stay in his hotel room instead, government officials said.

http://news.bostonherald.com/international/view.bg?articleid=92907

Re: Israel Was Warned Ahead of First Blast
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=85346

2. An almost impossible coincidence. A London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack

A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm

3. Change and censorship of information in media

#1 was later changed.

Re: "Who Stands To Gain? Israel Warned, Cover-up In Progress
Propaganda Matrix | July 7 2005

BREAKING: Scrambled cover-up to try and change prior knowledge story.
Original reports stated that Binyamin Netanyahu was warned BEFORE the first blast, now all the Associated Press reports are being changed to say he was warned AFTER the first blast, for example this article <http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-07-07-israel-londonblasts_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA>.
The article linked below that we saved in our own format (and the website that carried it has strangely since crashed) said that Netanyahu was warned before the first blast.
Israel are now denying <http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=122106240&p=yzzyx68zx>they got a warning.

BREAKING: Scotland Yard says it got a warning before the attack and told Israel.
"The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address and economic summit."

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2005/070705standstogain.htm

#2 is important truth in London bombing case Because the chance for such coincidence is almost zero. Seldom we saw a report of this truth in mainstream media.
There was no necessity for media to fake a news of #1. But there is a strong motive for intelligence to deny and censor #1 and #2 if the bombing is an government planned one.

4. Lack of accountability that four dead "bombers" willing to die. The neighbor said the dead suspects were nice people. One has a baby of 8 months old and was a teacher of disabled children. Is that too convenient to say they all willing to suicide? Or more reasonably, those four men thought they were going to take part in an anti-terror exercise?

5. Unnecessary to die. Even if they were Islamic fanatics, there was no necessity for them to die. Suicide bombing happened when no other means could be used in high security alert situation. London until then was a peaceful city. There was no intensive alert. They could easily leave the bomb in train and get away. Even Al Qaida was not so stupid for such an unnecessary sacrifice. (btw, 10 pound bomb is a small object. It could be easy to fix in a shopping bag or hand bag. It couldn't be bigger than 2 of 5 pounds sugar pack which you can see in super market. It's totally unnecessary to have a big backpack like the dead suspects had in the picture. That's one of my doubt.)

6. The most absurd thing is there is no motivation. What was the purpose of bombing? Who was the target? The victim of London bombing are ordinary people. If it was an Al Qaida operation, then there are plenty of Jewish target, government target in London. Did they pick up wrong "enemy"? Who benefits from such attack?

If you don't have your mind fixed on information government and media set up for you such like " The suspects are suicide bombers", "Al Qaida links".A simple question will lead you to another point of view. The question is:

"Why four British citizens 'sacrifice' their own lives to kill other ordinary people? Who benefits from such attack? Al Qaida or Zionist controlled government?"

[oldmunchkin]

What gave him this case of the paradoids? I want to know so I can make sure never to try any of it! :D

Maybe this all fits in with the animal mutilations in the midwest. They were seeing the black helicopters, and hearing strange noises, too. After all that fun was over, "they" needed to do something with all the helicopters, so they sent them to follow this dude around. JUST FOR FUN!!

[Ziggy Stardust]

Originally posted by kathaksung
Then there is such a question for you: "Do you realize how absurd the "double posting" rule is? It cost you more time and inconvenience to other people. The purpose is ....." It's a sensible rule. It avoids spamming.

[kathaksung]

Originally posted by Ziggy Stardust
It's a sensible rule. It avoids spamming.

It seems you don't know the definition of "double post" here. Study it than comment.

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329. The mysterious "anti terror" exercise. London bombing (3) (7/22/05)

I leave it for people to think about by themselves the possibility that an "anti-terror exercise" took place at exact same time and same site when a real terror attack happened.
But obviously it was a work of intelligence:

1. No one has such authority except the intelligence to carry out an exercise at rush hour in busy public transportation line. Because it will cause traffic blocking and confusion and panic. Something what authority tries to avoid. So they must have extraordinary reason to do it.

2. This news was strictly censored by mainstream media before and after incident. Even Londoners were not aware of it.

3. Real terrorist would try to diversify the bomb into different guise or in small package to make it less noticeable. A determined suicide bomber used to bind explosive on his body so others won't suspect. Why did they carry unnecessary similar big backpacks?

When you have four delivery men to spread commercial fliers, would you drop them one by one in each delivery area or just drop them in a station then let them take public communication?(If so, why drove? Just let them take public communication right from the beginning.)

Imagine. How could government make you believe with four different pictures that: In Picadilly station, a man with empty hand; in a bus station, a man with a shopping bag; In King's Cross station, ...... Said these were suicide bombers.

Or rather, show you with one picture that four men flock together with similar big backpacks?

The four dead men hadn't behaved in real terrorist way but to fit the demand of government propaganda that they were bombers.

4. The four dead "suicide bombers" likely were informants recruited by British intelligence. They might not be successful in the job of penetrating into fanatic Islamic group. They were chosen to be the "sacrifice bomber" by intelligence. They accepted backpacks and were told it was an "exercise" organized by their handler. The bombing didn't take place at same time. But it didn't matter. Even if the dead man noticed the blast, they took it as "exercise".

Read the following information. It shows that: 1. Government knew something would happen. 2. Police's behave may be explained as a preparation for an "exercise". 3. The most important thing is nobody(include police) seemed to know there was an "exercise" before or after the incident.

Re: "Londoners Suspicious Of Station Closures Before Blasts
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | July 12 2005

Internet forums are not the benchmark of absolute truth and unlike the government, who eagerly rush to give credibility to an 'Al-Qaeda' statement as soon as a Bush-linked Internet company can post it, we do not offer this as concrete proof of anything. However, it is interesting nonetheless.

Several different people on the forum of the London Evening Standard website are reporting their own perculiar experiences on the day of the bombing.

One member writes,
Hi everyone,

Did anyone travelling in BEFORE the attacks began yesterday notice anything peculiar on their tube journey?

I catch the Piccadilly line at 7.15am each morning from Southgate to reach my work in Kensington by 8.00. Normally, all seats are taken by Finsbury Park and carriages are packed by Kings Cross.

However, yesterday my tube journey was eerily quiet. For the first time ever there were spare seats in my carriage all the way through zone 1. It was noticeable enough for me to wonder what on earth was going on. This was at 7.45 - over an hour before attacks began.
I've also heard people saying that the Northern Line was being shut down at the same time.
Is there something that we're not being told?

Another member responds,
yes!!

I was due to pick a work collegue up from balham at 7:15am, but when i got there i was greeted with Tube emergency vans, police and and hoards of people being turned away from a closed station.

All very strange they must have known something was going to happan, the surely had a tip off. As i drove along the road, (which also follows the tubes) they were all shut and hundreds of people were queing for buses.

when i reached Oval, which was open there were two armed policemen in a road next to the station, which for a quiet area like that is extremly rare.

the northen line was shut from morden to stockwell. They blatently knew something was going down, they just got it wrong and are hoping no one mentions anything.

When combined with the bomb scares in different major cities days before the bombing, the Israeli warnings and the beyond a coincidence exercises the day of the attack, these accounts shed more light on the true nature of the attack.

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=37984

330. London bombing is a justification for coming US attack (7/27/05)

In "extortion war on people", inside group activated several bombing attacks disguised as "terror attack" to blackmail people for extra power.

1. Feds was behind Oklahoma bombing. D.O.J. tried to seek the power which was similar to "Patriot Act" had given but failed.

2. D.O.J. successfully got the "Patriot Act" in 911 attack. Which also justified the later Mid-east war.

3. A DC sniper shooting spree pushed the US House passed the bill to authorize the Iraq war power to President Bush in early October, 2002. Iraq war was inevitable.

4. That was why about same time in October, 2002, a French oil tanker was attacked and there was a Bali bombing which killed nearly 200 Australians. An effort to push France and Australia to join the Iraq war. It failed on France but succeeded on Australia.

5. Madrid bombing in March 2004 was obvious at the purpose to help Bush's ally - Aznar - in election. Though it failed.

All these bombings came with a strong motive - to provoke the public feeling so inside group could get what they want: a war, an election or a power.

London bombing lacks of an obvious motive. But it coincides perfectly with the development of persecution D.O.J. applies on me. I immediately knew what it was when I heard the news of London bombing. (see # 327)

It was not a coincidence that State Secretary Rice visited China next day (7/8). The plot from the beginning was planned as a drug case framed with the help of Chinese secret police. (Former FBI director Louis Freeh and DEA head Marshall lost their jobs in first secret deal with China in 2001.) Rice's visit signifies a new plot. (see "249. Secret deal and July plot (8/24/04)")

The second London bombing was a soured attempt of this plot. They still let it go but reduce the level to a light one. The following events all connect to the case, took place on 7/21/2005. Notice some of them caught big topics but the practical result were little.

1. The second London bombing on 7/21. All were similar to the first bombing. Only this time, no bomb was exploded. Nobody died, include "suicide bomber".

2. Since 7/11, San Jose had experienced a weather hotter then usual, about 5 to 10 degrees above normal. That heat wave caused a dozen of unusual deaths in Los Angles and Arizona. On the very day of 7/21, the temperature dropped below normal and there was a rain. News said, "Yeesh. Four days ago, the South Bay was baking in 90-degree heat. On Thursday, it was cool, cloudy and raining. In July.What gives?.... San Jose reached only 77 degrees. Thursday - normal for the date is 84. And the rain was scant: .01 inches."

I used to trim trees on Thursdays. (Friday is garbage collect day) I collected yard trash on week-end that week, several days before Thursday. They knew I would have yard trash on street on 7/21 the Thursday. So there was a "very unusual" rain(TV broadcaster said). Only at last it turned out to be a small one: 0.01 inches.

3. On 7/21, China raised the value of its currency by 2% which some economists say is undervalued by 40 percent. The echo is loud only the step is small. ( I will explain later how the currency rate is part of deal.)

4. Patriot Act extended on that night. "Within hours of a a second attack on the London transit system, lawmakers in the House and Senate pushed ahead Thursday with starkly different bills to extend the USA Patriot Act anti-terrorism law." (Mercury News, 7/22/05)
( I will explain it later some of version related to my case.)

The main drama, an attack in US, doesn't act yet. It will be a big one. It probably will take place in several places such like New York, Boston.... especially in California. Beware of a large terror attack, from our own government.

[Kumu Honua]

This is the most humorous post I have EVER read...

[Steely Glint]

We got a thread of 'em. :o

[SeXXXy]

kathaksung would be better off dead, he would be out of his misery.

I really would like to meet him though.

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by kathaksung
I leave it for people to think about by themselves the possibility that an "anti-terror exercise" took place at exact same time and same site when a real terror attack happened.
But obviously it was a work of intelligence:

I don't know about you, but I didn't think it was particularly smart. Or nice.:bored:

[seikojin]

:o
It is odd some of the things brought up. They would make great sketch comedy.

Its really hard to digest poor grammar on top of sketchy conspiracy theories. Funny; but hard to actually get.

With all the posting, one would thing clarity of the native tongue would surface.

I hope this is nipped in the bud soon as it serves no purpose except to cause useless and undue stress... Quit trying to read between the lines of the letter I man...

[Minx]

I wonder if maybe there's someone out there writing a thesis on our Kathaksung (who isn't just OUR kathaksung!) :o

[kathaksung]

331. Interest rate (8/2/05)

At first, I thought the "terror attack:" on US would take place in early August. Because Feds arranged a trip for my relatives at that time. The trip will cover New York and Canada from 8/6 to 8/13. Anytime if possible, Feds always arranged a trip in the case because it's easy to plant to arrest during a trip or murder by an accident. The latest travel Feds arranged was in April. In that plot, H.A. gave a final date to fix garage door on 4/17 which I viewed as action date of Feds. It coincides with the return date of my relatives. That China trip took almost one month vacation date on my relatives so I thought there would be no more trip for them this year. But when Feds needs it, people have to obey, so do the companies they work for. It reflects the eagerness of Feds. (When I use the word "Feds", I mean D.O.J. and its accessories FBI, DEA... , not Federal Reserve.)

Why pick up this time? Because on 8/9, Federal Reserve likely will once again raise the bench interest rate. As I have said, Feds bought a lot of houses in my case, so they desperately try to make the interest rate low to keep the house value high.

What did they do to keep the interest rate low?

1. Intimidation on financial group not to raise the rate too fast. A trick Feds is good at. Despite the covert intimidation, there was an open one in last August(2004) when Feds raised alert of certain financial area to orange code. When people doubted, they said it was from a seized computer of Al Qaida. The seized Al Qaida was finally proved an informant of Feds.

As a result, Federal Reserve collaborated. Greenspan dropped the interest rates from 6.5% to 1.75% in 2001. (A 4.75 drop in 12 months) House market boosted. Now the economic situation forces Federal Reserve to raise the interest rate to anti inflation and housing market balloon and maintain dollar from collapsing. Greenspan raised the rate in a measured (stagnant) step. (A raise of 2.25 in 12 months from 1% to 3.25%)

2. To reduce the employment. A high employment means a hot economy that enterprises will chase capital investment to deal with the increased wage, raw material etc. That will significantly push up the interest rate. .

Bush administration carries out a weak dollar policy which makes merchandise made in US cheaper to the foreign buyers. Dollar depreciates almost 1/3 to Euro and 20% to Japanese Yuen. Bush also cut the tax to let people have more money to spend. (It's a trick though. He lets people spend on their debt. He has a historical budget deficit. People have to pay off the debt later by paying more tax)

Do these policies work? Yes, it creates demand but does little to boost employment. Because Feds tried their best to reduce the employment. How?

(1) By outsourcing jobs. When it was criticized, they threw out a strange theory that outsourcing will benefit US economy in future.

(2) Stop hiring new workers. Big firms did not hire workers when demand increased. Same workers have to do more job. The result you could see from media in later 2003. When they beat the drum to say "Growth is now super-super strong compared to super strong,'', "U.S. 3rd-Qtr GDP Grew at 8.2% Rate, Fastest Since '84". They never mentioned about the jobs. They only said the productivity is increased by a double digit. In another word, 10 workers must do the job originally 11 workers did. For this phenomenon, they invent a new word:"Jobless recovery".

(3) Lay off working people.
Jobless recovery went into year2004. It was an election year. Bush's economic advisers predicted in early February that the US economy would add 2.6 million jobs in 2004. But that was against Feds' interest. Then we saw, "MCI to slash 7500 jobs"(5/11/04), "Dupont will lay off at least 2500" (4/9) "Seagate to cut 2,940 jobs" (May or June 04) "AT&T to cut 7,500 more jobs"(10/8) ..... At last, Bush was unable to make it a positive topic in his election campaign.

The explanation from Greenspan was that enterprises still lacked of confidence. That in this economy recovery, enterprises had an unusual conservative attitude to increase new capital investment and hiring more people.

Rare people know all these problem were caused by Feds. Bush's election, public's interest are out of consideration. Feds' interest, how small it is, is always at first place. They control CEO of big firms.(see "291. CEO and company (2/14/05)" and #292) So by outsourcing, controlling hiring and spending, Feds can handle the process of economy. Experts are confusing with the development of interest rate and over-heated housing market. They will understand it if they view it from another angle.

And now you may understand why China can maintain its currency exchange rate without being punished. It's all about inflation. A low inflation will help the interest rate low. That's what Feds want.

332. Interest rate (2) (8/7/05)

To keep the interest rate low, Feds also

3. Reduce the money supply by containing the wage increase.

Re: US real wages fall at fastest rate in 14 years
By Christopher Swann in Washington
May 10 2005 17:59

Real wages in the US are falling at their fastest rate in 14 years, according to data surveyed by the Financial Times.
Inflation rose 3.1 per cent in the year to March but salaries climbed just 2.4 per cent, according to the Employment Cost Index. In the final three months of 2004, real wages fell by 0.9 per cent.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/f269a8f4-c173-11d9-943f-00000e2511c8.html

4. Try to keep inflation rate at low figures. When the gasoline price and house price go up like a rocket, Feds suppresses the price of other merchandise to lower the inflation index.

(1) One obvious method is to reduce the price of automobile. The auto price plays an important role in inflation index. Be noticed that in recent two years, the price of automobiles hasn't risen. It even goes down despite the rising steel price. To maintain the inflation index low till the August plot, though exhausted, the auto manufacturers made a last ditch effort by pushing out "Employee discount" in July.

G.M. lost more than 1.1 billion in latest quarter in North America, overwhelming solid profit at financing unit GMAC and its operations in China, Europe and Latin America. Why G.M. could make a profit abroad but lost heavily in domestic market? Because its operation abroad is normal under economic principle while in US, it was operated under a twisted, artificial command. CEO of auto makers work not for the interest of share holders but for the interest of Inside Group.

(2) Keep the exchange rate of Chinese Yuen with US dollar.

Cheap merchandise from China keep US inflation low. But it also caused a large trade deficit with China which will hurt US economy in long run. For years, there is a big US and international pressure on China to urge it abandoning the fixed currency rate policy. China didn't follow. Because it is covertly supported by Inside Group. The threat of trade punishment is never carried out. Greenspan even defends China by saying that the appreciated Chinese Yuen has little help to improve US economy.

In early May, media reported that some financial firm predicted China would raise its currency value in mid May. One news among the reports caught my eye. It was a sentence: "Gold Sach firmly predicts that China will re-value its currency on May 18." For the first time it strengthened my belief that the re-value of Chinese currency related to a secret deal between the secret police of two countries. I knew Feds prefer the current situation of Chinese currency because it keeps US interest rate low. But did they have a secret deal?

I had thought 5/19(Thursday) was an action date of Feds. (H.A. letter of "overgrown tree" set the last date to fix was 5/19) The collaborate plan should be carried out at about same time. The most important thing was the word "Gold Sach". In my experience, stock market is another main cash register where Feds withdraw money from. In the period when stock went bull (1999-2000), I observed Gold Sach was the firm which gave signal to Feds in stock trading.(when to buy or sell) In my opinion, this firm has close relationship with Feds. It must have inside information that China would raise its currency value on 5/18.

May plot soured. So did Gold Sach's prediction.

Then it came 7/21, the second London bombing. There was no death this time because the master bombing in US didn't take place to the plan. It also came with the re-value of Chinese currency. A 2% adjustment, far from 10% to 15% which US demanded. Because US interest rate still has to be kept in low. But it confirms my belief: They had relationship to the plan of D.O.J.

[carrie608]

Oh hell, this thread back again :cry: and i cant be bothered reading all that. :o

[DarkWraith]

Nobody can be bothered to do any more than quickly skim his messages anymore, and this has been true for a very long time. The exception seems to be Dreadnaught...but he's wierd.:o

[Dreadnaught]

I go to college. The act of skimming, actually reading just one paragraph out of an essay/book and arguing based on just that one paragraph is second nature. :o

[RandBlade]

Originally posted by carrie608
Oh hell, this thread back again :cry: and i cant be bothered reading all that. :o Thank you for your detailed post, it was most informative :o

[Minx]

This isn't fair. How come Jews are allowed to argue based on only one paragraph of a text?

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by Minx
This isn't fair. How come Jews are allowed to argue based on only one paragraph of a text?

Because somehow we are the best at it. :o

[carrie608]

Originally posted by RandBlade
Thank you for your detailed post, it was most informative :o
You're welcome!! :haha:

[kathaksung]

333. Manipulate long term interest rate ( 8/12/05)

Fourteen months ago, when Federal benchmark interest rate was at 45 years low of 1%, the interest of 10 year bond (Federal treasure 10 year note) was 4.8% and the 30 year mortgage rate was about 5.6%. After Federal interest rate being raised from 1% to 3.5%, the 10 year bond rate is about 4.3% and the 30 year mortgage rate is about 5.8%. Either has little change or even has a drop.

To economic rule, long term interest rate always follows the track of short term rate. Now it is moving in a conflict way. Federal Reserve raised the interest rate 10 times, the median price of housing market goes to higher and higher. Economists puzzled. Even Alan Greenspan said that he does not have a good explanation why the long term interest rates fall when the Reserve has been raising short term rates.

Rare people know it's the work of Feds. (Inside group such like D.O.J., FBI and DEA) They hold a large quantity real estates so they resist any change that will influence rising house price. The tactic they used also include the following:

1. Keep the rate of 10 year Federal treasure note low by letting foreign countries (mainly Japan and China) buying a large quantities of US Treasuries. 10 year bonds is the main factor to influence the 30 years mortgage rate.

2. Expand the bond market of home mortgage. Japanese and Chinese government continually buy in the bonds issued by Gunnie Mae(US Government National Mortgage Association), Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Supply a large quantity of low interest fund to home mortgage company.

Japan is a puppet of US. It follows the order of Inside Group. China, has secret deal with Feds, collaborate in any side related to framed case.

3. Intimidate Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae to expand the home mortgage lending business. In 2003 and 2004, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae suffered scandal of account manipulation and financial report problem. Top executives were ousted. As a result, in 2005, the two firms raise the ceiling of single family house mortgage from 333.7k to 359.65k. It said that will help consumers to buy high price house. It also flame the heated house market.

There is always a purpose when a scandal revealed. We learned it from Lewinsky scandal and Watergate scandal. And the result of scandal on Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae helped to create a housing bubble. It developed a potential crisis that in this April Greenspan had to urge Congress to restrict the multi billion-dollar holdings of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, warning that their huge debt could imperil US financial markets.

A housing bubble is formed. It will dragged US economy into a quagmire in future. All for the interest of Feds.

334. Patriot Act meeting on 7/21 (8/17/05)

I like reading. I went to library frequently when I had the drive license. The knowledge I learned from book helped me to resolve many puzzles.

I had bought a book from annual library book sale. "Spy catcher" is a candid autobiography of a Senior intelligence officer (British MI5) Peter Wright. (The book was published in 1987, New York). In it Wright talked about how they tried to catch the spy by contaminating the secret document with radioactive material. If the spy took the radioactive document through a check point, it would touch off a Geiger counter. Then spy could be caught. Wright admitted that the radiation would hurt people's health.

After my leg was hurt in second time, I realized it was not the problem of the muscle. I started to relate the hurt part of the leg to the back pocket where I kept money. It was Peter Wright's story reminded me of it was a radioactive money used for tracing. Later I knew the official term for that kind of money is "isotope money" when I complained to D.A.'s office. (see "3. ISOTOPE MONEY (How agent find cash savings at your home)"".

Another big one is E-M wave. (Electrical- Magnet wave). In early 90s I also found Feds had a technique to force people to sleep. I didn't know what was it. I could only speculate it was a radiation.

It was until about in 1997, I borrowed a book "CIA" from the library. When I read the story of how Soviet got a technique invented by Pentagon, I almost jumped up. So that was the sleep wave - an E-M wave imitated brain wave. (see "16. EM Sleep wave (5)")

I am a big target of Feds. It's natural they'll search where I went and what did I read. When D.O.J. demand a library record search in Patriot Act, I thought it was particularly for my case.

When I first started to write about my story in Internet, I found a strange phenomenon. I could see my messages when I logged in with my user's name but failed to see it with other's name. I confirmed it by the computer of my tenant who had a separate phone line and by the computer in public library. This is a tactic of covert censorship. The poster thought his message could be seen publicly while as a matter of fact nobody could read it except himself. I was once puzzled why Feds hadn't controlled the phone line of my tenant and library which gave me a chance to find their trick. Then the demand of D.O.J. in Patriot Act explained it.

Normally FBI must apply a warrant to monitor a specific phone line from judge. In Patriot Act, they demanded the surveillance power be expanded to all phone lines target used. Thus they can connect their control server to all lines. Even I click into a new line, I still got a fake phenomenon. Then their secret wouldn't be revealed.

In last passage of article "Patriot Act supported", Mercury News on 7/22 wrote, "Although 16 provisions of the Patriot Act are set to expire, most of the congressional debate has focused on a few sections. They include one allowing the FBI to seize records from financial companies, libraries, doctors' offices and other businesses, and another that permits "roving wiretaps"that apply to a person rather than a particular telephone."

Mercury News is a local media. I view it as a propaganda tool of Feds. It was not a coincidence that it picked up the two from all 16 provisions - the two I think were particularly proposed on my case. It is an intimidation and a power show-off. But it also proved what I said is correct. In "327. London bombing (7/12/05)" I said "I think it was the work of D.O.J." The later development of July 21 second London bombing and events occurred the same day confirmed it. (see "330. London bombing is a justification for coming US attack (7/27/05)")

335. 4th Amendment (8/17/05)

These days, Feds activate a wave in Internet to propaganda on "eliminate the wall erected to prevent the sharing information from foreign with domestic criminal law enforcement." Said the wall caused the success of 911 attack. It's an attack at the Constitution - the 4th amendment.

Several times Feds set up traps in my case. One was to change the roof of my house. The other one was to change the garage door. I alleged Feds had planted drugs in my attic and in my garage. They planned to carry out a search and arrest by guise as the roofing or the garage door contractor.

Why couldn't they direct search and arrest? Fourth amendment forbid them to do so. They couldn't apply a search warrant on suspicion. They must have evidence. But I am innocent man, they have no evidence. What they can do is plant. But for that plant they still need a reason to get a search warrant.

Because it's easy for them to get the foreign collaboration to get a "useful" information. Then to get a FISA warrant which is easy to get. An unreasonable search and arrest could be done if the "information sharing" is allowed.

If the wall was broken, every citizen will lose the protection of the 4th amendment from unreasonable search and arrest. Everyone can be the victim of Feds' planting.

Here I repeat the message I posted before. D.O.J. is desperately to attack that protect wall.

Re post: Ashcroft had accused, and now it's his accessories are accusing Jamie Gorelick erected the "wall" between the FBI and the CIA that kept them from sharing intelligence and possibly from doing more to prevent the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. That because FBI feared to touch that wall, they hadn't applied a permission to search suspect Zacarias Moussaoui's computer, so they lost chance to stop the 911 attack in advance.

This is a blackmail.

There are two ways for FBI to apply a search warranty from Judge. One is by FISA court.(Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) In which a warranty is in a very low standard and is easy to get. The other way is by criminal law court which is in high standard because Americans are protected by 4th amendment from unreasonable search and arrest.

When Ashcroft and FBI said there is a wall to block sharing information between foreign information and criminal investigation, he is demanding a big police power expanding which makes the 4th amendment mean nothing. He then can search and arrest American citizen at his will, only based on suspicion(FISA standard is low) while we should be protected by criminal law from being unreasonable search and arrest. (must based on evidence)

D.O.J. use Moussaoui's case as a reason, said because the FBI feared to touch the wall of criminal law so they didn't investigate Moussaoui's computer. It's hypocrite and is a misleading. We don't have to be a professional like A.G. or FBI to know that Moussaoui is a foreigner and fits for FISA. Why FBI hadn't apply FISA(obviously an easy one) but considered the domestic criminal law? And why they even didn't apply? It is incompetence, a mistake, or a deliberate negligence? Many information revealed that the government knew 911 attack in advance, it was allowed to happen. Because they benefit from it.

