Small Park Competition

[DWWilkin]

A small, balanced, working park...

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For the competiton (Updated 2/22/05):
Adventure theme.

31 by 31 max size (961 squares)

Maximum of each Ride type:
12 Thrill rides
6 Gentle
6 Junior
6 others
3 Coasters

Maximum 18 stalls of various types
Maximum Staff of 18 (And as many vendors as needed)
Maximum of 3 fireworks shows

Park to end day no later than midnight
90% of Paths at ground level

Criteria to win:
1) Best use of Money$$
2) Open park and run without tweaking for 1 year and see a park rating by the judges (taking an aggregate of their scores)
3) Overall total of Excitement
4) Averages of Excitement

Special achievement for highest FPS

Judging categories:
$$ spent to build park
# Guests at end of year 1
List of what guests are doing at end of year 1
List of what guests are thinking at end of year 1
Total profit at end of year 1
Park Value at end of year 1
Company value at end of year 1 (Start with 1000 only for contingency money to pay your staff.)

Find the starter park here:

http://rapidshare.de/files-en/518832/Small_Adventure_Park_water.dat.html

http://img73.exs.cx/img73/7175/smallpark6py.jpg

Comeptition will last for 1 month.
Mulitple entries are allowed.
All entries to be listed or PM submitted to the Judges by midnight March 6th 2005

To upload your park please sign-up (once for all the competitions only) here (http://upload.nicksvideo.com/signup.php).

Site to upload your park at:here (http://upload.nicksvideo.com/upload.php)

Judges are:

DWWilkin
Tikitiki (Judging and Coordinating)
DCWill
RCT3Fanatic (dropped out)
rct3phreak (dropped out)


Current Entrants are: (I will add to this list as entrant post in this thread, or PM or submit entries):

PLatinum
Sniper
wickedfan07
thergothon
I feel Sick
Koaster Kid
HulkLocalNews
ColonelSandurz
SnootyVincent
milkdud (dropped out)
DC Will (became a judge)


DC Will's Park Video :up: :up: :up: (http://rapidshare.de/files/843599/lagoonad.wmv.html)

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Original Post:

I have never participated in a competition before, nor have I ever hosted one, nor ever judged one...

But I would love to see what can be done in a small park of no more then 31 by 31 squares. A small budget, but balanced. Food stalls, shops, thrill rides, a couple coasters, gentle rides, junior rides.

Anyone else???

[Thergothon]

I'm all up for this, but how would we judge who is the winner?

My suggestion is to pick a theme and everyone builds a park around that theme, and then everybody votes at the end as to who has the best park.

S.

[tikitiki]

I'm busy but i'll be a judge!

Cheers Tikitiki

[sniper1263]

This sounds pretty good, but I still think we need a good method to determine the winner. I would suggest using the park rating (obviously), but the park rating is always changing... As with the other stats. Any suggestions?

[DWWilkin]

I would think it would be subjective.

I would love to see an adventure theme small park first, then a space park later, etc...

So if this is the first small park competition how about the adventure theme.

31 by 31 max size

3 Coasters max

12 Thrill rides
6 Gentle
6 Junior
6 others
18 stalls of various types
Staff of 18 (And as many vendors as needed)

Criteria to win:
Best use of Money$$
Open park and run without tweaking for 1 year and see a park rating by the judges (taking an aggregate of their scores)

Overall total of Excitement
Averages of Excitement

How is that for getting the ball rolling.

Oh, and I would be a judge also

[rizzla]

I like to keep things small but... 31x31 sized park, yet three coasters and 30 more rides??? That won't be pretty...

[Thergothon]

Yeah I tend to agree, I think a 64x64 would be better and that is still only a quarter the size of a sandbox park.

And how do you judge the 'best use of money'? Do we start with a fixed amount? Say $1mil?

[RCT3Fanatic]

I voulentier to be a judge!

[DWWilkin]

My idea is for Dinky sized parks. The number of rides again would be a max amount. I tend to doubt that anyone could fit that many in and look nice unless they start building on top of one another and that somehow would not look nice.

There was a small park in West Los Angeles called Kiddy Land (as I recall) when I was growing up. There must have been other small parks across the country. The Santa Monica Pier has a few rides now. The idea is to build within a small confine.

The best use of money can be based on deconstruction. You build with unlimited, and then the judges take your entry and see how much it cost you to build it? Or we do give out $1000000 and then see who turns in the park with the greatest amount left over.

Think Small, themed, efective...

If we want I and the other judges can work on a starting Terrain. For judges I have:

DWWilkin
Tikitiki
RCT3Fanatic

[sniper1263]

One other thing! I think we should place a height restriction on pathways. I'm sure you all know that you can just make your stalls and rides float, and have your pathway just up up up. I say the basic pathway must remain at ground level. I say basic pathway because we should leave room to allow for paths to go up and down.

[DWWilkin]

Some ideas still for comment:
Maximum of 3 fireworks shows
Park to end day no later than midnight
No Research is necessary after the park is completed
You can assign patrol areas to your staff

Special achievement for highest FPS

Judging categories:
$$ spent to build park
# Guests at end of year 1
List of what guests are doing at end of year 1
List of what guests are thinking at end of year 1
Total profit at end of year 1
Park Value at end of year 1
Company value at end of year 1 (Start with 1000 only for contingency money to pay your staff.)

[Milkdud]

How about you or one of the other judges make a scenerio with a fixed amount of money and make everything (rides, stalls, etc) FREE so that way, we can't just use the peeps to gain money to keep building and then see who can make the best 31x31 park with that same amount of money...You can also limit the scenario in other ways such as only allowing 1 or 2 types of coaster or other rides, not allowing terrain shaping etc....
It's better this way because then everyone has to use the same scenerio file which makes things more fair. Also, it prevents the contestants from miscounting 31 squares and similar problems.

[DWWilkin]

I've built a template

It has a 100K, is that enough to design and build with, or do people think we need to do more.

It is completly flat and I wonder if we should put some landscaping in it? Certainly around the edges...

Comments?

[tikitiki]

Thats fine. And if you send me the layout I'll see what I can do to it to.

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

WE have been working on the starting template. It shoudl be ready by mid-week. Who is interested in designing a park? And are there any more comments about judging criteria?

After release of the template, perhaps a 2 week window, or 1 month window for design? Comments.

[rct3phreak]

I'll be a judge too, because my park building skills still arent up to par yet. I only put the good parts of my parks in my videos. But I have a very good eye for detail.

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by sniper1263
One other thing! I think we should place a height restriction on pathways. I'm sure you all know that you can just make your stalls and rides float, and have your pathway just up up up. I say the basic pathway must remain at ground level. I say basic pathway because we should leave room to allow for paths to go up and down.

I think this might be an esthetic point of judgement. If the pathways are on stilts, then it will look wrong. If the ride is 3 stories above the ground then it will look wrong. My vote would favor the person who designs a park that is based in reality. Certainly peeps have no problem walking on pathways 100 feet up, but real humans do have such a problem. So while not disallowing it, I would score such a park very low. How's that for feedback?

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by sniper1263
One other thing! I think we should place a height restriction on pathways. I'm sure you all know that you can just make your stalls and rides float, and have your pathway just up up up. I say the basic pathway must remain at ground level. I say basic pathway because we should leave room to allow for paths to go up and down.

I think this might be an esthetic point of judgement. If the pathways are on stilts, then it will look wrong. If the ride is 3 stories above the ground then it will look wrong. My vote would favor the person who designs a park that is based in reality. Certainly peeps have no problem walking on pathways 100 feet up, but real humans do have such a problem. So while not disallowing it, I would score such a park very low. How's that for feedback?

[DWWilkin]

Current Judges:

DWWilkin
Tikitiki
RCT3Fanatic
rct3phreak

That should be enough...

Now those who would like to participate for certain, and who I will send the file to, or perhaps we can host the file and the entries at one of the fan sites... Any ideas?

And last, there are still a few judging criterias I would like to get your feedback on... (See above posts)

[P1atinum]

Count ol' Platinum in - (I'm a bit pressed for time, but I'll certainly give it my best shot...)

[wickedfan07]

Heck why not, I'll try. I can't say it'll be anything good, or if I'll even finish it in the selected window, since I have a lot gong on in school and stuff. But I can try! Will check back for more info soon!

Happy gaming:)
wickedfan

[P1atinum]

Ok guys... so when do we start?!

[DWWilkin]

I've got a file and Tikitiki is looking it over. I have asked if the other two judges want to tweak it before we start.

I have put it on Rapidshare, but I do think that we can develope bandwidth somewhere we can put the start scenario, and then the entries all together in a foum.

However should you wish to see what I have gotten for your inital perusal and what I sent the other judges, here it is.


http://rapidshare.de/files-en/518832/Small_Adventure_Park_water.dat.html

If we decide there are more tweaks to be done to the park, we shall announce it.

Good luck, and I do look forward to you creations.

If you decide to entire please PM me to let me know that you have actually started.

Entrants (I think by reading your posts)at this point are:
PLatinum
wickedfan07
thergothon

[Milkdud]

I'm in as well, when can I start? DO I start with that file now or do I have to wait for more tweaks? Also, I say just leave the file on rapidshare and place the finished park file link in the first post for everyone who wants to enter...

[DWWilkin]

Let us give my co judges till Sunday the 6th at midnight (PST) to finish their looking or tweaking the file. Then I shall place in the first post A reedit with the file link, and an updated list of entrants. We shall keep the contest open until March 6th at midnight for the first small park?

[rct3phreak]

I'm not going to be able to judge until monday night after the sixth because of baseball practice and I just know I will have english homework. Is that okay? Am I still a judge?

[DWWilkin]

I am expecting to kick this off tonight (2/6) at midnight (well actually 10PM PST) when I update the initial thread. I forecast letting the competition remain open for a month. As a judge it should be our (the judges) job to retrieve the entries and grade it on the criteria that is posted in the first post of this thread. We should thus be able to make an announcement as to a winner early in March, and start the next small park competition then...

