Amusement Industry Quiz

[rollerfreak83]

this new thread will be more organized than the last one as I have set some rules.
Rules:

1) No other questions can be posted until the current one has been answered

2)The minimum time period is 72 hours but if a guess is correct before that time the person who gave the question may over ride it.

3) If someone guesses correctly, they get to post the next question after the questioner indicates that they guessed correctly.

4) If no one guesses correctly after the 72 hour period has expired, the questioner must answer the question and must ask another question

The first question:
When was Cedar Point's Cyclone built, when was it torn down, and who was the designer?

[shock_man]

Built: 1929
Removed:1951
Designer: Harry Traver

[rollerfreak83]

You are correct shock_man. That question was easy for most of us here. Since you guessed correctly, you may now ask the next question.

[shock_man]

well i'll keep the subject on CP...

What was the first steel tracked roller coaster at Cedar Point?

[OhiocoasteR]

That would be 'Kiddieland Roller Coaster.'

from pointhype.com:

Kiddieland roller coaster
(Razed)
The Kiddieland roller coaster opened in 1957 at Kiddieland. This roller coaster was meant for small children and had gentle hills.

Wow, sounds exciting.

Shortly after, a Wild Mouse coaster was added in 1959 where Raptor now stands. That's gone, obviously.

Some fun facts about the Cedar Point Cyclone. The spot where it was built was the spot for the 1902 three way figure 8, and then the spot for the Racer coaster, then Cyclone, then Jumbo Jet (mmm, schwarzkopf), and now, Wildcat. yay.

[Harpo]

Sorry to disappoint you, but Disaster Transport now stands where Jumbo Jets used to stand (by the beach, next to Space Spiral). Wildcat was at that sight for a few years, but was moved when Avalanche Run (which was Disaster Transport before it was enclosed) was built. Wildcat was moved (well, replaced, actually-- the old one was sent to ValleyFair, and a new larger model was brought into Cedar Point) in order to make room for Oceana (now Cedar Point Aquatic Stadium). When Avalanche Run was built, Wildcat was moved to the site next to the Cedar Point Cinema (now the Good Time Theatre). Two "spin-n-go-puke" rides were moved out of that site to make room for Wildcat. One of those was Schwabinchen, which was moved to the Oceana midway replacing the Rotor which was removed from the park (also sent to ValleyFair, but it broke apart during transit). The other was Bayern Kurve, which was removed from the park. Incidentally, when Avalanche Run was built, Matterhorn also had to be moved to its current site, which was previously the site of the Tiki Twirl.

(Notice the "s" on the end of Jumbo Jets. I'm currently looking at a Cedar Point map from 1975, and it has the "s" on the end. Looking over this map, it is truly mindblowing how much the park has changed since 1975.)

[shock_man]

:D Ohiocoaster is correct, nice job i figured most people would say Wild Mouse. your turn.

[OhiocoasteR]

Alright, here's a tough question.

PAX, a coaster company in Russia, has premiered their largest coaster in the middle east. I want the coaster name, park name, park location, length, and height.

[kbendiksen]

Ok i'll try this.

Coaster Name: Al-Hamra
Park Name: Al-Hamra Village
Location: Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Length:402 meters
Height: 24 Meters

[OhiocoasteR]

darn the rcdb and fright time..

You're right.. I'll have to make these harder next time.

[kbendiksen]

Who built the first actual rollercoaster in the united states.
Where was it located, the year it was built and the name of
the coaster?

[David Ellis]

How about...

La Marcus Thompson

He built the Gravity Pleasure Switchback at Coney Island, New York. Opened in 1884 at a cost of $1600.

David.

[kbendiksen]

That is correct david. Your turn

[flgirl]

Originally posted by kbendiksen
That is correct david. Your turn

I found this on the web, this was the first roller coaster in the US:

http://www.oldcompanyslehigh.com/story1.jpg

Here is the link:

First Coaster in US (http://www.oldcompanyslehigh.com/story.htm)

[David Ellis]

The Mauch Chunk Railroad was considered the first US coaster, and certainly the longest (18 miles), but it is not a roller coaster as we would normally understand by the term.

My question then...

What was the first European Coaster, and when was it built?

David.

[raptor4928]

In 1817 France had developed a full-circuit rollercoaster... the name is something I could not find.

[kbendiksen]

flgirl below is the text straight from the history of roller coaster innovations. web site link for the web site is down below.


The first roller coaster actually built in the United States appeared at Coney Island, Brooklyn, New York in 1884. It was built by LaMarcus Thompson, and called the Gravity Pleasure Switchback Railway. Thompsonâs ride incorporated flat steel track nailed onto several layers of wooden planks. Two 45 foot towers were connected with track as shown in Figure 1. The ride reached a top speed of 6 miles per hour, and the train cars had to be manually towed to the top of the hills at the beginning of both tracks; the patrons were required to get out at the end of the first track and climb stairs to the second hill to board the train again for the return trip. Despite this exercise requirement and at only five cents per ride, the Gravity Pleasure Switchback repaid Thompson's capital investment in less than three weeks. LaMarcus Thompson, went on to build 24 more roller coasters. [Cartmell, 1989]

[flgirl]

Oh! I figured that the mine train coaster wouldn't count, but I thought it did fit in with the theme here and it was interesting.

[David Ellis]

Originally posted by raptor4928
In 1817 France had developed a full-circuit rollercoaster... the name is something I could not find.

The Promenades Aeriennes, built at Beaujon Gardens, Paris in 1817 was the first early racing coaster...but the first European coaster was older than that...keep trying!

David.

[flgirl]

Roller-coaster historian Robert Cartmell cites a ride in the Gardens of Orienbaum in St. Petersburg (1784) that featured "carriages which undulated over hills within grooved tracks."

No name for the coaster was given.

[David Ellis]

That's an interesting issue...whether it was a "coaster" but also whether Russia is in Europe. I always considered Russia to be in Asia, but I have also seen it listed as a European Country.

It wasn't the coaster I was thinking of...think more Western Europe.

David.

[flgirl]

Originally posted by David Ellis
That's an interesting issue...whether it was a "coaster" but also whether Russia is in Europe. I always considered Russia to be in Asia, but I have also seen it listed as a European Country.

It wasn't the coaster I was thinking of...think more Western Europe.

David.

In 1884 LaMarcus Thompson built his first roller coaster, known as the Gravity Pleasure Switchback Railway.

[David Ellis]

Originally posted by flgirl
In 1884 LaMarcus Thompson built his first roller coaster, known as the Gravity Pleasure Switchback Railway.

That is correct, but is not the answer to my question...which was... "What was the first European Coaster, and when was it built?".

Any more guesses? Bigger clue...it was in Paris.

David.

[Harpo]

Well, alright. Here goes.

In 1817, two wheeled coasters were built in Paris, being Les Montagnes Russes at Belleville, and Promandes Ariennes at the Beaujon Gardens in Paris. They had wooden cars, capable of speeds greater than 30 MPH.

However, historian Robert Cartmell indicated that a wheeled coaster known as the Switchback was built in 1784 in Russia at the Gardens of Oreinbaum in St. Petersburg as part of a pleasure complex known as Katalnaya Gorka.

Does this cover what you were seeking?

[raptor4928]

Naw Harpo, Mr Ellis had already denied both of those answers at being correct. The Paris rollercoatser you referred to wasnt the first true rollercoaster, and the 1784 coaster around Catherine the Great was Russia. Mr. Ellis, this one stumps me... please include a link to your answer whenever you provide it, if the time exceeds.

[flgirl]

This changed in 1817 when two coasters opened in Paris, Les Montagnes Russes and the Promandes Aeriennes. The cars on these rides were anchored to the track by an extension of the wheel axles projecting into grooves in the sides of the track. This made for a safer ride, which in turn meant that speeds could be increased up to about 30mph. When the cars reached the bottom of the track, at the end of the ride, they were manually pushed back to the top of the track to be used in the next ride. In 1826 a cable system was added, thus making the Paris coasters the first to utilise a mechanical system of hauling the cars up to the start of the ride.

[David Ellis]

Here is the answer I was looking for...

Les Montagnes Russes, built in the Ternes quarter of paris in 1804.

Here is a link (http://search.eb.com/coasters/1780.html)

Sorry if it was a tad difficult. Here's an easier one...

Who holds the record for the longest non-stop coaster riding marathon...and how long did they ride for?

David.

[flgirl]

Sydney, Australia - On Tuesday, April 6 after 40 days of riding 14 hours a day the final two contestants in the Whirl ŒTil You Hurl coaster riding marathon at Wonderland amusement park decided to get off the ride at the same time.