FBI didn't apply a warrant from FISA, they say because they are afraid to touch that wall. A man caught driving without a license. He said because he was afraid he won't pass the road test so he hadn't apply one. Could a judge justify that reason? As a matter of fact, the FISA standard is very low, if FBI had applied one, they for sure would get it. But they hadn't.

What D.O.J. wants is to give FBI more police power to search and arrest people. They want to low the standard of criminal law. That's a blackmail in the name of "war on terrorism".

BTW, there is a deep meaning of "erect the wall of sharing information" . In fact, intelligence share the information already. The reality is they can't use that information to apply a search warrant because it's illegal. The wall prevent they use FISA standard on domestic criminal case.

Theoretically, FBI can't spy a citizen unless they have evidence the man has committed crime. When this "sharing information wall" is broken, now they can search a citizen covertly only on suspicion. Because the FISA standard is low.

This is the real purpose of D.O.J.. And it claimed the"Patriot Act" gave it such privilege.
The fact is, under the "Patriot Act", Bush and D.O.J. expand their fascist police power. American people are losing the protect from "unreasonable search and arrest" of the 4th amendment.

Government and media never tell people about this. They steal the civil liberty in the name of security. You are losing your constitutional right.

[Lord_Mantis]

When I first started to write about my story in Internet, I found a strange phenomenon. I could see my messages when I logged in with my user's name but failed to see it with other's name. I confirmed it by the computer of my tenant who had a separate phone line and by the computer in public library. This is a tactic of covert censorship. The poster thought his message could be seen publicly while as a matter of fact nobody could read it except himself. I was once puzzled why Feds hadn't controlled the phone line of my tenant and library which gave me a chance to find their trick. Then the demand of D.O.J. in Patriot Act explained it.

But I've had the distinct...pleasure of reading each and every one of your posts.

Maybe I'm with the F.B.I.? :alien:

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by kathaksung
Rare people know it's the work of Feds. (Inside group such like D.O.J., FBI and DEA) They hold a large quantity real estates so they resist any change that will influence rising house price. The tactic they used also include the following:

If the federal government owns enough real estate to influence the entire national real estate market, don't you suppose people would catch on to the massive amounts of empty houses sitting around out there?


Why couldn't they direct search and arrest? Fourth amendment forbid them to do so. They couldn't apply a search warrant on suspicion. They must have evidence. But I am innocent man, they have no evidence. What they can do is plant. But for that plant they still need a reason to get a search warrant.

If they need a warrant to plant evidence to get a warrant, why didn't they just end this four years ago? :bored: Why do I continue to engage you in this discussion? :bored: :bored:

PS- we already went over this. You fell asleep at the wheel because you probably had a minor heart problem that should be looked at. ;)

[computertech82]

Quote: "Theoretically, FBI can't spy a citizen unless they have evidence the man has committed crime. When this "sharing information wall" is broken, now they can search a citizen covertly only on suspicion. Because the FISA standard is low. "

Stupid, if they already had EVIDENCE, there is NO need to "spy". You go to jail. And if they "plant" evidence, they can easily just break in your house or just plant it while they search. They can use the excuse "informant says you do drugs". Being "contractors" to plant stuff is just stupid and a waste of time. There are far easier and cheaper ways.
Of course the most funny part, if the FBI, CIA, ect. are so good at killing, how come they screwed up so many attempts? It would be beyond easy to kill you. Walk up with shotgun, blow you away. So many cases are not solved, noone would care about your death and noone would investigate. You're not worth it.

Quote: Rare people know it's the work of Feds. (Inside group such like D.O.J., FBI and DEA) They hold a large quantity real estates so they resist any change that will influence rising house price.
Again, stupid, prices are still rising ... it's called demand. If the feds wanted to drive prices down, all they have to do is DUMP houses on the market. Instant price drop.

This is really sad, you need to go to the hosipital and admit yourself.

[iron12]

America is so bad that’s why people are doing everything they can to escape this place. That’s why they have to build a wall to keep us from escaping. :haha:

Whatever. Say what you want. What ever makes you feel better about where you live. If bashing America helps you get through the day and makes you feel better about your circumstance will then bash away.


:D

[kathaksung]

Originally posted by computertech82
Quote: "Theoretically, FBI can't spy a citizen unless they have evidence the man has committed crime. When this "sharing information wall" is broken, now they can search a citizen covertly only on suspicion. Because the FISA standard is low. "

Stupid, if they already had EVIDENCE, there is NO need to "spy". You go to jail. And if they "plant" evidence, they can easily just break in your house or just plant it while they search. They can use the excuse "informant says you do drugs". .

The evidence is not someone say you "do drugs". You must found they are doing drugs. You can't ask for a warrant from a judge based on "They say he is doing drugs". Or "I found there is drugs in his home." Anyone can plant it there. You must convince judge "he is doing drugs". That is trading or doing with it.

How can you break in the house or plant it while you search without evidence? That's illegal. That's what 4th amendment protect people from unreasonable search and arrest. If you want to break in the house of plant while in search, you must first apply a warrant with evidence. Get the point.

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336. Worm and internet censorship (8/22/05)

Internet harassing on me is almost a routine. In attempt frame case, Feds even activate virus attack. Such cases of virus attack have never been resolved, because the hand behind it was intelligence. Since my computer is under the control of Feds' server, everything must pass the filter, so no one can pollute my computer except Feds. (see
"153. Computer Worm attack 165. Swift response to "153. Computer Worm attack" (9/26/03)").

A few days ago, an alert of new computer worm was issued.(Zotob?) I view it as another psychological propaganda prepared by Feds for an internet attack. On 8/19, there was a heavy harassment on my computer. It took me one hour to post a message in a forum. Next day, it was worse. I had to recover the computer by re-installing software to clean the virus. Then they jammed the telephone line by "port is not available or busy". I was blocked to internet the whole day and thereafter. It seems Feds disabled the modem of computer.

All was a repeat of the procession of a framed case in August 2003. (see #153) What will they do this time?

My computer was disabled. So I went to shopping. When I went back to the tram station with food bags, I saw a police car park near the station. Two policemen were searching a man. In rural San Jose, people used to drive. Few people were seen on the road. There were only four people there at the entrance of shopping center: the man and two police, and me. I believe it was an action designed for me, probably an intimidation. Feds try their best to find an excuse to search and arrest - from seeking a law to expand their power to planting in yard trash, or a road search.

Three weeks ago, my relatives visited me. They invited me out for a dinner.

When our car was backing out the lane, another car rushed in, blocked our way. My wife said it was her friend, after a little talk, she took a box back into the car, said it was some CD. I asked my wife to put it in the house. She refused.(the car is at the door of house.) She would rather keep the box in car than to go with us for the dinner. I didn't want to take any chance that there was something illegal inside the box because these days Feds are very aggressive. And I don't believe any coincidence too.
So, at last it was me leaving the car and abandoned that dinner.

Don't be surprise if you can't see my post on time. Either being blocked from internet or being arrested in an unreasonable search. Feds is in hysteria.

(I have to use an old computer to post right now. A situation similar to two years ago. see #153.)

337. Swift response to #336 (8/27/05)

In today's Mercury News, There was a news:"2 men arrested in worm probe" It said, "Authorities in Morocco and Turkey have arrested two people believed responsible for a computer worm that infected networks at US. companies and government agencies earlier this month."

Essebar, the Moroccan, 18, wrote the code. Ekici, 21, the Turk, who paid for it. "They will be prosecuted in those countries. " (by Mark Sherman, AP, 8/27/05)

I think it's a swift response to my accusation of last message #336. It resembles to the same computer attack in August, 03. There was also a swift response to my accusation then. (see 165. Swift response to "153. Computer Worm attack" (9/26/03))

As I have said, my computer is under control of a server of Feds. Nobody could send a virus on my computer except Feds. When I re-install the software, they harassed telephone port. When one computer was disabled and I use the old one, the harassing continues. All these revealed Feds is in urgency. Anything can take place these days. Feds arranged another two trips for my family members next month. Though I may be arrested any time, I allege Feds planned another big frame case on them. (or a slaughter in the name of accident) It is also a signal that house market bubble is going to break off.

338. Retreat from housing market (8/22/05)

After I was blocked to Internet last Saturday, I went out. I found there was an open house in next block. I took a visit. It was a corner space. To my acknowledge, a corner house is a must for Feds because there they can monitor two roads. The price was 599k, a drop from 635k marked a few days ago. This means it is a serious sale. Feds is getting rid of the real estate they hold. The process of retreat started a year or two ago but now is in a hurry.

G lady sold her house at 1.3 million in March. (see G lady at "32. "Operation Fire Dragon"") Feds and their accessories made a good profit privately in this booming of housing bubble. The bubble doesn't pop off because my case hasn't finished yet. But it seems it's hard to sustain it any longer.

When Feds starts to sell the house near my residence and its accessories are leaving too, than this booming market is at its end. I foresee an economic down turn, if not a crisis, is only a few months away.

[Minx]

You just came back 'cause you sensed me asking Dreadsie to move your thread to the DBZ section, didn't you Kat :heart:

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by kathaksung
The evidence is not someone say you "do drugs". You must found they are doing drugs. You can't ask for a warrant from a judge based on "They say he is doing drugs". Or "I found there is drugs in his home." Anyone can plant it there. You must convince judge "he is doing drugs". That is trading or doing with it.

How can you break in the house or plant it while you search without evidence? That's illegal. That's what 4th amendment protect people from unreasonable search and arrest. If you want to break in the house of plant while in search, you must first apply a warrant with evidence. Get the point.

No, I don't get the point, that was the most circular logic I've seen in a while :bulb:



When our car was backing out the lane, another car rushed in, blocked our way. My wife said it was her friend, after a little talk, she took a box back into the car, said it was some CD. I asked my wife to put it in the house. She refused.(the car is at the door of house.) She would rather keep the box in car than to go with us for the dinner. I didn't want to take any chance that there was something illegal inside the box because these days Feds are very aggressive. And I don't believe any coincidence too.
So, at last it was me leaving the car and abandoned that dinner.



Please be clear! Is your wife on your side or is she part of the conspiracy? Are you even living with her?

The bubble doesn't pop off because my case hasn't finished yet. But it seems it's hard to sustain it any longer.

So, the federal government (which according to you owns so much property that it can dominate the housing market) is influencing housing prices in order to monitor your movements?

[kathaksung]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught


Please be clear! Is your wife on your side or is she part of the conspiracy? Are you even living with her?]

See message #340 posted below.

Originally posted by Dreadnaught
So, the federal government (which according to you owns so much property that it can dominate the housing market) is influencing housing prices in order to monitor your movements? [/B]

Yes.

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339. The September plot (9/2/05)

I was heavily harassed in Internet. In some sites I was not able to post because the post function was disabled. I was blocked to access some sites for weeks. Slow procession is almost a routine. The persecution on me is more and more aggressive since Federal Reserve starts its measured step to raise the interest rate.

Started from early this year, there were:
1. In January, they planned the "Boston dirty bomb" case. (See "284. Aggressive FBI (1/24/05)")

2. From 3/14 to 7/1, there were three attempts to frame a case through the work of H.A. (Homeowners' association).

3. In July, there were two London bombings which I allege were planned for my case.

4. Arrange trips for the case. Either aimed to eliminate or to justify a search and arrest. They are:

(1) A one month trip to China for my family members. My brother and my sister in law left on 3/20, returned on 4/17. It coincided with the notice of H.A.which was sent to me on 3/14 and set the final day on 4/17.

(2) A one week trip to East coast and Canada (8/6 to 8/13) It was originally planned for many of my family members but at last only my wife and my daughter took the tour.

Two days before that trip and one day after, there were bombing alert issued which might indicate that if the frame case have happened, terror attack would take place too.

Re: al-Qaida's No. 2 Threatens London, U.S.
AP - Thu Aug 4, 8:59 PM ET
CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Qaida's No. 2 embraced the London suicide bombings Thursday, warned Britain that more destruction lies ahead and promised tens of thousands of U.S. casualties in Iraq in a brazen assertion of the terror group's global reach.
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/osama_bin_laden_and_al_qaida

US warns of new attacks on London
DAVID LEPPARD
August 14, 2005

AMERICAN intelligence chiefs have warned that Al-Qaeda terrorists are plotting to drive hijacked fuel tankers into petrol stations in an effort to cause mass casualties in London and US cities in the next few weeks.
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=40135

(3) A one week trip to East coast and Canada between 9/10 to 9/18. My parents and my brother and sister, who haven't taken the August tour, will go this one.

(4) A one week trip to Cambodian and Vietnam between 9/23 to 9/30. My wife accepted an invitation from Korea Air line. The treatment is business class.

I worry about the safety of my family members. There were a sudden surge of airplane accidents these days. (Greece, Peru, Venezuela.... 5 of them?) I don't think it is a coincidence. Like London bombing, it is a psychological justification for the coming "terror attack" or "accident". I am too familiar with these tricks of Feds.

340. For those work for the Feds (9/7/05)

The psychological preparation for airplane crash is going on. Two days ago, (9/5) a jetliner crashed in Indonesia which killed 117 aboard.

Four days ago, I learned my younger sisters was found having hepatitis C. Unlike other hepatitis, C type hepatitis is a rare disease which could cause a rapid death. She is now preparing her will for the worst situation.

I don't think it's a coincidence she got sick this time. My younger sister doesn't join any trip with family members. So if there is an elimination, Feds must find some other way.

My younger sister cut her contact with me for years. It was not a surprise when many others did the same way. (see '9. Estranged friends and customers ") I met her only last year in the service of dead father in law. But though we hadn't met each other for years, she avoided to talk to me. Obviously she was intimidated. Her attendance to the service was arranged by Feds.

Even though my family members cooperate with Feds, for many times I saw them to be guided to a possible death trip. Because they could be witnesses to reveal a framed case.

This is something sad for those work for the intelligence. When Muhammad and Melvo worked as lookout for feds and the four "suicide bomber" went for an "exercise", they never dreamed of they were walking on a road of never return. I hope my worry about the accident won't take place.

341. Interest rate in Early September (9/7/05)

In last week, the interest rate of 10 years bonds fell to 4.01% and 30 years mortgage rate fell to 5.71%. The difference of rate of 10 years bond to the bench mark rate of Federal Reserve (3.5%) is only 0.5%. It means when bank borrow a sum of money from Federal Reserve overnight, they must pay 3.5% interest rate on it. But if it issues a 10 year bond, the interest rate they pay is only 4%.

Will inflation for next 10 years only climbs a 0.5%? Of course not. But Inside group can reverse the economic rule. They can push foreign country to buy US bonds by bribing them in secret deal. They can push CEO of financial firm and pension managers to invest on mortgage bonds. Because these CEO work for the interest of Feds not for the shareholders. If the loss happens, it's the loss of average investor not the CEO's. Even these managers being ousted, they still can leave with a big severance pay and being awarded another high ranking job.

Feds used to have a swift response to cover up their covert job I revealed. Such like to arrest scapegoats for the computer worm attack or found excuse for the fake "terror attack". Only on interest rate, they can't find an explanation. Because it is against economic principle. Any adjustment upwards will hurt their interest in real estates they hold. For this purpose, they even created big natural disaster to block the rising interest rate.

[iron12]

Just say NO!

[Illusions]

Blunt and to the point:

Some sites are probably not letting you post because you're a known spammer of pointless, self-centered conspiracy theories, which are completely impossible (why would the gov't waste so much money to take you out...)

Some of your family members are probably avoiding you because you're delusional, paranoid, and schizo...

:o

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by kathaksung
Yes.

Do you have any idea how many empty residential houses the federal government would have to own in order to closely control the housing market in the US? :bulb:

And why would they do any of this just to screw you over!?! :bulb: :bulb: :bulb:

[Hazir]

Is there anybody in the world who's more important than you?

And please give some names, because the people after you are so incompetent obviously that htey should be fired.

[Minx]

This would make one helluva webcomic.

[Kumu Honua]

Originally posted by Illusions
Blunt and to the point:

Some sites are probably not letting you post because you're a known spammer of pointless, self-centered conspiracy theories, which are completely impossible (why would the gov't waste so much money to take you out...)

Some of your family members are probably avoiding you because you're delusional, paranoid, and schizo...

:o

More to the point.

If the government WAS trying to take him out.....I don't think he would have ever been able to get to point 10....let alone 300 or so.

[DarkWraith]

Say what you will about Kat, but I think it's impressive that he's able to turn anything, no matter how small or easily explainable, into a world-spanning conspiracy. That takes creativity. And schizophrenia, but a lot of creativity!

[Minx]

Webcomic damn you!

C'mon, it'd also make it harder for them to hunt down your reports and harrass you.

[kathaksung]

I was blocked to reply in old thread by "Invalid password, please try again. " Of course it's not about password as I can start a new thread. It's a tech. trick. (I maybe blocked to post new thread later)

Here is continuation to "the Dark side of USA"http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=115871&goto=newpost

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342. Homeowner Association again (9/12/05)

To collaborate the September plot, Feds activates H.A. again. Ten days ago, I received a new notice which said,

"Enclosed you will find new procedures adopted by the Northvale Board of Directors for Dispute Resolution and Architectural Alterations....."

It announced new "Minimum landscaping requirements" which covers "All grounds visible to the public" and "Enclosed yards". It means now they will interfere the privacy of the backyards.

Of course, it came with intimidation: "Effective 60 days from the date of this letter (November 1, 2005), the Board of Directors will strictly enforce these guidelines. Owners found in violation will be subject to fines up to $50 per day until the Board of Directors is notified in writing that the violation has been corrected. In addition, the City of San Jose Code Enforcement Division may be notified in order to assist the Association in bringing a property into compliance."

The notice was from: Brad Fox, Association Manager
PML Management Corporation, 655 Mariners Island Blvd. #301, San Mateo, Ca. 94404

Three years ago, H.A. had played same trick on me. I had called that man Brad Fox several times and even wrote a certified letter to him, but never got a reply. (see "95. A notice for a meeting") Now when Feds exhausted everything, they create new procedure and requirement to persecute.

I view that PML Management Corporation as a support group work for the Feds.

What is their purpose this time? Here is another notice from City Council member Chuck Reed I received about same time. It was a free offer. "The City of San Jose is providing free Rubbish & Metal bins at each dump site for household use to dump things you would normally pay to take to the dump." The date: Saturday, September 24, 2005.(Rain or shine)

Why on 9/24? Because I don't dump the rubbish. I am afraid Feds will plant in garbage to frame a case. It used to be done by my wife.

But she will leave on 9/23 for a trip. (see "339. The September plot (9/2/05)")
A notice from H.A. forced a new requirement to clean the back yard before 11/1.
City offers a free dumping in time on 9/24.

I don't think it was a coincidence. Feds arranged me to do the dumping work on 9/24. I believe they plan a framed case on that day.

343. Killing two birds by one stone (9/17/05)

In August, my wife prepared a Burma trip for Dr. ****. (The trip was in later August) Since Dr. **** is a target of Feds. (see #242.) and Burma is a drug output source, (In 2001 secret deal between Feds and Chinese secret police, the framed drug case was started from south west China, the source was from Burma, it's obvious) I think Feds is preparing another big drug case.

Then I saw most of my family members were arranged in a trip in mid-September. A sister who wouldn't join the trip got sick. My wife was invited for a trip between 9/23 to 9/30. And I was arranged for a dumping on 9/24 which is part of a framed case.

The Feds' plan is clear. A big drug case is framed to break off on 9/24. Arrest will be carried out on that day. All other of my family members will be eliminated in a travel accident a week ago. To make the accident not so unusual, within a month there were at least four big airplane crash. And of course, if the framed case goes on successfully, on 9/24 there will be a big terror attack in US to distract. In former messages, I have repeatedly talk about this tactic. There is a similarity this time too.

Have you ever noticed that there will be a big anti-war protest on 9/24? Is that a coincidence? No, it's not. We know FBI infiltrate almost every organization. It is said the leadership of US Communist Party is controlled by FBI. Without the financial aid from FBI, US Communist Party can't survive. So it's natural that the leadership of anti-war movement are infiltrated by FBI too. Is 9/24 a particular day? No. Why it is selected for demonstration? Because Feds arranges a big terror attack on that day. It will not only distract the public attention from a framed case, but also will humiliate the anti-war movement to prove Bush is political correct.

The same tactic has been used last year in 6/19 plot. (see 6/19/04 plot at 232, 233,236, 237) Here I repeat a paragraph I wrote one year ago.

RE: 236. Help puppet Bush (6/24/04)

There are two events in June which I think were arranged deliberately at this time.
One is the Michael Moore's "9/11 Fahrenheit" will open to public on 6/25. Which will give a negative image for Bush. If there is a big bombing taking place on 6/19 or a little later, then the film will be neglected by public.

Another event was the report issued by 911 investigation commission which said there is no credible evidence that Saddam and Al-Qaida had cooperated to attack US. The panel disputes Bush's reasons to invade Iraq. It was reported by media on 6/17. This, too, could be neglected if there was a big attack taking place on 6/19.

[TheNeoninja]

way to create 3 threads in 5 mins.:down:

[Ziggy Stardust]

They're close Kath. You have done all you can, you can't post on these boards anymore for your own safety.

Hide and live to fight another day!

[W2D]

This guy again...

[SpiritOfFire]

If anyone read all of the paranoia posted by this guy, you deserve a medal :downcast:

[W2D]

Originally posted by SpiritOfFire
If anyone read all of the paranoia posted by this guy, you deserve a medal :downcast:

I was reading the old thread about a week or two ago. I got up to 20-40:bored:

[RandBlade]

Merged your Continuation ... thread with this one Kat. In the mean time, until whatever the problem is can be fixed, if you want to create your replies as new threads instead (so long as its not too often ;)) I can merge those into this main thread.

[kathaksung]

Trouble contnues. I can start a thread but can't reply in old thread.

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344. Roberts, a secret agent of D.O.J. (9/18/05)

Roberts ducked important questions Demo asked him in hearing. So at the end he is mostly a man of unknown to the people. This is a typical figure of D.O.J.: hide everything with a cover. Does everything in covert.

Is he a speculator? After he refuses to show his stand, he can later turn out to be red, or if necessary, to be blue. Or just a flip-flop. This is a typical figure of secret agent. They really have no interest in any side. They only favor what their master favors. So they have no opinion of their own.

He will be selected as the judge of Supreme Court. Because that's the choice of Inside Group. Bush is only a puppet to deliver the words. Demo Senators only played a little bit what opposition Party should do. They knew Roberts will take over the seat. All this is a drama.

But when you select a general, how can you know nothing of his opinion about war? (his excuse is he only can answer in specific battle) How can you select a CEO for the company who refuse to express his idea about economy?

When US politics develops to this point that an mostly unknown person can take such an important job, is this drama too ridiculous? Bush administration even sealed Roberts record from public.

Roberts is more likely a secret agent who will work for the Feds, (D.O.J.) and the real master behind - Israel.

D.O.J. hurriedly sent Roberts to the seat of Chief Justice is for the framed case of September 24, I think. My case is the most important one for D.O.J. since I reveal the true face (crime) of them. To frame a case, they even sacrifice both directors of FBI and DEA in a secret deal in 2001.

On 5/10/2002, I wrote "65. Birthday Party on May 3 (5/10)", revealed there was an attempt framed case on me and my family on 5/3. Several days later, my tenant and a neighborhood suddenly left.(both were from China. see #85, 86) It was until three months later when newspaper reported Ashcroft had been rebuked by judge in May for cheating the court, I then knew I was under the surveillance by FISA warrant. When judge found they were cheated by Ashcroft and FBI, they cancelled the warrant. Two Chinese secret police, my tenant and a neighborhood, had to leave.

The surveillance recovered in November 2002 when D.O.J. claimed Patriot Act gave them such power. But how could they frame an innocent man without evidence? They still need evidence to carry out an arrest.

Since then, D.O.J. tried their best to "break" the wall of "share information from foreign intelligence" with "domestic criminal law enforcement". The recent "Pentagon's information about Atta" is such an effort.

This issue must have been passed into Supreme Court. I think, Chief Justice William Rehnquist had defended the fourth Amendment of the Constitution. Thus he became the obstacle of D.O.J.. He had a cancer.

If Rehnquist's health condition was very bad, he would have resigned earlier. But he hadn't. That means he himself felt he was still OK for the job. His death was sudden. I think it was a controlled murder. I have said, "2. Control the death on will. They can make target getting sick by slow poison, once the death is necessary for Feds, what they have to do is just increase the dose, the target died to intelligence' demand without causing a suspicion." (186. Slow poison (12/6/03))

When I found there was another big framed case set up on 9/24, I revealed it on 9/2. (see "339. The September plot (9/2/05)") Next day, Chief Rehnquist died. Roberts is hurried to be nominated and said his confirmation is almost certain and will be in post in October. Because the framed case will break off on 9/24. D.O.J. needs a man of their own to guarantee the case can be set up by "sharing foreign intelligence information with domestic criminal law enforcement"

William Rehnquist's death and Roberts' nomination may signal the death of 4th Amendment that American people will lose the protection from "unreasonable search and arrest". US Justice will be ruled by an evil group.

(The 4th Amendment has been made to protect people from the "plant" of corruptive law enforcement force. That the warrant must based on evidence not the "plant". The "sharing information" low the standard to "suspicion" (foreign intelligence source) and made search and arrest possible based on "plant". see "335. 4th Amendment (8/17/05)")

345. Hurricane, a tool to distract (9/27/05)

I allege the recent hurricanes were practice of climate war. It was part of framed case plotted by D.O.J..

1. Motive: As I have said, the September plot planned to kill two birds by one stone. Hurricanes were developed to help this purpose. (The main action was terror attack)

(1) To distract the peace movement, New Orleans was drowned by flood caused by Katrina on 8/29. The tragic scene thereafter occupied the whole page and screen of media for weeks which at same time drowned the news of Cindy Sheehan's anti war bus trip that started one day later.

The national emergency rescue was deliberately delayed. Military waited three days for orders. The slow re-action is not only incompetent but a crime when a city was drowned. But this was what inside group needed. The delay of rescue could create more stories of death, loot to draw public's attention. The media even activated an accusation war of who should be responsible for the slow action All these aimed at one purpose, to divert public's attention from peace movement.

Of course for the big demonstration of 9/24, Inside Group prepared a big hurricane. Media blew the trumpet to propaganda that Hurricane Rita was shaping up to be one of the strongest Storms ever to hit the USA, exceeding even Katrina. And the landing date of Rita was exactly the same day - 9/24.

As a project to distract, hurricane Katrina and Rita was a success. There is little report about anti-war gathering. They checked up the momentum of Peace movement at the loss of thousand lives and hundred billions worth of properties.