How does that sound?

[rct3phreak]

Just as long as I don't have to start doing the judging itself until at least that Tuesday. Is that okay?

[DWWilkin]

I think we will be able to do a great deal of judging as we go...

;-)

[rct3phreak]

Are they going to be posting screens as they go?

[DWWilkin]

I would expect entrants to send us their parks.

[wickedfan07]

Originally posted by DWWilkin
I am expecting to kick this off tonight (2/6) at midnight (well actually 10PM PST) when I update the initial thread. I forecast letting the competition remain open for a month. As a judge it should be our (the judges) job to retrieve the entries and grade it on the criteria that is posted in the first post of this thread. We should thus be able to make an announcement as to a winner early in March, and start the next small park competition then...

How does that sound?

is there an updated layout or do we just go with the one posted earlier?

HG:) wickedfan:cool:

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by wickedfan07
is there an updated layout or do we just go with the one posted earlier?

HG:) wickedfan:cool:

Please use the one posted before. The updated first post of this thread also links to the same file. Good luck, I look forward to seeing your creations...

[DCWill]

Based on the rules of this contest, I tried making a funtional park that looked nice, but in doing so I have a lot of "dead" space used by scenery to add to the visual effects of the park. What this causes is of couse less rides, which in turn causes less peeps. Since the contest score is in part based on peeps in park, are you wanting "as much as can be crammed into the box" or you wanting "nicely designed and laid out parks"?

The mentioned park above when first ran for it's year course would max out at 650 peeps. Course I didn't save that one, as I've still got some scenery to add.

Anyway, inquiring minds....

[DWWilkin]

Criteria to win:
1) Best use of Money$$
2) Open park and run without tweaking for 1 year and see a park rating by the judges (taking an aggregate of their scores)
3) Overall total of Excitement
4) Averages of Excitement

Special achievement for highest FPS

Judging categories:
$$ spent to build park
# Guests at end of year 1
List of what guests are doing at end of year 1
List of what guests are thinking at end of year 1
Total profit at end of year 1
Park Value at end of year 1
Company value at end of year 1 (Start with 1000 only for contingency money to pay your staff.)



There are 31 rides allowable and 18 shops/stalls so naturally that could leave a great deal of space as pointed out by DCWill, but this will be how weveryone faces the problem. Use of scenery, landscaping, making the park attractive will play a part. The computer AI of course will hamper efforts to mazimize # of peeps at year end, and it is possible that every entrant will have the exact same #, so the judges subjectivity will come into play.

But with all the ride choices, it is concievable though probably not something we will encounter that of the 31 rides (and 3 are coasers) that all rides will be the same, so the average and combined excitement ratings should be different as should the actions and thoughts of the number of peeps in the park at the end of year one.

As for profit and park value scores this of course will be up the entrant and a multiple of what ehy set ride and stall prices too. For instance you might have a Hot Dog with the Works set at $6 and another might have a plain Hot Dog for sale only set at $1.2, and your entry might be the key to several hundred more $$ in profits at the end of year one.

As a judge (and unable to speak for the others) 'nicely designed and laid out' will get more points with me, than one crammed to the gills with every ride and every nook and cranny taken up.

[DCWill]

Thanks for clearing that up. I'll go back to work on it now, not that my parks can really compete with some of the beautiful parks that others around here create, but it is fun trying none the less.

[DWWilkin]

Whet our appetities... Post work in progress pictures... ;)

[Milkdud]

Let me see if I understand this. WE build a park, then the JUDGES run the park for 1 year? Or do we build the park until the end of year1 then we have to stop building? The first one makes muich more sense to me.

[DWWilkin]

Hi

You build the park, then the judges run the park for a year. That way 4 different machines will throw random variation into the results (You know those random number generators in the AI)

(This just occurred to me as an AI test question, do you get vastly different results depending on what speed you run the park at? For instance if you run the park at regular speed then go back and run the park for the same length of time fast forward will your results be all over the place?)

After you save your file, you may want to test several times.

[DCWill]

Well, it isn't anything fancy....

http://portalsofadventure.com/rct/smallpark1.jpg

After looking it over, I'll probably have to redo some of it (read as all, since I didn't save it in sections and cost of deleting walls would take a chunk out of the cost of the park), due to lack of "excitement" ratings.....splash boats and go carts just dont do it, although fun to me.

[DWWilkin]

I like the use of the splash boats around the park, like a miniature train ride. Have you tested with the excitement rating of Splash boats? Do they change depending on the speed to the plungs? Scenery around the boat? Or are they static, just set to one # and that is it?

[DCWill]

With all the scenery I added around the splash boats, its stats are:

E: 4.64
I: 1.51
N: 0.81

That one I didn't think turned out too bad, but the go carts, even with all the overpasses (cant be seen from the picture), underground, scenery, it is barly over 2.5 excitement.

Oh, speaking of the above, you do realise that a few game days are going to pass, depending on how many times one saves and gets out of the game. Of course that is taking into account that it is being built in the custom scenario's which takes a few seconds to get the pause button pressed.

[DWWilkin]

One thing that will have an effect on the number of peeps at the end of the year is the price you set for entry... (I believe I gave our entrants control over that.) You might also be able to prepurchase several advertising campaigns with the money out of the 100K. This could get some peeps into the park. Once the judges have the park we should just be sitting passively back and watching the progression... And of course enjoying the show when the fireworks come on at night ;)

[tikitiki]

Sorry peeps. I have beenultra busy these last couple weeks with my mom in the hostpital and such. I do not think I will have the time to judge. I can however like be a compitition coordinator. You can figure out what I do as long as it is not to much.

Cheers Tikitiki

[wickedfan07]

will get to work on this contest this weekend:)

HG:)wickedfan:cool:

[i_feel_sick]

Just thinking about this contest lately and decided to join... I can't build huge parks very well, so I will try to put in an effort to build a small park for this contest... but I have several questions about this... where do I host the finished file (saved game.. right??), approx. how big will the file be ??

[rct3phreak]

Host it on RapidShare, and it probably won't be any more than 2 or 3 MB.

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by tikitiki
Sorry peeps. ... I can however like be a compitition coordinator. You can figure out what I do as long as it is not to much.

How about you come up with a form for us judges to fill out and then tabulate the responses.

It can be a spreadsheet with such things as:
Park name
Judge
Cost of Park
# of Peeps Oct 31 Year 1
Park Rating Oct 31 Year 1
# Coasters
# Fireworks
# Shops
# Food Stalls
# Drink Stalls
# Gentle
Total Excitement
Average Excitement
and all the other things we are judging

Also the final judging starts on March 7th, so perhaps you will have more time then...

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by i_feel_sick
where do I host the finished file (saved game.. right

http://www.rapidshare.de/en/main.html

Then provide the link in a PM, or a post here so all can play it.

You also might do a picture of your park. Pictures of parks in progress are encouraged!

A hosting site for that is
http://imageshack.us/

[Milkdud]

Here's a progress shot of mine...Haven't had much time to work on it though...
http://www.alienhax.us/uploads/rct3_3.jpg

[DWWilkin]

Looks very nice. Do I see a pathway that acts like a bridge over a lake?

[wickedfan07]

Do we have to have a fireworks show??:confused: If so, can I just use one of the pre-created ones because I can't get the hang of the MixMaster yet:( I haven't had a lot of time to play w/ it.

Happy gaming:)
wickedfan:cool:

[DWWilkin]

You can have up to 3. So that is 0 to 3 of them. I am not sure if having one will increase your peeps in attendance, and their overall happiness. These of course are factors that effect park rating, how much money you are making, etc.

You can of course use canned fireworks shows.

[Milkdud]

Originally posted by DWWilkin
Looks very nice. Do I see a pathway that acts like a bridge over a lake?
Yup :) The bridge will lead to a small food court that lies on top of the lake.
This whole park layout is almost exactly like the park I made for bitter's contest. Just have to compress it alittle and change some things.

[tikitiki]

Sure I'll work on that!
I was also thinking if we could create an expample park. That gives a little bit of guide lines to how it should be created and used.

DWWilkin check your pm inbox...

Cheers Tikitiki

[DCWill]

I'm in the same boat as wickedfan when it comes to fireworks. That mixmaster and I dont see eye to eye. I'll be having to use a canned show as well.

I've all of a sudden got an interest in the movie making so I decided to make a commericial of what I have thus far. It is only a 1.5 minute commericial, but fun to make.

Paradise Lagoon Commericial (http://rapidshare.de/files-en/581143/paradiselagoon.wmv.html)

[wickedfan07]

Originally posted by DWWilkin
You can have up to 3. So that is 0 to 3 of them. I am not sure if having one will increase your peeps in attendance, and their overall happiness. These of course are factors that effect park rating, how much money you are making, etc.

You can of course use canned fireworks shows.

cool beans. Thanks:)

HG:)wickedfan:cool:

[DWWilkin]

I'm up to open the factory early this am and I was very pleasantly surprised to see DCWill's video. I am very impressed. (You should enter that in Bitter Jeweler's contest too.) and I like where we are going with Milkdud. This is getting to be fun for me. As soon as I can I will be taking a look at some work of Tikitiki. I think we are going to have some great parks on March 6th!

[DWWilkin]

I took some pictures of DCWill's video and wanted to post them with everyone to see some of the cool work we have coming.


http://img203.exs.cx/img203/4789/paradiselagoon00100019zl.jpg


http://img198.exs.cx/img198/6868/paradiselagoon00300016ai.jpg

http://img198.exs.cx/img198/9015/paradiselagoon00300020xp.jpg

[DCWill]

Thanks for the compliment! I dont know about bitter's competition as I still have a lot of learning to do with making movies, and this old dog doesn't learn new tricks well :bulb: I've got some honeydo's to accomplish today, but I will attempt to get some screenshots posted later tonight.

