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Elyssia001
09-24-2003, 06:07 PM
i was just wondering, those of you who are here for horizon's, what other MMORPG's have you played?:D

Kadin
09-24-2003, 06:30 PM
Well lets see here :)

AC 1 and 2 ( 2 wasn’t worth the effort)

Ac1 was great until it just got to be the same old "wait for the patch to come out and get this months new uber loot while avoiding kill stealing archers"

DAOC
Again fun game. but eventually it was "Dark age of camp allot" basically the game's PvP aspect ruined the entire rest of it. All you did was camped gold for player crafted armor and went on 6 hour long raids for a chance a winning uber loot to get into RvR. In RvR most battles were over in under 60 seconds.

Class balance and realm point farming killed the fun in that game.

NwN. I didn’t care for this game much at all to be honest. I did however love the module writing interface. So I wrote and ran more then I played in this one. I guess is not a "real" MMORPG but close enough . I still write modules for my friends to run, god forbid they ever learn C :)

Wyndde
09-24-2003, 07:21 PM
Lessee ...

NeverWinter Nights (on AOL) :up: - Although I don't suppose this really counts, it was one of the first online game I played. It was basically the old SSI Gold Box Dungeons and Dragons style game.

Meridian 59 :up: - Great game, horid graphics ... at least compared to what we have now. ;)

Everquest :up: - Although bashed about alot, this was and is a great game as far as content. There is a TON of stuff to do in EQ, unfortunately most of it involves camping (sitting in the same spot for hours or even days and trying to get a certain spawn or item).

AC1 :up: and AC2 :down: - AC1 was actually kind of fun. The heirarchy system was an interesting spin on the guild system of other games. They also had a monthly patch that changed things in the game to a specific theme. This was a very neat idea that did little to actually make the game better or worse, but was fun anyway. AC2 on the other hand was so boring I didn't last the free month. :/

Anarchy Online :down: - This was a great concept. A sci fi setting that promised a new mission (quest) system that was innovative and amazing graphics. AO is also the "How to" guide if you want to destroy your customer base by ignoring them (and the beta testers as well) and patching with what could only be patches that were untested. This game was the most disappointing to me personally. I fought through the first few WEEKS of bugs and link deaths and made it through what we all believed was the worst of it. Then the patch from hades hit and after 3 days of not being able to play and no information from Funcom I quit and haven't looked back.

Dark Age of Camelot :up: :down: - DAoC was a great premise in that the end-game was not really an xp hunt, but a Realm vs. Realm (or player vs. player) war. Unfortunately, Mythic did little to balance the RvR game in the beginning and is still having problems with that class balance. Casters generally have little to do in RvR since they are easy to kill and are thusly killed almost immediately in combat by stealthers. Certain weapons, skills, and/or abilities have made a few classes too powerful. Of course, Mythic then comes back and changes those classes (nerfing), which tends to make folks mad. However, the xp side of Camelot, along with the best tradeskill paths and housing have made DAoC popular and a pretty good game.

Neverwinter Nights (Atari) - Great game, although technically not a real MMORPG as it misses on the "Massively" part of that. However, it is a GREAT game for a dm and party that emulates pen and paper D&D better than any other game I can think of at the moment.

I think that's all of them, I'm probably missing one or two, but these were the most significant ones that I played. The best part of all of them were the friends made and kept from game to game. Currently I have friends in all of these games and am recruiting them to join me in Horizons.

Wyndde

tripleb
09-24-2003, 10:37 PM
EQ was really my first and I stuck with it for several years, despite my primary being a dark-elf rogue who actually put points into int :P (Silly me I was trying to RP). I actually had rubacite I looted and did the Drez camp for my j-boots. It was really the high end of the game that turned me away, when I couldn't get into anything fun unless I logged on for four plus hours, but I think EQ did have many good qualities in general.

PointlesS
09-25-2003, 12:19 AM
dunno if this counts...but planetside :D and also everquest...I got into everquest a little but after the 500th orc I killed in the exact same place I just got so bored and gave up...

remainz
09-25-2003, 12:58 AM
10six from closed beta until the bitter end ...Legacy Online, highly addictive very political and unfortunately lacks a serious amount of excitement but its alot of game to play:)

Darkhowl
09-25-2003, 08:08 AM
hum - yserbis on the long gone INN network - NWN /aol , M59 / look for my name on the back cover , UO , EQ , Realm ( still play , its old but hey its cheap ) , AC , AO , DAoC , NWN (reborn ) , SB , SWG , Fighting Legends ( loved that game one of the best , played beta and continued after it went gold , bad marketing it bit the dust , too bad )
Best of the bunch ? First NWN

finrod
09-25-2003, 02:06 PM
The Fourth Coming :) seldom played , closed soon , free MMORPG in isometric view ( diablo , BG2 for example ) , quite fun
Dark Age of Camelot :up: :down: actualy playing , quite fun , too " informatized " ( numbers and irealistics math everywhere in a non really hidden way ) , too much " RoXXor " , too many ppl who forget it's a game and thinks they " are the uBBer destructor who rocks everything ", recently i've turned to Roleplay ( and it DOES exists in daoc ) ,and it's much funnier that way ! it permits you ( among many other) not to care to be extra powerful , and ignore the boasters and all.
Nothing else to do than kil mobs to xp to kill mobs and so on until lvl 50 ( except if you roleplay ) then go kill ennemies to gain rp ( realm points ) and so on... :p

Elyssia001
09-25-2003, 03:17 PM
wow! i got more response than i expected in only one day!

