Mishap in the Happiest Place on Earth!

[RCTTalk]

According to the local Detroit news I saw, it appears that a float during the Disneyland parade slid off course and injured three people, knocking one woman unconscious. No fatalities. Just thought I'd like to bring this up because some people live near there.:bored:

[carowindsfreak1]

I know they need better control on those things.

[Duane]

Eisner's blunders are not funny anymore.

[RTCnoob384]

one guy got crushed to death under one of those floats.Here is the new park logo


Disneyland:The Deadliest Place on Earth

[disneyaniac]

Yes a float went out of control injuring 4 guests.

[RCTTalk]

Originally posted by RTCnoob384
one guy got crushed to death under one of those floats.Here is the new park logo


Disneyland:The Deadliest Place on Earth

Actually that happened in Disney World and it happened behind the gates so no guests saw it.

[Voodoopcfreak]

Originally posted by RCTTalk
Actually that happened in Disney World and it happened behind the gates so no guests saw it.

No this is not true. It happened at Disneyland by Small World. The Aladdin float is a high speed little float and it was wet on the floor and the tires did not grip and slid barely hitting the people. 2 of the 3 people walked away and the person who was injured was not injured very much. So it was not anyones fault except the rain.

[Harpo]

I suspect there's a bit of confusion regarding what incident is being discussed. If I'm reading everything correctly, I think RCTTalk was referring to the incident at Walt Disney World where a costumed character fell off the float and was crushed to death while the float was still within the staging area, which happened in February 2004. That's different from the issue in California where the float slid out of control on the parade route. A news report about that incident, in December, 2004, follows:

Dec. 28th, 2004 -- As the Christmas Fantasy Parade at Disneyland wound to a close last night, an Aladdin float drifted out of line and hit four spectators.

According to Anaheim fire Capt. Jamie Hirsch, the float turned instead of going straight, causing a fake piece of carpet to collide with the four people. Three of the spectators received minor injuries and were treated at the scene. A fourth guest was knocked unconscious and taken to a nearby hospital.


Though the precise cause of the accident is unknown, many suspect that the wet ground, caused by a powerful storm that struck California yesterday, may be to blame.

[Voodoopcfreak]

Originally posted by Harpo
I suspect there's a bit of confusion regarding what incident is being discussed. If I'm reading everything correctly, I think RCTTalk was referring to the incident at Walt Disney World where a costumed character fell off the float and was crushed to death while the float was still within the staging area, which happened in February 2004. That's different from the issue in California where the float slid out of control on the parade route. A news report about that incident, in December, 2004, follows:

Dec. 28th, 2004 -- As the Christmas Fantasy Parade at Disneyland wound to a close last night, an Aladdin float drifted out of line and hit four spectators.

According to Anaheim fire Capt. Jamie Hirsch, the float turned instead of going straight, causing a fake piece of carpet to collide with the four people. Three of the spectators received minor injuries and were treated at the scene. A fourth guest was knocked unconscious and taken to a nearby hospital.


Though the precise cause of the accident is unknown, many suspect that the wet ground, caused by a powerful storm that struck California yesterday, may be to blame.


That is 100 percent correct.:)

[RTCnoob384]

but still disney parks are lethal!!!

[Voodoopcfreak]

Originally posted by RTCnoob384
but still disney parks are lethal!!!

Not really. The media just loves to blow things out of proportion because it is Disney.

[Duane]

How many times have the trains on Big Thunder Mountain (CA) been treated like Bumper Cars? Does anyone know if they have reduced it to A three train operation? Eisner :down::down:

[RCTTalk]

Originally posted by Harpo
I suspect there's a bit of confusion regarding what incident is being discussed. If I'm reading everything correctly, I think RCTTalk was referring to the incident at Walt Disney World where a costumed character fell off the float and was crushed to death while the float was still within the staging area, which happened in February 2004. That's different from the issue in California where the float slid out of control on the parade route. A news report about that incident, in December, 2004, follows:

Dec. 28th, 2004 -- As the Christmas Fantasy Parade at Disneyland wound to a close last night, an Aladdin float drifted out of line and hit four spectators.

According to Anaheim fire Capt. Jamie Hirsch, the float turned instead of going straight, causing a fake piece of carpet to collide with the four people. Three of the spectators received minor injuries and were treated at the scene. A fourth guest was knocked unconscious and taken to a nearby hospital.


Though the precise cause of the accident is unknown, many suspect that the wet ground, caused by a powerful storm that struck California yesterday, may be to blame.

Ok, no one seems to understand what I said. I posted this thread about the 4 injuries in Disneyland from the float sliding off course. Then someone said that someone got crushed in Disneyland, which I said actually happened in Disney World.