[rct3phreak]

Dude, that video was awesome!!! You really complimented your park with it. That is gonna be one awesome park when it is done!!:D :D

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by DCWill
I've got some honeydo's to accomplish today

:cry:I've gpt 60% of the factory working today and it is my Saturday to do the babysitting duty. :cry:

This means though that all those honeydo's my wife lined up(Lowes, the nursery, work in the yard) I don't have to do :D

Good luck with yours!

Bitter Jeweler's competitionhas a $50 prize...
You can find details here:
http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=446032

[tikitiki]

DWWilkin check your pms...

Cheers Tikitiki

[KoasterKid23]

hey dwwilkin! I would love to enter your contest. I already downloaded the park and started building.
-Do the Log Flumes count as roller coasters or thrill rides?-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/KoasterKid23/Jungle.jpg

[DWWilkin]

I consider anything that you build through the coaster button a coaster, so that makes a log flume a coaster :sour:

But they have a big footprint, so in a small park how many of these rides would you really have?:noob:

Good Luck.

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by KoasterKid23
hey dwwilkin! I would love to enter your contest. I already downloaded the park and started building.

I like what you've done with the place. I like wooden coasters the best! Childhood memories...

[i_feel_sick]

Ladies (i doubt) & gentlemen !!! I'd like to welcome you all to
"THE PIRATE'S COVE"
[Arrrrrrr.... draws sword and challenges to duel]
The one and only place where pirate wannabes come for training and to have some fun in the sun...

Here's an overview of the park...
http://img229.exs.cx/img229/4923/main28jb.jpg
Here's the front entrance of the "Adventure Express"...
http://img229.exs.cx/img229/4969/ae8jr.jpg
Here's the "Rowing Training Facility"...
http://img229.exs.cx/img229/531/rtf9nz.jpg
Here's the "Maritime Adventure Simulator"...
http://img229.exs.cx/img229/4247/mat7ks.jpg
And the "Pirate's Flume Coaster" to cool off...
http://img229.exs.cx/img229/1101/tpfc5lh.jpg
And finally "The Native Feel"...
http://img229.exs.cx/img229/8143/anf6lu.jpg

A Note to fellow consumers : These images may or may not represent final product. Minor changes are expected due to micromanagement issues.

Contest Park file download will be available for download tomorrow 99.9% possibilty... the 0.1% due to natural wonders like earthquakes, tsunamis, asteroid impact or worst of em all - a computer VIRUS !!!

Comments are most welcome !!!
Thank you for your cooperation... Do visit again when the park is open for business...

Note to judges: 1 1/2 game month has passed for me due to testing and other issues, so one game year will be over by april or may year 2.

[DCWill]

rct3Phreak- Thanks! I have to learn to keep that flying camera from backing up before it moves forward, but I think I'm getting there. I'll try to get another vid out as I progress forward. At any route, I should have one for the opening of it (submission time).

DWWilkin- I know how the days of babysitting at work go. I managed to get the honeydo's done, but as you can tell, the screenshots didn't make it last night, but here they go.

Overview of the park as it stands right now.
http://portalsofadventure.com/rct/lagoonover.jpg

Pond under the main coaster
http://portalsofadventure.com/rct/lagoon.jpg

I hate how frontier put the water rides into the coaster section. Anyway, since they did, and it is in the rules, I gave up one of my coaster slots for looks and put this in. It doesn't have a big footprint, not high excitement, but hey, it looked nice.
http://portalsofadventure.com/rct/lagoonrapids.jpg

This is the foodcourt located in the "hotel" (spashboat station) at the back of the park.
http://portalsofadventure.com/rct/lagooncourt.jpg

i_feel_sick - "The Pirates Cove" is looking good. I like the "open/wide" layout you have going on with your park. Nice and easy to get around, and pleasant on the eyes.

Koasterkid23- Those coasters look nice. I cant wait to see the park progress.

[rct3phreak]

That's an interesting rapids ride you have there. Did you have to make the most of the space that you had?

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by i_feel_sick

Note to judges: 1 1/2 game month has passed for me due to testing and other issues, so one game year will be over by april or may year 2.

Looks Great!!! Very nice balance. But about the game year, and for other entrants. Close your park while building. i_feel_sick though you have 456 peeps/guests in the park so we have to go to October 31 01...

[DCWill]

Originally posted by rct3phreak
That's an interesting rapids ride you have there. Did you have to make the most of the space that you had?

I didn't have to, I have a lot of open space over on the right side of the park, but I just thought it fit nicely there. While I may be lacking a little in overall excitement I'm hoping to make it up in other areas (regarding competition score). Anyway, I love this small park idea, and although winning would be nice, it is fun seeing what others come up with in the same amount of space. Going through all the themes will be a challenge all to itself (which I'm assuming is what is going to be done).

[DCWill]

Originally posted by DWWilkin
...about the game year, and for other entrants. Close your park while building.

I suggest for testing rides to see if you like their stats, save the game as something other than the orginal (I've added 0-4 on my saves) this way you can let it play out unpaused then pull it back up after you know what they are. The only ingame time that passes for me is when I load the game up and it is unpaused. Takes a couple seconds to stop it.

[DWWilkin]

Definitely! By the time we get through them, Soaked will be out and we will have new themes!!! Hooray!

[KoasterKid23]

My park is almost done! Jungle Madness will be up for download in a day or so. I just have to make some little adjustments before I officially submit it. New pics will be up in a little while...I am having trouble logging in to photobucket.

[rct3phreak]

Hey, KoasterKid, wait to put your park up for download until the deadline. You dont want people downloading it and stealing your ideas, do you? Just put pics in the thread and wait to put it up for download.

[KoasterKid23]

lol...top secret information - I will probably wait to put the park up for download

-I am still having problems with photobucket so the pics might be a while-

[rct3phreak]

Use imageshack. You can get there by clicking here (http://imageshack.us/)

Good luck!!

[KoasterKid23]

Pics of Jungle Madness

http://img216.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img216&image=jungle17mx.jpg
http://img216.exs.cx/img216/9519/jungle21dx.jpg
http://img216.exs.cx/img216/6909/jungle38bq.jpg
http://img216.exs.cx/img216/89/jungle42yr.jpg

Thanks rct3phreak! Imageshack seems to work good, but they kinda look a little blurry after converting them to jpg. Oh well.:rolleyes:

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by rct3phreak
Hey, KoasterKid, wait to put your park up for download until the deadline. You dont want people downloading it and stealing your ideas, do you? Just put pics in the thread and wait to put it up for download.

You can also PM me with the location, and I can send that to the other judges, that way if we as judges have rated the parks ahead of the deadline and don't receive a rush at the end of the month, then we can recognize a winner that much quicker.

Or if you are unafraid of competition and people stealing your trade secrets, then post to the thread the location of your park. At the end of the competition when all the parks are in, I'll post screen shots of the parks and the location of the park files.

[rct3phreak]

Those are some nice pics!!! One thing I haven't seen from any of the contestants in a pic is a firework show. I would like to see at least one in every park that is submitteed.

[DCWill]

I've almost finished my "midway" of thrill rides and now I get to start working on a firework show. This is going to take me a bit as I dont do well with that mixmaster. Might have to use a canned show, but one way or another I'll have fireworks.

[Thergothon]

Ive put down a couple of dueling LIMs in my park and chucked in a bit of scenery as well as a couple of other rides. Unfortunately the LIMs arent that exciting and are only 7s... I think that might have to do with the fact that they are LIM's...

Anyway, I'll upload some pics today or tommorrow when more of it is complete.

S.

[i_feel_sick]

DWWilkin.. Check your PM's....

[Thergothon]

Park Overview (http://free.hostdepartment.com/a/atragicopus/spcomp001.jpg)

Thats pretty much it, I cant think of anything more I want to add to it, and even if there was something, where to put it....

A quick qustion for the judges: How important is cash? I have over 50 thousand left and am not sure whether to build a few little buildings and improve the scenery, or to keep the money.

Also, how important is profit? I let this run for a year and made around $3K, which isnt much because I was charging next to nothing for my rides, but the rating was around 940 at the end.

Either way, all thats left to really do is fiddle with pricing and naming the rides. Aside from that, this is probably what I'll enter.

S.

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by Thergothon
A quick qustion for the judges: How important is cash? I have over 50 thousand left and am not sure whether to build a few little buildings and improve the scenery, or to keep the money.

Also, how important is profit? I let this run for a year and made around $3K, which isnt much because I was charging next to nothing for my rides, but the rating was around 940 at the end.


I have an entire list of criteria for us to record and then rank form first to last, profit and left over money is just one of them. By using part of the money to build yor park and make it attractive adds to the subjectivity score, and perhaps the peep AI, though I doubt that. (Madmab would know probably ;)

Tikitiki is working on putting the judging sheet online, but it is all encompassing I think with about 20 to 40 items to record. This ranges from a simple # Coasters to writing down the top ten things your Peeps are doing, and how many of them are doing that. (Which may be extraneous) but could be useful to coming up with an overall winner, or best of mentions. I may post my working copy of the form later for show and comment by the thread but think TikiTiki will have the whole form online shortly.

So the upshot of your questions, if you have spent the least to make your park, you might be the leader in that category but if that payoff does not generate enough excitement amongst your rides, or a balanced park then back to the drawing board. Further the subjective rating should count for a greater percentage of your vote then the one line amongst 30 that it occupies, so if you spend the most, and thus are in last place there, but have the most beautiful balanced park, we as judges should reward the accordingly. (There more confused then when we started :D I should be a politician;)

[tikitiki]

I am working on it right now :)

Cheers Tikitiki

[rct3phreak]

Is that roller coaster the same one around the entire park?

[Thergothon]

Nope, its two dueling LIMs. Something around 7.4 and 7.8 excitement each. I probably would have been better off making them a different type of coaster. Oh well.

S.

[DWWilkin]

Hi all, here is an update of what is going on with the judging criteria.

