Question: Beat the universe, got the crystals...and....

[Tweaked700]

I hope a few of you played Imperium Glactica 2 because this is a big ol question that only those who have played it a few times can get. Playing as the humans there is an opening cut scene where this leader of the brotherhood of tears froze himself to be awaken by his followers hundreds of years later. He launched four crystals which held the secret of eternal life. Problem is, if you find all 4 crystals, this leader guy will wake up and try to take over the human race and most likely try to take over the universe. Well, finally you get all 4 and your scientists figure out that the implications to revealing the 4 crystals existence would shatter your empire down the middle.

Now, from the start, the human campaign makes a massive deal about all this, from a long intro cut scene to several plot guides all around these crystals and this ruler. Now that you have them, your scientists say that they barely started to retrieve all the crystals data and that they must stall the brotherhood of tears from knowing what you now know of them The crystals). The information in all these crystals could change the very fabric of the universe and the story just STOPS rigth there.

Something always happened about these crystals every 15-20 years (game time) I think the game starts at 2400 and now I’m at 2860 (I think more) and it’s been over 90 years since I found the last crystal. If I beat the main bad guys the Hak’ren the game ends and I win but nothing is said about the crystals! Am I missing something? How long do I have to wait until the brotherhood ask for their crystal back? Does this guy actually come out of a frozen sleep?

On a side question, what happens to the android commander at the end of IG1 Does he spend his life on the run?

[Arclan Cirel]

Greetings !

I can't fault you too badly for misspelling the Kra'hen. It took me a LONG time to get that one right.

I played that scenario many times and the only thing I can remember is you get some comparably cheap ship equipped with a destructor ray. I think it is called the Behemoth.

Bah I can't remember, sorry.

The thing with the crystals is...if you don't get them, one of the computer players will.

Someone feel free to correct me or rip me a new one... I'm probably way off.

[Tweaked700]

I remember getting a cheap Kra'hen ship but that was so long ago...like the second time I played the game. Never since (and this is the 20th time playing it through) then have I never captured one. I believe that your top scientist (the one who makes the Giga bomb) gets captured AGAIN by the Kra' chicken and when you rescue him, you get that ship. Like I said, it’s been so long I do not know.

I have ALL four crystals already. The one the brotherhood gave, the one I found in the asteroids, the one I got through the Godan, and the one I pilfered from the Kra'hen. I was amazed that the Godan, or something...beat the guys with the horns and through some miracle I was able to have an alliance with the Godan and avoided paying the 20000000 credits or having to blow them away. So my problem is still this: I have the 4 crystals, all but the Kra’hen and Godan are destroyed, and that’s that. I have this really bad feeling that I have to help keep a number of alien races alive in order to truly finish the game. That would suck worse that a black hole if I had too. Help!

[Arclan Cirel]

Suck worse than a black hole LOL.

Good info. I'll try to play the single player (again) some time soon. I only play the skirmishes now since I get sooooo bored with clicking through the canned encounters of the campaign.

[Tweaked700]

Playing the Shinran (the red skinned horned guys) is a kick in the balls if you ask me. You spend the first 40 years of the game playing up your empire as K-mart to the rest of the galaxy while everyone else around you builds and conquers. Also, you would think that since the red skinned guys are master spies, you would think you could Darlok your way through the universe, but no my friend. The universe is not yet done crapping on you. Whatever so called “bonuses” the red skinned guys have in spying is about as invisible as a drunk pink elephant. Playing as those guys, I have had more problems spying that you can imagine….and the HUMANS! (Add curse word) If I did as much (add curse word) playing the humans in a campaign as THEY did to me as the red skinned guys, my sheer Universal ego would have the alliance begging for my destruction. The humans were an intergalactic Microsoft toward me! No really! You have no IDEA how much crap they get away with.

Playing the Kra,hen may seem cool at first, since you can kill innocent trading ships, but sacrificing your people by the millions can get a bit tiresome. You’ll see.