(2) To cover up the framed case, Katrina also played an important role. My case is a big one. Feds has accumulated large quantity of real estates property in the case. To keep the value of these properties, they abuse the power to keep the long term interest rate low. Feds creates a strange phenomenon: all other merchandise were in low price which include automobile, computer, food, clothes .... except the house. To maintain a booming real estate market, they almost make the long term interest rate equal to the short term one. But all these are artificial. Once I was eliminated and they released their properties, all the restriction on other merchandise will be released too. There will be a big inflation in US then. Long term interest rate will go sky rocket. For this economic crisis, Inside Group even prepared to squeeze more from American people. They passed a new bankruptcy law for those potential victims of the coming economic tsunami. And Feds also prepared a justification for that crisis. When despaired people get angry, government will attribute the failure to the hurricanes. It damaged oil industry in Mexico Bay and caused high gas price. Everybody will believe so because they feel the bite when they pump the gas. The real cause of the crisis will be neglected. Hurricanes would be the excuse of an economy depression if the 9/24 frame case has been carried out.

Ophelia was another storm developed around 9/10 in East Coast. The newspaper said "It loitered in the Atlantic for days, and is trudging so slowly that it should spend two days on North Carolina.", "It's been very difficult to get a feeling of what Ophelia is going to do." The strange thing is here. For Rita and Katrina, the media seemed knew what they were going to do and even draw a timing route for their future movement. Why they couldn't tell Ophelia's?

I know why. Ophelia was a work of operation team of climate war. The team worked it out after they finished Katrina and then after Ophelia, they went for Rita. The task for Ophelia was to distract, (or even play a role) in a trip accident. My relatives were then in a trip in East Coast and Canada.(From 9/10 to 9/17). On 9/2 and 9/7, I continued to warn that Feds would create a travel accident to eliminate my family members. (#339, #340). To justify it, they even produced several air crash within a month. Ophelia wandered along East Coast, it was waiting for the decision of Feds. Its movement puzzled FEMA team.

On 9/15, news said Ophelia left East Coast for ocean. I knew Feds had postponed the plan of travel accident

Feds had planned the Rita even stronger than Katrina. They even put the landing date on 9/24 the action date. But it was too evident a plot after my revelation. When in final days, news changed the tones said that Rita wouldn't develop to category 5, I knew the 9/24 frame case and bombing plot went sour.

But the persecution won't stop. It goes on. (to be continued)

[carrie608]

Originally posted by kathaksung
Trouble contnues.

You can say that again. ;)
(kathaksung is back folks) :D

[Monkey_Reloaded]

Originally posted by kathaksung
But the persecution won't stop. It goes on.

:eek:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/indy_a/Signature/gundamattack.gif

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by kathaksung
Trouble contnues. I can start a thread but can't reply in old thread.

Kat, have you tried logging out? Click here to log out:

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=logout

Then log back in. Merging this thread with your old one.

[RandBlade]

Originally posted by kathaksung
Trouble contnues. I can start a thread but can't reply in old thread. I sent you a Private Message and an email - I've had no response to either and indeed the message tracking says you haven't even read the PM. Have you not read the email either?

Difficult to help you fix the problem if you won't correspond with me.

[Illusions]

I don't think the problem is of an order you can fix...unless you're a psychiatrist and know what drugs to prescribe him and how to get them to him...

:o

[kathaksung]

I sent you a Private Message and an email - I've had no response to either and indeed the message tracking says you haven't even read the PM. Have you not read the email either?

I am sorry I try to avoid private e-mail in case there is a trap. I can read your's in thread. I can describe the problem in open message.

Kat, have you tried logging out? Click here to log out:

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forum...p;action=logout

Then log back in. Merging this thread with your old one.

I followed your instruction, it doesn't work. So I still have to start a new thread.

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346. Police detain and DNA plant (10/2/05)

Although 9/24 case was postponed, new framed case developed immediately. There were two articles in Mercury News at same time.

"False arrest verdict reversed" (9/24/05)

"The federal jury in San Jose had found that officer William Foster, 37, had no probable cause to arrest Laura B. McIntyre. She was arrested after touching Foster's badge to get his identification.

US district Judge James Ware, reconsidering laws at issue in the case at the city's request, reversed his earlier decisions, disregarded the jury's verdict and issued a Wednesday(9/21) ruling in favor of Foster."

(McIntyre, who had just graduated with honors, was attending a party on 2/8/01. When police told guests to leave to a complaint, she put two fingers on Foster's badge to see the numbers. She was arrested for committing a battery.)

"Bill would force DNA collection" (9/25/05)

"Washington - Suspects arrested or detained by federal authorities could be forced to provide samples of their DNA that would be recorded in a central database under a provision of a Senate bill to expand government collection of personal data.

The measure was approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee last week and is supported by the White House, but has not gone to the floor for a vote. It goes beyond current law, which allows federal authorities to collect and record samples of DNA only from those convicted of crimes. The data is stored in an FBI-maintained national registry that law enforcement officials use to aid investigations, by comparing DNA from criminals with evidence found at crime scenes."

The purpose of two articles is very clear. To justify unreasonable search and arrest and then to frame the victim by DNA planting. DNA(a hair, skin, semen) like drugs, can be planted easily. The provision opens the gate for corrupted Feds. They can find an excuse to detain people. Then frame him in a crime case. No evidence needed. What they need to do is to declare the detainee's DNA is identical to one found in criminal scene. I believe Feds now are busy to plant my DNA in old unsolved case.

347. Abandon the Constitution (10/7/05)

The 4th Amendment was set up to protect people from "planting" of corruptive law enforcement. Feds can not arrest people simply because they can find drugs in his property. It is unreasonable search and arrest. They must have evidence the man charged had practically involved in drug case. So the 4th Amendment protect us from "planting".

I allege Feds planted drugs in my attic and garage. Twice they try to frame cases by disguising roof contractor or garage door contractor. (see "144. Roof contractor from Idaho", "300. Garage door".)

This time they use DNA plant. They say now the DNA forced test of suspects is allowed. It opens the gate of "police planting". It's easy to detain people in a dispute with police. Then to prosecute them by DNA evidence. DNA, like drugs, can be planted easily. Innocent people, while commit no crime, can be conveniently framed in a case.

Now what's the meaning for 4th Amendment?

348. "Witness" team (10/7/05)

After Feds got the bill of "forced DNA test", the rest thing was to arrange a police detain. For which they even made a judge disregarded a jury's verdict, reversed his own decision to issue a new ruling to encourage unreasonable search and arrest.(see #436)

On 9/28, I took a walk around the block. I saw an unusual lively street. A resident and a yard worker talked at the entrance of the lane. Cross street, there was a van of heater company with three people. When I turned into the side street, I saw two young men with a broken car, and a technician of AAA emergency car. There were five people walking on the path in the small park next block. There was even a lady with Arabic dress. This was the first time I saw an Arab in my community. Wah, I thought, Feds activated so large resource to carry out an arrest. When I got back to my home, a car arrived at cross street house just opposite the lane. Five people got off the car, hugging, walking around, made a noise. These people, would play the role of "reliable witness" if a police arrest carried out.

On 10/4 about 10 pm at night, I saw a towing car parked cross street. I went out to have a look. Then I saw a row of 4 cars slowly drove through. The last one was a police car. I think it was an "arrest work team" on their night shift with three potential witnesses and a police.

In recent decade, when Feds occupied most to houses of my area, it becomes a desert area. Rarely I saw a child here. When I had a walk seldom I saw a resident. Sometimes I could see one or two people walking in the park. So a sudden surge of more than a dozen people was very unusual for me. And for a quiet community (most residents are agents and their support group), a police car was a rarity too.

I believe there will be a search and arrest ready for me. It's not accidental but a well planned one. Feds even prepared a lot of "reliable witnesses" for it. Though I'll try to avoid any conflict with police, what people heard will be another story.

349. Warning (10/7/05)

People read my thread know the tactic Feds used to distract the frame case. A "terror attack" and a natural disaster to rouse the panic that will divert public's attention from a criminal case committed by Feds.

1. Symptoms of a "terror attack". On 10/6 Bush said 10 terror plots were foiled. He labels Iraq being the central battleground in the war on terror. The language he used was the strongest to date which may indicate he strongly believe there will be "terror attack" to happen to strengthen his political position.

In same day, Mayor of New York, Bloomberg, said the FBI had informed him about "a specific threat" that 19 suicide bombers planned to hit the subway system.

These are typical pre-advanced propaganda. A bombing will happen, but Feds has no responsibility. Because they have given you a warning in advance.

2. A bio-attack. This time it is avian-flu. The propaganda include with: "Mysterious 16 deaths in Canada.", and WHO said the pandemic will probably kill more than 50 million people in the world.

Two days ago Bush said to deal with such pandemic he may use troops to quarantine. For a president who was so incompetent to react to a pre-warned hurricanes, how could he be so active in a disease in which not a case is found in US?

I worry there will be a slaughter in the name of pandemic after they frame a case on me.

[xtsubarublazin]

This is so boring. Your kindergarten writing style doesn't add to its flare, either. :down:

[Mr Pepsi]

Originally posted by xtsubarublazin
This is so boring. Your kindergarten writing style doesn't add to its flare, either. :down: Amen.:up:

[Dreadnaught]

Rand left more detailed instructions in your e-mail. Check your e-mail Kat. You can reply to the e-mails here if you're that paranoid.

It makes absolutely no sense at all that you can't reply to a thread.

Rand and I aren't going to keep on merging your threads, so please make an effort to check your e-mail and follow Rand's suggestions.

[kathaksung]

Problem continues.

350. Boy George and drug charge (10/12/05)

When I wrote that the recent tactic Feds using is to arrest in the name of drug charge by unreasonable search, there was a swift re-action.

"Boy George held on drug charges" (Mercury News, 10/9/05)

Police said Boy George called 911 to report a burglary on Friday(10/8) in New York."When police showed up, they found no evidence of a burglary but did find a small amount of cocaine near a computer in his apartment." Boy George was arrested on drug charge.

The case was a framed one, I think. It was a model demonstration to instruct how Feds to act on my case aggressively. In local TV news that night,(10/9) there were pictures that residents of San Jose complained how their houses were intruded by strangers. Next day on 10/10 in the evening, there was a knock at the door. It was a young man. I didn't answer it. He took a walk in my front yard then left.

In previous two attempted frame cases, Feds tried to disguise as contractors of roofing or garage door. I had a look at these two places but couldn't find anything suspicious. It's impossible to search the garage because too much stuff was piled up there. I once puzzled that how the disguised contractor could declare they finding the drug in concealed place where no others could see. Boy George's case solved my problem. George had no motive to tell a lie to call police to his home that led to his arrest. Once police were at his home, the rest words were all theirs. It's too convenient to say there was no evidence of burglary and they found drugs near George's computer.

What they need is to find an excuse that they are legally there. So the search and arrest would be reasonable. Roofing, garage door repair and burglary were all tactics to create an invitation. To make unreasonable search and arrest legal. Once they were there, the rest story was written by themselves.

To make sure they can finish the case as fast as they can, Feds also planned individual search and arrest. For which they prepared many potential "reliable witnesses". To guarantee the success of the plan, they even murdered (I allege) Rehnquist and send a man of their own to be the Chief Justice.

351. Hurricane (2) (continue to #345) (10/17/05)

2. New Orleans was selected to be a sacrifice.
(1) Most residents there are black people. It accords to consistent deed of Feds. Black is always the sacrifice.

(2) Hurricane used to cause damage. But that's not enough to bring public's attention. To reach the aim of distract, they need news of death, a lot of deaths. Nothing can help them to achieve this goal more than to drawn a city. And New Orleans was a city fits Feds' demand. They knew this at least four years ago. The reality is exactly the same as Civil Engineering predicted.

Quote,
CIVIL ENGINEERING (October 2001 issue )
Drowning New Orleans
A major hurricane could swamp New Orleans under 20 feet of water, killing thousands.

By Mark Fischetti
http://tinyurl.com/eyrrl

(3) A news rarely reported by mainstream media:

Locals, Officials Suggest Levees were Intentionally Blown
Evidence suggests there were "cracks" in levees that were intentionally ignored, questions over how they failed.

Steve Watson, September 9 2005

Could the levees in New Orleans have been INTENTIONALLY blown out in order to provide the justification for total FEMA federal takeover?

The locals certainly seem to think so, yet, as usual, the mainstream media is barely picking up on this wave of opinion, so it is left to us once again to bring the issue into the open.

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread9413.html

3. Artificial characters of Katirina and Rita and their similarity.

(1) Timing:

Both took six days to develop from a tropical storm to a strong hurricane to land the coast. Katrina was a tropical storm on 8/24, it developed to a category 5 hurricane on 8/28 and landed the coast on 8/29. (the 6th day) Rita was a tropical storm on 9/19, It developed to category 4 then weakened to category 3 on 9/23, (as I have said, the framed case went sour so it was unnecessary to make bigger damage) it landed on 9/24 (the 6th day)

(2) Route.

Both hurricanes started from Bahamas. Both moved westwards to Mexican Bay. They marched without any hesitation. The chart shows their routes are two smooth lines.

(3) Steady development
Both two hurricanes developed in an evenly step that in final day Katrina upgraded to category 5, (Rita would have)

(4) Accuracy.

In Mercury News of 9/20, (the information must be of 9/19, when Rita was still an original tropical storm) there was a map showing the route Rita would take. It specifies the location and timing of Rita. The late development proves it was approximately correct with particular accuracy on timing.

A strong artificial hurricane needs following condition:
(1) A big operation of chemical spreading in large area for days.
(2) To form a hurricane, even with the help of chemistry, it still needs a large amount of water vapour. So it must be in an area with rich water supply. .

Mexico bay is an ideal area for such practice. (Of course, the most important thing is that New Orleans is there.) Then you see two similar hurricanes formed and moved along the coast. Far enough in the ocean to have plenty water vapour supply, near enough to save the cost of operation. They gathered strength within 6 days and moved in a direct line. Because any extra day or way out of line were unnecessary which would have been a waste. (to be continued)

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by kathaksung
Problem continues.

Kat, the problem makes no sense at all. We asked the admins. They looked at your account and said there was no reason this should be happening.

Have you cleared cookies?

Have you replied to Rand's Private Messages and e-mails?

Reply to them before you make new posts, please. It's important that you actually work with the moderators, instead of dropping in for your monthly installments without working on the problem.

[kathaksung]

352. Pre-psychological propaganda (10/22/05)

On 7/7 and 7/21, there were bombings took place in London. It was a cover up operation to justify the plotted master bombing in US. To deceive the public that these were the work of Al Qaida. The unusual events happened in same day (July 21) may prove my allegation.(see #330)

Then Feds planned a big action day in September.(9/24) They also planned an elimination of my family members and arranged a trip accident for them. To make the accident not so unusual, Feds, too, prepared a series of airplane accidents to cover up it. In three weeks from 8/14 to 9/5, there were four big air accidents.

1. On 8/14, a Greece plane crashed near Athens, 121 killed.
2. On 8/16, a West Caribbean Airways plane crashed in Venezuela; 152 killed.
3. On 8/24, a TANS Peru plane crashed in the Amazon jungle, killing 37.
4. On 9/5, an Indonesian jetliner crashed in North Sumatra, killing at least 60 of passengers. (The above information were from news of the day.)

When I first heard of Greece accident, I only impressed by the mysterious situation (lack of oxygen, frozen) before its crash. But when the Peru air crash took place, I realize it might be an operation to cover up a coming air accident. My relatives were arranged in a trip between 9/10 and 9/17. If an accident happened, it would be easily added one more to the above list and wouldn't cause any notice. That's why I talked about this twice in 9/2 and 9/7. (see #339, 340)

Pre-psychological influence is a very important tactic Feds uses. We have seen scenes such like Lewinsky scandal, Wen Ho Lee's case, WMD in Iraq..... The recent one is the hurricane Katrina and Rita. Which mainly planned to justify for a high rising inflation. So media want us expecting a gas of 5.00/gallon because most of the oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico were damaged by hurricane and so was for many oil refineries. That how much money would spend for the refugee and re-build.(e.g. 400,000 people live in the hotels and how much that costs for one day's rent) Now these kind of information are disappeared from media. Or proved to be exaggerated. What I see is the oil dropped below $60.00 a barrel.(10/26) Why, because the framed case went sour and Feds still must keep the interest rate as low as they can to maintain a high housing market.

If the framed case have went successfully, I believe you would meet another face of media. Then you would have believed that all that sudden jumping high inflation was caused by oil and the natural disaster.

The latest movement of propaganda activated by Feds is the Bird Flu. That's another psychological war to justify a new slaughter in the name of natural disaster. Watch how the media propaganda it under the command of Feds.

353. Hurricane (3) Chemical and Greece air accident (10/27/05)

When I said Hurricane Katrina and Rita were created by Feds for a framed case, there were sarcasms such like "You mean government has a weather machine?", or "to create a hurricane with a fan?". Those people, either are very ignorant, or most likely, to smear a truth on purpose. Government doesn't use an oven to produce a warm weather or use a fan to blow wind, just like they don't sprinkle the water to make an artificial rain. They use chemical. (see #218. Chemtrail and climate war)

Control climate generally means control the movement of air stream. By controlling area air pressure or temperature, people can build artificial air passage or air wall, (of course, invisible, but sometimes people saw the chemtrail in the sky) guide the air mass move to area they want. Either it is cold air mass, or warm air mass, or humid or dry air mass.

Now let's turn on to the crash of Greece air plane which I alleged one of four accidents done by intelligence. It caused my attention for its mysterious situation. Here are news about it.

Quote, "YAHOO NEWS:
Cypriot plane crashes near Athens, 121 killed
By Yannis Behrakis

A Cypriot airliner crashed into a mountainous area north of Athens on
Sunday killing all 121 people on board after apparently suffering a loss
of cabin pressure or oxygen.

"The pilot has turned blue," a passenger said in a mobile text message
to his cousin, according to Greek television. "Cousin farewell, we're
freezing." "

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=ALT.TV.LOST+FAQ+EDITION

Quote,
"Greece Plane Crash Kills All Aboard

"Shortly before the crash, the jet pilots saw one of the airline pilots slumped unconscious over the controls, ...... Some Greek media reports said fighter pilots also could see oxygen masks dangling inside the cabin."

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050814052709990004&ncid=NWS00010000000001

What took place in the Greece plane seemed as follows: the cabin lost pressure, oxygen and temperature.

But it's a Boeing 737. One of the most advanced air craft. And the plane has a well designed oxygen supply and pressurization system. So far we have never heard any problem of the insulation broken which caused low pressure that killed the people on board. This was the only one.

A spokesman for the European Aviation Safety Agency, Daniel Holtgen,
based in Cologne, Germany, said: "It is highly unlikely that the loss of
cabin pressure alone would cause such an incident. There would have to
be other contributing factors." (source, the above Yahoo News)

What were the other factors? It's a puzzle. Then it came Katrina and Rita. In a TV news report about a research plane which flew into the hurricane, I caught what the researcher said. He said he couldn't believe it that the air pressure was incredible low outside the plane. It suddenly touched off my mind. I thought Feds spreading chemical to control the pressure of air to alter the weather. If the air pressure could be created so low to astonish the researcher, (it was in open air, air would flow from other area to refill) then what would have happened if it was in a closed cabin? I thought of the Greece plane.

I think it is a chemical which is easy to gasify and easy to react with the element part of air (either oxygen, nitrogen or carbon dioxide) and developed to another substance.(either liquid such like water, or solid) Air, after losing part of its element, has lost pressure. The chemical reaction also sucks heat.

A hurricane needs a warm air mass with rich water vapor. Ocean supplies it. A hurricane also needs big air pressure difference and temperature difference above it. This chemical supplies it. That's how an artificial hurricane developed.

When that chemical is used in a closed cabin. The low pressure and temperature it created will kill the people inside it. Oxygen may be exhausted as a component in the reaction. That's what happened in the Greece air plane.

I allege Feds used the same chemical in Greece air accident as they used in hurricane creation. It's not a coincidence when I said the four air accidents was a cover up operation of Feds and Katrina and Rita were created for the same framed case.

[Minx]

Goodbyyyyye my lover, goodbyyye my friend... you have been the one, you have been the one for me

[kathaksung]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught
Kat, the problem makes no sense at all. We asked the admins. They looked at your account and said there was no reason this should be happening.

Have you cleared cookies?

Have you replied to Rand's Private Messages and e-mails?

Reply to them before you make new posts, please. It's important that you actually work with the moderators, instead of dropping in for your monthly installments without working on the problem.

Dreadnaught,

Though each time I followed the instruction of Rand, I failed to post a reply. This time I tried again, it works. I don't know why.

There is still a problem that I have to re-log in. Which means the automatic log-in lose function.

I have replied to Rand's message before.

I hope the same problem won't repeat again.

Kat Sung

[Psilon]

I've read pretty much all of your posts (really!) but I just don't seem to understand WHY the feds would do all that stuff.. just because you were involved in that drugs related incident?

Seems a bit.. silly :confused:

[Minx]

So... her name is Kat!

[Dreadnaught]

Alls I care about is I don't have to merge any more threads! :cool:

[A Philosopher]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught
Alls I care about is I don't have to merge any more threads! :cool:

You would think the frickin' feds would've caught him by now(Lord knows I wish they did). I've gotten up to 50, thats my highscore on any given day at any given time in a row. After that, I begin to lose points on my IQ:(

Edit: For anyone who thinks I believe this I don't, my first sentence was sarcastic.

[kathaksung]

354. Another air crash to cover up (11/2/05)

On 10/22, a Nigerian jet carried 117 passengers crashed shortly after takeoff. I believe it was another swift reaction to my accusation of the four recent air plane accidents.(see #352) But how could they response so quickly on same day? Because to prepare the article of 10/22, I did a google search about "plane crash" on 10/21 to collect information. The surveillance team expected I would write about their crime. To make the air crash a common events, they created another one. Nigeria is picked up as a sacrifice because it's a weak country.

In 21 days from 8/14 to 9/5, there were four big plane crashes. It was a cover up operation to justify a coming air accident planned between 9/10 to 9/17. (my relatives travel date)

The next fatal air accident in the world took place 47 days later. (9/5 to 10/22) It was a swift reaction to my accusation that the four air accidents were intelligence operation.

355. Hurricane (4): Chemical and climate war(11/2/05)

The chemical used to create a hurricane is possibly a kind of refrigerant. When the compressed refrigerant is released in air, it gasifies quickly and sucks a lot of heat. That's how a refrigerant works. When it is used in a closed cabinet, that plane becomes a cooler of the refrigerator. This was what happened in Greece air plane.

Freon was a popular refrigerant. Several years ago, scientists said it destroyed the ozonosphere and banned it. It means Freon reacts with part element of air.

To destroy the ozonosphere takes a large quantity of Freon. I think it was the result when it was used in experiment of a covert climate war. I also believe this is why Bush rejected the Tokyo treaty. The government knew they are altering the weather deliberately.

Since climate war depends on chemical spreading, how can Feds apply it on other countries? Read the news here.

Quote, "Treat of shoulder fired missiles prompts action

By steve Johnson
Mercury News, 4/8/2004

Some federal officials hope to modify US commercial planes to fire lasers, launch flares ...... fly at night with lights dimmed to foil terrorists armed with portable missiles.

While no planes in this country have come under missile attack so far, the government wants to be prepared."

A device which launches flares also can spread chemical. And how can it avoid being spotted with a chemtrail? Fly at night. All this was in the name of anti-terrorist.

Anyhow, the proposal was denied by the House due to the high cost. Then I have heard two news.

One was in newspaper. (I didn't keep that newspaper because at first I didn't realize the real meaning behind it) It said because the fuel cost was too high, commercial airline decided to reduce the flight weight. One way was to reduce the water reserve which used to flush the toilet by half.

The other one was from a TV news. It said a family was stunned when their roof of the house was broken through by a chunk of ice. Later it was proved the ice was the toilet water of a commercial plane. It said the toilet water released by air plane encountered with a cool air and froze to an ice.

My allegation is this was an experiment when a commercial plane was reformed to spread chemical. It may also prove my allegation that the chemical was a kind of refrigerant which can freeze certain amount of water instantly.

356. Tsunami, flooding and meteorite (11/7/05)

Now let's go back to Anthony Carr's prophecy again.The two paragraph without picture. (see #324)

1. Meteorite hits US. A super size meteorite will hit a desert city of America.

2. Big lake area will become a water country. Storm will sweep over the boundary of US and Canada. There will be a great flooding in Big Lake area. Few boat will survive it as Noah's Ark. Besides, nuclear explosion will cause tsunami in Cuba. Half of Cuba will be drowned.

Since I think Anthony Carr's words were no more than Inside group's project covered up by the name of "prophecy", I kept an eye on "tsunami, flooding and meteorite."

In December 2004, there came the Big tsunami. In August 2005, there came the big flooding in New Orleans. Then what about meteorite? It came in December 2004 though didn't draw much attention. Here are news about it.

Quote, "Meteor Explodes Over Jakarta
Josh Pringle
Sunday, December 19, 2004

Astronomers say a meteor likely exploded over the Indonesian capital of Jakarta Sunday morning.
Witnesses say there was a bright object with a tail of fire streaked across the sky, and then there was a loud explosion.

http://www.cfra.com/headlines/index.asp?cat=2&nid=22930"

Quote, "Unknown object falls on Indonesia
Meteor or bomb? Officials not sure, no injuries known

Jakarta, Indonesia (AP)

Indonesia air force radar detected an unidentified object falling toward the Earth at a great speed before disappearing at around the same time as the noise was heard.

Police have been on high alert in Indonesia in recent days after several Western governments reported that Islamist militants, blamed for a series of attacks in recent years, were planning more bombings."

(Mercury News, 12/19/04)

I believe it was an experiment of space weapon. A practice of a missile cruised in space to hit the target on earth. But a missile is not a meteor. Everything would be clear if there was an investigation. That's why the news drew a tail, to hint it might be a terrorist bombing. But they could make people believe that without any practical exercises, (hundreds of hours at least, I suppose) the students of flight school could actually drive a modern plane to hit any target they wanted. It's still hard to ensure people that Bin Laden also has a space weapon. So we never hear anything further about that meteor.

It's not a coincidence that both events which Anthony Carr prophecied (tsunami and meteor) took place in Indonesia, almost at same time. (12/19/04 for meteor, one week later, on 12/26, for tsunami)
Because two months ago, in October that year, Yudhoyono became the President of Indonesia. Inside group then had a safe place to carry out their experiment for new technology under the protection of a puppet dictator.

What about the flooding? Eight months later, we saw Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by kathaksung
354. Another air crash to cover up (11/2/05)

On 10/22, a Nigerian jet carried 117 passengers crashed shortly after takeoff. I believe it was another swift reaction to my accusation of the four recent air plane accidents

:haha:

You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you.

[Illusions]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught
:haha:

You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you.

Don't start...he'll start thinking the clouds in his coffee are actually government attempts to kill him using drinks laced with poisons...

:o

[xtsubarublazin]

Kath, why DO you post this stuff here of all places?

[Illusions]

Originally posted by xtsubarublazin
Kath, why DO you post this stuff here of all places?

He posts it on every internet forum he is a member of...that still allows him to post.

