4th Small Park Competition-Western Winner announced

[DWWilkin]

A small, balanced, working park...__________________________________________________
For the competiton (Updated 5/26/05):
Western Theme

31 by 31 max size (961 squares)

Maximum of each Ride type:
12 Thrill rides
6 Gentle
6 Junior
6 Others (includes Water rides)
3 Coasters

**Note that you may have 2 of the same ride (Tea cups 1 and Tea cups 2, this would count as 2 rides)

Maximum 18 stalls of various types
Maximum Staff of 18 (And as many vendors as needed)
(This does not include the Park Inspector so you could have 19 staff)
Maximum of 3 fireworks shows

Park to end day no later than midnight
90% of Paths at ground level

Criteria to win:
1) Best use of Money$$
2) Open park and run without tweaking for 1 year and see a park rating by the judges (taking an aggregate of their scores)
3) Overall total of Excitement
4) Averages of Excitement

Special achievement for highest FPS

Judging categories:
$$ spent to build park
# Guests at end of year 1
List of what guests are doing at end of year 1
List of what guests are thinking at end of year 1
Total profit at end of year 1
Park Value at end of year 1
Company value at end of year 1 (Start with 1000 only for contingency money to pay your staff.)

**Note that the Judges will open your park, open closed or testing rides, but it is better if the entrant does so. The judges will not do anything else but observe your park for a year. Judges will not modify Fireworks shows for start times or months playing.

Find the starter park here:

http://rapidshare.de/files/2004132/WesternSmall_Park.dat.html

View an Image of it here:

http://img264.echo.cx/img264/6684/westernpark3hm.jpg


Once you have the starter park place it in the Scenario Folder in your RCT Folder in your MyDocuments folder... Open and run the park as a custom scenario. You can pause as much as you want during the building of your park, or even leave the park completely paused throughout. Try not to run the park for longer than a month as you test rides. An alternative is to save the park while paused, test your coaster, and return to your saved point.


Comeptition will last for 1 month. (May 26th to June 26th)
Mulitple entries are allowed.
All entries to be listed or PM submitted to the Judges by midnight June 26th 2005

Our upload site for the parks and judging went down this month and we are working on another. Please PM me for an email so you can send me your part. Or place on a hosting site somewhere and post the location to the thread so I cna retrieve the entry.

Judges are (note that there is some descrepancy since our independent judges disappeared during the 3rd competition. We may go the route of all entrants judging following the format that has been developed):

DWWilkin
RTC3Phreak

Tikitiki (Coordinating)

Current Entrants are: (I will add to this list as entrant post in this thread, or PM or submit entries):


wickedfan07
I feel Sick
Koaster Kid
Maddack
Bokkie
DisneyFREAK1178
Vortexian
Caffinated
MrPKI
domuk
PsychoticBunny
Chickenslects3
Macbony

DC Will's Park Video from the first competition :up: :up: :up: (http://rapidshare.de/files/843599/lagoonad.wmv.html)
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[KoasterKid23]

Oh no....link doesn't work for me!:(

[KoasterKid23]

I figured it out! Here is the good link....

Click Here! (http://rapidshare.de/files/2004132/WesternSmall_Park.dat.html)

You just used the http:// twice!:D :up:

[DWWilkin]

I bet with myself that KoasterKid would be the first to find this thread and I won ;)

That link had a space between the html tag and the link... But I fixed it now... Thanks KoasterKid

[vortexian]

There is, again, a small problem with the height of the land. Here's a file where I edited that.
http://rapidshare.de/files/2009077/WesternSmall_ParkEDIT.dat.html

[DWWilkin]

Feel free to use the file in the first post, or Vortexian's...

I suppose if someone wanted to really cheat, you could build 60% or more of the park in the scenario editor, then save that, shift it into the scenario file and build the rest of the park there. That would be a bad thing :( But the judges would get a feel for the discrepancy in the amount one who did that spent on his park... So far no one has done anything like that in these competitions...

[DisneyFREAK1178]

YAY! Ok I will most definately not screw this one up.

[rct3phreak]

I can judge this one. School is almost out so i do not have limited computer time anymore.

[DisneyFREAK1178]

Hey, why is the video always of Paradise Lagoon?

[DWWilkin]

The reason Is that I just copy the first post of the thread from competition to competition and then tweak it a little. If you read back through all four competitions I am sure you can find other things that I should change...

I get the hint though. I'll lokk through things and update the video file later to not only one of our newer ones, but perhaps uploading and posting all the videos...

[vortexian]

Well, here's a start in my park. And a view of my three top attractions too!
http://img150.echo.cx/img150/5248/shot00186zv.jpg
It's a start, so things like colors can change.

[DWWilkin]

Looks like Vortexian is putting at least 2 of the three allowable coasters. I should imagine that more coasters leads to more excitement (hint, hint)

D :)

[vortexian]

This is a start. Don't forget that other attractions also can have alot of excitement! And on this picture, you see three things that are exciting.

[wickedfan07]

File downloaded, park started. I WILL NOT miss this one!

I have installed two coasters but both are kind ofshort and boring, so I may go for one more exciting one...not sure yet.

-wickedfan

[DWWilkin]

If I was entering a coaster, and of course I am not, but as a guideline to help you go for the win (of course you may go for the aesthetic, so that is fine too, a beautiful park has a great chance to win over a cluttered park, but the AI dynamics favor this for some of the other scores) I would target what we have had to do in many of the scenarios, look for high excitement, high intensity (remember the formula (E+I)/2=Ticket $$$) low nausea. We didn't have to meet those criteria in the scenarios, but we often had to get excitement of 6 on our coasters for Tycoon...

And certainly if you had three coasters of excitement 6 in the park, then that is 18 exctiement points. I have to tell you that there have been some parks submitted in earlier contests that started with that in their coaster base and that had all the thrill rides and other rides to add on top of it. While some parks did not even have a total of 18 excitement points from their entire parks worth of rides. As highest total excitement is worth 5 of 80 points to the one who has the highest, and 4 to the second place, it is worth exploring...

[i_feel_sick]

Sorry guys, I can't enter this competition... circumstances (gotta go to university)... I really want to, but anyways... c ya'll probably next year or in some mid-term vacations :D

[Maddack]

As previously stated, I don't like western theme. Now this is a dilemma since I do like wooden coasters. Perhaps I will give it a go after all. But I won't start until we get a winner for competition #2.

[DisneyFREAK1178]

Well, here's what I got done so far...

I kinda wanted to steer away from the entire park being a town setting.

I am having one half be town, and the other be Western "outback"http://img195.echo.cx/my.php?image=shot00286ws.jpg

[DWWilkin]

With RCT3Phreak back, we have 2 judges signed up for this comp. perhaps we can score this traditionally and score comps 2 and 3 communally? Comments please. I shall be posting the parks and the way to judge in each thread before the end of the weekend.

DisneyPhreak, I count at least 9 rides so far... Way to go. I like the wooden coaster...

Wooden Coasters are my favorite, and when I go to parks I prefer them then any other. Back in RCT1 I often imported in Steve Franks Wooden coasters. I think he had a Giant Dipper which I recall being ont he Santa Cruz Boardwalk, but I may be wrong...

I spent 2 of my college years at UCSC and my last day before going home, I made a point to go down to the Boardwalk and ride the coaster...

[rct3phreak]

And as I have said in previous small park competitions, scenery doesn't judge as high for me becase it makes my computer run slower and I am more into thrills than frills. And by the way, DWWilkin, that community judging of comp's two and three is a good idea.

[DisneyFREAK1178]

8 rides actually.