Steve Fletcher and Rosa Vacarro began riding the Bush Beast roller coaster on February 26 along with 22 fellow contestants. The two managed to endure forty, 14-hour days on the largest wooden roller coaster in the Southern Hemisphere.

In addition to riding all day, contestants were required to sleep in their seats at night. During the competition eleven walked off, and ten others were disqualified for breaking rules or health reasons.

The two winners will split the $20,000 prize, collecting a little over $6,300 each after taxes. The two contestants took 6,806 laps on the coaster and their winnings compute out to about 93 cents per lap.

[Harpo]

Originally posted by raptor4928
Naw Harpo, Mr Ellis had already denied both of those answers at being correct. The Paris rollercoatser you referred to wasnt the first true rollercoaster, and the 1784 coaster around Catherine the Great was Russia. Mr. Ellis, this one stumps me... please include a link to your answer whenever you provide it, if the time exceeds.

Actually, he listed the answer as Les Montagnes Russes, which is one of the two coasters I mentioned. However, David Bennett, in his book on the history of roller coasters, lists the debut of Les Montagnes Russes as 1817. I did not verify that information at an alternate source.

[David Ellis]

Originally posted by Harpo
Actually, he listed the answer as Les Montagnes Russes, which is one of the two coasters I mentioned. However, David Bennett, in his book on the history of roller coasters, lists the debut of Les Montagnes Russes as 1817. I did not verify that information at an alternate source.

Les Montagnes Russes (Russian Mountains) is a common name for coasters (also Montana Rusa). The 1804 and 1817 coasters are completely different rides!

David.

[David Ellis]

Originally posted by flgirl
Sydney, Australia - On Tuesday, April 6 after 40 days of riding 14 hours a day the final two contestants in the Whirl ŒTil You Hurl coaster riding marathon at Wonderland amusement park decided to get off the ride at the same time.

Steve Fletcher and Rosa Vacarro began riding the Bush Beast roller coaster on February 26 along with 22 fellow contestants. The two managed to endure forty, 14-hour days on the largest wooden roller coaster in the Southern Hemisphere.

In addition to riding all day, contestants were required to sleep in their seats at night. During the competition eleven walked off, and ten others were disqualified for breaking rules or health reasons.

Sorry flgirl...but your answer was not correct. The record for non-stop coaster riding is much longer than 40 days!

Also, if it was non-stop, how come they only rode 14 hours a day. It sounds like they slept in their seats whilst the coaster was closed for the night...my question stated non-stop riding!

More guesses please!

David.

[Coasterholic14]

really, it is almost impossible to ride NON-STOP for very long. You cant use the bathroom on a coaster, unless u have diapers. You cant eat well going up, down and all around. You cant really drink anything without getting it everywhere. How can u really ride non-stop. maybe a few hours, or even a day, but beyond that a person would have to use the bathroom, eat, or drink.

[pnkfloyd12]

Are searches allowed to find the answers?

Even Guiness Book of World Records allows for 5-minute breaks every so often. I don't know if that varies depending on what record you're trying to break, but there was guy over the weekend trying to break the non-stop bowling record. Guiness allowed him to take one 5 minute break every 8 hours.

The results I got when I did a search was that the guy who broke the record for non-stop riding took a 5-minute break every hour, excluding him from the Guiness Book of Records. If it's the same one David is talking about, it is MUCH longer than 40 days.

[flgirl]

Marathon ride on German coaster lasted for 1,040 hours

[David Ellis]

The Guinness Book of Records allows for a 5 minute break every hour. The record is longer than 1040 hours (that record was the most number of consecutive days riding all day on a coaster...the coaster wasn't run at night).
I think pnkfloyd12 is on the right track...so to speak.

David.

[flgirl]

Originally posted by David Ellis
The Guinness Book of Records allows for a 5 minute break every hour. The record is longer than 1040 hours (that record was the most number of consecutive days riding all day on a coaster...the coaster wasn't run at night).
I think pnkfloyd12 is on the right track...so to speak.

David.

Is this right?

Richard Rodriquez on the Grand National, was for about 257 days straight.

[David Ellis]

You are close flgirl...right person, wrong coaster.

Richard Rodrigues rode for 2000 hours on the Big Dipper at Blackpool Pleasure Beach between June and September 2000.
He rode for 83 days and nights (3 months), clocking-up an amazing 22,665 miles on the coaster. The woodie ran all day and all night, and Richard would ride all night, saving up the 5 minute breaks until the morning, when he would freshen up and have breakfast...allowing staff to do the usual track walks etc.

I rode with Richard as part of that marathon...for 2000 minutes (two days and two nights approx)...it was fun in the daytime, but the two nights I spent on the coaster were the longest of my life. I got soaked through, and bruised, and did not sleep for 2 days!

As you were closest flgirl, you can ask another question...unless you want your Disneyland question answered first!

David.

[pnkfloyd12]

That same guy broke the record again last year. This was taken from the CoasterBuzz website.

Chicago man Richard Rodriguez survived 104 consecutive days on Holiday Park's Expedition GeForce in Germany. While the five-minute breaks every hour excluded him from breaking his record with Guinness, he breaks his record set last year on The Boss at Six Flags St. Louis.

*edit*
Personally, I think the guy's insane. I wouldn't mind riding a coaster for 104 (or longer) consecutive days during the day, but not non-stop like that.
*/edit*

[flgirl]

Ok! I deleted the other post with the question and moved it to the end......this is the question:

What year did Walt Disney purchase the land for Disney World in Orlando, FL and how large a piece of land was it?

[David Ellis]

Originally posted by pnkfloyd12
That same guy broke the record again last year. This was taken from the CoasterBuzz website.

Chicago man Richard Rodriguez survived 104 consecutive days on Holiday Park's Expedition GeForce in Germany. While the five-minute breaks every hour excluded him from breaking his record with Guinness, he breaks his record set last year on The Boss at Six Flags St. Louis.

The 104 day session was not accepted as a Guinness record because the coaster only ran during the day (ie it was not non-stop) - the 5 minute rule is allowable by Guinness and was not the reason it didn't count.
However, hats off to Richard, as Expedition Ge-Force is an extreme coaster with a lot of airtime...he did well to survive one day's constant riding!
The record Richard beat was the number of consecutive days riding a coaster...but 104 x 10 hours per day = 1040 hours...just half what he rode in 2000 on the Big Dipper.

David.

[Coasterholic14]

Disney directed the purchase of 43 square miles of virgin land--twice the size of Manhattan Island--in the center of the state of Florida. Here, he master planned a whole new Disney world of entertainment to include a new amusement theme park, motel-hotel resort vacation center, and his experimental prototype community of tomorrow. After more than seven years of master planning and preparation, including 52 months of actual construction, the Walt Disney World Resort, including the Magic Kingdom Park, opened to the public as schedules on October 1, 1971. Epcot on October 1, 1982, and on May 1, 1989, the Disney MGM-Studio Theme Park Opened.

[flgirl]

The square milage is incorrect and you did not give the year of purchase.

[Ever_A_Newbie]

Actually, he never bought land for Disney World. He bought it for his idealistic concept Experimental Prototype City of Tomorrow. His concept never made it past his designs, as he died before it got off the drawing board. The EPCOT Disney World has today is a far cry from Walt Disney's concept of a city of the future.

Walt and his crew secretively bought over 27,000 (27,400 to be precise) acres near Orlando in the summer of 1964, 2 years before he died. In 1965 they announced they had bought 43 square miles of land, though you can still find the inaccurate mention of 47 square miles.

[flgirl]

everanew, you get to ask the next question

[Ever_A_Newbie]

My name is not "everanew", but be that as it may, I defer to David Ellis. I am not really into coaster trivia and usually don't follow this link. : ) I forget why I looked at it the other day. So, David - take it away....! (For the youngsters out there - line from an old TV series, not an insult .)

[David Ellis]

OK...so not to disappoint...

What coaster featured the first "Bat wing" element?

Have fun.

David.

[flgirl]

I'm taking a wild guess here:

Montu at Bush Gardens

[David Ellis]

Montu does indeed feature a Batwing element, but it wasn't the first.
Any other guesses?

David.

[flgirl]

Orient Express at Worlds of Fun was the first coaster ever to feature a batwing, it opened in 1980 and it was built by Arrow Dynamics

[David Ellis]

Unfortunately not. Orient express was the first coaster to feature a Boomerang element. Batwings didn't appear until 12 years later!

David.

[raptor4928]

Then I am just shooting in the dark when I try to answer this question to Mr Ellis, but is it Drachen Fire At BG Williamsburg?

[flgirl]

Originally posted by David Ellis
Unfortunately not. Orient express was the first coaster to feature a Boomerang element. Batwings didn't appear until 12 years later!