:o

[xtsubarublazin]

What a waste of time.

[Illusions]

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-27,GGLG:en&q=kathaksung

[xtsubarublazin]

Is he launching some futile attempt to convince everyone the government is out to exterminate humanity or something?

[kathaksung]

Same problem again. The log out tactic won't work any more. Have to start new one. (Maybe they don't want people read the old messages?)

357. Another attack from D.O.J. (11/12/05)

There was an article in San Jose Mercury News on 11/9/05.

"Court debates privacy in searches by police
By stephen Henderson, Knight Ridder

Washington - The love lost between Scott and Janet Randolph worked to the advantage of police in summer 2001, when authorities investigating a domestic dispute between the two asked to search the couple's Georgia home.

Scott Randolph said no. His wife said yes, and police went ahead on her consent. Tuesday, the Supreme Court weighed whether the subsequent search - in which Janet Randolph led them to drugs that resulted in her husband's arrest - was unconstitutional.

The case is the latest in a long line of opportunities for the court to refine the scope of permissible searches under the fourth Amendment. But the question involved - how much privacy can anyone expect in a home they share with someone else - inspired a surprisingly animated debate among the justices. ......

The Georgia Supreme Court sided with Randolph, throwing out the drug evidence that was recovered during the search.

Randolph's position seemed to draw support from several justices, especially Sandra Day O'Connor, who emphasized that the court does not decide search cases by acknowledging shared property rights, but by determining what is socially acceptable. ....

Randolph's position also ran into harsh criticism from several justices, though. Chief Justice John G. Roberts suggested that when you decide to live with someone, you give up some rights to privacy."

I will say this is another effort of D.O.J. to encourage agent to commit an unreasonable search. In August when there was a wave to attack the wall of information sharing between foreign intelligence and domestic criminal case,(the real purpose is to bypass the fourth amendment and to low the standard of search and arrest for law enforcement agent) I had a feeling D.O.J. was going to attack the constitutional right for civilian. I wrote six articles about it. (see #335. 4th Amendment (8/17/05), 344. Roberts, a secret agent of D.O.J.(9/18/05), 346. Police detain and DNA plant (10/2/05), 347. Abandon the Constitution (10/7/05), 348. "Witness" team (10/7/05), 350. Boy George and drug charge (10/12/05))

This case proved my worry was not uncalled for. If it passed in D.O.J.'s way, then it will not only damage the morality of a marriage, (will people since then to pre-sign a contract to prevent a possible hurt from their spouse before their marriage?) and will also destroy the last castle of their privacy - their own home.

This news also proves my accusation on the new Chief Justice - Roberts is true. I said in #344 that he is a secret agent of D.O.J.. His comment on this case proves he doesn't work to protect the civil right of the American people. He works for the interest of D.O.J..

358. New secret deal (11/17/05)

California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is now on a six day trip in China. He had planned his visit to China in this May but cancelled the trip later. I think it was because I revealed he was on a mission for a secret deal for the Feds. (see "303. April plot and secret deal (4/12/05)", "323. Arnold's role in recent plots (6/22/05)")

Will this trip a different one? I think it is on same purpose. A new plot is planned. Arnold is sent to confirm the secret deal. The soured old plot is replaced by new one. But the content is the same. Big event happens to distract the framed case. Natural disaster breaks out to cover up a mass killing.

On 11/14/05, Arnold Schwarzenegger arrived in Beijing, China.

On 11/15/05, Mercury News reported:
"China
Terror threat warning issued by U.S. consul

The U.S. government is warning of a possible terrorist threat to American facilities in the southern Chinese city of Guangzhou.

The warning was sent out by the U.S. Consulate in Guangzhou. "

On 11/16/05, China Confirms Human Bird Flu Cases
Government Races to Stop Spread of Deadly Virus
By JOE McDONALD, AP

BEIJING (Nov. 16) - China reported its first human cases of bird flu on the mainland Wednesday, including at least one fatality, as health workers armed with vaccine and disinfectant raced to inoculate billions of chickens and other poultry in a massive campaign to contain the virus.

Also Wednesday, Vietnamese authorities reported bird flu outbreaks in three more provinces, bringing to 12 the number of cities and provinces affected recently. Vietnam is in the middle of a campaign to destroy all poultry in most of Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi, its two biggest cities

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20051116075909990010

The confirmation of the bird flu will cost a lot for China. It means to vaccinate billions of poultry and slaughter millions of birds. Plus the coming mass killing and economic loss when the pandemic outbreak. It is also a rarity that China allows a "terrorist attack" to be taken place in its land.

All these indicates that China has got a big compensation in the secret deal.

The possible action date likely will be on Festival (Thanksgiving, Christmas or New Year's day) when there is a family re-union.

[Dreadnaught]

It worked two weeks ago, why not now? I would say "You aren't pushing the right button", however this appears to be all you do, so that can't be the case.

When you say "they", do you mean me?

[kathaksung]

Dreadnaught,

To your question, "they" means surveillance team of Feds. Not necessarily you.

I had tried the "quote" function, logout tactic. All didn't work.

---------

359. "Withdraw from Iraq" is a gimmick (11/22/05)

This morning when I was out to pick up the newspaper, I didn't see the cars which used to parking across the street. I went out the lane to have a look and found there was another lively street. It was the second time I saw it recently. The last one was on 9/28. (see 348. "Witness" team (10/7/05))

In place where last time I saw a van of heater company, there was a white truck. I approached it and found it was a Camcast engineer car. Then I found another Camcast truck parked at side street. A painter was working on the house. Several cars drove quickly from the street. The noise broke up the quite atmosphere of the community.

I was still on slippers so I went back. I saw a container truck parked at the other end of the street. Some people seemed doing loading work. Such kind of aggressive surveillance meant some big case would happen. I think Feds is framing another big drug case on 11/24 when there will be a Thanks giving family re-union.

For that case, as I have said, there will be a bird-flu pandemic. Especially in my area. They even prepared for a quarantine.

Re: "Businesses get bird-flu warning
Prepare to have employees work from home, official says

By Steve Johnson

Businesses need to prepare for a possible bird-flu epidemic by education their employees to minimize any spread of the flu and encouraging them to stay home if an outbreak occurs, a state health official warned Thursday. " (Mercury News, 11/18/05)

Another one is a terror attack. It may happen in several places. One is in HongKong. As FBI director R. Mueller had warned one year ago. Feds has intention because my wife's relatives living there. And they have got it ready.

And US will not be exempted. If you have noticed there is a dispute between Demos and Republicans about Iraq war in these days. That's a gimmick the Inside group used to play.

Last June, when Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 911" was going to the cinema, the Inside group prepared 6/19 terror attack to discredit the film. This September, when Feds prepared a 9/24 terror attack, they organized a big anti-war protest in Washington, intended to humiliate the peace loving people in a large extent.

For this 11/24 terror attack, they prepared a "withdraw from Iraq" drama in Congress. If the attack takes place, Bush and Cheney will be heroes. How correctly they were to start the Iraq war and resist the opposition from Demos.

The planned terror attack, will frame Iraqis in. I am too familiar with this Inside group.

360. Internet harassment and censorship (11/27/05)

In recent months, I suffered a lot of harassment in internet. In some sites, my articles was reformatted. Sentences were randomly inserted and replaced in article, made it hard to understand. Or fake messages were posted assuming my name.

When I applied to be member of new sites, the confirmation e-mail used to be intercepted so that I could not post because of inactive membership.

I also was banned from some sites where I had posted for years.

All these indicate that Feds is activating a large movement to restrict my messages from other people. It only proves my revelation is too true. Feds can't bear it.

Don't be surprise if one day you failed to find my new message, (or even can't find the old messages) The American censorship is on the way.

361. Storm is now a killing tool of Feds (11/27/05)

Back to 9/24 framed case. In "#342. Homeowner Association again (9/12/05)" I talked about How Feds arranged a trip for my wife between 9/22 to 9/29 so they could frame me in a special "9/24 Neighborhood Cleanup day". Then what would happen to my wife while she was in South east Asia?

They prepared a trip accident.

My wife told me a lucky story when she returned. The travel group would tour Haloon Bay in Vietnam on 9/27. Some big boss in the group gave up the tour with the excuse they must attend a meeting or just plainly said they were afraid of the typhoon. Only a few tourists went with my wife. But the typhoon miraculously left the Haloon Bay a day before so they had a nice boat tour.

On 9/30/05, there was a picture in Mercury News which shows a woman walking through rubble caused by Typhoon Damrey. "The worst storm to hit Vietnam in a decade. Officials said Thursday they had recovered 38 bodies so far."

I think there would be a "boat accident caused by typhoon" on 9/27 if the 9/24 framed case went on successfully. The luck for my wife was not a nice trip but a safe one.

[Dreadnaught]

Wait, you're pushing quote? Maybe don't use quote...put "Reply" :weird:

I can assure you that this board is not under the control of the FBI.

[Monkey_Reloaded]

Originally posted by kathaksung

In recent months, I suffered a lot of harassment in internet. In some sites, my articles was reformatted. Sentences were randomly inserted and replaced in article, made it hard to understand. Or fake messages were posted assuming my name.

When I applied to be member of new sites, the confirmation e-mail used to be intercepted so that I could not post because of inactive membership.

I also was banned from some sites where I had posted for years.

All these indicate that Feds is activating a large movement to restrict my messages from other people. It only proves my revelation is too true. Feds can't bear it.

Don't be surprise if one day you failed to find my new message, (or even can't find the old messages) The American censorship is on the way.


It's safe in my reply box. :heart:



:confused:

[BetaTestAdmin]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught
Wait, you're pushing quote? Maybe don't use quote...put "Reply" :weird:

I can assure you that this board is not under the control of the FBI.

Really ;) Then why are my initials B.T.A.? Oh wait, FBI....B, uh T...A...? Ok nevermind, you're right :sour:

[tsbatth]

wow, i was studying for a midterm and i jus wasted like over an hour reading this. Very interesting, this man seriously must have problems but quiet amusing none the less, i'm going to be checking this everyday to see what new stuff hes come up with. Maybe i can plagerize some of his stuff to make a cool movie :D

[DarkWorlds]

Just so you know, his current stats are...

Pages: 365
Words: 173,680
Characters (no spaces) 813,917
Characters (with spaces) 986,189
Paragraphs 3,875
Lines 16,635

This is just his story, not any of the comments he has posted with you guys... dang...

[Dreadnaught]

How long did it take you to compile that? :bulb:

[DarkWorlds]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught
How long did it take you to compile that? :bulb:

heh, copy paste through 32 pages here isnt to bad.

Im fixing up how its all linked. I may provide a download. As well as a blog for this guy. Im thinking about updateing the word file once a week with a title page with linking terms.

This is so f'ing funny though :)

Of course in the file, the credit would go to him, and I would link to the first place i say this, which is here ;)

Dread thx for not killing this thread ages ago. Im up to reason 200 or how every hes labeling it.

[tsbatth]

hmmm, he hasn't replied for a while, im still waiting to see how this turns out :confused:

[Monkey_Reloaded]

Four and nearly a half years.
He could sell his ideas, and they really would make an awesome movie, imo. :bulb: :confused:

[Dreadnaught]

Originally posted by Monkey_Reloaded
Four and nearly a half years.
He could sell his ideas, and they really would make an awesome movie, imo. :bulb: :confused:

Are you kidding? It would be the worst movie ever. This thread is the worst thread ever. :bulb: That's why it's the best thread ever :noob:

Upon further contemplation, I think that Kat is probably pushing the "edit" button to add new posts instead of the "post reply" button.

It's the only thing that makes sense. His account is broken and he's the only one with this problem.

The only conclusion is idiocy.

[littlelolligagged]

This thread already is a movie, well sort of. I can't remember the name of it, but Patrick Stewart played an old man who thought that someone was out to get him. Of course, in that case someone really was out to get him ... okay maybe it's not so relevant after all.

[Nae'Blis Sedai]

Originally posted by DarkWorlds
Just so you know, his current stats are...

Pages: 365
Words: 173,680
Characters (no spaces) 813,917
Characters (with spaces) 986,189
Paragraphs 3,875
Lines 16,635

This is just his story, not any of the comments he has posted with you guys... dang...

Or you could just check...

http://hometown.aol.com/kathaksung/myhomepage/profile.html

[Ziggy Stardust]

Originally posted by lillolligagged
This thread already is a movie, well sort of. I can't remember the name of it, but Patrick Stewart played an old man who thought that someone was out to get him. Of course, in that case someone really was out to get him ... okay maybe it's not so relevant after all. You don't mean Conspiracy Theory do you?

Because Partick Steward was the meanie in that one chasing the charismatic loony Mel Gibbon.

Maybe you need some 'gravy for the brain' :)

[littlelolligagged]

Originally posted by Ziggy Stardust
You don't mean Conspiracy Theory do you?

Because Partick Steward was the meanie in that one chasing the charismatic loony Mel Gibbon.

Maybe you need some 'gravy for the brain' :)
No, although I liked that one. It was something like Safe House I think. I saw it on a bad broadcast tv station in the middle of the night.

[Tarhalindur]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught
Are you kidding? It would be the worst movie ever. This thread is the worst thread ever. :bulb: That's why it's the best thread ever :noob:

Upon further contemplation, I think that Kat is probably pushing the "edit" button to add new posts instead of the "post reply" button.

It's the only thing that makes sense. His account is broken and he's the only one with this problem.

The only conclusion is idiocy.

Actually, I've recently started to get a similar error, but in a different thread (Roll Call in MOO3 General Discussion). So far, the Quote button is working just fine for me there, however...

Oddly, there is an interesting similarity here: in both cases, the malfunctioning thread appears to be the thread in which the affected user made his first post! :eek:

[Dreadnaught]

I would posit that it's because the threads are long...but then we have the "When you die" thread, which breaks all possible predictions of thread length or sanity.

[Tarhalindur]

Originally posted by Dreadnaught
I would posit that it's because the threads are long...but then we have the "When you die" thread, which breaks all possible predictions of thread length or sanity.

Not to mention Pirates of the Dwarf Cove,, which works just fine for me. :o

[tsbatth]

kat come back to us!

[kathaksung]

362. George Bush's Jury work (12/2/05)

About three months ago, I was going to shopping by tram. In tram station I found the ticket machine went out of order. Since I was under 24 hours surveillance I didn't want to take any chance. I decided not to board on tram without a ticket so I left. Just then a man in working uniform came to the station. He said he worked for the Public transportation. He checked the machine to my complaint then suggested me to board on the coming tram, said he could be witness that it was not my fault.

I later think it might be a trap. A staff arrived at the most opportune movement. He could be the one who disabled the ticket machine. He came forward when I hadn't fallen into the trap.

When the persecution intensifies recently, I abandoned the tram. I rarely go out. Especially I found they prepared the witness team. (see "348. "Witness" team (10/7/05)")

Then I saw a series of articles to instruct the arrest team how to conduct an (unreasonable) search and arrest, emphasizing the trick to search a home. (See "
346. Police detain and DNA plant (10/2/05)", " 350. Boy George and drug charge (10/12/05)" and "357. Another attack from D.O.J. (11/12/05)". Be noticed that these were all published after the 9/24 plot went soared.

The latest one took place yesterday. TV reported that Bush got a summon for Jury duty. Once again the Headquarter instructs the local team how to operate. This trick is not new for me. Same drama acted three years ago. (see "69. Juror summon (6/16/02)" and "71. Police violence") On the purpose to force me out.

To make the instruction a reportable news, Feds used to manipulate the celebrities. Boy George, President George were used like a toy.

All these aggressive work indicates one thing: American will face a big economic downturn next year. Don't be deceived by rosy picture painted by media. Don't be duped into the recent rising stock market. It's artificial. I predict there will be a big inflation, probably starting as early as January. The continuation of interest upwards is inevitable. Feds try to finish my case so they can get rid of the real estates still in their hands, before a market collapsing take place.

363. A day to day persecution (12/7/05)

About ten days ago, my daughter said her students group had a project which needed a board to be cut to the demanded size. A father of her classmate was helping them. But he had only hand saw and wanted to borrow the electrical saw from me. Since persecution is intensifying these days, I was afraid agents would play trick on the saw. I told my daughter she could brought the board home, I would cut for them. That's the end of story. I never heard anything about that project since.

Several days later, last week I heard my daughter telling my wife that a friend would give her a fitness cycle. I worried it was an aggressive planting. Agents used to carry out their plan by "free gifts". But I could do nothing to stop it.

Then on last Friday morning(12/2), I saw the mini-van my daughter used to drive parked at the lane. Through window I could saw there was a fitness cycle inside. I walked to the street. I found there were at least three neighborhoods were cleaning their front yard. It was a scene I rarely have seen before. I came back, found there was a flat tire on mini-van and knew why.

I think my original opinion about that fitness cycle is very correct. Agents have planted it with drugs. They also made a flat tire. If I opened the back door of mini van to pick up the tool and spare tire, there would be an arrest. These rare seen neighborhoods would either be undercover agents or "reliable witnesses". Of course I left the flat tire alone.

In the evening, there was a dispute between my daughter and I. The dispute ended when I told her I thought the fitness cycle was planted with drug .

On Sunday morning (12/4), my brother came to replace the flat tire. The fitness cycle was not in the car. My daughter might have moved it to her room on Saturday.

On Monday morning (12/5), I found the water pipe in front yard was broken. Water spilled out from a crack of the soft pipe. I hurried to switch off the spring tap and found it was damaged. So I went for intermediate switch. It was damaged too. I had to switch off the general water supply to stop a flooding.

The mini-van was driven to a store on Monday. It was left there overnight to replace a new tire. I think the framed work will go on. It seems they damaged the water switches to force me out to buy the parts. Feds must have planned new planting in the car. It's a day to day work now. When one plot went sour, they started another immediately. To finish the case so Feds can sell the houses before a market turnover. The big inflation may be only a month away.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Aren't you that guy who thinks the feds are after you? :weird:

[Zezima]

ROFL:haha:

[ShipperS7]

http://hometown.aol.com/kathaksung/myhomepage/profile.html

His page :rolleyes:

[BGTB2005]

Someone please tell me why the government would waste money to put an individual under constant surveilance.

[tsbatth]

lol he did come back when i asked!!!

The mini-van was driven to a store on Monday. It was left there overnight to replace a new tire. I think the framed work will go on. It seems they damaged the water switches to force me out to buy the parts.

no thats just called cheap mechanics that ripped you off

[Dreadnaught]

Kat, I'm glad you're using public transportation. After all, with your heart condition, you shouldn't be driving.

But where the hell in America do you live that has an honest-to-Allah tram system?:confused:

Also, Kat, you'll note that we're having an upgrade next week. Your account and thread will be fine, but if you come back here and everything looks different, don't be scared and post that the upgrade is a conspiracy to track you down.

[littlelolligagged]

Originally posted by BGTB2005
Someone please tell me why the government would waste money to put an individual under constant surveilance.
They wouldn't. :bored: If they wanted that indivdual for anything at all, the lovely (saracsm) new homeland security laws would make it possible for them to simply lock the individual away forever without ever charging the individual with anything.

[BGTB2005]

This might interest kathaksung. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10488458/)
The surveilance started after 9/11.

[Dreadnaught]

Predicted stories of the next month from Kat:

1) Bush allowing wiretaps for no other reason than to track Kat

2) White forum layout embedded with isotopes to burn his eyes and give him cancer. Isotopes calibrated so that they only harm him and not us.

[Ziggy Stardust]

His sig still cracks me up. The mental 'mage' of the phonecall that is :)

[Psilon]

He should have taken the blue pill, not the red one :(

[Lor]

He should have taken the blue pill, not the red one :(
:haha:

I forgot about this thread. To funny.

[BGTB2005]

Predicted stories of the next month from Kat:

1) Bush allowing wiretaps for no other reason than to track Kat

2) White forum layout embedded with isotopes to burn his eyes and give him cancer. Isotopes calibrated so that they only harm him and not us.

:haha:R:haha:O:haha:F:haha:L:haha:M:haha:A:haha:O:haha:

[BGTB2005]

355. Hurricane (4): Chemical and climate war(11/2/05)
...I also believe this is why Bush rejected the Tokyo treaty...

Last school year, my science research teacher told the class that there was no readily available alternative energy source for the U.S., which was why Bush rejected the treaty.
Oh, and, sorry for the double post.

[kathaksung]

Someone please tell me why the government would waste money to put an individual under constant surveilance.

A man witnessed a murder case. Even that man is a homeless, the murderers will try their best to kill that witness.,

If you have read all my revelation, and these revelation are all true. You still have this question?

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364. Cover up tactic (12/12/05)

When Feds carries out a plot, they used to perform some similar incident to cover up the main one to blind people. That's why when I saw four big air crashes took place from 8/14 to 9/5, I thought they would have a major one targeting at my relatives on their 9/10 trip.

The other reason support my allegation are motives and suitable conditions.
1. The Greece air crash. The plane took off from Cyprus, a divided island occupied by Greece and Turkey. If it was proved a perpetration, Turkey would be the suspect. And as I alleged, it also was a test of new killing weapon.

2. The Columbia plane crashed in Venuzuela. The passengers were mostly French. Since the invasion of Iraq, France is the most hated country of Inside group. Feds even planed to crash Eiffel Tower with plane. (see Anthony Carr's prophecy)

4. Indonesia's air crash. That's the most evident one. The president there was a puppet agent. He might be benefit politically from the crash too, like what happened in tsunami. The governor of Sumatra was on board the crashed plane.

3. I couldn't find any reason for the crash of Peru plane. On 10/22 in "352. Pre-psychological propaganda" I illustrated four accidents as the work of Feds. 12 days later, Alberto Fujimori, the former president of Peru, was arrested in Chile. No one has a clear idea why he jumped on a private jet on Friday, Nov 4, and zoomed off toward Santiago from Japan. I think he was set up in a trap. He became a compensation to Peru from Feds after I have revealed the truth. Fujimori was a most wanted by Peru government.

Similar secret deal were seen between China and US. Peng Ming was arrested in Burma in May 2004. **** Bing Zhang was kidnapped in June 2002 in Vietnam. Both are famous dissenters of China. Both had their base in US. And both were delivered to Chinese government in a third country where they thought they were safe.

In late November, media had a report that Singapore would execute an Australia whom was found carrying heroin. I didn't take much notice at it at first. But when I saw another topic "UK, US nationals arrested in Singapore" (for drugs) 2 days ago, I remembered Dr. ****. His wife has relatives in Singapore and they often go to Singapore. He was a target of Feds too. (see "242. Dr. **** is a target ")

The sudden rising topic coincides with the aggressive persecution of Feds these days. I worry it may be another plot by using a real case to cover up a framed case. The secret police of Singapore had a tight relationship with US'.

365. Low interest rate and role of Japan (12/17/05)

Federal Reserve raised the bench mark rate to 4.25% at the purpose to poke off the bubble of housing market. The later the bubble breaking off, the severe the economy will be hurt. But what troubles Greespan is his operation doesn't work. The 30 years mortgage rate stand firmly at around 6.3%. Because main factor which influence the 30 years fixed mortgage rate, the long term bond rate keeps in low. The 10 years US treasury note is around 4.5%. The latest rate on 12/16 is 4.44%. It's only a 0.19% difference between the interest rate of 10 years bond and Federal overnight rate. If the ten years treasury note stays at that level, then when Federal Reserve changes the overnight rate to 4.5% next month, the short term interest rate will equal or pass over the 10 years long term rate. Is it absurd?

This phenomenon is created by Feds. (D.O.J.) They drove two big buyers to invest on US treasury note in large scale. Thus to keep the long term bond rate low which eventually leads to a low mortgage rate. Because Feds (FBI and DEA) hold a lot of real estate property. Why they don't retreat from this market? Because my case haven't finished. It's also why there is an intensify day to day persecution on me these days. The economy situation is worse and worse for them.

Who are the two big buyers? China and Japan. Since there is a historical deficit in US current account, dollar faces a devaluation. It's very unwise to invest on US treasury note at this time. Then what makes China and Japan to do so?

There is no free lunch in the world. D.O.J. bribed the two countries to do so. The payment to Japan is its sovereignty.

Japan was a defeated country in Second World War. It is still under occupation of US army. Though Japan is an economy power, it is a political pygmy. Especially in military. Probably it was the only one suffered from atomic bomb. Its military re-build is tightly controlled by US. Now the restriction on Japan are released gradually.

1. On 9/10/2004, Japan officially declared its Navy found a nuclear submarine invaded its territorial waters. On 9/12, Japanese government confirmed it was a Chinese nuclear submarine. Koizumi's government lodged a diplomatic protest and demanded an official apology. It was contrary to the restraint attitude Japanese used to have. Media said the same water had been intruded before by Chinese submarines. Japan never complained. From military point, army used to keep silence at such events to avoid exposing its anti-sub ability. Then what made Japan start a high profile conflict with China? D.O.J. was behind it.

I alleged so because on 9/9/2004, a young anti-Japan writer was found dead in her car. Iris Chang, famous for her book "The rape of Nanking", was said "suicided" by a gun shot. Despite female rarely suicided with gun, there was no motive for Iris Chang to finish her life at 36. She was a "woman in supreme control of her successful, hectic, perfect life: bestselling author, wife of an engineer husband, mother of a young son, and spokeswoman for a growing movement to seek reparations from Japan for World War 2 atrocities." (Mercury News, 11/11/04) She was writing another book about the Japanese in Philippine in World War 2 when she died.

Of course, if it was done by Feds, they prepared an explanation. Media started a wave of reporting that she had depression which "few had known". Maybe when there was no available motive, "mental illness" is the best outlet. She was said left a "will" for her husband before her death. The note was computer printed.

Media also reported many people didn't believe the "suicide". If successful people such like Fiorina was just selected to be HP's CEO, or Arnold Schwarzinneger was just "elected" Governor of California, Or George Bush in May 2003 when he said "mission is accomplished" in a carrier, would they suffer a "depression"? Some people suspected it was done by Japanese rightist. They were wrong. They don't know the principle of game. It must have been done by its own intelligence. Iris Chang, died as part of a payment to encourage Japan to stand up against China. Next day after Chang's death, Japan started a diplomat conflict with China. (to be continued)

[Zezima]

LOL kath you kill me with your crazy conspiracy stories.

[xtsubarublazin]

Kath, what do you think about the new forum layout? Conspiracy? :bulb:

[kathaksung]

Kath, what do you think about the new forum layout? Conspiracy? :bulb:

I don't see any reason to change the layout. Will you tell me?

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366. Low interest rate and role of Japan (2) (12/22/2005)

Since both directors of FBI and DEA stepped down from their posts in June 2001 because they authorized to sign a secret deal with China, D.O.J. changed its way of making secret deal. They let celebrities to promise a deal without a signature. Such like Ashcoroft in Moscow, Rice in Moscow and Beijing, Mueller in Bejing, and Bush with Chinese Presidents in international meeting. Same thing took place in Japan in 2004.

