Driver 4 Wish List!!!

[matt__jon]

Time to get to work again. Driver 4 is likely in the works, hopefully Atari will give it the needed time to get it right. But until then, we need to post our ideas, Reflections please read this! The way things have been going, you'll need the support of the fans next time around. Just thank us in the credits if you use the ideas, please!

ALL ideas will be put in this thread.

[The Obvious Stuff]
**Real time car damage a la XNA video(if anything do this)
*Destructible environments, grenade launchers that leave craters or blow down buildings. Driver series should be the complete destruction version of GTA.
*More enterable interiors
*More interactive enviroment, Tanner should be able to pick up anything laying around, even old car parts, and throw them or hit people with them. Physics on everything a la Half Life 2.
*Hand to hand combat system, even a basic kick/punch would be enough.
*Bullets can go through certain walls a la Counter Strike
*More weapons and more variety of weapons. Hello sniper rifle!
*More variety and quantity of vehicles (anything that can cause destruction, aka military aircraft)
*Upgrades for cars, you unlock the upgrades by completing missions, but they are free after that (because of car damage)
*Rag doll physics for people

[Film Director]
*Ablility to edit (that is remove scenes) with director mode.
*Custom chase camera where you can set a fixed view outside of the car (such as a side view) and let the camera follow the car (from an unmounted position)
*Unlimited camera placements
*A REWIND BUTTON! that lets you rewind a few scenes at a time or the ability to switch back and forth between camera scenes.
*Add a props mode to place your own props/actors/cars and control them for more directing options.
*Ability to add titles and/or captions to films
*Ability to also fade out when a movie is done.

[ICD2k3]

* fix glitches before you release it (the most important request)

[Evenios]

-ablility to edit (that is remove scenes ) with director mode.

custom chase camera where you can set a fixed view outside of the car (such as a side view) and let the camera follow the car (from an unmounted position)

unlimited camera placements

a REWIND BUTTION! that lets you rewind a few scenes at a time or the ability to switch back and forth between camera scenes.

add a props mode to place your own props/actors /cars and controll them for more directing options.

ability to add titles and /or captions to films

(perhaps only titles)

ability to also fade out when a movie is done.

[phaota]

Well, here's my list of things that should have been fixed and added for the game which I hope will be in the fourth installment. Please DO NOT FLAME ME for this listing as others did in my "Problems" thread. These are all just items that are missing or stand out while playing and would have been nice to have available to make the game a hundred times better. And yes, I know perfectly well this is not GTA: Vice City, but it shares too many similarities to not compare it since VC is still superior to DRIV3R so far in many fun ways. Some are nit-picky, but they are still noteworthy.

Vehicular Damage Problems:
* Some vehicles that have four side windows, like taxis, only allow driver and passenger windows to break, not the rear ones. Even if you walk up, point your weapon point blank at the glass and fire, the window will not shatter. This error even occurs on some four window vehicles that do allow all the glass to shatter. Example,
one car had been totally damaged so that nothing else could be wrecked. Except, the passenger side door and window continued to be indestructible, not even showing bullet holes.
* A vehicle can take way too much damage to the engine before it actually begins to smoke and catch fire. For example, the player can shooting tons of bullets into a semi’s large exterior gas tank and nothing happens. Instead, the engine will start to smoke after a certain amount of time, then catch fire before the truck explodes.
Realistically, after less than a dozen shots, the semi’s gas tank should have went up in a ball of fire, wrecking most of the vehicle in the process. Why does this not occur?
* Shooting a vehicle’s radiator does not cause it to spew steam in a realistic manner.
* After a vehicle explodes, it breaks apart into many assorted pieces. This is unrealistic. Unless the vehicle has a load of explosives inside, it should only go up in a fireball, burning up the insides and throwing assorted debris everywhere. Also, the pieces after an explosion are not smoking or have bits on fire.
* Squealing around corners or stopping your vehicle quickly does not cause burnt rubber marks on streets and solid ground. If GTA: Vice City could accomplish this task, why not Driv3r?
* In a car crash, if the vehicle lands on the driver side, Tanner crawls out from UNDER the driver’s side instead of realistically climbing out of the passenger side door or window. What is he, a cockroach? Able to flatten himself under the smallest of gaps?
* If an open-roofed vehicle crashes and flips or spins, Tanner stays perfectly seated inside it throughout the stunt. Realistically, he should have been thrown out of the vehicle during the aerial theatrics.
* A vehicle’s framework does not dent, bend or crush even in the most devastating of crashes.

Environmental Damage Problems:
* Crashing into a light pole does not dent or drop it.
* Hitting a tree does not damage the trunk or drop leaves and branches.
* Bashing a fire hydrant DOES NOT CAUSE A GEYSER OF WATER TO TEMPORARILY SHOOT UP!! WHY?
* No damage is sustained to an unbreakable fence or gate when a vehicle hits it.
* Any light fixture that is visible should be breakable. For example, light poles. You can not shoot just the light.
* Gas tanks, both cylinders and large stationary tanks behind buildings, will not explode when shot. Why?
* Large trash cans full of garbage bags do not spill their contents when overturned.
* Smashing into a store front window or glass door does not shatter it, even if the effect disappears once you leave the area.

Miami Problems:
* Why go to the trouble of creating two huge ocean liners at the International Ferry Port and not allow players to walk around the exterior of them via the connecting covered walkway?
* What is the point of having a working monorail in Miami if the player can not ride it?
* Why not allow a player to visit the top of the two High-Rise Condominiums in Miami’s South Beach?
* Why have tons of well-known historical landmarks in the cities and not create detailed interiors for gamers to visit? Since the game is essentially a virtual vacation to Miami, Nice and Istanbul, for those people that have never and will never get to experience these worldly locations, being able to literally go into the landmarks,
even on a limited level, would be grand. For example, it would be a waste of time to digitally create the entire inside of the Biltmore Hotel in Miami, but the main lobby would have been fine. This idea goes for all the hotels, city halls and churches.
* The bridges along North Beach's canal are too low, not allowing speed boats to pass under them.

Nice Problems:
* Why isn’t there a working elevator in the airport tower? Realistically, personnel wouldn’t have to climb a long ladder to reach the top.
* Where are the aircraft at the Aeroport de Nice-Cote d’Azur? There are no large airliners or small planes anywhere. That’s impossible for an airport.
* There are too many locations where you can jump into with you vehicle and not get out of because you are in a graphical null zone where textures do not connect properly and exits, even on foot, are non-existent. So you have to restart a lot.

Miscellaneous Problems:
* Why can’t Tanner climb up on objects? If he can go up ladders, he should just as easily pull himself up on an object.
* Why can’t Tanner can not drive and shoot at the same time like in GTA: Vice City.
* Boats are way too slow, unlike the speedy and fun rides found in GTA: Vice City.
* Why isn’t there any planes or assorted helicopters available to fly in the cities like in GTA: Vice City? With such hugely detailed maps, being able to look down on the fantastic cities from the air would be a plus, not a minus.
* How come there isn’t any sea life in the waters around Miami & Nice? If GTA: Vice City could do it, Driv3r should have plenty to see.
* Pedestrians and drivers do not randomly say funny remarks to you or other people like in GTA: Vice City.
* Drivers do not fight back if you pull them out of their vehicles. In GTA: Vice City, a driver (and some pedestrians) would literally yank the player back out of the car and take off in the vehicle.
* There should be cops walking the streets and occasionally chasing people.
* The player should be able to fight with anyone he/she comes across while walking in the cities.
* Tanner should jump or climb into boats from docks or while swimming instead of just teleporting behind the steering wheel.
* Tanner’s character has absolutely no personality when he is left alone on the screen. He just stands perfectly straight and never says anything. Whereas Tommy Vercetti from GTA: VC stretches his legs, checks his weapons, says smart remarks, etc. This gives him an interesting personality.
* All vehicles drive at the same speed, no matter what type they are. The only exceptions are trucks, because they are always slow and police cars, which outrun anything on the road.

[matt__jon]

Sorry about flaming you last time, I get carried away sometimes.

*Driveable trains that can derail if you go around a corner too fast and catch fire or cause damage.
*Damage on boats, bullet holes in the bottom cause water to spurt up
*Ability to enter vehicles but not drive them, ex. buses, enter an open door and walk around inside, sit in a seat.
*Get in the seat behind the driver in any vehicle that has that seat, and press the weapon button and the driver will drive whichever way you tell them, if you don't give any commands they drive around randomly and you can shoot from the vehicle at any time (beats riding pickups in GTA)
Buttons for hostage drivers (for PS2 cause thats what I have)
&nbsp&nbspX- Tanner says "Speed up!"
&nbsp&nbspO- "Loose the tail!"
&nbsp&nbsp<- - "Take a left"
&nbsp&nbsp-> - "Take a right"
&nbsp&nbsp[] - "Stop!"
&nbsp&nbspTriangle - "Get out!"
&nbsp&nbsp^These are all Tanner talking to the driver.
*Larger range of view, can't look down or up far enough.
*Bigger jump, and a cheat code for a super jump.
*Ability to climb through windows, over low enough (Highest is where Tanner can reach all the way up and grab the ledge) barriers, climb trees, cliffs, pull himself onto docks or boats.
*Sit on benches but still shoot
*Shoot while swimming
*Swim underwater (you can unlock scuba gear in take a ride somehow and a cheat for infinite air)
*If you stop swimming and float your health should remain where it is.
*Recover health slowely over time.
*Create a player
*Create a vehicle (yes, from scratch, either using attributes from other cars a la Supercar Street Challenge or a 3D modeling program from scratch, well, both put together would be nice, make it easy to use)
*Create/Edit a city (I know some of these will be hard to do, but theres more games after Driver 4 you know, most of these probably won't make it)
*Ability to put all last 3 creations on internet for other users
*All things your are able to do in undercover should be available at least in Take a Ride and maybe even the driving games, ex. drive by's, loading semi trucks, C4
*People inside buildings
*Cars don't explode unless you use an explosive on them
*Cars catch fire when engine is damaged enough, and the fire spreads through the car like The Getaway, only slower.
*Cars burn up in fires or explosions
*Sniper rifle
*Ability to crawl (can lay under cars)
*An option for vehicle damage, where the car would die more realistically, such as after one head on collision, so this can be turned off for people who don't like changing cars every few seconds.
*Can't tell if this is already in D3, but only when a car is damaged in an area necesary for the car to run, should it show up on the damage meter, for instance, a hit to the trunk (unless it bends the axle) will not effect the car, however the engine is more crucial, so being hit in the engine would cause damage to the vehicle.
*People that drive away fast instead of get out of their can and run when they see or hear a weapon. How stupid would you have to be to get out of a steel shell when you hear a weapon outside?
*Better auto-aim that locks on as soon as you press the fire weapon button, but lets you look around if you want to.
*Better AI.

ALSO TRY NOT TO REPEAT ANYTHING, EVERYONE

[Phazon77]

Take out all of the on foot bull crap, exept getting out of your vehicle and getting into another one. This game is called DRIVER not GTA.

[Future]

I actually liked the on-foot. I like destroying cars with my grenade launcher.

[Vasquez]

what i want is everything that's in this game and a bag of chips. LOL.

[matt__jon]

Yeah, the on foot is good, it can stay. If you don't like shooting or anything, don't use your guns, just steal cars.

[Capone]

I loved the shooting in this game, so much better than GTA because it requires skill, and you can run with any weapon, the missions that revolved around shooting were great, but I think there should of been a little more driving in the game.

[phaota]

Apology excepted, Matt_Jon. Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll add them to my list to see if they are resolved when the fourth installment of the series is ever released. I'll take the bag of chips too. :-D

[Jash]

everything in a car should be modelled seperate. if this is emailed to reflections...

WE DONT CARE HOW LONG IT TAKES

bendable frames, when a car lands on another, i hate how it just drops the car and opens a few doors.

GOOD RIMS not textures. lol

what else...

most of what i had in mind has been answered...


MORE TRAILERS FOR 18 WHEELERS! not just cargo, but a car trailer! and be able to load cars in TAR!

ill edit as appropriate.

[matt__jon]

Ah yes, the trailers!

I got a few ideas for different semi trailers:
*Box one as seen in D3
*Empty trailer, flatbed
*Trailer full of logs that can all fall off
*Trailer with big round cement tube that can roll off and crush cars
*Tanker trailer with propane gas in it, shoot it and KABOOM! Also the cops will hang back if you drive that one, and they won't shoot at you.
*Car carrying trailer made of metal framework (you can see what cars are parked in it)

*Sports, for instance at the football stadium, there could be some guys playing football, and if you want to play walk up and press the action button, and you're in the game. Same goes for any sport. Or like the golf course in VC, you should be able to go in the little shop at the beginning, get a bag of clubs, and play a round if you want to.

[Driv3r_fool]

how about some boat traffic maybe?

[matt__jon]

*Dual Weapons

[Driv3r Punk]

*Ability to choose a character built into the game (eg. Jericho, Jones, etc.) or create a character to play as in Take a Ride.
*Helicopters and Airplaines. Maybe some blimps and hot air balloons, too.
*More weapons other than guns. (eg. grenades, bombs, etc.)
*Choose background music for a movie made in Film Director.

Put all those together and you could have one sweet movie! Just immagine escaping from the cops just barely on a hot-air balloon, then as a police helicopter comes at you, you set a bomb on the balloon, jump out, and land safely in the water below, while the cops think you're dead from that huge explosion.

[Classic_Muscle]

How about we get another company to create Driver 4? A smart one that releases a finished game!:sulk: I wasted so much time being excited about a game that couldn't be finished within 3 or more years.