TikiTiki has been working on an online form that the Judges can fill out to help us with the judging.

It looks great! It should help alot. (When Tikitiki gets out of school I may have a job for him ;)

I have been looking at all the things we are judging and have the following for your comments:


I am thinking of a point scale. We have several categories where we can easily place a category winner, such as most peeps, highest park rating, etc.

I was thinking of grading this from 5 pts for first place in that category, 4 for second, etc. if you come in sixth or lower, you get 0 points in that category, if there is a tie at 2nd, then the 4th place number get 2 pts, the two tied get 4 points each. This is a standard scoring practice in the sports world.

If we have three entrants, then we won't award the lower points...

The categories are (This is from the first post):

# of peeps in the park (or, and I am looking for feedback) greatest increase from the date you turn the park over to when the judges stop running your park for a year.

Highest park rating

Lowest cost of park (We take the money you spent on rides, landscaping and other when you turn it over to us)

Highest Cash generated (Current cash at end-starting cash)

Greatest Profit made (add each month of profit--This could be the same as above and may be discarded)

Highest Park Value at end of year 10/31

Highest Company value

Greatest total excitement of all your rides

Greatest average excitement

Then subjectivity. Here I need community feedback. I believe this should carry a weight of 1/3rd of your total possible score to 1/2 of your score. On a 1 to 10 scale, 1 being lowest, 10 highest, if the points from the categories are worth 40, and we decide the subjective score is half of the possible points (another 40) then each rating is worth 4 points or 4 to 40.

The points would then be totaled from the three judges and added together for an overall high score winner.

I have been working on this for two days to come up with something comprehensive enough so a killer rollercoaster does not unbalance a well laid out park. This is not set in stone yet, the mechanics, but the categories are something we already mentioned we would be judging on. So I am looking for your commentary and help before we say this is the adopted policy... Thanks!

[Milkdud]

I'm going to have to drop out of this contest :( Very sorry but I'm really really busy with other projects and such atm, and to tell you the truth, this type of contest doesn't really tickle my pickle (the small park part does, but the whole micromangement stuff turns me off). Again, sorry DWWilkin :(

[DWWilkin]

I was really looking forward to that path that was going to lead to the food court over the water...

Well we should be here for a while in case you change your mind...

[tikitiki]

If you need it done faster I can get up but I can add more features in a week or so.

Ohh and I really appreciate the compliments :) It really helps stroll me along :)

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

At the present we have one park submitted so we are good while TikiTiki works on the final touches on the form. If other competition judges have ideas, to add to the our criteria, or would like to see if the implementation of the form might work for them, they should get in touch with Tikitiki or myself.

[tikitiki]

Being the Crazy Person I am, it seems that I have deleted your pm. Can you please resend it or try and type up what you sent again?

Cheers Tikitiki

[tikitiki]

DWWilkin check your pm's...

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

Update

Hi all

Officially we have had one entry submitted... (I feel sick)

One entrant drop out (MilkDud)

TikiTiki hard at work making the judging form online and nearly finished.

and one Judge has had to drop out ***Breaking News*** This leaves us with 2 judges so I am looking for another judge.

RCT3Phreak has had to drop out and go back to hitting the books. We hope that he shall be able to rejoin us for future competitions. In the meantime, beat the drums, send out the word, we are looking for another helping hand.

Also any comments on the judging questions I asked last week. I will have to set these in stone soon, so this is your chance to say that you like the notion or not. Subjectivity is important for it is my belief we all travel to parks that we like for some inherent reason and dislike, and this changes as we age. Most five year olds think a Disney Park is the greatest thing, and would probably think that a Six Flags experience is lousy since most of the rides are off limits to them.

David..

[DCWill]

I'd be willing to judge. Although I have built a park, I think I would get more enjoyment out of judging.

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by DCWill
I'd be willing to judge. Although I have built a park, I think I would get more enjoyment out of judging.

Update


So there we have it... DCWill steps up to the plate...


***Breaking News***

RCT3Fanatic also has to drop out of judging at this time... (DWWilkin wonders if it was something he posted...)

But in the meantime Tikitiki comes back in to say he can judge this first competition and would like to continue coordinating as time goes by. He may enter a contest later....

So now for judging we have

DWWilkin
DCWill
Tikitiki

DCWill, as you have already done some work on your park, you may want to post that park now, we love pictures, or wait until the contest closes on March 6th at 11:59 PM and then show what you would have entered...

[tikitiki]

Will DCwill still compete, just not judge his own park?

Cheers Tikitiki

[DCWill]

I dont think I should submit it for judging. I still have a little bit of tweeking to do, but I was planning on posting what I would have submitted sometime tomorrow. I'll also be sending a PM to DWWilkin tomorrow as well.

[DWWilkin]

I think it will be great to see what DCWill comes up with. If I somehow get rich, I will think of a way to reward entrants aside from naming you as the winner, but A $$ award like Bitter Jewelers contest. I do wonder how the $$ incentive did get started. For myself it has been tremendous to see what everyone is coming up with in this theme. The reason I chose it was because some of the most fun I had in RCT 1 was in the very small parks. Thanks Guys. You are all making my day :D

[DWWilkin]

AS an aside for entrants, if you would like to submit by the end of the day March 6th, please be sure to either post in the thread, or send a PM to Tikitiki so that he can add you to the judging area. We will be having a central place at Tikitiki's website I believe (Tikitiki amazes me with his energy and enthusiasm, I see him also as the Forum team leader for everything we are all learning about Soaked) to load all entries for the judges.

Thanks

David

[wickedfan07]

I'm pretty much done with mine, but I have a question. I ran the park's time clock during ride testing and the clock is now in year 4 or so. Is this a problem? I haven't had to time to post screens but I will try to later tonight if I get a chance in between homework assignments. No promises.:(

Happy gaimng:)
wickedfan

[DWWilkin]

It could be a problem.

Here is how:

If you have no one in the park, and no one has been in the park (which is hard to prove) then the amount you spent on developement should equate to what you have left in the kitty subtracted from the 100K you started with.

But if you hired staff early on, they have been paid since they got hired, and if you had people come into the park, and then leave, you cuold have a problem showing us how much the park cost to build.

(I do suggest pause at the beginning and test coasters while paused in construction mode-- ;) )

Now if we get the park and have to calculate how much you spent, when you have people in the park, we can do this for a few months, since those months are captured in the finance screens. But with you at year 4, this probably is not possible.

As an aside, a good use of cash before turning the park over to us, if you feel you would like to do this, entrants, (this is kind of like Final Jeopardy, how much do you bet) is to advertise. We won't do it for you. So how much you do, in what formats will affect the cash it took to build the park, but based on what you set the entrance fee at, this will affect your operating profit that first year of operation.

The upshot for you Wicked is 2 fold, 1 turn over the park and take a hit on the park construction amount. The other is take your rides and placements and terraforming and save the rides, and transfer that into a blank template. http://rapidshare.de/files-en/51883..._water.dat.html

[wickedfan07]

I have never had any guests or staff in my park. (Honest:)) What I could try is taking the file and turn it into a new scenario whcih starts from day 1... would this work?

-wicked:)

[tikitiki]

We will be having a central place at Tikitiki's website I believe (Tikitiki amazes me with his energy and enthusiasm, I see him also as the Forum team leader for everything we are all learning about Soaked) to load all entries for the judges.


That is just been the best words to my ears yet! I deeply appreciate all of these compliments!

Unfortunatly during testing of the uploader, I keep getting this 404 error. It looks like my Cgi-bin won't allow me to upload files publicly to it. Since I am the co-admin of colonelSandurz and best freinds with NicksVideo, lets see if I can pull something off, allowing us to have access to the park files from one set location than from stupid rapidshare. It gets annoying sometimes, escpecially when I exceed my download limit per day :(
I've been working away and hope to have it done very, very soon here :)

Cheers Tikitiki

[tikitiki]

Ahh. Good old NicksVideo helped out. I'll update the page tommorow :)

Cheers Tikitiki

[wickedfan07]

I am in the process of uploading screens of my park to ImageShack. I will be posting them soon.:)

-wicked:cool:

[tikitiki]

We be waiting :cool:

Cheers Tikitiki

[wickedfan07]

Welcome to wickedfan07's Adventure Park:)

Screenshots: (my apologies if these look funny, I'm using the screenshot tag.)

http://img188.exs.cx/img188/9074/apcoverview9ux.jpg
An overview of the park.

http://img188.exs.cx/img188/7316/apcflatrides1gj.jpg
Flat rides on left side of entrance path.

http://img188.exs.cx/img188/2846/apckidcoaster2dy.jpg
The "Kid's Kobra" Junior Coaster hidden behind the LIM "Kobra".

http://img114.exs.cx/img114/417/apcmoreflat6mv.jpg
Another view of the flat rides on the left.

http://img114.exs.cx/img114/7550/apcgokarts0tn.jpg
The "Village Karts" Go Kart track.

http://img114.exs.cx/img114/7235/apccobraroll8pi.jpg
KOBRA's Cobra Roll and first hill.

http://img114.exs.cx/img114/2503/apclagoon3zk.jpg
The park's lagoon, where the fireworks show takes place.


I have a few more tweaks with scenery and such to do. Any suggestions would be appreciated.:)

Happy gaming:)
wickedfan

EDIT: Fixed picture links.

[tikitiki]

Neato. For others a coaster cam would be nice but not nessacary. Thanks again and Great job!

Cheers Tikitiki

[tikitiki]

Here is the Uploader!
http://rygorde4.tripod.com/id40.html

We will require you to upload your park here and only here. Even if you have already uploaded it somewere else.

Before uploading change the park file with your username in front then a underline and let it continue. We will be monitoring the site so any abuse of the system will be dealt with accordingly.