DAOC has a lot of good things going for it, but after 20 months i've done everything and had my fill in rvr. (realm vs realm) RvR has gotten especially boring since i play mainly healers (cleric, druid, healer) and with buff bots on the loose, i've been kicked out of my job by dumbbards and such. "oops, sorry, we're full. each of us has an uberbot in the group, so no room for a player healer!":sour:

Even with an expansion coming up, it will still be more of the same. organizing a 100+ member raid to go kill in the uber dungeon, then after 4 hours, sit around and hope you win the lotto for the loot you want. Though the specialty quests or "trials" as they are putting them are promising. I hope horizons intagrates something along those lines. they may have already, and i missed it in thier website.

Tokamatta
09-25-2003, 03:18 PM
Hiya,

I guess I have a long list compared to some, so Here it is :
Mage Storm
Legends of Kesmai
EverQuest
Ashrens Call
The 4th Coming
Lineage
Shadowbane
Most of the games I've played had good points and bad points ( examples no real content in SB, Evercamping in EQ and so on) . I have had fun in all of them in one way or another. I am just waiting for Horizons now.

Tokamatta

Kambria
09-26-2003, 09:44 PM
Ultima Online - was one of the lucky people who got into it early, enjoyed it till it became popular, then made the tough decision to quit when the lag problems went on, and on.... and onnnn... laughed about the lawsuit. :D

Baldur's Gate I and II online, Diablo II and 1st expansion online, NWN and 1st expansion online. (not massive as such, but lots of people on the servers at once.) - These were good, very interesting... got boring fairly quickly. Some had duping problems (cheating) others had a fair percentage of newbies that made me think people didn't play them long. NWN was interesting at times, very frustrating at times, and downright dull at times.

Tribes and Tribes II - again not massive, but potentially lots of players on at once. LOVE ROCKET PACKS! This is Quake/Unreal in a huge area, without all the dumb jump-pad gimmicks. Very mod-able, but frustrating to get a team to work together. BUT, when a team worked together it was amazing!

Dark Age of Camalot - I played for several months, but it got very routine. Too much playing with the balance, PvP was frustrating cause there really was no incentive to work together. (Other than staying with the healers so you wouldn't die fairly quick, but stealthers took out healers so fast that the group was constantly going back to the gate to re-group.)

Asheron's Call II - This game kept my attention for about 4 months or so now. I'm finally worn out after 2 characters at level 50, and about 3 characters around level 30. A couple days ago I had just made the decision to create a new character, and then realized that I was very tired of levelling past 30. The quests were all repeats of lower level ones, at least the quests that did your character any good, and the extra skills just weren't worth all the time that levelling took. So, now I'm just about to give my peerless crafting tools to some friends and take myself out. Probably will keep on going for a bit though, helping the newbies in the guild for a couple months until Horizons comes out (unless I get in the beta... ;)

Elyssia001
09-26-2003, 10:08 PM
think the dev read these and take into account our complaints about other mmorpgs? Maybe they coudl learn something about what a few of us see as +'s and -'s in other mmorpgs.:p that'd be neat.

skyla
09-26-2003, 10:14 PM
in the beginning ultima online changing to the fourth coming (yet playing t4c cause of the people i like). here i have to look at finrod, 'cause i know the name. is he the same one?

i tested daoc. pvp and the bunch of unaged kids destroys it. still i have an account in daoc i use it very rare in the moment. same at neocron. a good idea, but too much kids with bad behaviours.

finrod
09-27-2003, 01:46 PM
no i wasn't finrod in T4C , sry if u were expecting a friend :(

the name was already taken for i began playing a few weeks ( very few , sth like 2 weeks ) before they closed the servers:( but the few of it I saw was good :)

Elayus
09-27-2003, 09:21 PM
Here's a list, in no particular order:

-Ac1
-Ac2
-Eq, and some of the expansions of course
-Meridian 59
-The Realm (first graphical MMORPG ever, was great fun at the time)
-Shadowbane
-Fourth Coming (really fun, especially for pking)
-Dark Ages (not of Camelot. This was an isometric anime-style mmorpg)
-Ragnarok Online (very fun korean MMORPG)


And of those, I betatested:

-Ac1
-Ac2
-Ragnarok


Which brings me to the question:

Lemme in horizons beta PWEASE!?