David.

David,
I took that right off a web site about the first batwing.

[David Ellis]

Originally posted by raptor4928
Then I am just shooting in the dark when I try to answer this question to Mr Ellis, but is it Drachen Fire At BG Williamsburg?

You are indeed correct! Your turn raptor4928!

Flgirl...I am interestd in what website that was...as I am pretty sure the information is wrong!

David.

[raptor4928]

Ok ladies and gentlemen, here we go.... Here is the million dollar question:

What coaster am I thinking of, right now?


Just Kidding. :D


Here is the real coaster question. Let's think back to the date of 4/14/1979. This was a great date in rollercoaster history. Why you ask? First off, this is exactly 5 months before I was born (Just thought I would throw that in there). Secondly, The Beast opened up as the world's longest wooden rollercoaster, and in my opinion, one of the world's greatest wooden rollercoasters, especially at night. To this day, no other wooden rollercoaster has come close to touching this record, relatively speaking, other than The Son of Beast, located at the same park. However, The Beast did not open up as THE longest rollercoaster in the world. There was another. The question is, what is the name of this rollercoaster and what park was/is it operating at? And what is the length of this rollercoaster?

[flgirl]

Originally posted by David Ellis

Flgirl...I am interestd in what website that was...as I am pretty sure the information is wrong!

David.

Here is the link to it:
http://granat.es.lth.se/~olofsrnm/rc/elements.php?element=batwing

[IEATPASTE001]

Drachen Fire had a cobra roll. no bat wing no nothing it is a cobra roll. I looked at RCDB and they had it listed as a batwing but it is a cobra roll. it was the first coaster to use a cobra roll. i have to agree with flgirl, she is correct.

[flgirl]

Originally posted by raptor4928

Here is the real coaster question. Let's think back to the date of 4/14/1979. This was a great date in rollercoaster history. The Beast opened up as the world's longest wooden rollercoaster, To this day, no other wooden rollercoaster has come close to touching this record, relatively speaking, However, The Beast did not open up as THE longest rollercoaster in the world. There was another. The question is, what is the name of this rollercoaster and what park was/is it operating at? And what is the length of this rollercoaster?

Mean Streak - 1991 - Cedar Point - 5,427 ft.

[raptor4928]

Naw Flgirl, I am looking for a rollercoaster that was open that was already open when The Beast debuted. But I will defend you, Orient Express does appear to have that answer... good job. On Rcdb, they list batwings as "Kamikaze Curves".

[flgirl]

Now you didn't specify that it had to be wooden, so:

Steel Dragon 2000, Nagashima Spaland, Japan - 8133 ft

http://www.coasterforce.com/images/steeldragon.jpg

I know this wasn't already open, but it is cool.

I also found this:
1978: The first coaster on mainland Europe with an inversion opens - the transportable Looping ... Until recently the world's longest roller coaster at 7452 feet. ...

[raptor4928]

Nope, this ride was even longer than the one you mentioned FlGirl, and it also predates both of your rides.

[David Ellis]

Originally posted by raptor4928
The Beast opened up as the world's longest wooden rollercoaster, and in my opinion, one of the world's greatest wooden rollercoasters, especially at night. To this day, no other wooden rollercoaster has come close to touching this record, relatively speaking, other than The Son of Beast, located at the same park. However, The Beast did not open up as THE longest rollercoaster in the world. There was another. The question is, what is the name of this rollercoaster and what park was/is it operating at? And what is the length of this rollercoaster?

Beats me...I know of no coaster operating in 1979 that was longer than the Beast.

David.

[raptor4928]

Ok here is a hint... this coaster originally opened in 1970, And the reason it was as long as it was, is due to the fact it was a twin racing coaster that was in fact one single track... So to put it mildly, twin racing coasters, one track, two stations, etc.... I hope this makes sense... Be cool, good luck...

It is Memorial Day weekend, I'll check back on this question off and on during the weekend.

[flgirl]

The Racer at Paramounts King Island

The Specs

Year Opened
1972

Hourly Capacity
1,320 guests each side (2,540 total)

Height of Lift Hill
88 feet

Length of Track
3,415 feet each track (6,830 total)

Ride Length
2 Minutes, 30 Seconds

Number of Trains
2 per side, one red and one blue, 30 guests per train

Maximum Speed
53 mph

Location
Coney Mall

Manufacturer
Philadelphia Toboggan, Philadelphia, PA

If this isn't it, I give up.

[raptor4928]

Sorry, Flgirl, thats not the coaster... besides, the Racers ar PKI are two separate tracks.

[kbendiksen]

Ok how about this:

Coaster Name: Daidarasaurus
Location: Expoland in Suita Japan
Length: 7677 feet 2 inches
Height: 93 feet 6 inches
speed: 45 mph
Builder: Sansei Yusoki Co. Ltd.
Opened in: 1970

History Note: This used to be a twin racing coaster. The two tracks were combined into one long track

[David Ellis]

I hadn't heard of that one, but according to RCDB it looks correct to me.

David.

[raptor4928]

Originally posted by kbendiksen
Ok how about this:

Coaster Name: Daidarasaurus
Location: Expoland in Suita Japan
Length: 7677 feet 2 inches
Height: 93 feet 6 inches
speed: 45 mph
Builder: Sansei Yusoki Co. Ltd.
Opened in: 1970

History Note: This used to be a twin racing coaster. The two tracks were combined into one long track

That is what I was looking for...you had to do a teency bit of digging for that one.... Good job kbendiksen. The ball is in your court, take it away.

[Squid2]

Minor note... Beast and Son of Beast aren't the longest wooden coasters anymore.

Squid2

[kbendiksen]

Here's my question

The last rollercoaster designed by John Allen was reported by the
Guinness book of world records for being the longest, tallest and fastest coaster in the world when it opened.

What was the name of this coaster,the year it was built,where is it located, it's length, height and speed.

[Squid2]

That wouldn't be the Great American Scream Machine at Six Flags Over Georgia, would it? Opened in 1970 or so... over 100ft tall, don't have the other stats off the top of my head.

Squid2

[kbendiksen]

That wouldn't be the Great American Scream Machine at Six Flags Over Georgia, would it? Opened in 1970 or so... over 100ft tall, don't have the other stats off the top of my head.

That is not the coaster i'm looking for.Though the great american scream machine was designed by John Allen it was not the last coaster that he designed.

[David Ellis]

How about...

Screamin' Eagle 1976
Six Flags St Louis,
Height 110ft (Drop 92ft)
Length 3872ft
Top Speed 62mph

David.

[raptor4928]

Originally posted by Squid2
Minor note... Beast and Son of Beast aren't the longest wooden coasters anymore.

Squid2

Then on that note, what is the longest wooden coaster in the world?

[shock_man]

Steel Dragon 2000

[kbendiksen]

How about...

Screamin' Eagle 1976
Six Flags St Louis,
Height 110ft (Drop 92ft)
Length 3872ft
Top Speed 62mph

David.


Good job, that is the answer i was looking for.
Next question is yours David

[David Ellis]

Which wooden coaster, when built in 1990, was the tallest in the world?

David.

PS The Beast and Son of Beast are still the longest two woodies in the world. I don't know of any longer ones.

[raptor4928]

The Texas Giant at Six Flags Over Texas was the tallest wooden coaster in the world at the time of opening.

[David Ellis]

Originally posted by raptor4928
The Texas Giant at Six Flags Over Texas was the tallest wooden coaster in the world at the time of opening.

Well done. Your turn!

David.

[raptor4928]

Ok here we go... trivia time. If a rollercoaster travels down a track at 120 mph, and the decorative wheel launches off at that speed, how far does the wheel.......

Ok Just Kidding, here is the real question. (And thank God nobody was hurt by that incident).

1984 was a phenominal year in rollercoaster design. In 1984 it saw the opening of the Big Bad Wolf at Busch Gardens Williamsburg. This rollercoaster was the sucessful version of a rollercoaster that is still existent today. This is a suspended rollercoaster. It's predecessor was the ill-fated 'Bat' at what is now Paramount's King's Island. The Bat stood where Vortex now stands today. Arrow was on to something when they debuted this design. However, in 1981, The Bat was not the world's first suspended coaster. I am looking for the park, name of the rollercoaster, and opening and closing date of the very first suspended rollercoaster that I am speak of. Good Luck.

[Coasterholic14]

Coaster name: Aerial Coaster
Location: Riverview Park, Chicago, Illinois, USA
Operating dates: 1908-1910

I think that is right!!!!

[Squid2]

I was mistaken. I thought Ultimate in the U.K. was a wooden coaster. It's not; it's a steel. (Dang wooden support structure...) The recordholder for longest wooden coaster is still Beast, followed by Son of Beast.

