Who will REALLY win the Stanley Cup Playoffs?

[Rakshim]

Now that all of the contenders have been decided, who do you think will take it all?

GO WILD!!!

[StormHawk]

You beat me to it....you were waiting, I know it! ;)

Ottawa (hopefully) in the east

Anaheim in the west

and

Ottawa in the finals!!!

[Rakshim]

You bet I was. All I had to do was fill in the names... and write GO WILD!!! in huge letters! :D

[StormHawk]

Its hard to pick winners this year. The teams are all so unique. Especially the west. Wild come back from 3-1, twice. Anaheim defeats Dallas & Detroit. In the east, Ottawa hasn't had much playoff experience past the first round. New Jersey has TONS of experience, but I find them too boring. :)

[JQM]

I don't know if the Wild will actually win, but I've gotta vote for my state's team.

Go Wild. That is all.

[Easy Bake]

Quack !

[Jeltz]

The team that doesn't have any Finnish players (Ducks). Yea, I'm still pissed. :sour:

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by Jeltz
The team that doesn't have any Finnish players (Ducks). Yea, I'm still pissed. :sour:

At least thier not the Nucks , who dont have any players who can finnish:rolleyes:

[Jeltz]

Originally posted by Easy Bake
At least thier not the Nucks , who dont have any players who can finnish:rolleyes:

Finish players can't defend either. This time I'm actually glad most of the world doesn't give a damn about the hockey world championships. :up:

[sensoukami]

Pardon me, but I will be slitting my wrists with a razor in a warm bath tub...

[Emmet Otter]

Originally posted by sensoukami
Pardon me, but I will be slitting my wrists with a razor in a warm bath tub... Dont feel so down sensoukami:( Theres still the devils that you can cheer for. You never know, you may get hooked on them and wanna buy a devils jersey after they get the cup :D

*edit* BTW.......................Devils are gonna win, I know it!:D
And i'm the only one that put in a vote for em'.:confused: I just dont get you guys.......

[sensoukami]

Thanks Reversion, but I can't see it happening. Appreciate the offer to jump on the bandwagon though :)

Senators all the way baby! Bring the Cup back to Canada.

[Lucius]

Detriot Red Wings.

[StormHawk]

Originally posted by sensoukami
Thanks Reversion, but I can't see it happening. Appreciate the offer to jump on the bandwagon though :)

Senators all the way baby! Bring the Cup back to Canada.

As much as I don't like the Sens (I'm a leaf fan....rivals), I would still like to see them win.

The Devils have had their turn. That and they took out the leafs a few times in the past few years. Yes, I am just a little bitter. :)

[herknav]

all ya'll know that you just wanna...

GO WILD!!!!!!!

[bruinb77]

I can't believe NJ isn't getting the most votes. Although I can't stand that team, they have all the experience and a great goalie. I'm trying to figure out who to cheer for now since every team I wanted to win has already lost.

[Jeltz]

For the Nucks fans:Important message! (http://www.theinformationminister.com/press.php?ID=612350100)

For the few who have watched or heard of WC ice hockey:Important message! (http://www.theinformationminister.com/press.php?ID=612347539)

edit: I didn't make the first one. :)

[Emmet Otter]

Wow! What a long and hard game between wilds and ducks. And sykora pulls through again in OT! I miss him in the devils:( Devils are OT right now. Will be back shortly......happy i hope.

*edit* AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGHHHHH:cry:

[StormHawk]

Originally posted by Reversion
Wow! What a long and hard game between wilds and ducks. And sykora pulls through again in OT! I miss him in the devils:( Devils are OT right now. Will be back shortly......happy i hope.

*edit* AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGHHHHH:cry:

:haha: WOOHOO! GO SENS!!! :cool:

[Easy Bake]

Quack Quack !


And Sens pull it off.

[bruinb77]

You know it's a good day when the Devils lose and that was a great first game between the Ducks and Wild. Unbelievable saves!

[sensoukami]

OK..who is this JS Giguere!!!! This is getting ridiculous....I mean, a goalie gets into a zone like that once a decade or so. Think Roy in 93 and 86, Dryden in 71....this guy is inhuman.

of course, if the Canucks were playing, we would be winning ;)

[bruinb77]

Wow. Another shutout for Jiggy! And 2 SH goals also. Looks like the Wild are in trouble...again. Or maybe they are just where they want to be.

[StormHawk]

When is the last time anyone scored on that guy? geesh. Of course the wild came back from 2 3-1 series. I don't think they can do it 3 times though.

Anaheim, shoutout, 2 SH goals, crazy.:up:

[Emmet Otter]

All I gotta say is WOW! Damn these quackers are smearin' these guys all over their home ice. That was a rotten stick that folded on that wild player for that 2nd short handed goal. Ducks are starting to worry me.:confused:

[Easy Bake]

Quack ! Quack ! 2-0 Will it be a sweep?

Wild Are rotten at home ....

[bruinb77]

They Wild really aren't doing well at home...Unfortunately for them, they have the home ice advantage (er, disadvantage?) against the Duck.

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by bruinb77
They Wild really aren't doing well at home...Unfortunately for them, they have the home ice advantage (er, disadvantage?) against the Duck.
Its like the Mavericks And Kings
Kings have disadvantage of Webber being out but the advantage of the mavs having bradley in.

[bruinb77]

Very true about the Mavs and Kings. And boy did the Senators get hammered tonight. It was disgusting to watch. :mad:

[StormHawk]

Originally posted by bruinb77
Very true about the Mavs and Kings. And boy did the Senators get hammered tonight. It was disgusting to watch. :mad:

Uhhh...by the sounds of it, I'm glad I forgot to watch it!

[bruinb77]

Be glad you did miss it. It seemed like the Senators decided to not show up tonight for some reason. Very poor defense for them. I had to turn it off after it got to 4-1

[Easy Bake]

Quack !


Duck Play tomorrow.

See if wild can pull off a win.

If they dont I think it will be over for thier miracles.

[bruinb77]

Ducks aren't playing tonight. I think you got a little confused Easy. Or are you saying the Wild will win tomorrow? :D

Oops. you edited it :D Tricky!