Elyssia001
09-27-2003, 09:36 PM
ha ha! i see so many of you with so much more experiance in mmorpgs and beta testing than i do, and it makes me so happy to know that this is all random!!

Go Atari!!!

i don't mean to sound mean or anything, i'm a very nice gal, you just have to understand how happy i am that i have equal chance as everyone else does.:p

Snick
09-30-2003, 12:30 PM
This is getting moved down the line a bit, but i think its still relevant to me anyways...if nothing else, it gets a bump to the top ;-)

lets see.....

AC1 - i LOVED this game, was badass in my opnion...but then they started making everything waaaay to easy for whiners....like Pyreal not weigh anything....and...sadly...i WAS an archer...one of those uber caster archers ;-) when the ymade making arrows really easy...i quit.....was jsut no challenge to the game anymore....

AC2- beta tested this....sucked ***, so i didnt bother with it when the yreleased it

EQ- played this my freshman year in college....i blame it for some of my bad grades ;-) got tired of hte camping tho...like many did...and so it joined my collection of games on the shelf

do Diablo and Diablo 2 count? diablo was my first online rpg ever.....really not sure how i had time for it in high school....but i did.....

Shadowbane- nice idea....but i didnt last through the first month....got my char to 60 and quit....was on Death server...in the Lokri alliance if anyone played there ;-)

Star Wars Galaxies- thought it would be cool...laser guns and stuff....but i just couldnt stand it after 2 weeks.....

Dark Ages of Camelot- this was my baby, played it between trying all these new games.....and always went back to her in the end...i WAS going to get the expansion....but lets face it....expansion to game i kno well, all of its +'s and -'s......or this new game i been dying to play as it is? heh, will be seeing you all in Horizon's, hopefully

oh yes, had to say something more bout daoc....all the class balancing and such....if you REALLY knew how to play ur char there were no unbalancing....and casters dying quickly....its rather hard to kill them when they travel with a grp....and nowadays....they mostly AE nukers anyhow....toasts the crap out of any Meleer that wants to take a stab at em....ok...one again there's my 2 cp :D

Elyssia001
09-30-2003, 04:04 PM
i think a lot of people loved daoc in the begining.. then it became like a bad relationship.

you stay with it because you remember when you got so much enjoyment out of it, :D

you want to leave because they've changed everything that made the game worth playing. :cry:

you leave to try other games, but they're not as good as daoc was in the begining. :(

so those of us like that have put all our hope into horizons as the answer to our out of the bad relationship.

Snick
09-30-2003, 04:22 PM
you make us sound so depressing :weird:

Elyssia001
09-30-2003, 04:55 PM
well its true.


btw, isn't my little dragon cute? i drew him myself =D:p

Snick
09-30-2003, 05:36 PM
aye cute dragon, just wait till i get my avatar tho....buahahahahaha

Pyros
10-01-2003, 12:54 AM
I haven't played any MMOs, because at the moment, I feel none of them have got the concept right to the point that whenever I play, it's a new and changing world, not the same old "kill a giant rat to level up" fest it is now. I have beta tested a lot of MMOs though.

Ringwraith
10-04-2003, 12:35 PM
Well I've seriously played:

Everquest: Sucked at first, but then I got into a Guild and it became incredibly fun, but the camping gameplay and lack of decent tradeskills turned me off after awhile.

Star Wars Galaxies: Had alot going for it, but in the end, this game may never get back on its feet. Horrible bugs from Beta still persist, the combat classes are out of whack, making melee useless in PvP and alot of PvE combat as well, many of the tradeskills are broken and useless now that everyone has a house and few new players are streaming in, and content is severly lacking. Im still playing it, but am looking for a new game, right now it looks like either Horizons or FFXI.

Ive alos Betad

AC2, SWG, Neocron, and Earth and Beyond.

Dalsa
10-04-2003, 01:02 PM
Ooo ya beat me to it! I was going to post the same question today! Well, heres what I've played of the years.

Anarchy Online, I've played this game from beta, I still have an active account, though, since the realise of the expansion pack "Shadow Lands" I've been playing less, for anyone thats interested I have afew chars all 150+ one 201 ^_^ Anyone from AO will understand.

EverQueue in line, I played this one for a month.. then, sadly so say I moved on, this game just didn't do it for me, looked pretty however.

Graal, *Hides his face* I was a LAT on a Graal server for a year, oh wow those were the days, anyone thats played Graal will probably know what a LAT is, what a job :haha:

Faldon, low budget game made by a guy in a box room no doubt, knock up google search for it some time, makes for good light hearted gaming while your main game is down.