Squid2

[raptor4928]

Originally posted by Coasterholic14
Coaster name: Aerial Coaster
Location: Riverview Park, Chicago, Illinois, USA
Operating dates: 1908-1910

I think that is right!!!!


You got it.... Dang I should have made that question a bit harder. LOL :D Take it away Coasterholic.

[flgirl]

Originally posted by raptor4928
You got it.... Dang I should have made that question a bit harder. LOL :D Take it away Coasterholic.

Your friends like in great numbers, be long your worries rare and all your sausages!

Do I get anything for translating your sig?

[Coasterholic14]

hmmmmm...how about this...What is so special/patriotic about the roller coaster Revolution at Six Flags Magic Mountain, Valencia, California. I am saying besides the name Revolution and the park name, what else is so patriotic about this coaster??

[raptor4928]

There are a couple things special about the rollercoaster Revolution at SFMM... First-off, let's do the obvious... Revolution is the very first steel coaster to go upside down in a circular revolution.... So the meaning holds water there. Secondly, The ride also opened in 1976, which was 200 years after the American Revolution. So with these notions in mind, the rollercoaster Revolution was a revolutionary ride in itself (Yeah I am sorry, that was a bad pun).

[flgirl]

Originally posted by Coasterholic14
hmmmmm...how about this...What is so special/patriotic about the roller coaster Revolution at Six Flags Magic Mountain, Valencia, California. I am saying besides the name Revolution and the park name, what else is so patriotic about this coaster??

It's red, white & blue

[IEATPASTE001]

Cedar Points corkscrew has a verticle loop and opened on 5-15-1976 it has a verticle loop like revolutions, it is red white and blue, does anyone know when revolution opened up? it was in may of '76 but RCDB (the best and all knowing) doesn't have the exact date for revolutions grand opening.

[flgirl]

The Great American Revolution, as it was known when it opened in 1976, is a very significant ride in roller coaster history. It was the first modern roller coaster to feature a 360° vertical loop. The ride, designed by Anton Schwartzkopf, takes riders on a journey through the area's lush landscape as it travels through several hills, dips, and curves.
The ride features a height of 113-feet, a maximum speed of 55 MPH, and a track length of 3,457-feet. Highlights include a vertical loop, a 144-foot long tunnel, and a spiral at the end of the ride.

When Revolution first opened, the ride was equipped with lap-bars only, allowing for a very comfortable ride. In the 90s, over-the shoulder-restraints were added for safety and insurance issues, which decreased the ride's popularity among both park guests and enthusiasts.

Also, the ride used to run 5 trains simultaneously, which allowed for incredible capacity. Today, a maximum of 3 trains can be run at one time.

The Revolution is featured in several movies including "Roller Coaster" (1977) - in which the grand opening was restaged for the movie, "KISS Meets The Phantom of the Park" (1978), "Van Nuys Blvd." (1979), and "National Lampoon's Vacation" (1983).

The Revolution was once considered to be one of the greatest roller coasters on the planet. Today, the ride has lost some of its popularity, but it will never lose its historically significance.

[IEATPASTE001]

Yeah but what was the Date of its opening?


Revolution did nothing for the coaster world, it wasn't the first coaster to go upside down, it wasn't the first verticle loop. Knott's berry farm's Corkscrew had been going upside down twice, for over a year before Revolution did one, again Cedar Points Corkscrew is more revolutionizing then revolution it opened the same year same month, went upside down 3 times, more then any other coaster on the planet, had a verticle loop, and it was the first coaster to go over a midway, also making it one of the most photogenic coasters ev-AR! Revolution may have been a good ride when it opened but by saying it revolutionized the coaster world is absurd, for one we would have had a modern-day coaster with a verticle loop, IE CP's Corkscrew, which might have opened before revolution, and the fact being that CP's CS opened on May 15 1976 means Revolution could have opened a mere 14 days before it, since it too was debuted in May. Schwarzkopf made great rides, but to say Revolution did anything for the coaster industy is rediculous.

[Coasterholic14]

ok, to clarify something, i am not asking how Revolution relates to the coaster world, i am relating it to history, how is it patriotic, along with its name being Revolution (hint: use revolution as your big hint).

[raptor4928]

Ok, I know it opened in 1976, 200 years after the American Revolution, Declaration of Independence, etc... but let's take a stab in the dark here... Let's say that it also opened on July 4th 1976. But I believe the fact that it opened in 1976 alone is the tie-in with the name Revolution.

[IEATPASTE001]

Its full name when opened was the american revolution.

[Coasterholic14]

good job raptor4928, take it away.....

[raptor4928]

Thank you Coasterholic, and now to the question....

In honor of the fact college picks back up in one week, and in honor of the idea that I must take third level Calculus after a long hiatus since my last Calculus class, this bit o' trivia will involve a little math. Are you ready?

(The number of 'Flight of Fear' clones in the Paramount chain) x (The number of Batman: The Ride clones at Six Flags) / (The number of Deja Vu' Clones at Six Flags) + (The number of Dueling tracks in Dueling Dragons located at Islands of Adventures) + (The number of coasters above the 200 ft mark at Cedar Point) + (The number of Superman named coasters in The Six Flags chain, world wide).

Take that number, add 4 to it and you will get my age. Get that correct and it's your turn to ask the next question.

Note: In the Superman portion of the puzzle, I did include Superman: The Escape at Six flags Magic Mountain.

P.S.S. When considering the number of Batman clones, I also considered Six Flags as an international organization.

Good Luck.

[raptor4928]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by raptor4928
[B]Thank you Coasterholic, and now to the question....

In honor of the fact college picks back up in one week, and in honor of the idea that I must take third level Calculus after a long hiatus since my last Calculus class, this bit o' trivia will involve a little math. Are you ready?

(The number of 'Flight of Fear' clones in the Paramount chain) x (The number of Batman: The Ride clones at Six Flags) / (The number of Deja Vu' Clones at Six Flags) + (The number of Dueling tracks in Dueling Dragons located at Islands of Adventures) + (The number of coasters above the 200 ft mark at Cedar Point) + (The number of Superman named coasters in The Six Flags chain, world wide).

Take that number, add 4 to it and you will get my age. Get that correct and it's your turn to ask the next question.

Note: In the Superman portion of the puzzle, I did include Superman: The Escape at Six flags Magic Mountain.

P.S.S. When considering the number of Batman clones, I also considered Six Flags as an international organization.

Good Luck.

And P.S.S.S... I know that 5 o'clock in the morning is a bit early to be editing posts, but hey, I had to work early today... on a friggin Saturday... at 5:30 in the morning, but for only half a day. I envy those of you who get to sleep in... at this point in time, I sure do miss it.

[David Ellis]

Well, I'll have a go...

2 x 8 / 4 + 2 + 4 + 12 + 4 = 26

Am I close?

David.

[raptor4928]

You are close, but thats not correct.

[xman]

Originally posted by raptor4928
Ok, I know it opened in 1976, 200 years after the American Revolution, Declaration of Independence, etc... but let's take a stab in the dark here... Let's say that it also opened on July 4th 1976. But I believe the fact that it opened in 1976 alone is the tie-in with the name Revolution.


Just wanted to though a little more info about this ride.


According to the ACE historical coaster maker located at the entrance to the ride.

It opened May 8,1976. The name when it opened was The Great American Revolution. It was the feature coaster in the movie Rollercoaster in 1977. It was also in Vacation.

[raptor4928]

Dang, was ths question way to hard? C'mon people.... I still have faith in you... Don't let my easy question be the death of the Amusement Park Industry Quiz thread....

Everyday I will post the answer to one of the segments of the puzzle....

6-3-03 There are two Flight of Fear clones in the Paramount chain (1 @ PKI; 1 @ PKD)
6-4-03 There are 9 Batman: THe Ride clones in The Six Flags chain worldwide.






Final equation as of now: 2 x 9 / C +D + E +F + 4

Batman: The Ride locations (SFSL, SFOT, SFOG, SFNO, SFMex, SFMM, SFGA, SFGrA, WBMW)

[flgirl]

your either 24 or 32

[IEATPASTE001]

he is 23

[shock_man]

i think he wants you guys to show you're math.

[raptor4928]

Ieatpaste is right, I am 23....... but.... On the initial puzzle, I messed up on a certain aspect, and there is a new calculation... 23 is not the correct answer... so the correct answer isn't technically my age.

[David Ellis]

Can you give us the answer that your calculation resulted in? i.e. can you give the individual figures and the incorrect answer (that wasn't your age)?

Thanks,
David. (I want to see where I went wrong!)