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

I think I can upload the already submitted park to the uploader ;)

Now we have two entries from our entrant!!! I too second the thought about coaster cams:D I love em!!! My goal for my downtime this weekend is to learn how to use the flying camera mode and make some park vids. Those are encouraged too. Well everything is encouraged in this competition, and the better you sell it might raise the subjectivity level of the judges ;) I'm just saying, I've learned a lot about marketing, and I think we all have known to be swayed by a great presentation! (Including going to real life parks and then riding the newest fastest badest ride that they have unveiled that year only to find it a dud! :( )

[i_feel_sick]

Originally posted by DWWilkin
I think I can upload the already submitted park to the uploader ;)

Thanks a million... Uploading that file to Rapidshare on my 56k modem took a lot of time (around 25 mins) :bulb:

[tikitiki]

lol I_feel_sick. While I put the finishing touches to the site we prepare for the fanilie. Hopefully we still have people watching this thread and preparing their park. Now I am off to figure out a mathmatical formula in javascript to add a couple of variables to the form and have results shown in a box. Nobody wants to help me in the chat. If someone does know it pm me and I'll give you the part of the code I need the forumula applied to.

Thanks...

Cheers Tikitiki

[DCWill]

tikitiki, sorry I cant help with javascript. HTML I know, but javascript i'm hit and miss on. btw, the uploader looks sweet!

[HulkLocalNews]

I'll try it...

When is it due?

[DCWill]

Originally posted by HulkLocalNews
I'll try it...

When is it due?

The deadline is March 6th Midnight. Looking forward to seeing your entry!


Well, I just noticed that this will be my 50th post, guess I need to find an avatar now :-) I made another short video for what would have been the opening of the park. Park advertisement (http://rapidshare.de/files/720902/lagoonad.wmv.html)

Here is the park if anyone wants to see. It has NOT been set up to open, IE: no staff, prices NOT set, etc. as I have been spending time working on a firework show that I ended taking out in because it didn't look good as a finished product. Anywho, here is the park. All of the rides are in test mode, and peeps are just now entering the park. Park Download (http://rapidshare.de/files/721077/Small_Adventure_Park_water3.dat.html)

**Edit** Fixed paths I forgot to add, and set all rides to test mode. Had to change the link.

[i_feel_sick]

Originally posted by DCWill
The deadline is March 6th Midnight. Looking forward to seeing your entry!

Umm DCWill.. maybe HulkLocalNews meant to try to help tikitiki in the Java stuff... or maybe he's entering...

[DCWill]

hehe......didn't think of that :D

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by i_feel_sick
Umm DCWill.. maybe HulkLocalNews meant to try to help tikitiki in the Java stuff... or maybe he's entering...

I'm hoping he is an entrant. HulkLocalNews has been learning alot over in the Strategies and Park Planning forum and has come along way in a very short time, learning how to do buildings, asking about malls. So for now I am going to update the first post as if we have another entrant!!! :) :D

[HulkLocalNews]

I am an entrant!

[tikitiki]

Bravo. I'll update the form, ohh and I wrote the code(took me about 3 hours) from scratch, but i've been having a little bit of trouble. It won't seem to give the output value of 'a'. I'm going to try a different meathod.
Here is the code:

<script language="Javascript">
<!--
// This begins the addition string for number of workers
var number = 0
{
document.myform.mytextfield.onChange;
document.myform.elements[i]
{
var number = "";
document.write.void( q += "" )
{
document.myform.mytextfield.onChange;
document.myform.elements[i]
{
var number = "";
document.write.void( q += "" = z )
{
document.myform.mytextfield.onChange;
document.myform.elements[i]
{
var number = z;
document.write.void( z += "" = n )
{
document.myform.mytextfield;
document.myform.elements[i]
{
var number = n;
document.write.void( n += "" = a );
{
document.write( a )
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
// -->
</script>
<b># Total number of staff is 'a' (w/unlimited vendors):
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Off to fix it now. I'll update with the new code when I'm done.

edit: cool, this is my 998th post!

Cheers Tikitiki

[tikitiki]

I've just decided to abort the coding of that part. Besides its only one more field the judges will have to fill out. Maybe I'll work on it in future compititions.

Anyway, this is how far I got.

<b># Janitors :</b> <input type=text name="# Janitors" size="25"><br>
<script language="Javascript">
<!--
var # Janitors = z
// -->
</script>
<b># Mechanics :</b> <input type=text name="# Mechanics" size="25"><br>
<script language="Javascript">
<!--
var # Mechanics = q
// -->
</script>
<b># Security :</b> <input type=text name="# Security" size="25"><br>
<script language="Javascript">
<!--
var # Security = c
// -->
</script>
<b># Entertainers :</b> <input type=text name="# Entertainers" size="25"><br>
<script language="Javascript">
<!--
var # Entertainers = b;

// -->
</script>
<b># Total number of staff is 'a' (w/unlimited vendors):</b>
<script language="Javascript">
<!--
document.write( z + q + c + b = a )
{
document.write( a )
}
// -->
</script>


Edit: 999 post!

Cheers Tikitiki

[DCWill]

Welcome to the group, HulkLocalNews! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!

Tikitiki, not sure if this is what your trying to do, as I said, java isn't my strong point, but I can usually look it over and see what it is suppose to do. I found something online that I'm thinking is similar to what your wanting and I modified it. If it isn't what your trying to get, I'm sorry.
Staff form (http://portalsofadventure.com/rct/staff.html)

**Edit**Hmm, well, it seems that form only works in IE. With Firefox, you have to look up into the address bar to see the result after you press the add button.

[tikitiki]

Great, except I want it to add automaticly. But what the hey thanks! Ohh and I run in Sbc Yahoo Browser and it works. (most likely my browser was built on-top of ie, with just a new skin) lol

I will create a pop-up notifying users that, "the form may not work with other browsers. For best results use internet explorer, Firefox or compatible."

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by i_feel_sick
Thanks a million... Uploading that file to Rapidshare on my 56k modem took a lot of time (around 25 mins) :bulb:


Just uploaded PiratesCove to the host site. DCWill and I might be able to put together a site that will showcase all finished work over the course of these contests so that after judging we can make them all available to everyone.

Originally posted by wickedfan07
I have never had any guests or staff in my park. (Honest:)) What I could try is taking the file and turn it into a new scenario whcih starts from day 1... would this work?

-wicked:)

It does look like an empty park, wicked. We could run the park, unless there are protests from the other entrants, for 1 year. You would lose out on optimal cash because of paying for rides for as long as you have for maintenance, and also, the excitement rating for old rides might be detrimental to you in attracting peeps. You may want to run a copy like we would as judges for year, and if you are happy with the results, and as I said, no great protests from the other entrants, we can proceed! :D



Originally posted by DCWill
I made another short video for what would have been the opening of the park. Park advertisement (http://rapidshare.de/files/720902/lagoonad.wmv.html)


Wow.


Let me say that again.

Wow.


I really like that. Enter it over at Bitter Jewelers'. That was very fun.

[DWWilkin]

I have put Tikitiki's upload site url in the first post so that is easily findable.

[DCWill]

Originally posted by tikitiki
Great, except I want it to add automaticly. But what the hey thanks! Ohh and I run in Sbc Yahoo Browser and it works. (most likely my browser was built on-top of ie, with just a new skin) lol

I will create a pop-up notifying users that, "the form may not work with other browsers. For best results use internet explorer, Firefox or compatible."

Cheers Tikitiki

I tried to figure out how to get it to add automatically, but couldn't do it. I normally use Firefox, but when I check my html, I use IE as well. I just noticed that it worked fine with IE, Firefox does add it, but it automatically refreshes so it clears the fields.

Originally posted by DWWilkin
Wow.


I really like that. Enter it over at Bitter Jewelers'. That was very fun.

Thank you! I cant enter this particular one as in the rules you cant have it posted anywhere. I may try to get one finished in time to enter. Thanks again for the encouragement. As for the website, just give me a holler and I'll be more than willing to get something together. As for bandwith, if needed, we can still put the "big" files on rapidshare. I'm sure we will figure something out.

[tikitiki]

nicksvideo will have plenty of space for parks. I believe we won't be going over my estimated 50 mbs use of his space anytime soon. And his plan is atleast a couple of gigs. DCWill I also forgot to mention how great a movie that was! Seriously it was great! I believe I could figure out how to add it automaticly but I don't want to take another 5 hours and do it all over again:bored:

DDWilkin I could try and help you with the showcase and thanks for updating the main page. To the judges, I should have the form up and ready by the 30th or sooner. DDWilkin, tell me any last changes now before I fililize it. I also added a printable version of the form so you could fill it out and not have to change constantly to fill out a field. Judges I've changed the password to the login and will e-mail you the new one soon.

Cheers Tikitiki

[DCWill]

Originally posted by tikitiki
I believe I could figure out how to add it automaticly but I don't want to take another 5 hours and do it all over again:bored:

I know the feeling of staring at code trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Cant say that I blame you for not wanting to do it.


Originally posted by tikitiki
To the judges, I should have the form up and ready by the 30th or sooner.

hehehe.........The 30th of Feb? :p Would that be double leap year? (sorry tikitiki, couldn't resist)

[tikitiki]

lol. Lets just say with-in the next 3 days or sooner ;)

Cheers Tikitiki

[tikitiki]

Remember all, when you upload your park put your name infront of it. And now I am requiring the date you entered too.

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by tikitiki
now I am requiring the date you entered too.

Couldn't we capture that from the uploader?

If they wish to change versions, say dwwilkin_adventurepark.dat and then I do a new one I would do dwwilkin_adventurepark2.dat or ...parkv2.dat etc. for this?

We do need to ensure that the judges all work on the same entry, and we do not have anything that limits one entry per person, so we could also have dwwilkin_adventureparktotallydifferentthenthelastadventurepark.dat

The first park could be pirate themed, the second could be dinosaur themed...

[tikitiki]

I'll see what I can do.

Unless the entrants tell us that they are making 2 versions I think that when they sumbit them, the park is final.