I've touched on afew of the other games too, I think at some stage I've played all the major RPG's, only game I'm yet to play is SWG, and, I don't think I ever will :(

Dartje
10-07-2003, 09:48 PM
Thought i gave my list too :D

Baldur's gate: This was the first rpg i became hooked on (even in multiplayer). VERY solid story, very nice graphics (i loved the backgrounds) and a great way of personalizing your own character.

Anarchy Online: My first MMORPG i've played. I liked it (<-- wierd hmm ? :D). I'm a sci-fi fan so this game was very much to my likeing. After about 6 months of full time leveling of my doctor i tried to do a solo mission and failed miserably (i could do them easily when i was about lvl20 :)). That was i think the beginning of the end at AO for me. Played a few other character but couldn't bear myself to go killing monster again and again and again and again...

Baldur's Gate 2: Rejoice! The sequel of my most favorite singleplay rpg was here! I played it and didn't liked it... i missed the freedom i had in Baldur's gate... Sure.. you can leave the city to about 4 places but its all very linear. Quited the game before i finished it.

Dark Age of Camelot: Now this was a very strange thing... I just tripped over a url on irc for the daoc european beta. I downloaded the thing and was hooked.... Amazing graphics (for mmorpgs standard that is...), solid gameplay, high level content (rvr) and the Realm vs Realm was a very nice idea and well built. I hated the level threadmill and loved the rvr part of daoc. The game was killed for me by: buffbots (i was a healer), twinks (who has the highest resists will win the battle) and the leveling threadmill.

Never Winter Nights: I was very sceptical about this game but eventually bought it and played it... Didn't liked it at first, but a few months later i reinstalled it and kept playing... Again a very solid story, still some freedom (what i missed in bg2), and the graphics... I loved the online part too but never could get the hang of it from the diffrent modules...

Asheron Calls 2: This game couldn't grab my attention... Empty HUGHE cities (all ruins, you couldn't enter the buildings) with only 1 or 2 npc in them. Boring gameplay, boring terrain... i was bored within a month :)

Earth & Beyond: Wierd game! But nice for a few months (if your bored as me :p). Played it for several months and it was enjoyable, but couldn't quite grab me like daoc (or horizons now). I do hope that this MMORPG will get better, it has hughe potential.

Beta'd:
Neocron: funny game, but not my style.
Star Wars - Galaxies: devs killed the game in beta3
Dark Age of Camelot - Euro version: I loved this game...
Eve: Couldn't log in or it was too damn laggy... couldn't test ****...
Earth & Beyond: Only open beta a day before launch :D
Horizons: I SO WANNA JOIN THIS BETA! plz ?

** EDIT ** added AC2, Eve, E&B

Speedtospare
10-07-2003, 10:15 PM
Greetings all. First post. I ahve played almost every MMORPG since a friend got me hooked on Ever crack. I generally like the medievil style game (knights, wizards and dragons baby) I am not much for the techo futureistic stle like anarchy online.

funkmaster
10-09-2003, 01:52 AM
I guess I should give my list a go which like everyone else is in no real order:

Diablo I & II and expansion( for almost 4 years) And yes like everyone else said, not really an MMORPG but it had the amount of players and the realms..

Lineage II
Asheron's Call 2
Anarchy Online
Mu Online (Currently trying this one out)
Horizons (he he :) )
Blackmoon Chronicles
Planetside(Only for a little, this one sucked imho)
NWN (I guess I will count it as others are)

Azzikai
10-09-2003, 04:00 PM
Of the strictly multi-player variety:

Various MUDs. Played and helped build...I preferred the building part really. There were only 3 MUDs that I truly enjoyed playing, all still going strong from what I can tell.

Diablo/Diablo II - Meh, okay games for what they are I suppose.

Everquest - Warts and all, still one of my favorite games. The game itself is vastly different from what it was. The only constant is that, in the end, it's the communities of the servers that make or break the gaming experience. There is so much that is right about this game and so much that is wrong, very hard to explain. Look at it this way, a lot of people complain incessantly about EQ yet still play. That says something and hopefully future game developers are listening.

DAoC - Played this from release day until 3 months later when I just got bored. I know the game has changed since but what a dull and uninteresting world it started out as.

Kiaz...

Sweetwater
10-09-2003, 06:50 PM
My husband is to blame for me getting into these. I had played with OLD games on my OLD computer for a long time (talking Zork I, II, III and some of the old Commodore games, hee hee).

My husband started getting some of the newer games on our newer computer. Then my husband got EQ when it came out, and after watching him play day after day... he tells me to start a character. He still regrets that :P

I finally had to quit EQ cause the high end game was stressful and eating away at family time (not for the casual player at all!!).

I did beta testing for Anarchy, but that was so bugged at the end of beta I knew it wasn't going to be worth buying (had such a filled notebook of bugs that I had submitted...yikes!).