[Easy Bake]

Yea It was wierd, I went to NHL .com and it show yesterdays game still in progress with a score of 2-1? ( I hit it cause for some reason i though today was monday :weird: )

[bruinb77]

I thought it might be something like that. ESPN occasionally has the same problem with scores not being updated or showing a final when the game is still being played.

It should be a good game tonight though. I just hope it doesn't go into OT. I can't stay awake that long for those west coast games. :bulb:

[Emmet Otter]

Bruinb77, i hate your sig:mad:

Awwww yes, the devs won last night in an easy win. Martin Brodeur played very well last night. Thats why hes in the list fro the Hart and Vezina.

And i hope the wilds pull through with a win..........cause i know they can do it! Sorry Peter Sykora, but they have my vote to win.

Yep, i can see both NBA and NHL jersey teams pull through this year.:D

[The Lazarus Man]

The Ducks have made a believer out of me. I think they'll take it all.. Geez.. I wish I'd bet on them a few months ago! :D

Lazarus

[Easy Bake]

Dukies All the way, I see thier giaining in the poll as well.

It would be so satisfying as Stars fan if no one one would even score on them the rest of the way.


Chances of that are slim though.

[Emmet Otter]

Originally posted by Easy Bake
Dukies All the way, I see thier giaining in the poll as well.

It would be so satisfying as Stars fan if no one one would even score on them the rest of the way.


Chances of that are slim though. The next poll is gonna be Devils and Wilds.:D :haha:

How close is Giguere to Roys shutout streak? I cant remember Roys shutout streak.

[Easy Bake]

I think Gigueres like 170 minutes dont know Roys.

[Emmet Otter]

Originally posted by Easy Bake
I think Gigueres like 170 minutes dont know Roys. I just checked, Roys is 168:47. Are you sure about Giguers? Cause im sure he has a chance.
Anyway...............we'll see tonight. Lookin forward to it.

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by Reversion
I just checked, Roys is 168:47. Are you sure about Giguers? Cause im sure he has a chance.
Anyway...............we'll see tonight. Lookin forward to it.

Giguere hasn't given up a goal in more than 2½ hours of action. He extended his scoreless streak to 153 minutes, 17 seconds, dating to Game 6 against Dallas in the second round


Got that from ESPN so if he makes it almost to the 2nd period he will have it tonight.

[bruinb77]

I'm not sure what Roy's is. That 168+ minutes for Roy is just OT shutout streak (I think anyhow) and Jiggy's OT streak is 153+

And it's already 1-0 Ducks and Gaborik didn't score on a breakaway.

[Easy Bake]

Quack Quack Quack

4-0 in 3rd period.


SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP ! ! ! !

[The Lazarus Man]

4-0 Ducks..

If Giguere doesn't break a leg or something.. I think they're gonna take it all.. He's amazing.

Lazarus

[jglee13]

Just in case you hadn't seen the official latest figures . . .

Giguere is up to 213 minutes, 17 seconds of shutout hockey.

According to the 2002 NHL Official Rule & Record book (yes I have a lot of time on my hands), the longest streak in history is 248 minutes, 32 seconds by Normie Smith of Detroit vs. the Montreal Maroons in 1936.

Looks like Giguere has a good chance at making some history on Friday . . .

[Easy Bake]

IF he gets another shut out, he breaks yet another record of 4 straight shut outs in play offs.

[Emmet Otter]

Giguere is playing awesome!!! Damn that team is starting to scare me.:eek:

[bruinb77]

Did you see him make that stop on the breakaway. He's in their mind now too! The question is, will the Wild score this series?

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by Reversion
Giguere is playing awesome!!! Damn that team is starting to scare me.:eek:

Be afraid Be very afraid, I dont think it was a fluke they beat Wing and Stars. But at least the stars won 2 and all the others were 1 goal games. They may beat Wild 6-0 friday.

[bruinb77]

I'm not sure they will score that much, but the Wild are pretty much done.

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by bruinb77
I'm not sure they will score that much, but the Wild are pretty much done.

Yep thier playing like thier seeding would indicate.Dukies are not though ( dang has a 7th seed ever won the cup?)

[Emmet Otter]

I cant believe this!!! The devils scored a shot on net and quickly rebounded back into lalimes pads and totally went unoticed til seconds after the next puck dropped. The game is going into third right now with the devils leading 1-0 but shouldve been 2-0. I just cant believe this...........NO ONE SAW THIS BEFORE THE PUCK DROPPED!!

[Easy Bake]

That was wierd, I only saw the replay though. But looks like it didnt matter.


Wonder what the oods are for Dukies to get another shut out?

[bruinb77]

That Devils goal should have counted, but still, I can't stand their style of play. BORING!

As for low seeds winning, I'm not sure, but Montreal in '93 and '86 were pretty low seeds. On the other hand, the current seeding format is relatively new (10 years or less I think). Previously, it was divisional seedings first, then the division winners played each other for the conference finals.

TRIVIA TIME!
Can you name the two conferences and 4 division names before the NHL changed the division and conference names to geographical locations. Hint: They were named after people who had a large impact on the game and there are still some awards named after them.

[Adacore]

Originally posted by bruinb77
TRIVIA TIME!
Can you name the two conferences and 4 division names before the NHL changed the division and conference names to geographical locations. Hint: They were named after people who had a large impact on the game and there are still some awards named after them.

Nope - I have no idea...

(Oh - and GO MIGHTY DUCKS, btw - I kinda support Anaheim, but only because I follow baseball)

[bruinb77]

I'm supporting the Ducks too now.

But take a guess which baseball team I support :D

[Adacore]

Originally posted by bruinb77
I'm supporting the Ducks too now.

But take a guess which baseball team I support :D

Err... the Angels? Although I guess not, from that comment...

[bruinb77]

LOL, nope, not the Angels.

My baseball team is the one that's cursed, you know, the Red Sox.

[Adacore]

Originally posted by bruinb77
LOL, nope, not the Angels.

My baseball team is the one that's cursed, you know, the Red Sox.

Hmm - are Anaheim playing Boston atm? From the MLB webbie it looks like 5 all...