Cheers Tikitiki

[tikitiki]

Did someone upload Wonder Land and then remove it?

Cheers Tikitiki

[HulkLocalNews]

Hmm... Well, my park is growing slowly but surely.

I built an open-top town square in the middle of my park that contains all your food, drink and novelty shops... and I used that seating area trick where you have benches in the middle pathed area. I also made it so that the path that goes into the town square is symetrical to the opposite side, so if you wanted, you could just walk *straight* through it and get onto the park.

I hope it turns out well. I've been thinking of what rides to put and stuff. Everyone seems to be doing go karts, and I remember back when I played the first RCT, I would make these tall, compact go-kart tracks that ended up taking like, 2 real team minutes for the drivers to complete, lol

These boards have taught me a lot, as DW said. I am even learning about making my own computer with all your help. It's great. Looks like I am gonna have some tough competition in this contest though, may the best tycoon win.

[DWWilkin]

Good start HulkLocalNews.

I look forward to seeing your efforts.

[ColonelSandurz]

Is it too late to start?

[DWWilkin]

Welcome Aboard Colonel!

We look forward to your entry. See the first post for all pertinent details...

Anyone else can join as long as entries for competition one are posted to us before Sunday Night at Midnight...

[DWWilkin]

The second competition in the series will be starting on March 15th and continue until April 15th.
Between the competitions we will post the winner and try and get a support site going for the best efforts, pictures, videos, the parks, etc...

Amongst the judges I am leaning towards a retro Sci-Fi theme for the next competition as opposed to modern Sci-Fi...

[ColonelSandurz]

I put the file in my Scenarios folder, correct?

[DWWilkin]

(At work now-so can't test.) I think so yes...

[ColonelSandurz]

The file I downloaded seems to be corrupt...RCT3 just keeps scanning it and nothing happens.

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by ColonelSandurz
The file I downloaded seems to be corrupt...RCT3 just keeps scanning it and nothing happens.

(Still at work) I went through the download part from Rapidshare and that seemed to work. I will try this at home later when I get a chance tonight. You may want to quit and then restart RCT3 after downloading and placing the file in your RCT Scenarios folder...

[ColonelSandurz]

:D

I am an idiot


I had forgotten that Firefox crashed whilst I was d/ling the park, thus corrupting the file...

Now I will begin work on my park, which turns out is due to be finished on my b-day!

[DCWill]

Welcome aboard Colonel! Looking forward to seeing your entry.

[tikitiki]

colonel = an offical idiot j/k
when it comes happy birthday!
We'll be waiting for the entry!

Also people please if you have finished do not upload your park to the site I have posted erlier in the thread. I will post more details in a bit.

Cheers Tikitiki

[KoasterKid23]

Wow! we are getting a lot more competitors...I cant wait to see everyone elses parks.

-to the judges-I uploaded my park the other day with the help of tikitiki and i remembered that i didnt have any of the rides open...just telling you guys for when you start testing

[tikitiki]

We could remove it in the transfer and then you could go and fix it and re-upload it to the new one.

Cheers Tikitiki

[KoasterKid23]

yeah...I will upload the new park--all of the rides and the park are open but with no guests
I just named it with a 2 behind it like this: KoasterKid23-Jungle Madness(2)

I tried to upload it but I got an error.

thanks tikitiki

[HulkLocalNews]

My park is in April right now... is that okay?

[DWWilkin]

The big thing is to have your park closed so no peeps get in...

Also, you can really build a park on pause. Coasters can be tested with a ghost vehicle often when in cosntruction mode...

[tikitiki]

PAUSE THE GAME!!! Read the rules for the compitition

Cheers Tikitiki

[KoasterKid23]

ok...i got it figured out now. ill upload it tomorrow:haha:

[HulkLocalNews]

I do pause it... only times I unpaused it was because I needed to test my fireworks show, and the ghost train for the roller coaster wasnt working... so, I'm just in April... about a month has passed, but I did close the park...

[tikitiki]

Okey, but I would suggest that you open it because # of peeps will count toward your judging score.

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

Opening the park will be one thing that the Judges do when running the park for a year... :) (Some of the common sense stuff I can still remember to do. I may be old, but I am not that old :D

Old joke...
DWWilkin looks in the mirror at his white hair
"Hmm, they said turning white would be the second thing to happen to me as I got older... I forgot what the first thing was..."

The old joke is much dirtier, but many of you are too young--Sorry :) (I was in my 20's when they told me the dirty joke...)

[KoasterKid23]

:haha: thanks for clearing that up dwwilkin we were massively confused for a while:haha:

[HulkLocalNews]

Alright, got it done...

I made a fireworks show with my own music, so what files do I need to send?

[tikitiki]

I'll post info in a sec.

Cheers Tikitiki

[tikitiki]

The New Uploader provided by NicksVideo!

1)To upload your park please sign-up here (http://upload.nicksvideo.com/signup.php).

2) Then upload your park here (http://upload.nicksvideo.com/upload.php).

If you want to upload a music file with it you must include it with-in a zip file!

If this system is abused in anyway you will be banned from the system indefinatly.

Hope you like it!

Cheers Tikitiki

[HulkLocalNews]

It's saying I left some fields blank when I tried to upload it...

and I couldnt put my music in the zip folder, so when you see mine, disregard the fireworks...

[tikitiki]

I'll get into it.

Cheers Tikitiki

[tikitiki]

Okey, should be fixed now. Me and my clumbsy self set the limit to 20M therefore it would not let you upload anything greater than...9kb...ROFL!

When nick removed the "Date Entered" field while testing we forgot to remove it from the script to. We fixed that. It should fully work now!

Thanks!

Cheers Tikitiki

[KoasterKid23]

I just uploaded my new park. The uploader seemed to work fine this time. Ill add some cool pics in a little bit.

[KoasterKid23]

A couple new pics of Jungle Madness...
The park hasnt changed much at all but I just felt like sharing some fun new pics for everyone.

http://img43.exs.cx/img43/534/shot00009xy.jpg
http://img43.exs.cx/img43/6351/shot00017kk.jpg
http://img43.exs.cx/img43/4122/shot00025di.jpg
http://img182.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img182&image=shot00049zf.jpg
http://img206.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img206&image=shot00052jp.jpg

[tikitiki]

Thanks for uploasding the park, and Great! pics. I just approved the file.

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

It is just after noon on Friday as I write this. We have entered the final phase now with the entries coming due. I look forward to seeing all your parks. What we've seen so far has been great. As always, screen shots and videos are encouraged.

[tikitiki]

Its morning of day 5 and we've only gotten one entry.
Please if your done re-upload your park. This is also a chance to fix anything of your park at the last minute for those of you who havn't uploaded them.

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

I have asked Tikitiki to double check everything. I know I uploaded IFeelSick's park to both of the sites over the course of our competition... More infor should follow...

[DWWilkin]

I just checked through the site and if you believe you have uploaded your file, you can PM me and I will give you my email address to send me a file directly, then I will take care of uploading it to the server once that is 100% operational. This will count as your entry being submitted on time.

Currently I/we have (one way or another) Koasterkid, Ifeelsick, and HulkLocalNews (unless HLN you have made any changes since the sample you submitted...)

Thanks

David

[tikitiki]

The system is now fully operational and has been tested throughly. If you have any problems please e-mail me (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=mailform&userid=203497) and we'll get the problem sorted out.

We'll keep track of the uploaded parks in a seperate post, that you'll refer to and will be updated normally.

Cheers Tikitiki

[tikitiki]

Uploaded Parks:

1) Ifeelsick
2) KoasterKid23
3) Wickedfan07


Cheers Tikitiki

[wickedfan07]

Ignore the first upload of my park! I forgot one MAJOR detail that would have killed me. New upload coming ASAP.

EDIT: My new park (wickedfan07-Lush Canopy Park(2).dat) has now been uploaded. I will also send a PM to DWWilkin to let him know. Thanks:)

-wickedfan07:)

[DWWilkin]

I was able to get rid of the first post at our upload site. Now all we have is the second good post.

Good luck to all contestants. Keep up the good work!

[tikitiki]

Okey its been taken care of...

Cheers Tikitiki

[i_feel_sick]

Geez.. haven't posted in a while... so I post... heeheehee... j/k

Wow.. everbody has made a real effort to build the ultimate park... So the best of luck to all...

Gee I shouldn't have been a nice guy submitted the park so early...

[tikitiki]

haha I feel sick. BTW are you better yet? rofl

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

Well our contest is reaching an end for entries. I hope everything is going smoothly for our contestants. If there are any problems please pm me, or post to the thread.

David

[i_feel_sick]

Originally posted by tikitiki
BTW are you better yet? rofl

Hey I'm better 24/7... My nick had a very unusual beginning... It all started when I couldn't think of a nick when I was registering... And the TV was on, on Cartoon Network... Courage was on... So I thought I'll watch this episode (I think it was "Dome of Doom") and keep my nick to whatever I hear at that moment... So Courage says "I feel sick" after he eats all the veggies... and so my nick was born... Yea yea what a weirdo I am... but thats just me... Hell no.. but I'm not sick...

[tikitiki]

haha! Interesting story!

Cheers Tikitiki

[tikitiki]

We've only got 3 ENTRIES! PEOPLE PEOPLE! :cry:

Were have you been! Don't kill this for all of us. We've extended the date to tommorrow noon. Get it in by THEN!

Cheers Tikitiki

(discussable??)

[SnootyVincent]

What time tommorow? I might do a quickie? Is there any chance you could extend the date till like the weekend? Maybe saturday?

[DWWilkin]

At this point we have 4 entries

If those entrants, who submitted by our rules say that it is alright to extend one more week, and we do get mroe entries, than that is find. If the entrants, KoasterKid, Wickedfan, HulkLocalNews, and I feelsick would rather we did not, then tomorrow noon will have to be the limit as Tikitiki posted.

That seems fair to our current entrants.