I also beta tested for SWG (and unfortunately already had it preordered, which I will never do for a game again). I had high expectations for this one and it did not deliver. I still have an active character, but it will be cancelled soon I think because I am tired of paying to submit some of the same problems & bugs that had been submitted in beta with several new ones thrown in!!

I am more interested in the tradeskills end of the games, so I am looking into some of the newer mmorpgs coming out. Horizons does look promising.

Elyssia001
10-10-2003, 02:46 PM
=) woohoo! goos to know there will be another REAL lady in the game =)

JackAssFan
10-11-2003, 02:25 AM
Hi all,
I’ve just joined up here and i thought i would contribute to the community :p anyways here's a little list of MMORPG's I’ve played.

Legend Of Mir 2 - The 3 Hero's :up:
Legend Of Mir 3 - Evil Illusions :up::up:
Asheron Calls 2 :up::down:
Runescape (dunno why i played that) :down:

Drakenfel
10-13-2003, 11:11 PM
This is my first post, so hi everyone.

I think what really defines a multiplayer and especially a MMORPG game is it's players. To name a few type of players you have the power gamers, the PvPers, the Roleplayers, the semi-roleplayers, or any combination of those. I always run into greatly made multiplayer games (MMORPG or not) that I decide to abandon because most of the player-base is something I find distasteful.

MMORPG's are sometimes not as dynamic as you would expect. You spend a lot of time building a character and end up find a lot of time on your hands when you are finished. Since Dungeon Masters or Game Masters are not exactly hosting extra quirks (like events) for everyone and particularly you...you tend to turn to other players to find excitement. If I look around and find a lot of bland and mindless players around...I tend to find that game boring. This is usually where guilds come in and other such player communities.

Here is some of my list:

Ultima Online: Second Age -- I thought that this was a great game for many reasons. You could make a character that was a jack of many trades or a master of a few. I always keep coming back to it at least once a year...storming player-run shards after my OSI days. Finding other players who had a brain beyond collecting items or building up their skills was appealing. This was a game that had potential PvP warfare and was a breeding ground for player politics/society.

Everquest -- I played in old world (before and a bit after the Kunark expansion came out). I thought it was absolutely cool in it's style of play...but I found it to a paradise for powergamers after awhile. If you find a great guild it makes it a better at a new level.

Shadowbane -- This game had terrible bugs. The kind of bugs that made the game absolutely unplayable...literally. It was a screensaver for the first month or two of release. I decided to be patient though...and eventually they did fix these bugs. The graphics might not be that great...and there is even COPY/PASTE terrain (by that...I mean you can walk on another continent and find the same forest you found on another...the exact same), but I have to give this game credit -- it's system rocks. Every character class has it's own way of building itself. You are guaranteed to gimp your first character unless you do an hour of researching on what you are trying to make. Every class could be further customized by applying "runes" with unique abilities. You can also construct cities and guilds/kingdoms that you desire. There is forced player politics within the game since it is a guild vs guild game.

Neverwinter Nights -- Although this game isnt massively multiplayer like EQ or UO, there are a few groups who have constructed their own "persistant worlds" to simulate such an environment at a smaller scale. It's biggest flaw is that it is made to be a "solo" game -- the single player is made to be a one (two, if you count a henchman) army to fight the forces of evil. Because of this, you have to really edit the game to make it more cooperative play when it comes to multiplayer. I used to host a server that developed quite a great community of roleplayers. It is being revived and a new test server is up if anyone is interested. (I am not the admin. anymore, though).

http://wired.recongamer.com/rovenna/Home.htm


Sorry for the long post.

505d3505
10-17-2003, 06:31 AM
i have played Helbreath for a wile, when it was still beta (read laggy) been playing on usa when we had to pay...

And also I played Anarchy Online,

Looked great but didn't work like it should.
It wasn't much fut for me so i quit after about 20 minutes.

ZimZ
10-17-2003, 08:36 AM
I love MMORPGs and play any beta i can get hold of.


Asheron's Call

My first mmorpg and i was stunned, play with houndres of other ppl worldwide and hunt monsteres for good loot, really just hooked me. However i didt stick too long to this game.

EverQuest:

Played EQ for lots of time, and it was very good, sadly the end game was just to much for me, shouting LFG for hours with no luck, die alot and lose HOURS and HOURS of gameplay, lose your corpse and your items because it decay, this game is for hardcore mmorpg players imo.

Asherons's Call 2

Nice GFX, but i only played it 2 days before i was bored to tears.

World War II Online

Nice concept, i really looked forward to this game, but the gfx, the sound, the lag made this game not so enjoyable to play.
Also you needed a joystick to fly aircrafts and cannons, wich was pretty stupid imo.

ToonTown Online

heh it was Quite fun really, the little multiplayer games with other to earn jellys, but its for the younder gamers out there :)

PlanetSide

Not the first MMOFPS (see WWIIONLINE) but it was very enjoyble to play in huge battles, however in my case i was to bored doing the same thing all over, cap base, recap, cap more bases etc etc.