I LOVE MY RIVER RAPIDS!!!!

Even though it's the shortest ride, I think I made it the best

[Caffinated]

Hello there, new poster to the forum (been lurking for a couple weeks, been playing the series for years though) and thought I'd join in the fun. :)

I've created New Bodie (name and background based on Bodie, California, a goldrush era ghost town). It is still needing some final touches (like fixing the sign names after the original contracter spelled Bodie wrong), but is mostly complete.

I have setup the info pages (http://cafeens_corner.tripod.com/RCT3/NewBodie.htm) for it, but the park is not quite ready for submission. (Will be adding the park to that site, so no need to email.)

A couple of the shots (10 shots on info pages).
http://cafeens_corner.tripod.com/RCT3/NewBodie0000.jpg
Looking into the park from outside, toward Wild Stallion.
http://cafeens_corner.tripod.com/RCT3/NewBodie0007.jpg
Looking toward Wild Stallion from the northwest. (The brown spike you see here is a graphics glitch that I have is most 3d games, old video card/drivers to blame).

Will be completing the park over the next couple days, will drop a PM with link to let you know when it's done. If anyone has any comments or whatnot, let me know, will be glad to hear from you. :)

[KoasterKid23]

Holy ____(you pick a word) your park looks awesome! Great job!:eek: :up:

[rct3phreak]

Your park looks awesome! Well done so far!

[DisneyFREAK1178]

I just want to see if I got the hang of posting downloadable parks

ok lemme see, try downloading it and tell me if it works

http://rapidshare.de/files/2073260/Western.rar.html

[rct3phreak]

It works.

[DisneyFREAK1178]

YAY

So u saw it?

[rct3phreak]

I don't have winRar, but it downloaded off of RapidShare. Can you provide a link for WinRar so that I can download it and see your park?

[KoasterKid23]

Here are some pics of Longhorn Park! I am in a dueling coaster mood for some reason...

http://img244.echo.cx/img244/4278/longhornpark17nl.jpg

http://img244.echo.cx/img244/4344/longhornpark24zo.jpg

http://img244.echo.cx/img244/5213/longhornpark38zo.jpg

[GuyChicago]

:D Great pics! I always love dueling coasters. Does it raise the excitement level like in RCT1&2?

[DWWilkin]

Caffinated, looks great!!! Though the stats are posted on the park, note to other entrants that Caffinated said he isn't quite finished yet.

[DWWilkin]

KoasterKid, that is massive, how does it play out. A video of just the ride would be cool...

[Caffinated]

Thanks for the compliments :). Was a bit nervous as this is the first thing I've shared here and looking through various other parks in the exchange can be a bit...intimidating.

The pages are there to give a feel of information for a real park, hence all the stats and stuff (and I was really bored).

KoasterKid, that is a heck of a nice wooden coaster you got going on there. Nice stuff :).

rct3phreak, you can download winrar here (http://www.download.com/3000-2250-10007677.html).

Thanks again for the comments :).

[Maddack]

Cafeen, are you posting in the right topic? Your park indeed looks nice, but this is a competition topic.

I was at Bakken (or Dyrehavsbakken) in Denmark this last weekend. I rode the Rutschebanen rollercoaster from the 1930's and boy was it rough! There are not many smooth woodies out there anymore. Good thing we got steel!

[vortexian]

Originally posted by DisneyFREAK1178
I just want to see if I got the hang of posting downloadable parks

ok lemme see, try downloading it and tell me if it works

http://rapidshare.de/files/2073260/Western.rar.html
It works. And it blasted my idea of a good park to smithereens:cry:
Well, I'm currently doing a second park. I'll see when I get these two done.

[rct3phreak]

Thanks for the link, caffinated.

Disneyfreak, i will be checking out your park in a few minutes. I will try to post comments before I have to go to school.

[rct3phreak]

Great park, disneyfreak!! Very well laid out and the rides, I didn't think anyone could jam that many rides together and and still make the park look good. Overall, very well done!

[Caffinated]

Yeah, it's the right topic :)

The park is for the aformentioned competition...I'm just not very competitive so I don't particulary care about keeping it all secret ;).

[DisneyFREAK1178]

LMAO SAME WITH ME!!

Hey Vortexian don't let me ruin it. If you haven't deleted it, just go for it. We'll see who can pull it off better;)

Wow I never thought it would be that good.

Thanks for the comments everyone I truly appreciate them

[vortexian]

Originally posted by DisneyFREAK1178
LMAO SAME WITH ME!!

Hey Vortexian don't let me ruin it. If you haven't deleted it, just go for it. We'll see who can pull it off better;)

Wow I never thought it would be that good.

Thanks for the comments everyone I truly appreciate them
delete it? my jewel? No way:D I'm now working on two parks, instead of one:D

[DisneyFREAK1178]

oooo lol ok

[vortexian]

Impression of my second park:
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=5/15015390994.jpg&s=x4
One coaster will be added, the TNT stock (building next to TNT vortex) will get a roof. Shops will be added etc.

[MrPKI]

Hey I'm new here and thought it would be interesting to join this competition. I started my park yesterday and it's starting to fill in. By the way, all of your parks look great!

[KoasterKid23]

Great! Good luck MrPKI!:D :up:

[vortexian]

Originally posted by MrPKI
Hey I'm new here and thought it would be interesting to join this competition. I started my park yesterday and it's starting to fill in. By the way, all of your parks look great!
Great!:up: The more peeps, the more fun.

[Bokkie]

I don't like the looks of the starter park..

Is it allowed to build yourself a starters park?
(I'll check the original starterspark for scenery & atraction)


I have a park somewhere, with a truelly nice entrance, but the entrance starts outside the park... (Looks a bit like some of the scenarios, where a trainstation leads the peeps in)

Can I do that too for this compo (since the scenery & train outside the park doesn't affect anything)? It looks so much nicer.

[DWWilkin]

You can take the starter park, open it in the scenario editor, instead of the scenario folder, and add your outside scenery and ride. I dont think that you should shift or change the gate though, everyone should have the same park to play with. You can use the one I provided or the other from Vortexian.


After you have added the outside elements, you then of course should save and place the park back in the scenario folder and run the competition as a scenario..

[Bokkie]

That's even a better methode!

[MrPKI]

I want to clarify something...You said that water rides count as other rides. Does this include Splash Boats, Log Flumes, and River Rapids Rides, or are these rides considered coasters? Just wanted to make sure before I build too much.:)

[KoasterKid23]

I am almost 100% sure that they count as a coaster... atleast they did in my original first competition park. I think dwwilkin defines a coaster as anything that is build through the roller coaster section.

[DisneyFREAK1178]

Phew at least I still have 3

[DWWilkin]

Originally posted by MrPKI
I want to clarify something...You said that water rides count as other rides. Does this include Splash Boats, Log Flumes, and River Rapids Rides, or are these rides considered coasters? Just wanted to make sure before I build too much.:)

KoasterKid is correct, those would be coasters, water coasters, but count as one of your 3 coasters. Water rides, such as canoes, rowboats, the submarine (in a western theme park???) are water rides and are in the other ride total...

[KoasterKid23]

I forgot to answer a couple questions about the dueling coaster...sorry! Well the dueling coaster did turn out great. I did get them to finish very close togethor, either coaster can win depending on which train has the most burger eaters! :p As for the excitement ratings, I was kinda dissapointed because the ratings virtually didn't very much even though they are syncronized... They might have went up the slightest bit though like maybe one hundredth of a poin.:( I will try to make a video of the coaster when my park is done! I was wondering how to take the video though... If I "ride" from the front you can't see the other train very much. I was thinking of taking the video from the back seat in order to check out the action!

