Mechwarrior 5 Screens

[WX_Peregrin]

It was cancelled, is cancelled, at least for now, but as posted by Tryptic, one of the FASA devs, these are screens from the art department. He wishes they would do a new mech simulation for the PC, but like he said, it's a corporation, it's his job, and sims like mechwarrior arent doing so well, save for Steel Battalion. I guess Mech is going the way of IWar. Anyways, here are the links:
http://www.mektek.net/forums/uploads/post-13-1077661171.jpg

http://www.mektek.net/forums/uploads/post-13-1077661210.jpg

They are valid, I have checked on Dropshipcommand myself. :(, a sad day for now, at least for fans of mech. Microsoft showing their liscensing spirit once again.:mad:

[Parias]

Nice.. but these aren't actual screenshots - just concept art, right?

[jessica00]

looks rendered to me. the grass looks simple enough to be the game engine.

[Red_Hex]

mechwarrior... "going the way of iwar"?

you mean, stopping being made?

that cant be right. theres always been a mechwarrior. theres a solid audience out there for it. are you sure it sells badly?

[ShaggyMoose]

I bought every Mechwarrior game from MW2 up to MW4. I stopped at Blackknight and Mercernaries, when it seemed that Micro$oft was just recycling the MW4 engine, and not adding a whole lot of new content. A new engine and some new features would have been enough to get me back on the bandwagon, but they chose to kill it instead. It seems every genre I like is either being homogenised, or laid to rest. Thank God there are still some European/Russian developers out there who still take risks (eg. Piranha Bytes, Nival, Egosoft etc.).

[WX_Peregrin]

About the screens, ive read Tryptic's post, theyre from the art department, I dont know if its concept, a simple render, or it uses an engine, but the latter is unlikely since coders werent mentioned. Im guessing its an early on render with some of the models.

But yes, tryptic said that games like mechwarrior arent selling as well, or something to that effect. Kind of like space sims, everyone forgets there's a crowd of people waiting for a good one, if they only made that good one, then it'd be popular again. *Sigh* so the only incarnation of BT anymore is MA, which, just doesnt fill my need for fast action and sim-like elements. And I dont have money for SB either *sigh* :(.

[Parias]

Originally posted by ShaggyMoose
Thank God there are still some European/Russian developers out there who still take risks (eg. Piranha Bytes, Nival, Egosoft etc.).

Don't forget Nudemaker (http://sbc.pippin.us/Reviews/parias-review-loc.asp) :)

[The corporate]

I want Heavy Gear 3.

[lostpilot]

Hey Shaggymoose, you might want to consider buying MW4:Mercs. The user community has been active with some great addons. And you cant beat the price.

Check here:
http://www.newbattlefields.com/

[Red_Hex]

i got mw4mercs, hadnt had one since mech3.

it was ok, particularly the multi-path story, but i hate the arcadey style of it compared to mech3, and the graphics almost looked cartoon-like, very vivid and not gritty or realistic.

its stupid to say, but i prefer a realistic style to my sci-fi futuristic fighting robot games.

[MarauderD]

I've ranted about the Mechwarriors before. I loved them dearly, but what microsoft has done with it has killed it for me. As far as I'm concerned, Mechwarrior's dead.

[YodaSean]

Originally posted by Red_Hex
mechwarrior... "going the way of iwar"?

you mean, stopping being made?

that cant be right. theres always been a mechwarrior. theres a solid audience out there for it. are you sure it sells badly?

Its seems to sell pretty well on Xbox. I'm not really sure if I'd still call it mechwarrior though :sour: Its more of a third person shooter sort of thing

[bentmick]

Have publishers forgotten that many gamers are mature and like technical and strategic games? Nearly all sequels of games we have loved for their sim-like play style are being dumbed down for the new gamers. Funny, I thought kids these days were more advanced than we were at a young age.

Sick of mindless blast fests? Well most, but not all I suppose.

Back on topic - MW3 kicks MW4's butt.

[WX_Peregrin]

I cant agree with that, b/c even mechwarrior 3 wasnt a GREAT game, mech2 was the best of the series, especially mech2mercs. mechwarriror 4 was a good game though, at least better than 3, and considering when i first played 2 i just found out about 4, and bought it right after I picked up mech2... 4 is a lot closer to two than 3 is. 3 didnt have night vision or heat vision and there were underground missions, that got me thinking :weird:

basically my beef is that the devs for mech3 didnt know how to handle battletech. mech4mercs is ten times better than mech3 was, while it may seem more 'arcady', and mech3 was a better sim (ll give it that much), gamewise mech3 was lacking in some aspects.