Dark Age Of Camelot:up:

Best MMORPG today imo.

GFX is nice, all combat, items, crafting, spells etc is very userfriendly. RvR is great addon if you tired of PvE, and if you tired of RvR just PvE a little. The game is pretty balanced if you look on theres 32 classes 3 realms, and its not all that unbalceing, i greatly enjoy RvR with my Sorc and Paladin.

overall this game is nice to look at, fun to play, and after almost 1,5 years of gameing in Albion ive only seen about 33% of the game(1 out of 3 realm)

The Sims Online

The Sims is very popular however, many thinks the online version of it is basiclly a expensive and nice looking chat program, wich i agree.

Ones to watch.

World of Warcraft:

MMORPG made by Blizzard? cant go wrong on this.

Horizons:

Wow, i just saw the teaser a few days ago and it looks very cool and nice, yes im in the pending crew :)

Warhammer Online:

I really loved Warhammer Dark Omen, so a online looking version in the warhammer world can only be good.

Sorry for my bad gramma :)

wedgie
10-17-2003, 05:55 PM
Hi all, new here too, thought I'd add my xp (heh)

UO: became a GM Chef and Tailor. I baked loaves of bread until I was blue in the face. I also used to stand around banks and give away free food (yes, I got heckled).

EQ: didn't get far but addicted nonetheless. I gave it up because of the late nights (hah!).

DAOC: the bane of our existence. Both my fiancee and I started playing and lost many, many hours of our lives to this game. It's been a love/hate relationship for us. Right before (the first time) I left, I was an officer in a guild and my cleric was one of the highest leveled characters (in the guild). I left because of time (went back to school). I started up again when the expansion came out. Played for a couple of months then quit again because it was the same old same old. I miss some of my guildmates though.

Anarchy Online: decided to give it a try after leaving DAoC for the first time. Became a Trader and joined a very nice guild/corporation. At one point doing the missions just got annoying (since my Trader wasn't really a fighting type), and it became yet another level grind.

The Sims Online: beta tested this and stayed with it for about a month after release. Beta was fun and I ran a fiction online newspaper based on the server I played. Ultimately, it did feel like a graphical chat system (kind of like The Palace but fancier, remember that?).

EQ Online Adventures: beta tested this as well, but didn't really get to play as I hated the controls and could not get used to playing a MMORPG on a console. (I didn't want to buy a keyboard for the PS2.)

SWG: very promising but very buggy. Trying to move was painfully slow. My character was a budding chef, but I didn't get farther than making Jawa Beer before I started playing KOTOR instead. Had to cancel due to being addicted to KOTOR.

Played a bunch of others (been gaming since Ultima had green pixels), but that's it as far as MMORPGs go. :D

Soapurb
10-18-2003, 12:57 PM
If you've played 1 MMORPG you have played them all.

*clicks a rock, click a furnace, clicks an anvil*

YOU SEE THAT? DID YOU??? I JUST MADE A SWORD!!!!! HOW WICKED IS THAT??? I just might go kill something with it! like a slime!

Istaria
10-18-2003, 09:07 PM
Soapburb,

If you feel like that, why are you a beta tester for games. That makes no sense. You have to volunteer to do this, they didn't come looking for you. No one is forcing you to play any thing and they aren't forcing you to use this forum.

So far all of your posts have been rude and negative and as far as I can tell you have broken the NDA more than once.

Why post here at all or play any MMORPG's if you feel this way?

I know that there can't be an intelligent answer to that question but I still felt the need to ask it. :eek:

Now, please have some consideration for people that do want to be beta testers and are dying to play Horizons. This board was meant for us and others that do enjoy MMORPG's.

Not yet chosen but very hopeful, :)

Sweetwater
10-18-2003, 09:43 PM
Same questions were in my head as well Istaria. Anyone with such a negative attitude towards something should just stay away rather than get all bent out of shape over it. I would rather see POSITIVE input on these boards than negative.

Soapurb
10-18-2003, 09:46 PM
Did I say I don't like MMORPG's man? No I'm the next generation in finding something wrong with absolutely everything ;)

*is clicking the anvil*

"lag..."

Soapurb
10-18-2003, 10:04 PM
Well I participated in a lot of MMORPG's but one I can't say I'm looking forward too is World Of Warcraft. Blizzard has made a lot of good RTS games but thier RPG's have been, well, unimpresive.

d/d2: You chose from a small selection premade characters who had 4 stats to increase, and almost everything about the character came from the items it used, it was increadibly linear, the character system was crap to the point of it being almost console style. The items were in fact traded for up to thousands of US dollars (now what kind of lifeless freak does that?) Now I'm not going to dis World of Warcraft, because I've never played it, but I must say if they want get back my respect for their RPG's, it'll wanna be pretty bloody good.