[raptor4928]

Originally posted by David Ellis
Can you give us the answer that your calculation resulted in? i.e. can you give the individual figures and the incorrect answer (that wasn't your age)?

Thanks,
David. (I want to see where I went wrong!)

I gave the answer that my my calculation resulted in, would that not be the answer I am looking for?

[flgirl]

Is there a new question??????????

[raptor4928]

Originally posted by flgirl
Is there a new question??????????

not yet

[David Ellis]

[Final equation as of now: 2 x 9 / C +D + E +F + 4
Batman: The Ride locations (SFSL, SFOT, SFOG, SFNO, SFMex, SFMM, SFGA, SFGrA, WBMW) [/B]

Six Flags Mexico??? The ride called Batman The Ride at that park is a Vekoma SLC...not a B&M Batman Clone!! No wonder I couldn't get the correct answer.

David.

[IEATPASTE001]

28 the answer is 28!

[raptor4928]

Sigh.... Thank you IEATPaste... you got it... The ball is in your court now....


And yes, my apology..... This question was a failure the first time around... sorry bout that DaveEllis, I suppose I should have done a teeny tiny more reesearch.... :(

[IEATPASTE001]

i will post a new question tomorrow, i will try to get a good one.

[flgirl]

I have a question, if I may jump in....

At the turn of the century, trolley companies built amusement parks at the end of their lines to attract evening and weekend riders. What is the best-known trolley terminus?

[IEATPASTE001]

how big is Cedar Points parking lot, and how much space does Raptor take up. Get these correct and you hold the key, to free peoples mind's! ARGH! too much matrix aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!

[flgirl]

Originally posted by IEATPASTE001
how big is Cedar Points parking lot, and how much space does Raptor take up. Get these correct and you hold the key, to free peoples mind's! ARGH! too much matrix aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!

The Parking Lot

Width: .5 miles
Length: 1 mile

Raptor streatches across the entire midway. (there were no sites where the dimentions were given for the amount of space it takes up)

[IEATPASTE001]

sorry the key word i forgot was acre.

[David Ellis]

Originally posted by flgirl
I have a question, if I may jump in....

At the turn of the century, trolley companies built amusement parks at the end of their lines to attract evening and weekend riders. What is the best-known trolley terminus?

Is it Kennywood park?

David.

[flgirl]

Originally posted by David Ellis
Is it Kennywood park?

David.

Sorry, no it's not. A hint....I don't think there is anyone who has not heard of it.

[IEATPASTE001]

Coney Island

[flgirl]

Originally posted by IEATPASTE001
Coney Island

Was my hint too obvious? Your right!!

[IEATPASTE001]

Kinda but the only other place that has alot of history with trollies is san fransisco, and they only have VW bugs a saturn fan club, and thats about it, i know coney island use to have trollies by it. and come on Coney Island was a real hot spot at the turn of the centuray! :D

[IEATPASTE001]

So anyone know the acres of the parking lot and how many acres raptor takes up? oh yeah this question can not be answered by Harpo! hehe

[flgirl]

I don't think anyone can find the acre answer, all I could find was the miles for the parking and nothing for the ride acreage. Want to give us the answer?

[raptor4928]

No IEATPASTE, dont give the answer just yet... I will attempt to find the answer after class tonite and after I have odne my studying. You shouldnt have to give out the answer just because the answer doesnt jump out and smack everybody on the face. Just because you didnt find your data on rcdb.com, doesnt mean that there is NO answer to the question.

And flgirl, have you thought of converting the square milage into acres? Just use a little math. You could have had this answer a looooooooooong time ago.

[Coasterholic14]

ok...i have the square acres of parking. The main parking lot is 64 acres.

I am still working on the acres raptor takes up. But might as well make a random guess of 4 acres. (i havent been there in a while so i dont remember how big it was)

[Hyde244]

Well, I'm guessing about 3 and a half acres for the Raptor.

[IEATPASTE001]

Well the raptor question seem to have stumped you! hehe i love this, hehe.

[Hyde244]

tell us already!!!

[IEATPASTE001]

No way this is a good Question unless you want me to ask another question?




:D

[Coasterholic14]

i got the parking acreage right didnt i?

[flgirl]

Fine, tell us the answer and ask another one.

[IEATPASTE001]

OK, coasterholic got one correct but you had to get both to win. The parking lot takes up 64 acre's of the 364 acre plot of land, and raptor takes up..............................6 acre's. well i will think of another good question tomorrow when i can think some more.

[flgirl]

Here's a question:

As of the year 2001, what was the tallest closed circuit roller coaster in the world?

[kbendiksen]

Titan @ Six Flags Over Texas

Statistics
Length (feet): 5312'
Height (feet): 245'
Drop (feet): 255'
Inversions: 0
Speed (mph): 85
Duration (m:ss): 3:30
Capacity (riders per hour): 1600


Vehicles
Arrangement: 3 trains with 5 cars per train. Riders are arranged 2 across in 3 rows for a total of 30 riders per train.

Other Information
Features: 120 foot tunnel

[raptor4928]

Well it's not technically your turn FlGirl, but the answer is Steel Dragon 2000.

Edit: God question Ieatpaste, glad you thought of a question that could stump everybody. Where's the next one... it's the weekend, I have a good question, so I wish to play. :D :D

[IEATPASTE001]

Go ahead Raptor, i am not gonna ask another one, i decided it would be too hard cause you can't find that answer on a website lol.

[flgirl]

Originally posted by raptor4928
Well it's not technically your turn FlGirl, but the answer is Steel Dragon 2000.

:D :D

Sorry, I got impatient waiting for another question...and your answer is right..of course...I didn't make it hard.

[raptor4928]

No biggie, Flgirl, I completely understand. This thread does die when awaiting the next person to ask the question... ;)

So without further ado, lets begin. I am tired of talking about Cedar Point and Six Flag parks in particular; so let's focus on one particular brand of park: Paramount parks. This is a two part question. First off, I want to know what the fastest rollercoaster at a paramount park is. However, here is the key. I do not want any powered launched rollercoasters included in this search.... no LIM's... No Air powered.. only full circuit, gravity propelled rollercoasters in the Paramount chain in North America. This would include Canada as well. Now when you find that coaster, you obviously know what park it resides in. so THE question is: How many B&M rollercoasters currently reside in said park? You get this right, you get the valuable right to ask the next rollercoaster/theme park trivia question.

Now to recap.

A) What is the fastest gravity propelled rollercoaster in the North American, Paramount theme park chain?

B) How many B&M rollercoasters are currently in the park where this rollercoaster resides?

Good luck.

[IEATPASTE001]

Son of Beast in Paramount King's Island, in Kings Mills Ohio, it goes 78.4 mph and that park has no B&M coasters.

[raptor4928]

yeah perhaps that was a bit easy, but oh well... your turn IEATPASTE.

Edit: As of 12:35 p.m, as I was checking out TTD, it appears that No Thrill Dragster, is called this no more... It appears to be.... gasp!.... open!

[IEATPASTE001]

ok here is a question for the math people.


A) what is Dragsters Projected Capcity, when not broken down cause they put the hydrolic launch room together wrong ;) ?



B) and at what interval would they have to be launching the trains to get said capacity?


i am looking for estimates for the capacity and i am looking for whole numbers for the intervals. if you don't get the question let me know i will explain better.

[raptor4928]

Oh I LOVE math questions.... I'll get back to you on this one.

[Top Thrill Drag]

I'm pretty sure that the capacity is supposed to be approximately 1,200 riders per hour--right?

*And actually Top Thrill Dragster opened again on 6/14 and is set to be running today 6/15 as well--thats what CP's website says...

[IEATPASTE001]

Top Thrill Drag you are absolutly incorrect, i am asking for the estimated capcity of TTD not the real capcity, which on opening day was less then Wildcat! but i want the estimated People Per Hour, not the actual, that is about 1000-1200 PPH

[raptor4928]

According to the cameras on the website, TTD is NOT running. Nobody is in line for it at least. I wouldnt count on it being open until Wednesday, and that just seems like an appropriate amount of time.

Ieatpaster, do you want us to estimate what the PPH is as of now on TTD? In that case, isnt it about 48pph.... with all the bugs within the ride? :D Just kididng... but is that what you are asking for?

[IEATPASTE001]

No i am looking for the estimated capacity, it was given in the press release, if that helps.

[Harpo]

According to Cedar Point, TTD is estimated to handle about 1500 riders per hour. With 16 people per train, 1500 per hour equates to 93.75 trains per hour, or 1.5625 trains per minute, or 0.026 trains per second. Taking the inverse, we get 38.4 seconds per train. Of course, you said you wanted a whole number, so we'll round that down to 38 seconds per train. Naturally, shaving that 0.4 seconds off the launch time will increase the ridership to 1515.7895 riders per hour.

