Hedorah vs Biollante

[Zilor]

So between the two monsters, which do you think would win?

Both have a terrestrial component, Biollante a kaiju representation of Mother Nature and its power, and Hedorah a representation of the destructive force of man on the world... Which would be the victor?

[PickleGod]

In a way, this battle is like reality. Man is polluting and killing the plants. Hedorah would win by far.

1. He can fly.

2. He spreads poison when he flies.

[Lewis Dodgson]

Over kill. Hedorah can only be beaten by being totaly and utterly dried out. Hell, Hedorah can just fly over Biolante, fall on her, decompose her while she can do nothing to stop it.

[PickleGod]

Speaking of Hedorah, I haven't seen the whole movie. I watched one or two battles, then I had to go to a family get-together. How is Hedorah formed? Radiation mixing w/ some toxic waste or something?

[Laserwing]

Originally posted by PickleGod
Speaking of Hedorah, I haven't seen the whole movie. I watched one or two battles, then I had to go to a family get-together. How is Hedorah formed? Radiation mixing w/ some toxic waste or something?
He's an alien lifeform. There are actually quite a few of them that feed on the polution and fuse together to become bigger and bigger.

[PickleGod]

Wow!:eek: I was way off. I'll have to see all of Godzilla v.s. Hedorah sometime.

[Leunames_One]

Biollante is part-Godzilla, and in the movie Godzilla vs. Hedorah Godzilla is nearly killed due to all the polution etc. Biollante, having a more natural component (rose/plant) than Godzilla, would stand no chance.

[Timothy2035]

Biollante would win. When Godzilla faced Hedorah, it was not the more powerful version of Godzilla 90's. That older version of Godzilla was easily wounded. Even lightning could harm him. The Godzilla of 90's could withstand heavy fire, and the weapons were more advanced of the time, such as the 2 Super-X attack planes and facing the likes of the MechaGodzilla 2 and MechaKingGhidorah. Although smog and pollution was great and devastating as seen in the Hedorah film, the Godzilla of the 90's was re-awoken in the Biollante film where it was hibernating in a volcano. Hot lava can and will destroy just about any matter. So in essence, Hedorah could not withstand the temps. Biollante being part Godzilla could some extemes, as seen in the movie it even used intense heat to speed up the growth of the nuclear bacteria injected into Godzilla's body. It also withstood some blasting of readioactive breath by G (although repeated blasts would cripple her). Biollante is very large and ominious too. Godzilla looked like a child in compairison to it's size. So Hedorah may have an advantage in flying, but it has to get close enough to make its pollution work, and if it did, the plant arms would drag it down to the ground. Being part plant will also allow Biollante to filter many of those toxins, as is done so everyday by trees and other plantlife. Biollante being derived from the rose plant has an advantage in being hardy too. Roses can return year after year under tough conditions to bloom again. So taking a scientific approach, Biollante is the clear winner. Not initially will Biollante be a dominant kaiju, but in the mid part of the battle, flower power reigns supreme. ;)

[Lewis Dodgson]

Originally posted by Timothy2035
Biollante would win. When Godzilla faced Hedorah, it was not the more powerful version of Godzilla 90's. That older version of Godzilla was easily wounded. Even lightning could harm him. The Godzilla of 90's could withstand heavy fire, and the weapons were more advanced of the time, such as the 2 Super-X attack planes and facing the likes of the MechaGodzilla 2 and MechaKingGhidorah. Although smog and pollution was great and devastating as seen in the Hedorah film, the Godzilla of the 90's was re-awoken in the Biollante film where it was hibernating in a volcano. Hot lava can and will destroy just about any matter. So in essence, Hedorah could not withstand the temps. Biollante being part Godzilla could some extemes, as seen in the movie it even used intense heat to speed up the growth of the nuclear bacteria injected into Godzilla's body. It also withstood some blasting of readioactive breath by G (although repeated blasts would cripple her). Biollante is very large and ominious too. Godzilla looked like a child in compairison to it's size. So Hedorah may have an advantage in flying, but it has to get close enough to make its pollution work, and if it did, the plant arms would drag it down to the ground. Being part plant will also allow Biollante to filter many of those toxins, as is done so everyday by trees and other plantlife. Biollante being derived from the rose plant has an advantage in being hardy too. Roses can return year after year under tough conditions to bloom again. So taking a scientific approach, Biollante is the clear winner. Not initially will Biollante be a dominant kaiju, but in the mid part of the battle, flower power reigns supreme. ;) No offence, but your an idiot. Hedorah can only be beated by COMPLETELY DRYING HIM OUT. Hedorah is one of the most powerful kaiju ever created. The only reason Showa Goji, whos beam melted a MOUNTAIN, and instantly steamed water( Instantly, and melting a mountain is pretty good ), is because he had HUMAN help. Showa Goji is so under-estimated because of all the damn heisi Godzilla, GMK Godzilla fan-boys..