My favorite will always be mechwarrior 2 mercenaries though. If mech5 went back to mech2 for its roots, as far as sim quality(and mission ideas), id buy it in one second. I am a fan through and through though, Ill buy any game titled mechwarrior, as long as
A) it doesnt suck so bad it makes me hate MS and FASA, or
B)It isnt like mechassault.

[Red_Hex]

4 is a lot closer to 2 than 3. thats not a good thing. games are meant to grow in complexity and depth as time passes, not stay the same or go backwards. flightsim 2010 would not be hailed as the finest iteration of flightsim if it had the same quality of simulation as... whatever the first flightsim was.

mech2 is old. that doesnt make it the original and best, it makes it the original and most simple.

[Cyberdactyl]

I want a Battlezone 3 modeled after BZ2 NOT BZ3.

[eon5]

/OT

excuse me ?

Battlezone3 !?!?!

Where i cand find info about this Batllezone sequel ? :eek:

[sauron1]

Originally posted by Parias
Don't forget Nudemaker (http://sbc.pippin.us/Reviews/parias-review-loc.asp) :)

Nice preview :)

On another note, from looking at the controller setup screenies in that article, I'd like to nominate Parias for the "tallest full-tower PC case on the planet" award (six drive bay category). But hey, you need a bigger monitor for that thing! :p

[Rurouni Storm]

Bah, Parias' is nothing. I've actually got an old server tower with 12.

The darn thing's designed to sit on the floor and is the height of the desk. Now, I need to get some server hardware off Ebay to commence project Helios.

[WX_Peregrin]

True, older does not necessarily mean better, but Im looking more into mission design/ game tech(like the mechlab in mech2), and also storylines. When missions are harder in mech2 than in 3 or 4, mainly because you have to use strategy, thats not saying much for the 'newer' game, no matter how advanced the graphics are. Not to mention Mech2Mercs took place over 20 or more planets, while Mech3 and Mech4Vengeance only took place in one planet (if you dont count the short lunar campaign from Vengeance).

I judge games by content/storyline/mood before I judge graphics. If I judged by looks first, I would've bought Unreal 2 instead of IW2. It was the depth of story/universe I was looking for, and of course decent graphics and good simlike qualities dont hurt. I guess its because I like to roleplay, so story comes first, but I do have my action loving side (UT2k4 r0x0rz :D ).

[Belter_john]

MechWarrior isn't dead. MW4 had very good sales and is an easy simulation to master. Some don't like the generally faster pace, but it is very competitive online. Light mechs are fast enough to be hard to hit and assaults are fast enough to miss every once in a while in a game where you hit where you aim, unlike MW3 where you never knew where to shoot at all (which I also liked).

Anyway, MechWarrior 4 is alive and well with new Mech-Paks and Maps being made by the MW community and is only slightly diminished in online activity 3 plus years after it's release. MW4 Mercs probably has more content than any other MechWarrior game and it continues to grow. If you've never played it now's your chance to pick up a classic at a bargain.

What is killing the production of MW5 and perhaps other simulations is the XBox. Simulations do not run well with XBox's Gamepad controller and are a little too advanced for most XBox users. If they did make a PC Port of Mech Assault, the gameplay would have to be completely re-engineered. Mech Assault is neither a sim or an action game, just a very well done arcade MechWarrior.

And it isn't because of MW4 sales. Microsoft is purposely diminishing games on the PC to tailor them to XBox's needs. (733 MHz Processor and Nvidia chip.) Freelancer, Halo, Deus Ex2, all optimzed for the XBox hardware and audience. And in the case of KotOR it was reported that MS paid LucasArts to delay the PC release of KotOR by 4 months to boost XBox sales. Can you say Evil Empire? Giving In to the Dark Side?

Face it folks Microsoft no longer supports PC games. It supports XBox games, it's 2.3 Billion Dollar Baby. So yes it is economics in a way. Just don't tell me that MW4 didn't sell well or that MW5 wouldn't. Microsoft should keep in mind that PC Gaming is one of the mainstay's of it's Windows OS's popularity among home users. You can say, gamers are not a majority of Windows users, but we are the tech-users and upgraders and funders of inovations for the home PC. That could change soon.