[slickkill77]

1. you should be able to swim under the docks.
2. when your swimming you chould be able to climb on docks.
3. at the airports you should be able to get into a plane and the plane will fly you to another city in the game.
4. you should be able to get on top of buildings, so more ladders, and when your on the monorail with a car and you jump on the building you shouldnt fall throungh the building.
5. you should be able to name replays.
6. more cars. b/c in miami there are no ricers. and miami is a big place to street racein.
7.you should be able to do things like street race or drag. and the cars should have a better sense of speed like the bikes do
8. they have all the voice acting so why doesnt tanner say more.
9. there should be some kinda of radio they had good music but it was in the cut scenes.
10. the ramps should be easier to jup off. they should be bigger pieces of wood, and if you hit oune and crash the board should break.
11. The cops should be more aggresive and chase you with more people.
12. they shouldnt be so easy to lose. 13. the cops should use helicopters to track you like in gta only you get chased like on cops.
14. because in gta they helicopters would just sit there and shot at you.
15. cops should also have motorcycles.16. if they do a city where you can surf you should be able to just for fun.it doesnt have to be perfect.
17. they should make the take a ride mode multiplayer on live or split screen. there are so many cool things you could do online with like 4 to 8 people.
18. if tanner gets in a big chrash he should take body damage or if he gets shot. so he'll run slower if he gets hit in the leg or it will be harder to shoot if hes hit in the arm...
19. cops should have boats.
20. you should be able to disguise your self.
21. more kinds of boats, jetskis ocean liners oh big distruction in those.
22. more motorcycles, dirt bikes...
23. they should make a new mode where you can set up a movie scene. so you can do things like make timed explosisions and other things crash.
24. you should be able to rate replays most of the replays suck so that would help know which ones are good.
25. you should be able to do more things in your house, cook shower sleep, parks things in your garage.
26. you should be able to make money to buy bigger and better houses, or steal money, bank robery.
27. you should pick from tanner or some other woman in take a ride.
28. do more things to make fun of gta.
29. there should be upgrades for your car like better rims and stuff. so you can go to some upgrade shop for your car thats in your garage and the car will always be like that.
30. you should be able to pick where you have your houses that you buy, house boat trailer park.
31. people should react according to who they are if you steal a car from them. like biker tries to kill you, old people just run...
32. they should make tanner say things about gta like when he falls in the water he should say good thing im not in gta3 id be dead by now.or true crime even though i liked that game.
33.things should work according to size like a wee puddle shouldnt stop your car or a small tree should fall when you hit it.
34. when it rains the streets should have puddles if they dont i dont remember.

[DeViL Cr0c0diLe]

- In-car view where you can actually see the steering wheel and dashboard, like in 007 Nightfire (Xbox)

- A speedometer you can turn on and off and can be used any time. Not one of those crappy ones like in the car bomb mission, it should actually look like a speedometer with the little needle.

- More cars

- More weapons
o Sniper rifle
o Rocket launcher
o Fully automatic pistol, like the Glock 18
o Another shotgun, make the Spas 12 (the shotgun that is already in Driv3r) fire faster but do less damage and add another shotgun, a pump action shotgun that does alot more damage.
o Change the unsilenced beretta into a .357 revolver that does more damage than your starting pistol.
o Gattling gun (lots of games have it, don't say that I'm just copying VC). Makes you move very slow but tears cars apart.
o Unlockable Dual M60s, rambo style!
o Grenade launcher should explode on impact with cars.

- More things to do in the cities
o Car repair shops
o Places you can go to have the color of your car changed (you could actually pick which color you wanted, there would be three bars, red blue and green, you could move the sliders up or down and pick any color you wanted)
o Stores where you can buy different clothes, like different shirts and pants.

- More cool places to visit
o More malls
o Some restaruants where you can buy food and get some health back

- More people inside buildings

- If the next game is going to get a Mature rating add some blood.

- If Timmys are in the next game they should be given Tec-9's that fire extremely slow and do almost no damage to make fun of the crappy Tec-9s in VC.

[_knowitall_]

i donno why i want this in d4 but it would be pretty funny....mabye one of the weapoons could be a wrench but when u go up to a car, one part will light up and u could cycle through wut part and then eithr repair it or u could loosen it...mabye unlock that weap in a sabatoge mission....it would be cool to go u p to someones car at a red light and loosen there wheels so when they drive off they start to jiggle and fall off/ leading into a big traffic jam upahead/ but that might be to far off for a driving game but it would give a feeling of freedom if u could interact with more things

[slickkill77]

two more things to add to my list. 35. cops should have tear gas. 36. cops should be like in driver 2 and 1 where they would chase you more rather then get out and shoot. they should chase you with more people and cars and there road blocks should fill the road. oh yea if you criminal things goes all the way up the swat should come.and if you r in an area and the cops are surrounding you they should put snipers on the roof

[_knowitall_]

nice! snipers would be awsome! but then...u should also be givin a sniper rifle in d4! a new weapon that i totaly forgot bout! yey!:bulb:

[Capone]

dont mind slickkill77, hes never played driver 1 and 2 and hes making things up that should of been in them.

[_knowitall_]

wut u talkin bout that he never played d1 and d2...who cares this is d4 were talkin bout...:cry: god there is a stupid fruit fly buzzin round my head and im not eating any fruit right now!! GODD!!! :mad: ...:rolleyes: sry

[Capone]

read his post and you will know they he has never played driver 1 or 2, cops didnt get out of their cars and nobody had guns. Maybe hes thinking of GTA3 and Vice City

[hplabonte]

cops should be like in driver 2 and 1 where they would chase you more then get out and shoot.

whatyoutalkinbout?

[Capone]

exactly

[mrfajita12345]

i wish you could drive every car from each city in one city after you beat the game. like drive istanbul cars in miami and vice versa. really wish i could drive that istanbul scooter in nice. I LOVE THAT THING!!!:D sorry if this is a repeat but im too lazy to read all these long replies:p

[Lilkozak911]

The Havok Physics Syetem. It was used in Max Payne 2 and gonna be used in Half-Life 2. Awesome fun stuff.

[slickkill77]

hey capone two things first i have played the first two drivers and second i didnt mean the cops got out and shot at you i ment that when you stopped they would get out and try to arrest you . happy
how can you say ive never played it u dont know me

ok wait i just read my post i didnt say they get out and shoot i said they should chase you more like in driver 1 & 2 not get out and shoot as much like in driver 3

you guys miss read my post i said the cops should chase you more like in d 1 & 2 instead of stopping to get out and shoot like they do in driver 3. sry

[matt__jon]

Hey, someone brought the original D4 what we want thread back! I should post something but I don't feel like it.

[Spyder]

also

*The Good Looking Cars More Rare

there are nice cars everywhere and around every corner i think they should make the cool cars more rare

[CrispySpider]

Slickkill77- First off in Miami Where do you see newer body style vehicles? :weird: Most of the cars are from the late 70's to the mid 80's.:p

Read your post again slowly.:sour:

[vulkayn]

Originally posted by Evenios

add a props mode to place your own props/actors /cars and controll them for more directing options.

that would rock!

[HotdogAT00]

Hey I thought mine was about vehicles weapons tis should be about gameplay only.:cry:

[slickkill77]

what did i say about newer body style cars.
i said they should put those in the game

[_knowitall_]

Originally posted by HotdogAT00
Hey I thought mine was about vehicles weapons tis should be about gameplay only.:cry: hotdog we already covered gamplay way back so shutup...ya actors and junk would be awsome, u would select from a group of people and would get to place them where u want,and then position where they will move next,like u would put a little circle or something on the ground by pressing a button,and then thats where they would walk to,and the same with cars,also u can control the speed of the car or have an option to make the car chase u or somethin,also u can choose wich actors will carry guns,....and not sure if anyone mentioned but they need multiplayer and online multiplayer,and better aiming....

[matt__jon]

On Driver 4, if theres a money system, and Tanner is back on the force again (from where I got to in the game so far, *spoilers*

... in the first few missions of Istanbul, Tanner seems to have left the force and is wanted by Calita and the cops...)

Tanner should get paid a salary, whatever a cops salary would be, or whatever Reflections decides to pay him since its just a game, and depending on what type of progress you make in the game, you can get raises or get demoted or even fired.

For instance: If you are effective at completing missions, you will get promoted and get better salary, and better missions getting deeper undercover everytime, eventually taking down big name criminals like Jericho, and even after the main story mode, random mob bosses, etc, you can even become police chief (you're only police chief in whichever city you earn it in, but you can become chief in all cities, and even when you aren't, in TAR when you go to other cities, the cops will know you're the chief of Miami PD, etc, and will treat you well, and you will be near the top of that cities police hierarchy)

As police chief, you can call in road blocks, when you do, it would stop the game, bring up the map, and you could pick the place where you want the roadblock, and since this is just a game (and not reality), the roadblock would magically appear wherever you placed it, since in reality, you'd have to call it in and everyone would have to drive out there, and who knows where the suspect is going 5 minutes down the line, of course, you could place the roadblock accross the city, and it would remain there until the suspect is apprehended or until you call it off.

As police chief, you may also call in back-up, SWAT, snipers on the roof-tops, block of certain areas suspects are known to be in (or just block off areas for the fun of it, you can also surround buildings).

The game would randomly generate small crimes you could go to or assign other cops to (or might as well just have other cops automatically go to them), the area of the crime would show up on the map, and this is when you could send someone else, tell people to ignore it (would cause people to become weary of cops, doing this enough will cause riots, first riots are small, if the problem goes on long enough, riots get bigger, cause more damage, part it is deducted from your salary), or go to it yourself. Remember though, you may be impeached from police chief status from causing riots.

Similarly, if you cause enough damage on missions (car accidents, civilian deaths, collateral damage) you will be let go and possibly jailed, also fined money for death/damage. You can also quit the force at any time. If you are jailed you can pay bail if you have enough money, or try to escape, call a friend on the phone to organize a jail break. You can go deeper into the criminal world if you follow that path, and get jobs from your gang leader, and work your way up to becoming head honcho if you do everything right, even kill your own bosses, but beware, your gang could turn on you if you do that. Cause gang wars, bribe police, politicians.

Also there should be other career choices in TAR that you can work your way up or down the ladder.

Another suggestion I have is make Tanner automatically get out of vehicles on the side opposite of the most danger, I've been killed many times becomes Tanner for some reason gets out of the passenger side where the cops are waiting with shotguns.

[driv3rperson]

yuo know matt-jon im so tired of people always copying other people like me i started a thread to see what people want in d4 and how to improve i wanted it because i wanted something original but then everyone has to just mak e one mostly exactly like mine

[xtsubarublazin]

Driv3rperson... you're stupid. This thread was started weeks before you even joined the forum. You have to look at the starting date of the thread, before you accuse someone of copying you. :rolleyes:


I don't mean to flame you in any way, but look before you post.

[matt__jon]

Thank you XT. D3person, stop being a ****ing retard all the time.

[mrfajita12345]

blinkers multiplayer not nessacaily xbox live but two player ect some traffic has p[assengers

[Athorne]

The hostage driving sounds cool.

[Kulu911]

I want it to have everything that the driver series, gta series, and the getaway has. Just combine everything. The graphics and physics of driver 3. The interactiveness of gta (except for having to eat, thats so stupid) . And the on foot action of the getaway. Being able to call for backup is a cool idea, and since Tanner is a cop he should be able to arrest people like in the Getaway. There should also be air vehicles (the physics for plane would be so cool; the wings should be able to rip off if you crash them on the sides of the buildings.

But the sad part is; if driver 4 is like this, then it wouldnt really be driver anymore right?....but who cares!!

[Athorne]

Originally posted by Kulu911
(except for having to eat, thats so stupid)

I don't think that is stupid I wouldn't mind having to buy gas either.

[matt__jon]

I agree with Kulu911, who cares if its not the same as Driver 1. If you want to play a game thats the same as Driver 1, play Driver 1, and stop suggesting that they make Driver 4 feel like a game thats already 5 years old now, who knows how old it'll be IF Driver 4 ever comes out.

[Sedans_is_back]

Here's what I want:

* Blinkers!
* The abillity to Ride in cars (Besides driving them.)
* I do like the Hostage Idea
* More cities!
* More, MORE Vehicles
* The abillty to play stuff like billiards/pool.
* A.I. has parties that you can go and crash.
* Food, as mentioned somewhere above.
* Pick up Items, Ex: Bricks, Bumpers, Wheels, cylinders. (Like oxygen cyilenders if you know what I mean.)
* More ways to crush cars.
* More realistic damage.
* Take Pictures.
* Climb walls
* Film Director Improved
* Drink from Soda Machines
* Another BMW! (I want one 'cause I own one)
* Create a car!


Sorry if I repeated a few.

[Head-Hunter-01]

Yeah in my opinion, I think we should give atari ideas for D4 until the D4 forums come out in quite a while. Remember no one knows if D4 is going to come out or not.

[matt__jon]

I'm pretty sure I heard they were gonna keep making Driver games. Heck, #3 actually did good sales-wise. Its #10 on the 2004 charts either for all games or just in the UK, I forget where I saw it.

[edit] it was in the UK.

[-XT-]

I hope they learned their hard lesson about rushing games.

[Head-Hunter-01]

Ha ha, yea I am pretty sure they did.

[Anonymous]

HOLD ON !!!!!
I like all of the ideas that have been posted so far but almost everything that has been said has already been in GTA. If atari and reflections were to realese a game like that they would get a lot of people would start complaining that the game is too much like gta and that they couldn't come up with thier own ideas.

[matt__jon]

A lot of people think/thought Driv3r was copying GTA, we're used to hearing people complaining about it. Personally I don't see whats so bad, they both present gameplay with different viewpoints on how it should be.

Besides, you don't hear anyone going around saying that Half Life 2 is a clone of Halo 2, which is a clone of Doom 3, clone of Timesplitters 2, Medal of Honor, FEAR, Mercenaries, etc, etc...

I don't see why people complain about clones, it encourages competition and better products.

[defcon215]

driver 3 was cool naw mean if they make driver 4 the way im thinkin their gonna make it then mannn watch out

[matt__jon]

I don't know, they didn't make Driv3r the way I thought it would be, I no longer have high expectations for the series. Its been turned from something great into an average game.

[evilskater753]

Just simply have the game almost be like "The Getaway : Black Monday"

If any of you have played it.