[Timothy2035]

Originally posted by Lewis Dodgson
No offence, but your an idiot. Hedorah can only be beated by COMPLETELY DRYING HIM OUT. Hedorah is one of the most powerful kaiju ever created. The only reason Showa Goji, whos beam melted a MOUNTAIN, and instantly steamed water( Instantly, and melting a mountain is pretty good ), is because he had HUMAN help. Showa Goji is so under-estimated because of all the damn heisi Godzilla, GMK Godzilla fan-boys..



No offense taken. However you made the comparison between an "outdated monster" to a more "modern time" kaiju. So my point of view is actually valid, based evenmore on what you just replied. Human help or not, Hedorah couldn't face the Godzilla of today (90's version that faced Biollante), and if Biollante faced the older Godzilla (that fought Hedorah), she would win. If you recall, that Godzilla was severely wounded when fighting Megalon & Gigan (note the grenade explosion on blood vessel areas) and being pinned down when facing Gigan & Ghidorah by the alien laser "Godzilla tower". SO the older Godzilla couldn't help itself from being eaten or chomped on by Biollante. That old G would be turned to compost. As far as the drying out goes, Hedorah can be dried out by the liquid mucous that Biollante sprayed and the liquid would adhere to Hedorah clogging up its flying propulsion. It would have to land and the arms could grab it and bring it close while she turns up the thermal temps. Continuing to spray the liquid and the drying would cause Hedorah to turn to powder. You probably have seen it in a science experiment

[Timothy2035]

Originally posted by Lewis Dodgson
No offence, but your an idiot. Hedorah can only be beated by COMPLETELY DRYING HIM OUT. Hedorah is one of the most powerful kaiju ever created. The only reason Showa Goji, whos beam melted a MOUNTAIN, and instantly steamed water( Instantly, and melting a mountain is pretty good ), is because he had HUMAN help. Showa Goji is so under-estimated because of all the damn heisi Godzilla, GMK Godzilla fan-boys..



No offense taken. However you made the comparison between an "outdated monster" to a more "modern time" kaiju. So my point of view is actually valid, based evenmore on what you just replied. Human help or not, Hedorah couldn't face the Godzilla of today (90's version that faced Biollante), and if Biollante faced the older Godzilla (that fought Hedorah), she would win. If you recall, that Godzilla was severely wounded when fighting Megalon & Gigan (note the grenade explosion on blood vessel areas) and being pinned down when facing Gigan & Ghidorah by the alien laser "Godzilla tower". SO the older Godzilla couldn't help itself from being eaten or chomped on by Biollante. That old G would be turned to compost. As far as the drying out goes, Hedorah can be dried out by the liquid mucous that Biollante sprayed and the liquid would adhere to Hedorah clogging up its flying propulsion. It would have to land and the arms could grab it and bring it close while she turns up the thermal temps. Continuing to spray the liquid and the drying would cause Hedorah to turn to powder. You probably have seen it in a science experiment.

[KingCaesar]

Biollante cant do any burning attacks. Only bit him, which wont do anything. Sorry, but Biollante wont beat Hedorah.

[Jon Leo B.]

Hedorah has this one in the bag.