[bruinb77]

Cool, the Sox fought back.

You know, the game tonight is on WAY too late. Now I have to stay up late and watch it after having to stay up late last night to watch the Lakers get spanked :haha:

[Adacore]

Originally posted by bruinb77
Cool, the Sox fought back.

You know, the game tonight is on WAY too late. Now I have to stay up late and watch it after having to stay up late last night to watch the Lakers get spanked :haha:

You think it's too late :eek: - I've got to stay up 'till 5am to see the result....

[bruinb77]

Ouch, now that's even worse. That's the problem with the west coast games.

[Adacore]

Originally posted by bruinb77
Ouch, now that's even worse. That's the problem with the west coast games.

Well, it's 6-5 to the Angels at the top of the eighth, so it's looking good...

[bruinb77]

Finally, the game is on. I hate it when the NBA runs into the hockey game :mad:

[bruinb77]

WOW, just in time to see the Wild actually SCORE!

[Easy Bake]

Damm No shut out.

Trivia Answers:

Smythe and Campbell were the conferences

Norris , And i think Whales were divisions
but not sure been to long since they changed it.

Edit: How could i forget the Stanley Division.

[bruinb77]

Almost Easy Bake, but not quite.

You got some of the conferences and division names mixed up.

And there wasn't a Stanley Division.

I'll post the answers tomorrow.

[herknav]

Damn... the Wild finally came up short... first elimination game lost in the history of the franchise... but not too bad for a 3 year old club. NHL Hockey is back in MN... where it belongs... :)

[sensoukami]

TRIVIA TIME! Can you name the two conferences and 4 division names before the NHL changed the division and conference names to geographical locations. Hint: They were named after people who had a large impact on the game and there are still some awards named after them.

Conferences:

Campbell Conference
Prince of Wales Conference

Divisions:

Norris
Adams
Patrick
Smythe

[Emmet Otter]

Devils done it again! 3-1 now. I forsee devils and ducks playoff. But the question remains.....................who will get the cup?
And speaking of cups. I just had my picture taken with the stanley cup here in wayne NJ. Its here from 4-10 tonight. But they wouldnt ley me hold it:( But it was still very cool to this amazing cup.

[Easy Bake]

Sweet.
I got mine with the cup a few years ago when it was here in Dallas.


GO Sens !!

[bruinb77]

Originally posted by sensoukami
Conferences:

Campbell Conference
Prince of Wales Conference

Divisions:

Norris
Adams
Patrick
Smythe

Correct!

Now if only the Devils will lose!

[Easy Bake]

Too late for sens i think

Devil's up 3-1 now
Anyone Watch golfs?
I cannot find anywhere how that Sorenstam lady did in the Colonial ? They dont even list her scores on ESPN.
Did she do that badly?

[bruinb77]

Unless you're the Oracle in the Matrix, you won't know how she did. The Colonial is next weekend :D

And you're right, the Sens are done. Go Ducks!

[Easy Bake]

good Lord! I was looking at the Nelson scores !
No wonder i couldnt find her name ! :bulb:
I was begining the think there was some kind of conspericy.
Shows what I know about golfs, They were making such a big deal out of it ,and coverage of her just vanished the last 2 days i thought she just quietly left town or something.

Oh ya To stay on topic

GO DUKIES ! QUACK QUACK !

hes Stoped 121 of 122 shots What a streak hes on..

[bruinb77]

I know what you mean....the only reason I knew about that was next week was because of all the coverage on Sportscenter and the other ESPN shows.

[Rakshim]

:cry: :cry: :cry:

*sob* Oh well, at least the Wild had a great season. I must take my hat off to the Ducks goalie... dang he's good. The Wild aren't a hugely offensive team, but to keep them shut out for 3 games is huge accomplishment.

Oh well, there's still next year. Who knows, they got this far in three years... maybe they'll take it all next year (and not need 4 game 7s to do it! :bulb: )!

That's all for now... I'll just devote my free time to cheering for the AL CENTRAL LEADING MINNESOTA TWINS!!!

This time, they're World Series bound (hey, we can all hope can't we?!)

:D

[bruinb77]

Well, if the Red Sox fold like they always do, the I'll root for the Twinkees. :D

[Emmet Otter]

DAMN!!!! Im not saying anything!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

[bruinb77]

Can the Sens win two more in a row? I doubt it, but if they can win Game 6, anything can happen in the seventh game.

PS I hate the Yankees!

[StormHawk]

Go Sens!


....then Anahiem



@Bruin77

There is more than one page. ;)

[bruinb77]

:haha: I know! I looked and looked and looked and didn't see it. I think it's a forum bug that hid it from me! :D

[StormHawk]

SENS WIN!!!SENS WIN!!!SENS WIN!!!

Game 7 WOOHOO!!! :D

[Emmet Otter]

Sniff...Sniff:( WAAAAAAAAAA:cry:

I CANY BELIEVE THIS!!!!!!!! This is utter bullsh*t!!! I cant believe marty on that 1st goal. he threw it out the middle and was plyed back in. And that OT goal................pure bullsh*t.

*EDIT* stormhawk and bruinb. I dont wanna hear it!

[StormHawk]

Originally posted by Reversion
<snip>
*EDIT* stormhawk and bruinb. I dont wanna hear it!

UH-OH....You shouldn't have said that :D

[Easy Bake]

Ah Lots of rest for the Dukies.

Wonder if thats a good or bad thing. no rest before starting the playoffs and waxed the wings. They got lots of rest after disposing of the wings and Dallas gave them a hard time. But no rest after the Stars and the Swept the Wild.

Interesting dilema.

[bruinb77]

Sorry Reversion...I feel you're pain. Actually I don't, I'm pretty happy right now! :D Go Sens!

The Ducks are in good shape with 10 days rest. They showed a stat last night of the other 5 or 6 teams that had more than 8 days off. Every one of them won the Cup.

Game 7 tomorrow night. I hope to see the Devils choke!

[StormHawk]

@bruinb77

??? I wanted the Sens to win. Or rather I want to see the Devils lose :D

I want to see Ducks vs. Senators. I can't decide who I want to win. Anaheim would be cool, being the underdog and all. While Ottawa is a Canadian Team.

