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earthJoker
06-22-2003, 04:11 PM
AR81 asked my once some time ago if I can upload some music.
Now I had the time and uploaded one. Its one of my newer ones.
The idea of me was to make a song that I can but as track #1 on my personal CD so I can but it into my alarm clock with CD.
Thats one reason why it has so a slow start.
The music is elecronical, made with Orion Platinum and some VSTs.
Here is the song: earthJoker - waking up (http://www.n.ethz.ch/student/jericket/earthJoker_-_waking_up.ogg)*
The .ogg fomat is suported by newer winamp versions. So it shouldn't be a problem for you to listen to it.
If you got any comments or critics about it you are welcome. Of course I would like to have constructive comments.
* You are only allowed to download this song for private non-comercial use. All rights of the song are holded by Thomas Jericke alias earthJoker. For private use the download is absolutly free,
serapis
06-22-2003, 04:49 PM
Thats really really really good :up:
Dreadnaught
06-23-2003, 01:51 AM
Upgrading to a new winamp would be...problematic. I'm going to put this on my "things to do with new laptop when I get it list" :) :up:
earthJoker
06-23-2003, 06:06 AM
tnx for the positive response serapis,
@Dread: You don't need winamp 3 a winampt 2.8 or later should be fine!
I'll DL as soon as I get home.
I am a modem leech so it will take some time, specially considering that my bro use to be connected when I get home so the time window to DL is very small.
I'd be glad to listen and provide some feedback. I'm no expert musician but still, it could be of some use.
Dreadnaught
06-23-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by earthJoker
@Dread: You don't need winamp 3 a winampt 2.8 or later should be fine!
I have Winamp 2.05 :o
What's the problem of updating Winamp?
Dreadnaught
06-23-2003, 07:09 PM
Besides the fact that I'm almost out of hard drive space on this machine for some reason, my computer just doesn't take well to new programs anymore, especially media ones. They run slow and choppy and don't play some things. I upgraded my QuickTime and now I can't play most Quicktime movies. The new version of Windows Media Player that I got a few weeks ago takes *forever* to open and won't change its default media folder to where I keep my MP3s.:sour:
Yeah, I know what you mean...
I DLed WMP9 and it took property of all media extensions.
I had to edit the registry in an attempt to cut it out.
I prefer to play MP3 and WAV using WinAmp.
I just couldn't prevent WMP9 to load when I insert an audio CD.
@Earthjoker - is it possible that you could convert it to MP3? Or is there ant freeware to convert from OGG to MP3?;)
I'd update Winamp but I fear that the same thing that happened to WMV9 could happen in this case. I have when Microsoft software does what I didn't ask it to do.
The old gamer wisdom says "never update something that works".:haha:
It's great! :up:
Too bad it don't have some manly sexxxy voice singing to it tho..
Originally posted by Dreadnaught
Besides the fact that I'm almost out of hard drive space on this machine for some reason, my computer just doesn't take well to new programs anymore, especially media ones. Try downloading the following stuff at www.download.com
RegCleaner: It allows to edit your registry in a more friendly manner.
Adaware: A software by Lavasoft that scans and removes spyware elements.
Spybot search & destroy: It blocks some evil ActiveX elements in your system and scans for some other spyware stuff.
Spywareblaster: It adds more blocking to some ActiveX.
When you have your registry cluttered with garbage, spyware and unecessary DLLs, your puter is likely to show lack of space.
Also try deleting emails with big attachments. That will bring some extra room.
Dreadnaught
06-23-2003, 10:45 PM
Thanks AR. :up: I'm going to try those out
earthJoker
06-24-2003, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by AR81
@Earthjoker - is it possible that you could convert it to MP3? Or is there ant freeware to convert from OGG to MP3?;)
I can upload an mp3, I have to install a mp3 encoder first.
I stopped to use mp3 because of its license, ogg is open source and offers the same quality.
It would be a of a great help to have it as MP3.
That's the format I used for my mecha wars sequence at http://www.angelfire.com/comics/drawingtutorial/000.htm
People don't have problem with MP3.
What I believe is that having a software that could exchange from MP3 to OGG and viceversa or an OGG player would be great also.
Do you know of any of such resources?
BTW, what's the problem with MP3?
Does it mean that if I save something as MP3, I am violating any license or something?
earthJoker
06-24-2003, 12:38 PM
No but if you wanne sell something in mp3 format, or if you make a game useing mp3 or you just wanne put some mp3's on a CD as extra bonus, you will have to pay the Frauenhofer Institut for it, as they wanne have a % of your profit, as long as you have no provit any % of it is 0 and you have no problem.