[Lewis Dodgson]

Originally posted by Timothy2035
No offense taken. However you made the comparison between an "outdated monster" to a more "modern time" kaiju. So my point of view is actually valid, based evenmore on what you just replied. Human help or not, Hedorah couldn't face the Godzilla of today (90's version that faced Biollante), and if Biollante faced the older Godzilla (that fought Hedorah), she would win. If you recall, that Godzilla was severely wounded when fighting Megalon & Gigan (note the grenade explosion on blood vessel areas) and being pinned down when facing Gigan & Ghidorah by the alien laser "Godzilla tower". SO the older Godzilla couldn't help itself from being eaten or chomped on by Biollante. That old G would be turned to compost. As far as the drying out goes, Hedorah can be dried out by the liquid mucous that Biollante sprayed and the liquid would adhere to Hedorah clogging up its flying propulsion. It would have to land and the arms could grab it and bring it close while she turns up the thermal temps. Continuing to spray the liquid and the drying would cause Hedorah to turn to powder. You probably have seen it in a science experiment What Biolante spits, is ACID, Hedorah has acid up the ass. And, hedorah can do the same thing Destroya can, turn into molecules. He could warp into micro-size, and reform on Biolante, of which she will decompose. Why is there so little respect for Showa kaiju? I mean, Gigan could easly whoop Heisi KG, Anguiris could very well kill 90's Goji, The Tooth and Claw Showa Kaiju are so much more powerful then there heisi counter-parts, its not funny.

[DrunkYoshimasta]

Originally posted by Lewis Dodgson
What Biolante spits, is ACID, Hedorah has acid up the ass. And, hedorah can do the same thing Destroya can, turn into molecules. He could warp into micro-size, and reform on Biolante, of which she will decompose. Why is there so little respect for Showa kaiju? I mean, Gigan could easly whoop Heisi KG, Anguiris could very well kill 90's Goji, The Tooth and Claw Showa Kaiju are so much more powerful then there heisi counter-parts, its not funny.

woah...I wouldnt go that far. Seriously now I voted for hedorah, may partially because I hope atari is reading and will acknowledge that he be considered in any sequel installments, though in the end it depends on the effects that their projectile attacks have on eachother mainly.
But just so you know Toho did tout Biollante as Godzilla's most powerful opponent up to that point before the movie was released, but I wouldnt use that to decide this anyway since different abilities are being considered.

Angilas could very well kill 90's Godzilla?? I'm no "Heisei fanboy", and Angilas is one of my favorite kaiju. But even I know that he wouldnt stand a chance against any of the heisei Godzilla forms.
If youre basing this on his speed alone, Angilas was practically beaten to death by Mechagodzilla 74, who isnt exactly speedy Gonzalez. Godzilla ranged from 80 to 100 meters tall in the heisei series, and was so massive it would be hard to imagine Angilas even wounding him severely, without even thinking about if regenerative powers are present. You do realize that even if mauled by Angilas somehow, Godzilla still has his nuclear pulse, which he used to blow off one of Ghidorahs heads when coupled with his ray.
While Ill take Showa Rodan over his hesei counterpart, I really dont think that showa Gigan is even on the same level as Hesei KG, who stands over twice as high, and would probably ram Gigan over and stomp on him obliterating him with gravity rays. Even Zone Fighter made short work of Showa Gigan, though Godzilla wailed on him a little earlier. GFW Gigan vs Heisei KG would be a different story however.
It's not a matter of respect for showa kaiju. I think most people feel they are some of the coolest most original creations in the series. But in terms of who'd win a fight without changing stats there's a large difference to overcome.

[Timothy2035]

Originally posted by Lewis Dodgson
What Biolante spits, is ACID, Hedorah has acid up the ass. And, hedorah can do the same thing Destroya can, turn into molecules. He could warp into micro-size, and reform on Biolante, of which she will decompose. Why is there so little respect for Showa kaiju? I mean, Gigan could easly whoop Heisi KG, Anguiris could very well kill 90's Goji, The Tooth and Claw Showa Kaiju are so much more powerful then there heisi counter-parts, its not funny.