On 9/9/04, a popular anti-Japanese writer Iris Chang died of a gun shot.
Next day on 9/10, Arnold Schwarzenneger had a visit to Japan. On same day Japanese government declared its territorial water was intruded.
On 9/12, Japan demanded an apology from China.

It was an evident deal. So far as I know, Arnold had made three open visit abroad after he became the Governor of California.

1) On 5/1/04, he visited Israel and Austria.
2) On 9/10/04, he visited Japan.
3) On 11/14, he visited China. see "358. New secret deal (11/17/05)'

The first one was a "thank you" visit for let him to be the Governor of California. The later two were to be representative of D.O.J. to promise secret deals. Although all these visits were in the name of "promoting trade".

2. US supports Japan to be a permanent member in Security Council of United Nations. This will largely promote the diplomatic and political position of Japan in the world. Japan starts to work actively this year on this issue.

3. Re-build Japanese military.
In later October this year, the Japanese ruling party passed a resolution to change the Constitution. The present Japanese constitution is known as a Pacific Constitution which was done under the direction of US occupation troops. It abandons the military method to resolve international dispute. Now Japanese wants one of their own.

The Asian countries are alarmed by Japanese movement. They think this is the first step Japan to re-build its military. People rarely know this is the result of a secret deal. US media almost censored such kind of news. Have you ever noticed that two weeks ago was the anniversary of Pearl Harbor event? It passed quietly like it has been forgotten.

Japan, with its money, in a rare chance, starts to buy back its military and political power from the Inside group of US.

367. China's role and the payment to it (12/27/05)

China not only invested its surplus dollars in US financial market, it is also a major partner with D.O.J. in the plot of framing a big drug case. The payment paid to China is huge.

The first big one was the membership of WTO in 2001. Chinese economy since grew so rapidly that it is now the sixth economic power in the world. Then when D.O.J. exhausted its resource such like sacrifice the dissidents, it sold Taiwan's independence.

There are two big parties in Taiwan. One is Nationalist Party which insists "one China" policy. The other one is Democratic Progress Party which wants independence. Of course, an independent Taiwan is on US' interest. So we saw in last decade, the former ruling party N.P. was torn apart and at last lost its regime. D.P.P. took over the reign power of Taiwan on 2000.

But that trend changed in late 2003 when Taiwan became a chip in secret deal between US and China. (see #206, 254, 255, 293, 296)

In April and May, twice Arnold Schwarzenegger had planned to visit China. I warned in advance that he was for a secret deal with a bribe of 25 billions of pension fund investment. (see "303. April plot and secret deal (4/12/05)") He thus postponed his visit and that investment plan has never heard of since then.

It was replaced by another deal. It was Taiwan. In late April and early May, two major opposition leaders, Lien Chan and James Soong, visited mainland China. It was a big step forward for the unification and put the pro-independence President Chen Shui-bian on the defensive.

Furthermore, Chen Shui-bian's life became a chip too. While James Soong was in China, the Taiwan's President was invited to a small island country in Pacific Ocean. The country was so backward that there was no airport big enough for the landing of a Boeing. Chen Shui-bian had to take an old hydroplane in a neighbor big island. I also was impressed by the report that he was entertained by a personal sail with the Island President. There was wind. The sea was rough. The wave was big. President was wetted. He compared the rough sea with his Political life. He didn't know the rough sea could become dead sea for him if a framed case went on successfully in US.

I didn't keep the newspaper (Part information was from TV) because at that time I thought the unification visit of Taiwan's opposition party was the only payment. I didn't expect the Inside group would sacrifice a President's life whom work for it. I only realized it when the similar case repeated later.

[Dreadnaught]

So Arnold only made the Governor of California because of Israeli and Japanese interests? Cool! :up:

[xtsubarublazin]

I don't see any reason to change the layout. Will you tell me?



:confused: What? Didn't you notice the new colors and themes?

[Dreadnaught]

He notices. But he doesn't think it was needed.

BTW, Kat, you can make this board look more like the old one by selecting the Classic color scheme in the lower-left corner.

But then again, what do you care? You only come here once a month and you've probably seen hundreds of forums.

[Dattu]

Kathaksung, if the government is tracking you, why should you bother to tell us? I mean, we're only a body of random people who can do nothing to help you. If you're screaming for help, we can't hear you. Maybe the US doesn't want you in the country. Maybe they're monitoring your Internet activities. Maybe they know that you're a regular on the board. Maybe this is all a scheme to have you 'willingly' move to a foreign country. Maybe I'm an operative to point out what you should already know. Maybe I'm just disguised as a fellow message board-goer. Who knows?





You don't.

[Firebert]

actually my uncle is in the CIA, he used to work on spy satellites, but now he's gone to higher level of secrecy, monitering you.

(two out of three of those statements are true)

but seriously, i've been telling him about you, he seems pretty interested.

[BGTB2005]

Next thing you know, when there is a power outage in his area, Kathaksung will think it's an attempt to ferret him out...

[Moridin00]

... **** Bing Zhang
I thought this was a brand of fireworks? :confused:

[BGTB2005]

I think this might be related..... (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10740935/)

[tsbatth]

<3 kath

[kathaksung]

Kathaksung, if the government is tracking you, why should you bother to tell us?

You don't.

So, those who protest the secret spying should not complain? You prefer to read only the paid news favourable to government?

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368. Pirates the Constitution right (1/2/06)

Bush defended his domestic eavesdropping program was "targeted known Al-Qaida members or associates and involved intercepts of only a few numbers in the US." This is a quibble.

1. If it was about Al Qaida, why bypassed FISA? FISA warrant is easy to get.
And there is reason to believe Al Qaida was under surveillance already. What is the work for CIA? How do they spend the huge budget on intelligence? Consider Al Qaida is illegal in every country and was in escape in caves. (what government said)

2. Who gave Bush the right to ride over the Constitution? Secret eavesdropping means unreasonable search and seizure which is against 4th Amendment. When the administration authorize themselves the right to search and arrest, then what's the difference from a totalitarian? Bush will be the similar figure like Saddam.

3. Bush is a villain who used to extort people by "terrorist". He had intimidated US into an unjust war by "WMD", "imminent danger". He now blackmails Americans by "saving their lives". Step by step, he rips off the civil right from American people and turns US into a totalitarian country.

4. Beware of another "terror attack" activated by Bush's group to justify his illegal action.

369. D.O.J. wants unlimited power (1/2/06)

Though Bush tries to put the argument in the name of "we are in the war, saving American's lives", his real purpose is to legalize unreasonable search. The real commander behind him is the Department of Justice.

1) US citizens are protected by the Constitution. If government wants to put you under surveillance, they must apply for a warrant from the court with evidence.

2) FISA(Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) is in low standard. Government can apply a warrant based on suspicion not evidence. But there is a wall to prevent it to be used in domestic criminal case. Because there is big difference between suspicion and evidence. And we have seen how D.O.J. hates this wall and activated waves of attack on it.

3) What happens now is government even abandon the court system and issue warrant by themselves. That's how Bush authorizes the domestic eavesdropping. If that goes through, then it's a totalitarian. The government can do whatever they want to do. There is no check and balance to this power. America loses it's principle of foundation.

You will understand a series events happened recently if you read the above analysis. Why a FISA judge resigned to protest. Why Bush defended his spying policy again and again. Why D.O.J. hastily start to probe the leak on spying program.

A typical sample is Padilla's case. Padilla was held without charge for three years. Now government dropped former "dirty bomb" allegation and tried to deliver him to domestic criminal court with other charges. A typical "arrest without evidence" then to transfer him to a domestic court which needs evidence to arrest. D.O.J. tried to establish a case to break the wall which is set to protect American people.

370. The corrupt D.O.J. attacks (1/2/06)

The purpose of 4th Amendment is to protect people from evil activities (set up, plant) of corrupt law enforcement agent.

If corrupt official plant fake evidence at your home. (gun, drugs) And asked for a search warrant. Judge would asked him for evidence. The corrupt official couldn't say:" Because I suspect it." That's how domestic criminal law requires. It depends on Evidence not suspicion.
The official also couldn't say, "I knew it because I had a search already." That's unreasonable search. (warrantless search) It's illegal.

FISA standard is low. Law enforcement official can request a warrant on suspicion not evidence. But there is a wall to forbid it be used in domestic criminal law. Otherwise 4th amendment will mean nothing.

Corrupt officials plant fake evidence at your home. Then apply a warrant from FISA. Say they suspect you are a terrorist. They get a warrant then found the "evidence"(gun, drug) at your home. That's how the 4th Amendment bypassed. A foreign intelligence method is used in domestic criminal law. Though D.O.J. said Patriot Act gave them such privilege, there is at least a FISA court watch their behavior.

Now they even don't need a FISA approval. They authorize themselves the right to search and arrest. To give the order to search in name of save lives of citizens. Is it for "security" or rather, abusing power? When it goes, the Constitution means nothing. It allows unlimited power of police search and arrest. (to be continued)

371. The revenge of D.O.J. (1/7/06)

Bush is only a puppet. When his illegal activity was revealed, his master jumped out to protect. Instead of investigating Bush's unconstitutional action, Justice Department starts to probe the leak of spying program.

It seems they assume nobody knows that US government is eavesdropping on its citizens. As a matter of fact, it's a common sense that FBI and other intelligence are spying on us in a broad range. We know there are Carnivore, Echolon..... There are so many information about secret eavesdropping. Have you ever seen the investigation from D.O.J.? The money spent on secret spying is huge. Are these enormous organization only deal with a few Al Qaide? It's a joke to think that Al Qaida won't alert that they may under surveillance if they communicate with an electronic system. Even innocent Muslim and non Muslim Americans would think their communication be intercepted by big brother.

What the leak of spying program will hurt? It only proves the long existing suspicion of secret spying is true. That Bush did something illegal.(unconstitutional).

The following is an information known by public. The time is Jan. 1st 2001. Such kind of knowledge was common sense. Similar information were popular in internet then. But it didn't point to Bush and D.O.J.. So nothing happened. Now D.O.J. jump their feet on the leak of "secret spying". Is that funny?

Re: SPYING ON US
BY JIM WILSON
Illustration by Paul DiMare
Published on: January 1, 2001

The secret is out. Two powerful intelligence gathering tools that the United States created to eavesdrop on Soviet leaders and to track KGB spies are now being used to monitor Americans. One system, known as Echelon, intercepts and analyzes telephone calls, faxes and e-mail sent to and from the United States. The other system, Tempest, can secretly read the displays on personal computers, cash registers and automatic teller machines, from as far as a half mile away. Although the inner workings of both systems remain classified, fueling exaggerated claims about their capabilities on Internet sites, credible detail has at last begun to emerge. It comes chiefly from foreign governments that began investigating American surveillance activities after discovering that the Echelon system had been used to spy on their defense contractors. From those documents it is possible to obtain the first accurate view of the threats high-tech spying poses to our right to privacy. We think you will agree it also creates a real and present threat to our freedom.

http://popularmechanics.com/science/military/2001/1/spying_on_us/


372. Justice Department to probe Leak on Spying Program

There are two kinds of leaking.

1. The leak was done by Feds itself to revenge at their dislikes. Such like "Watergate"case. President Nixon intended to reform D.O.J.. Then there was a deep throat to leak a scandal. Nixon had to resign the job. D.O.J. never did an investigation because it was done by itself. An FBI agent.

Or the Plame's case. D.O.J. never did an active investigation on it. Because the person likely is a member of Bush's administration.

Re: Nixon's case: (the references are two articles I have posted before. I re-post for your convenience.)

295. Who controls D.O.J.? (3/7/05)

Former President Kennedy was assassinated. Former President Clinton was impeached. All these revealed that even in top position, US politicians are under the control of intelligence. They were under the surveillance. They were extorted, blackmailed by intelligence. If they disobeyed, then they were punished by scandal, or even been assassinated.

Former President Nixon was almost impeached. He lost his post in oval office in early 70's. The formal reason was he lied to cover up a tape which might reveal his awareness of illegal campaign activity. But lie and dirty campaign activity were common among high ranking politicians. It was only an excuse. Then what was the real purpose?

In March 2002, a news helped me resolved several puzzles. It was a tape of Nixon's conversation with former treasury secretary Connally.

Re:
Quote, "Nixon Defended Envoy's Groping
1972 Tapes Also Reveal Talk of a Justice Dept. 'Full of Jews'
By George Lardner Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 1, 2002; Page A02

"Oh! Oh, God!" Nixon said with a sigh. "It erodes our confidence, our strength. They're untrustworthy. . . . Look at the Justice Department, it's full of Jews."
"Any place of power," Connally agreed. "SEC used to be -- all of them, those lawyers."
"Listen, the lawyers in government are damn Jews," Nixon said.

Both men agreed that Nixon should try to reduce the Jewish influence in a second term. Nixon told Connally on May 15 that he wanted no more than 2 percent of the government's political appointees to be Jewish, in proportion to the population. He later said 10 percent would be acceptable, "but certainly not 30 or 40 percent."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20361-2002Feb28.html

I then knew who control Justice department and why Nixon lost his job.
Nixon realized that there was a disproportion of government political appointees to the population. He thought it was not for the interest of US and tried to change that situation. He faced an impeach and had to resign before he could do it.

Now I know why Sharon said, "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, to Shimon Peres, October 8th, 2001

Israel controls D.O.J.. D.O.J. controls FBI. And FBI keep Americans under surveillance, include Presidents.

2. If the leak was done to reveal the scandal of Feds or Bush administration. Then they did an active job to revenge at the purpose to silence it. Justice Department to probe Leak on Spying Program belongs to this one. It's an intimidation on lawmakers to pass the Patriot Act because it will terminated in five weeks.

Re:
89. Polygraph law makers (9/25/02)

In early June, a news said the conversations between Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and Mohammed Atta were intercepted by NSA. It said in two separate conversations on Sept. 10, 2001 contained the phrases "Tomorrow is zero hour" and "The match is about to begin.". Since these two phrases are vague one and consider NSA intercepts 2 million conversations in each hour, the pick up of these two phrases was not a coincidence. It proves that Atta was under surveillance by government earlier before 911.

Then FBI said it was a secret intelligent information which shouldn't be let out public. They are investigating who has leaked it. They target on law makers and even request a polygraph.

But who will investigate the secret information leaking committed by intelligence itself?

When the news said Atta made contact to Iraq diplomat in Czech and talked about bombing plot, it leaked that Atta and Iraq diplomat were under surveillance and it leaked Czech intelligence was cooperated with USA.

There is another similar news release. By February 2001, NSA had broken the bin Laden's communications encryption system. What we know from the information government released is that OBL talked to his mother two days before 911 attack, "In two days, you're going to hear big news, and you're not going to hear from me for a while." It let people know that Bin laden's communication was under surveillance as long as 6 months before 911. And his communication code was broken.

Nobody could release such information but intelligence. Though the original purpose of news about Atta and Iraq diplomat was to target on Iraq to frame it linking with 911 terrorist, so administration could have excuse to start a war with Iraq. And the news of Bin Laden's intercepted conversation was used as a legal base for Bush to start war in Afghan. These information leaking are as important as the Atta's "Tomorrow is zero huor" one. Why FBI had a blind eye on these leaking? Because they were released by intelligence?

The secret information leaking FBI accused of took place in early June, at a time when lawmakers and 911 victims were going to investigate failure of intelligence of 911 attack with an independent commission. It could be a trap intelligence set. They use this method to retaliate, or extort law makers to avoid investigation on their own flaw or crime. Or try to reach a compromise.

If we don't know these "secrecy", we will believe what government said that they had known nothing before 911 attack. "Secret" is only a stonewall they used to cover up their corruption.

[BGTB2005]

If I had the time and patience, this Thread might make for an interesting read....


And Kat, If you're that paranoid, why do you post here? Any one of us could be an agent supposedly tracking you down....

[Steely Glint]

Anyone else starting to take the side of the "Feds" here? :bulb:

[Dreadnaught]

Re:
Quote, "Nixon Defended Envoy's Groping
1972 Tapes Also Reveal Talk of a Justice Dept. 'Full of Jews'
By George Lardner Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 1, 2002; Page A02

I see, so Nixon was taken out by the Jews, who in turn are the puppet-masters of Bush :confused:



Now I know why Sharon said, "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, to Shimon Peres, October 8th, 2001

Sharon never said that. It's a often-repeated lie.


When the news said Atta made contact to Iraq diplomat in Czech and talked about bombing plot, it leaked that Atta and Iraq diplomat were under surveillance and it leaked Czech intelligence was cooperated with USA.

Dude, that news turned out to be highly questionable and doubtful...

[CitizenCain]

TO:

Able, Handler, J.S.O.P., Team Alpha 8

CC:
Mr. William B. Black, Jr., SCES, Deputy Director, N.S.A.
Porter J. Goss, Director, Central Intelligence Agency
Richard B. Cheney, Vice President.

BCC: Scotty Liebert, Chief Liaison, Special Operator Handling

Report # 1102006867-OEP/SO

As stated in every report over the previous 5 weeks, I object, for the record to being assigned ****-canned duty for allegedly impregnating Jenna Bush. Anyone in the agency knows that the real father could be anyone in the agency, and Jenna claimed to be on the pill. This matter has been referred to my delegate, and I expect to be returned to normal duty by week's end.

Surveillance op continued in full force this week. Cover as ex-Army officer back stateside from service in Iraq has held up. Surveillance indicates that subject has uncovered D.O.J.'s plans to assume dictatorial powers, in addition to the Zionist involvement in Nixon's impeachment. Operator believes that subject should be upgraded to class A threat status, and necessary measures be taken. Further recommend a high level meeting with Israeli statesmen to allow for damage control. Recommend increased censorship of Washington Post and Popular Mechanics to prevent future leaks of classified materials.

Special Operator Team Beta 17 is ready for deployment to achieve these objectives; currently awaiting D.O.J. authorization. Given the subject's proposed increased threat status, Operator recommends that this authorization be fast tracked.

Furthermore, due to both the subject's increased threat profile and technical difficulty, Operator requests deployment of new equipment and an additional Alpha team. As reported in the briefing on 01/03, the microwave ray continued to experience technical difficulties. It is believed that this may be due to counter measures implemented by subject. The metal sheets subject has erected in residence are reflecting back microwaves and causing the magnetron to malfunction. Yesterday, these reflected rays shorted out the magnetron and directed a lethal burst of microwaves into subject's neighbor's cat. Sanitation of the scene was difficult, as half of the cat became splattered on the walls. Scene was successfully sanitized before the residents returned home. However, given this latest close call and continued difficulties in microwave assassination, Operator recommends Team Theta 4 have its now defective microwave ray cannon replaced with the SRJ-4506/Gamma Ray Cannon. Subject's counter measures will not be effective against gamma radiation, and the increased lethality of the Gamma Ray Cannon should allow for a quicker resolution to this growing threat.

Finally, this week's drop will have to be delayed by 150 minutes, to maintain cover. Drop location for this week will be Delta 6, at 02:40 local time, on the usual day.

Operator Cain, out.

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[Dreadnaught]

:haha:

It all goes back to Jenna...

[Lor]

Anyone else starting to take the side of the "Feds" here? :bulb:
Yup, this crazy ass needs a padded room and a straight jacket. I'm not ****ing joking, if my father saw this thread and looked at his paranoia he'd stick him up for mental evaluation.

[Lor]

Jesus H Christ. I never knew Kathaksung was a forum *****. Google search indicates this person MUST have a e-STD.

[littlelolligagged]

http://www.googlism.com/what_is/k/kathaksung/

kathaksung

kathaksung is paranoid about cia
:haha:

[kathaksung]

Dude, that news turned out to be highly questionable and doubtful...

When you want to use it, it's honest and believable. Otherwise you will change a face....

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373. Extortion by scandal (1/12/06)

From Water gate, Chandra Levy to Abramoff, scandal is a tool to extort politicians by D.O.J.. A series of scandal broke off recently. I allege it was targeted at Supreme Court Judge nomination.

Bush had nominated three candidates for the vacancy of Supreme Court. Among them: Roberts and Alito are typical agents of D.O.J. Harriet Miers is a 'yes lady' who is similar to Clarence Thomas. All of them will judge to the order from D.O.J. not to the principle of the Constitution.

Roberts was nominated in early September and was confirmed in 9/28. He took oath on 9/29. During the hearing, on 9/24, a big title was on news: "Probe into Frist stock sale expands". Frist was the Senate Majority leader. Then the scandal spread to the House Majority leader, Tom DeLay. He was indicted on 9/28 by a conspiracy charge.

In October, the news of DeLay's case, Frist case and CIA leaking case (Rove and Libby) were mixed with the nomination of Harriet Miers. Harriet Miers gave up at last. It ends with the indiction of Cheney's aid: Libby.

There was a silence period in the end of the year for scandal and Supreme Court nomination. Then both came back in January. Alito goes into hearing on 1/10/06. Six days before his hearing, Abramoff scandal became top news on 1/4. On 1/8, news reported that Rep. DeLay abandons bid to keep GOP leadership.

Bush's nominee obviously are the representatives of D.O.J. not the Republicans. So there is opposition from the GOP. That's why the scandal targeted at the Republican politicians. Of course there are D.O.J.'s agents in Demos. But if they vote against their party opinion, their real face will be exposed. So the extortion this time aimed at GOP. To create a false appearance of a struggle between two parties not by a dictatorship. The fake mask of "democracy" has to be maintained.

374. A covert totalitarian (1/12/06)

The point is to control the Supreme Court. When Alito replaces O'connor, D.O.J. will control the majority votes of the Supreme Court. Thus they can justify the secret spying by the approval of Supreme Court.

Roberts was proved not work for the civil right but for the interest of D.O.J.. (see #357. Another attack from D.O.J. (11/12/05))

Alito is the same. Re: "Analysis shows Alito favours authorities"
" In one case, Judge Alito said police did not violate the rights of a mother and her 10-year-old daughter, who were strip-searched during a raid of a drug dealer's home."

"A Knight Ridder analysis of more than 300 written opinions by Alito, for example, reveals that he has almost never found a government search unconstitutional and that he has argued to relax warrant requirements and to broaden the kinds of searches that warrants permit."

You can expect under such a Supreme Court, what kind of judgement Americans will have. The administration will take over the power of legislation to authorize themselves the right to spy on its citizens. They will bypass the court system to search and seize without warrant.

US is proud with its democratic system: three independent powers check and balance. But now there is only one power left: the administration. The core is D.O.J.. D.O.J. controls law makers by scandal and election. It also sends the representatives of its own to control the Supreme Court. When they can do whatever they want to do, they think they are the "God". A name always referred by Pat Robertson and Jorge Bush to justify the power abusing.

375. Aggressive harassment in Internet (1/17/06)

Every week I receive "Oversize VMail" notice from vodafone.com. It said, "Your VMail message has been blocked as it is too large for Vmail. Reasons Could be that a footer may be automatically added by your company's Mail System."

I don't have a company's mail system. It must be a plant. I occasionally send a personal e-mail to the editor or administration of a web-site to complain a posting problem. I used to keep a record of the sent e-mail. I always send the mail with my real name because I know I am under 24 hours surveillance by Feds.

I think my computer is under the control of a surveillance server. So all the other fake mails assumed my name or my mailing address must have been from the cyberspace team of Feds. One obvious thing is that I almost have never received any reply from these web-sites. Either their reply, or most likely, my e-mail, were intercepted by the surveillance team and had never reached to the destination.

There is also an aggressive harassment in posting.

(1) Change the font size of letter. They made the characters smaller. Thus the messages was hard to read. It is used in MSN system and some other systems.

(2) Misplace the sentence. e.g. to put the first sentence of the article on the bottom to make the message hard to understand. It happens in care2.com.

(3) Change the format. The paragraph used to be separated by an empty line. But in hunting.com, this function disappeared.

(4) Re-direction. When I clicked on "reply", the page turned up was another unrelated one. So I had to abandon the original thread to start a new one. It took place in atari.forum . The problem lasted for months. It was resolved at last when atari.com changed a new layout system.

Then in this month, in freedominion.ca, both "reply" and "new post" logo don't work. I thus am banned to post technically. In atari.forum, people at least knew what happened by new post. Now they killed both. Nobody knew what happened.

(5) Blot the function logo. Made it difficult to post. It happens in aol.com, delawareonline.com.

(6) Temporary block. This took place in many sites. Why I say it's a deliberate harassment? In NewYork Times forum, I posted other message without problem. But when I try to post the message "371. The revenge of D.O.J. "and "372. Justice Department to probe Leak on Spying Program", I failed many times. It succeeded only after days' insistently work. I think because NYT is the one who revealed secret spying and I speak out that D.O.J.'s probe of the leak is a revenge.

(7) Ban to the web-site. The page used to be:"You do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
You do not have permission to access the page that you were trying to. Are you trying to edit someone else's post or trying to access administrative features? Check that you are allowed to perform this action in the Forum Rules.
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation."

This used to block the complaint, too. I can't access the site to find an available e-mail to complain. So I doubt it was done by surveillance team in the name of web-site. Because my messages are serious discussion, won't violet the rule.

One proof is I was twice showed the above page by BaltimoreSun.com. Though under the pressure of Feds, some sites will follow the order to ban, to my experience, no media will do that. From their career, free speech is very important. They won't do unreasonable censure. Some media would rather close their forum than to censor me. I tried in later days and found I can access the forum without problem. The "ban" page is only a convenient tool used by surveillance team whom followed me all the time.

Another proof is prwatch.org. It changes into a new site. But both sites work. I posted in both sites. Then two weeks ago, I was showed the above page in old site. I have no problem to post in new site. It doesn't make sense. The only explanation I have is Feds want me to post in new site. Probably they have particular formula installed in new site which makes censorship covert. (such like "ignorance", it makes you feel your message was posted while others can't see it)

So when I saw the same page "you don't have the permission ...." in courttv.com. I think it was another censorship from the Feds in the name of web site. My message is too true to let more people to know.

In 47 days (from 12/1/05 to 1/16/06) I recorded 10 such internet harassing. Six out of the ten took place in six days.(1/6 to 1/11) The time was coincidence with Abramoff scandal.

I think Bush's secret spying (a search warrant issued by himself without court) was on me in the name of Al Qaida. After Bush was criticized ignoring the law, D.O.J. activated another raid to seize the Supreme Court. The purpose is to justify Bush's secret spying.(warrantless surveillance) I can feel their arrogance when they thought their plan would come true. On 1/10, aliensoup.com gave me such a page:

"You have been banned for the following reason:
None
Date the ban will be lifted: Never"

A typical manner of D.O.J.. "I am the God. I don't need any reason from starting a war to eliminate a man." (to be continued)

[Dreadnaught]

When you want to use it, it's honest and believable. Otherwise you will change a face....


So...basically you admit that you take and fake news for your own purposes. Well, at least you're honest on that one.

[aoshi]

There is no dark side of the U.S. As a matter of fact, it's all dark.