[mark_05]

Originally posted by evilskater753
Just simply have the game almost be like "The Getaway : Black Monday"

If any of you have played it.

Not really, I want Driver 4 to be unique and original.

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by evilskater753
Just simply have the game almost be like "The Getaway : Black Monday"

If any of you have played it.

I heard it sucked. :down:

[-XT-]

Originally posted by albrozdud3
I heard it sucked. :down:


Yea but at the same time, I've heard some really great things, and some mediocre things.

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by -XT-
Yea but at the same time, I've heard some really great things, and some mediocre things.

Well, the story was supposed to be eh-eh, the graphics were eh-eh, but the gameplay was not improved over the original. Although, some things in the new one were supposed to be pretty fresh and interesting.... :bulb:

[JAV_Swedish]

The Getaway : Black Monday
Driv3r has better ai folks driving and walking.
City model is better in G:BM, much better, btw.

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by JAV_Swedish
The Getaway : Black Monday
Driv3r has better ai folks driving and walking.
City model is better in G:BM, much better, btw.

Eh, SA beats both anyway :o

[JAV_Swedish]

combine the best parts of all 3 and we get a Very good game!

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by JAV_Swedish
combine the best parts of all 3 and we get a Very good game!

Maybe they can do something like that on a next-gen console :D

[mark_05]

Originally posted by albrozdud3
Maybe they can do something like that on a next-gen console :D

I doubt it.

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by mark_05
I doubt it.

Why? :weird:

[Vasquez]

Split screen. and i don't mean like in Driver 2. in mean the whole city. split screen players 1 & 2 could both get into the same or seperate cars. It would be like in take a ride mode. only with 2 people.

Police Duty. well. tanner is a cop. they should have things to respond to like in true crime.

Fixing up your house. like this will ever be put into a game like this, but it would be neat to place the furniture, and stuff in your house the way you want. like in sims.

Destructable stuff. like in red faction. shotting something with rockets causes huge holes in the wall, ground, buildings, etc. And it would be limitless of how much you could do it. LOL wiping out the city anyone.

One huge State. instead of choosing cities from a menu. how about there was 1 big state. with like 5 cities in it. that would rock.

Online. Oh yeah. an online take a ride. everyone would be people who are playing online. Barely any AI.

Wether and time changes. the weather and time changes depending on the time of day. and it would be neat to have different seasons to for snow, rain, ice, etc.

I'll think of more. but the PS3 could probably only handle this much.

[matt__jon]

Vazquez, nice to see you again!

The problem with online is there isn't enough data flow(you know what I'm saying) to have every single pedestrian you see in the city played by someone else 3000 miles away. Lag would be way too much, thats why most games now put a limit at 16 it seems, although I've played Counter Strike Source on servers of 40 people with no problem, but I don't know much about the internet. Plus, would you really want every pedestrian to be controlled by someone? You'd have 30 people on screen fighting it out with M4's at all times, you wouldn't be able to do anything without being killed.

And about the state, if it were going to be 5 cities, it would be a county. San Andreas is a county thats been called a state to make it sound bigger. Its still big, but its no state.

[JAV_Swedish]

Vasquez, I did a mini sword :) hope it´s OK.

[matt__jon]

Hey everyone, I'm doing this thread FAQ style now, I will be taking all ideas and putting them in the first post, that way if Reflections does really read this they don't have to search the whole place. I will also be going back to older threads later on. This is the single biggest task I have put myself up to, bigger than the FAQ thread even. We will get what we want!

[HotdogAT00]

So you want us to bump up old threads for ideas for Driver 4?

[mark_05]

Works for me!


Driver 4 Ideas:
1. More vehicles.
2. Select a vehicle color.
3. License some cars.

[matt__jon]

you don't need to bump them, I can find them fairly easily.

[HotdogAT00]

How?

[mark_05]

The so small but useful, *cough*, tadda!

Search button! YAY!

[matt__jon]

nevermind, I'm feeling lazy again. That lasted long. If Reflections really reads this board they've probably seen all the ideas over the years, no need to repost them, even though thats basically what we do every time we have an idea.

I'm just gonna say one thing, I want Driver 4 to be about destruction. Cars smashing in endless varieties of ways (real time damage) and anything can be destroyed (buildings) by vehicles or weapons. And some bullets should be able to go thru people and hit other people behind them. And a wide variety of vehicles, huge to tiny. I'd be happy with that. I doubt theres any catching up to GTA now, so its time to go a different direction. Be the Burnout of free roaming games. Vehicle upgrades too. Fire can spread and eventually burn buildings down.

[-XT-]

Originally posted by JAV_Swedish
The Getaway : Black Monday
Driv3r has better ai folks driving and walking.
City model is better in G:BM, much better, btw.



I don't mean to bump up an old, rather useless thread, but I do want to say this:


Do not EVER waste your money on The Getaway: Black Monday. Enough said.

[matt__jon]

Don't worry, I lost all hope for the sequel after the first one.

[JAV_Swedish]

The Getaway : Black Monday
Haven´t driven it for a few months now.
London looks good, the cars looks good, but....
I would prefer that the AI cars & pedestrians would be more like in D3.
Missions, haven´t done any yet. that´s for both of the games.
I like freeride/roam more.
Well, 1 goodside with the pedestrians are that they actually go and try? to help their fallen pals, or something.

[-XT-]

Yea but the game is SOOOOO repetitive. It has barely changed at all from the first one -- same level, same size, a few different cars, same glitches etc. And London is SO boring to drive in... placing it there again just made it useless. :mad:

[Sedans_is_back]

^Agreed. My friend rented it and it looked kinda retarded to be placed there again.

[-XT-]

Oh and to add to that, they removed the great damage physics that once made the first title remotely enjoyable. Now you can slam into anything, and your car won't show a single scratch. :mad:

[JAV_Swedish]

not a single scratch?!
do we have the same game?

I have seen scrathes on the sides of cars, etc..
well, they get damaged but not so easy.
ouch, damn car ran over me whn I drove a police bike!

[#1theman]

All i want in Diver4 is cars run out of gas. Also to fill the tank at gas stations.

[matt__jon]

in TGBM, do you still die when hit by extremely slow moving cars?

[JAV_Swedish]

If they are moving slow, not as far as I remember.
But if you already are badly hurt, then yes, err, uh, that car I was hit by didn´t drive that slow actually.
but if the pedestrians are hit they wont rise up again :rolleyes:

The damage model has become better and worse at the same time.
In the first game you could do bulletholes in the bodywork of the cars, right? Now you can´t.
It looks quite cool when driving motorbike & the mountainbike aint bad either.

[matt__jon]

One of the coolest new features added to TGBM I can think of is the underworld. Imagine, running from the cops, going to a manhole and climbing in, then popping up somewhere else in the city? That would be sweet. I haven't played it, but it sounds like it could be fun if done right.

[Madman799]

i dont know if his has been posted but just in case it hasnt...

.... tanner should look wet when he gets out of the water.

:haha: :haha: :haha:

[Cenobite]

Whoa there, if I wanted destruction I wouldve gotten GTA, this is Driver man!

More things to do with vehicles.

[Diesel speed]

Why not just make a game called CRASH.Make it like the job of a movie effects man in career mode and in free play let him roam around destroying things.And have actual realistic car physics when they crash :mad: .Or, back to d4, make more massive vehicles.Talk DAMAGE! :bulb: .Like have special 18-wheeler trailers that are exteremely tall and are high centered!and go really sharp around a corner and flip and crush the cars! Ahem. Deep breaths :bulb: .Excuse me im a little too excited...

[The-Necromancer]

Originally posted by Deisel speed
Excuse me im a little too excited...
There we go. Woosah my friend, Woosah....

[Diesel speed]

I put effort into that thought.

[Diesel speed]

Istanbul has a yellow-looking sky.And that Turkish music gets annoying too. :sour:

[mark_05]

Originally posted by Diesel speed
Istanbul has a yellow-looking sky.And that Turkish music gets annoying too. :sour:

Interesting, Michael.

[Diesel speed]

Originally posted by mark_05
Interesting, Michael. Yes, and my last name is Raven.

[john cena]

I think that this game should include all the things a cop normally would have an ability to do and what cops do not any gta material like killing innocent people , which would seem not right too me for a cop game. It should have weapons which cops can use not gangster ones. It shoud include:
- realistic range using weapons
-a training mode before starting the fbi.Like it teaches you how to do things the fbi would do and should not do.
-realistic car, helicopter, and bike models including licenses for them.note: a helicopter for a driver game would be appropriate because cops use helicopters.
- a more realistic cop like game(felony of police actually sounds weird for a undercover cop who in the game should have his cop and fbi badges as well as cops should recognize him).
- felonies for only bad guys like gangs
-more multiplayer modes like death match
- a fighting engine which allows Tanner to use different styles of fighting including karate, wrestling ( would really be awesome like to throw people, pick them up, and do favorites like tombstone piledriver, pedigree, rko, five hand shuffle knuckle, batista power bomb, and more), as well as other styles, which you learn to do.
-watch t.v. when taking a break from a mission.
- abillty to increase strength , submission(wrestling submission moves such as Crippler Crossface), dodging moves( ability), charisma, speed, and endurance( with standing moves).
- excercise(which some cops do to increase their strength)
- eat and drink things.
- get effects in the game like being poisoned from something poisonous and others.
- ride a horse ( which some cops do and so that it'll be easier for you to find something driveable)
- realistic damage for characters, cars, motor bikes, planes, boats, helicopters, objects such as walls, lights, doors, glass, and
more.
- more playable characters like caine, jericho,etc.
- ability to create things( like mods especially for the pc version).
- downloadable content online like maps, characters, cities and countries, weapons, vehicles, gangs, peds, objects, fixes, mini games, modes, etc.
-go into ever single building at any time( especially in take a ride mode and of course during surivival mode)
- an entire state and/or country viewable in the game.
- alot of missions (most having been fixed ).

[yevgenievich]

I know it's inpossible and will take forever, but stick in all the countryes that are in the world and all the major cityes from them with airlines, and other stuff, and be able to skip time if u flght it 6 hours, have over 60 different jobs that u can get, and over 300000 different peds, make that u loose if you start a nuclear war and world explodes, make your own weapons, and over 40000 different cars :)
srry if repeated, wich i don't think i did, lol

[john cena]

This is a list of things I think Reflections should include in Driver 4 :

- a more enhanced film director
- cars from the previous games like driver, driver 2, driv3r, and Stuntman(that would be awesome)
- more vehicles including bikes (gta san andreas got the bike idea from driv3r), helicopters, trains (another idea gta got from reflections), maybe even scooters, and rollerblades rideable in the game(just don't let gta get everything from you), and even planes if possible.
- more 70s weapons(maybe even 80s and 90s weapons)
- 50% driving and another 50% of undercover cop work( not any gangster things).
- better graphics like in driver 2's cutscenes or even better ones.
- a young Tanner maybe in his 30s or 40s of age( no one would like to see him in his 50s)
- more playable characters like Tobias Jones(awesome), Jericho( really the one), Solomon Caine ( would be cool), Calita (if possible), plus villains like Vasquez , Pink Lenny, and more would be cool.
- unlockables from past like invicibility( can't kill me), immunity( yes, forget being chased), mini cars(really funny), upside down camera(forgot the word for it), hidden characters,vehicles, weapons, and more.
- driving missions simular to driver's.
- a better sound then the previous games.
- better control ( very important).
- realistic missions with barely a glitch in them.
- A splendid take a ride mode.
- more one and two player modes as well as upto 4 player would be cool.
- maybe online for all systems.
- some features from driv3r (mostly all the really good ones) like cars and trucks with trailers, explorable interiors, same weapons along with more)
- maybe include licenses fro every single vehicle in the game (no matter what)
- ability to get a ticket for speeding( mostly when you just speed, which is stupid for the cops to ram you)
- money in the game
- renting more than just one hotel in a location of the game so that you can start your take a ride or even undercover from there.
- buyable things like houses, cars, boats, scooters, planes, bikes, carts, skateboards(would be cool and then again funny), roller blades, furnitures for both your home and your vehicles, and more.
- garage sales( would be cool to buy used stuff or even new stuff for a lower price)
- street market sales so that if you're in as city you can buy something to drink,eat,use(weapons), and even more for a low price.
- go into stores to buy stuff
- go into restaurants to eat and drink
- better alot more realistic artificial intelligence(ai) especially for the cops, gangs , and pedestrians
- more abilities for Tanner like fighting using karate, tae kwan do, wrestling( awesome, pick up people, throw them, submission holds, as well as specials and more ), with even boxing, and other styles of fighting if possible(note: if you do this, don't leave out wrestling like gta did), climbing objects like ladders, holding on to ledges, shimming,stealth moves, and more
- excercises like lifting(not just that ,which only increases your lifting, not your strength), punching bags ( increase your strength and endurance), toning ( less pain on back and in other parts of the body), blocks for every move, counters for every move, and even more.
- obeying and dissobeying laws from the u.s. constitution are for everyone in the game(in U.S.A.) and effect you.
- go into jail if caught doig something bad and before that go into a court for anything bad done (many kinds of cases in the game)
- a real working government who do everything in their job.Three branches of government( judicial, legislative, and executive branch) in the game would make law seem more realistic.
- when on a mission to going to a airport, go inside and do everything a person who drops off others and is going somewhere will do( actually see the inside of the airport, show your passport to the workers, reserve a private plane for a much bigger cost, eat and drink things on your flight, realistic inside and outside of plane, watch a movie in the plane, a 70s movie,inside of airport has restaurants and stores and everyything a airport would have,plus more ).

[yevgenievich]

watch movie , buy tickets, and other crap like that would be fun one time but will get boring very fast, should make a way to skip all of that crap :)

[#1theman]

-movie like playing graphics
-gas stations/fill up tank
-50% interior buildings
-lisened cars

[john cena]

well yevgenievich think of this. What do cops do in life when taking a break. I think it is a good idea, but then again I say it would take a long time to make it that way. I just feel this should have more realism, I mean come on do you expect cops to work without even sleeping and resting. It wouldn't make sense and what if the missions get boring. What are you gonna do then. Your character should even have the ability to rest. A preson can't last forever I mean that wouldn't feel real to anything. The genre isn't just driving it's also action so it would be a good idea.