What Biollante spits is acid. I don't recall Godzilla having any melting burns. Since when did Hedorah turn to molecules. I believe you need to see the film again in slow motion. Hedorah in the begining stages was like an ooze. Then the ooze flew and took more of a human-like slouchy form. Like I said, and have said, and I thank the other poster reply where it was indicated that Biollante was the most powerful kaiju to date (at the time of the film's release) to face Godzilla. Now let me clear the air: :heart: Not only does the main head of Biollante spray the fluid, but also the tentacle arms. Like I also noted, of course Hedorah is something to reckon with, but since Biollante is a hybrid species, a hybrid has capabilities that either "parent ( in this case gene contributor)" can not have all alone of itself. Now there was a remark that Godzilla had human help, but remember the Godzilla that faced Hedorah used his nuke breath on the smaller pieces of Hedorah and fried it to nothing on the ground. Biollante did withstand some of the blasting of a "powerful" Godzilla. Let it be known that the same Hedorah sprayed pollution and other yuck on the Showa Godzilla, and it did affect him, but he bounced back. Biollante being part Godzilla (and a more powerful one) would recover as well. This is the same Godzilla that was resting in a volcano before being reawoken in Godzilla vs. Biollante. The other Showa version did "NOT EVER" sleep in an active volcano. Hence Biollante could win in a fight against the older Godzilla, and since this is the topic on Biollante vs. Hedorah, Hedorah would loose, in the end. Let it be known that I am not Showa series "hating" on any kaiju of the time. It was the Showa series that got many of us interested in the realm of Godzilla.

[Zilor]

Also, I'd like to point out that plants to not breathe like Godzilla, or Humans do... The noxious gasses of Hedorah would probablly have very little imediate effect on Biollante.

Also, depending on the there strength, it is possible that the vines could strap Hedorah down and hold it in place until it dries out. Also depends on what level of damage the ick of Hedorah can do to the vines.

Hell, being a plant it may be able to absorb and process the moisture of Hedorah, that is if it could stand the toxic levels.

[PickleGod]

First of all, I'd like to congragulate Timothy on his arguments. There were some good points in there. You've mildly changed my outlook. I still think Hedorah would win, but now I think it would be a closer battle.

[Godzilla 50's]

I like to post, i dont know if you would like to hear from me but here i go. Hedorah has polution acid Biollante spits is acid too but a stronger version,whatch the uncut version of Godzilla vs Biollante secant he part godzilla 90 also he a plant, plant are the natral polution cleaner so he a super polution cleaner Hell, being a plant it may be able to absorb and process the moisture of Hedorah, that is if it could stand the toxic levels whitch it could becuase it part plant and it is also part godzilla and godzilla can heal real fast plus he got godzilla breath and can at will turn to molecules and pollen and can slowly travel to the ocen so he use the water depolut him self .i also remeber godzilla graping him all he would have to do in the first place is kill Hedorah brain godzilla does that once he weakend,that what thoe round orb thing were,aslo in the GDAM all he did was weaken the energy levels of the monster and could be killed easily so Biollante on the other hand like most plant doesnt die easiley take weeds. another thing it Hedorah,the smog monster not Hedorah,the acid rain monster if it was then Hedorah,would when hands down but it an't so becuase Biollante a plant and plant eat smog which is high level c02 and 10% other gases. It takes acid water to hurt plant not acid mist which he makes which would kill a dinosuar are a human are a dog are cat but not a 600 foot plant that eat meat...

[Timothy2035]

Originally posted by Godzilla 50's
I like to post, i dont know if you would like to hear from me but here i go. Hedorah has polution acid Biollante spits is acid too but a stronger version,whatch the uncut version of Godzilla vs Biollante secant he part godzilla 90 also he a plant, plant are the natral polution cleaner so he a super polution cleaner Hell, being a plant it may be able to absorb and process the moisture of Hedorah, that is if it could stand the toxic levels whitch it could becuase it part plant and it is also part godzilla and godzilla can heal real fast plus he got godzilla breath and can at will turn to molecules and pollen and can slowly travel to the ocen so he use the water depolut him self .i also remeber godzilla graping him all he would have to do in the first place is kill Hedorah brain godzilla does that once he weakend,that what thoe round orb thing were,aslo in the GDAM all he did was weaken the energy levels of the monster and could be killed easily so Biollante on the other hand like most plant doesnt die easiley take weeds. another thing it Hedorah,the smog monster not Hedorah,the acid rain monster if it was then Hedorah,would when hands down but it an't so becuase Biollante a plant and plant eat smog which is high level c02 and 10% other gases. It takes acid water to hurt plant not acid mist which he makes which would kill a dinosuar are a human are a dog are cat but not a 600 foot plant that eat meat...

