Fat buu>kid buu [Archive]

APurpleCow

07-20-2005, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by sayainpride4.
Yeah i guess, Sup cow havnt seen you in awhile. Ok kid buu is better then fat:p Kid buu is fat buu, just in a different form:haha: also did you know that kid buu is fat buu`s third forum:haha:

Hows life cow? is there a reason you never come here?

Hi SayainPride.

Kid buu=evil buu+essence of mr. buu
Fat buu=evil buu+mr. buu

Kid buu is the first form, actually.

Well there arent a lot of arguements here anymore, and thats why I came here. Plus I havent had the time to play budokai 3 a lot, been playing Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle Earth.

chronicdevil

07-20-2005, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
Hi SayainPride.

Kid buu=evil buu+essence of mr. buu
Fat buu=evil buu+mr. buu

Kid buu is the first form, actually.

Well there arent a lot of arguements here anymore, and thats why I came here. Plus I havent had the time to play budokai 3 a lot, been playing Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle Earth.

the kid buu that goku fights and the ORIGINAL kid buu must be different then, because kid buu is the original, and therefore wouldnt have an essence of mr buu

sayainpride4.

07-20-2005, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by chronicdevil
the kid buu that goku fights and the ORIGINAL kid buu must be different then, because kid buu is the original, and therefore wouldnt have an essence of mr buu

No he loses all the kais which make him KID BUU again. So kid buu with one kai is super then with another it`s fat, no body say it`s buff buu cause i think it`s super buu so:o shhhh

chronicdevil

07-20-2005, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by sayainpride4.
No he loses all the kais which make him KID BUU again. So kid buu with one kai is super then with another it`s fat, no body say it`s buff buu cause i think it`s super buu so:o shhhh
kid buu is the original buu, WITHOUT ANY kais or absorbed people. however, APurplecow stated above that kid buu contains the essence of mr. buu (who has a kai absorbed), therefore theyre not the same

sayainpride4.

07-20-2005, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by chronicdevil
kid buu is the original buu, WITHOUT ANY kais or absorbed people. however, APurplecow stated above that kid buu contains the essence of mr. buu (who has a kai absorbed), therefore theyre not the same

Well cow obviously ment it in a different way:D Ok cow explain too him what you ment i gotta go guys, later COW you should visit more often.

APurpleCow

07-20-2005, 06:58 PM

The original kid buu is the kid buu in the buu saga. The essence of mr. buu is the pink flexible part of him. Then he absrobs the south kai, and becuase buff buu. He aborbs dai kai and becomes fat buu. Mr. buu=the essence of mr. buu+south kai+dai kai. He basically is the absorbtion.

No he loses all the kais which make him KID BUU again. So kid buu with one kai is super then with another it`s fat, no body say it`s buff buu cause i think it`s super buu so shhhh

People call it buff buu, so why not use the name? You will just confuse people.

later COW you should visit more often.

I created this topic so I would visit more often.

chronicdevil

07-20-2005, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
The original kid buu is the kid buu in the buu saga. The essence of mr. buu is the pink flexible part of him. Then he absrobs the south kai, and becuase buff buu. He aborbs dai kai and becomes fat buu. Mr. buu=the essence of mr. buu+south kai+dai kai. He basically is the absorbtion.

No he loses all the kais which make him KID BUU again. So kid buu with one kai is super then with another it`s fat, no body say it`s buff buu cause i think it`s super buu so shhhh

People call it buff buu, so why not use the name? You will just confuse people.

later COW you should visit more often.

I created this topic so I would visit more often.
if u want a good discussion go to the goku vs vegeta thread, that kept me occupied for a while

wolverine9261

07-20-2005, 09:33 PM

Wow, APC. Nice to see you.

wolverine9261

07-20-2005, 09:35 PM

APC, I think you would have a lot of fun arguing with SS4 Fabien. He joined after you left.

lil_marvin2004

07-20-2005, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by wolverine9261
APC, I think you would have a lot of fun arguing with SS4 Fabien. He joined after you left.

I was just going to tell SS4 Fabien that.

wolverine9261

07-20-2005, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by lil_marvin2004
I was just going to tell SS4 Fabien that.

Imagine the showdown between them.