See what happens when you ask an engineer a mathematics-based question? Scary, ain't it?

[BraveChamp]

...thank goodness, I thought I was the only person who took time out to actually compute things like that...:D

[IEATPASTE001]

CARP! i knew i forgot something to that question! Harpo can't guess these! oh well Harpo my TTD riding friend, it is your turn!

[Harpo]

OK, I'm not sure this two-parter is fair, but I'm going to ask it anyway.

Part one: When the bidding was going out for casinos in Detroit, there was one bid tied to a celebrity and a cable television company owner. This pair (who failed to get a casino bid) wanted to build a casino with an amusement park in downtown Detroit, complete with roller coasters. Who was the celebrity?

Part two: The saga of potential theme parks in Detroit continues. There is currently a proposal on the table to convert a Metro Detroit landmark into a theme park. One of three active proposals, it's not bloody likely. Regardless, the proposal is out there, so there's still a chance. What is the Metro Detroit area landmark that would be transformed into a theme park under this proposal?

[Top Thrill Drag]

Hmm Paste u make it seem like i should have to apologize for being "absolutely incorrect". I took a guess and sorry that i am not into all of the specifics about every roller coaster. I took a guess and there was NO NEED to put it in those words. Maybe if you were a little more clear with your question, i wouldn't have to be typing this right now.

[xman]

Wait a second there TTD. I know paste and I think that he was doing a game show style your wrong but thanks for playing here are you parting gifts kind of thing. Don't take it so personal. I know that when reading typed words you can't see the expression that is meant to be. The only way he would be nasty to people is if they have proven that they need it. From what I have seen you don't need it so it was most likely not meant to be that way. He is really a fun guy until you tick him off then lookout. Just ask what happened to Alphamale.

[IEATPASTE001]

TTD, i for sure wasn't trying to make fun of you. sorry for ruffling your feathers. sorry you miss interperited(sp?) the question. Again sorry.


Harpo, i know some of hte answers it was Jacko and Disney for a casino, and the Silver dome with be home to the next Intamin Rocket Coaster!(TEAG RIGHT LIKE THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN PONTIAC!!!LOL) Is the Silverdome, home to one of the biggest indoor crowd level at none other then Wrestle Mainia 3! Hulk-A-MAINIA Body-slammed Andre the Giant for the title! hehe, yeah i am not even 10 minutes away from the Silverdome! hehe

[rollerfreak83]

The landmark that Harpo is refering the Pontiac Silverdome. This was the former home of the Detroit Lions and still is one of the largest covered stadiums around. Its days are numbered though, as is to be torn down after 2006 and replaced with one of the three propsals. Detroit needs a theme park, not more Condos, hugh shopping malls (there are already too many), 20-30 screen Multiplexes, ect. I am tired of suburban sprawl. I think there needs to be more focus on redeveloping Detroit and changing its image than on how many movie screens is the next Multiplex is going to have.

[Squid2]

Hey, movieplexes are alright! I gotta work somewhere! :D Seriously, you probably won't see another 'plex built with over 24 screens, and it'll probably stay at 20 or lower. The larger ones really aren't cost effective, not from an attendance/finanical standpoint, but the fact that there's not enough films being made to fill the screens.

Squid2

p.s. Harpo, how was your trip?

[flgirl]

Originally posted by Squid2
Hey, movieplexes are alright! I gotta work somewhere! :D Seriously, you probably won't see another 'plex built with over 24 screens, and it'll probably stay at 20 or lower. The larger ones really aren't cost effective, not from an attendance/finanical standpoint, but the fact that there's not enough films being made to fill the screens.

Squid2

There is a 30 in my town and it is always packed

[Harpo]

Originally posted by IEATPASTE001
Harpo, i know some of hte answers it was Jacko and Disney for a casino, and the Silver dome with be home to the next Intamin Rocket Coaster

Well, I'm going to give you the credit for it, although that's not entirely correct, but it answered the question as it was stated. After all, I only asked for the celebrity (although I would have preferred seeing Michael Jackson's full name!) in the first part. Disney had nothing to do with it. His partner was a Detroiter -- I believe the name was Barden, who also owns a cable system in Detroit. I think he's still trying to sue for the opportunity to build a permanent casino.

As for the proposed theme park, one of the three proposals for the Pontiac Sliverdome, er, Silverdome is for a year-round theme park. It was unclear whether this proposal would involve tearing down the Silverdome. (Heck, if they kept the building, perhaps they could call it BubbleWorld.) Of the other two proposals, one would keep the building, the other would destroy it. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

[Harpo]

Originally posted by Squid2
p.s. Harpo, how was your trip?

Forgot to respond to you earlier today! Sorry about that!

The trip was awesome. It's not too surprising that it was tiring, but it was a great trip. The only problem -- it was too darn short!

One really neat bonus: On the final day, I went for a repeat visit to World of Fun. (I had tentatively planned to go to Oceans of Fun, but it was a bit too cold, only getting into the mid-60's.) Shortly after arriving, I spotted a familiar face on the midway. I went over and said, "Hello, Mr. Kinzel."

For those who are not familiar with the name, Dick Kinzel is the CEO of Cedar Fair. Additionally, he's a very nice person, hence it was a real pleasure to be able to chat with him for a couple of minutes.

[flgirl]

What's the next question???????

[flgirl]

What is the newest ride at Universal Studio's Florida?

[bigrobo89]

isnt it that jimmy neutron adventure thing. Or it could be shrek 4d

[flgirl]

Originally posted by bigrobo89
isnt it that jimmy neutron adventure thing. Or it could be shrek 4d

Those are new, but are listed as attractions, I'm looking for the newest ride.

[bigrobo89]

is it exclusively just universal florida or with islands of adventure aswell?

[bigrobo89]

actually jimmy neutron is listed as a ride:

NEW RIDE! Blast off as Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius® sends you through the worlds of your favorite Nicktoons®.

So i think that counts then

[bigrobo89]

:bulb: Its all gone very quiet.....:(

Shame. Because i
no the answer.

:cool:
Could flgirl pease respond so i can ask i a question because i have one
:cool:

adios/

[IEATPASTE001]

Actually it is Raptors turn to ask a question, not FLgirls.


Go ahead raptor.

[raptor4928]

Originally posted by IEATPASTE001
Actually it is Raptors turn to ask a question, not FLgirls.


Go ahead raptor.

Naw, it isnt my turn, I havent been playing for awhile... LOL The last question I asked was answered already... so been there done that....LOL BigRobo, just go ahead and go, as to get this board moving.

[bigrobo89]

ok then, i'm not sure how difficult people might find this, but here it goes anyway.

'how long is alton towers river rapids ride, to the nearest meter'?

If its too hard then let me no, but we'll see anyway:p

[IEATPASTE001]

725metres

that is my guess for the rapids ride at AT.

[bigrobo89]

sorry ieatpaste but that isnt it

if it helps it tells you on the on ride photo;)

thats were i got it from

[IEATPASTE001]

I got that from an Alton Towers site, what ride are you asking for? i got that for the kongo river rapids, is that the one your talking about? i might not have the name correct but that was the only rapids ride i could find in the park.

[bigrobo89]

:( Thats the right rapids yeah,

youre probably right, the on ride photo that i took the question stated a much larger number, but that could have included other things with it...

I'll go with your answer so you can ask a question.


The answer i had was 2379m, which did seem a little long but hey.

:confused:

[IEATPASTE001]

That might be the space it takes up not the actual "track" of the ride.


Well i forfit my turn to Raptor, he gets to ask the question, the only real good stumpers i have aren't on the internet, well most likely they aren't lol.

[bigrobo89]

:o possibly yes.

OK THEN


You should try the hard ones, there more fun than ones that people can guess off the top of their heads, so your choice...:up: :haha:

[raptor4928]

Ok then, if the turn is forfeited to me, here we go. As I am going to CP next weekend (and yes I am looking forward to it) I am in a bit o' mood for a little Cedar Point trivia. However, on a side note, I still have a Physics quiz and an exam plus a Calc 2 exam to contend with before the week is up... I must be lucky. Anyways, lets just consider two of the different manufacturers of the many coasters that are manufactured at CP: B@M and Intamin. How man of these coasters that are produced by B&M and Intamin, and are at CP, have clones in some other locale in the world. Now note a clone does NOT have to be at a Cedar Fair brand name park, it just needs to have the same track layout. Shouldnt be two hard, if memory serves correctly, there are only 5 coasters out of 16 you have to evaluate. Good luck.