[kathaksung]

376. New censorship law (1/22/06)

I received an e-mail notice which said:

"STRAWWW posted a message to you in Imperialism on Delphi Forums
The subject is: Shocking New Censorship Law
To read that message and others in the same discussion, go to:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/imperialism1/messages?msg=1252.1

Annoy someone online--two years in jail?
By Declan McCullagh, January 9, 2006,

It's no joke. Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity.

This ridiculous prohibition, which would likely imperil much of Usenet, is buried in the so-called Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act. Criminal penalties include stiff fines and two years in prison.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6024695.html

It is the leading message of a new thread.. New thread generally open to all for discussion. This thread directly addressed to me. I think this is an intimidation from Feds. Two provisions in Patriot Act are designed particularly on me. (see 334) So it's not uncommon they proposed another law to deal with me. This is the advantage of D.O.J..

I learned this in Mid January. I felt the absurd new law was probably direct on me so I wrote #375 in case there is a framed case. The e-mail notice proved my doubt.

377. Bin Laden acts on behalf of Bush (1/22/06)

Bin Laden's new tape is obviously a disinformation made from Bush's "Psychological manipulating office". On the purpose to smear anti war movement.

Read the following words from bin Landen. It's almost what Bush administration and its spokesman McClellan wanted to discredit their critics: "Un patriot, help enemy..."

Re: "The voice on the tape said he was directing his message to the American people after polls showed that "an overwhelming majority of you want the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq but (Bush) opposed that desire."

He said insurgents were winning the conflict in Iraq and warned that security measures in the West and the United States could not prevent attacks there."

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060119102809990008&;ncid=NWS00010000000001

This is exactly what Bush group needed.

Consider Bin Laden always responded to Bush's needs: when Bush wanted to start war in Mid-east, there was 911. Be aware 911 was activated eight months after Bush was selected to be the president. And this time, when Bush is revealed to spy on its citizens without court approval, and may face an impeach, Bin Laden comes out again to help. "I, the terrorist is here. Bush is right to start war against me. If you oppose this war and Patriot Act, you are helping me and Al Qaida."

See how he reacts just on time as if he has got an order from Bush.

Be careful there will be another terror attack, manipulated by US intelligence in the name of Al Qaida. Just like 911, Bali bombing..... This time is to save their puppet Bush and Patriot Act (which will expire in two weeks.)

I think this is a part of another big operation just like 9/24/05 plot. (The plot noticeable for manipulating the climate weapon, hurricane.)

378. The new plot planned to carry out in late January and early February.

1. 1/29 is Chinese New Year's day. Chinese family traditionally re-union in their new year Festival. Feds like to take advantage of such occasion: either a re-union or a family group travel.

2. The new censorship law was signed on 1/16. I think the ridiculous censorship law was particularly designed for this Jan/Feb. 2006 plot, especially on me.

3. The harassing in Internet started from 1/6 is going on. I was blocked to post in a few web-sites by technique problem. It obviously is a part of this big operation.

4. The extended Patriot Act will expire on Feb. 3. Feds try to finish the case before its expiring.

5. The hearing of Alito finished a week ago. Anytime from now on D.O.J. can send an agent of their own into the Supreme Court to control the majority. So the framed case, if it violates the law, still can pass the Supreme Court without problem.

6. A big "terror attack" in US. (probably multi "terror attacks" globally) It was justified by "Pakistan air raid" and Osama's tape and Zawahiri's tape. Please notice that the media deliberately make the "Air raid in Pakistan" a big issue by the "protest from Pakistan government", the controversies of "civilian's death" and "the death of high ranking Al Qaida" to ensure people that the coming terror attack is a revenge of Al Qaida. To emphasize it, they even activated Bin Laden and his vice.

7. Another anti-Bush protest is organized on Jan. 31 all over the country and on Feb. 4 in Washington. It plays the same role as the anti war protest on 9/24/05 . When they prepared "terror attack", Feds always keep in their mind not to miss the chance to humiliate the anti-war movement and the civil rights group.

379. A crime in the name of a noble cause (1/27/06)

Bush stole breads from the grocery store. When the store owner accused him of stealing, he defends that he is to save the lives of hungry people. What he hasn't told you is that he could have done it legally: he could buy the bread instead of stealing.

Bush administration repeatedly argued that he did it under a noble cause: to save the lives of American people. He avoids to tell you that this noble cause can be done in recent system: he could have applied for a court warrant.

A theft is a theft. It won't be legalized under a noble cause. Bush blows trumpet these days to persuade people that he has the right to spy on them. How can a thief so confident for the crime he committed?

1. His master D.O.J. assured him he will be supported by Supreme Court. After Alito being sent to the Supreme Court, D.O.J. totally control it. Alito's nomination will shift the court to the right. For the real Democrats, they should fight for their idea with filibuster. D.O.J. apparently will have their agent jumping out to perpetrate, despite that will tear off their agents' fake mask. For Republicans, Alito is also a threat to their opinion. Alito favors a powerful administration. That's against GOP's opinion of a small government. Many Republicans also don't think the President is above the law. Now review message "373. Extortion by scandal". How correct I point out the Abramoff scandal is targeting at GOP politicians to force them escorting Alito to the seat of the Supreme Court judge.

2. Intelligence support. On time, there will be a "terrorist attack" to justify Bush's spying program. The CIA's Pakistan air raid, Bin Laden's and his vice's tape is a prelude of this plot.

3. Media support. Today, Mercury News reported: "53% approved of eavesdropping without warrants "to reduce the threat of terrorism.(New York Times/CBS News poll of 1,229 adults Friday through Wednesday)". I have said that media is controlled by the Inside group. They used to manipulate public's mind by faking poll to justify a rigged election or other plot.

Is US still a home of braves and the land of free as media always say? Or brave Americans become cowards who give up their freedom to the intimidation of terrorists (or more likely, the Bush administration in the fake mask of terrorist)?

380. What an "eavesdropping" really mean.(1/27/06)

Do you think the agents only limit to eavesdrop your phone? Do you expect terrorist will say, "You bomb the Golden gate bridge tomorrow morning at 9 o'clock" in communication? It maybe words such like, "Tomorrow will be zero hour. The real match will begin." But was it more likely about a football match or a boxing show? How do you save lives by listen to these vague words? If you think with brain, you know the matter is not that simple limited only to a secret "eavesdropping".

A warrant of "eavesdropping" means much more. With it agents can start a search on "suspects". A search on your home, your financial records, tracing, interview your friends.... This is something government and media never tell you.

To my experience it means much more. The harassing in Internet. The car trouble. Feds create car trouble so they can install instrument in the car to eavesdrop or tracking when you send it for repair. Feds block the drainage to create a flooding to see if you have valuable things to hide, property problem..... Finally, to prove they are correct, Feds plant, frame, murder to eliminate evidence.

A lot of people may have encountered such problem without aware of truth because Feds are professional criminals. But our founding father know the danger of power abusing from internal. They made the Constitution to protect us from the corrupt official. That's why a court search warrant is so strict which demands evidence.

D.O.J. uses a beautiful decoration to violate the law. If it succeeds, the foundational Constitution bypassed. Civil rights will be seriously damaged. Terrorists may kill a few people but can't rob the freedom from Americans. Bush is worse, he took away the civil rights from all citizens. He is more danger than the terrorist.

(I suffered a harassing of slow procession internet. I think it is part of the framed case I talked about in #378. I may be not able to post on time.)

[carrie608]

Hello again!! :p

[garcia_y_vega]

I'm glad that this is on the front page, it made my day! :D

[BGTB2005]

I might be able to read this thread of crazy conspiracy theories over summer break......

I think you fit the description of an overly paranoid person, Kat......

[CitizenCain]

Lies, all lies!

Hey, you're not the real kathaksung... I assassinated him for the CIA 8 days ago.

[kathaksung]

381. Destroying files (2/2/06)

On 2/1/06, there is an article in Mercury News. "File-destroying worm expected to attack Friday". (By Anick Jesdanun, AP) Which said the worm, known as "CME-24," "BlackWorm," "Mywife.E," was set to activate on Feb 3. Obviously this cyber attack belongs to the "Jan-Feb Chinese New Year" plot. (see #378)

I have warned several times that there would be internet attacks coming with the framed drug case. There is an insistently harassment and censorship on me since I started to post in internet. Now Feds even developed a worm to destroy the files.

Why do they chose Feb. 3 to activate the worm attack? Because it's Friday - the garbage collection day of my street. To plant in garbage cart is one of their frame tactic which had also been used in 9/24 plot.

A typical case this time is: A drug case to frame me and other family members in. At the same time a terror attack to distract. To divert the public's attention for a period, a bird flu pandemic will spread which will also eliminate other people who know the story. After the panic of disease passing over, no trace of Kat Hak Sung left. Any information in internet will have been destroyed in a cyber worm attack.

I am harassed by Feds these days by slow processing. Sometimes it took 20 minutes or more to post a message. If I can't post on time, then something evil happens.

382. The life of the President of Taiwan as a payment (2/2/06) (continue to #367)

The second attempt to murder the President of Taiwan: Chen Shui Bian, was another boat cruise in mid 2005. He was escorted to an island near Taiwan to claim sovereignty. I still wasn't aware of that was a murder attempt. I only felt strange. If he wanted to be popular, he could go to another island - Diao Yu Tai. It is a big issue between China and Japan for the controversial land sovereignty. Why did he pick up an island which people rarely heard of?

I realized he was a chip in secret deal in early October that year. In later September, Chen Shui Bian was in South America, visiting several countries there. In his open procedure, Chen would go back to Taiwan via San Francisco. But his group made a dramatical change. They flied to Abu Dhabi. The Taiwan delegate was invited by an Arabic country. Chen Shui Bian said it was a diplomatic success.

Then on his way back to Taiwan, the President's plane stopped in Bali, Indonesia in the morning of 10/2. Because Taiwan was bracing a strong typhoon Longwong. The coincidence was, 13 hours ago, Bali was hit by the second bombing. One of the bombing area was Jimbaran Beach where there was a lot of high class shop and five star hotel. Not far from President's rest place.

I think if the 9/24 plot succeeded, the President of Taiwan would have died in the second Bali bombing a week later. (to be continued)

383. The cross murder deal (2/7/06)

On 1/20, news reported "Bin Laden says new attacks are coming."
On 1/30, "Al-Qaida's No.2 threatens new attack in US.
On 2/1, "File-destroying worm expected to attack Friday(2/3)". I think the "terror attack" and internet attack were part of the framed case with which the last date was set on 2/3. The day when the Patriot Act would expire.

Anyway, the "terror attack" didn't happen. The "File-destroying worm" didn't cause trouble. Because the plot went sour. So the Patriot Act in which two controversial sections were designed on me(see #334) had to be extended for another 5 weeks to cover the persecution case.

Five weeks is short. So the framed case will go on aggressively these days. On 2/6, I learned that the "terror attack" Feds planned was a big one. It will occur globally if the framed case going through successfully. On 2/5, news reported "Urgent global security alert set by Interpol for escapees." Which said 23 people escaped from a Yemen prison last week. Among them there are Al Qaida who had bombed US Cole in 2000 and the other one who had bombed a French tanker in 2002.

I have long alleged those attacks were done on behalf of the Inside group. Either to provoke a war, for a power or for other interest. I don't believe it was easy to escape from a prison. Especially these people were dangerous prisoners, should be in a jail with high security. Bin Laden and his vice are the most important escapees. We never heard there is an Interpol alert on them. They are said to be trapped in the border area of Pakistan and Afghanistan. The newly escapees from Yemen are low ranking accessories. How can they have the ability greater than Bin Laden to go everywhere in the world?

I don't think it's a coincidence the escape took place at this time. It will be used to justify the planned plot. I think some terror attacks will happen in European countries to inflame an indignation against Islam countries and plays cover up to the main ones. I strongly allege there will be one happening in HongKong. The Interpol alert is a psychology propaganda for it.

My father in law passed away on 3/25/2004. Within a month, my wife's uncle - **** Ke Li - got a stroke on 4/21/2004 and died 9 days later. Mr. **** Ke Li was a celebrity . He had a securities company in Hongkong. I alleged both two were the victims of Feds. FBI director R. Mueller had a visit to Beijing in Mid April 04. This meant there was another secret deal being made between the secret police of US and China. Mr. **** Ke Li was a member of Chinese Politics Consultative Conference. It is an organization for display to show others that Chinese government is democratic. The members used to be celebrities. Mr. **** Ke Li's death obviously was the result of R. Mueller visit. About at same time, when Mueller on his way back to US,(4/22?) he announced that Hongkong would be attacked by terrorist as a financial center. I thought it aimed at Mr. ****'s securities company so I wrote the message: "223. FBI director said HongKong will be attacked (4/24/04)"

Mr. **** Ke Li had two sons. (they are my wife's cousin) One is Dr. **** who lives in US. I found he became a target of Feds and had talked about this several times. (see #242, 364) The other one lives in Hongkong and is a celebrity there too. He is a member of Hongkong's legislature. His name is **** Yi Hong.

To kill a celebrity in Hongkong needs a big payment. I finally find the payment is the life of Taiwan's president. To achieve this, China even allowed a regime change in Hongkong.

[Dreadnaught]

Kat, are you saying that the President of Taiwan is the one who forced you to sell those guns to the Columbian drug lords?

[-NGS-]

its obvious that he isnt even reading the replies, or else he would have defended himself after being called a "forum *****" and "paranoid".

this is all stupid to me. i didnt bother to read the whole first page. this man seriously is government paranoid.

[Dreadnaught]

He used to defend himself more, but then THE MAN began to track him with more intensity.

Now he only has time to post his rantings and run, run, run for the safe room!

[Master[\/]][[\][)]

Man is thread still going?

Hey Dread, what do you think would happen if you tried closing the thread?

[aoshi]

This thread is a classic!

[littlelolligagged]

this is all stupid to me. i didnt bother to read the whole first page. this man seriously is government paranoid.
It's hilarious.

[marnetmar]

There is an insistently harassment and censorship on me since I started to post in internet. Now Feds even developed a worm to destroy the files.


I am harassed by Feds these days by slow processing. Sometimes it took 20 minutes or more to post a message. If I can't post on time, then something evil happens.



So the Patriot Act in which two controversial sections were designed on me(see #334) had to be extended for another 5 weeks to cover the persecution case.

Please lay off the crack,meth, or whatever it is you're on. I think you're getting way to paranoid/delusional & should seek medical help very soon.

[BGTB2005]

I wonder if he has Visa or Mastercard, a bank account, a driver's license, and has yet to cut power, phone lines, and water to his house, sell his house, and move to a cave.

[Dreadnaught]

][[\][)']Man is thread still going?

Hey Dread, what do you think would happen if you tried closing the thread?
Some moderator last year didn't get that most people enjoyed his insanity and didn't take him seriously, so he warned him. You can find it in this thread. Kat said that it was either a mistake or the feds trying to stop him or somestuff like that :haha:

He had some problem where he claimed he couldn't post in this thread and that it was probably harassment....I'd rather keep all of his nonsense in one thread, so I'll keep it open. I think we can predict exactly what he would say if we closed it :p

[BGTB2005]

Raise your hand if you think it's odd that kathaksung is posting on an internet forum, where he can get his IP tracked (I think:confused:), when he thinks the government is after him.

<Raises hand.>

[Lor]

The thing that bothers me is the fact this is spamming regardless of the insanity or the smiles it gives you. If this was anyone else they would have been banned long ago.

Kat has no interests in discussing his stupid theories, he makes no attempts to even act like this is some form of CC.

I come across one of his posts in another forum about how he thinks his wife illness (simple little virus) was down to the feds or something, he went on and on about it and until someone said basically 'hold on you seem to care more about your theories than your sick wife ... it ended.

[GGT]

I agree with you, LoR. No idea why Atari CC would continue Kat's spam-o-rama pimpfest. Only thing I can come up with is enabling our 'schadenfreude'. :(

[Lor]

I never really gave this issue any thought until i started reading the other forums about this guy. He is more or less a troll, maybe not to the common standards but none the less, still a troll. He roams so many forums and is seriously well known for what he does.

The guy is either up for one heck of a laugh/scam or generally does believe. In which case he leads a boring life, if someone wanted him dead, trust me they'd have done it already. :down:

[Dreadnaught]

Yes, but we are laughing at him, so I hardly call him a successful troll.

Unless this actually turns into a real discussion, in which case we're letting him win :confused:

Kat's been here since before there was a WL system, after all.

If you want, you can engage him in a riotous round of recriminations and counter-charges. I doubt it will do anything, but I don't have a problem with it. :noob:

[Lor]

Yes, but we are laughing at him, so I hardly call him a successful troll.

Unless this actually turns into a real discussion, in which case we're letting him win :confused:

Kat's been here since before there was a WL system, after all.

If you want, you can engage him in a riotous round of recriminations and counter-charges. I doubt it will do anything, but I don't have a problem with it. :noob:
Engage in a talk about this? You must be kidding. I've seen people try, he just does the same as most and walk around the issue saying things like "I'm not paranoid! You must be for looking in this thread" or the best ever when he got a thread locked ... "The feds got to him and closed it!"

... :confused:!

I just think it's just pure worthless spam.

[Dreadnaught]

But you gave an example of another forum where people talked him down. It's probably possible.

[Lor]

Oh it's possible to talk him down or even get a rise out of him, but they all got pissed off with him posting after a while because he stopped the discussion, but carried on posting crap like we've got (eventually they saw it as spam) and banned him for it.

I wouldn't mind if he just talk to us, actually discussed his theories more and why he thinks them ... but he doesn't damnit!

Goto Rum and cheese, they done a funny job of talking to him.

[Dreadnaught]

Okay then. People should reply to Kat's most recent post with arguments. If Kat doesn't respond, I will give him a General Behavior warning :p

[littlelolligagged]

Okay then. People should reply to Kat's most recent post with arguments. If Kat doesn't respond, I will give him a General Behavior warning :p
But I'd be afraid of getting WL for trolling if I said what I really wanted to. ;)

[Lor]

Okay then. People should reply to Kat's most recent post with arguments. If Kat doesn't respond, I will give him a General Behavior warning :p
Viva la DREAD!

[Monkey_Reloaded]

The government has already started implementing their spies into our video games.
:eek: Oh my god.
http://www.hlfallout.net/images/content/image_30813.jpg

[kathaksung]

There is no logic in your talking. The question is: If my message is so bad that bother you that much, why have you clicked in again and again? It's simple that you can just leave it alone. So there is a purpose. We know who is scare of my revelation and tries to block it from public. Who is troll? It's clear that you repeat the same tone and never having a serious discussion.

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384. Extortion by terrorism (2/12/06)

On 2/7, I wrote the message #383. I talked about two strange sections of Patriot Act were particularly designed on me and is set to be eliminated in compromise. But because Feds couldn't finish my case to their schedule so they have to delay it for another five weeks.

Next day on 2/8, there was an alert in Capitol Hill.

Quote, "US Senate Building Evacuated After Alarm for Possible Nerve Agent
By Dan Robinson
Capitol Hill 09 February 2006

A U.S. Senate office building was evacuated late Wednesday after sensors detected the possible presence in the air of what was initially described as a nerve agent. The building was later reopened after police reported negative test results."

http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/library/news/2006/02/sec-060209-voa02.htm

I am familiar with this. It's another intimidation on lawmakers. There were similar events When D.O.J. was pushing to pass through the Patriot Act, Senators were intimidated by anthrax letters. When the Feds want the House to authorize the Iraq war power to President Bush, there was a D.C. sniper shooting spree. So what was it this time? The answer came at same time. Same day on 2/9, news reported:

Quote, "Key Republicans Reach Deal on Patriot Act A Few Democrats Voice Support But Law's Main Foe Isn't Swayed

By DAVID ESPO, AP

WASHINGTON (Feb. 9) - A band of Senate Republican holdouts reached agreement Thursday with the White House on changes in the Patriot Act designed to clear the way for passage of anti-terror legislation stalled in a dispute over civil liberties.
......

-Clarifying that most libraries are not subject to demands in those letters for information about suspected terrorists."

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060209144009990011

It was a power show off. When I said the D.O.J. delayed the compromise by a short time once and again, they want to show that they can make the change quickly.

It also proves the library provision is targeting at me. The libraries I had been to were just a few. So it doesn't affect them to exempt the most. The other two changes in Patriot Act are also minor. It's only a cosmetic concession.

385. Frame a FISA case (2/12/06)

In early December last year, my daughter urged me several times for the tax return, said she needed it to apply for a scholarship. I gave her the tax return of 2004. She insisted for a 2005 return. I told her it was impossible because 2005 was not finished. It could not be done until February 06 when all financial statements were got. At last she gave me an ultimatum that she must get it before March 2, 2006.

I wondered why she insisted for a tax return of 2005. Related to the hot issues of secret spying in December, I thought it was an effort of Feds for a FISA warrant. ****'s family has a security company. We have an account in that company. Each year when I prepared for tax return, we would call the company for an annual statement. Then why the Feds only focus on this year? I think they have just set up a FISA case recently with the help of Chinese secret police.

Almost at same time, (early December 2005) I learned a news from World Journal. The columnist said he had attended a banquet hosted by Mr. and Mrs **** Yi Hong. The distinguished guest was a writer who had been very popular in Hongkong. This was the writer's first return to Hongkong after he had immigrated to the US for 13 years.....

I don't think it was a coincidence a writer who had settled in US for 13 years suddenly took a trip to Hongkong at this time. He was probably sent to Hongkong on purpose by Feds. Hongkong is a hot field for international intelligence. It's natural that celebrities seeking all kinds of information, let alone if it was a case deliberately set up by the secret police of two countries - China and US.. Mr. **** Yi Hong might have been put on the FISA list since then, as well as the security company his family owns.

This is why I was urged to file a 2005 tax return. All for a FISA warrant when there is a phone call. I don't care wiretap. What I fear is a violent action. Because a wiretap warrant means much more. Feds is in a hurry. They only asked for a 5 weeks' delay for the old Patriot Act.

386. More extortion (2/17/05)

Vice President Dick Cheney wounded a friend in a hunting accident. Though it was only a slip, media made it a big news. And the intelligence pushed a wave in internet to propaganda on it. Then Cheney's wounded friend had a heart attack. If he died, Cheney would have legal trouble.

On 2/15, Cheney held a meeting with law makers of his party (Republicans).

On 2/16, in Capital Hill, "Republicans derail eavesdropping probe". Also, "The Patriot Act cleared a major hurdle Thursday (2/16) that ensures it will be renewed soon." (both news reported by Mercury News, 2/17/06)

I think these two events are the result of Cheney's meeting.

This is how media turns a trifle into a big case. In Lewinsky scandal, a personal affair was developed to "lie under oath" which finally caused impeachment. Cheney's hunting accident now becomes " the White House bypasses media".

But is there a big liar in the White House who misled US into an unnecessary war? Is there a real law offender who violates the Constitution to spy on US citizens? Why the media turn a blind eye on the real big case but concentrate on the bits and pieces?

Don't follow the way media want you to think. Think with your own brain. The media is only a mind control tool of D.O.J.. They rule this country by intelligence and media. And manipulate the politicians through extortion.

387. Cross murder deal (2) (2/17/06)

I realized the cross murder deal in 9/24 case.

In March 2005, there was a regime change in Hongkong. A western cultivated Hongkong official - Donald Tsang, became the chief executive of Hongkong.

On 8/31/05, Mercury News reported: "The chief executive of HongKong invited the territory's entire legislature Tuesday to travel with him to southern China next month...... The trip next month, scheduled for Sept. 25 and 26."

Next day I received letters from Homeowner Association and a San Jose Council member which I alleged having arranged 9/24 a garbage dumping day to frame me in. At that time, I was alarmed by dense plane crashes and thought there would be a big murder plot around 9/24. (see message #339, 340, 342, 343) But would China kill Mr. **** Yi Hong whom I thought was pro-China? (His father had been a member of Chinese Political Consultative Conference)

The next news was on 9/26. "Long-banned authorities of Hong Kong visit mainland". "The Chinese government invited the entire 60 member Legislative Council on a two day tour of Guangdong.". "Some of whom (pro-democracy lawmakers) had been barred from China for more than a decade."

Then came the news of the President of Taiwan who had dramatically changed his trip schedule and stopped in Bali, Indonesia where there was just a second bombing occurred.
I finally realized there was a cross murder deal. China would kill a law maker of HongKong whom is pro-China to exchange US killing the President of Taiwan whom is pro-US.

[Dreadnaught]

It's clear that you repeat the same tone and never having a serious discussion.

What should I do with this, folks?

[Sub Zero]

The government has already started implementing their spies into our video games.
:eek: Oh my god.
http://www.hlfallout.net/images/content/image_30813.jpg
eww :weird:

[GGT]

What should I do with this, folks?

IMO this is just PS.....Paranoid Spam. It seems clear (to me) that kathaksung does not engage in any discussion, none whatsoever. He comes, he posts long and bizarre things, then disappears until the next long and bizarre post.

This just smacks of pimping out Atari CC for his own purposes. I think the humor card was trumped a long time ago. :o

[CitizenCain]

IMO this is just PS.....Paranoid Spam. It seems clear (to me) that kathaksung does not engage in any discussion, none whatsoever. He comes, he posts long and bizarre things, then disappears until the next long and bizarre post.

This just smacks of pimping out Atari CC for his own purposes. I think the humor card was trumped a long time ago. :o

Well, then, you should be taking Dread up on that offer... where you respond to kath rationally and wait for him to ignore you.

[GGT]

Isn't that kind of like teasing the kids in special ed classes? I could, we all could try to make sense of this nonsense, but what does that say about us? :o

[CitizenCain]

Isn't that kind of like teasing the kids in special ed classes? I could, we all could try to make sense of this nonsense, but what does that say about us? :o

Oh, so is that frowned on now? Dammit, I gotta cancel my plans for tomorrow. :(

[littlelolligagged]

What should I do with this, folks?
Ermmmmm a nice small warning, maybe? I'd be happy to entertain myself by discussing Kat's paranoia, but just reading about it gets kind of dull.

[RandBlade]

Loki and I got into a long point-by-point discussion with Kat only a few months ago, in another thread. Many responses by Kat to what we said and vice-versa . . . when most responses here are merely that he is paranoid etc, why should he respond to that?

[Lor]

"There is no logic in your talking. The question is: If my message is so bad that bother you that much, why have you clicked in again and again? It's simple that you can just leave it alone. So there is a purpose. We know who is scare of my revelation and tries to block it from public. Who is troll? It's clear that you repeat the same tone and never having a serious discussion."

Your message wouldn't be so bad if you took what people say on the chin, instead of coming out with kats usual responses. You don't try to make us believe you, you don't do anything, period.

We click again and again to express own opinions that this thread is just for personal gain. It's now boring and pointless.

You offer nothing, you no longer debate as much, you just come here, spam and leave. Whats the point? You knock off other threads from page 1 just for your personal gain. You don't post in other threads, you don't debate FULL STOP. If you want to keep doing this then perhaps invest some money on your own domain and keep a better organised blog site. If you want people to take you seriously then you need to come across as serious. So far you just act like a paranoid nutcase who needs mental care. I kid you not.