If NJ were to win, there would be no choice. BOO DEVILS! GO Everyone else! :D

[bruinb77]

Oops, I meant Reversion. That's what happens when you don't pay close attention :D

[Emmet Otter]

Whoa!:eek: That was a scary ass game i must admit. Actually i thought devils were gonna lose. Shame on me to think that:D
Blake, hawk, bruin..................Ducks are gonna lose in what i think mmmmm.......*cough*game 6 HEHE

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by Reversion
Whoa!:eek: That was a scary ass game i must admit. Actually i thought devils were gonna lose. Shame on me to think that:D
Blake, hawk, bruin..................Ducks are gonna lose in what i think mmmmm.......*cough*game 6 HEHE
Dukies all the way !

[bruinb77]

Go Ducks. It's a shame alot of the excitment will be trapped out of the Cup now.

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by bruinb77
Go Ducks. It's a shame alot of the excitment will be trapped out of the Cup now.
I think Satan will have a very tough time scoreing on the Dukies

[StormHawk]

Originally posted by bruinb77
Go Ducks. It's a shame alot of the excitment will be trapped out of the Cup now.

Ottawa and Anaheim would have made a better series, IMO.

Oh well...Go Ducks! (I never thought I would ever say that! :D)

[bruinb77]

True, but I have a feeling it will be a very slow game throughout the series. Hopefully the Ducks will pull it off.

[Easy Bake]

Cant wait for it to start.

[bruinb77]

I'll know if it was worth the wait after the first two games.

[Emmet Otter]

MAN! Its you 3 against me.:( No one likes my devils:(
Look guys........those quakers are very lucky to be where they are at right now. They will be swapping Giguere and their backup through out the series starting tuesday.:D HEHE The devils are gonna come swarmin' and pucks are gonna be flyin'.

[bruinb77]

The Devils just are not a well liked team because of their style of play. That's the main reason I can't stand them. Normally, I would like a budget conscious team with talented players on it, but I can't get by they way they play the game.

[Emmet Otter]

Hey guys, after when all this is over. Who do you think will be the team to watch next season? Personally i think its gonna be the Atlanta Thrashers thats gonna take some spotlight next season. The start of this season they werent doing too good. But then when they got Bob Hartley their stats began to rise. I think they will be the hot team next year. What do you think?

[StormHawk]

Depends on the off season trades and such. Its too ahrd for me to say this early.

[Easy Bake]

Stars should still be good. even if they dumped turgeon

[bruinb77]

Originally posted by Reversion
Hey guys, after when all this is over. Who do you think will be the team to watch next season? Personally i think its gonna be the Atlanta Thrashers thats gonna take some spotlight next season. The start of this season they werent doing too good. But then when they got Bob Hartley their stats began to rise. I think they will be the hot team next year. What do you think?

They are a very nice team, but have a big hole in the net. You won't go anywhere without a decent goalie and all of them on Atlanta aren't even decent although Numinen (sp?) might be ok in the future.

I think the Lightning can be very exciting next year with a little more depth on that team. Great goalies, very good first line and ok second line right now.

[Emmet Otter]

Welp its devils 1-0 Martys' 5th this season playoff shutout. Man the ducks were smeared all over the ice tonight. But i gotta hand it to giguere, he made some pretty damn good saves otherwise devils scoring would have been higher.

*edit* How can i forget to say.....Bulldog John Madden kicked ass tonight along with friessen.

[StormHawk]

The 1st period was OK. I was distracted, oh look something shiney! :D, and I wasn't really watching much of the rest of the game, especially the 3rd. But the devils seemed to 'pwn' the ducks. :( Stupid Trap.

<edit>

I think the series will go 6 games. Hopefully for the ducks ;)

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by bruinb77
They are a very nice team, but have a big hole in the net. You won't go anywhere without a decent goalie and all of them on Atlanta aren't even decent although Numinen (sp?) might be ok in the future.

I think the Lightning can be very exciting next year with a little more depth on that team. Great goalies, very good first line and ok second line right now.

Looks like snowball lost Roy, wonder how good his back up is?

[bruinb77]

Originally posted by StormHawk
The 1st period was OK. I was distracted, oh look something shiney! :D, and I wasn't really watching much of the rest of the game, especially the 3rd. But the devils seemed to 'pwn' the ducks. :( Stupid Trap.

<edit>

I think the series will go 6 games. Hopefully for the ducks ;)

Yep, stupid trap. The game actually put me to sleep :(

On another note, the Avs now have a HUGE hole in net. David Arbicher is their backup and he doesn't look like he is ready to be the #1. LaCroix better pull another big trade out of the hat again.

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by bruinb77
Yep, stupid trap. The game actually put me to sleep :(

On another note, the Avs now have a HUGE hole in net. David Arbicher is their backup and he doesn't look like he is ready to be the #1. LaCroix better pull another big trade out of the hat again.

Mabey Wing Will dump Cujo
or leaf dumps Belfore.

[bruinb77]

I don't think either one is the answer. Belfour is getting a bit too old and won't be in the NHL much longer IMHO and Cujo, well, he has NEVER performed good enough in the playoffs. Cujo is one of those players that seems to just play good enough to lose.

[Emmet Otter]

Martys 6th shutout in these playoffs. The devils are scoring more goals than the ducks scoring chances:D
Why did giguere break his stick after that 3rd goal?:haha:
Trap! HA! You guys can put down their style all you want. But tell me this, if your team played the same style hockey and won the cup cause of it, would you complain about how they played? Even if they played every game like the devils did tonight? I dont think so!

Have you guys ever tried polish ducks blood soup?:D The devils are right now and they are devouring it.:haha:

[StormHawk]

this happens to cindarella teams sometimes. remember a few years back when florida made it to the finals only to be swept by colorado? hope that doesn't happen this year. stupid devils! :(

[Easy Bake]

Doh!

Damm Dukies haveing a bad week. I told you guys they had too much time off.

[arcite]

Those Lame Ducks suck, only 16shots??? Pathetic.

Too bad Ottawa didn't make it :(

[Emmet Otter]

Originally posted by Easy Bake
Doh!

