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DWWilkin
06-22-2005, 12:42 PM
Judging

Here is a layout of the what we need to judge for competitions 2 and 3. I think at this point in time the best way to do this will be to open this up to all of the current entrants...

Don't judge your own park

I shall provide in the next few posts links to each competitions parks so you can download them

Then you can fill out the judging sheet and email me your results. You can PM me, or you can post your results in a post and I shall compile it. Perhaps if we want we can start a seperate thread for the judging (chime in please)

Here is the form and a link to the excel form I use:
Park Name
Entrant
Judge

##
# of Peeps in park 10/31
Park Rating 10/31
FPS 10/31 (rename a peep "FPS")

$$
Cost of Park
Remaining $$ (100,000- Cost of Park)

$$
Cash 10/31
Profit 10/31 (This is current cash-Remaining $$ from above)
Park Value 10/31
Company Value 10/31

# Fireworks (3)

# Shops
# Food Stalls
# Drink Stalls
# Other
Total of (18)

# Janitors
# Mechanics
# Security
# Entertainers
Total of (18)

## Excitement
# Coasters (3)
# Junior (6)
# Thrill (12)
# Gentle (6)
# Other Rides (6)

Total Rides/Excitement
Average Excitement

Subjective Rating 1-10



http://rapidshare.de/files/2572839/SmallPark.xls.html

to use the form, or send me feedback, we of course need your name, and the park you are judging. Take the financial readings

Then run the park, you can do this at FF until 10/31. Rename a peep if you want to award the optional FPS award please... Then record the other numbers. Some like # of staff and stalls is to ensure the submitted park is within the guidelines.

In each of the categories of rides add the total of those rides 5 thrill rides of average excitement of 3 each means 15 excitement points on that line. This is a validation to ensure that the numbers I have are correct.

The judging is 5 points for first place, 4 for second, etc in these categories:

Least cost of Park
Most Peeps
Highest Park Rating
Greatest Profit
Highest park Value
Highest Company Value
Highest Total excitement
Highest average excitement

and then the subjective rating which is worth 4 to 40 points. Your score of 1 to 10, times 4 is the value...

Any questions, please ask.

DWWilkin
06-22-2005, 12:43 PM
Competition 2, the Retro Sci-Fi Parks:

Koaster Kid with 23Zooloo
http://rapidshare.de/files/2514992/koasterkid23zooloo.dat.html

I Feel Sick with scifitribute
http://rapidshare.de/files/2515009/scifitribute.dat.html

and Maddack
http://rapidshare.de/files/2515027/maddack.dat.html

rct3phreak
06-23-2005, 02:44 PM
I have a question. Say for coasters, Koasterkid gets an average of 7.2, Maddack gets an average coaster rating of 6.5, and I feelsick gets a coaster average of 6.73, would KoasterKid get 5 points, Ifeelsick gets 4, and Maddack would get 3 points? (BTW these numbers are purely example. They are in no way related to the contest itself.) And how do the points work on like stalls, or staff, or fireworks?

DWWilkin
06-23-2005, 03:04 PM
In essence that is correct.

However we don't average the individual style of rides (Coasters, thrill, etc.) we total them.

So you might have 4 thrill rides 2.75, 2.5, 3.5, 3.25 for a total of 12. That would be an average of 3 of course but where we do average excitement is for the total of all rides. If there are 2 Coasters of 6 and 6.5 and A gentle of 2.5, those 7 rides would produce a total excitement value of 27 and an average excitement for all rides of 3.8+

For Fireworks and stalls, etc. those are things taht add to the Park Rating that the AI monitors, we as judges don't score that, unless there are 20 stalls, over the limit and thus a disqualification. What all this does is add to the subjective rating that you will award to the park for how well you as a judge like it. A park without toilets will be a park that the peeps do not like...

rct3phreak
06-23-2005, 03:20 PM
So the person with the highest average excitement all around gets 5 points, second gets four, and so on?

DWWilkin
06-23-2005, 03:29 PM
Yes that's correct.

If you could put in the most rides into a park, and you had them with the highest exctiements, then you would essentially take 1st place in total excitement, and most likely highest average excitement, though it would be possible to have a sole 3 coaster park with 3 coasters of excitement 10, and their average would probably outshine someone who also had gentle, thrill, and other rides. It would probably also do poorly in subjective ratings...

rct3phreak
06-23-2005, 03:35 PM
What do we do with the Top ten what they are thinking and top ten what they are doing?