I like the humans because at least when I create a building, it looks like a human building for a human. One of my biggest gripes with IG2 was that every alien race had the same building structure. Kina defeats the purpose of having aliens.


I hate to be selfish btu I REALLY REALLY would love to know how to really really finish the Human campaign.

[Tweaked700]

Come on people, help me out here...

[Tweaked700]

Is there some stragity guide on line? I’ve already seen the .txt on line version that gives an over view of the three major races and has a listing of building stats but that didn’t help. Please, someone, there must be an answer to my question on the first post. Please help.

[Chyron]

i played and completed the human campaign (feel free to gasp and stare in stunned awe and admiration) without any major hitches. the crystals are vital to the story, i can't remember the specifics but i think the third/fourth crystal is with some race who tried to blackmail you into giving 20 million credits, it was the Godan when i played it, but they were being wiped out by the Kra'hen (it displayed "get crystal from Godan empire") so the Kra's had the crystal in their possession so to speak when they conquered them.

i sent a fleet after many times trying and managed to get the crystal, naturally they declared war on my sorry butt but i needn't had worried as i'd entered a pact with the Shinari, who in this game, were almighty.

the Shinari were slowly liberating (conquering) all the planets that the Kra's possessed.

**spoiler alert** once i had all the crystals, a cut-scene played out saying i had to wipe out the Kra'hen (it showed humans alongside other races all in a conference room).

so the scene was set...wipe them out, all of them.

the rest is history...

currently i'm playing through the Shinari campaign and yes i'm getting all these merchants and traders wanting quotas filled and things to be purchased. i'll see how it goes.

Tweaked700: the game starts somewhere in 2300 AD i think and managed to finish it about 200 years later and i thought i was taking my time! the story ends when the revelation about the crystals is mentioned (it's been awhile since i played it) the BoT don't get the crystals.

and, are you sure it was the leader of the BoT that got frozen? i thought it was your character, the Emperor.

the BoT is still around when you wake up and you must prevent them from knowing what you know - i.e. **SPOILER ALERT** all the other races were genetic experiments.

[Tweaked700]

Ok, the guy who gets frozen IS the original leader of the BoT. This is made clear when you JUST start a new Human campaign. The computer voice tells you to keep an eye on the BoT and that if their leader is awaken from his Cryo sleep, your empire could plunge into civil war. So that guy who gest frozen is not you at all byt the leader of the BoT who is waiting for his Brotherhood to find the 4 lost crystals and revive him so HE can take over.

Yes, I am way past the cut scene where the empires get together and talk of the Kra,hen race and Way past knowing what the alien races really are. BUT WHAT THE HECK IS THE BoT Doing Now? I have All 4 crystals and NOW what? It's like the BoT went on vacation and never came back!....HELP

[Chyron]

The game story doesn't thread into the BoT bringing armadeggon on your empire, sorry to burst your bubble. :down:
i know it's a loose end to tie up but it just doesn't happen. the only thing left for you to do is wipe out the Kra'hen and watch the final cutscene. that's it. the end. finito.
the BoT don't come into it.
:bulb:

[Tweaked700]

Are you Freaking Kidding me?????? Why the frickin hector does a game have a whole freakin cut scene about this emperor of the BoT, Warns you over and over through the game about him and then FLUSHES IT DOWN A BLACK HOLE??? Blood Pressure Rising…..RAGE …..TAKING…OVER….. Then that means there is 100% NO Freakin point to the Human campaign!!!! I might Just as well play Space invaders and blow the crap out of pixel aliens! What drunken sailor who dresses like his sister on a Saturday night Creates a story line where the Freakin Main point of the story is Totally and utterly POINTLESS!!!!! GHAAA!!! Anyone want to buy a Freakin pointless original IG2 Game Because I’m never playing the dam thing again because the dam museum is closed for the dam tour!

I digress, Blood pressure lowering, Rage decreasing, I’m tired.

[Chyron]

1...2...3...4...and relax.
slow down there fella. any higher and you'll turn green and some corrupt army official will start coming after ya.

sad to say it IS the end of the game that way.