[yevgenievich]

well, i don't think it would be fun watching him sleeping for 8 hours, or watching same movie over again, and doing everything over and over again, like it would be in real life, u should be able to skip that part if u want to, make it so when u skip something it will still count it as if it is done as long as u start, and game where it would be like real life, would be boring, same thing goes to cars, one good hit and need to change car, or runed one guy over, u have cops on ur, puting u in jail, that's why they make games like Driver, GTA, Getaway and many others, because reality in games would be boring like hell, the only game where it all would be like real and would be cool is virtual game, where they hook u up this thing, with screens around ur head, so u feel like u walking around, anyway, the point its that playing reality on the computer or console would be extrimly boring, and having to put gas in to the car is fine as long as u don't have to do it every 10 minutes of playing the game, and just puting the gas in all the time and buying food is sux, in GTA SA fist it was fun buying food, but after few times it gat annoying, at least they didn't made it so u have to do it every day(game day), games have to be fun and need to have action going on all the time. What would be cool is have computer in Driver4 or some other game and u can get on ur computer and play other games like stuntman, driver3 , half life, and others, so it would be like 15 games in one. btw stuntman was cool, i was on last mission almost everything on all stunts i've done perfect, but when i was on the last mission some one took my cd!!!! so i never was able to finish the game :(, so having so much reality as everybody thinks about in driver4 would sux, simply because it will get annoying very fast.

[matt__jon]

Driver 4 should be more like a destruction derby set in a city, except you can destroy everything. But that would not be the main point of the game, maybe side missions. The game would stick to its cop premise, I just like causing destruction. And I want fires too, that spread and physically change whatever is being burned. Explosions and big trucks could knock down walls, especially airplanes, which can knock down buildings. And you can move up the ranks in the police department, but none of the regular cop jobs like catching speeders (well, those would be side missions you don't have to do), the main story would be of an undercover cop with whatever it takes weapons, like rocket launchers, because this is supposed to be like an action movie, which are far from reality. And cars should fly in the air like in action movies when they are hit or explode. People would fly back from being shot, exit wounds would explode with blood and splatter on the walls.

[The-Necromancer]

Well I want to mention one of my ideas for Driver 4.
Note this idea is nothing compared to MJ's ideas. This one will suck compared to his.

Ok here it is.

Every car has different type of wheel drive (AWD, FWD, RWD)In the cities I think that it should snow, well whatever cities they put in Driver 4 that can get snow.
And then that is when the FWD (front wheel drive) and AWD (all wheel drive) vehicles would be driving around the city.
For example: Front Wheel Drive Cars.
Hyundai Tiburon, Toyota Celica, Chrysler Concorde, Chevrolete Cavalier.
All wheel drive cars.
Bently Continetial GT, Suburu Impreza, 2005 Saab 92
When it is nice out sunny, no rain or snow there should be any different type of drive.
Some cars can switch between two different types of drives.
Like Hummers, Dodge Magnums and Porsche GT2/turbo like those so that is my idea that every vehicle in Driver 4 has different types of wheel drives. I will think of more ideas.

[-XT-]

I think a good old manual trasmission would be awesome.

[john cena]

- Call in assistance anywhere if you have an accident with any kind of vehicle. They'll come by in 30 min. or so and pull your car or even try to help out(same thing with cops around).This is pretty realistic and would be stupid if left out because if you bought that vehicle, you wouldn’t just leave it there.
- call 911 if you need any help like even in missions(driving or cop work, doesn't matter), tell them what you need help with and even ask them for some ammo and weapons if you're out of them. Make roadblocks, chases, and more. Also call in the fbi if needed(does same things like the cops).
- buy stuff like guns(at gun shops), tools(hammers , chainsaws, screwdrivers, and more at stores), furniture (couches, chairs , tables, and more at furniture stores and other stores ), cameras , TVs, tickets to concerts, baseball, football, basketball, boxing, wrestling(what is the stadium there for then? Should it be left alone? More realistic crowd, and real athletes. Just so that Tanner can take a break from his job.) , play the lottery to win extra cash, gamble at casinos, talk on cell phones & phones(anytime, to anybody, and anywhere, plus pay money for how many minutes you talk), airport tickets for flights to other places(more realism when going to nice; France , and Istanbul; Turkey, from Miami. vehicles at dealers, tires at stores, vehicles parts ( all kinds like things to improve your ride and its looks as well as things to fix your rides), buy houses, buildings, apartments, departments, stores, restaurants , garages , etc. to stay in and have fun as well as take a break (have many places to store ammo, guns, hand weapons, vehicles and more. Buy vehicles like cars, motorbikes, bikes so that we don’t leave them just sitting around, abandoned, helicopters to fly easily to another part of the city(pretty important for when doing missions), scooters(if you have to run and steal a vehicle really fast), and boats to get away from gangs and of course cops.
- all vehicles have licenses in the game.
- more law enforcement like helicopters(necessary when tanner is in a boat on water instead of cops just running in the water)
- better ai. Cops when chasing you will have a lot more control. When you are heading for water they try to pull their cars over as fast as possible(same for gangsters in vehicles). Cops might get out of their cars (when you’re on a boat) and try to shoot you, gangs and cops when in cars or boats will be smart enough to shoot out of the car straight towards you while driving, cops could find a smarter, safer, faster route to catch you(as well as gangs), pedestrians when they hear a gun shot they’ll call the police(when ever you’re doing a mission against gangs or even in take a ride mode), peds will take cover behind objects(same for gangs and cops), and maybe more.
- cops now will only try and kill you if you shoot a person(if caught, any person besides a gangster), shoot at a cop, shoot at an object like wall , car( when someone is inside it) , and if you violate any kind of law being a police man. If you do so then you will be chased by cops for until caught.
- cops will chase after if you pass a street light, try to run over a person, kill innocent people, hit an object like a pole, wall of a building , and more. I consider this because it would make the game a lot more realistic.
-cops will recognize you if you show them your badge of being a cop and even a FBI agent(meaning they won’t do anything about you only if you act as a good citizen and law enforcer). This is pretty realistic for a undercover game, I mean like who would go after another cop and not no he is one. And if so the cops shouldn’t even be chasing him( it would be better to be run down by gangsters and do missions having to do with gangs other than cops chasing you).

[mark_05]

Are you posting the same as you have posted in other threads? :weird:

[-XT-]

Originally posted by mark_05
Are you posting the same as you have posted in other threads? :weird:


:haha: Really! I swear I've seen this entire thing like on four different threads.

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by -XT-
I think a good old manual trasmission would be awesome.

I'll manual YOUR transmission. :eek:
























:weird: Sorry ;) :haha:

[mark_05]

Shift the gear? :confused:

[yevgenievich]

would be cool, to have offroading truck, and some rocks for crawling and offroading, with manual transmission

[matt__jon]

shift gears with up and down buttons.

[yevgenievich]

no, up and down are not good to shift on ps2, use l1 and r1 butons to shift :)

[-XT-]

Originally posted by albrozdud3
I'll manual YOUR transmission. :eek:


You sure are weird today, Al.

[matt__jon]

Those buttons are already in use though. Alright then, upshift by pressing in R3, and downshift by pressing in L3.

[The-Necromancer]

Well for the XBox, this is what I want the controller layout to be for Driver 4. Vehicle

Left trigger: Brake/reverse
Right trigger: Burnout/Accelerate
Control pad up: nothing
Control pad left: Steer left
Control pad down: nothing
Control Pad right: Steer right
Left Anolog stick: Steer
Left Anolog stick click: Nothing
Right Anolog Stick: Look around your car
Right Anolog Stick click: Nothing
Y button: Thrill cam
X button: Enter car/exit car
A button: Emergency brake
B button: Horn
White button: Shift down
Black button: Shift up

BTW in real life if you floor the pedal right away when you start out, you do a burnout. After a certain amount of time, you stop burning out and then just keep on accelerating. The better the accelerating performance (0-60, 0-100) the more short the burnout.

[matt__jon]

Well, for PS3 if the controller remains the same.. ah **** it, I've already posted my most wanted control scheme long ago, and I don't feel like typing it all again or looking for it. But it was good. I mean really good.

But I want to be able to do standing burnouts while holding gas (not necesary to have two buttons, one for gas, one for burnout, the buttons are PRESSURE SENSITIVE, and its not that hard to get used to lightly holding over button mashing. Besides, after little acceleration, you'd be able to hold the button down all the way.) and e-brake.

4 wheels drive vehicles wouldn't be able to burn the tires, but they can chirp them. I want manual transmissions on some cars that you come across, but there should be an option (as I've also said before) to have either all automatic/mix/all manuals. Then we need the on screen speedo and rev meter, as well as a gear display.

[The-Necromancer]

Oh yeah, I forgot about the XBox 2. I wonder how the controller's going to look.

[#1theman]

I want good music. like Julian Austin Diamond,Take the money and run and *****cat.

[john cena]

I would include all the things that cops and fbi agents are able to do like arrest people(first time ever), put people into jail and even get extra money if you serve as a guard for as long as you want and get about $20 each hour, keys in the game so that you can lock your doors of your car, lock your bike, lock your scooter, boats, as well as helicopters if they are going to be in the game, lock your apartment, houses, hotel rooms, department offices, and garages where you can store cars, boats, bikes, scooters, ammo, weapons, and more. The ability to shoot from a helicopter, do 50% driving missions, 25% real cop work, 25% real fbi work, and in take a ride do anything you want to do like go into stadiums with tickets to sports, watch over 300 movies, which are from the 70s, eat foods at restaurants, drink beer, alcohol, and more.

[yevgenievich]

get drunk and get in jail for driving and going to work while being drunk

[john cena]

yeah that would be funny.

[#1theman]

The side missions could be taxi driver, construction worker, and cop. Also be apaplle to have passengers. Or be a passenger your self.

[john cena]

well we wouldn't want to see tanner a cop doing taxi missions, and other missions besides cop because they wouldn't help the game nor would they be enjoyable.Driver series is mostly about cop work and driving and wouldn't fit tanner to be a taxi driver. First of all this isn't gta or crazy taxi and second of all reflections wouldn't be able to change the storyline , which would change the entire series forever and would get boring.

[matt__jon]

Driving a taxi would be a good way to make money, you could charge people for driving them. That is, if there is money in D4. And its a nice break from the real missions, as I've found in GTA. Much more relaxing.

[mark_05]

Hopefully, Atari wouldn't rush Reflections.

[#1theman]

If they do rush reflections. Driver 4 will be the same as d3

[yevgenievich]

Originally posted by matt__jon
Driving a taxi would be a good way to make money, you could charge people for driving them. That is, if there is money in D4. And its a nice break from the real missions, as I've found in GTA. Much more relaxing.
um, make so when passenger gets in u can choose to not let him out of the car, and scary him to death until he pays u all the money he have

[jpht64]

Why talking about wishes for Driver 4 when Reflections should work their butts off to make a final BIG patch that would turn Driver 3 into the game that they promised us in the first place?

This patch should:

Make an end to the very stupid AI of the game.
End all graphical and stability bugs.
Give us more options to change the settings of the game.
And finally, SATISFY US ! :mad:

[matt__jon]

Because they're not going to do that.

[jpht64]

Reflections must have paid sh*tloads of money to get M Madsen, V Rhames, I Pop, and those other actors to cooperate to their game.
Maybe it was a better idea to spend that money making Driver3 into a finished product.
Now the game looks and plays like a first beta version of a 90`s product.
We want a bugfree game instead of the expensive "acting talents" of these famous Hollywood stars.:sour:

[matt__jon]

quit your *****in kid. It looks pretty damn fine to me, sure it doesn't play that way, but quit blowing **** out of proportions. Its a damn fine looking game for PS2, don't know about PC, but its PS2 graphics look to hold a candle to just about any other modern game.

[jpht64]

The Ps2 version rocks, the PC version Sux:down:

[matt__jon]

I'm dling the demo right now. I bet it does suck, I've heard bad things about the PC version, although I heard the same things about consoles.

[yevgenievich]

Originally posted by jpht64

Make an end to the very stupid AI of the game.

And finally, SATISFY US ! :mad:

i agree about AI problem, i had to restart some missions about 50 times because my partner will run right into all the bad gays, shoting none and geting him self killed:cry: :mad:
also i downloaded the demo last night, and started it, and if the demo is what driver3 looks like, it's not worth geting it, even for free, controls are terrible, i have analog controler, but even that didn't help much, every time i exit it and go back it set back to deffaults, also tanner and amost everybody else gat gray hair, so i asume that he is frikin old now, and a lot of toher crap, btw the being smarter with driver3 demo than driver1, in driver 1 the hoole city was available, so u could hack the game and drive around the city(only one tho), in the driver3 demo, even if u hack there is not much place to go free riding, cause they didn't put the full city in

[stevo1988]

What i want to see most is ragdoll and massive multi-play online

[yevgenievich]

yea :up: , also have a split screen liek driver2 had

[matt__jon]

... map editor with all the buildings and objects in D3, along with some new ones.

