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USSJ VEGETA
07-02-2003, 12:07 AM
1.Goku

2.Vegita

3.Gohan (young)

4.Gohan (teen)

5.Great Saiya man (Gohan)

6.Mista Saatan (Hucule)

7.#16

8.#17

9.#18

10.#19

11.Cell

12.Ginyu

13.Dodoria

14.Freeza

15.Krillin

16.Nappa

17.Piccolo

18.Raditz

19.Recoome

20.Tienshinhan

21.Trunks

22.Yamucha

23.Zarbon

24.Young Trunks

25.New Gohan

26.Videl

27.Goten

28.Majin Vegeta

29.Supreme Kai

30.Dabura

31.Android 20

32.Kid Buu

33.Fat Buu

34.Super Buu


COOL ?
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-Saiyan Universe-
07-02-2003, 12:21 AM
I think there may be a teaser character from dbgt possibly ss4 goku.

Lord Frieza
07-02-2003, 03:56 AM
Cool list, USSJ Vegeta. Thanks for posting it. I've heard that there will be 3 secret characters in addition to those listed, but that may be false info. It'd be cool if they could include Pikkon somewhere. I've always liked him.

I'll settle for the inclusion of SS3 Goku, though :).

MBStone
07-02-2003, 06:54 AM
Where are the fusions? Can't you play with the fusion characters? And why 3 forms of buu? He could transform in the other forms. I think the characterlist is ok but it could be better. I hope you can play with the fusions!

Badtz234
07-02-2003, 10:24 AM
because each one is different than the last in name of attacks
if anything Mystic Gohan is just a waist of character space
and if they're going to put characters like Zarbon, , Dodoria, and 19 in the game where's? Yamu, Spopovitch, Pui-Pui, Chazu Yakkon, Picuhan oh and Ubuu and as for the the other characters how can there be only 3 secret characters if there is supposed to be the what if fusions included.:confused:

MBStone
07-02-2003, 12:04 PM
thanks for explaining (3forms of Buu). I just hope that you can play with the fusions and not just watch how they look.

Degs
07-02-2003, 12:17 PM
Think of it this way, when Tekken went from Tekken 1 to 2 then to 3 onto Tekken Tag, how many characters did you get? At most between each one, you only got 2 maybe 3 or 4 at most. Budokai I believe now will have the most available fighters in any fighting game. They added 11 to the already large list of 23. That's pretty crazy. Not to mention a lot of work on the art side.

As far as the fusions go, I don't think they are going to list them. I believe you can make almost any fusion from the sounds of it. There'll be more solid information in the coming months though.

Degs

MBStone
07-02-2003, 12:25 PM
Thanks Degs. You're right about the character-list. So if they don't add the fusions to the list, why are they saying that Budokai 2 has 11 more available fighters? I just don't understand how the fusions will work. I will wait for more information.

Degs
07-02-2003, 12:28 PM
Hehe, I know, technically it's a lot more because of fusions :eek:. Either way, the base number will be 34. The fusions don't really count as "characters" since it's the combining of two into one, so I guess it's just using what's available to augment a new character. Boy, my head is spinning now :weird:. Anyways, hehe, as you said, we'll wait for more information and it should become more clear. I can't wait :D.

Degs

CloudgathererX
07-02-2003, 12:37 PM
What worries me is that for Budokai 1 they said there were 23 playable characters. This included the "secret" characters (Hercule and Saiyaman).

Now we are being told there will be 34 characters, but we know who they all are. Not so sure they'll be any secret characters based on the previous game and current info.

From what I've read about fusions, I don't like the fact that the two fusions in the series (Vegito and Gotenks) are not stand-alone characters. I was looking forward to playing those characters and customizing them, which doesn't look like an option in this game.

And as for having "lots" of characters... Quantity does not make up for quality. The artwork and the voice-overs need to be pretty original for each, that takes a lot of work, but in terms of playability several characters could be lumped together as "the same", or having only slightly different moves/combos (in Budokai 1, likely in Budokai 2 as well). Some characters in Budokai 1 were just plain *bad* no matter how they were used and could have been removed entirely to save time/energy/criticism.