And it is fair to us judges if we extend and get the entries, if we extend the deadline and do not get any other entries, then we would be unlikely to do so again...

There will be another competition starting soon with the next theme.

We are looking at having a website but all the options get to be mind boggling.

Thanks all

BTW the entrants, if they would rather let me know by PM their feelings, may do so...

[KoasterKid23]

That's fine with me to extend the deadline. The more contestants we get the better.

good luck SnootyVincent!

[wickedfan07]

Good luck to SnootyVincent!! Fine by me to extend the deadline.:up:

-wickedfan:)

[DWWilkin]

We've heard from two of our entrants now, one more affirmative and I can safely extend the deadline till next sunday night but no later...

[SnootyVincent]

K! I'll get right to work! Wait, a quick q*. Do you have to have a certain number of rides or is that the max in the first post?

[HulkLocalNews]

I am cool with extending it... Hope you do good, I know I tried, hopefully I did alright!

May the best fanatic win.

[DWWilkin]

Sunday night, March 13th to 11:59 PM.

You may PM me for mt email if you want me to upload your park files. You may directly submit to the site, see first post. Later this week we will announce the second competition with the park file that will start on March 15th and continue to April 15th.

[wickedfan07]

A question on judging...will the judges be able to give us specific comments or will it be general based on our scores in each category? Also, whats the next theme going to be?

Happy gaming:)
wickedfan

[SnootyVincent]

OK I've got 1 ride done in my park.(It fills up about 30% of the park)Anyhow, I need to know if I can use certain objects from other themes. Like the rocks and flowers from the generic theme? I should be finished by friday!


Word to your mothers-SnootyVincent:cool:

[DWWilkin]

WE do not have anything in the rules that forbids the use of Generic theming if that helps, just as there are rides that are gnereic and non specific. I think all roller coasters are generic, but you can choose a car that is better suited to the theme and certainly entrance and exits.

So Generic away. It will count towards subjectivity...

[tikitiki]

WickedFan, Judges can input their own comments but it is based on a form in which will be filled out by the judge and then evaluated.

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

This is for HulkLocalNews. I got your fireworks to show. It is only selected for the month of September, which does meet the rules! Hazzah! I finally figured this out while playing through it some more. As we have a deadline till sunday night now, you may want to resubmit, and also submit your music file. That does not get packaged with the show.

For all you would be Pyros, hopefully we will have a forum where we discuss issues such as this, selecting all the months for the show and getting music that is key to the fireworks for sharing. In General Discussions you too can vote for a sub-forum dedicated to tutorials :D The Poll (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=452949)

So Hulk if you want resubmit, or at least email me the music file so I can enjoy your show!

[KoasterKid23]

I can't wait for the next competition! Have you picked a theme yet DWWilkin?:D

[wickedfan07]

I can't wait for the next competition either. Hopefully, I'll be able to use the scores and comments from this one to make my skills better for the next one.

Happy gaming:)
Wickedfan

[SnootyVincent]

It's Update Time! I got one section of my park done already. It contains one coaster, a slide, and some shops. These pics are from Escape from Adder Forest, A vertical drop coaster.

Your Mission: To bring back exactly one specimen of a new species of snake.(Discovered dead on the park's beach!) Your Crew: all of your fellow riders. Your Cation: A forest full of canabalistic snakes hungry for something new! The first pic is of the first drop.
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/2579/firstdrop014qh.jpg
The second shows a car rising up from the forest in an overbank!
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/598/overbank026zc.jpg
The third, of the rides shortly after leaving the forest with a skwirming snake!
http://img28.exs.cx/img28/2486/twists033ga.jpg
The last is just another shot I liked, no reason!
http://img28.exs.cx/img28/2511/angledcurve042do.jpg[/

PS:the park I submit won't have peeps.

[KoasterKid23]

Awesome Picks!
That roller coaster looks great! You are definately off to a great start. I'll be waiting for some more updates on your park.

[DWWilkin]

In regards to the next competition:

As I see it, we have a few choices, and I am open to adding some more choices...

1) Sci-fi (Retro--this is the stuff from the Golden Age of Science Fiction. Lost in Space. John Campbell stories.)
2) Sci-fi (Modern--Star Trek, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, Star Wars type Sci-fi.)
3) Western
4) Spooky
5) Adventure (Dinosaur)
6) Adventrue (Middle Eastern)
7) Generic (Carny)
8) Generic (Turn of the Century Main Street)

How are those for ideas? Please add to them, but I will be coordinating with the other judges and making a park file this weekend for release on the 15th!...

[DWWilkin]

KoasterKid and WickedFan,

Thanks for including this competition in your signatures... I appreciate it... :D

David

[KoasterKid23]

lol :haha: - no problem, this is definately my favorite part of the forums so far. If you even try to post a park in the exchange it drops down to the 2 page in less than an hour.:mad: This is a ton of fun though.

Those are some cool ideas for themes. They all seem like they would be lots of fun, but I think that spooky would be a good choice because some of the others dont offer much scenary to help carry the theme. Like the Dinosaur adventure one, this would be really cool but we only have 3 dinosaurs to work with right now...hopefully atari will help us out and add a ton of scenary in the next expansion packs.

[DWWilkin]

I thought about that, and this is probably where our small parks work for us. you might have the volcano effect, and the three dinosaurs in your park. Then a great deal more space devoted to trees and plants, making it that lush tropical world before time...

I do agree that Spooky and it seem like Western also have a great deal of scenery with which to play...

[i_feel_sick]

This competition would win "The Most Innovative Competition Award" if one ever existed.
That's a swell coaster, SnootyVincent. I am a really bad coaster designer (and building designer too), so I get jealous of everybody else's.
The new themes are great. According to me, I think Western, Spooky & Middle Eastern theme would be awesome as there are a lot of opportunities for great small parks.

[wickedfan07]

Originally posted by KoasterKid23
lol :haha: - no problem, this is definately my favorite part of the forums so far. If you even try to post a park in the exchange it drops down to the 2 page in less than an hour.:mad: This is a ton of fun though.

I agree. I made a coaster and put it in the exchange and I think it may be on page 3 now.:p

I like your ideas for themes DWWilkin. I'm posting in a hurry so I'll think about themes later today. (I'm really hoping school lets out early due to more...SNOW! :p )Also, to SnootyVincent, I'll check out your pics later.:)

Also, this competition is definitely worth putting in signatures. The thread on the general discussion fell fast so I figured I'd show a bit of it everywhere I post.

Gotta run!
-wickedfan:cool:

[DWWilkin]

Maybe BC will sticky us. We are the most active in the Competitoins Forum. Aoshi got stickied (which I can't figure) and Bitter Jeweler (which I can...)

[DWWilkin]

I just changed the main post figuring we should index DC WIll's excellent park promo video, and then I when linking to the rapidshare page that it was stored on, it now states at Rapidshare that they've dumped it. Does anyone know if Rapidshare purges all their old files. Many of us use Rapidshare... This could be a problem.

I will look for someway to get DCWill's video up for all of us :D It is most excellent.


Okay, I fixed that. I had a copy elsewhere and i uploaded that to Rapidshare and so it is back again.

But know that inactivity of 30 days means that the large files get killed. (That was in the Rapidshare fine print I just saw...)

This may mean that the small park file may be also disappearing one day. We will be working on a permanent site so the downloads will remain there as long as I pay the bills...

[KoasterKid23]

Originally posted by DWWilkin
Maybe BC will sticky us. We are the most active in the Competitoins Forum. Aoshi got stickied (which I can't figure) and Bitter Jeweler (which I can...)
That would be nice to be stickied...we have well over double the amount of posts of any of the other competitions.

We will be working on a permanent site so the downloads will remain there as long as I pay the bills...
Something like freewebs would work fine for a while. It wouldnt be too tough to make a freewebs site now, then switch to a regular website as the parks start coming in.

[tikitiki]

freewebs no way!!! You like download speed of upto 10k? That'll take hecka long. Even if your on cable the max'll be 10k

Cheers Tikitiki

[KoasterKid23]

lol...sorry didnt know that, I usually dont upload much to my site.:haha:

[DCWill]

I have noticed that about revshare, they tend to remove things before their stated 30 days. I too am looking into hosting options, so that I will not have to rely on a free host. That old saying I was taught many years ago still rings true on most things....you get what you pay for.

DWWilkin- Thanks for putting my video on the first post. I noticed that you put up the first one I made, and since I didn't check to see if the latest one was still there, I just reuploaded it. Lagoon Advertisement (http://rapidshare.de/files/843599/lagoonad.wmv.html)

I would once again like to say thanks for all who have entered this contest. Those I have "played" out thus far have had some really nice parks. I'm looking forward to seeing this competition grow as we progress through the different themes.

[DWWilkin]

Hi all,

I just put DC Will's latest link to his advertisement video in the first post. I will do my best to update as we go forward so all the references can be found there. (The many screenshots however will be spread throughout the thread. After the close of a contest, I shall put the park entries into the first thread.

As regards to music tied to your park, rides and fireworks. We believe there is a conceptual problem, as we have discovered with HulkLocalNews entry and some research I have done over at Biitter Jeweler's site will support this. Copyright is a very tricky thing. I have a friend who came over in the British Invasion and lives on the money he gets selling his CD's at his performances.

Many servers, and I know many in the community are at school and have their internet activity through that, will not allow us to send music to sit at the servers. They are protecting themselves from the legal issues and the ethics issues by denying this. I found Hulk Local News music to be great for his firework show when I finally got the file. Now I would probably never listen to that tune on my own and will have it buried deep in the RCT Music folder, sperate of the 10,000 tunes I have on CD's that I painstakingly imported into my network (anyone have a good ideal on getting vinyl into the system?)

The crux is if you rely on the non Atari music or music that you didn't create and send it to another, the creator could/should get some renumeration, or have given their permission. The law says that if the sender is getting anything, then the creator needs to receive something. We are giving out recognition and I suppose we can mention the name of the artist in the event that the contest winner has included music. No money (sorry guys, if I win the lotto, I'll give out cash priizes.)