[jpht64]

When Reflections is planning to produce Driver 4 they should make the cops megatons more intelligent then they are now in Driver 3, ha ha ha.
I have never seen such stupid, dumb*ss cops in a game before.:bulb:

[stevo1988]

If they can make the game online somehow where you can be very interactive with AI Characters (NPCs) that would be great! kind of like an MMORPG but not to that extent...maybe along the lines of Coop, where 2 or + people on LAN or Internet can play together to accomplish something, making a mission strategy and so on...and PLEASE ATRI!!! put ragdoll into the game!!! also make it more where you need to drive from place to place to save/load (home), view replays (studio), options menu (garages around the city), multiplayer menu (Airport) something creative like that where the city is the menu

[yevgenievich]

what i would like is fix one big problem with cops, when they looking for u for some unknown reson they will see u and try to chase u even if u are under the bridge they driving on :weird:

[stevo1988]

Originally posted by yevgenievich
what i would like is fix one big problem with cops, when they looking for u for some unknown reson they will see u and try to chase u even if u are under the bridge they driving on :weird: You have to admit...theyre much better than any of GTA's cops...and theyre always around and when theres an incident...they go to that area to investigate and chase people...i was surprized to see that since im a big GTA fan

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by stevo1988
You have to admit...theyre much better than any of GTA's cops...and theyre always around and when theres an incident...they go to that area to investigate and chase people...i was surprized to see that since im a big GTA fan

San Andreas has much tougher cops than Driv3r. :bulb: :o

[mark_05]

Originally posted by albrozdud3
San Andreas has much tougher cops than Driv3r. :bulb: :o

:up:, the cops in the game girly-fight and are the gayest I've ever seen. :o

[yevgenievich]

i still think that its stupid that they can see u trou the bridge or walls

[jpht64]

And they always trash the patrolcars they are driving, i`m glad i`m not their captain.;)

[matt__jon]

There should be an option for smart or stupid traffic, stupid traffic is like Burnout 2 where they easily pile-up from something blocking the road.

[yevgenievich]

i don't think that would be good, specaially when u r in high speed chaise

[stevo1988]

They need to be some AI fixes where the cops can see you when their in a clear view of you, if your behind a building the cops should look around to find you giving you the ability to hide and escape leaving them wondering where you went.

[matt__jon]

That shouldn't be too hard to program I would think. Just program it so that if the cop is on screen, he can see you too. Right now in D3 if you are within a certain radius the cops know where you are.

[john cena]

They should include all the parts of the cities in the game(not half of a city), improve the graphics for the game like the cutscenes, maybe add stealth, lighting effects for driver 4 would go great with its graphics, realistic shadows, real time & clock in the game(unlike the day time and night time in take a ride), fix most of the glitches in undercover mode and multiplayer or even take a ride mode, add stuntman 2's engine for driver 4's driving and maybe more realistic damage( if stutman 2's damge modeling is better than driv3r's), vehicles from previous driver games as well as stuntman and stuntman 2 along with new ones, a very real ai for every pedestrians,cops, gangs, tanner, as well as for the characters with many abilities like climbing, sliding, crounching, crawling, punching, kicking, hanging, rolling,grabing,pushing(like to push a box forward),pulling,grabing,plus special abilities like turning off & on the lights, ,bomb,turning off & on a switch, opening a door,closing a door, opening a vent(for tanner to try and hide from enemies like in splinter cell, more freedom like breaking a door in a building or house(cops really could do that and it would be cool),add blood if the game is going to stay mature with all parts of body containing different ways to kill and injure like break an arm, break a leg, break a neck, bleed from head , cuts on the arms,legs,back,etc,a realistic control like if your character runs too fast he might slip and cut or bruise himself, and many more would make the game very good.

[john cena]

what happened to all the posting here? Aren't you all excited about Driver4? Please people we need to keep posting here because this forum stopped about 4 days ago.

[Pyros]

Let's make wishes come true :p

[bctrainers]

Originally posted by Pyros
Let's make wishes come true :p

Yup, wishes can ever so truely become reality! ;)

[xtsubarublazin]

:confused:

[mark_05]

Originally posted by xtsubarublazin
:confused:

I P-Med Bc to make this thread stickied so they did it. ;)

[john cena]

Lets just hope that the game will take some time and that it'll be awesome. Atari better stop speeding up Reflections and if they do then I'll write an email to them.

[xtsubarublazin]

Originally posted by mark_05
I P-Med Bc to make this thread stickied so they did it. ;)


Oh! Well, not to be conceited, but I think the Calling All Screenshots thread deserves to be stickied moreso than this.

We don't even know if D4 is ever going to be, so isn't this pointless? And Atari never listens. They blew D3 for PC, I barely trust them anymore.

[Bowarcher]

Originally posted by Pyros
Let's make wishes come true :p

I wish that Pyros had to use a Mac using AOL forever.

Just kidding, I would never wish that on anyone.

[Pyros]

Originally posted by xtsubarublazin
We don't even know if D4 is ever going to be, so isn't this pointless? And Atari never listens. They blew D3 for PC, I barely trust them anymore.

The Driver license sells, so there certainly would be another game.

[mark_05]

Originally posted by Pyros
The Driver license sells, so there certainly would be another game.

Would you be here to make another forum addition to the Driver Series?

[Pyros]

Originally posted by mark_05
Would you be here to make another forum addition to the Driver Series?

If Driver 4 was announced, I'd get a Driver 4 forum made, yes.

[john cena]

If it is going to be announced soon then we should get ready.

[Pyros]

Originally posted by john cena
If it is going to be announced soon then we should get ready.

No one has said anything about it being announced or being in development. This thread is just for the devs of it should it be in development or developed in the future.

[albrozdud3]

It would probably be a next-gen project, and may not be developed by Atari at all since the creator of the series(Martin Edmondson) left Reflections after Driv3r. Earliest we'd probably hear of it is later this year if at all. :bored:

[matt__jon]

Although Edmonson left, Atari and Reflections still hold the rights to the series, so they'll keep on making it without him. And since Edmonson was the creative director, the next game could be fairly different, and hopefully not based in the game ideals of yesteryear.

Who made this thread? Was it me? If I did, I'll organize the first post if I feel like it so that all the ideas are in the first post, for easier finding by Reflections or any other developer willing to take on our fantastic game ideas.

[mark_05]

Or maybe you can PM a moderator, such as Pyros, to merge the thread I guess and delete the spam replies (such as these). :)

[midivox]

Hi All,
I would like to see Driver 4, add unlimited save replay slots. And the ability to turn the mission recorded off and on. That way you could turn it on manually when the action gets hot. And leave it off if you are just crusin around, untill you find or do something interesting.
Tanner should have a sex change and be an undercover politce woman.
Adding a couple of cars with James Bond type built in weaoons.
Ability to customise cars, paint them, put logos, etc on them.
How about a flying car?
Some new cities like Chicago. Or even a Driver game set in the 1930s or 1050s so all the vehicles would be classic cars.
A better on screen map with street names etc. And a zoom mode that actually shows buildings, landmarks, alleys, etc.
A two player mode of some kind. At least for the Driving Games. A few more Driving Game types added to the ones already there.
I would not make the cars easier to blow up. A few more convertables. An Indy car and some other race cars to unlock.
Ability to upgrade cars. Bulletproof Tires, Glass, bigger engines, ABS, cars with trunks you could toss bodies in. Some MP3 radio stations like True Crime has.
Bulletproof vests.
Some more gameplay views other than just a toggle between 1st and 3td person.
Give the cops and also the robbers some hi tech weapons and gadgets. Ability to turn off a cars engine by driving a little robot car under your car. Maybe even a Future Tech Car with an AutoPilot and build in GPS as an unlockable.
Paint Guns, Super Soakers, Throwing Knives, Flash Bangs, A Hummer, Dune Buggy, a Stealth Car.
Happy Drivin
MidiVox

[matt__jon]

I'd like the manual transmission idea, only on hard mode, theres also a button for the clutch that you have to press while changing gears. Upgrading cars would be great too.

[#1theman]

midivox you have good ideas even though your a new member. Just don't turn into "the elite" That would be funny seeing him as a woman. I laughing ready just typing this.
HAHAHA

I think they should have one city. And have a big storyline.
The story line : Cars and babes

[mark_05]

Originally posted by #1theman
I think they should have one city. And have a big storyline.
The story line : Cars and babes

That's just stupid. :o

[#1theman]

No its not. It grrreat. As tony the tiger would say. Cars and babes go to gether.

[mark_05]

Originally posted by #1theman
No its not. It grrreat. As tony the tiger would say. Cars and babes go to gether.

Your just not getting the point. :o

[midivox]

Hi All,
Now that some games let you customise your car, with logos etc. Why not have pin up cars, decorated with pin up art, like they used to decorate World War 2 bombers for example.
Many racing games have racing babes. Such as the ones in the street racing games for example or even the female race car drivers in R Evolution, which has some fine cut scenes and a small plot for a racer anyway.
I drove past some skateboards in Miami but did not jump out of the car I was driving to see if you could ride the skateboard a la Tony Hawk. But how about a jet propelled skateboard and surfboard.
Happy Drivin
MidiVox

[john cena]

Oh yes!! I'm sure it would be fun to see tanner ride a skateboard.:weird: Listen up. I don't think we would want to see tanner riding a skateboard so no. This series should just stick to law enforcement and driving.

[midivox]

Hi Everyone,
For sure its the Driving and the Driving missions that set the Driver series apart from any other video game series. Closest thing is Wreckless on the XBox, but that only had 8 missions, no free roam mode. All the missions were timed too. Driver 3 mixes them all with the mission mix. Driver 4 should have more missions and a create your own mission editor. At least on the PC and XBox.
Longer replay recording also. Or when it runs out while you are in the middle of a mission, start recording Part 2. etc.
With the price of gasoline way up, I have not just got in the car and burned gas. So Driver 3's Take A Ride mode lets me go for a drive at any time, no gasoline needed.
Happy Drivin
MidiVox

[john cena]

Originally posted by midivox
Hi Everyone,
For sure its the Driving and the Driving missions that set the Driver series apart from any other video game series. Closest thing is Wreckless on the XBox, but that only had 8 missions, no free roam mode. All the missions were timed too. Driver 3 mixes them all with the mission mix. Driver 4 should have more missions and a create your own mission editor. At least on the PC and XBox.
Longer replay recording also. Or when it runs out while you are in the middle of a mission, start recording Part 2. etc.
With the price of gasoline way up, I have not just got in the car and burned gas. So Driver 3's Take A Ride mode lets me go for a drive at any time, no gasoline needed.
Happy Drivin
MidiVox
Well your ideas did better now than before.

[driv3r_madness]

Way tooooo many problems. I hope they all get fixed in the next PC Patch!

[mark_05]

Bump! Oh, wait; Attention threads don't need to be bumped!

I would like to see in Driver 4

More cars.
More sounds. (Sound effects, engines)
Longer replays.
More buildings/enterable ones!
+Alot more!

[Diesel speed]

What about multiplayer take a ride? Oh yeah, and another thing,midivox,please cut through the crap and get to the point in these threads.(advice)

[midivox]

Hello Everyone,
How about a car that turns into a boat and the reverse, like some kind of James Bond type vehicle. Could make it a hidden vehicle or and one you use with a cheat code.
Tanner should be able to roll in any direction, just not forward.
How about Two Gun Tanner a la Max Payne.
Since Tanner has boats and motorcycles, how about a jet ski.
Happy Gaming
MidiVox

[mark_05]

Originally posted by Diesel speed
What about multiplayer take a ride? Oh yeah, and another thing,midivox,please cut through the crap and get to the point in these threads.(advice)

Why? Is there any reason why it's so horrific to say "Hi" every time you post? :confused:

[edit: Back on topic]

[Diesel speed]

Well...no...anyway, why have a burnout button?just have the accellerator button and have cars do burnouts when you hit the button.and they should burnout like a car of their weight/power.

[matt__jon]

I agree with you diesel, many buttons are wasted on essentially the same action, but its ok in D3's case, considering the gameplay was so limited you didn't need any more buttons for anthing, unfortunately. In Stuntman, since the ps2's buttons are pressure sensitive, if you pressed hard on the X button, it chirped the tires, but it wasn't quite like the Driver series burnouts. I would like to see the implementation of a manual transmission and clutch. I don't know the exact technique of burning out a rear wheel drive car, my friend told me once before, I think he said you rev the engine, pop the clutch, then press the brake and floor it. Something like that.

I've never driven RWD before, only FWD and AWD (drove my friends WRX around a parking lot once a few weeks ago while learning to drive a stick, then realized he was low on gas on my second trip around which brought my experience to a short and sudden end) I still don't got the hang of a stick. I'm paying too much attention to the revometer, whatever its called, don't feel like thinking right now. I just need to go with the flow. The thing I hate is how they're gas pedals are so sensitive. I've driven my friends Civic Si with a stage 2 clutch, first stick I've driven, that was hard, though I did get it a few times. The hard part is finding the clutches sweet spot where it starts engaging and not reving too much, I don't want to burn my friends tires, it usually ends up lurching a lot and I have to press the clutch back down. It sucks. Maybe my dads 92 Maxima doesn't have as sensitive a pedal. I'm used to driving my 89 Accord where you have to floor it to get the car to accelerate any. On my friends Civic you can't move your toe without it reving at 5 grand. Still fun learning though. I had a dream later that night I was driving his Civic around S turns fast and came around one turn too fast and had to slam on the brakes hard, I almost drove it off a 5 foot drop off into the woods. I didn't tell him about that dream though.

[Diesel speed]

What about split screen take a ride? Have the other player be able to drive or ride anywhere, even in the trunk :D . Let the other player be able to control other car functions that would take too much space on one controller (power windows,windshield wipers, dump bed on dump truck, etc.) and have the driver use L3 & R3 as the cruise control and lights. Let the other player use guns, too. And have changing days, seasons, and weather.