Damm Dukies haveing a bad week. I told you guys they had too much time off. Nooooo no no no no! That excuse would have been , somewhat understandable, for the 1st game, but not now!!!:D :haha:

Nice try Bake:p

[Emmet Otter]

Originally posted by arcite


Too bad Ottawa didn't make it :( Are you saying that cause they were your team? Or you wished the ducks had an easier opponent.:haha:

Lets go devils!!..............Lets go devils!!..............Lets go devils!!..............Lets go devils!!!!!

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by Reversion
Nooooo no no no no! That excuse would have been , somewhat understandable, for the 1st game, but not now!!!:D :haha:

Nice try Bake:p

I just meant that Giguere has cooled off, and dont look like hes playing well. Wee will see next game if he gets it together.
Also remember Dukies were the 7th? seed in the west and Skill will eventualy tell after 4 Playoff rounds.

.

[bruinb77]

Originally posted by Reversion
Martys 6th shutout in these playoffs. The devils are scoring more goals than the ducks scoring chances:D
Why did giguere break his stick after that 3rd goal?:haha:
Trap! HA! You guys can put down their style all you want. But tell me this, if your team played the same style hockey and won the cup cause of it, would you complain about how they played? Even if they played every game like the devils did tonight? I dont think so!

Have you guys ever tried polish ducks blood soup?:D The devils are right now and they are devouring it.:haha:

Actually, unwatchable is still unwatchable. If it was the Bruins, I might not hate the team, but I still wouldn't be able to watch it. And my biggest concern is this. If avid hockey fans like me and my wife cannot watch the Stanely Cup finals because it IS boring, what chance does the sport have long term. This is a VERY serious problem and it started in 1995 when the Devils won the Cup with the trap and many teams copied their style and really ruined the game. The obstruction crack down stopped after a couple months like always and it really shows during the playoffs.

And the worst part is, when you do watch the Devils over a number of games, from this series to the Ottawa series, they don't have to trap. They are a very talented skating team that COULD be very exciting to watch. Instead, watching grass grow is just as thrilling. :(

[Emmet Otter]

Listen bruin, Its not their fault (devils) that the other teams cant make the game exciting enough to penetrate their awesome style. Jeesh! Dont blame the team thats winning the cup.
BTW, do you like soccer? This sport averages about an average 1,2,3 goals tops per game.....with both teams! And yet this sport is gaining popularity. I know its a different sport but.........
And i dont think that if this sport ever loses its popularity, that it would be cause of the trap! Its just that the game is not pushed and promoted or even get enough sport page headlines. Seriously, im sure that up in canada, their hockey is always headlining the sport papers. But over here! Its nothing but baseball, which by the way is the most f*cking boring sport out there, basketball and football. Hockey is not pushed well here in the states IMO.

I've watched western side hockey and noticed a much more faster paced hockey thats constantly on goalies ends. But the devils so called "neutral- zone trap" is not that agonizing watch like you guys all say. They still play a very exciting game and i dont understand why people act like their style is like COMPLETE night and day difference from other teams. They still play all over the place!! You guys act like that their game is all 55mins neutral zone, 5 minutes goals.

I just dont understand how a game can be sooo boring when yet, win so many games to get to the stanley cup. :( The winning alone is what makes it exciting enough. I just dont understand you guys. :(







Or..........is it that you guys just cant stand the devils and just has to find ways to put their team down.:p :haha:



Oh yeah........................Lets go devils.......Lets go devils.......Lets go devils.......:D

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by Reversion
Listen bruin, Its not their fault (devils) that the other teams cant make the game exciting enough to penetrate their awesome style. Jeesh! Dont blame the team thats winning the cup.
BTW, do you like soccer? This sport averages about an average 1,2,3 goals tops per game.....with both teams! And yet this sport is gaining popularity. I know its a different sport but.........
And i dont think that if this sport ever loses its popularity, that it would be cause of the trap! Its just that the game is not pushed and promoted or even get enough sport page headlines. Seriously, im sure that up in canada, their hockey is always headlining the sport papers. But over here! Its nothing but baseball, which by the way is the most f*cking boring sport out there, basketball and football. Hockey is not pushed well here in the states IMO.

I've watched western side hockey and noticed a much more faster paced hockey thats constantly on goalies ends. But the devils so called "neutral- zone trap" is not that agonizing watch like you guys all say. They still play a very exciting game and i dont understand why people act like their style is like COMPLETE night and day difference from other teams. They still play all over the place!! You guys act like that their game is all 55mins neutral zone, 5 minutes goals.

I just dont understand how a game can be sooo boring when yet, win so many games to get to the stanley cup. :( The winning alone is what makes it exciting enough. I just dont understand you guys. :(







Or..........is it that you guys just cant stand the devils and just has to find ways to put their team down.:p :haha:



Oh yeah........................Lets go devils.......Lets go devils.......Lets go devils.......:D



Theres reasons hockey is not promoted as much as NFL MLB And NBA.

Ad Revenue !
I have watched hockey games ( i actualy timed it one time) and it was a whole 15 Minutes between comercial breaks. could you even imagine a NFL Or MLB or NBA going that long without a comercial? NLF has a comercial after every play practicly.
Hockey Reveniues are mostly generated by ticket sales ( and Tshirts Jerseys Ect) As apposed to the others that get a LOTmore money from TV contracts then the NHL does. But unless they change the game drasticly ( give them lots of time outs or something), hockey will never get the big TV deals the others get because they are severly limited in how many comercials the can have during game play compared to the other sports.
Eventulay the NHL is going to have Severe finacial isssues ( they have them now) when the revenue generated from the areanas they play in is maxed out and the player saleries continue to rise


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[Emmet Otter]

Wow! I dint know that! Good info. If thats the case, i hope it stays where its at, i cant stand commercials:D

[bruinb77]

Actually, I really do not like to watch soccer. It's mostly just running up and down the field and dumping the ball deep. As for the Devils, I actually used to like the team prior to their cup win in 1995 when they introduced the trap. Before that, they did have an exciting style and it was successful (a couple of eastern conf finals). The strike season caused alot of problem with the timing of the skill players and NJ introduced the trap which without a doubt was VERY successful. And it was imitated alot.