[rct3phreak]

Ctrl+Shift+F11 will start the video recorder, same key combination will stop it.

[DWWilkin]

I'm sure KoasterKid knows that... He has done some nice work for us while you were away... If you record twice through, once on the back seat, once on the front, you could edit the videos and make a movie of it...

[DisneyFREAK1178]

so DWWillkin have you downloaded mine yet?

[DWWilkin]

Sheepish Grin...

I have downloaded it, but I didn't have the rar so I didn't open it.

Then for RCT3 in general (I have to post competitions 2 and 3 for judging, I have to write up scenario 18) I don't have time... (Poor excuse but we are running 9.5 hours here at the factory daily. I have been remodeling the basement into a Victorian library (anyone want to see pictures) and that is a couple hours of work each night, followed by a quick bite and then a couple hours working on the last class in my MBA course. (five and half more weeks....)

Sorry Disney, I'll look at it tonight. I promise...

[DisneyFREAK1178]

OOOO! Victorian Library?! Pics please!!!

[DWWilkin]

Here's one


http://img188.echo.cx/img188/277/050601basementremodel0046mp.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[DisneyFREAK1178]

OOOOO pretty!

[rct3phreak]

I have one word for Victorian Library...

BLEH!!!!

[DWWilkin]

What is Bleh???

[DisneyFREAK1178]

hmmmmmm.nothing nice i predict

[DWWilkin]

DisneyFreak I looked at your park. I like the wooden coaster, that is cool...

[DisneyFREAK1178]

Thank you!

[rct3phreak]

Originally posted by DWWilkin
What is Bleh???

Awful, horrible, disgusting, horrid, nasty, gross, ick, shall I go on?

[DWWilkin]

YOu know there is a lot of hard work, sweat equity and money invested in making that room addition (plus it has increased the value of the house by a lot of money...)

[rct3phreak]

I know, I just strongly despise of Victorian theming. That must have taken a lot of hard work.

[DisneyFREAK1178]

I love Victorian!

very elegant

*UK accent*
Don't let this unseemly, style urchin take away inspiration from you.

[KoasterKid23]

Originally posted by DisneyFREAK1178
Don't let this unseemly, style urchin take away inspiration from you.
Yeah no kidding!...............GO TWINS!:D :up:

[KoasterKid23]

Originally posted by me
GO TWINS!:D :up:
You just killed my joke with your new avatar! lol... I play baseball too and it is definately my favorite sport! I will be a sophmore next year, but I am making a really good effort to play on the varsity team! :D :up:

Back on topic....

[Caffinated]

Question on the ride count...

Does using pieces of ride as scenery count toward the total? (Basically non-running rides that wouldn't even be able to be opened?) Or only rides that can be opened and ridden by the peeps?

[DWWilkin]

If the ride is in the park, then it counts, if it is not in the park, then it doesn't. Frankly it would be surprising if you could fit more rides in the park then were allowed... Certainly you could do four or five coasters, but that is why there are limits in each of the categories...

[Caffinated]

Ok, just to be sure I'm clear...

It is not a ride persay, but rather a bit of track that has no stations, cars, or anything, just being used for show. This will count as one of the rides then, correct?

[Bokkie]

I think it shouldn't count since it aint a real atraction.

Don't forget that you have to pay a monthly fee for keeping those "no atractions just show pieces" open ..

Quite dumb but it can count if you have a lot..


Btw, there are a lot generic theme atractions, but I guess that's correct 'cause the limit of western atractions?

[DWWilkin]

ON generic attractions, those have always been allowed in all the theme parks. How many parks does one go to that does not have a Merry-Go-Round/Carousel or look at it another way, how many Coasters are considered theme, and how many are considered Generic, or where does the Log Flume fit in?

For using things like some Coaster track to accent your building structures, I have seen that before, sure that won't count. I am interested to see how you integrate that.

[Bokkie]

Something like this :

http://users.pandora.be/bok/RCT/Texa-Q_01.jpg


Both the train and the chairlift are outside the park (Texa-Q scenario). I can imagine something like that inside the park,
for some wirering or something like that..

[rct3phreak]

Originally posted by KoasterKid23
You just killed my joke with your new avatar! lol... I play baseball too and it is definately my favorite sport! I will be a sophmore next year, but I am making a really good effort to play on the varsity team! :D :up:

Back on topic....

You mean I killed it with my new avatar? Baseball is my favorite sport, too. My favorite team is the Dodgers. I will only be a sophomore next year too but I will only be on the JV team as there is a lot of talent at my school that is older than me.

[DWWilkin]

RCT3Phreak, are you in Los Angeles? I was a dodger fan growing up because I live in LA. I prefer Football now, which oddly enough we do not have a team...

[rct3phreak]

Central California. San Jouaquin Valley. About 90 miles south of Fresno. My mom grew up in Southern Clifornia so it is only natural that I am a Dodger fan.

[domuk]

is the comp still open if so add me if im not too late :)

[DWWilkin]

Domuk is in...

[Bokkie]

I made a own entrance, used the starters park.

I changed whole landscape, changed the map a bit (it still 128x128 but north edge = - 8 lines, south edge = + 8 lines, to create a path ..), but the entrance arrow is still at the same spot, just as the entrance.

I changed the entrance gate though, since the "fences" fit better in a building.

I build half the entrance in the scenario editor (since it's outside the park) :

http://users.pandora.be/bok/RCT/Western_01.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/bok/RCT/Western_02.jpg


Other side of the building will be build in the normal game play (paused ofcourse :)) because all I build in the park has to be payed :)

Screenshots of the full building will come..

[MrPKI]

I couldn't get that link to work...but maybe that's just my computer. Anyway, I have another question. I accidentally brought my park all the way to the 3rd or May because I didn't know that putting on the coaster cam while the game was paused took time. So my question is...Can I test the rides/run time, ect. until March 1st year 2 and then submit it aslong as I don't open the park? Thanks for your help.

P.S. I finished putting in all the rides after I had to delete a boring coaster that was in a very tight spot, and it took awhile to find another coaster that fit with good stats. I might have some teaser screenshots soon.;)

[DWWilkin]

Each month you pay an upkeep for the rides, even with the park closed, and you pay salaries. It is best to save a copy of what you have now. Test the rides. If you like the rides, go back to the saved copy. If you need to tweak the rides, go to the saved copy tweak them, save again, and then test once more. Once you have a result you are happy with submit that...

[MrPKI]

OK that makes sense. So you can judge for one year no matter what date it starts at?

[DWWilkin]

After a few months, the # of peeps in the park stabilize, the fps stabilizes, the monthly profit stabilizes. (In that first year) The park rating stabilize, the park value, etc...

So I get to 10/31 and stop and record all the numbers. What is clear is that if you are making good profit each month, then every extra month of operation from when you turn it over to 10/31 adds to that score, but that is only one of the criteria needed to do well.

I have pointed out in several posts including the first post of this thread how to save your game, test your park, and thus be able to turn in a park relatively close to March 1. When I designed some entries for this series, I have been able to create then no later then March 10 with this strategy and one was March 2...

In any case a few thousand $$ might not be the difference between 1st and 2nd in the profit category from Monthly income, what is important is not turning in a park that is after July 30th... Three months should be more than enough to get your park to full capacity...