[midivox]

Hello All, your friends, family, even your pets.
Some more ideas.
I like the burnout button, and the wheelie stick feature for the motorbikes. But I doubt that very many drivers try to steer with the Dpad, so add some new car functions with a Dpad.
Self Destruct, for turning your car into a bomb, after you bail out.
Turbo Mode in certain cars.
Suspension Button to raise your car up or down. Like the Lo Riders.
Some Military Vehicles.
The ability to play and pause a replay without any replay interface on screen.
Some exotic cities like Rio, Bagdad, Hong Kong, Singapore, Moscow in the Snow, Bogata, etc. Some cities usually not seen in Driving or Racing Games, Chicago, Pittsburgh with its 3 Rivers, Vancouver BC, Seattle.
Happy Driving
MidiVox

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by midivox
Hello All, your friends, family, even your pets.
Some more ideas.
I like the burnout button, and the wheelie stick feature for the motorbikes. But I doubt that very many drivers try to steer with the Dpad, so add some new car functions with a Dpad.
Self Destruct, for turning your car into a bomb, after you bail out.
Turbo Mode in certain cars.
Suspension Button to raise your car up or down. Like the Lo Riders.
Some Military Vehicles.
The ability to play and pause a replay without any replay interface on screen.
Some exotic cities like Rio, Bagdad, Hong Kong, Singapore, Moscow in the Snow, Bogata, etc. Some cities usually not seen in Driving or Racing Games, Chicago, Pittsburgh with its 3 Rivers, Vancouver BC, Seattle.
Happy Driving
MidiVox

Chicago and Rio were both in Driver 2. :bulb:

You could hardly call Baghdad and Bogota "exotic", at least not in this day and age. Bogota is a crime-infested, cartel-controlled drug haven and one of the most dangerous cities on earth, and of course, Baghdad is still in the middle of a warzone. :bored:

[midivox]

Hello, There are lots of interesting cities that never get into any kind of video game and then there are all the made up cities , just created for video and PC games. With video games becoming more popular every year, I am sure product placements will bring us more real world buildings, malls, etc in game cities. What kind of city one considers exotic is relative. There are lots of GTA, Driver type clonr games in the game pipelines, so we will see a lot more cities in games and a lot more ways to do things in those game cities.
Happy Games
MidiVox

[carlover325]

I like the fact that Driver 4 is going to be set in New York. I hope you can make it snow, kind of like it did in the last mission in Driver, and it would be cool to have the snow build up, and have your car lose control on ice. I want licensed cars, like the Chevy Suburban, Ford Taurus, some not-so-ordinary cars such as Ferraris, and a lot of luxury cars and SUVs such as Mercedes-Benz, BMWs, and Lincolns. Have the game set in present times, but feature cars that are old, and are beat up. Have places that can make it so you can change the color of your car, the rims, tint your windows, and change the sound of your horn. I would like 100+ vehicles, better walking animations, way better swimming animations, and have there being actual neighborhoods with lots of streets of houses, and cars in most of the driveways. I'll probably add more later. Also have realistic damage to buildings, that will slowly be repaired.

[xtsubarublazin]

Jesus I just hit delete at the wrong time and erased my entire post. :mad:

Anyway, here's a shortened version

Atari, make realistic, cumulative weather. Snow and rain that sticks and builds up.

Make vehicle variation tend more towards middle class cars, and feature junkers and exotics very rarely.

Less construction sites. You really see few of those on the roads -- you really see road work common though, make road work a bigger part of the environment.

Make parking lots include many cars (a packed lot). In D3 there were only a few cars in a huge lot. This needs to change.

Destroyable buildings. In case you didn't realize, slamming into a glass storefront at 70 miles an hour does more than bounce you off with a minute amount of damage to your vehicle.

If need be, make on-foot interaction at a minimum. I'd rather have traffic snarl-ups, full parking lots, sleet and snow on the ground (with the associated effects), a huge selection of cars and amazing damage features than some moron in a black suit that jumps like a girl ANY DAY. (keep the "get out of the car" feature still available, obviously)

Make AI vehicle variation include more than just color -- include the same models with varying rims, paintjobs (like details), damage levels, exhaust fumes and engine sounds. Not everyone takes care of their car the same -- it would be really nice to have the same model available in a nice condition and a run-down condition.

Many many more cars. Just more cars. 'nuff said.

Increase the damage effects - yes you did pretty good in D3... let's make it spectacular. Burnout 3 type crashes would be great.


No need to go all out like San Andreas. Keep the unnecessary effects to a minimum. Yes, flying would be nice, but we can do that in SA. Additionally, don't make Tanner do retarded-ass things like buy pop and food -- there is and never was a need for it. You could, however, allow him to get gas. Running out of gas in vehicles would be a cool feature, although you might want to have an option to turn it off.

Please include a manual transmission.

Look at the difference between old and new cars: Old cars are big and bulky, and have no power steering. Enhance the difference between the generations of cars. Make the deadzone higher for older cars, and let the wheels turn slower. Likewise, make newer cars easier to steer, but lighter.

Don't strain yourselves to make outrageously big areas to drive in. Frankly, none of the large cities in D3 featured anything that great. One area was virtually the same as another area. If it's going to take too long, just forget it...

DO US ALL A FAVOR AND MAKE AN AIRTIGHT GAME. SMALLER AND SIMPLER MIGHT BE BETTER.

We'll see how you do.

Include these ideas and other things, and I think the game will be great.

[albrozdud3]

Too bad Reflections doesn't read these boards. :bored: :downcast:

I want weapons. Emphasis on driving, but keep shooting in the game. And with the on-foot, make it handle well. Guess what? GTA games play like a charm. :)

Dynamic weather and seasons would be nice, but probably impossible on current-gen systems. Implementing the Havok physics engine would be great. Vehicle physics were great in D3, I hope they stay just as good. :up:

Please make the story as good as the early Drivers. Driv3r's story started well but tapered off at the end. It seems they rushed that, too. :(

Keep the Driver series as a grade-A title.

[xtsubarublazin]

Originally posted by albrozdud3
Guess what? GTA games play like a charm. :)



Yes but Rockstar has proved to be a trust-worthy company -- they seem to deliver what they claim.

Reflections/Atari is not known for this. Thus my suggestion about keeping the game simple -- no need to strain them up to GTA-style games, they couldn't even finish D3.

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by xtsubarublazin
Yes but Rockstar has proved to be a trust-worthy company -- they seem to deliver what they claim.

Reflections/Atari is not known for this. Thus my suggestion about keeping the game simple -- no need to strain them up to GTA-style games, they couldn't even finish D3.

I just meant control-wise. GTA will always be king of content for obvious reasons, but as far as the basics: a simple jump/ability to climb over objects, good targeting controls, sprint button, etc. GTA has some of the most fluid control settings in console games. Driv3r's... weren't. :o

[matt__jon]

Along with D3's weapons:

Rocket Launcher
Sniper Rifle
Dual Weapons on smaller arms, cheat code to dual big arms
Melee weapons

Improve police AI mainly, make it so that they have to be able to see you to know where you are (unless they saw you go into a place and have it circled (which would also be a cool addition, fighting your way out of a building)

*Turn off power in buildings
*shoot out seperate lights
*knock over light poles with larger vehicles, cuts off power in certain sections (I guess NY doesn't have many telephone poles though)

I won't say too much, most of what I want has already been said by others or by yours truly much earlier. Good luck Reflections, please use our ideas.

[albrozdud3]

I always wanted to be able to play out the shootout depicted in Driv3r's opening cutscence. Multiple police units responding would be cool, hopefully more building will be enterable.

[JAV_Swedish]

GTA controls weren´t THAT good. but quite ok atleast.

Hey, remember, Tanner is a Police!

More accurate city layouts.
As Istanbul, not as Miami, Miami is quite unaccurate, atleast what I can see, but still goodlooking.

[matt__jon]

D3's controls were better. More like Halo.

Anyway, I agree, since he's a cop (well, not really sicne he gets chased by the cops and killed by them in free roam) we should be able to call in more units, road blocks, on missions anyway, where we're chasing people. Even call in SWAT, police helicopters.

It probably wouldn't work in free roam where you're the bad guy. Who knows. I don't feel like thinking right now.

[carlover325]

I would just like different areas of the city to be unique. As xtsubarublazin put it, D3 was big, but the cities were the same throughout, no matter where you went, so basically, you've seen one area, you've seen them all. To change this, make part of the map really nice, with mansions and high end vehicles, and have another part of the city be like a slum, and have run down houses and buildings and beat up cars, but also have middle-class neighborhoods with decent houses and good family cars. Also, make different ethnic towns, such as Chinatown and Little Italy, and make them look like the actual country that they are named after.

I don't want the game to be too big, San Andreas was border-line too big because it took forever to get from one part of the map to another, but also don't make it too small, I want to have more than just a week of fun gameplay.

I want it to have better landscaping, have parks and maybe a race track where you can steal race cars or something.

Have ultra-realistic vehicle damage in-which if you run into something hard, have the car have the appropriate amount of damage for that collision, cracking the windshield or stalling the engine would be great.

Improve the engine dynamics. An engine is not going to blow up if you are shooting it, make it so the car will be unable to start if it is being shot up, or if you are driving, make the engine stall, and not be able to be restarted, only make the car blow up if you shoot at the gas tank.

Fill the cities with interesting places, and make it so you could continue to find these places even after you have beaten the game.

Have a better selection of hidden vehicles, there were only three in each city in D3, I want between 10 and 15 hidden cars.

I want more enterable buildings. There were very few in D3, make it more fun and have many enterable buildings.

Keep the armories, but instead of having a special cheat for each city, just fill it with ammunition and guns, and put the cheats in the options menu cheats list, I wanted so badly to use Infinite Mass Mode in Miami and Nice, but it was only available in Istanbul, and to me, that makes no sense.

Have a larger selection of cheats. I would like to see Infinite Mass Mode in the cheats selection menu as well as many other cheats.

I didn't enjoy the on-foot sequence much because of the lame way Tanner walked. Make the animations better, and make less missions on-foot based, after all, the name of the game is Driver, not walker, but I say keep a few on foot missions.

I'll probably add more later, as I think of them. :) :p ;) :D :haha: :heart:

[JAV_Swedish]

A real NY would be a blast :)
Enterable subway?
with trains coming & going & possibility to travel in them?
+ to walk in the tunnelzzz http://forum.msi.com.tw/Smileys/msi/shocking.gif

[albrozdud3]

Cheats should not mess up gameplay if they're accesible from menus. :bored:

Originally posted by Carlover325
I didn't enjoy the on-foot sequence much because of the lame way Tanner walked. Make the animations better, and make less missions on-foot based, after all, the name of the game is Driver, not walker, but I say keep a few on foot missions.

Exactly. :up:

[matt__jon]

Whats most important though, if you're going to change anything, change the sense of speed. Everything topped out at the same speed (Ferraris go the same speed as semi trucks, but cops can always go faster), which looked to be about 80 mph. I want it to actually look fast, please.

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by matt__jon
Whats most important though, if you're going to change anything, change the sense of speed. Everything topped out at the same speed (Ferraris go the same speed as semi trucks, but cops can always go faster), which looked to be about 80 mph. I want it to actually look fast, please.

Yeah, crappy cop cars shouldn't be able to outrun Lambos. :sour:

[JAV_Swedish]

What about cop cars outrunning Ferrari´s?

Atleast in Sweden the cop cars are faster than normal cars.

[matt__jon]

Ferraris aren't normal cars. Sure, in Italy they now have Lamborghini cop cars. Over here the fastest we get I think are Camaros, possibly Corvettes. Not sure how the Mustang stacks up to those two cause I know they have Mustangs too. I know Corvette is faster that those two.

My friend knows these guys that work at the Chevy dealership, they have a new Z06 in the back they haven't put on display. These guys took it for a joyride with a camera, they said the thing pulls through all gears and they hit 200 mph on one of the roads around here. lol.

[midivox]

Hi All,
One reason I like the Driver games, they use real world cities, instead of the made up ones like GTA uses. In the next Driver, I would like to see more real world stuff, like Auto Dealers, Junkyards with junkyard dogs, building with stairwells and elevators and any building you can go inside. One could always have some kind of collect em ups one finds.
How about putting in an arcade that has Driver 1 in it, etc. Maybe one mission. You could then hide the other missions in other buildings etc.
Burnout 3 and some of the upcoming games have better explosions, but actually Driver 3s car damage model is still better than the games with licensned cars. Anyway I would add tire blowouts, roofs that could be ripped off, trunks that could fly off, external mirrors that can be destroyed, etc.
I thonught the various city neighborhoods were very good compared to other car games. If you walk around in the neighborhoods or cruise around on a motorcycle, each neighborhood and block has something different.
I would definitely make the game on the XBox 360. The graphics upgrade for cars and everything is amazing. I have a lot of car screenshots. I will put some up in the New XBox threads.
Happy Drivin
MidiVox

[Anonymous]

Here's what I want to see:

1. No glitches/bugs.

2. a bigger varitey of weather ex. Snow, hail, tropical storms etc.

3. more cars that are in the 90's or 2000's

[matt__jon]

Played D3 for the first time in a while today, its pretty fun actually. And I've been playing San Andreas past two weeks. Anyway, I came up with a short list of stuff while playing:

*Return of skidmarks (only saw a few)
*Upgrades, mostly for speed, NOS, turbo, supercharger, displacement, etc. but also some for looks, spoilers, hood scoops (big airplane-like scoops), lips, etc. Really depends on what types of vehicles are in the game, but make common upgrades made to those types of vehicles please.
*Disco music (that is, if this takes place in the 70's, otherwise, real music, no musaac please
*More cars on highway/in general, too easy to drive wrong way
*I can't knock people off motorcycles when I hit them from behind at full speed, those are some pretty beast riders, better than Tanner
*Trains in free roam, driveable, but not like SA where they derail on a straight stretch when going to fast, only on curves when going too fast

Cheats
*Icy streets
*low gravity

I would tell you all the new button layout I felt like making up, but I don't feel like typing anymore.

[carlover325]

I want there to be more button abilities. By this I mean, use all of the buttons for different abilities. What I mean is that I don't need two different buttons for sounding the horn or burning out. Keep the right analog stick for accelerator and also have X be the accelerator, but eliminate useless buttons. Instead of having R1 be the horn (because L3 is the horn), have it be used for a driveby shooting button when looking to the side, or something like that. I would like to see turn signals that I can operate (like in The Getaway), but I don't know if there will be enough buttons for that.

[matt__jon]

The button layouts I think of are quite a bit different from most of todays layouts, so I don't know if they'd work out very well. Its worth a try. Plus, most people fear change. I remember when reading about this game how it said shooting and walking would be controlled via analog I hated that, but then I played it and it worked nicely, got used to analog steering even. So now I like to incorporate analog into everything I make up.