Thank you for your comment. Godzilla 50's. Very well thought-out and it shows some scientific learning. I applaud you. Clearly Biollante is the winner. There are no idiots who believe this. Science is on display when you refer to these two monsters duking it out. Besides, Biollante's arms could do a serious beating. Like a bullwhip!!! :haha:

[Lewis Dodgson]

Hedorah is made of SLUDGE. Physical attacks would only splatter him. He is almost invinceable. You need to dry him from the inside out, not the outside in. YOU timothy need to learn science, and Godzilla50...just dont post, i cant decipher it if my life depended on it.

[Godzilla 50's]

Dude you dont have to dry Hedorah out. Shoot it in the head like zombies think of Hedorah has a big Zombie damn near impossible to kill, but one good round in the head bring down the Ghoul.So lewis watch Godzilla vs Hedorah and pay atttion this time during the end When hedra die the brain is left over alon whith the beging cretore which atches it self tow polution to grow.So if godzilla burn the living heck out of his head he would die instantly no fuss no mess Biollante wins the world is save and lews is proved rong and is a ass hole....sorry timothy for lews stupidy!!!

[Lewis Dodgson]

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What you just said clarifies you as a the supreme n00b..

[Godzilla 50's]

No it just proves your in ass... and that Biollante could kick Hedorah ass any day of the week while asleep hafe drunk whith godzilla attack him durning a thunder storm.

[Lewis Dodgson]

Originally posted by Godzilla 50's
No it just proves your in ass... and that Biollante could kick Hedorah ass any day of the week while asleep hafe drunk whith godzilla attack him durning a thunder storm. Hedorah is the perfect kaiju to kill Biollante. Oh, and, its an ass, not " in ass ".

[Godzilla 50's]

Sorry chum,but ok your an ass and Hedorah is a big stuped wussey could even kill the first godzilla who was mortle.Face it he big stuped lump Dog crap he should be put on side lines.i mean look they took her out of both game becuase it is so hard to creat her greatness....she the perfect kaiju

[Zilor]

Originally posted by Godzilla 50's
I like to post, i dont know if you would like to hear from me but here i go. Hedorah has polution acid Biollante spits is acid too but a stronger version,whatch the uncut version of Godzilla vs Biollante secant he part godzilla 90 also he a plant, plant are the natral polution cleaner so he a super polution cleaner Hell, being a plant it may be able to absorb and process the moisture of Hedorah, that is if it could stand the toxic levels whitch it could becuase it part plant and it is also part godzilla and godzilla can heal real fast plus he got godzilla breath and can at will turn to molecules and pollen and can slowly travel to the ocen so he use the water depolut him self .i also remeber godzilla graping him all he would have to do in the first place is kill Hedorah brain godzilla does that once he weakend,that what thoe round orb thing were,aslo in the GDAM all he did was weaken the energy levels of the monster and could be killed easily so Biollante on the other hand like most plant doesnt die easiley take weeds. another thing it Hedorah,the smog monster not Hedorah,the acid rain monster if it was then Hedorah,would when hands down but it an't so becuase Biollante a plant and plant eat smog which is high level c02 and 10% other gases. It takes acid water to hurt plant not acid mist which he makes which would kill a dinosuar are a human are a dog are cat but not a 600 foot plant that eat meat...

Actually I really would prefer if you never posted again, your incoherent, mean spirited, insulting, and quick to anger. The sooner you are banned and removed from the forum the better we will all be.

[Zilor]

Originally posted by Godzilla 50's
Dude you dont have to dry Hedorah out. Shoot it in the head like zombies think of Hedorah has a big Zombie damn near impossible to kill, but one good round in the head bring down the Ghoul.So lewis watch Godzilla vs Hedorah and pay atttion this time during the end When hedra die the brain is left over alon whith the beging cretore which atches it self tow polution to grow.So if godzilla burn the living heck out of his head he would die instantly no fuss no mess Biollante wins the world is save and lews is proved rong and is a ass hole....sorry timothy for lews stupidy!!!

There is one problem with your theory... Those were Eggs not Brains... And Hedorah isnt a damned Zombie...

God you are probablly the stupidest "Godzilla Fan" ever. You know nothing about Godzilla.