[MrPKI]

OK thanks:cool:

[vortexian]

BE AFRAID...BE VERY AFRAID. because here is a vid of my park!:p
And guys, what do you think of it? This vid is shot while it was over one year, but the save is on 1 March. keep that in mind

EDIT: of course I forget to post the video. Stupid me...
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Ranch

[domuk]

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i cant download teh starter pack which i assume includes the map/scenario if someone would be kind enough to upload it to a different place.

thx

[vortexian]

a few posts below the first one is a second starter pack by me. Try that one

[domuk]

its rapid share it doesnt like me and i don't have an acount :-(

[DWWilkin]

At Rapidshare do you hit the Free button for the download?

At the bottom of the page there are two buttons, One says Free and one says Premium. What happens when you use Free?
Edit-Okay i see what happens, can you try again tomorrow, or PM me and I will email you the file tonight when I get home...)

Vortexian---That was great. I like the Log Flume intermingling with the coaster, and the Wild Mouse (is it a wild mouse) in the building is smart!

[domuk]

yes i hit the free button i just need to download from a diff host :S

[vortexian]

Thanks DWWilkin

[Bokkie]

It's a pitty that the track of the wild mouse goes trough the wooden wall..

But besides that, whoow :eek:

[psychoticBunny]

I know I'm late but I'd like to jump on this contest and try to finish in time :)

[KoasterKid23]

Originally posted by psychoticBunny
I know I'm late but I'd like to jump on this contest and try to finish in time :)
That would be great! Anyone else should feel free to give it a try too! We have had many contestants start even a day before the end! :haha: :up:

[tikitiki]

I started this project about a year ago and picked it up a while ago and I now am finishing it!

http://rct3.gatesofreach.com/downloads/

This is your NEW Uploader!!!

remember to read the TOS first...

Cheers Tikitiki

[DWWilkin]

PsychoticBunny is in...

[vortexian]

I have no idea where spychoticbunny is in, but I tried the new upload and it WORKS
-LINK REMOVED-

[tikitiki]

unless this is just a test park, could you remove the link? unless this comp is over(maybe im a little late on the time?) But thats why if you go to the parks and scenerios section, I've suspended the download part, so those that upload, please remember your link...And if you forget it give me a pm and the name of the file and I'll get ya the link for it!

Also, I may start working on adding details to the project such as including stats(and if possible I may work with jonwil and build a java program to automaticly fill them in!) and a screenshot...In the screenshots section they are automaticly parsed as images!

Cheers Tikitiki

[vortexian]

Remove the link? SURE! ehhh, why exactly?

[tikitiki]

You don't want contestants to steal your ideas do you?

[vortexian]

well, I have not much of a problem with that. everybody uses things in their own kind of way. So if they see something special in my park that they will use in their own park, they can. If they steal my entrance building or coaster, it is a slightly different story. But then I will take action, so thieves, be prepared!

[Thelonias]

I'm loving your parks! Way more organised than any of mine yet...:haha:

Anyway, this is an old quote from page 1:
I think he had a Giant Dipper which I recall being ont he Santa Cruz Boardwalk, but I may be wrong...

Wow! I want that coaster; I rode it many years ago. It was an awesome roller coaster :up:. I often got squished on the side of the car on the sharp turns though. And also, My all time favourite coaster is the wooden. Can't beat it. I almost always get 7+ excitement ratings... But I think that's normal.

Anyway, looking good (I'm not much of a contest person...at all so I won't be joining :()

Keep it up!

'lonias

[Chickenselects]

Is it to late to join? Please say no :)

[DWWilkin]

Welcome aboard to Chickenselects3

I think we are at 12 now...

For those who are interested, we are still taking entrants until the deadline of June 26th...

[macbony]

I just got back into this game after a few months' hiatus. This competition sounds fun so count me in. I don't think I have what it takes to win, yet, but it's fun to have a goal and yet no pre-existing park to contend with :-)

[DWWilkin]

Welcome Macbony

Some hints for all our new contestants.

Think lots of rides...

The correlation is that you get more excitement with more rides
Then you get more peeps, who pay more money.

Because of that, don't forget your toilets... And Food stalls,

DCWill in the first or second competition wrote a very good analysis.

Good Luck...

David

[KoasterKid23]

Great macbony! That is 13 now! That is a huge jump from the 4 people that entered in the first competition! lol :haha: :up: My park is coming along pretty good. I will try to post some new pics today or tommorow.:D :up:

[rct3phreak]

Welcome aboard macbony and chickenselects.

[macbony]

Thanks for the warm welcome. Now I'm at work waiting for 5pm to roll around so I can catch up.. I'm 2 weeks behind!

[MrPKI]

Hey I finished my park this past week and thought I'd give out a few teaser screens;) Here's the link:

Screens (http://www.geocities.com/mrpki/rct3.html)

More to come...

DWWilkin: I sent my park to you via PM, hope you like it

Macbony, ChickenSelects, Psychotic Bunny, Domuk: Great to have you all in the competition. This is going to be lots of fun. Can't wait for the next one!

[KoasterKid23]

Awesome pics mrPKI! Here is a quick pic of Longhorn Park!

http://img174.echo.cx/img174/1918/longhornpark41fc.jpg

*Click on the pic for a better version! Notice that the [IMG] code is off in this forum. You need to use [screenshot] in order to post a pic.

[rct3phreak]

Great pics guys! Keep 'em coming!

[MrPKI]

Wow KoasterKid you really packed your park. There doesn't seem to be a square that isn't occupied. May I ask how many attractions you were able to fit? Or is that a secret:rolleyes: Those go karts are really cool by the way.

[KoasterKid23]

Thanks mrPKI! I believe I have 14 rides installed so far...;) That is if you count the dueling wooden coaster as two seperate rides. I am going to attempt to add one or two more thrill rides if possible.:D :up:

[psychoticBunny]

Everyone else is posting pictures so I thought I'd get in on the action. Here is a little shot of the start of my park :).

http://img240.echo.cx/img240/5170/shot00004kj.jpg

1 - A Lasso Thrill ride
2 - A few food/drink stands :)
3 - A hotel for guests to stay in while at the park.
4 - A place for guests to crap out the top notch park food.

I had some graphical issues it seems while taking the screenshot, the buildings look right in game I promise!

I just hope I don't run out of money :(

[Caffinated]

had some graphical issues it seems while taking the screenshot, the buildings look right in game I promise!
You just hit the geometry imposter distance. At this point, scenery* goes into low detail mode to save on FPS and resources :). Not an issue or anything. Can increase it under the video options when you take shots like this.

*Normal scenery mostly. Custom scenery doesn't have very good low detail forms as we haven't actually created models for it nor do we actually have the method for it yet.

[MrPKI]

Your park looks good so far. What kind of coaster is that? It looks like a vertical drop but I couldn't tell.

I added 3 more pics to my screenshot page.
Link (http://www.geocities.com/mrpki/rct3.html)
I'll probably post an overview of the park soon.

[psychoticBunny]

Originally posted by MrPKI
Your park looks good so far. What kind of coaster is that? It looks like a vertical drop but I couldn't tell.

I added 3 more pics to my screenshot page. URL=http://www.geocites.com/mrpki/rct3.html]Link[/URL]
I'll probably put up an shot of the whole park soon.


Yea, it's a short vertical drop coaster, runs 4 trains with just about no stacking (without guests riding obviously :( ).

[macbony]

I have a few questions. Sorry if they've already been asked and answered, but I've looked and didn't see the answers, but I haven't poured through the previous threads with a comb either, so, again, sorry if this is redundant.

1) I'm kinda new to RCT3 in a "hardcore" sense. When I played before, it was without changing to the Freelook camera (man was that transition initially hard...) and without ever touching the advanced fireworks editor. I notice now that there are spotlight fireworks. Before I spend too much time messing with them instead of working on my park, has anyone had experience with them, how much do they cost to run for a night (e.g. is it worth it in a competition where money is a factor, even if it looks really cool?), and would that count against the 3 fireworks shows?