In Car:
Gas - Left Analog (LA) up
Brake - LA down
Left - LA left
Right - LA right
Look around - RA
Handbrake - R1
Fire Weapon - L1
Horn - LA press
Look Back - RA press
Burnout - R2
Hard Steer - L2
Exit Vehicle - Triangle
Change Weapon - Square
Shift Up - Circle
Shift Down - X
Pause - Start
Change View - Select
Save View Angle - DPAD Down
Left blinker - left dpad
Right blinker - right dpad
4-ways - left+right dpad
Headlights - up dpad

pressing down saves whatever angle you're looking around at (with the right analog) and puts it in the view order when you press select.

[Driv4rGeek]

Hey guys, i just read the thing on IGN.com about Driv$r and i had to come back. Sorry for being gone so long.

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by Driv4rGeek
Hey guys, i just read the thing on IGN.com about Driv$r and i had to come back. Sorry for being gone so long.

It isn't like we missed you. :bored:

[xtsubarublazin]

Originally posted by Driv4rGeek
Hey guys, i just read the thing on IGN.com about Driv$r and i had to come back. Sorry for being gone so long.


Reported for ban violation.

[stuntdriver]

Just wanted to say hi to Matt and all the other regs. I am a bit excited for the upcoming DrIVer. Like always I'll have my hopes up :) The online sounds like great fun, Cat & Mouse anyone? :D
My only real disappointments were that it was not announced for 360 or PS3 (preferably 360) and I was hoping for another Stuntman in some form, perhaps that will be the next-gen test game.

Well, you'll see me around again especially once the info starts rolling in.

[matt__jon]

Always nice to see an old name. Like I said, I played D3 again for the first time in a while the other day, it was pretty fun. Sure it got old quicker than San Andreas does, but it was fun while it lasted.

Also these videos of Burnout Revenge are insane! I don't even have 3 yet, but I saw it for 20$ today, I think I'll pick it up after I make a payment on the house next week (me and my college buddies moving into a house on campus for the next 3 years, if things go well, we might even stay after we graduate) Its expensive as hell, too bad the lease starts in June, I was hoping to have a job by the time I had to make the first payment. I can't spend money on anything else right now, money's tight.

Anyway, I'm also looking forward to Stuntman 2, I hope to see, next generation, a whole lot of particle effects when crashing into stuff, thats always good. Like the Killzone video, although I'm pretty sure those graphics won't be achieved on PS3.

[john cena]

Originally posted by Anonymous
Here's what I want to see:

1. No glitches/bugs.

2. a bigger varitey of weather ex. Snow, hail, tropical storms etc.

3. more cars that are in the 90's or 2000's
Trains? Well, I don't think that would fit for a driving and law enforcement game.Why? You have to ask yourself. Do undercover cops drive on trains? Well no they don't and it wouldn't be much of a drivable vehicle especially when doing a mission. I think that they should try and stay away from gta. Like i don't want it to have a parachute ability and why would he parachute? If you joined the army then it would make sense, but then again no. I think they should put in some more vehicles, but not anything a fbi agent or undercover cop wouldn't drive, much more realistic looking explosions, crashes are more realistic, stealth would be cool, maybe realistic lighting (fits with a game with awesome graphics perfectly), realistic shadows( also would fit), alot more weapons(basically all the weapons cops, fbi, and law enforcement use), realistic range, realistic damage( to body like the arm, legs , and head), a teen rating since it probably won't have any blood, mature rating if it's going to have blood, real time in take a ride, undercover, and driving games mode, real weather effects, realistic ai(cops and gangs who should be able to take cover real smartly, shoot you and not at a car, pursuit you and take a short cut to stay on you, smarter when driving after you like they won't run into a car and a much more), and also a realistic seem like undercover mode, which is more fun and seems interesting(unlike driv3r's).

[matt__jon]

He's only undercover in the missions. Take a ride is a different story, and therefore should have different gameplay.

[john cena]

For once he should have his own house or building where he lives in. He should even have a wife and children because why would a cop be not married by his age? They should give the player a more realistic feeling of what a fbi agent or cop can do when either driving or on foot. Something that has pleasured the driver fans for a long time and what has also pleasured stuntman fans. I really didn't see much of stuntman when it came to driv3r. They should:
- Enhance the graphics (just as long as they don't spend as much time on it as they did on driv3r)
- Make sure the game has fixed glitches of driv3r.
- A much more realistic undercover mode with more realism and fun.
- Alot of the driver series' cars along with some new ones.
- Much better songs.
- More songs.
- More weapons, which a cop or fbi agent usually uses.
- Maybe let Tanner join the swat team in undercover mode.
- A real time for the city or cities in the game.
- Real miles of road in the city or cities that are all open to you in every way(either boat, bike,car, van, scooter, or even truck)
- Alot more missions than ever before.Like maybe over 50-60.
- A realistic fighting system.
- Realistic lighting and shadow effects.
- Realistic stealth engine.
- A way more realistic driving engine.
- Realistic firing and range rate for all weapons.
- Alot more realistic explosions.
- Alot more realistic damage (for ever single vehicle in the game).
- Alot more abilities that let tanner get to high places, knock out enemies, kill enemies, use stealth moves, get to very low places, and more abilities.
- In take a ride mode get to watch t.v. whenever, listen to radio whenever, listen to a cd player whenever, eat whenever, buy stuff for your place whenever, and much more.
- Unlockables like medals, trophies, objects, weapons, and more that can be placed wherever inside your building.
- Deathmatches in multiplayer mode
- Co-op for undercover mode.
- Earn certain things in the game online.
- Buyable vehicles(most or all) in certain parts of a city, which are later placed inside your garage or garages for use whenever.
- Take a ride should begin wherever he lives.

[Gangsta 4 Eva]

ummm just 1 thing... i prefer taking the cars i buy to the garage by myself, it would more realistic =\

[john cena]

Yeah you do have a point and it would feel more fun to drive to your place with the car.

[Diesel speed]

hmmmm...Burnout 1, Burnout 2, Burnout 3, Burnout Revenge.
Jaws 1, Jaws 2, Jaws 3, Jaws Revenge. hmmmm... :p

[yevgenievich]

is burnout revenge beter than butnout 3?

[matt__jon]

Revenge is not out yet, plus I STILL don't have 3, which sucks cause I've been meaning to get it and I saw it the other day for 20 bucks (I should wait to buy all my games, get $30 off, much more efficient)

[Awesometroid]

I saw Burnout 3 at a Target for $15 a few days ago, and they also had a Driver + Driver 2 pack thing there for $20, I wanted it so bad since I never actually owned them, but I didn't get it.

But anyway, I know some stuff I want in D4(sorry for making that topic guys, I always forget to read sticky'd stuff at the top).

1. Hand combat weapons. Knives, brass knuckles, hand tasers, ETC.

2. Hidden weapons. Sawed off shot guns, rifles with the stock cut off(but not the barrel), switchblade knives, butterfly knives(and you get to see him flip it out when you use it) ETC.

3. Able to pick up objects and use them for whatever. Rocks, boards, large sticks, tools, busted trash stuff, ETC.

4. Can load stuff in & on vehicles. Put stuff in car trunks, hiding a gun in a motorcycle pouch thing, load a butt load of guns in the back off a truck(and then you have to cover it up with something), loading cars onto big boats, loading them on semis, ETC.

5. Can jack up people's vehicles. Load bombs onto semis, mess with peoples cars, strip their cars and leave an empty shell, put bombs that are speed sensitive on stuff, anything like that, ETC.

6. More bad stuff to deal with in T-A-R mode. Gangs, a WHOLE lot more drivers and bikers that carry guns, people actually do something when you shoot a gun or steal their car besides run away, ETC.

7. The perfect director mode. Can put in props and weather changes and badguys, are able to rewind and fast forward at different speeds, ETC.

8. WAY better vehicles. Airplanes, 4-wheelers, helicopters, jet skis, bicycles, skate boards, dump trucks, wrecking balls, something with weapons that flys, a police motorcycle, anything cool, ETC.

9. Way more buildings to go in. And people in them, and every building has some kind of special feature, people in buildings that do stuff, ETC.

10. Can do stuff in T-A-R that you could normally only do in undercover mode(or couldn't be done at all). You can meet up with a buddy and he'll ride with you and you can shoot while driving, you can shoot out of the back of a truck, you can shoot when driving with one person in any kind of vehicle, ETC.

11. Tons of fun stuff to do around the city/cities. You can play some B-ball in the street, you can go to your house and choose from a bunch of different outfits and stuff to where, you can drag race people on the streets, ETC.

12. A bunch of more actions and stuff you can do. You can push someone, throw punches and kicks, when holding a weapon you can choose what to do with it(like throw or hide it), you can ride in the back seat of taxis and anyone else's car if you don't make them get out, and you can tell them what to do by pressing buttons you'd normally use to drive with or you would pull out weapons or stuff like that with a with a command cross(explaned below) that lets you choose from different actions to do in the car, with or you would pull out weapons or stuff like that with a with a command cross, you have a command cross that lets you choose from different actions to do in different situations, example- you head out on foot in a police chase and then the D-pad turns into a comand cross with several different actions, press UP on the D-pad to show them your badge, this lets you show them you're a cop, and they either let you go or take your weapons(depending on how much crime and stuff you did), press D-pad DOWN to surrender, this means you either get a ticket or go to jail, when going to jail a command cross appears, if you had a well hidden weapon you can use it to get your self out of the mess,(back to the first scenario) if you press LEFT on the D-pad you will do a fake out, you will pretend to be surrendering but if you hid your weapon you can pull it out at the last second and make a mess of things, if you press RIGHT on the D-pad you will do another fake out, but you will flop yourself to the ground and play dead or wounded, and like the other fake out move you can pull out any weapons you hid, you can turn on and off headlights blinkers and tail lights, a lot of vehicles have their own special action, ETC.

13. Better cheats, fly, invicible(in undercover), ETC.

14. Unlockable stuff. You can unlock other characters to play with in undercover and T-A-R like Jericho, Tobias, Lomaz, a gengster, a S.W.A.T. guy with all his gear and stuff, a police man, aand each guy you unlock has their own special vehicle to unlock too(but you can use the vehicles with anyone), ETC.

Well, that's all I got for now.

[Wheel_Man_54]

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[Awesometroid]

What? It would be awesome, have you ever seen how to flip out a butterfly knife? It looks cool when you do it.

[matt__jon]

I want to be able to put several propane tanks and other explosives in my car trunk and seats, and drive it into a traffic jam at full speed.

[Stuntman]

Driver 4 not on PS3 makes ma a saaaad panda :-(

[Awesometroid]

Why? I don't want to wait any longer than I have to. Besides, If it's an awesome game, then who cares, I'm sure they've learned from their mistakes and are gonna try to make something we all want.

[john cena]

Another feature is so that all the vehicles in the game have real a license.

[The-Necromancer]

Oh man I was getting to much off topic with my posts. And I haven't gave ideas for Driver 4 in months. Even though it doesn't matter because Reflections never takes our ideas no matter how great they are. Ok I will type down my ideas anyway.

If Reflections will put a city in Driver 4 that would snow, make sure it will snow. And when it snows, the only vehicles that should be driving around in the city should be AWD and FWD vehicles. NO RWD vehicles, because RWD vehicles drive horrible in snow (and obviously not motorcycles). *Make sure every vehicle has a different drivetrain.*

Maybe there should be storms but not Hurricanes, tornados, or Earthquakes. But thunderstorms, blizzards, Hail, Gales. You know that stuff.

There should be at least 115 vehicles. Any number greater than or equal to 115. Sedans, coupes, convertables, SUVs, sports cars, etc.

The vehicles should be much faster and better acceleration, like in San Andreas, the handling is great. Don't make some of the vehicles have the same speed. And before all of that don't modify the cop cars that when a cop is following you in a Ford GT 40 or a Lamborgini it can out run you. And when you drive the cop car it is as slow as hell.

On some vehicles there should be rust, depends on mostly the age. Also like what XT said on some cars of the same one there should be different spoilers, fenders, and other accesions.

I think you should pimp out your car in D4. I would love to do that:D:cool:.

I don't want the cops to be so strict in the game. If you just go through a red light they chase you. That's a little harsh for a game in my opinion. In real life that's how it is but it's too struct for a video game.

You should be able to do atleast a little damage to some infrastructure. Like if you are driving a semi-truck at 80 mph and ram into a brick building it should do some damage to it and maybe you could also drive right thru the building like in the movies. Now that would be awsome, and my enthusiasm would go thru the roof.

There should be plenty of more weapons. Like for example melee weapons: police batons, baseball bats, golf clubs, metal pipes, knife, katana, butcher knife.
Short range weapons: shotgun, auto shotgun, sawed of shotgun, pistol, silenced pistol, double barreled shotgun.
Medium range weapons: M60, minigun, 9mm MG, SMG, Covert SMG.
Long range weapons: Sniper Rifles (M82-A1, PSG-1, M90), M16, M4.
Explosive weapons: Rocket launcer, Homing launcer, grenade launcher, C4.

You should be able to double wield guns in the game. Or like what MJ said, "there should be a cheat for double wielding". Well I say there should be 'atleast' a cheat for that.

There should most definately be suppressed weaponary in the game, so people wouldn't hear the gunshot.

Pedestrians should be able to talk to other pedestrians. In Driv3r that didn't happen.

You should run much faster in Driver 4. It was pathetic that you ran so slow in D3.

I liked the idea in San Andreas that you can excersize and weight lift so you can improve your strength and stamina. You should be able to do that in D4. Eating and drinking was fine for me in SA, but I don't think it was needed. So don't put it in Driver 4. But yes please enable weight lifting with excersizes like for example.
Weight lifting: Bench Press, arm curl, dumbell arm curl, dumbell bench press, squat (I only listed the common ones).
Excersizes: Treadmill, excersize bike (those are pretty much the only stamina improving excersizes that I know). Or you could just go do gassers or just run for a while like what I do to get in shape.

And most importantly, ***FINISH THE GAME***.

Ok now I'm all out of ideas for now I'll see if I can come up with other ideas later.