As I said, any new winamp can play .ogg files, also you can see here:
http://www.vorbis.com/download_win.psp
for windowns players.
Indeed I am making music for an amateur project involving a scifi game. The programmer knows basics about DirectSound and that sort of stuff and he handles sound using WAVs.
However, WAVs are too heavy for preloading. Do you know about a resource or info website that allows him to turn to OGG??
It would be great to have a game made that uses OGG. That way you'd be promoting the usage of OGG and making the gaming experience far better.
Gee, I didn't know about the Frauenhofer Institut... it is really anoying to pay someone for the usage of a music format. It would be like paying Microsoft for using DOC files. They earn money without effort.
I can't release the music right now because the game is still under development.
Croesus
06-24-2003, 01:24 PM
Listening and it sounds good. I like techno type music sometimes. My question is how can you wake up to this, if you wrote it? Wouldn't you have gotten tired of it? I guess it is like your child.
Once I heard a composer who said that the problem of techno is that if you get used to that, your songs become repetitive and will lack a climax.
When I started tracking, I discovered that bringing a climax is very difficult.
I can compose sequenced music, but I find it very difficult to make things that lack repetitiveness.
earthJoker
06-26-2003, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by AR81
Indeed I am making music for an amateur project involving a scifi game. The programmer knows basics about DirectSound and that sort of stuff and he handles sound using WAVs.
However, WAVs are too heavy for preloading. Do you know about a resource or info website that allows him to turn to OGG??
It would be great to have a game made that uses OGG. That way you'd be promoting the usage of OGG and making the gaming experience far better.
I think the infos you find on www.vorbis.com should be fine for anything, you know that UnrealTournament 2003 uses .ogg this was another big reason for me to turn on that format as I make music for an UT2k3 mod aswell. I wouldn't use WAV its about 10 times bigger than any ogg or mp3, witch is not only space on the HD but also in RAM.
Gee, I didn't know about the Frauenhofer Institut... it is really anoying to pay someone for the usage of a music format. It would be like paying Microsoft for using DOC files. They earn money without effort.
I can't release the music right now because the game is still under development.
Well the comparison to DOC files lacks, the mp3 format is very very sophisticated, and needed years of manhours of high end skilled workers, the Frauenhofer Institut doesn't has a Word to sell so they have to get the money from the format itself to pay their workers.
earthJoker
06-26-2003, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by Croesus
Listening and it sounds good. I like techno type music sometimes. My question is how can you wake up to this, if you wrote it? Wouldn't you have gotten tired of it? I guess it is like your child.
Its not like I wake up every day with it, I have several CD's I use in my Alarm Clock,
anyway I usually don't get tired of my own music, I listen to it now and then.
I don't know how it is to have a child, but anyway you have some special relation ship to it.
Once I heard a composer who said that the problem of techno is that if you get used to that, your songs become repetitive and will lack a climax.
When I started tracking, I discovered that bringing a climax is very difficult.
I can compose sequenced music, but I find it very difficult to make things that lack repetitiveness.
Most music is repetitive, but music with vocals or real played instruments have more varity throught the human errors.
An easy way to get out the repetitiv way of makeing electronic music is to have a verse chorus verse structure (like the usual pop and rock songs) in to your music. I have done songs like that aswell.
One of the aproaches I use (and it is widely used in electronic music) is heavy use of filtering and other effects.
Also lots of breaks are always good (rythem breaks not acutual pauses in the song), and for the climax, you can use a bit acid build-up, just get the cut off slowly up and add a bit resonance to the end and it really rocks.
For a genreal rule you prolly don't wanne have more than 16 bars of repeating at an absolute maximum, I rater change a bit after every 4 or 8 bars, like adding some noises, adding hi-hats ect.
Croesus
06-30-2003, 05:39 PM
Can I post it on my ultra cool webpage? Given that I give you credit and reference?
Darn, my connection at home is not yet restored. Having problems. I have to access this forums from work...
earthJoker
07-01-2003, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Croesus
Can I post it on my ultra cool webpage? Given that I give you credit and reference?
No problem, as long as you don't change the song name I'll be fine. You can even use the direct link, my host can handle pritty lots of users ;)
I listened your song. I like it. Sounds very spacebound, inspires imagination, brings the sensation of space, floating in the endless vacuum, then the bass enters.
I'm not sure but the bass doesn't sound that good. May be it is a matter of changing instrument.
Then the rythm with a softer bass.
Lack of significant variations makes it be a bit flat.
The over all music is Ok. Sounds good for the intro of a disk. However some songs with more variations (not so flat are required in the rest of the audio disk).
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