No one is scared of your revelations. If they were - you'd be dead already, accept it. I could knock you off. You could be mugged, beaten up or even run over because you didn't look left and right at a crossing. But nevermind that black unmarked car would look highly suspect right?

RB - He should respond by trying to prove us wrong, to try and make us believe and understand why he thinks this. Sorry Rand that isn't an excuse for this. You know it's spam, you know he has no intentions to offer anything to this forum as a whole. I've asked questions previously, they go unanswered. I'm sure i'm not the only one.

I've talked to Dread about this, he knows i don't like it. I wouldn't mind if Kat tried to add more to the community. Everyone does there fair share, i know it's optional but heck it's called Community Chat for a reason, not community blog. From the scale of You, RB to Cain to Baxter, you all offer opinions on MANY topics, you have moments where your funny etc etc ... but what do we see of Kat? Nothing.

:down:

God i love Monday mornings, makes me extra cranky. :mad::up:.

[RandBlade]

-']We click again and again to express own opinions that this thread is just for personal gain. It's now boring and pointless. Your clicking again and again demonstrates there is interest in what he is saying.
RB - He should respond by trying to prove us wrong, to try and make us believe and understand why he thinks this. Sorry Rand that isn't an excuse for this. You know it's spam, you know he has no intentions to offer anything to this forum as a whole. I've asked questions previously, they go unanswered. I'm sure i'm not the only one.

I've talked to Dread about this, he knows i don't like it. I wouldn't mind if Kat tried to add more to the community. Everyone does there fair share, i know it's optional but heck it's called Community Chat for a reason, not community blog. From the scale of You, RB to Cain to Baxter, you all offer opinions on MANY topics, you have moments where your funny etc etc ... but what do we see of Kat? Nothing.

:down: He should do what he wants to do IMO, so long as its within the rules, same as every other user. I disagree about it being spam, it is occassional posts, in one thread only typically, that is not spam. This thread has 1,183 posts in total, not including this one, making it the sixth largest thread on record in the CC, discounting game threads only "When you die" and the "euro" threads are longer. However only 226 posts were made by Kat, nearly a thousand posts were made by others. To put that into comparison, Chaloobi has a much higher ratio of posts in the "When you die" thread, while Hazir and I each have a much higher ratio in the "euro" thread.

If others stop posting completely and it were to be just Kat again and again, then you'd have a point. But that's not the case: Like it or loathe it, this one thread is getting responses again and again by people, Kat is as far as the post count is concerned a minor player even within this thread, so I am content to declare it Not Spam. Ignore it and if everyone else does the same then things could change. He's not trolling, he's not spamming, IMO.

[Lor]

Load of ****ing BS if you ask me. Just blogging his personal thoughts constantly :down:.

There are places for it, i can find them for him if he really would like them. :o

-edit- Oh and yes i am in a overall can't be arsed, pissed off mood. God damn lack of work is pissing me off. :mad:

[RandBlade]

When nearly all posts are by others, its clearly not "just" a blog.

[Lor]

http://www.google.com/search?q=kathaksung

Wow! What an efficient little nut/anti-USA propagandist!! I'm leaning towards propagandist now but still not sure.

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned your wife...or did you just make her up?

Well, if you can make her up then I can have an affair with her. You don't think so?

BAM!

I just did! I even have the video we made!

I'm sorry, it's not nice to toy with him like that, is it?
:o

OK ok ok .. i take EVERYTHING back, absolutely everything (minus the nut case comments). This was comedy GOLD!

:haha:

[Ziggy Stardust]

Please someone check page 6 post nr 227 and tell me I'm not going insane :)

[Dreadnaught]

I know what you're thinking, Ziggy. At that point, some people were playing along and making their own fake story :)

[Silenced Hero]

I wonder whats with the the HL2 pictures -.-

[Lor]

I know what you're thinking, Ziggy. At that point, some people were playing along and making their own fake story :)
How did this obsession come around anyway? I can't find the text anywhere. An army of spies/agents after one person who means nothing to them. Can't we just hunt him down and scare the crap out of him. PLEASE?!

[kathaksung]

IMO this is just PS.....Paranoid Spam. It seems clear (to me) that kathaksung does not engage in any discussion, none whatsoever. He comes, he posts long and bizarre things, then disappears until the next long and bizarre post.

This just smacks of pimping out Atari CC for his own purposes. I think the humor card was trumped a long time ago. :o

I don't engage in meaningless "throwing stone fightings". As for posting styles, I think everyone has the freedom of having his own. I won't change that to favor you.

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388. Review the London bombing (2/22/06)

7/6/06. London was awarded to host the 2012 Olympic. That was a payment for the coming London bombing.

7/7. First London bombing. Four "suicides" unnecessarily died in bombing. Because at that time nobody expected there would be a terror attack in Britain. The perpetrator could leave the bomb in train without suspicion, then to detonate it with remote control. The death of the bombers reflect the tactic of the mastermind behind the scene. Eliminate any information which may reveal them.

There were three attempted frame cases in April, May and June that year in the name of architectural/Landscaping inspection by Homeowners Association. So I thought the London bombing was part of the new plot and was used to cover up the planned bombing in US. Make the terrorist attack a global one not particularly occurred in US.

I also was puzzled by the repeated violation warning from the H.A. for "Overgrown tree by front window". How could they be so picky when I tried my best? I checked the front window tree again and again. And thought it might be the iron rail of the front window which caused problem. The iron rail is locked from inside to protect the window from break in theft. I found all the window rail locked well except that front window's. It was loose. If someone intended to go into the house by window, he could do it by opening the iron rail wide like to open a door. But the branches of front window tree blocked the way to open the iron rail wide. It seems Feds wanted to go into the house by front window. I cleared the way to their wish. Why? Because the front window belongs to my daughter's room. She put a computer desk at the window. The desk cabinet blocked half of the window. Nobody could go through without breaking the cabinet. I couldn't locked the rail by myself. It was tight, needs two people work together to lock. (one inside the house, other one work outside.) But my daughter always pull a long face to me. So I left it alone as it was still safe then. My worry soon came true.

On 7/18, my daughter re-arranged her room. She moved the computer desk away and cleared the space at window. It alarmed me. Would they really do as I had thought? After she finished re-arrangement, I asked her help to lock the iron rail. It was for her security, she had no reason to refuse. Of course, if someone had instructed her to clear the window space, he wouldn't tell the truth that the purpose was to murder her and her parents. Just like secret police wouldn't tell the four men they would break into pieces in an explosion when they were instructed to carry a back-pack to the London underground train.

The revenge came quickly. On 7/19 morning. I was awaken by severe tooth-ache. I knew it was a punishment because I broke up their plan. The ache was so severe that I had to leave the house and get into the car. The tooth ache was instantly disappeared. It was caused by EM-wave or sonic wave, I think. And can only be avoided in a closed solid body. It proved I had correctly broken a murder case. Feds made a revenge. Another similar story was they had hurt my left arm after my revelation of Boston dirty bomb case. (see "286. Intensified EM wave shooting. (1/29/05")

7/21. There was the second London bombing. Though the situation required a suicide bombing this time because the security was tightened, there was no real explosion and no bomber died. Probably the recruited informants realized from the first London bombing that they could become un-volunteered "suicides" in the trap and refuse to a real bombing mission.

I think if I hadn't fix the iron rail of the front window on 7/18, there would be a "murder and suicide" case at my home around 7/21. The police would say so because the door was locked inside. Windows were protected by iron rail. Nobody knew one Iron rail was unlocked. The way to access by that window was cleared by intimidation of H.A.. A drug case might framed B at same time. All these news would be distracted by terror attack(globally) same day. The rest of my family members would be eliminated in a September east coast trip.

389. Liquefaction quake and rain (2/27/06)

In previous message, I talked a lot about how Feds carried out their plan with the help of weather manipulation: rain, storm, hurricane tsunami, earthquake.......

When there was a landslide in Philippine which buried about 1500 people, I thought it might be an experiment of another climate weapon. US happened to have a military manoeuvre nearby. So US troops quickly came to help. And I had alleged the tsunami and a meteor event happened in Indonesia were the results of a covert military experiment. US seems like to have the South-east Asia as its test area.

On 2/25, there was an article in Mercury News. "Quake risks mapped', "Improved geological survey maps reclassify parts of Bay Area for threat of liquefaction and provide a much closer look at neighborhood conditions." , "Liquefaction occurs when loose, waterlogged soil is shaken. It loses strength and behaves like a fluid, causing buildings to sink in much the same way your feet sink into soggy sand at the edge of the surf."

I checked the color map and found my house was in red color area - the highest risk area.
I checked the weather forecast, found that started from the next day, 2/26, all would be rainy day. The five days forecast of today, (2/27) still were all rain logo.

The news of landslide of Philippines was still fresh in my mind. It seems Feds will apply the new technology on my area. This season's rainfall is above normal. The soil is saturated with water already. Feds will pour more water on it. Prepare for an earthquake hazard? Very possible. Though California is an earthquake area. The liquefaction quake is the first time warning.

The map is newly done with no identifying feature so the news article promised "the information will be added in the next two months." I think it was hastily developed to Feds' demand. But will it be too coincident that a liquefaction and an earthquake taking place after "scientists" suddenly beware of it?

All because Feds is in a hurry. Ten days later, Patriot Act will face the expiration. The working team must be aggressive to create an earthquake and a liquefaction to avoid another extension.

[BGTB2005]

If the Feds are after you Kat, you're effectively helping them if they can track your IP here, and I,m pretty sure they would have taken care of you with a bullet in the forehead......

And I think you would get a Darwin Award......

[littlelolligagged]

OMG Kat has a child at home :bored: . I think that bothers me more than anything else.

[Dreadnaught]

OMG Kat has a child at home :bored: . I think that bothers me more than anything else.
Oh, that's been noted with horror before :bored:

[Lor]

"7/7. First London bombing. Four "suicides" unnecessarily died in bombing. Because at that time nobody expected there would be a terror attack in Britain. The perpetrator could leave the bomb in train without suspicion, then to detonate it with remote control. The death of the bombers reflect the tactic of the mastermind behind the scene. Eliminate any information which may reveal them."

They are suicide bombers, it's what they do. This really makes no ****ing sense.

[NeoJunk]

I personally have doubts about 389, Kat, why would the government let you know that they are planning an environmental attack on you, as they probably know your reading habits. Logically, therefor, they are using the potential threat of an environmental attack against you. Now, I am not fully aquainted yet with all of the governments attacks and lies against you, but, You should probably look around a new news source that you have never read before to see if the government is using other attacks against you, ones that if you noticed you could stop. Don't be distracted by the government! You must survive!

[RandBlade]

-']"7/7. First London bombing. Four "suicides" unnecessarily died in bombing. Because at that time nobody expected there would be a terror attack in Britain. The perpetrator could leave the bomb in train without suspicion, then to detonate it with remote control. The death of the bombers reflect the tactic of the mastermind behind the scene. Eliminate any information which may reveal them.""Nobody expected a terror attack in Britain"? "Could leave a bomb without suspicion"?

OMG you must never have been to Britain Kat :eek:. Not only have we been expecting a British attack by Al'Qaeda ever since 9/11, we have had routine bombings by an organisation known as the Irish Republican Army, commonly called the IRA. You may have heard of them.

Unexplained packages left anywhere in London get blown up in a controlled explosion and treated very suspiciously and have done for decades!

[Lor]

"Nobody expected a terror attack in Britain"? "Could leave a bomb without suspicion"?

OMG you must never have been to Britain Kat :eek:. Not only have we been expecting a British attack by Al'Qaeda ever since 9/11, we have had routine bombings by an organisation known as the Irish Republican Army, commonly called the IRA. You may have heard of them.

Unexplained packages left anywhere in London get blown up in a controlled explosion and treated very suspiciously and have done for decades!
I know Rand, isn't that something. I mean Canary W. Tower got hit for example.

Absolutely anything thats left is soon seized and destroyed. It's like that anywhere.

[littlelolligagged]

Oh, that's been noted with horror before :bored:
:cry: I knew there was a reason why I never read all of this.

[Super Android]

"Nobody expected a terror attack in Britain"? "Could leave a bomb without suspicion"?

OMG you must never have been to Britain Kat :eek:. Not only have we been expecting a British attack by Al'Qaeda ever since 9/11, we have had routine bombings by an organisation known as the Irish Republican Army, commonly called the IRA. You may have heard of them.

Unexplained packages left anywhere in London get blown up in a controlled explosion and treated very suspiciously and have done for decades!Britain, Tony Blair anyway, has been with us completely on the War Against Terror. They should have at least expected the possibility of something occuring with all the Muslims they have living there. :downcast:

[Lor]

Britain, Tony Blair anyway, has been with us completely on the War Against Terror. They should have at least expected the possibility of something occuring with all the Muslims they have living there. :downcast:
There is always the possibility regardless of extremists or not. Don't just point the finger at muslims. IRA pose just as big of a threat too.

[kathaksung]

I personally have doubts about 389, Kat, why would the government let you know that they are planning an environmental attack on you, as they probably know your reading habits. Logically, therefor, they are using the potential threat of an environmental attack against you. Now, I am not fully aquainted yet with all of the governments attacks and lies against you, but, You should probably look around a new news source that you have never read before to see if the government is using other attacks against you, ones that if you noticed you could stop. Don't be distracted by the government! You must survive!

1. It's a tactic Feds used to use: a pre psychological propaganda to convince public the coming disaster is not a planned one but a natural occurance. Same tactic were used on terror attack, such like Bin Laden's tape, dirty bomb warning..... or Bird Flu warning, Mad Cow warning..... As a matter of fact, WMD propaganda could be viewed as one of such tactic for the psychological preparing of Iraq war.

2. When feds put the news on paper, they didn't focus on me. They focus at the local residents to let them believe the coming liquefaction is a natural disaster. They didn't expect I would realize their plot.

Mercury News is the only big local paper I can subscribe.

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390. London bombing review (2) (continue to #388)(3/5/06)

The July plot went sour. A new plot immediately planned. Storms played a big role in this new plan.

8/14. London bombing still would be used in new plot to justify the bombing in US.

Re: "US warns of new attacks on London
DAVID LEPPARD
August 14, 2005
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=40135

8/14 - 9/5 Four big plane crashes took place which would make the coming one not so unusual to the public.

9/6 - 9/18. Originated from Bahamas Hurricane Ophelia (storm 2) moved slowly along the East Coast. It would be used to cause a trip accident.

9/10 - 9/17 My family members took a trip in East Coast. (attempt murder 1)

8/29. Hurricane Katrina (storm 1) originated from Bahamas drowned New Orleans. Its role was to (1) distract an anti-war movement. (2) play a cover up role to Hurricane Rita, (3) a drill for the coming Hurricane Rita. The two hurricanes were so similar: from its originates (Bahamas), moving traces, to its lasting days. (8 days) (4) give an excuse to the coming inflation. (The inflation is artificial suppressed because Feds needs a low interest rate to maintain a booming house market.)

8/30. Cindy Sheehan's anti-war trip started from Texas. But was neglected by media because of Katrina.

8/31. Chief Executive of Hongkong - Donald Tseng, invited the whole legislature of Hongkong to travel with him to mainland China on 9/25.

8/31. H.A. mailed an architectural inspection notice with heavy penalty intimidation. It included the enclosed yard. I thought it targeted at a self made little shed in backyard. If I tore down the shed, there would be a lot of junk. How could I handle it?

8/31. San Jose Council member Chuck Reed mailed a letter announced a "Free dumping day" on 9/24. Which offered a solution for backyard junk. The coincidence enabled me to realize that Feds planned to frame me on 9/24 if I would have dumped the garbage to the bin. (by claiming there was illegal things inside it?) But what if my wife did the garbage job? Then there was a sudden offering of fun trip from an airliner to the travel company my wife worked. Thus she left before 9/24.

9/22 -9/29. My wife left to South-east Asia for a fun trip.

9/24. Free dumping date. (attempt murder 2) Of course I wouldn't do as they wished.
9/24. Big anti-war protest in Washington. (planned to be humiliated by terror attack)
9/24. Hurricane Rita landed in Texas. An event to distract. (storm 3)

9/25 - 9/26. The legislature of Hongkong visited China. I allege there would have been a travel accident to kill Mr. **** Yi Hong if 9/24 plot went on successfully. (attempt murder 3)

9/27. My wife took a boat trip in Haloon Bay, Vietnam. While Typhoon Damrey(storm 4) just left a day ago. (attempt murder 4)

10/1 evening, Second Bali bombing.
10/2 morning. Chen Shui-bian, the President of Taiwan stopped in Bali not far from the bombing site. His plane had a temporary stop-by due to the typhoon Longwang. (storm 5) (attempt murder 5)

In 9/24 plot, there were at least 5 attempt murder case, 4 were planned when the victims were in trip. Feds created 5 storms to help the case. And if the 9/24 plot succeeded, I believe there would have been a third London bombing. Though at last it didn't come true, British secret police had prepared it.

The payment to British was not only to host the Olympic. Another reward came right after 9/24.

9/27. "Panel claims IRA has given up weapons
by John Daniszewsky
Los Angeles Times

....the Provisional Irish Republican Army had turned over the bullets, guns, blasting caps, bombs and explosive plastics that held much of Britain in terror for more than 35 years."
(Mercury News 9/27/05)

There were indications to show that US intelligence was behind most terror attack: OKC bombing; 911 attack; anthrax letter; Bali bombing, Chechenya rebel...... It's their tactic to have a link with all opposition party, no matter it's legal or illegal. To manipulate the opposition force often came to a result favorable to them .

The IRA disarmament also indicates that US intends to release one hand of British secret police and let it move its resource to deal with Islamic world.

391. Police arrest and DNA frame (3/10/06)

On 9/2, when I received the letter from H.A. ordering to clean the backyard and the letter from the council member offering a free dumping for junks, I knew there would be a case framed on 9/24. Three air plane crash then worried me about the safety of my family members' East Coast trip. I wrote "339. The September plot (9/2/05)".

9/3. Realized their 9/24 plot was revealed and might fail, Feds had a swift reaction. I alleged they had murdered the Chief Justice Rehnquist that day and then put John Roberts to that position. (see 344. Roberts, a secret agent of D.O.J. (9/18/05)) Roberts was rushed to take oath on 9/29. The tactic was to make "unreasonable search and arrest" reasonable.

Start from 9/24, there was a series of news and events to direct the work team of Feds how to detain victim by local police.

9/24. A San Jose Judge reversed a false arrest case to make the arrest reasonable.
9/25. Bill passed to force DNA collection on detained suspects. (see "346. Police detain and DNA plant (10/2/05)" and "347. Abandon the Constitution (10/7/05)")

9/28. Police and undercover agents and "witness team" were found near my house. (see "348. "Witness" team (10/7/05)")

10/8 Set up a case by creating a "burglary". When police answer the call of "burglary", they arrested the reporter by "finding drugs" at his home. (see "350. Boy George and drug charge (10/12/05)")

11/12 News about how police arrested a man by "finding drugs" at his home when his wife reported a "domestic dispute". (see "357. Another attack from D.O.J. (11/12/05)")

12/1. A tactic how to force the victim out to encounter a police search by 'juror summon". (see "362. George Bush's Jury work (12/2/05)")

After the 9/24 plot went sour, Feds carried out a "police search and arrest" tactic in which they planned to arrest at one's own home by "domestic dispute" or "burglary". Or force one out by "juror summon". I believe Feds had prepared a big framed case with planted "DNA evidence".
All these are assured to go through because they had their representatives in Supreme Court.

[kathaksung]

392. 12/2 plot to murder Mr. **** Yi Hong (3/15/06)

After the failure of 9/24 plot, another big case was framed on 12/2/05.

11/14/05. Arnold Schwarzenegger started his 6 day trip in China. He visited Shanghai, Beijing and Hongkong. I alleged a new secret deal was confirmed between US and China.

11/15. China confirmed its first human case of Bird Flu. Which means after the outbreak of the framed case, Bird Flu would be used to distract and eliminate.

11/15. US Consulate in Guangzhou warned of a possible terrorist threat to American facilities in the southern Chinese city of Guangzhou. Later I knew that was the method they planned to kill Mr. **** Yi Hong. (see "358. New secret deal (11/17/05)")

11/24. Chinese consulate in Karachi said it received a fax threatening that terrorist would attack the restaurants in Hongkong and China. This was a justification for the coming bombing.

In later November, Singapore government suddenly announced it would execute an Australian.(Who was sentenced to death for holding heroine) It was only about a week from the announcement to the execution. It was a hurried decision.

Sometime in later November, my daughter said someone would give her a free gift - a fitness cycle. I alleged this was an active plant by the Feds.

12/2. Singapore executed the Australian. I alleged it was a cover up action of another framed drug case targeted at Dr. ****.

12/2. The mini-van my daughter drove was left at the door. It got a flat tire. There was a fitness cycle inside it. I didn't replace the flat tire, fearing it was a trap.

12/2. The Vice Secretary of the Chinese People's Representative Council, Mr. Qiao Xiao-Yang, suddenly flied to Guangzhou. He was invited by the Chief executive of Hongkong - Donald Tsang, to speak about the political reform of Hongkong to the elite politicians. The elite politicians, of course, were mostly law makers of Hongkong. Media said it was a hurriedly arranged meeting.

I think if I entered the mini van to get tools to replace the flat tire, there would be an arrest. (see "363. A day to day persecution (12/7/05)")

Then there would be terrorist attacks either in China or Hongkong. or both. Targeted at Mr. **** Yi Hong and his securities company. His brother, Dr. ****, would also be framed in a drug case in Singapore. (see "364. Cover up tactic (12/12/05)") (Dr. **** has relatives in Singapore and often go there)

393. Tax return and interest rate (3/20/06)

From December 2005, my daughter started to urge me for the tax file. She said that's for her scholarship application form. In February I gave her an estimation. Because in application form, there is a choice for tax file: "Will file". Which means the tax file is not a mandatory right away. But one week ago, my daughter demanded a filed 2005 tax return. She said otherwise the application wouldn't be processed. It's conflict to the "will file" choice. She also said my name was not right. How could? Did it mean they verified the estimation with IRS and found I hadn't file the 2005 tax return yet?

The only explanation was Feds behind the push. They need it right away. Why?

I think it was a trap. My wife got two free air tickets in the lucky drawing. last year. I think I should report it as income. But my wife opposed. We had a dispute. My wife threatened to divorce, separate the finance.... Fine, I only don't want to drop in the trap.

Then, everyday last week, my wife had a new offer. At first, she said the air line company said they had paid all tax. Then it was the tax accountant said she need not report it. Then the ticket was of no value because there was a lot of limit on it. She would agree to report $360 while I thought it worths about 3,000. (business class to anywhere Asia.).... At last I told her I don't believe her any more. Someone was manipulating her. I'll file return separately because I don't want to take any risk.

Why did Feds push so aggressively these days? I think it is about the housing market. Nationally, the price level off. Only with great effort, Feds managed to hold the market from collapsing. But on 3/28, Federal Reserve will have another meeting with possibility to increase the interest. Feds hurriedly to finish my case so they can release the houses they hold. I think if I have filed the tax return, there would be an arrest.

How does the Feds hold the Mortgage rate these days? They keep the 10 years bonds at around 4.66% (almost equal to the overnight interest 4.5% Federal Reserve charges on the bank) by divert the pension fund of government employee.

Quote, "Retirement Fund Tapped to Avoid National Debt Limit
By Stephen Barr Wednesday, March 8, 2006;

The Treasury Department has started drawing from the civil service pension fund to avoid hitting the $8.2 trillion national debt limit. The move to tap the pension fund follows last month's decision to suspend investments in a retirement savings plan held by government employees.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/07/AR2006030701736.html

Is there any problem to raise the ceiling of national debt? No. Then why the law makers did not raised the debt limit in advance? Because that will push up the interest rate by issuing more bonds. To divert the pension fund of government employee from the investment for government spending could avoid to borrow money from the financial market. Thus keep the interest rate low.

Be noticed that it happens in March. The time Feds aggressively pushed me to file the tax return.

What will happen if a bank manager divert his client's investment fund for budget of his own bank? He will be in jail. But D.O.J. is above the law. They could spy on US citizens without court warrant. So what to spend money of others? I allege they will continue to divert other kinds of funds for their own spending. What a corruptive government.

[BGTB2005]

If the Feds wanted to arrest you, they would have stormed your house......

[W2D]

You're still around? Seriously, if the feds wanted you, they'd have you.

[kathaksung]

394. Sense in advance (3/25/06)

I failed to post #393 at my homepage on 3/20. This was the first time Feds harassed me on my own homepage. It may signaled Feds thought they could finish the case these days.

For tax return my wife argued with me almost everyday last week. Than it came such a news related to family dispute. That's the Randolph's case I talked about three months ago. Feds tried to justify a search and arrest in the name of "domestic dispute".

Quote, "Supreme Court splits in limiting police searches

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday (3/22) that police without a warrant cannot search a home when one resident says to come in but another tells them to go away, and the court's new leader complained that the ruling could hamper investigations of domestic abuse. ......

Roberts' dissent was unusually long — almost as long as the main opinion. He predicted "severe" consequences for women who invite police in only to be overruled by their husbands. "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11959183/

This case proves what I said before was correct. Roberts was hastily sent to the seat of Chief Justice by D.O.J. The purpose was to rule for the benefit of D.O.J. in a framed case. Roberts worked very hard for the first case D.O.J. gave him - to justify an unreasonable search and arrest. I predicted it on 9/18/05 in #344. "Roberts, a secret agent of D.O.J. '

I also noticed the Randolph's case and thought it would be used as a demonstration to justify the unreasonable search. I particularly wrote about this case on 11/12/05. "357. Another attack from D.O.J. ".

If Alito were there, he would go with Roberts. The two were sent there to justify unreasonable search by D.O.J..

The point is Feds(FBI, DEA) is good to provoke a conflict among family members. If this case goes to D.O.J.'s wish, then the last castle of one's privacy - your own home, means nothing. Every minute you can be searched. That's why a warrantless wiretap is so important to us. It's about the right of every citizen.

I'll say my sense is very correct.

395. A sudden trip and the tax return trap (3/30/06)

I still have problem to post #394 at my own homepage.

On Sunday (3/26), my wife took out the suit case. She was having a sudden trip to Hongkong and China that night. She took out the already done 2005 tax return and asked me to sign the paper. She said she agreed to report the air ticket prize to my wish.

I was surprised. After week long dispute, I told her to file the return separately. How could she still file a joint return? At this time, my sisters came. They advised me to sign the paper.

I reviewed the file, found there was a flaw. My wife has a stock investment in Hongkong. The accountant didn't report the interest and dividend income of that investment though the document were given.

My wife called the accountant. Her explanation was she had reviewed the statement. Because there was no trading, so she didn't report any income. But how could she neglected the interest and dividend income? It's about $1,000.