APurpleCow

07-21-2005, 12:03 AM

Hey Wolverine.

ssj4 Fabien? ok, ill try and start an arugement wth him :p

sayainpride4.

07-21-2005, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
Hey Wolverine.

ssj4 Fabien? ok, ill try and start an arugement wth him :p

Fab is a joke, every one thinks he is the "Master Owner" just cause he uses "Grammar" "Spelling" so when he says somthing every one is like oh hail too the goddes:haha: But yeah we were friends but then he got affended.

lil_marvin2004

07-21-2005, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by sayainpride4.
Fab is a joke, every one thinks he is the "Master Owner" just cause he uses "Grammar" "Spelling" so when he says somthing every one is like oh hail too the goddes:haha: But yeah we were friends but then he got affended.

Lets not start this man...

Ekco~Star

07-21-2005, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
Hey Wolverine.

ssj4 Fabien? ok, ill try and start an arugement wth him :p You have no chance in winning lol, Fabien is something else.

sayainpride4.

07-21-2005, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by lil_marvin2004
Lets not start this man...

I wont dont worry.

Posted by echo star. You have no chance in winning lol, Fabien is something else.
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dude cow can be presistante. also fab is somthing else he is a pure grammar freak, and yes if i lasted through fab and last, cow can prolly defeat fab.

No more NO less cow is one of the best.

APurpleCow

07-21-2005, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Ekco~Star
You have no chance in winning lol, Fabien is something else.

You joined after my reign of power! MUAUAUAUAU!

No more NO less cow is one of the best.

4gr33d.

Fabien

07-21-2005, 04:00 PM

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: in this line of "work," grammar and spelling is a necessity. You need to sound intelligent in order for anyone to take you seriously. On web forums, you are limited to text only. When your only tool of communication is text, you need to use correct spelling, grammar, and punctuation in order to even seem intelligent. After you are able to communicate clearly and intelligently, then your actual ideas come into question.

Just for the record, sayainpride4, I was never your friend. It's impossible to realize someone as your friend when you only know them via a web forum. Also, you're a moron.

As for you, APurpleCow, I can almost guarantee you know more about the Dragon Ball series than I do. I watch English dub Dragon Ball Z, and English dub Dragon Ball GT. I've seen very little of Dragon Ball, and what I have seen was English dub on Cartoon Network. On rare occasions, I watch Japanese dub Dragon Ball Z with English subtitles. I've only read select portions of any Dragon Ball-related manga, and it was all in my little brother's copies of Shonen Jump. I'm not going to brag about having a plethora of knowledge on the Dragon Ball series, because I don't. If you want to try to start an argument with me, go ahead; I'm not making any promises though.

DJspin

07-21-2005, 04:05 PM

SS4 Fabien. We can't be web friends?

APurpleCow

07-21-2005, 04:08 PM

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: in this line of "work," grammar and spelling is a necessity. You need to sound intelligent in order for anyone to take you seriously. On web forums, you are limited to text only. When your only tool of communication is text, you need to use correct spelling, grammar, and punctuation in order to even seem intelligent. After you are able to communicate clearly and intelligently, then your actual ideas come into question.

Yea becuase people are not logical creatures. We side with whoever sounds smarter. That was my problem, why nobody beleived me at first. Good grammar, but quick typing.

Just for the record, sayainpride4, I was never your friend. It's impossible to realize someone as your friend when you only know them via a web forum. Also, you're a moron.

Well...sometimes he is a moron, sometimes he's not.

As for you, APurpleCow, I can almost guarantee you know more about the Dragon Ball series than I do. I watch English dub Dragon Ball Z, and English dub Dragon Ball GT. I've seen very little of Dragon Ball, and what I have seen was English dub on Cartoon Network. On rare occasions, I watch Japanese dub Dragon Ball Z with English subtitles. I've only read select portions of any Dragon Ball-related manga, and it was all in my little brother's copies of Shonen Jump. I'm not going to brag about having a plethora of knowledge on the Dragon Ball series, because I don't.

I have never watched dragon ball GT. I have only seen the DBZ english dub series. However, all of my information comes from being on budokai 3 message boards. Go me!

If you want to try to start an argument with me, go ahead; I'm not making any promises though.

Ok. Tell me why kid buu is stronger then fat buu, if that is what you beleive. If not, then good job!