l Neo x l
07-02-2003, 09:56 PM
personally i'm glad the fusion charaters won't be a stand alone character u can choose right of the list. I mean think about it, if i choose Goku right and i power up to SSj3, and your there already off the bat as Gotenks and u got SSj3, that means no matter how much i beat you, you would never un fuse, thus you will have a WAY higher advantage because you will never power down. Oh and one thing i hope they don't have, is having to go through pressing P+P+p+k+---> just to do a kamehameha wave. I don't know... just feel weird having to press all that if your trying to attempt a power struggle and in a way it slows you down. Would be like if i got in a fight, i would have to move my body forward 2 times, then back, then to the side to push someone :p

ayoolagoku
07-02-2003, 11:12 PM
I think it has changed

-Saiyan Universe-
07-02-2003, 11:34 PM
I hope they fix this problem up,instead of p,p,p,p,e for a kamehameha it should be a quarter forward turn then energy button and you should be able to perform moves from any where not just at the end of combo's.

Fix this and you will have a killer game at your hands.

ayoolagoku
07-03-2003, 01:11 AM
Exactly like you throw the opponent in the air and then you blast him with a kamehameha or something by pressing up, down right, circle. That would be nice

HUGEDBZFAN1
07-03-2003, 03:05 AM
very that is always the best way to do moves

half circles or full circules buttons. etc

CloudgathererX
07-03-2003, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by l Neo x l
personally i'm glad the fusion charaters won't be a stand alone character u can choose right of the list. I mean think about it, if i choose Goku right and i power up to SSj3, and your there already off the bat as Gotenks and u got SSj3, that means no matter how much i beat you, you would never un fuse, thus you will have a WAY higher advantage because you will never power down.

Huh? Did you ever play Budokai 1? If you did, then you should know better. The characters are somewhat balanced, meaning that Gotenks and Goku would have roughly the same powers when in their normal forms, and roughly the same powers when in SS3.

Of course, since they are not doing it this way (mistake, IMO), then the fusion capsules will almost certainly give an advantage.

yoyoyo
07-03-2003, 05:25 PM
YES! I was worried the 4 fusions Vegitto, gotenks, Gokule, and Tiencha would count that would have wasted space now im glad and im starting to like this game here is my guess on the 34 list

1.Goku

2.Vegita

3.Gohan (young)

4.Gohan (teen)

5.Great Saiya man

6.Hercule

7.#16

8.#17

9.#18

10.#19

11.Cell

12.Ginyu

13.Dodoria

14.Freeza

15.Krillin

16.Nappa

17.Piccolo

18.Raditz

19.Recoome

20.Tienshinhan

21.Trunks

22.Yamacha

23.Zarbon

24.Young Trunks

25.Mystic Gohan

26.Videl

27.Goten

28.Majin Vegeta

29.Supreme Kai

30.Dabura

31.Uub

32.Kid Buu

33.Fat Buu

34.Super Buu

( I think Majin Vegeta will be a capsule tho.)

l Neo x l
07-03-2003, 08:19 PM
Oh and yes cloud i did play Budokai 1, the point i'm trying to make is this. True they do balance out the characters strenghs and weaknesses, but for example, i maxed out my Vegita and i think his attack percentage power was like 220% or 225% (might have been higher), but since i had that saiyan cap on there (forgot the name of it exactly) my energy would slowly decrease during the match. I made him that way to get the job done quicky. My big bang would take out someone in one hit. But what made it balanced was that to get to my highest attack power i had to make it up to super vegita and manage to stay in it and not get knocked out of it. So what i was sayin that if SSj3 goku or SSj3 gotenks was a playable character right from the start, it doesn't matter about the balance because unlike for example my vegita, he could not get knocked down to a regular SSj because he was only selectable in a SSj3 form. But glad they are not doing it that way in B2.:up:

nighm
07-03-2003, 08:31 PM
Hmm, 34 characters, news of other secret characters, and people reqesting to play as Pikkon and Brolly. I have come to a (very undetailed) conclusion. There are secret characters! If anyone (I mean you Degs) knows anything about secret characters Budokai 2 please post here or start a thread or some thing I and many other people (I think) would very much appreciate.

Thanks,
nighm

YouMayKnowme
07-03-2003, 08:59 PM
even if he knows he won't ruin the surprize and i don't think anyone should altho i already know of "A" secret character

Ulixer5724
08-25-2004, 11:22 PM
Bump

kakkarott
08-28-2004, 05:23 AM
i though there where 40 characters and when i read that scan it said chibi goku and uub and shy sheon and gogeta are new playable characters.

Conaire
08-28-2004, 06:13 AM
This is for Budokai 2, not Budokai 3.