2) I watched the video from the first competition and loved it. However, I've never played with the flyby camera and am not all that inclined to learning a movie editing program so I could make something that cool - at least not until I play with soaked. Is it expected for us to take videos of our parks for these competitions? I assume not but I don't want to assume.

3) I'm trying to pack as many rides as I can into the park, but I want it to look nice, too. How much of the judging is looks and how much are how your park runs? I'm more interested in making a cool looking park than winning, which is why I wanted to know about the spotlights.

4) As I'm at work and have a help desk job currently, I have a ton of downtime and have been mapping out basic ideas in Illustrator. Does anyone know of a FAQ listing the size of the rides? The only Gamefaqs faq is incomplete and appears to be abandoned. I'll probably jot the dimensions down tonight, but I'll probably start building coasters and forget again.

And finally:
5) I've looked and searched and can't find anything with the keywords I'm using, but when designing coasters, do you tend to develop section-by-section or do you go to a particular feature on the map and pop up an interesting combination, delete the connecting track and fill in the blanks? My coaster skills (especially for woodies) are quite lacking and I'd like like to know how you guys got started and what made you better beyond just practice (though I spent like 4 hours yesterday trying to make a good woodie for my park and couldn't get it near what I wanted).

Thanks to the people running and judging this competition, too. I've not even got a piece down, yet, but I'm already having a blast. I guess question 6 is going to be, will the next competition include Soaked? I intend to get it (I'm a waterpark fiend) at release, so it wouldn't be a problem for me, but I'm assuming there are some that won't get it.

[vortexian]

1 I don't work with fireworks in my park, but I'm sure it will count.
2 If you win, a video of your park will be taken. So don't worry.
3 If I'm right it's 50-50. Correct me on this one.
4 I have no idea. but the sizes are shown in the attraction choice menu.
5You don't need to make a woodie for this park. But I always make a small plan in my head, pick the terrain I gonna use and start building. While building I always check the coaster to see if he makes it. You just have to practice with those coasters. trial & Error, you know. I suggest to use the coaster editor to practice it.

[macbony]

Originally posted by vortexian
1 I don't work with fireworks in my park, but I'm sure it will count.
2 If you win, a video of your park will be taken. So don't worry.
3 If I'm right it's 50-50. Correct me on this one.
4 I have no idea. but the sizes are shown in the attraction choice menu.
5You don't need to make a woodie for this park. But I always make a small plan in my head, pick the terrain I gonna use and start building. While building I always check the coaster to see if he makes it. You just have to practice with those coasters. trial & Error, you know. I suggest to use the coaster editor to practice it.

I know I don't NEED a woodie, but it's a western theme and it just feels... right. If only I made some that didn't suck. I'll just keep hammering away at it, thought. :-) Thanks for the reply

[vortexian]

You can try a wooden wild mine coaster, they are easy to build and fit perfectly in the theme. Or a log flume

[DWWilkin]

I thought I should tackle this, though Vortexian has done a good job of answering some of these...

Originally posted by macbony


1) I'm kinda new to RCT3 in a "hardcore" sense. When I played before, it was without changing to the Freelook camera (man was that transition initially hard...) and without ever touching the advanced fireworks editor. I notice now that there are spotlight fireworks. Before I spend too much time messing with them instead of working on my park, has anyone had experience with them, how much do they cost to run for a night (e.g. is it worth it in a competition where money is a factor, even if it looks really cool?), and would that count against the 3 fireworks shows?
Here you can have many spotlights in the park, but only 3 overall shows. Each show can use many different firework launchers and can last for a long time, overlap, etc. The point tally for fireworks goes to the overall point award which can be worth up to 40 points.


2) I watched the video from the first competition and loved it. However, I've never played with the flyby camera and am not all that inclined to learning a movie editing program so I could make something that cool - at least not until I play with soaked. Is it expected for us to take videos of our parks for these competitions? I assume not but I don't want to assume.?
I am not good with the ASE yet either (I think renaming a peep D Lean is how you get to it) But some are good, and it does take practice as with all things to get better. Vodhin and Klinn have tutorials about them and are well worth reading. After you build your park, I would go the the trouble of playing with the video mode on your coasters. Also if you build an observation tower, you can use Coastercam there and pull the shot away from the preset and get a fun spinning view of your park...



3) I'm trying to pack as many rides as I can into the park, but I want it to look nice, too. How much of the judging is looks and how much are how your park runs? I'm more interested in making a cool looking park than winning, which is why I wanted to know about the spotlights.?
Vortexian is right 50% is subjective. The judges rate the park on a 1 to 10 scale and each point is worth 4 points towards your final score. I do have to point out that there is a corrolation between number of rides, excitement, peeps in the park, park rating and park value. Certainly having a great deal of rides pushes you towards those higher values. A park with six rides, even if beautiful may be stuck at getting a 10 subjective from all the judges, but losing in all other categories, while a park crammed with stuff may get 30 to 40 points from winning in the 8 categories, and then get a subjective socore of 7 which is 28 points and take the win...



4) As I'm at work and have a help desk job currently, I have a ton of downtime and have been mapping out basic ideas in Illustrator. Does anyone know of a FAQ listing the size of the rides? The only Gamefaqs faq is incomplete and appears to be abandoned. I'll probably jot the dimensions down tonight, but I'll probably start building coasters and forget again.?
The Prima guide lists how much each ride takes in squares. Sorry, I do not know of an online resource for this.



And finally:
5) I've looked and searched and can't find anything with the keywords I'm using, but when designing coasters, do you tend to develop section-by-section or do you go to a particular feature on the map and pop up an interesting combination, delete the connecting track and fill in the blanks? My coaster skills (especially for woodies) are quite lacking and I'd like like to know how you guys got started and what made you better beyond just practice (though I spent like 4 hours yesterday trying to make a good woodie for my park and couldn't get it near what I wanted).

Thanks to the people running and judging this competition, too. I've not even got a piece down, yet, but I'm already having a blast. I guess question 6 is going to be, will the next competition include Soaked? I intend to get it (I'm a waterpark fiend) at release, so it wouldn't be a problem for me, but I'm assuming there are some that won't get it.

I am always surprised at doing something when building a coaster and I get offered a loop, or something special. I never can recreate it twice. But I know when I want one, I place different combinations of pieces until I do get it if I need it in a certain spot. I guee the only advice I can give here is experimentation.

Good Luck

[wickedfan07]

Augh! I completely forgot about this! I'll get to work ASAP though, I think I had started a park...hmmm.

In response to the above post, you can also get into the Attract Sequence Edtor (ASE) by pressing Ctrl + Shift + 0 .

Happy gaming
wickedfan

[Maddack]

I'm still not in this competition since we have no winner for #2 and #3... it is likely that I will be off the net for a while, so don't be surprised if you don't see me anymore (at least until August).

[MrPKI]

Well the competition ends a week from today (Sunday). I just wanted to remind people to turn in their parks. Most of you probably remebered, but I thought I'd just throw this out.

By the way, have you had a chance to take a look at my park, DWWilkin? No rush to view it; you can wait until judging starts. I just wondered if you had.

Again, Remember to turn in your parks

[DWWilkin]

I have had a chance to look at the park.