[Wheel_Man_54]

one thing that i would actually like to see is a day and night cycle in TAR so its not like your stuck in the same exact time the entire time you play the game without having to quit the game and go back to change it from day to night. but id still like it to be where you can still pick the time of day you want to start playing

[john cena]

Originally posted by The-Necromancer
Oh man I was getting to much off topic with my posts. And I haven't gave ideas for Driver 4 in months. Even though it doesn't matter because Reflections never takes our ideas no matter how great they are. Ok I will type down my ideas anyway.

If Reflections will put a city in Driver 4 that would snow, make sure it will snow. And when it snows, the only vehicles that should be driving around in the city should be AWD and FWD vehicles. NO RWD vehicles, because RWD vehicles drive horrible in snow (and obviously not motorcycles). *Make sure every vehicle has a different drivetrain.*

Maybe there should be storms but not Hurricanes, tornados, or Earthquakes. But thunderstorms, blizzards, Hail, Gales. You know that stuff.

There should be at least 115 vehicles. Any number greater than or equal to 115. Sedans, coupes, convertables, SUVs, sports cars, etc.

The vehicles should be much faster and better acceleration, like in San Andreas, the handling is great. Don't make some of the vehicles have the same speed. And before all of that don't modify the cop cars that when a cop is following you in a Ford GT 40 or a Lamborgini it can out run you. And when you drive the cop car it is as slow as hell.

On some vehicles there should be rust, depends on mostly the age. Also like what XT said on some cars of the same one there should be different spoilers, fenders, and other accesions.

I think you should pimp out your car in D4. I would love to do that:D:cool:.

I don't want the cops to be so strict in the game. If you just go through a red light they chase you. That's a little harsh for a game in my opinion. In real life that's how it is but it's too struct for a video game.

You should be able to do atleast a little damage to some infrastructure. Like if you are driving a semi-truck at 80 mph and ram into a brick building it should do some damage to it and maybe you could also drive right thru the building like in the movies. Now that would be awsome, and my enthusiasm would go thru the roof.

There should be plenty of more weapons. Like for example melee weapons: police batons, baseball bats, golf clubs, metal pipes, knife, katana, butcher knife.
Short range weapons: shotgun, auto shotgun, sawed of shotgun, pistol, silenced pistol, double barreled shotgun.
Medium range weapons: M60, minigun, 9mm MG, SMG, Covert SMG.
Long range weapons: Sniper Rifles (M82-A1, PSG-1, M90), M16, M4.
Explosive weapons: Rocket launcer, Homing launcer, grenade launcher, C4.

You should be able to double wield guns in the game. Or like what MJ said, "there should be a cheat for double wielding". Well I say there should be 'atleast' a cheat for that.

There should most definately be suppressed weaponary in the game, so people wouldn't hear the gunshot.

Pedestrians should be able to talk to other pedestrians. In Driv3r that didn't happen.

You should run much faster in Driver 4. It was pathetic that you ran so slow in D3.

I liked the idea in San Andreas that you can excersize and weight lift so you can improve your strength and stamina. You should be able to do that in D4. Eating and drinking was fine for me in SA, but I don't think it was needed. So don't put it in Driver 4. But yes please enable weight lifting with excersizes like for example.
Weight lifting: Bench Press, arm curl, dumbell arm curl, dumbell bench press, squat (I only listed the common ones).
Excersizes: Treadmill, excersize bike (those are pretty much the only stamina improving excersizes that I know). Or you could just go do gassers or just run for a while like what I do to get in shape.

And most importantly, ***FINISH THE GAME***.

Ok now I'm all out of ideas for now I'll see if I can come up with other ideas later.
I think that instead of just one season there should be all of the seasons in the game. I don't think a pimp feature would matter and it would just be stupid for a cop to do such a thing although I would love to see a customization feature (for every vehicle) in the game.Weight lifting? Yes I think it sounds okay, but maybe also some other stuff too like toning (hell yes), but that feature should only be in take a ride mode because in undercover you're supposed to do missions not excercise, although it would be cool to do it in take a ride mode, especially if you were able to increase his strength, endurance(by punching bags in take a ride mode), speed ( by toning your feet and practicing to run on a treadmill of course, and countering (by practicing to dodge someone's attacks). Then you would be able to upgrade your strength, endurance, speed, countering and use them for undercover mode whenever.

[xtsubarublazin]

Originally posted by stuntdriver
Cat & Mouse anyone? :D



You've got yourself a deal :up: ;)

[The-Necromancer]

Originally posted by john cena
Although I would love to see a customization feature (for every vehicle) in the game.Weight lifting? Yes I think it sounds okay, but maybe also some other stuff too like toning (hell yes), but that feature should only be in take a ride mode because in undercover you're supposed to do missions not excercise, although it would be cool to do it in take a ride mode, especially if you were able to increase his strength, endurance(by punching bags in take a ride mode), speed ( by toning your feet and practicing to run on a treadmill of course, and countering (by practicing to dodge someone's attacks). Then you would be able to upgrade your strength, endurance, speed, countering and use them for undercover mode whenever.
Lifting weights and toning would for surely be a great option to have in the game:up: . Ok JC, do you know what gassers are? Bagh, I'll just tell you. When I was on the football team we had to do gassers to get in shape. Gassers are when you run back and forth. For us we had to do it 45 yards, but it wouldn't have to be that long in the game. 30 yards would be good enough. That is probably the best drill or excersize to get in shape, trust me. And the best way to get stronger is to do free weights. Toning, hmmm, you mean like some football and boxing drills, those two sports have the best toning drills:up: .

[john cena]

Yeah I guess you can put it that way. That feature would be great and another toning feature that would be great maybe like one to increase your submission moves like Chris Benoit he tones his legs and arms in gym and it helps increase his submission like for when doing the Crippler Crossface or Sharp Shooter.

[Bud Ugly]

I think D4 should concentrate on the driving once again. I realize they probably won't get away from on-foot missions but I think it was a bit overdone in D3. The driving is what matters and should be handled that way. Remember how much fun D1 was? And heck, we couldn't even get out of the damn car back then! The missions could use some a little more excitement and diversity.

As far as an actual wishlist of stuff, hmm lemme see.

- Keep improving the car physics
- Give them more detachable parts when they crash
- Improve the storylines, give them more drama and suspense
- Use North American cities next time
- Quite honestly, I preferred it when it was more of a period game (70's themed)
- More realistic Police response to thetraffic violations
- I miss time-transition missions (starting at night and slowly turning to day, or vice-versa)

Thats about I all I can think of right now.

[xtsubarublazin]

Wow, a veteran Driver...er ;)

[albrozdud3]

AC/DC's "Highway to Hell" should be the opening theme. :up: :D

[john cena]

That's just what it needs Bud Ugly, but of course we all can't forget that the story is undercover so it does need some violence to go with the game too. I would love to see:
- a bit more vehicles, which also look as impressive as the ones from Driv3r
- most of the cars from driver, driver 2, & driv3r
- more weapons(basically all the best or as many of the best 70s weapons as possible)
- much better enhanced graphics( that are almost as good as the PS3's or Xbox 360's)
- better multiplayer modes,
-more missions in Undercover mode like about 70-100 missions because I guess one city is enough to having at least 80 or 90 missions. The missions should look as good as driver's and driver 2's as well as driv3r's, but alot more impressive and more realistic.
- Much better ai, which is smart enough to take cover, take different paths like alleys and more to get away from cops, from you, or even catch up with you as well as it would be a good way to outsmart you. AI should be nearly as smart as you and your character.
- The film director mode should look alot more impressive than driv3r's and maybe should have a couple of new features.
- Online should include deatmatches on the streets of new york by either ramming each other in cars, running over someone, shooting someone, blowing up someone in a car, or many other ways to killing your opponent(s). Even a survival mode would be cool trying to survive your opponents and killing all your opponents. Maybe online should feature several different gameplay modes.
- Co-op would be an awesome new way to play Undercover mode.
- Damage on environments, vehicles, and people should look alot more realistic.
- Past glitches from the driver series should be eliminated.
- Maybe some more playable characters.
- Alot more road than or as many like putting driv3r's cities together to form one huge city. There should be as many districts, maybe even more than san andreas's cities or even more than 500 miles of road,which i think was how big True Crime Streets of LA's city was.There shouldn't be any parts of New York left out.
- Undercover mode should feature 50% shooting and 50% driving to make the story seem really good.
- Real time like 24hours in the game.
- Weather effects like raining, thunder storms , as well as more.
- The sky should look very realistic maybe a bit more realistic than in San Andreas.
- More songs should be in the game. Maybe all the songs from driver through driv3r as well as like 30-50 more.
- Improve the things the driver fans really loved and maybe add some more stuff to the things, which will seem more realistic and will add alot more to it than it ever was.
- A stealth engine(maybe that was made by themselves), which should be taken in alot of work towards(maybe almost as much work that was put into Splinter Cell 3 Chaos Theory & or Metal Gear Solid 3). There should be stealthy missions that also should involve driving and shooting. A couple of stealth moves should put into the game.
- The ability to crounch and walk stealthly like in Splinter Cell.
- Realistic shadow effects and lighting effects (fits good with powerful graphics).
- The driving should be as realistic or even more realistic than GT4's.
- The crashes should look just as good or even better than Burnout 3's or the next Burnout game's.
- The explosions should look way more realistic than ever.
- The firing range and accuracy rate of every weapon in the game should be very realistic.
- The people who walk on the streets should be chating, sitting down, walking to work, and should do as many more realistic things on the streets as possible. They should be walking around the block for 1 hr they should go somewhere like to a store, house , apartment, etc.
- The pedestrians in the vehicles should drive to one place like their house, a apartment, their job, etc. Then they should go wherever, but not drive around one place all the time.
- There should be alot of places to go into like stores, police departments, fire departments, apartments, houses, buildings, and more. There should be alot more explorable exteriors and interiors in the city than in Driv3r's cities.
- All the buildings should now have roofs.

[matt__jon]

Bud Ugly! Welcome back.

Its gonna be hard to get PS3/X360 graphics running on a PS2 or Xbox.

Not that I have one, but they should do a Cube version for D4 like they originally said they would for D3.

[The-Necromancer]

Originally posted by albrozdud3
AC/DC's "Highway to Hell" should be the opening theme. :up: :D
Lol, yeah it would fit quite good in D4. Welcome to the Jungle was a perfect opening theme for San Andreas. And I like that song too. I can't think of any song that would be better than that one. I don't know too much about classic rock songs. You, XT, or PM would most likely be the best at that.

[Bud Ugly]

Thanks for the welcome back, matt_john! I'm both surprised and NOT to see you still here, LOL

Being the Driver Guru that you are, what are your thoughts on what D4 might be like, now that Edmonson is gone? And if you know, who's in charge at Reflections now?

[The-Necromancer]

Originally posted by Bud Ugly
Thanks for the welcome back, matt_john! I'm both surprised and NOT to see you still here, LOL

Being the Driver Guru that you are, what are your thoughts on what D4 might be like, now that Edmonson is gone? And if you know, who's in charge at Reflections now?
Huh, when did you leave?

[matt__jon]

Not sure who's in charge, I guess the next guy in order would be, lets hope he knows what he's doing. After D3, I've lost a lot of hope for the series, especially with San Andreas' new gameplay casting such a huge shadow over D3's. I think this one might be different though, because people have different disagreements over games, maybe the guy who's in charge disagreed with Edmonsons old ways and the Driver series can make a quantum leap forward, but I doubt it will be much of a leap, being only a year or so later.

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by matt__jon
Not sure who's in charge, I guess the next guy in order would be, lets hope he knows what he's doing. After D3, I've lost a lot of hope for the series, especially with San Andreas' new gameplay casting such a huge shadow over D3's. I think this one might be different though, because people have different disagreements over games, maybe the guy who's in charge disagreed with Edmonsons old ways and the Driver series can make a quantum leap forward, but I doubt it will be much of a leap, being only a year or so later.

In the latest issue of Game Informer, they noted that Reflections admitted Driv3r failed because it tried to chase the glory of GTA and fell short. Hopefully this means they realized what they did wrong and won't screw up Driver 4.

[matt__jon]

Hopefully.

About songs, a good old rock song for driving would be "Born to be Wild"

Led Zeppelins faster songs would go good, like Achilles Last Stand, Immigrant Song, Rock and Roll (from the Cadillac commercials) others who's names I can't remember

Black Sabbaths Crazy Train (No Little Jon version PLEASE) is good, cause its like a crazy drivers song, I guess

Jimi Hendrix's "Fire" (Let me stand next to your fire)

Fast old rock songs go good with Driver, Crazy Train isn't that fast, but its a good song. Other 70's songs would be good. Theres only one problem, will they let them use their music? Led Zepplin doesn't let many people use their songs, apparently. I can't think of any right now off the top of my head.

[Bud Ugly]

Crazy Train is Ozzy, not Black Sabbath. And yes, there IS a difference. LOL

I'm gonna go look into my music archives and see what tune I can find that would be a good Driver song.

[matt__jon]

Really? Oh well. Iron Man is also another good song, sounds like its about a robot, I need to listen to the words more to make sure, but it gets fast in one part, so it could work out.

Isn't Born to be Wild Steppenwolf? I can't remember and the music program takes too long to load to make it worth my time.

[albrozdud3]

Originally posted by matt__jon
Really? Oh well. Iron Man is also another good song, sounds like its about a robot, I need to listen to the words more to make sure, but it gets fast in one part, so it could work out.

It's about a guy who time travels, gets turned into iron, tries to save humanity but then ends up destroying it. :bulb:

Isn't Born to be Wild Steppenwolf?

Yes.

[Bud Ugly]

OK, so here's a few songs that I thought were quite good at setting a mood.

Motorhead – "Stay Clean"

AC/DC – "Night Prowler"

Al Di Meola – "Race with Devil on Spanish Highway"

Bomba – "Jet City"

ZZ Top – "Cheap Sunglasses"

Pat Benatar – "In the Heat of the Night"