And when I watched the NJ games, it IS the neutral zone trap. True the game isn't just played in the neutral zone. It's dump it in, Brodeur gets it, passes it up, NJ dumps it in, other team gets it, goes up the ice, dumps it in. Repeat for 3 periods. There IS a reason why the Ducks only have 32 shots in 2 games and it is an extremely effective trap. NJ will win with it, but it will hurt hockey overall when even more teams try to imitate the style, especially since there is a real lack of talented players out there (expansion really diluted the talent pool).

EB hit key points on why hockey won't be big in the states, but the ad revenue is only part of it (and yes, the NHL is already heading to that train wreck with out of control saleries). In the US, scoring is necessary to make it into the public eye which is why the NHL is the 4th sport even though it is a better game to watch. The other is that it will have a tough time getting young fans who play due to the costs of the sport and lack of ice rinks, especially in warmer climates. That's the reason for the large following of the other sports and the growing popularity of soccer in the US (although soccer will not be a mainstream sport on TV in the US anytime soon).

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by bruinb77
Actually, I really do not like to watch soccer. It's mostly just running up and down the field and dumping the ball deep. As for the Devils, I actually used to like the team prior to their cup win in 1995 when they introduced the trap. Before that, they did have an exciting style and it was successful (a couple of eastern conf finals). The strike season caused alot of problem with the timing of the skill players and NJ introduced the trap which without a doubt was VERY successful. And it was imitated alot.

And when I watched the NJ games, it IS the neutral zone trap. True the game isn't just played in the neutral zone. It's dump it in, Brodeur gets it, passes it up, NJ dumps it in, other team gets it, goes up the ice, dumps it in. Repeat for 3 periods. There IS a reason why the Ducks only have 32 shots in 2 games and it is an extremely effective trap. NJ will win with it, but it will hurt hockey overall when even more teams try to imitate the style, especially since there is a real lack of talented players out there (expansion really diluted the talent pool).



EB hit key points on why hockey won't be big in the states, but the ad revenue is only part of it (and yes, the NHL is already heading to that train wreck with out of control saleries). In the US, scoring is necessary to make it into the public eye which is why the NHL is the 4th sport even though it is a better game to watch. The other is that it will have a tough time getting young fans who play due to the costs of the sport and lack of ice rinks, especially in warmer climates. That's the reason for the large following of the other sports and the growing popularity of soccer in the US (although soccer will not be a mainstream sport on TV in the US anytime soon).



They are building many rinks in the south (in our area anyway) And they already have a very large number of High scholls ( enought to have several Class levels , mostly class levels are based on # of students in each school not realy on skill levels, but the big schools have a larger talent base ect...) that play and enough teams for a State championship tourneyment.


But i do think that Hockey could be very big if it was promoted better like the NBA ( they should be able to generate the same revinue as NBA teams do since they play in the same arenas and have nearly as many games) and was on major networks and not religated to cable TV only.
You can Make any sport popular with the right promotions, Just look how big these X game things have goten over the last 10 years mostly due to the fact that they are promoted heavely. And they can tape them and put comercials in however often they want too.Auto racing is the same 10 or so years ago the only showed Indy 500 and Daytona on TV now thiers one every week.

But the potential Ad reveinue for the NHL is just not there due to the game itself not allowing for very many comercial brakes and the Major TV networks know this.
Iv seen replays of Hockey games where they cut out in the middle of play for comercials but you cant do that live.

[Emmet Otter]

Bake and bruin, i've just read both of your post and i must say thats a real bummer to read. Im new to this sport and this is all new to me. I just only believed it was the lack of audience that they could draw for the sport. But now i can see how they hurt finacially in revinues. Young fans are unable to play in warm seasons. Rediculously high salaries (just reduce those rangers salaries by half and all will be solved)...............
There has to be some good news for the sport, one major turning point to boost it!?!?

Anyways........Pucks drop, 8:00 tonight guys.

[bruinb77]

Very true about the growing number of soccer fields, but the boom looks pretty restricted to amature levels. Pro soccer still gets no notice in the US and advertising during a soccer game is even worse than hockey.

The X-games are very popular, but it's a yearly event verses a seasonal sport. It's easier to get the interest level up on once a year type sports. If there was 6-7 months of X-games on TV, I think interest wouldn't be nearly as great.

I'm not as sure about NASCAR. It seems to be a southern thing. I never really heard about it until I moved to Florida. Indy-car used to be big until the split between IRL and CART. Since then, it seems it hasn't been as popular.

But you are right that the ad revenue is one thing that hurts the NHL, but it's only one part of an overall problem. If you look back 10 years ago, the ratings were about the same as they are today with less exposure (only on cable with fewer people having cable).

I think we'll have to see what happens after the lockout/strike after next season. I suspect that there will not be hockey for at least a year unless the owners fold like they did for the last negotiations which has put them in this postion they are in now.

[Easy Bake]

Originally posted by bruinb77
Very true about the growing number of soccer fields, but the boom looks pretty restricted to amature levels. Pro soccer still gets no notice in the US and advertising during a soccer game is even worse than hockey.

The X-games are very popular, but it's a yearly event verses a seasonal sport. It's easier to get the interest level up on once a year type sports. If there was 6-7 months of X-games on TV, I think interest wouldn't be nearly as great.

I'm not as sure about NASCAR. It seems to be a southern thing. I never really heard about it until I moved to Florida. Indy-car used to be big until the split between IRL and CART. Since then, it seems it hasn't been as popular.

But you are right that the ad revenue is one thing that hurts the NHL, but it's only one part of an overall problem. If you look back 10 years ago, the ratings were about the same as they are today with less exposure (only on cable with fewer people having cable).

I think we'll have to see what happens after the lockout/strike after next season. I suspect that there will not be hockey for at least a year unless the owners fold like they did for the last negotiations which has put them in this postion they are in now.

I realy meant X game like sports, such as skate boarding and snowboarding things seems they are on all the time.