And P.s, when I go Saturday, assuming TTd is actually running, I might even get in line for it. :D

[IEATPASTE001]

Raptor was cloned in japan.

[raptor4928]

That is one, gimme names here people :D

[Top Thrill Drag]

The raptor clone is orochi at Expoland

and i guess you could call chang at SFKK a clone of mantis?

[Harpo]

Originally posted by Top Thrill Drag
The raptor clone is orochi at Expoland

and i guess you could call chang at SFKK a clone of mantis?

Chang is very similar to Mantis, but they're track layouts are not identical.

[Top Thrill Drag]

yeah, thats why i put the question mark at the end. Chang is almost a copy of Mantis, but it is slightly larger and has one more inversion in place of Mantis' spaghetti-bowl figure-eight finale. (IMO, Mantis is the better ride. Yes, I've ridden them both)

[raptor4928]

Looking fpr the name of the coaster that is the clone, and I would like a definitive answer (as in you give the impression that what you are stating is the answer.... no questionmarks etc.

[Coasterholic14]

r u including kiddie/family coasters?

[raptor4928]

yes, that includes all B&M and Intamin coasters at CP.

[IEATPASTE001]

Raptor was cloned in Expoland, that is in Japan the coasters name is Orochi.

[raptor4928]

but is raptor the only one?

[Top Thrill Drag]

I think the Jr. Gemini was a clone or has a clone

[raptor4928]

Ok.. Wehn you answer the question, I am looking for you to say it in a declarartive way. Here's an example. there are clones of Batman the Ride at other Six flags parska across the nation. I ask that you answer it this way, as to not give away the answer when people guess.

[Top Thrill Drag]

Fine, the Jr. Gemini has a clone in some other park in the world and I'm just too lazy too find that park now.

[IEATPASTE001]

Dude Jr. Gemini wasn't cloned elsewhere i looked. If it was RCDB(The End All of Everything Coasters ;) ) Didn't say it was. and raptor was only cloned once. the only other rides made by B&M there is Mantis. the following are Intamin AG:


Jr. Gemini
Avalanche Run/ Diaster Transport
Millennium Force
Wicked Twister
Top Thrill Dragster


All of which haven't been cloned.

[Harpo]

Well, of course, in addition to the clone of Raptor which has already been mentioned...

Wildcat is a production-model Schwartzkopf scream machine. Cedar Point's is the largest of the 3 Wildcat models. Based upon statistics I've been able to find, there are at least 2 more of the large models currently in existence, being Montana Rusa at Bosque Magico, and Sewer Rat at Ligh****er Valley. Of course, if you look at all three sizes, there are many Wildcats still in operation, including some at traveling fairs.

Additionally, Woodstock's Express is the largest size of the Vekoma Roller Skater models, being the 335m variety. There are quite a few of these in existence. Of course, Cedar Point's has a customized train, including that little yellow bird known as Woodstock.

They are NOT clones, but it should be noted that Cedar Point's Corkscrew is very similar to the Corkscrew at ValleyFair!. The ValleyFair! version has a helix that is not included on Cedar Point's version.

[Coasterholic14]

It's hard to tell, but I think disaster transport is a larger copy of la vibora. It is hard to tell though, because you can't visibly see disaster transport, and i never really saw it as avalanche run.

[raptor4928]

Originally posted by IEATPASTE001
Dude Jr. Gemini wasn't cloned elsewhere i looked. If it was RCDB(The End All of Everything Coasters ;) ) Didn't say it was. and raptor was only cloned once. the only other rides made by B&M there is Mantis. the following are Intamin AG:


Jr. Gemini
Avalanche Run/ Diaster Transport
Millennium Force
Wicked Twister
Top Thrill Dragster


All of which haven't been cloned.


Thank you IEATPASTE, that was the answer I was looking for. The ball is now in your court.

[bigrobo89]

right now i no its not my turn, but since ieatpaste dosent seem to be replying any time soon i thought i would post a question:


At Alton Towers England, what was the latest adition to the gloomy wood section... & what did it replace?

[kbendiksen]

Duel-The haunted house strikes back! which replaces the orignal haunted house.

[IEATPASTE001]

Ok here it goes, sorry i was out and very sick today. What was the original name for Mantis? and what coaster now uses Its logo? For bonus points, tell me the color of the original coaster, why it was changed, and where Mantis was painted!


PS harpo cannot answer unless everyone gets stumped by this one.

[Harpo]

D'Oh! And I could even scan a postcard with the original logo!

The card says:
"Stand Up And Scream In '96! With a 1996 Season Pass you'll thrill to {name omitted here}, our newest world-class roller coaster. The biggest and fastest stand-up coaster in the world, {name omitted here} will scream you along an incredible path that'll spin you upside down four times!"

I can't recall where I wrote them down, but I also had a couple really tough questions to ask! If you're feeling brave, let me know, and maybe I'll share those!

[raptor4928]

I have it IEATPASTE... the original name for Mantis was 'Banshee'. Thought that was common knowledge.


P.S. And on the idea of Cedar Point, will anybody else be attending CP on Sat June 27th and Sun June 28th? Anybody wanna come ride TTd with me.... oh D'oh!..... I forgot, it's not running....LOL

[Top Thrill Drag]

o and the ride that uses its little banshee is Dorney Park's Steel Force. I'm also pretty sure that is was going to be colored the same no matter what cause i got a postcard with the logo on it and it was puruple red and yellow.

*also its official, if TTD isnt open by mid-july, they might close it for the season, but that Witherow lady says its a last resort. Someone in the article (which was in my newspaper) said that if it does not reopen at all this season, it might push back "future expansions", which im guessing is a new ride.

[CoasterXtremist]

http://www.virtualmidway.com/news/0627031.asp

The link to what Top Thrill's talking about.

[raptor4928]

Banshee's name was changed to Mantis for the idea that a Banshee screams right before somebody is about to die.... associating death with riding a rollercoasters didnt seem like a wise way to promote coasters, as CP though... so hence, Mantis.

[flgirl]

I'm lost what is the current question?

[raptor4928]

Ok then as I may not have the official claim of 'question bearer' I am kinda tired of seeing this thread lie dormant...LOL So here we go, let's revive it. Here is the question,,,


As we all know, Ohio is home to some good parks... some great ones arguably. And Ohio is very rich in various types of rollercoasters. Here is the question: Name all rollercoasters in Ohio that have drops of 200 ft or more.... Good Luck.

[Dr Funkenstein]

In no particular order...

1. Son of Beast @ Paramount's Kings Island (my home park) in Kings Mills, Ohio. 214 ft first drop.
2. Top Thrill Dragster @ Cedar Point in Sandusky, Ohio. 400 ft drop.
3. Millennium Force @ Cedar Point. 300 ft. drop.

Magnum XL-200 is over 200 ft. tall, but it's drop misses the 200 ft mark by about 5 ft.

[CoasterXtremist]

Your question, Dr Funkenstein?

[Dr Funkenstein]

Alright. This should be easy.

Everybody knows that Mantis @ Cedar Point was originally going to be named Banshee. A logo was made for Banshee, too, but when they changed it to Mantis, Banshee's logo didn't die. It is now the logo of another coaster.

What is the coaster and the park where the coaster is located?

[shock_man]

i'm shooting for the moon here. is it Steel Force at Dorney Park?

[CoasterXtremist]

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[Dr Funkenstein]

Shock_man is correct. Since I don't want to leech off of CoasterGallery, here is a link to the image:
http://www.coastergallery.com/2000/dorney26.html

Have your self a nice, big, fictional cookie.;)

[raptor4928]

Very good Dr Funk, had to make it simple so as to get the ball rolling on this thread again.... it is yours.

[CoasterXtremist]

What's the current question?

[shock_man]

ok this should be pretty easy. tell me the total number of inversions for the CedarFair park franchise.

[Top Thrill Drag]

Now, this is a stab in the dark, but i think its 35

[shock_man]

nope

[Top Thrill Drag]

i dont think im wrong--i think what i might have done is (for example) on Boomerangs, i only counted it as three inversions, not six. and a ride like montezoomas revenge i only counted as one. For these reasons i dont think im wrong.

[bigrobo89]

complete guess 41??

[jet_flyer]

ALL WILL SOON REALISE!!! SAVE ATARI!!! FIRE JELLY THE MORON

[jet_flyer]

I am a rougue. Only way to control me is to ban me. I welcome it.

[CoasterXtremist]

Atari needs to be saved. You all must agree...

Your sig is humorous jet, because spamming the Forums is not the way to do it.


Anyway, is it 39?

[Top Thrill Drag]

Im gonna take another guess and say 42?

[RCTForever]

Do they all have to be operationg or can they just be standing?