Maddack, if you are out there, I need park #3 becuase that ended up in website I can't get to of TikiTiki's

This contest is great. I shall be working out the judging for contest 2 and 3 (I know you've heard that before but it has been 11 hour days for me lately)

Thanks

David

[tikitiki]

Sorry DWWilkin...

i'll pm you how to access the files

[DWWilkin]

Judging

Here is a layout of the what we need to judge for competitions 2 and 3. I think at this point in time the best way to do this will be to open this up to all of the current entrants...

Don't judge your own park

I shall provide in the next few posts links to each competitions parks so you can download them

Then you can fill out the judging sheet and email me your results. You can PM me, or you can post your results in a post and I shall compile it. Perhaps if we want we can start a seperate thread for the judging (chime in please)

Here is the form and a link to the excel form I use:
Park Name
Entrant
Judge

##
# of Peeps in park 10/31
Park Rating 10/31
FPS 10/31 (rename a peep "FPS")

$$
Cost of Park
Remaining $$ (100,000- Cost of Park)

$$
Cash 10/31
Profit 10/31 (This is current cash-Remaining $$ from above)
Park Value 10/31
Company Value 10/31

# Fireworks (3)

# Shops
# Food Stalls
# Drink Stalls
# Other
Total of (18)

# Janitors
# Mechanics
# Security
# Entertainers
Total of (18)

## Excitement
# Coasters (3)
# Junior (6)
# Thrill (12)
# Gentle (6)
# Other Rides (6)

Total Rides/Excitement
Average Excitement

Subjective Rating 1-10



http://rapidshare.de/files/2572839/SmallPark.xls.html

to use the form, or send me feedback, we of course need your name, and the park you are judging. Take the financial readings

Then run the park, you can do this at FF until 10/31. Rename a peep if you want to award the optional FPS award please... Then record the other numbers. Some like # of staff and stalls is to ensure the submitted park is within the guidelines.

In each of the categories of rides add the total of those rides 5 thrill rides of average excitement of 3 each means 15 excitement points on that line. This is a validation to ensure that the numbers I have are correct.

The judging is 5 points for first place, 4 for second, etc in these categories:

Least cost of Park
Most Peeps
Highest Park Rating
Greatest Profit
Highest park Value
Highest Company Value
Highest Total excitement
Highest average excitement

and then the subjective rating which is worth 4 to 40 points. Your score of 1 to 10, times 4 is the value...

Any questions, please ask.

[DWWilkin]

Competition 2, the Retro Sci-Fi Parks:

Koaster Kid with 23Zooloo
http://rapidshare.de/files/2514992/koasterkid23zooloo.dat.html

I Feel Sick with scifitribute
http://rapidshare.de/files/2515009/scifitribute.dat.html

and Maddack
http://rapidshare.de/files/2515027/maddack.dat.html

[Bokkie]

Sorry but I can't make it in time anymore :(
Sucks bigtime since Western is my favorite theme ..

I'll be happy to judge though (if necessary)

Good luck everyone !

[DWWilkin]

This competition ends Saturday night at midnight.... I think the next one, which will be Generic as i recall will run for the entirety of July. After that, perhaps a park with all themes, and then some Soaked fun???

At this point I think I have 3 parks turned in...

Tonight I should be adding to the judging posts for the 3rd Competition...

If Bokkie does not enter, but becomes a judge we would be back to our panel of 3 judges, or does the community like to gave everyone also be able to judge provided they judge by the deadline?

[KoasterKid23]

I downloaded everything! I don't think I will be able to finish in a while though! I will be playing Soaked all day, then we leave for Minnesota on Thursday and we won't get back until Tuesday! My brother has a hockey tourney all weeked and we are going to a twins game then Valleyfair! (www.valleyfair.com) on monday! I guess I can try to get them finished in the next couple days if I have enough time! That also means that I have to submit Longhorn Park a couple days early too! Oops! I better go finish up! :p :up:

[tikitiki]

ddwilkin, what happened...Why did you not use my system?

[DWWilkin]

KoasterKid,

If we can get the final of Longhorn before you go on vacation, then that is in by the deadline (or submit what you have at that time, you never know...) But for judging the parks, I am thinking we will do the judigning for the 2nd and 3rd parks between now and July4th, so I hope that gives you enough time to come back and chime in. These take less than an hour to sift through I have found...

David

[KoasterKid23]

OK... thanks DWWilkin!

[DWWilkin]

Tiki-I found one park there for this contest...

I know you have been out with Soaked while we had the judging for contest 2 and then all of contest 3. We have had some problems with getting the judges, so for those contests we will do this community judging...

Here at contest 4 Western, we can go back to the system we started with the first contest, unless the community chimes in and says that would like to all judge... (I think that might be a viable alternative...)

(I'm also having a little problem with your system right now, I couldn't figure out how to access it to see if there were more then one park uploaded right now... Just when I had the Nick's Video thing figured out, it goes down.... And I think we've lost Maddack's Spooky Park for ever...)

[tikitiki]

Okey first off I pmed you how to access the files ddwilkin and I talked to NicksVideo and his account got deleted. no more tycoon3d to use. Sorry but thats how things work

you can check to see if there are more parks by going to the main page (http://rct3.gatesofreach.com/downloads/) and clicking Parks & Scenarios...

and I'll check if there are more parks...

edit: There is still only 1 park uploaded there :-/

[KoasterKid23]

I just finished Longhorn Park! I will upload it in a bit, but first here are some awesome screenshots!

Pics:

http://img291.echo.cx/img291/5691/bronco4dt.jpg

http://img291.echo.cx/img291/9339/desertmonkeys6tz.jpg

http://img291.echo.cx/img291/1723/finaloverview0yo.jpg
Click on the images for clearer view!

I have already taken footage of both Bronco and Desert Monkey! I will probably finish up on a video to be up for download tommorow! :D :up:

[DWWilkin]

Good Work KoasterKid!!!

I am now going to work on the 3rd park entries for everyone's judging. Despite repeated attempts (In the forum, and with PM's) since we found out that the Nicksvideo site went down and that was where Maddack uploaded his entry, he has not responded to me with the entry. If I get it, I will add it to our entrants...

With KoasterKid, we have the following so far

MrPK1
Cafinated
DisneyFreak
and
Hardwood Ranch (Who claims ownership???)

[DWWilkin]

3rd Competition Spooky entries needing your judging:

I feel Sick:
http://rapidshare.de/files/2536550/IfeelSickSpooky.dat.html

Vortexian:
http://rapidshare.de/files/2536586/vortexianspooky.dat.html

Bokkie:
http://rapidshare.de/files/2536610/SpookyPark_Bokkie.dat.html

KoasterKid:
http://rapidshare.de/files/2579442/Skull_Park--KoasterKid23.dat.html

Maddack:
http://rapidshare.de/files/2579471/SpookyMaddack.dat.html

[MrPKI]

Those are great pics KoasterKid.:up: I like your Desert Monkey name. That's the spinning mouse right? Did you get to add more than the 12 rides you had before?

[KoasterKid23]

Thanks MrPKI and Dwwilkin! Desert Monkey is the name of the racing coasters and the spinning mouse ride is called Bronco! I did manage to add a couple more rides, so I ended up with 15 if you count the racing coaster as two! :D :up:

I had problems uploading my park though! It kept on saying that I used invalid characters, but I didn't! Should I just upload it to rapidshare real quick for you Dwwilkin? (the uploader I tried was the one posted by Tikitiki) Thanks! :D :up:

[DWWilkin]

Yes, if there are problems with Tiki's loader, upload to Rapidshare and then I will download and keep track of the files until we get that solved...