-Belter

[Rurouni Storm]

Originally posted by Belter_john
And it isn't because of MW4 sales. Microsoft is purposely diminishing games on the PC to tailor them to XBox's needs. (733 MHz Processor and Nvidia chip.) Freelancer, Halo, Deus Ex2, all optimzed for the XBox hardware and audience. And in the case of KotOR it was reported that MS paid LucasArts to delay the PC release of KotOR by 4 months to boost XBox sales. Can you say Evil Empire? Giving In to the Dark Side?

Well, Sony did the same thing with Rockstar Games and the GTA series.

And Freelancer was never intended to be an X-Box title, dumbed down as it may be. The reason the requirements were fairly low is that it was in development for at least 6 years.

[Parias]

Originally posted by Belter_john
What is killing the production of MW5 and perhaps other simulations is the XBox. Simulations do not run well with XBox's Gamepad controller and are a little too advanced for most XBox users. If they did make a PC Port of Mech Assault, the gameplay would have to be completely re-engineered. Mech Assault is neither a sim or an action game, just a very well done arcade MechWarrior.

Steel Battalion, Steel Battalion, Steel Battalion.

[Red_Hex]

played mech assault on xbox. its pretty different from normal mechwarrior, more akin to any other third person shooter, but it was fun to play. i resent the removal of "warrior" from its titling. they did that obviously because they wanted to avoid people dismissing it as a mechwarrior game... the people whod do so being your average xbox gamer, and never having played mechwarrior before. lame.

[Belter_john]

Originally posted by Parias
Steel Battalion, Steel Battalion, Steel Battalion.


Yeah! You know, Steel Battalion would probably have much BETTER SALES as a PC Game. It would certainly look better, play better, and possibly have more options, including allowing players to configure their Joystick and Speedpads as controllers. The $150.00 controller that comes with it for XBox's version looks impressive, but hurts sales of the game immensely.

So, when do we get the PC port?

-Belter

[arrrse]

There's a fair chance that I'd buy Steel Battalion if it was a PC game.

[MarauderD]

I have to second *****'s view.

Also, I'd like to add that after I waited for Halo to arrive at the PC and tried it, I'm never buying an MS game again.

And despite the fact that I love BattleTech and Mechwarrior, I stopped at 4. That just wasn't the game anymore, it was pathetic.

[StormHammer01]

I second Parias' comment.

STEEL. BATTALION.

I gave in to the hype (mostly his) and got it...

AWESOME.

Now, if I could just FIND the xbox live expansion for it...

[AR81]

I have the Activision and the Microprose games.

Activision gameplay and missions are more interesting. With MW3 and MW4 I feel like piloting a darn tower with caterpillars instead of a mech.

MW3 expansion is tough and frustrating.

[Zodiac MMLIX]

MW5 should have the graphics of MW3 and all the weps mechs and everything else from EVERYTHING in the MW series (yes, that includes all the upgrades to MW4:mercs and everything):) Also, I'd like to add: if I didn't love my XBox more than life itself (not as much as my PC or cats but still) then I'd just start a bonfire with it.

[hoom]

The Mist Is High In This Night
Can Fell The Presence Of Death
Way To The Mortuary So The Dead's Will Invoke
Corpses And Skulls In My Countour
See A Corpse Bloody With The Face In Cruciform
How Being From The Wrath
Catch The Skull Of A Children, Frozen And Dismal
Coming To Me
Creature , Kill In Name Of Hell
The Black Mass Is Started, Life's Will Terminate
With The Wrath Of Demons Started The Genocide
Wrath, In My Corpus Is Born
Death, Lost Legions From Hell
Slaughter, You'll See In Sacrifice
Skull's Are Christen's With Blood

Necromancer
Dead's Invoker
Necromancer
Dead's Invoker

Wrath, Odius Desire
In My Corpus Is Born
The Fates Last, Terror's Spread
For A Necros Creature Of
The Crypts'

Funny though, those screens look dated now, they'd have to upgrade the art to release now...
Edit: Hope I have the text size for that as small as possible, hard to tell with the forum software using a font resizing script, having firefox set with a minimum font size & all :shrug:

[Parias]

In echoing the above statement: Holy thread necromancy, batman!

[Red_Hex]

propitiously, this thread hauled itself from the grave in time to contemplate the new mechwarrior game on the ds. i have as hard a time twisting my head around it as anyone else, but i've seen the screens (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/mpw/ds-mechassault-screens-182930.php), its coming. difficult to digest as that is.