[FreeFlyer]

Wow, I have waited so long for someone to give me an answer to the Quest of the Four Tears.

I can't say the revelations are pleasant, but at least I can stop wasting time waiting for the dreadful insurrection that I had excruciatingly labored to occur and to defeat. Thank you.

[Tweaked700]

It's like a movie starting with "Space The Final Frontier..." Only to end in, "May the Force be with you..." ALL that coffee, all that tea, all that time, all that power, all that restarting....... I must have played that game for days, keeping the Kra’hen alive from the other races, trying to keep some level of peace in the universe without the other races killing each other off and FOR NOTHING! The good thing about this “revelation” is now have 500 megs of freed space on my hard drive. *Goes back to play Ascendancy*

[Chyron]

what can i say? i feel bad now for imparting bad tidings.

[Lendorien]

*delurks*

Wait, Tweaked... You'd rather play ASCENDANCY than IG2?? Yikes.

*Relurks*

[Tweaked700]

ASCENDANCY doesn't have a nebulous storyline that builds up your expectations only to drop you off at Dante’s Peak. ASCENDANCY doesn’t have crappy AI that jerks around with your game play only to screw you over the next. ASCENDANCY Allows tactics and intelligent strategy for a much smaller fleet to overcome a much larger fleet. Yes, Ascendancy has few hot key settings and after owning about 60 planets, it gets a bit tedious but the gave is very consistent. ASCENDANCY also has good graphics and excellent music even for it’s time……I’m also a die hard old gamer fan so ASCENDANCY wins by default….except for one game that I’ll most likely never get because I can’t find it anywhere and don’t have the $50 to buy it on line. Cheers!

[Ploteus]

Originally posted by Tweaked700
except for one game that I’ll most likely never get because I can’t find it anywhere and don’t have the $50 to buy it on line. Cheers!

What game is that? I´m curious. Space Empires? Galactic Civilizations? Master of Orion? Well, I also like Ascendancy, I played it a lot, but it´s past its time now. If you don´t like the storyline in Imperium Galactica, play the skirmisher cenarios........It´s like Ascendancy but more intricate and complete. Try that, or continue playing Ascendancy:D
About the music, I can´t say nothing about that, I always turn the music off in my games, so I don´t know if the music is good or not......
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[grgr]

I wiped out the universe right after collecting the second crystal so I didn't even have a chance to wait for the next 2. Next time I left one alien race but apparently the wrong one...

The game became too easy when I realized AI can be "cheated".
I don't get into fights with stronger fleets. Whenever he takes one of my planets and travels to another one, one of my smaller fleets retake it. By the time he flies to retake it back, my second fleet is already attacking elsewhere.

Since my first fleet is shadowing his, the guns he builds are never ready by the time I attack.

In one of the missions when I had to save the daughter of some trader, I retook the planet a number of times and gt paid everytime. It got soo boring..

grgr

[Ploteus]

Originally posted by grgr
The game became too easy when I realized AI can be "cheated".
(...)
In one of the missions when I had to save the daughter of some trader, I retook the planet a number of times and gt paid everytime. It got soo boring..


Yes, I agree with you, the A.I could and should be improved. About the history, I also agree with you, I didn't give it much thought, It was good as a sidekick for the game the first times, but after a while, it starts to get boring. I don´t like games that give too much importance to a certain chain of events, for we will be tied to those events, every time we play....... Fortunately, you don´t have to capture all crystals every time you play in order to win!
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[Karthik]

Oh man, I must say that IG2 has weakest storyline in the series eventhough there's 3 races! It's like the Broken Sword series! The first was the best the second had the weakest story.

Anyway, what's even worse is IG2 is set before part 1, and about the android commander in part 1......well let's just say that after he finds he's not human, he ends up cleaning up the enemies and the final cutscene is like.....a typical b-movie flick. We see the news reporting the victory and the android commander will be in one conner smoking and thinking what to do next. The End!