They are in for some serious problems when the labor deal goes off. And i dont think even if they were getting the TV money the NBA gets would help because then their saleries would be even higher.All sports are going to be in trouble soon
if the saleries dont get under control. they already at the limits of stadium revenue generation by pricing tickets out of the price range of the average fan. This hurts hockey worse then other sports because of the limited coverage. I very supprized the World series and Superbowl are not on pay per view yet.

[Easy Bake]

Whoo Hooo !

Dukies Up 1 game to 2 !


UNdefeated in OT 6-0

[Emmet Otter]

Ugh......ummm...ahhh....they got lucky last night. Thats all i gota say:D Devils will get them next game then finish em' off at home. Thats my prediction.

[bruinb77]

I agree Reversion that the Devils will still probably win the series.

But last night showed how talented the Devils are. If they would play all the time like they did when they were losing 2-1, the Devils would be a VERY entertaining team to watch. They skated, they forchecked and they dominated the play up until they tied the game. Once it was 2-2, the trap was back :(

Anyhow, GO DUCKS! :D

[Easy Bake]

This win could give the dukies the boost they need to start rolling again. and make them start playing better. They were all over the puck last night. Ill admit that was a lucky goal but things like that happen once in a while.
But giggy played a lot better then he did in the 1st 2 games and
Should be even better in game 4.

[Easy Bake]

Whoo Hooo !


Dukies Tie it up

1-0 In OT.

[StormHawk]

I told you! Ducks in 6! :)

[Emmet Otter]

Look guys, dont get too over excited. Those ducks are gonna be at devils turf Thursday. Those guys can feel good now cause thats as good its gonna get:mad:

[arcite]

Originally posted by Reversion
Look guys, dont get too over excited. Those ducks are gonna be at devils turf wed. Those guys can feel good now cause thats as good its gonna get:mad:


Hehe no doubt! Those devils looked a wee bit pissed :D It should be a great game at any rate.

[Easy Bake]

Even if Satan wins and leasy the duckies put up a good fight.
and who knows Giggy looks to have his confidence back now and if they can get satan to OT give me the dukies.

[bruinb77]

YEA! Ducks win. But I was most surprised by the Devils crying about how the Ducks "cheat" at face-offs. Maybe NJ is falling apart after all. We can only hope.

[Easy Bake]

Arghhhhh

Dukies lose 6-3?

6 ?

6?

Un Blanking Belivable!





Still game 6 though, still hpoe !

[Emmet Otter]

This was the best game in these series tonight. Alot of goals ( some by the wrong team hehe) tons of hitting and was all over the place. This was a very exciting game.
Its a wierd series how these guys can play sooo well at home.

[Easy Bake]

Ya think Satan figured they DONT want to go to OT?
Now they playing like thier behind 3-0.

[Emmet Otter]

Originally posted by Easy Bake
Ya think Satan figured they DONT want to go to OT?
Now they playing like thier behind 3-0. HAHA I think youre right there. The way pat Burns was goin' ape sh*t in that 3rd period, you knew he didnt want to go into OT.
After watchin' this spectacular game tonight, you wonder why people would dislike hockey. One of the best sports out there. PERIOD!

[Easy Bake]

Still think it would be much more popular if it was marketed correctly. But the TV people wont do it unlees they change the game to make more room for comercial breaks.

[bruinb77]

Originally posted by Reversion
HAHA I think youre right there. The way pat Burns was goin' ape sh*t in that 3rd period, you knew he didnt want to go into OT.
After watchin' this spectacular game tonight, you wonder why people would dislike hockey. One of the best sports out there. PERIOD!

I agree based on that game. That's why the Devils confuse me so much. Just look at that talent they have on that team and how they can skate like crazy up and down the ice. There is NO REASON they should be a trapping team. If the game last night was the style of play they would use all the time, I'd be a Devils fan because everything they do in the organization is great from taking care of their players to keeping reasonable salaries. But we'll see what happens in Game 6.

Great game though.

[Emmet Otter]

The ducks manages to stay afloat this time, but monday the devils will drown em' and scott niedermeyer will carry the cup for the 3rd time.:D
And i cant believe how marty missed alot of those goals, he must have had his wifes sister on his mind through out the entire game.:haha:

Game 7 on monday will be very exciting. Im sure all of you guys are looking forward to it.

[StormHawk]

Originally posted by Reversion
Game 7 on monday will be very exciting. Im sure all of you guys are looking forward to it.

If its anything like tonitghs game, YES!

Nothing better than game 7 for the cup, unless you are actually playing for it. :D

<mandatory devils *****ing>
Stevens should stop taking people out of the game. ya i know it was a clean check, but still he has done it a few times.
</mdb>

[bruinb77]

What a game. 2 games in a row without the trap. Now this is great hockey. I'm looking forward to a great finish.

And how about Kariya. So much for that soft label. The guy was out cold AND he comes back and almost scores on his first shift back. And then he does score. Personally, I thought he got knocked out like Lindros a few years back and he'd be out for the rest of the series.

Oh, and that should have been an interference penalty and though it was a clean hit, Stevens always knows what he's doing...and that is taking out the best player, but legally. Still, I'd love to have him on the B's.

Go Ducks!

[Easy Bake]

Damm look like I missed the best game of the series.
But i had a good time though.


Game 7 ! cant wait, hope they play like they did last night.


QUACK !

GO DUCKIES !

[bruinb77]

Yes, that was by far the best game of the series. And the thing is, the Devils had something like a 7-1 favor in odd man rushes. It was crazy.

[Emmet Otter]

2-0 going into third guys. OOOOOHH this is so exciting!

[Easy Bake]

Gonna go watch the rest of it now..

[StormHawk]

Originally posted by Reversion
2-0 going into third guys. OOOOOHH this is so exciting!

:cry:

[Emmet Otter]

Bruin, Bake, Hawk and the rest of ya'll that shared these playoff threads. I understand how you guys feel about the ducks loss (and other teams) and those darn devils win, but theres always next year for your teams and i wish em' all luck. And i understand how you guys favor a team who have never gotten the cup against a team that already has. But, the devils are the team that got me into this great sport back in 2000 and they were the team that i then followed. The devils are a great team and i will always cheer for them.
I really enjoyed sharing these threads with you all in these exciting playoffs time and i hope to meet and share em' with you guys again next year.
Welp....i think this will be my last reply here guys. Take care, and and maybe we'll meet again next year................