Thanks

[KoasterKid23]

Ok... I PM'ed you with the download link. :D :up:

[wickedfan07]

I'll be uploading in the morning. Too late to do it now. :)

[KoasterKid23]

My video is done and will be up for download later tommorow! :D :up:

[KoasterKid23]

Here is my video for Longhorn Park! It contains onride footage of Bronco and Desert Monkey! Check it out and tell me what you think!


Longhorn Park Video! (http://rapidshare.de/files/2547361/Longhorn_Park_Final_-_Small.wmv.html)

Hey DWWilkin... I think we should have a separate thread for judging! This thread would get way too cluttered! :D :up:

[tikitiki]

Originally posted by KoasterKid23
Thanks MrPKI and Dwwilkin! Desert Monkey is the name of the racing coasters and the spinning mouse ride is called Bronco! I did manage to add a couple more rides, so I ended up with 15 if you count the racing coaster as two! :D :up:

I had problems uploading my park though! It kept on saying that I used invalid characters, but I didn't! Should I just upload it to rapidshare real quick for you Dwwilkin? (the uploader I tried was the one posted by Tikitiki) Thanks! :D :up:

Yea thats why I told you to read the TOS :mad:

[MrPKI]

Cool video KoasterKid! Bronco made me dizzy.:bulb::up:

I made a video of my large inverted coaster, The Crow. I don't know how well it will work cause it chops up really bad on my PC. Windows Media Player is weird. It might work for other people though. I'll release it if anyone wants to see it.

DWWilkin: I don't think this has been answered yet, but isn't Hardwood Ranch DisneyFreak's park? You said you had KoasterKid's (Longhorn Park), mine (Western Heartland), and DisneyFreak's (Hardwood Ranch?)

[DWWilkin]

I'll check tonight when I get home to see if they are the same park (Sheepish grin, it's possible)

Great work KoasterKid. I want to ride Desert Monkey...

It will be great to see the Crow...

[tikitiki]

yea KoasterKid, great park!

[MrPKI]

What's another good upload site for my Crow movie; Rapidshare doesn't seem to respond. I think my file may be too big even after compressing it.

[tikitiki]

http://rct3.gatesofreach.com/downloads/ :-)

[vortexian]

hardwood ranch=mine

[MrPKI]

Tikitiki, I tried uploading the movie onto that site (I assume that's the original upload site for parks in this comp). It did about the same thing that rapidshare did...meaning it never changed pages and just seemed to try to download forever without responding. Do you think it's the file itself or the websites I am trying?

[KoasterKid23]

Hey DWWilkin... I wasn't really sure if you got my pm, so here is the link to my park just in case!

http://rapidshare.de/files/2538291/Longhorn_Park.dat.html

[DWWilkin]

Thanks KoasterKid,

I did get you PM... Everyone who wants to ride Desert Monkey, here's your chance...

David

[vortexian]

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=5/15015390994.jpg&s=x4
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Ranch
This is my park. How do you think it's named?
HARDWOOD RANCH!:mad:

[tikitiki]

Originally posted by MrPKI
Tikitiki, I tried uploading the movie onto that site (I assume that's the original upload site for parks in this comp). It did about the same thing that rapidshare did...meaning it never changed pages and just seemed to try to download forever without responding. Do you think it's the file itself or the websites I am trying?

You got a firewall?

[MrPKI]

OK I finally got Rapidshare to work:rolleyes:. The problem was patience...I need to learn the difference between 1 MB and 42 MB:haha::haha::haha:. Tell me if it chops up or if it runs fine. I'm hoping it's just this computer. Here's the link Crow Movie (http://rapidshare.de/files/2572997/CrowMovie.wmv.html)
I don't think I have a firewall, tikitiki...then again I'm still learning these computer things so I could be wrong. Thanks for your help anyway.:)

[tikitiki]

Originally posted by MrPKI
OK I finally got Rapidshare to work:rolleyes:. The problem was patience...I need to learn the difference between 1 MB and 42 MB:haha::haha::haha:. Tell me if it chops up or if it runs fine. I'm hoping it's just this computer. Here's the link Crow Movie (http://rapidshare.de/files/2572997/CrowMovie.wmv.html)
I don't think I have a firewall, tikitiki...then again I'm still learning these computer things so I could be wrong. Thanks for your help anyway.:)

LoL

[DisneyFREAK1178]

We need to make a video?!

[tikitiki]

Originally posted by KoasterKid23
Thanks MrPKI and Dwwilkin! Desert Monkey is the name of the racing coasters and the spinning mouse ride is called Bronco! I did manage to add a couple more rides, so I ended up with 15 if you count the racing coaster as two! :D :up:

I had problems uploading my park though! It kept on saying that I used invalid characters, but I didn't! Should I just upload it to rapidshare real quick for you Dwwilkin? (the uploader I tried was the one posted by Tikitiki) Thanks! :D :up:

If you renamed the file in a-z only and NO SPACES, it WOULD have worked...We can't do spaces because there is no way to transform the link to %20 else it will cut off and you will get an invalid link...

[rct3phreak]

Originally posted by DisneyFREAK1178
We need to make a video?!

You don't have to, it is just nice for those of us onlookers to be able to see what a great park you have. It is almost like an advertisement for your park.

[DWWilkin]

I like the Crow!!!

Nice music too... Very Magnificent 7 like...

[rct3phreak]

DWWilkin, check your PM's.

[MrPKI]

Did it chop up at all? Also what do you mean by the music is very magnificent "7" like?

[DWWilkin]

When I was listening to the music I wondered what memories of westerns it invoked. I know there is one that it is based on in the back of my mind, so I was thinking of the Magnificent Seven when I wrote my post. Which tune is it really?

No choppines on my machine btw.

[MrPKI]

Originally posted by DWWilkin
When I was listening to the music I wondered what memories of westerns it invoked. I know there is one that it is based on in the back of my mind, so I was thinking of the Magnificent Seven when I wrote my post. Which tune is it really?

No choppines on my machine btw.

Cool, I guess I can make movies even if they don't work that well on this computer. The music I used was just the Western theme music that's built in to the game. It's called Prarie Rider, I believe.

[tikitiki]

yea I like the vid!

[DWWilkin]

Today is the day. Please either post your park to Tiki's site,

Put it on the web and PM with the link.
Post the link here in the forum.
Or PM and ask for my email so I can give it to you and we can get your park file turned in.

(I'm sure there might be another way to submit your park, but 4 choices should be enough.)

For judges we have myself and RZCT3Phreak for sure, Bokkie, I beleive you said you might be able to judge?

So we will be able to go back to 3 judges...

By the first I shall have competition 5 up and ready...

[MrPKI]

Awesome! Can't wait for you to post the next one.:up::up:. You will allow Soaked right?

[psychoticBunny]

I'm sorry, I'm not going to be able to make it into this competition, I will try for the next one though!

[DWWilkin]

Well just a few more hours... As for the next competition, I am thinking that not everyone will have soaked just yet... (Hey look for me as the Vendor at the Info booth in Scenario #6 ;) ) so I was thinking of just Generic, but my arm could be twisted to allowing the entire kitchen sink (all themes) from RCT3.

To my mind

We still have to do
Generic
Everything
Special's (the things that you can do with Jonwil's 3'd modeling importer...)
Non retro sci-fi... (Modern stuff...)

If July is for the next non-Soaked comp, perhaps August would be good for the first park with a soaked entry. Then we can explore the two soaked themes after that...

David

[psychoticBunny]

If you do that DWwilkin what about all the folks with Soaked? Will we just not be allowed to enter or will it be a mix competition where entries from RCT3 and soaked be allowed?