I think she is a special accountant assigned to my wife by Feds. She deliberately under report the income to create a problematic tax return. The reason I think so based on:

1. It's common sense to report the interest and dividends income. This is a mistake an accountant shouldn't make.

2. My wife said the return has been E-filed already. It was illegal. How could the accountant file my tax return without my consent (my signature)? As an expert, this is a mistake she shouldn't make.

3. My wife called the accountant right away. The accountant said she would pick up the file tomorrow at my wife's office. It was Sunday afternoon. It seemed she was waiting for the paper with my signature.

Of course I didn't sign it. What she filed was only the part of my wife's. There were other schedule paper in my name not included. I demand a correction.

I allege Feds prepared a wrong tax return. Hoping I would sign it in a hurry. My wife handed it to me just hours before her leaving.

I think the sudden trip of my wife to Hongkong is a new arrangement of Feds. With which they applied for a new FISA surveillance warrant. A new plot is forming.

[BGTB2005]

If the Feds wanted you that bad, why haven't you been put in prison by now?

[CitizenCain]

If the Feds wanted you that bad, why haven't you been put in prison by now?

Well, we keep trying to kill him, but our ray guns keep malfunctioning. Damn military scientists. :mad:

[BGTB2005]

Why not have an Apache Attack Helicopter "accidentally" crash in or fire the entire arsenal into his house?

[CitizenCain]

Why not have an Apache Attack Helicopter "accidentally" crash in or fire the entire arsenal into his house?

Too expensive. And most of the electronics in those birds is classified equipment anyway. Can't have it falling into the wrong hands. So we're stuck with using these damn unpredictable ray guns.

[BGTB2005]

Why not have an M1 blow up the house?

[CitizenCain]

Why not have an M1 blow up the house?

Well, for starters, the DU rounds M1-A1s use would go through his house, his neighbor's house and half the town before coming to rest. Plus, they tear up the roads something awful... metal treads and 80 tonne machines aren't very good for ashphalt.

Plus, covering up the presence of the such a big tank in a small neighborhood is... well, "problematic," to be sure.

[BGTB2005]

You could, in the middle of the night, get in his house and give him Avian Influenza......
And no-one would ever know it was you......

[CitizenCain]

You could, in the middle of the night, get in his house and give him Avian Influenza......
And no-one would ever know it was you......

Flu epidemic... nope, nope, we've looked at all the options, the only one that we can really try is ray gun assassination. :(

[BGTB2005]

9 mm to the head?

[CitizenCain]

9 mm to the head?

Noise. He lives in a duplex.

[BGTB2005]

Silenced 9 mm?

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[CitizenCain]

Silenced 9 mm?

Worse noise. Suppressed fire at close range makes an unmistakable sound, where as non-suppressed fire at least sounds similar to fireworks.

[BGTB2005]

Sniper rifle from 40 m?

[CitizenCain]

Sniper rifle from 40 m?

The guy's a paranoid head case... he's got tin foil all over his windows. Can't see in.

[mahiro shukosa]

They should just use their phasers to vaporize him. :mad:

[BGTB2005]

Heat seeking missile?

[DarkWraith]

BGTB: This is a government operation. They like to do things by the book, and the book says to use a ray gun that occasionally gives him slight headaches or makes him drowsy until he dies.

[Master[\/]][[\][)]

Besides they can't afford to kill him. By now Kat must be responsible for half of the Feds annual budget ;)

[BGTB2005]

Why not drive him off the road into the ocean?

[mahiro shukosa]

Because the EPA would throw a fit. Illegal vehicle dumping and all that.
Besides, the fish would just throw him back. :noob:

[BGTB2005]

Why not hide a bomb under the chassis of his car?

[CitizenCain]

Why not hide a bomb under the chassis of his car?

Against the law. They're cracking down on environmental violators, and releasing all the lead and mercury in a car into the environment is a big no-no these days. Last thing we need is some of our SF guys getting hauled into court on some BS toxic dumping charge. That would be a big black eye for the agency, and a PR nightmare.

[BGTB2005]

But if you do so sneakily enough, nobody will ever know......

[Minx]

Guns don't kill people, Kathaksung. Rappers do.

[Psilon]

LOL!!

Funniest replies ever :haha::up:

[Minx]

BGTB: This is a government operation. They like to do things by the book, and the book says to use a ray gun that occasionally gives him slight headaches or makes him drowsy until he dies.

:haha: :haha:

I should look through the last few pages shouldn't I =)

[kathaksung]

Why not have an M1 blow up the house?

That's how Feds acts. They kill without trace. They do plan to destroy the house but in another way. They use liquefaction caused by quake. People will think it's a natural disaster.

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396. Rain to create a liquefaction quake (4/5/06)

Since Mercury News put the "Liquefaction quake map" on 2/25 paper, it continues to rain until today. Sunny sky became a rarity.

On 4/3, the Mercury News said, "Rain in no hurry to go away

Forecasters have a message for wether-weary Northern California residents who endured the second-wettest March on record: There's plenty more rain to come."

Mudslide, sinkhole start to appear as rainstorms continue to saturate soil. And there is no signal the rain will stop. On 4/4, the paper said, "More rain is predicted through the weekend, with storms potentially continuing for at least two more weeks."

Two more weeks after 4/4 is exactly the 100th anniversary of the Great Quake of San Francisco. (4/18/1906) Media these days report the story of the disaster happened 100 years ago and about the gathering to memory the event. If another big earthquake takes place, people will take it as destined. Their mind are saturated that the Bay area of San Francisco is an area of earthquake already.

But I worry there will be an artificial one. Modern technique can develop a soil liquefaction and earthquake as well. But a soil liquefaction to sink a house is seldom to see. An earthquake will justify such a disaster. That's why a liquefaction quake risks map was suddenly developed and reported in Mercury News.

I'll say my sense in advance is once again proved right. Two days after liquefaction map was on newspaper (2/25) I posted "389. Liquefaction quake and rain (2/27/06)". Though I have no ability to foresee the weather, the development proved I was right. There was a record rainy days.

2/25 Liquefaction quake map was put on news.
2/26 - 2/28 All three days rainy days
3/1- 3/31 News said there were 20 rainy days, a second to the record. (record was 21 rainy days in March) I kept the weather forecast, recorded 21 rainy days this March.
4/1 - 4/5 All five days were rainy days.
4/5 - Forecast said there will be at least two more rain weeks.

Feds is creating a condition for a liquefaction quake. What left is to emit the proper shaking frequency to liquify the saturated soil. It was tested successfully in Philippines several months ago. Feds hurried to apply the new climate weapon in my case.

397. Liquefaction quake and Bird Flu (4/10/06)

In 9/24/05 plot, Feds used hurricane in large scale to help their operation. In this April plot (the action date likely will be in second half of April) they also use climate weapon - a liquefaction quake - in the framed case.

A bio-attack was also planned in each plot. That is Bird Flu. In each plot there always came with the news of Bird Flu. Since the plot went sour one after another, the Bird flu intimidation lasted more than a year but the prediction of the outbreak of the pandemic haven't come to true. Here are some: (watch the topic they used)

One year ago: (4/1/2005)

Quote, "Bush OKs Bird Flu Quarantine in U.S.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/4/1/165412.shtml

10 months ago (6/2/2005)

Bird flu: we're all going to die (By Charles Arthur , 2nd June 2005 )

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/02/bird_flu/

Six months ago: (10/15/2005)

Bird flu 'could kill 150m people' ( BBC news, 30 September 2005)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4292426.stm

Two months ago:

Quote, "Bird flu'could be 21st-century BlackDeath'
· Economists predict rioting and flight from cities (Friday January 27, 2006 The Guardian )

http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1695910,00.html#article_continue

Here are some for the coming April plot:

"March 14, 2006, ABC news

Frightening Warning
"Society just can't accept the idea that 50 percent of the population could die. And I think we have to face that possibility," Webster said. "

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/AvianFlu/story?id=1724801

Virtual Pandemic: 90 Days to Infect Entire U.S.
By Robert Roy Britt LiveScience Managing Editor, 05 April 2006

A new computer model reveals how a pandemic like the avian flu might spread quickly across the United States and what methods would best thwart the scenario.

http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/060405_virtual_pandemic.html

I think the Bird Flu pandemic will not only be used to kill in my case but also be used to kill the people Feds don't like. It will be a big slaughter in the name of natural disease. Take the intimidation seriously because the movement of propaganda lasting so long and restless.

[Dreadnaught]

That's how Feds acts. They kill without trace. They do plan to destroy the house but in another way. They use liquefaction caused by quake. People will think it's a natural disaster.

...

I think the Bird Flu pandemic will not only be used to kill in my case but also be used to kill the people Feds don't like. It will be a big slaughter in the name of natural disease. Take the intimidation seriously because the movement of propaganda lasting so long and restless.

So, by controlling tectonics and avian flu, the Feds will use their nature-altering techniques to kill you.

What will you say when you don't die?

[CitizenCain]

What will you say when you don't die?

"396. More evidence of feds plot against me."

[mahiro shukosa]

The only thing I am curious about is what exactly does his family think of all these paranoid ramblings. :weird:

[CitizenCain]

The only thing I am curious about is what exactly does his family think of all these paranoid ramblings. :weird:

Probably "****, how does he keep breaking out of the hospital?"

[BGTB2005]

Someone, please peg him with a euthanasia-laced water-filled dart already.

[Lor]

The only thing I am curious about is what exactly does his family think of all these paranoid ramblings. :weird:
Probably don't know about it, he may lock himself up in a room at night and post these ramblings.

or

They do know but because of love they just live with it.

Either way he'll lead a life thinking they are after him when really they are not. He lives in a cave, on his own, with no logical thinking. Anyone could kill Kat if they really wanted to, it's not hard. If kat wants to lead the life of paranoia then go right for it.

Good entertainment ... SOMETIMES.

[mrlane]

Indeed, this guy doesnt realize thats hes basically famous on the internet now...

[Dreadnaught]

He does realize it...he seems to spend all of his time trying to be famous :noob:

[']['ear]

BGTB: This is a government operation. They like to do things by the book, and the book says to use a ray gun that occasionally gives him slight headaches or makes him drowsy until he dies.

:haha:

[mahiro shukosa]

It's just sad that he has to live in fear all the time. True that it's an irrational fear, a product of his own mind but still. I just hope he doesn't end up injuring someone because of this.

His family really should do something to help him. :(

[Dreadnaught]

I don't think he really believes any of this. At least I hope not.

Kat is probably either:

A) Legitimately paranoid

B) A lonely teenager with severe personal issues who thinks people enjoy his rants

C) A lonely middle-aged man with severe personal issues who thinks people enjoy his rants.

D) Someone hired by a semi-retarded Chinese government agent to start an internet campaign to defame the US government.

[aoshi]

He might just be trying to be being funny.

[CitizenCain]

I don't think he really believes any of this. At least I hope not.

Kat is probably either:

A) Legitimately paranoid

B) A lonely teenager with severe personal issues who thinks people enjoy his rants

C) A lonely middle-aged man with severe personal issues who thinks people enjoy his rants.

D) Someone hired by a semi-retarded Chinese government agent to start an internet campaign to defame the US government.

This actually sounds like a textbook case of paranoid schizophrenia, honestly. He's found a particular delusion about how someone or something is out to get him (the US government, how cliche is that?), is immovably locked on to it and finds proof of it in everyday life, from a moving van across the street, to a family member's trips to front page news... to being banned for his spam at other forums. That's pretty textbook. But maybe he's just a very good faker... except that he does it in so many places online, for so long that it must take up almost all his liesure time.

[']['ear]

I don't think he really believes any of this. At least I hope not.

Kat is probably either:

A) Legitimately paranoid

B) A lonely teenager with severe personal issues who thinks people enjoy his rants

C) A lonely middle-aged man with severe personal issues who thinks people enjoy his rants.

D) Someone hired by a semi-retarded Chinese government agent to start an internet campaign to defame the US government.
This actually sounds like a textbook case of paranoid schizophrenia, honestly. He's found a particular delusion about how someone or something is out to get him (the US government, how cliche is that?), is immovably locked on to it and finds proof of it in everyday life, from a moving van across the street, to a family member's trips to front page news... to being banned for his spam at other forums. That's pretty textbook. But maybe he's just a very good faker... except that he does it in so many places online, for so long that it must take up almost all his liesure time.

Yeah, I agree with Cain. This is almost certainly a genuine case of mental illness: paranoid schizophrenia. It is quite textbook, from what I know of it.

The most godlike and subtle jokester in the world could not do this convincingly.

It probably also says that the rest of us should ignore it, since we probably aren't helping things at all. This is why I almost never respond to Kath, even though his sentiments rub me very much the wrong way and I abhore a conspiracy theorist. I just think that nobody at all wins.

[']['ear]

Schizophrenia:


Schizophrenia

A group of psychotic disorders characterized by disturbances in thought, perception, affect, behavior, and communication that last longer than 6 months.
Symptoms. For a material part of at least one month (or less, if effectively treated) the patient has had 2 or more of:

Delusions (only one symptom is required if a delusion is bizarre, such as being abducted in a space ship from the sun)

Hallucinations (only one symptom is required if hallucinations are of at least two voices talking to one another or of a voice that keeps up a running commentary on the patient's thoughts or actions).

Speech that shows incoherence, derailment or other disorganization

Severely disorganized or catatonic behavior Any negative symptom such as flat affect, reduced speech or lack of volition.

Duration. For at least 6 continuous months the patient has shown some evidence of the disorder. At least one month must include the symptoms of frank psychosis mentioned above. During the balance of this time (either as a prodrome or residual of the illness), the patient must show either or both:

Negative symptoms as mentioned above.

In attenuated form, at least 2 of the other symptoms mentioned above (example: deteriorating personal hygiene plus an increasing suspicion that people are talking behind one's back).

Dysfunction. For much of this time, the disorder has materially impaired the patient's ability to work, study, socialize or provide self-care.

Mood exclusions. Mood and schizoaffective disorders have been ruled out, because the duration of any depressive or manic episodes that have occurred during the psychotic phase has been brief.

Other exclusions. This disorder is not directly caused by a general medical condition or the use of substances, including prescription medications.

Developmental Disorder exclusion. If the patient has a history of any Pervasive Developmental Disorder (such as Autistic Disorder), only diagnose Schizophrenia if prominent hallucinations or delusions are also present for a month or more (less, if treated).

After at least 1 year as passed since onset, classify the course of psychosis. Until a year has passed, you cannot assign any of these course specifiers.

Continuous. There has been no remission of "A" symptoms (first bullet). If negative symptoms stand out, you can also add "With Prominent Negative Symptoms."

Episodic With Interepisode Residual Symptoms. During episodes, "A" criteria are met. Between episodes the patient has clinically important residual symptoms. If negative symptoms stand out, you can also add "With Prominent Negative Symptoms."

Episodic With No Interepisode Residual Symptoms. During episodes, "A" criteria are met. Between episodes the patient has remissions with no clinically important symptoms.

Single Episode in Partial Remission. There has been one episode during which "A" criteria are met. Now there are some clinically important residual symptoms. If negative symptoms stand out, you can also add "With Prominent Negative Symptoms."

Single Episode in Full Remission. No clinically important symptoms remain.
Other or Unspecified Pattern.

Clinical Types

| Paranoid Type | Disorganized Type | Catatonic Type | Undifferentiated Type | Residual Type |

Paranoid type

The patient meets the basic criteria for Schizophrenia.
The patient is preoccupied with delusions or frequent auditory hallucinations.

None of these symptoms is prominent:

Disorganized speech
Disorganized behavior
Inappropriate or flat affect
Catatonic behavior
Disorganized type

The patient meets the basic criteria for Schizophrenia
All of these symptoms are prominent:

Disorganized behavior
Disorganized speech
Affect that is flat or inappropriate
The patient does not fulfill criteria for Catatonic Schizophrenia

Catatonic Type

The patient meets the basic criteria for Schizophrenia
At least 2 catatonic symptoms predominate:

Stupor or motor immobility (catalepsy or waxy flexibility)
Hyperactivity that has no apparent purpose and is not influenced by external stimuli
Mutism or marked negativism
Peculiar behavior such as posturing, stereotypes, mannerisms or grimacing
Echolalia or echopraxia

Undifferentiated Type

The patient meets the basic criteria for Schizophrenia
The patient does not meet criteria for Paranoid, Disorganized, or Catatonic types.

Residual Type

The patient at one time met criteria for Catatonic, Disorganized, Paranoid or Undifferentiated Schizophrenia.
The patient no longer has pronounced catatonic behavior, delusions, hallucinations or disorganized speech or behavior.

The patient is still ill, as indicated by either:

1) Negative symptoms such as flattened affect, reduced speech output or lack of volition, or

2) An attenuated form of at least 2 characteristic symptoms of schizophrenia, such as odd beliefs (related to delusions), distorted perceptions or illusions (hallucinations), odd speech (disorganized speech) or peculiarities of behavior (disorganized behavior).

Associated Features

Learning Problem
Hypoactivity
Psychosis
Euphoric Mood
Depressed Mood
Somatic or Sexual Dysfunction
Hyperactivity
Guilt or Obsession
Sexually Deviant Behavior
Odd/Eccentric or Suspicious Personality
Anxious or Fearful or Dependent Personality
Dramatic or Erratic or Antisocial Personality

Differential Diagnosis:

Some disorders have similar or even the same symptom. The clinician, therefore, in his/her diagnostic attempt has to differentiate against the following disorders which he/she needs to rule out to establish a precise diagnosis.

Psychotic Disorder Due to a General Medical Condition, delirium, or dementia;
Substance-Induced Psychotic Disorder;
Substance-Induced Delirium;
Substance-Induced Persisting Dementia;
Substance-Related Disorders;
Mood Disorder With Psychotic Features;
Schizoaffective Disorder;
Depressive Disorder Not Otherwise Specified;
Bipolar Disorder Not Otherwise Specified;
Mood Disorder With Catatonic Features;
Schizophreniform Disorder;
Brief Psychotic Disorder;
Delusional Disorder;
Psychotic Disorder Not Otherwise Specified;
Pervasive Developmental Disorders (e.g., Autistic Disorder);
Childhood presentations combining disorganized speech (from a Communication Disorder) and disorganized behavior (from Attention-Deficit/ Hyperactivity Disorder);
Schizotypal Disorder;
Schizoid Personality Disorder;
Paranoid Personality Disorder.

Cause:

The cause of schizophrenia is unknown and schizophrenia cannot be cured, but it can be treated. Predictors for good treatment outcomes are normal adjustment before the onset of the disease and little or no family history of schizophrenia, confusion, paranoia, depression, or catatonic behavior. Some predictors for a poor outcome are: earlier age of onset, a family history of the illness, withdrawal, apathy, and prior history of a thought disorder. There are various theories to explain the development of this disorder. Genetic factors may play a role, as close relatives of a person with schizophrenia are more likely to develop the disorder. Psychological and social factors, such as disturbed family and interpersonal relationships, may also play a role in development.

Treatment:

Hospitalization, psychotherapy and drug treatment:
Counseling and Psychotherapy [ See Therapy Section ]:

Psychotherapy may be helpful in certain situations. Family therapy is often helpful to assist relatives in coping with the affected individual. Behavioral techniques used in a therapeutic setting, or in the home can help a person learn behaviors that will lead to social acceptance.

Hospitalization is often required to prevent self-inflicted harm or harm to others, and to provide for the person's basic needs such as food, rest, and hygiene.

First psychotic episode. Typical antipsychotic chosen based on side effects the patient will tolerate best (see examples below). Need 6 to 8 weeks at a therapeutic dose for adequate trial. If no response, consider switching to another typical antipsychotic class. If two typical antipsychotic trials fail, consider atypical antipsychotics(usually risperidone first, then olanzapine, and then clozapine). Prophylactic treatment is recommended for at least 6 months to 1 year. The above is usually done in consultation with a psychiatrist.

Relapsing psychosis. Requires long-term treatment with antipsychotics. Minimize dose to prevent long-term complications of antipsychotics (tardive dyskinesia).

Supportive psychotherapy Individual or family counseling may be a helpful adjunct to reduce risk for relapse.

Community programs Beneficial in providing support, social skills training, and vocational rehabilitation.

Pharmacotherapy [ See Psychopharmacology Section ] :

Antipsychotics: Doses and Side Effects for Chronic Use
Antipsychotics (typical).
Chlorpromazine (Thorazine).
Thioridazine (Mellaril).
Trifluoperazine (Stelazine).
Thiothixene (Navane).
Fluphenazine (Prolixin).
Haloperidol (Haldol).

Antipsychotics (atypical).
Risperidone (Risperdal).
Olanzapine (Zyprexa).
Clozapine (Clozaril).
source (http://www.psychnet-uk.com/dsm_iv/schizophrenia_disorder.htm)

Of course, like with bipolar, it is very difficult to get patients to maintain their medication. So it's not like medications don't help, it's that the disease is often diametrically opposed to the taking of medication.

[Lor]

I said the same thing as Cain a while back. :up:

[kathaksung]

398. April 18, the action date?(4/15/06)

The possible action date of April plot is 4/18. Or from 4/18 to 5/10. 5/10 is the date when Federal Reserve will have another meeting and likely to raise the interest rate another 0.25%. Which becomes a power to push D.O.J. hurriedly to finish the case because they hold too many real estates property.

As for 4/18, it's the 100th anniversary of the Great Quake of San Francisco. It is a good date to create a liquefaction quake. The coincidence will psychologically fits for a public propaganda.

4/18 is the date Chinese president Hu Jingtao starts his official visit to US. The framed case has been a secret deal between China and US. So will be this one. The case, I think, will still be a drug planting. And Taiwan is always a payment in the deal. Be noticed that the President of Taiwan, is once again arranged in a diplomatic trip on 5/8. (To South America and Africa) If the case broke out on 4/18, the rest is to confirm the deal when Hu meets Bush.

4/17 is also the date my parents come back from China. I think this was arranged by the US and Chinese secret police. Though trip used to be planned for a murder, this time it will be used for planting, I think.

4/17 is also the last date to file the tax return. I allege Feds will frame me in the case by tax flaw.

I have some merchandise left from business. Each year I reported the merchandise stock unchanged by schedule C. Each year there was a Schedule C form in the tax book IRS mailed me. But this year, for the first time, there was no C form in the tax book. Why? I think Feds wish to find an excuse to search the stock in the name of "no report".

The merchandise stock is piled in garage. In former messages, I talked about there were two big attempts Feds had tried to enter the attic and garage. (see "144. Roof contractor from Idaho (July, 2003)" and "300. Garage door (3/27/05)") I allege they had planted drugs in attic and garage, so when the disguised contractor enter the attic or garage in the name of roofing or replacing the garage door could claim they found drugs there. The coming April plot will frame me in same tactic by entering garage in the name of tax file inspection.

I have talked about the rest. Start from last December, I was urged to file the tax return. Then in a dispute about weather to report two rewards air tickets, my wife said she would report separately. I agreed.

But to my surprise, my wife and the accountant firm e-filed a joint return under my name without my consent. To lure me to sign the paper, my wife said she agreed to report the rewarded air ticket. Since they have e-filed the return already, I had to compromise. I reviewed the paper, found there were flaws: some income not reported, and of course, there was no Schedule C. I listed the flaw, demanded a correction. The accountant firm did an amendment. But still, they deliberately neglected two items on my list. They didn't report a tax refund income and the schedule C as well. So I made a second demand on these two. The reply this time was, the firm was too busy. I must do the adjustment by myself. Which meant I have to correct the document prepared by accountant firm by myself. I think that's illegal.

I suggest my wife to sign on the tax return I prepared while the firm declined to correct the errors. She refused without reason. She insisted that I sign on that flawed paper prepared by the accountant firm (or rather, the Feds). That's how D.O.J. to frame a case in a rogue's way. And you can imagine how the Feds intimidated my wife to do all these unreasonable things against me.

It seems I can only file a separate tax return. But I am afraid there will be an "accident" murder waiting for me. I hope I have the chance to talk about it sometime later.

I allege a big drug case will break out on 4/18. (or on 4/17 if they planted drug on my parents' luggage) And an liquefaction quake will follow to distract. Beware there also come the terror attack and the Bird Flu pandemic to keep public's attention from the case.

399. Unusual rain lasted 50 days (4/20/06)

"After getting rained on for 11 of April's first 16 days, South Bay residents will enjoy some long-overdue sunshine the entire work week, forecasters say. That's right: No rain, today through Friday. "(Mercury News 4/17) I should make a complement: After 50 days of nearly consistent raining, (from 2/26 to 4/16) this was the first time we saw a continue
sunny days. It made something common in California a news.

Did the nature deliberately rained between the issuing of the Liquefaction Quake risk map (2/25) and the 100th Anniversary of the Great Quake of San Francisco (4/18)? Did the nature know 4/17 was the day of my parents' returning and the last day of tax file? Or more reasonable, it was a climate manipulation to create a situation for a Liquefaction Quake? The rain, was accurate to the project date. The accuracy was similar to the hurricanes created in 9/24 plot.

The Liquefaction Quake did not only target on my house but also target on my sister's in San Francisco. San Francisco made a rain record in this unusual occasion. News reported San Francisco had a record wet March: 25 rainy days. (The old record was 23 rainy days in 1904) B's (my brother in law) house is at a hill side.

400. Bank robbery created for "mis-shooting" (4/20/06)

When my wife returned from her Asia trip on 4/9, she gave me another flawed tax file, pushing me to sign. I refused.

Since the accountant firm declined to correct the error, I once thought to file a separate one. On 4/12, I went to the post office to get some new tax forms. I think the surveillance team was urged to finish the case, (or as they were instructed to) they speculated I would sent the separated tax file next day and made a bank robbery case on 4/13.

The topic of Mercury News was: "Wild chase shuts I-680", "Money, gun tossed from pickup as police pursue band robbery suspects". (4/14)

Three suspects robbed a bank in Meridian Ave. They led police on a chase in north bound I-680. On Scott Creek Road, they made a turn, go back on highway 680 south bound and exited at Berryesa Rd. I looked at the map. My house is in the middle of the robbers' escaping journey. If I went to mail the tax return that day, I would have to pass I-680, the nearest exit to the Berryessa exit. When the robbers passed over the area where I live, they turned back and took an exit near to the road I had to take if I walked to the post office. I think I could be "mis-shot" by a policeman then.

Though it could be a coincidence, I think in other way. Because I had experience of a similar
occurrence. Seven years ago, there was a bank robbery case in San Francisco which I believe was a work of the Feds trying to kill me in the name of "mis-shooting". The plot went sour at last and caused the death of a robber and a police captain. I'll tell the story next time. Or you can have a search to see if there is something unusual in that case. It took place on 1/15/1999.

[BGTB2005]

Do you have anything better to do other than post conspiracy theories?

[Dreadnaught]

Kat, you shouldn't post things like "April 18- the action date?" on April 22 :bored:

[ACK!]

This guy reminds me of one of my friends. He thinks that everything the government tells us is a lie.