[RCT2head]

well, from the way i see it, disney is to blame for running the parade on wet ground. they had all oppurunity to postpone or cancel the parade due to the weather, but they did not, causing injuries, albeit minor. that, and if the driver of that float had the ability to see his route, as to which i am not sure if that capability is possible, he should have slowed down more or have avoided the wettest spots, or something. but, if that float runs on a computer program, unmanned, then the operator/person in charge should have made the proper adjustments to ensure such an event couldn't happen.

[Voodoopcfreak]

It is driven by genie who has impared vision through the costume. But I saw the parade recently and he does not drive wild anymore. He drives very well and stays away from the crowd..

[soundgodz]

Why is everything always Eisner's fault? You act like you have a financial stake in the company. How many times has Big Thunder had problems? Much less than you make out. Montazooma's Revenge has killed, so has Hulk, and the Mummy in Orlando as well. The kid who lost his foot on Big Thunder did so partly becuase his mother regretably didn't pay attention when the train paused outside the load platform. Disneyland does need to get their ducks back in line, but it isn't as bad as it might seem, not when so many guests visit during 365 days, unlike most other parks. Come on people, these things we call rides are heavy duty industrial machinery that do injure seriously when people relax their guard while in fun parks.

[RCT2head]

i wasn't blaming eisner... it was probably just a simple misjudgement on the part of the people who actually start and operate the parade, not the president of the company behind it.

[Voodoopcfreak]

Well technically it is Eisners fault for the Big Thunder Accident. He was the one who cut budgets for Disneyland in the first place. This parade accident was not Eisners fault.

[soundgodz]

What I blame Eisner for is not distributing Fahrenheit 911 and loosing $200 million in profits from that film. That's what you can blame him for. You can also blame him for the split between Disney and Spielberg that caused no more Roger Rabbit anything, again costing profits.

[Harpo]

Originally posted by soundgodz
How many times has Big Thunder had problems? Much less than you make out. Montazooma's Revenge has killed, so has Hulk, and the Mummy in Orlando as well. The kid who lost his foot on Big Thunder did so partly becuase his mother regretably didn't pay attention when the train paused outside the load platform.

In the interest of accuracy and fairness...

There have been 2 deaths on record relating to Montezooma's Revenge -- one heart attack (2001), one burst brain aneurysm (2002). The ride itself was not blamed for either one.

There was one death on Revenge of the Mummy, caused by a person falling while entering the ride. Can't really blame maintenance for that one, either.

As for Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, the death was due to cars coming unhooked and derailing. The death was directly due to a severe ride malfunction. Within one year of that incident, the ride crashed 2 more times, once when empty, and once when loaded, resulting in some minor injuries. Those are operational and maintenance issues, which is quite different from the issues surrounding Montezooma's Revenge and Revenge of the Mummy.

I couldn't locate any incidents attributing a fatality to Hulk.

Incidentally, when I visited Walt Disney World in December, staying at the All Star Resorts, the resorts were filthy. Being that they are inexpensive, I wasn't expecting fancy, but, being Disney, I certainly expected clean, and I didn't get it. Sadly, the company is not as good as it once was.

[soundgodz]

Someone came off the Hulk unconcious last year, or possibly 2003, I don't remember. That person then died from heart problems. I'm a bit surprised that the All Stars were dirty last month. I'm a regular on one of the Disney Forums and hadn't picked up any of those rumblings. I stayed at the Contemporary in October and it seemed clean, as did the public areas I was in in other hotels. During my stay at the Beach Club concierrge in 2002, people's room service trays and other food garbage was constantly piling up outside some families rooms. But I might be straying from the topic.

[Harpo]

Well, straying or not, the first room we stayed in was at All-Star Movies, but that room was unacceptably filthy, so we insisted on another room. They moved us to All-Star Music, where the room was still not particularly clean, but it was an improvement, and it was after midnight, so we just accepted it, although I have complained to Disney about it.

I'm very sorry to say that they don't appear to be the first-class operation they used to be, which, no doubt, is part of the reason why Roy Disney is so upset and is calling for the removal of Eisner in his Save Disney website.

[iAMpaste001]

Originally posted by Harpo
I couldn't locate any incidents attributing a fatality to Hulk.


I'm probably remembering incorrectly...but it seems like I remember something about a maintenance worker dying. He tried to jump across the track or walk under the coaster or something and got hit. Even then, it's not the ride's fault. But everything I just said could have been wildly inaccurate so that will need some more research. :haha:

[soundgodz]

As a point of interest and a point of fact, Theme Park Insider has lists and reports on most theme park accidents and deaths. That's http://www.themeparkinsider.com

[Harpo]

The site I usually visit is RideAccidents.com (http://www.rideaccidents.com/). That tends to be a good place to look for park accidents and fatalities.

[BorisTheFish]

The Hulk fatatlity was a heart attack, so again, not really the rides fault