Untill then, I'm fine with horizons.

Just my 2 cent's, unless you wanna trade my 2 cents for your soj...

Istaria
10-18-2003, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Soapurb
If you've played 1 MMORPG you have played them all.

*clicks a rock, click a furnace, clicks an anvil*

YOU SEE THAT? DID YOU??? I JUST MADE A SWORD!!!!! HOW WICKED IS THAT??? I just might go kill something with it! like a slime!


Yes, I think most people would think that you mean that you don't care for MMORPG's. You didn't give anyone much choice.

Then you go on to tell us which one you really, really don't want to play and add that you will be fine with Horizons. I hate to tell you but every post you have made here has been nothing but negative about Horizons and most of it was against the NDA.

I truly don't think you even know what you mean.

Please find the right forum for Horizons beta testers, that is, if you still are a beta tester.

Soapurb
10-19-2003, 04:08 AM
U even read the NDA? Nothing I said was against it. Read the topic of the thread: MMORPG. Thats what we are here to talk about, if you dont want to, then shutup if u had an attention span that rated higher than a cockroaches, I havent really said anything negative about horizons, MMORPG's as a whole, yes. But everything has something wrong with it, for intance, i like to find cons more than pros. Now how about you leave me the hell alone and stop making faulse accusations about me breaking the rules before i starting finding stuff wrong with u, and beleive me i could have a field day with that.

ONE MORE THING! I did not say I really, really dont want to play World of Warcraft, I've never played it, I just said it should be good because I don't like D2 which is NOT a MMORPG, its a pathetic attempt at a regular RPG.

i reccomend a book, it's called reading 101, it comes with a CD so u don't have to read it all. I'll try not to use big words in my posts anymore either.

Aethini
10-19-2003, 05:13 AM
I doubt you could use big words if you tried, you still seem to be having trouble with small ones :rolleyes:

Attempt to get the thread back on topic! :

I played EverQuest for 3 years.. seen practically everything from the early stuff to the end of the game. Have to agree with someone that posted earlier in that there are a lot of good things, as well as a lot of bad things, about EQ - on the whole, it's a pretty indescribable experience.

Beta-tested AC2, which was interesting, but I was still playing EQ and it didn't lure me away.

Many of my former guildmates from EQ are beta-testing Horizons; I'm excited to see how it compares.

Soapurb
10-19-2003, 07:18 AM
point out the small words i have trouble with please.

Istaria
10-19-2003, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by Soapurb
point out the small words i have trouble with please.

hmmmmm a small word you have trouble with?

Now let me think...............ummmm how about.......... NDA ! ! ! !
It might not be one word but it is definitely small.

I have only seen a moderator edit a post once on this forum since I've been here. It was your post that flagrantly violated the NDA.

Almost everyone that posts here has said that you were breaking the NDA. It's been pointed out to you over and over again. Then you broke it again and lashed out at the people posting here

So that means that we are all wrong and you are the only one right? I doubt very seriously that is the case.

Also, If you are going to recommend a book to some one, you might take the trouble to spell recommend correctly.

Just a thought, :rolleyes:

Elyssia001
10-19-2003, 11:11 AM
rotten apple and all that =/

Pyros
10-19-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Soapurb
U even read the NDA? Nothing I said was against it.

Giving details on the game is against the NDA. You had details in your post.

Sayal
10-19-2003, 06:02 PM
Ah, it's easier to say what I HAVEN'T played and that's Shadowbane and Dark Age of Camelot. I have no interest in PVP and DAOC has horribly dated looking graphics.

Neverwinter Nights on AOL - LONG time ago, online game variant of SSI's gold box D&D series. Fun at the time, even with hourly playtime fees.

Meridian 59 - First person online game. PVP was in full swing and it was bad when you'd be lagged in a fight with a monster and someone with a better connecion would come by and kill you. Fun, but frustrating. Griefers had a field day.

Ultima Online - GREAT game and still the yardstick I measure other games by. It got MUCH better when they split the shards into PVP and non-PVP with their UO:Second Age Expansion. I still go back and play periodically, though Age of Shadows changed the game for the worse in alot of respects. Skills based, no classes. You can literally head out with nothing but a weapon and make your way in the world. Learn fighting skills, tame animals for pets and mounts, make armor out of leather you get from animals you kill/skin, mine ore and smith weapons/armors. Etc. Etc. I of course liked being a Grandmaster Animal Tamer. Nothing like riding an nightmare and having your own pet dragon go out hunting with you. This game would be VERY competitive if they updated the graphics, but it would mean a major game overhaul. Their attempts to update it so far have fallen far short of the bar.

Asherons Call - Another skills based game. They did alot of things right and it was very soloable and fun. Monthly events/game updates kept things interesting. Macros and exploiters dealt a HUGE blow to the game overall.