Reversion.

[Easy Bake]

:( :( :( Poor duckies

At least the gave Giguere the Conn Smythe Trophy, he deserved it if only for geting them to the finals.
And they should have Beaten those fans senslessafter booing him.

[StormHawk]

It was fun. After my team gets eliminated (Leafs) I normally cheer for the underdogs.

Booing jiggy. I turned it off right after, I was harvesting some nommo at the time. :) Thats low. He is without a doubt the MVP. Anaheim wouldn't have even beat detroit without him, let alone any others.

[Emmet Otter]

I wanna post one more thing that was botherig me at work today that i forgot to mention in my last reply. You guys are absolutly right about the fans that booed giguere. I was completely appauled by what ive heard. Its fans like that , that gives new jersey devils a bad name. I said to myself, my god the devils won, there was no reason to boo anymore. That was totally disrespectful on a great goalie. Its sad that when fans of the opposing team doesnt recognise ( or are just plain stupid) a great goalie and give him credit. I mean, he beat, detroit and colorado and then only allowed 1 goal in the minnesota series then went to game 7 with one of the toughest teams in the finals!!! New Jersey fans are just plain f*cking stupid and ignorant!!!
I know when a opposing team scores a goal and you all boo, or when you lose to a team and you a boo. Its not that a big a deal. But, when a series is final and your team wins, theres no need to start disrespecting the losing team and start putting em' down. I mean, they just lost an important series! And your team won! So whats with the sh*t attistude!?!?!
Now, i do like brodeur alot but i was also disgusted in his conference meeting with that cigar at the end! He seemed very cocky and snobby about his win. I understand you are very excited and proud about your win but............no need to flaunt it like the way he did i think.
I hope you guys dont think of me as the goon fans here in NJ. Cause im not like them nimrods!! Im a little more understanding than that!

Anyways, take care.

[bruinb77]

Congrats to the Devils. That was a perfect game they played last night. It really was a toss up for the Conn Smythe since Brodeur had all those shutouts. But I think it was the right call.

Now, time to hope they can hash out a labor agreement before the end of next season or next year might be it for a while.

Go Bruins!

[Emmet Otter]

Bruin, Giguere i will say fully deserved that trophy. He had a much harder route to take in these playoffs and when to the finals with the toughest like i said.
But i do wanna ask which i forgot, How does marty get the hart and vezina trophy? He is one of the 2003 finalist. I dont know how or if he will get them.

[bruinb77]

Those trophies are voted on, I think from the sportswriters, but not sure. Hart is league MVP so I think that is unlikely (remember all these awards are voted prior to the playoffs). It is rare for goalies to get the Hart. Only Hasek did it recently. Probably Nasland will win it.

Vezina is the best goalie trophy and he has a better chance at that, but once again, I think he'll lose that one. Most likely winner will be Turco in Dallas who had a great regular season.

[Easy Bake]

Yes Turcos likly to get the Vezina trophy, he did have the lowest goals against average in like 60 years.
Turco also got The Beckett NHL Player of the Year
Hatcher should get the Norris trophy this year too.
as well.
I cant see Naslund not winning the Hart he had so many goals, I wonder how Todd Bertuzzi wasnt nominated.

We will find out thursday !



The Canadians hired Bob Gainey as thier new GM should be a good move, he did a lot to get get the stars where they are now.

[bruinb77]

Oh no, that's bad news. I really don't like Montreal. Arch rivals to the B's you know. Maybe he'll forget how to be a good GM like Sather did with the Rangers. :D

[Easy Bake]

Thers always that hope, he should be popular there being a fromer Captain back in thier heydays.

[Easy Bake]

Grrrrrrr :sour: :sour: :sour:
The gave the Vezina to Brodure philistines !

Turco had the best goals against average in 60 YEARS, as a rookie yet ! !
how could he not win it.?

[bruinb77]

I was surprised at Brodeur getting it, but after thinking about it, I'm not. Brodeur has never won that trophy before and has been on of the best goalies the past several years. Since this was really Turco's first year as a starter, I think that played a huge role in the voting (remember, the awards were voted on prior to the playoffs).

Still, he wasn't a bad choice, but Turco did have a better year. (there might also have been a Dallas backlash since they have a HUGE team salary).

[Easy Bake]

But for the best in 60 years deserves something beside some equipment company award( The Beckett NHL Player of the Year ).
He should have at least got the rookie of the year.
Edit:( after looking it up he may not have qualified due to how many games he played last season)

[bruinb77]

I think you're right about him playing too many games last year to be considered a rookie. Oh well, maybe next year.

[Easy Bake]

ARGGGGGHHHHH!


DANG it !


Wing Signs Hatcher :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[bruinb77]

Well, now I hate Hatcher. I can't stand the Wings. Looks like the Ducks are done already. Avs sign Kayria and Selanne.

[Easy Bake]

Stars may be making a run at federov ( Why didnt they just trade them before then?)

Wing will have trouble getting rid if CoJo
Since Hasaik is back. And look next years for wing to dump a LOT of salierys especialy if they dont win the cup.

dont know that Kayria and Selanne will help snowball much unless thier new goalie just comes out of nowere and just has a realy good season.( mabey they will get cujo from Wing)

Training camp is in only is 2 months ! ! !

[bruinb77]

Wings have a ton of salary to get rid of and lots of old guys. I think Hatcher is there to replace Chelios (who I think is near the end now). Hasek really messed things up for them since CuJo has a no trade clause and is signed for another 4 years (or is it 3). Lots of money going into the CBA. I don't think teams will be willing to spend that.

For the Avs, I'd say look for the Bulin wall to show up in Colorado. There's lots of talk in Tampa about that and not starting Bulin for the last game against NJ is a sign that things might not be good there. I've followed the Bruins for ages and I know Grahmam (But still can't spell it). He's a #1 goalie and when Tampa picked him up, I thought Bulin will be gone (since he is VERY high priced).