[RCTForever]

36

[CoasterXtremist]

Inbox is full RCTForever.

[CoasterXtremist]

35 total inversions.

[Harpo]

Here's the breakdown:

Cedar Point:
Corkscrew = 3
Mantis = 4
Raptor = 6

ValleyFair:
Corkscrew = 3

Knott's Berry Farm:
Boomerang = 3 (one direction) or 6 (both directions)
Montezooma's Revenge = 1 (one direction) or 2 (both directions)

Michigan's Adventure:
Corkscrew = 2

Dorney Park and Wildwater Kingdom:
Laser = 2
Talon = 4

Worlds of Fun:
Boomerang = 3 (one direction) or 6 (both directions)
Orient Express = 4

Therefore, counting one direction only, the total is 35. Counting forward and backward directions, the count is 42.

Naturally, this is only counting inversions on the coasters. To count total inversions for the parks would be impossible -- for example, how many times does Chaos flip you upside down (it's random)? How many revolutions does Witches Wheel make at the full upright position (depends on ride time)? It also does not count the overbanked turns on Millennium Force, although the body is below the horizontal on three overbanked turns.

[shock_man]

42, i counted going fromtwards and backwards. i probably should have accepted 42 or 35, sorry. so i'll just say TTD got it.

[RCTForever]

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[CoasterXtremist]

Since there's no current question...

What is the Park that hosts the First launched inverted rollercoaster, what is the name of the coaster, what company was the builder, and what two categories does this coaster fall under?

[RCTForever]

Here's a wild guess

park:Kings Domain
Name:Volcano: The Blast Coaster
company:Intamin AG
Catagories: LIM, Inverted

[Harpo]

From what I can find, Linear Gale at Korakuen Amusement Park in Tokyo boasts the fist inverted launched coaster. (Actual opening date is not specified. CoasterGallery claims this one to be the first.) It's categories: Inverted, LIM/LSM, Shuttle. The ride was built by Intamin in 1998.

The first in the US, also the first full-circuit, was Volcano, The Blast Coaster, opening at Paramount's Kings Dominion on August 3, 1998, again built by Intamin. It's categories: Inverted, LIM/LSM

[RCTForever]

rcdb says Volcano the Blast Coaster was First and so does Roller Coasters A Thrill Seekers Guide to the Ultimate Scream Machines a book I have.

[CoasterXtremist]

You're up RCTForever.

[RCTForever]

This shouldn't be to hard

When put together what is the total age of all Cedar Points current Roller Coasters

note: TTD was built this year so it counts as 0

[CoasterXtremist]

Are you talking opened or built and does that include past CP Roller coasters?

[RCTForever]

CURRENT

ex:Woodstock's Express opened in 1999 so it is 4 years old

[CoasterXtremist]

257 yrs

[Harpo]

It's not as easy a question as you might think.

If you take their debut dates, then the total age of the coasters is 266. That's working with the original Wildcat, installed in 1970, which was a smaller version of the Wildcat that is currently in the park. According to Cedar Point's records (as found at the Town Hall Museum), the official year of installation for Wildcat is still recorded as 1970.

RCDB, however, indicates the replacement year as 1979. On the other hand, I have evidence (old park maps) that suggest the replacement was 1980. So, if we go with RCDB's answer, the total becomes 257. If we go with my evidence, the answer is 256.

But, it becomes even more confusing. These numbers use the construction year of 1985 for Disaster Transport. Actually, that was Avalanche Run at the time. It was enclosed and became Disaster Transport in 1990. Using that date, we now have more possibilities:
Assuming Wildcat's 1970 date, it becomes 261 years. Using RCDB's data for Wildcat, it becomes 252 years. Using my evidence for Wildcat, it becomes 260 years.

So, which set of statistics are you using?

[CoasterXtremist]

Knowing RCTForever I bet he's using rcdb.com, Harpo, how did you get 256 from rcdb?

[RCTForever]

Harpo is correct

I was using rcdb but after looking at Harpos evidence 266 is a better answer

[Harpo]

Whoops, you're right. 257 would be the RCDB answer, although not the official Cedar Point answer. (That's what I get for failing to label my data!)

I'm correcting my stats above...

[Harpo]

Oh goody! I get to ask the ones that I've been holding onto for a while!

I considered asking a question about Kennywood, just to get the topic to a different park. But, I have to admit that I know Cedar Point better than I know any other park, hence I was able to come up with a tough 2-parter for C.P.

Cedar Point has a very long history. In fact, it's the second oldest continuously operating amusement park in the U.S. As such, it has some very old structures.

Part one: What is the oldest remaining structure at Cedar Point, and when was it built?
Part two: What is the oldest remaining structure to have been considered a part of the amusement park, and when was it built? (Hint: All or part of this structure is within the gates of the park.)

I'm getting ready to head out for the holiday weekend, so I may have to hold off until Monday to provide the answers.

Have a great weekend!

[CoasterXtremist]

Hmm...I definetly know the first one, but the second one boggles me.

[Coasterholic14]

The answer to the first question is the Cedar Point Lighthouse, built in 1896. The second question, i'm not exactly sure about, so i'm just gonna take a wild guess...the Cedar Point Marina?

[CoasterXtremist]

Originally posted by Coasterholic14
The answer to the first question is the Cedar Point Lighthouse, built in 1896. The second question, i'm not exactly sure about, so i'm just gonna take a wild guess...the Cedar Point Marina?

Where did you get your info on that?

[dnott]

Originally posted by Harpo

Part one: What is the oldest remaining structure at Cedar Point, and when was it built?
Part two: What is the oldest remaining structure to have been considered a part of the amusement park, and when was it built? (Hint: All or part of this structure is within the gates of the park.)


Part One: I checked Cedar Point History online. I believe it is the Pagoda Gift Shop. It was a checkroom near the new Coliseum. It was built I believe in 1918. I looked at the picture and new. Exactly the same.

Part Two: Has to be Hotel Breakers built in 1905. It is still in use today.

:p

[Harpo]

I'm terribly sorry, but no one has it right yet.

Coasterholic was right about the identification of the oldest structure, being the Cedar Point Lighthouse, but was wrong with the year.

The Pagoda and the Hotel Breakers are almost new compared to the structures I have in mind.

The Marina is quite a bit newer, opening in the 1950's, with a major overhaul recently completed.

I'm glad I provided a stumper! Keep trying!

[Coasterholic14]

Yea, srry bout the year, thats when it was moved or some agency took it over, heres the real answer...The Cedar Point Lighthouse was built in 1839.

As for the second question, i'm a little confused, could u clarify what u mean exactly?

[Harpo]

I'll give you the Cedar Point Lighthouse at 1839, as I've seen at least one reference to that being when it opened. However, I have a reference of the completed lighthouse being inspected in 1838, but, heck, I was a weight guesser: 2 years is within range! (Besides, the records appear to be somewhat shoddy.)

Cedar Point actually gives the year as circa 1862. I've noticed one reference that indicates the lighthouse was rebuilt around 1867, hence it could be Cedar Point's using a figure of that approximate time frame. Regardless, it is the oldest structure on the Point.

Clarification for the second question? May I ask what has you confused? There is one structure that is still standing and is still in use. It was built for the amusement park, and is the oldest structure in the park. (The lighthouse is outside the park.) By "in the park," I mean that the structure is either entirely or partially within the fences that surround the park.

Here's a hint: While it is still used, it is no longer used for its original purpose.

[Harpo]

Has everyone given up? Or will there be another guess?

If I don't see any more guesses, I'll post the answer (and an easier question) tomorrow.

[Joshua H]

is it....the Convention Center, built in 1888 as the Grand Pavilion?

[Coasterholic14]

The answer to the second question is the CP & LE (Cedar Point and Lake Erie) Railroad, built in either 1963 or 1967, i have 2 different dates, actually listed on the same site.

[Harpo]

Joshua got part 2. The Grand Pavilion was opened in 1888 for male adult visitors. There was also a Ladies Pavilion for the female and younger guests.

Since 1888, the Grand Pavilion has been used for many different purposes. At one point, it even had a bowling alley in it. Now, under the current name of The Coral Dining Room, it's used as part of the convention facilities.

If you're seeking this building, it is located between Macaroni's restaurant and Ocean Motion. There's also a plaque next to the building commemorating a speech given by Helen Keller.

Now, here's the confusing part... Coasterholic got part 1, Joshua got part 2. Who asks the next question?

Here's my solution: a tiebreaker question. This one's easy, so it's just a matter of who gets it first. However, because it is so easy, I must insist: SPELLING COUNTS. Incorrect spelling will be considered an incorrect answer.

What's the name of the river that runs next to Kennywood Park?