DWWilkin
06-23-2005, 03:42 PM
David goes "ARRGHHH" to himself... I thought I cut those out...

Here is a better Excel Spreadsheet... The opt tens was a way to validate the AI. I do it so i can see if some of the things that Madmab pointed out is being fixed by Frontier...

http://rapidshare.de/files/2572839/SmallPark.xls.html

For the contest, I decided that we don't have to do anything with them... It is good feedback to look at as you give a subjective score. A park where the peeps are all hungry and doesn't have a food stalls, or has one in one corner could influence you to lower your subjective vote, but does not need to cause you to lower your vote, that is purely up to you...

rct3phreak
06-23-2005, 03:45 PM
Thanks, I got it. I'm done with the judging on KoasterKid's Sci-Fi park.

rct3phreak
06-24-2005, 08:16 PM
DWWilkin, did you get my PM?

DWWilkin
06-24-2005, 08:52 PM
Rct3Phreak...

Yes I did get your PM. And thank you for judging this. I concur with you on your scoring, but until the final tabulations are in, we can't make an announcement just yet. Who knows the rest of the judges (as we are allow all to judge in Comps 2 and 3) might choose differently.

David

Maddack
06-25-2005, 12:12 PM
Just so you know, I am not judging this since there are only two parks I could compare.

KoasterKid23
07-01-2005, 12:56 AM
OH NOO!!! I totally forgot! Sorry guys! I will try to judge as many as I can tommorow! I have started both of the competition 2 parks so I can do those for sure, but I don't know about competition 3! I am going to the lakes all weekend to light off some fireworks! I am soo sorry I forgot! I will see what I can do! :(

KoasterKid23
07-01-2005, 05:29 PM
wow... that took longer than I thought! Oh well, here is I feel Sick's, Scifitribute stats....

http://rapidshare.de/files/2735579/Sci_Fi_Tribute.xls.html

I am working on the next one... I hope I got everything right! :bulb: :up:

DWWilkin
07-01-2005, 05:32 PM
Run the park at Super Fast ;)

KoasterKid23
07-02-2005, 01:32 AM
I ran into problems with maddack's park! When I load the park his total cash is at $100,000! How will we figure out how much he spent on the park and all of the money stuff! This is not cool cause I have to leave tommorow and won't be back till either Sunday or Monday! :confused:

DWWilkin
07-02-2005, 02:26 AM
Run the park.

Give me back the numbers you have at the end (including your subjective rating, and I will figure if he comes in 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc in the cash part...

Thanks

Maddack
07-02-2005, 10:56 AM
You can put me last in that category, I made a mistake when I made the park (I ran it in the scenario editor I think).

KoasterKid23
07-02-2005, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by DWWilkin
Run the park.

Give me back the numbers you have at the end (including your subjective rating, and I will figure if he comes in 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc in the cash part...

Thanks
OK... I will try to finish up right now! :D :up:

KoasterKid23
07-02-2005, 12:42 PM
This is making me mad! I had Maddack's totally finished and then my dad went on the computer and exited out of all my stuff! I once again have to start all over again! :mad:

DWWilkin
07-02-2005, 03:39 PM
I appreciate your efforts KoasterKid. Thanks for plugging away at this.

KoasterKid23
07-04-2005, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by DWWilkin
I appreciate your efforts KoasterKid. Thanks for plugging away at this.
I just got back into town a minute ago... I should have time to give it another try!

DWWilkin
07-06-2005, 09:01 PM
After compiling the judgings, the winner is in...

3rd place to Maddack
2nd place to I feel Sick
1st place to KoasterKid...

Good jobs by all...

KoasterKid23
07-06-2005, 10:40 PM
http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm3d/3dbiggrin3.gif
yay! (I hate the screenshot tags!)

I feel bad that I didn't get all of my judging done though! Unfortunately my no scool/summer laziness is in full effect. :p :up: Maybe I can accomplish my judging for the 3rd competition...

rct3phreak
07-07-2005, 01:11 AM
Nice going KoasterKid. I will finish judging the Wester Parks tomorrow. I would have had them done sooner but I had an All-Star game yesterday and today. So ya. I should be done tomorrow.