But still some servers won't allow the sending of the music. And Atari wisely doesn't allow the music to be linked to the fireworks show when saving the fireworks file. (Microsoft movie maker does that, and one expects that movie editing software needs to have that functionality, but the ability to abuse the system is there. I expect our videos will always be able to have our music embedded in the file.)

(One way then is to submit a video of your fireworks show seperate of the park submittal. Here you can have the music playing, the judges do not get the music file, and we have another video for the board ;) )

The upshot is for the contest we will have to steer away from submisisons that will need special music. Until copyright law changes and policies at serves at universities change, that is the best course. But we do have a workaround listed above.

[tikitiki]

You've got 5 more hours people!!!!

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

Actually in my time zone the gang has 15 hours... ;)

[tikitiki]

:)

[KoasterKid23]

When will the winner be announced?
-I can't wait-:noob: :) :noob:

[tikitiki]

Most likely within a week.

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

At this time the First Contest has just closed to entries. I am still taking them if you have had trouble at Tikitiki's site. Please PM me for an email address.

Thanks

[DWWilkin]

Tomorrow will start the second competition, and I shall release the park file tonight. My question, open to comment, is do you want to have the same thread for the 2nd competition, or a new thread for the next competition?

2nd Question, can you wait till late tonight to find out whch theme, or do you all need to know now? :)

[DCWill]

Unless you just feel you should keep the next theme a secret until you post the park, you might as well give it out. hehe..Of course that is my my 2 cents, which isn't worth a whole lot. :rolleyes:

[DWWilkin]

(I guess if I could get you to send me the two cents, It would be worth that..)

Drum roll....








And the next theme will be....








Retro Sci-Fi...


(Alright, I was leaning towards this somewhere from the beginning, especialy the more I saw of the great ride designs...but I got the sense lately that the gang would like to focus on Spooky... So unless we hear a great deal of dissent, sometime in April (probably about the 20th) it looks like Spooky will be park type 3 ;)

[wickedfan07]

A new thread might be a good idea...just so any new peeps looking at the contest aren't confused by all the posts in between the adventure contest and the retro sci-fi contest.

Happy gaming:)
wickedfan

[tikitiki]

This is just sad. We only got 4 entrants. And to feel like I wasted alot of my time. :sour:

Make the next one better people...

[DWWilkin]

Tikitiki, not w waste of time, an investment.

We shall have more competitions. Besides the four official entires, we saw Thergothon's entry before he got tied up, we had DCWill's entry before he became a judge. I have an entry too that I finished last night before midnight (though of course it isn't in the running. I made a mirror coaster and think I learned a lot about that when doing it.)

I am having a really good time with the contest... I hope others are also! Your work is appreciated!

[tikitiki]

I agree this contest was fun but the entrant part was the part that saddened me....

Cheers Tikitiki

[KoasterKid23]

This is a great competition and I think that more and more people will enter (and submit to) this contest. Small parks are great because almost any one can give it a try. Lag should definately not be an issue.
-Keep up the hard work Tikitiki, you can't expect too many people the first time around-
:D :up:

[DWWilkin]

DWWilkin's stab at the competition

Lagos Park:

Cost of $41,371.68
Park Value at start of $456
Park rating 711
Company Value $58,084.32

File at:http://rapidshare.de/files/876267/David_sSmall_Adventure_Park_water.dat.html

During the day
http://img227.exs.cx/img227/8591/lagosparkday5lp.jpg

At Night
http://img227.exs.cx/img227/6746/lagosnight5ht.jpg

[i_feel_sick]

Cool... the competition has ended, so we wait for results...
@DWWilkin - Yes the next lap should be in a new thread, as it would cause confusion to new peeps (as someone quoted above) and this thread is really full.
@All - Can someone be kind enough to explain to me what exactly is "retro sci-fi"... I get the sci-fi part of it and I guess retro means "old times?", is there a park in the exchange, I could refer to, to the idea ? :D :noob:

[DCWill]

Retro is more along the lines of H.G. Wells "War of the Worlds". Alien invasion, space ships, flying sausers, etc. Old Sci-Fi buildings tended to be shaped like bubbles more times than not. (This is not to say you cannot come up with your own versions for building) To keep this theme a bit easier to think of, just try to keep out the attacking robot type scenary and buildings that have a "modern" feel to them. DWWilkin might be able to explain it a bit better than I.

I have completed judging all the parks. You guys all did a great job, and I thank you for taking the time to share your work with us. Now I just have to get all the complied information to the other judges. :) While watching these parks play out, I jotted down information about each park, and although they may seem a little critical, they were ment to be used as information in future parks for our competition. I will be compiling these into some tips that "I" watch for when judging a park, which I will post in the new thread shortly. Again, you all had some really nice parks, cant wait to see what you all come up with next! Thanks again!!:up: :up:

[wickedfan07]

After reading DCWill's suggestions in the thread for the new competition, I realized I oopsied MAJORLY :( Well, I'm not going to let that happen next time...<makes checklist>
<DUH Now I feel so stupid! :haha: >

I eagerly await the competition results, but based on the suggestions made in the other thread, I know for sure the winner won't be me! (honestly...I'm tremendously stupid):weird:

Happy gaming:)
wickedfan

[DCWill]

Wickedfan, those suggestions were not directed solely at you. There were quite a few "oopsies" (not just by you), which was why I posted those. It wasn't meant to point anyone out, but it was meant to offer suggestions on things I felt hadn't been thought of. All the parks were good, but I wanted everyone to know some of the things I noticed which would have made the parks even better.

I'm really looking forward to the new competition for as I said, you all submitted enjoyable parks.

Edit - Had to fix something

[DWWilkin]

By the way, I was not counting the park inspector as one of the 18 staffers... Everyone is able to hire 18 staff, the Park inspector works for free :D

[wickedfan07]

DCWill, I didn't think you were pointing me out. Just sayin' that the suggestions will help me next time because I definitely made some oopsies. Thanks for the suggesttions by the way.

-wickedfan:cool:

[DWWilkin]

I played out my Lagos Park and I am pleased with it. I can see that corrections such as A Toilet, more food stands are necessary. If you as an entrant are happy with your park, run it for a year, just as the judges will do. Then look at Peep thoughts and actions and see if you might want to make changes.

218 Peeps were very Hungry at my park, and 170 were Hungry. I could readily see an error after year one....

[DWWilkin]

I have begun a concept design for a website to host our entries and other parts of the competition. But a good name for this part of the domain (sub-domain) is needed. I am throwing this open to sugestions!

Thanks

David

[HulkLocalNews]

RCT3Comp.domain.com

parkcomp.domain.com

::shrugs:: Keep it short and simple

[tikitiki]

I agree with HulkLocalNews!

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

HI all

I have been able to judge two of the entries so far. Then my Notebook display crapped out. HP is having Fedex pick thi sup tomorrow. At the moment I have the S-Video plugged into the TV so I can write this to you. Forgive me but this delays the judging for a week on my part. I know that DCWill and Tikitiki will finish there part. I will be able to use the work computer to communicate, just not play RCT3. And my wifes machine won't be able to handle it as well as mine normally could. (If it can handle it I would expect really lousy FPS)

Thanks for your understanding

David

[wickedfan07]

Sorry to hear about your computer problems:( I hope all turns out well with it.

-wickedfan:)

[tikitiki]

The same thing happened to my 21 inch screen a while ago. It all started heating up then one day it refreshed the screen but it was all black. Never worked since then. Now I have to use a crappy 15 inch screen :(

Well I hope you get your problems fixed soon :)

Cheers Tiktiki

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by DWWilkin
And my wifes machine

I have access to the forums at least so far, and email at home through my wife's machine. Tomorrow the RCT3 test... Maybe even tonight (to use a quote from Hazard Muhaha..

[rct3phreak]

Hey! I'm back on the computer for spring break because I have gotten all of my grades into the C range, but I still won't be able to judge because my time has been resticted to an hour a day.

[DWWilkin]

How about becoming an entrant for the 2nd competition???

[DWWilkin]

Update on David's ability to judge...

Sorry guys, my wifes system (purchased for the Xmas 2001) can not handle RCT. It needs a graphics card. So we'll have to wait it out for the week until HP returns my computer to me. Sorry about that. Grading the competition and my taxes will be the first things I take care of when it gets back...

[Hazard1367]

Wow, these parks remind me somewhat of Diomand Hills. Don;t know why but they do, they'rs something about them so classic which I LOVE! (I dont know why they remind me of Diamond Hills though...) Anyways, I hope you get you computer fixed soon because I can't wait to see the winning entries. I would have enteret but...
1. I suck at building parks
2.I just discovered this thread and spent about 30mins going through the whole thing.:p

[KoasterKid23]

You should try entering the new competition. Even if you aren't very good it is still lots of fun to take part in the competition and see everyone else's creations. You may get a few pointers and tips and be well on your way to making great parks of your own. I highly recommend giving it a try!
Click here and start! (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=455528)
:D :up:

[DWWilkin]

Well, it is Friday and despite the HP site saying that my computer is scheduled to ship last Wednesday, it didn't and it is still not here. So next week...

Hazard go ahead and enter the contest. The parks are small, give it a try. I think everyone who does try is having fun...

[KoasterKid23]

I have been very bored (my brother took the Xbox :mad: ) so I made a new video of "King Kong", the giant wooden koaster from Jungle Madness. I hope everyone enjoys this one! :D :up:

Click Here! (http://rapidshare.de/files/1031453/King_Kong.wmv.html)

ps:my nickname is Fergy so don't be alarmed, I didnt steal it from anyone;)

[DWWilkin]

That was cool. I enjoyed it. If you ever want to reshoot that video, having Peeps in the rest of the park walking by would add 'color' to it. It would also degrade your frame rate, but them's the breaks....

Thanks KoasterKid