[vortexian]

I think yhe mixed competition can be quite difficult. Things like peep behaviour are changed. I suggest that you first ask who has got the expansion and who hasn't

[DWWilkin]

If you have soaked you can still do everything you can do in RCT3. If you hold back from adding certain rides, stalls and the pools, it is still an RCT3 themed park.

David

[DWWilkin]

So this contest is closing. We have five parks turned in...

David

[MrPKI]

So we're okay as long as our park doesn't include Soaked rides, pools, paths, buildings, scenery, waterfalls, etc.? Or could we use some of Soaked's generic rides (giant frisbee, chaos, disko, etc.). That will be kinda hard to avoid, but I suppose it's possible.

[psychoticBunny]

Originally posted by MrPKI
So we're okay as long as our park doesn't include Soaked rides, pools, paths, buildings, scenery, waterfalls, etc.? Or could we use some of Soaked's generic rides (giant frisbee, chaos, disko, etc.). That will be kinda hard to avoid, but I suppose it's possible.


It'll probably be like the last one where you are given a scenario with certain things unlocked so it will be the same for both RCT3 an soaked.

[MrPKI]

Oh yeah, I forgot he could do that. Doh! Now everything makes sense, and all we have to avoid is pools and waterfalls. Thanks for pointing that out.

[wickedfan07]

Originally posted by DWWilkin
So this contest is closing. We have five parks turned in...

David

I'm in the middle of packing and I forgot to submit! :cry:

[DWWilkin]

submit...

submit...

submit...


:-)

[vortexian]

David, I just saw the other thread and people without soaked! can't download a soaked park. Isn't that a problem?

[DWWilkin]

I feel Sick's park was down during the beta test. I do not know now if we were to do a scenario if this would be a problem. I expect we shall find out shortly...

If it is, I will uninstall Soaked for the competition, and then reinstall. That should then disperse the scenario file.

If this is a problem, we might eventually have to take a poll and see if everyone does have Soaked at some time.

(If you would be so kind, chime in if you have Soaked...)

Thanks

[vortexian]

I have soaked

[MrPKI]

I have Soaked.

[rct3phreak]

I do too.

[KoasterKid23]

same here! :D :up:

[psychoticBunny]

I have soaked

[Caffinated]

It's been shipped as of today. Next day air, but not sure when the shipping is going through. If it counted as today, then I should have it tomorrow. If it counted as tomorrow...it'll probably be Tuesday thanks to July 4th :( (forgot to check that out before I ordered).

[DisneyFREAK1178]

I don't but I'm getting it TODAY!! RIGHT NOW

[DWWilkin]

Next Competition update...

I'm sorry guys... I had a 13+ hour day at the facotry becuase it was our fiscal year end yesterday and we did inventory. So by the time I got home I was wiped. I was in bed an hour later asleep. Tonight I will post the 5th competition and we'll get started on the judging of the parks I have had submitted for this competition...

David

[Caffinated]

speaking of "Today RIGHT NOW!"

My copy of Soaked was nicely left for me at my mailbox (in an apt building..so not outside :haha: )

It's all installed and now I'm crossing my fingers in hopes that it will run :).

[MrPKI]

Can't wait for it:up:. By the way when do you start judging this one? I put up a bunch of pictures of the park I made on my website if anyone wants to take a look. Link (http://www.geocities.com/mrpki/western_heartland)

[KoasterKid23]

WOW! Great job MrPKI! Those pics are amazing! :D :up:

[rct3phreak]

Yeah, they are.

[DWWilkin]

New competition is up...

[Maddack]

So... if you hurry up and post (or PM me links) the parks I could judge them. But you got to hurry, because I only have sunday to do it.

lol MrPKI nice park map... you even know the manufacturers:up:

[DWWilkin]

Then we need to get a consensus very quick.

Do we want to have the entrants judge (though Maddack I guess you didn't enter this competition)

Or shall the judges be
DWWilkin
Maddack
Bokkie
RCT3Phreak

[MrPKI]

I vote for the four judges mentioned above.

[Maddack]

I said in my first post in this topic I wouldn't enter it...

I can only judge tomorrow (sunday), if I don't get the parks by then, count me out.

[rct3phreak]

I vote for the four judges mentioned above.;)

[Caffinated]

Judges above work for me

[Maddack]

The results are in!

Some personal opinions about the parks (I hope you don't mind me revealing my thoughts before the winner is announced), which (more or less) reflected my points:

Caffinated:
:up: Great money management, nice runaway train and mine.
:down: Not much scenery, loops on a woodie are bad and many rides have no riders.

DisneyFreak:
:up: Two nice coasters and the mountains
:down: This is very bad... 300 people need the toilet! Noone is riding the rides (they are looking for toilets which are full).

KoasterKid:
:up: Fireworks show, many rides packed, impressive park rating.
:down: Many of the rides are empty, one train is in the lead most of the race, limited use of scenery.

MrPKI:
:up: Excellent use of scenery, most rides are pretty full, great roller coasters, cool bank robbery.
:down: The Charcoal express has too many (and long) trains.

Vortexian:
:up: mohican and lumberjack work together (especially at night), a few rides nicely inside buildings.
:down: the buildings are too big (contradiction I know), mediocre coasters, bad placement of stalls.


Remember now, peeps, that the other judges can see upon things differently

[MrPKI]

Thanks for taking the time to judge this Maddack, especially since you have to leave tomorrow. The more judges the more accurate the outcome.:up: I liked how you gave the pros and cons of everyone's park too. It helps us not to make the same mistakes next time.

[wickedfan07]

Originally posted by DWWilkin
submit...

submit...

submit...


:-)

I would have but the computer got packed up. :( Now downloading ad busying myself with the 5th Competition, which I will complete....EVEN if its the lat thing I do!

[DWWilkin]

I was asked to list what and how we are judiging so here is a quick look...

1 Park rating (Higherst 5, Next 4, etc)
2 Peeps in park (Most 5, next 4
3 Highest company value (Highest 5
4 Highest total excitement (Highest 5
5 Highest average excitement(Highest 5
6 Greatest profit (Greatest 5
7 Lowest Cost of a park (Lowest amount spent = 5, next lowest amount 4, etc.
8 Highest Park $$ Value (highest 5

Then your subjective rating times 4 (1 to 10 rating times 4 for 4 to 40 points, so a possible of 4 to 80 points...)

Judges please check your PM box (one of you is very full and I could not send you anything.... :) Thanks all)

[rct3phreak]

It was me. DWWilkin, send it again.

[rct3phreak]

Hey, when is the winner going to be announced?

[rct3phreak]

And the winner is.... DRUMROLL, PLEASE!

1st KoasterKid

2nd MrPk1

3rd Caffinated

4th DisneyFreak

5th Vortexian

FPS winner Vortexian

Thank you to all who participated. You all did a truly incredible job with your parks. I know is that they are better than I could ever do.

[MrPKI]

Congratulations KoasterKid!:up:

[Maddack]

Good job sir!

And to those who did not prevail this time... looooooooosers!

(I'm just kidding ;))

[KoasterKid23]

^lol!

Thanks guys! :D :up:

[DisneyFREAK1178]

Wow I got 4th. Better than I thought.

[KoasterKid23]

Hey DWWilkin.... are you guys still thinking of making a website for these competitions? Cause it would be awesome to have all of our parks up for download! You could release them as packs for each competion! I think that a lot of people in the community would like this, as there are some awesome parks in here that don't really get much attention because there aren't too many people that visit the competition pages! Just my thoughts! :D :up:

[DWWilkin]

Yes I am still thinking and working on that.

In RL I am trying to buy a business. When that I complete that we should be good to go with putting up a web site and helping out with things like RCT Extended...

David