Asherons Call 2 - VERY disappointing. They prettied the game up with graphics and GUTTED what everyone liked about the original game. They dumbed down the mechanics of the game and simplified it so much it became very boring after the first few levels.

Evercrack, uh Everquest - GREAT game, constant nerfing drove me NUTS. Especially when they kept making the game harder by adding timesinks in to slow down player levelling. I like to solo alot and their "vision" doesn't match that. In fact they've done everything they can to discourage solo play and force grouping. Needless to say I eventually got that they weren't going to change their philosophy and I cancelled my account.

Anarchy Online - had LOT of problems in beta and release. Funcom was slow to get their act together, but actually have a good overall game now. Doesn't discourage solo play and you can have fun both in groups and solo. Alot of people don't like the new expansion though. They've tried to copy Everquest with it and that's what alot of us LEFT EQ because of. I have the expansion, but I stay away from the new lands and stick to the old Rubi-ka I know and love. This is the game I'm currently playing. They even are savvy and offer a 7 day free trial for people to try the game. Good PR in my book!!

Star Wars Galaxies - ARGH, so much potential down the drain it just makes me sick. I was in beta, they didn't listen to the testers and released the game WAY to early. Not to mention RADICALLY changing the whole game the last 1 1/2 weeks of beta, NOT for the good. It changed so much that the strategy guide they printed was pretty much useless. I of course was still optimistic *smacks forehead against wall* and my husband and I have 2 totally useless SWG Collector's edition games and 1 strategy guide. All collecting dust as we cancelled before our 30 free days were up. Game so broke first day you couldn't login. BIG expanses of the game empty, no monsters, just scenary. Constant changes/nerfing/broke resource harvesting etc. etc. People were so unhappy that they finally made the SWG official boards closed. You have to have an active SWG subscription and be a member of their fanclub to view/post on them. All around left a bad taste in my mouth. So much so, I'm not sure I want to ever buy another Sony/Verant game. I had been looking into EQ2, but if the philosophy and customer service of those companies remain the same, I doubt they'll get any more of my gaming dollars.

All of the above games I was in beta for, except for Neverwinter Nights and Meridian 59. I also did beta for Eve-Online and Earth and Beyond though I didn't buy the final release of either of them.

Anyways, back to stalking my inbox. Have fun out there.

*Member of the Pending Club, Horizon's Chapter*

Sweetwater
10-20-2003, 12:31 AM
Sayal, be glad you left SWG when you did. I still held out hope that things would get better... I could just cry now for the lost potential it had. My husband never even opened his box to play it...so if anyone wants SWG cheap... hahahaha.

I am really hoping that the team here has been looking at what has worked and what has not worked in other games, and come up with a good blend of the best of them all in Horizons. I am sure those in beta are are putting their all into making sure the developers know what is good and what is bad, what works and what doesn't, as well as the normal bug reporting.

Balrondarklord
10-20-2003, 02:47 AM
ok lets see here

1. Ultima Online from start till Age fo Shadows, which of course was the death of UO

2. EverQuest (up till Planes of Power), they force way to much grouping only. I was off and on with this game

3. Dark Age of Camelot
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others which are most likely not MMORPG's but oh well :)

Neverwinter Nights
Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide

some others also, to lazy to type anymore :p

wedgie
10-20-2003, 03:52 AM
Hmmm, interesting to read how many dislike UO: Age of Shadows. Was considering starting it up again and seeing what was around.

Ah well. Wait for Horizons.

Anyone going to try Final Fantasy Online?

theultimate13x
10-20-2003, 06:51 AM
Ok here goes,

All are to release date. I stated where I began.

Earth and Beyond (limited open)
Sims Online (open)
Eve Online (3rd phase)
Everquest Online Adventures Frontiers (PS2)
Star Wars Galaxies (3rd phase before release)
Asheron's Call 2 (Open)
Hostile Space (Alpha Phase 1 and continuing)
Ultimate Baseball Online (limited Alpha and Beta and continuing)
Shadowbane (open)
Neocron (open)
There (3rd phase - now with lifetime account)
Second Life (near end of 3rd phase - now with lifetime account)
and others...

What I mean by 3rd phase is the one "just before" open public Betas.

Aka Explorer One

Minyun
10-22-2003, 07:00 PM
Hi all, I started a few years back with AC1, that was pretty good and got to about 64th lvl before giving it up. I graduated to AC2 and liked some of the ideas, got close to the hero stuff but I found the community within the server a bit poor and the MA and Boots rotations a bit too repetitive. Planeside followed, maybe not a MMORPG but it was pretty cool none the less, and of course most recently is Star Wars Galaxies. A game with so much potential that I had to get an American copy, it did well for a few weeks but I have lost the faith as there seems to be no real direction and it has already degraded to players standing in Theed spamming.