Fabien

07-21-2005, 04:22 PM

TheLastReturns

07-21-2005, 04:29 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by APurpleCow
You joined after my reign of power!

Is that a metephor for "Getting Owned"? Just curious!

No more NO less cow is one of the best.

Key word being "One" of the best! However, you certainly are not the best. Oh and the Kid Buu vs Fat Buu debate is a matter of opinion, not fact.

sayainpride4.

07-21-2005, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by TheLastReturns
[QUOTE]Originally posted by APurpleCow
You joined after my reign of power!

Is that a metephor for "Getting Owned"? Just curious!

No more NO less cow is one of the best.

Key word being "One" of the best! However, you certainly are not the best. Oh and the Kid Buu vs Fat Buu debate is a matter of opinion, not fact.

Fat buu is alittle weaker then kid buu. FACT. Well not fact but any one with a brain would know. Look goku ss3 was beating fat buu he states he could of destroyed him, but then goku was giving it all he had but yet kid buu was keeping up with him. This proves that kid buu is alittle stronger then fat buu. Super buu is just plain weak.

sayainpride4.

07-21-2005, 04:47 PM

ok thats wasnt true super buu is wait super is stronger then fat, look piccolo says yes and he is even stronger then the last one, so yeah the order he transforms is the order of power.

Now excuse me.

APurpleCow

07-21-2005, 05:27 PM

Kid Buu is stronger than Fat Buu because Fat Buu is created by Kid Buu absorbing Dai Kaio, and, I think, a couple of other kais. I believe it is Supreme Kai who states, in the animé, that absorbing the kais makes Buu weaker than when in his original form.

Wrong. Your forgetting South Kai. It was stated that South Kai is the strongest Kai of them all. Kid buu first absorbed South Kai, which made him become buff buu, who is stronger then super buu, stated. Then he absorbed Dai Kai who weakened him. South kai>dai kai, so kid buu+south kai-dai kai>kid buu.

Fat buu is alittle weaker then kid buu. FACT. Well not fact but any one with a brain would know. Look goku ss3 was beating fat buu he states he could of destroyed him, but then goku was giving it all he had but yet kid buu was keeping up with him. This proves that kid buu is alittle stronger then fat buu. Super buu is just plain weak.

Goku was FPssj3 aginst fat buu, ssj3 against kid buu. ANd super buu>>>fat buu.

sayainpride4.

07-21-2005, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
Kid Buu is stronger than Fat Buu because Fat Buu is created by Kid Buu absorbing Dai Kaio, and, I think, a couple of other kais. I believe it is Supreme Kai who states, in the animé, that absorbing the kais makes Buu weaker than when in his original form.

Wrong. Your forgetting South Kai. It was stated that South Kai is the strongest Kai of them all. Kid buu first absorbed South Kai, which made him become buff buu, who is stronger then super buu, stated. Then he absorbed Dai Kai who weakened him. South kai>dai kai, so kid buu+south kai-dai kai>kid buu.

Fat buu is alittle weaker then kid buu. FACT. Well not fact but any one with a brain would know. Look goku ss3 was beating fat buu he states he could of destroyed him, but then goku was giving it all he had but yet kid buu was keeping up with him. This proves that kid buu is alittle stronger then fat buu. Super buu is just plain weak.

Goku was FPssj3 aginst fat buu, ssj3 against kid buu. ANd super buu>>>fat buu.

Dude he was ss3 against fat buu, what is fpss3? Dude super is stronger then FAT and kid is stronger then them both. They say it in the show.

wolverine9261

07-21-2005, 08:54 PM

I just thought of a good argument between APC and Fabien. Dragonball GT. Whether it should be counted as a true Dragonball series, or an unreliable series that should not be counted. I know APC is against you on this one Fabien.

APurpleCow

07-21-2005, 09:56 PM

Dude he was ss3 against fat buu, what is fpss3? Dude super is stronger then FAT and kid is stronger then them both. They say it in the show.

They only say taht kid buu is twice has fast and strong has before in the english dub version, so that is dismissed. He was Fpssj3 agaisnt fat buu, which means that he was dead so there wasn't has much of an energy drain. Vegeta and Goku both stated that if Goku was at FPssj3 agianst kid buu, he would "destroy him in an instant."

sayainpride4.

07-21-2005, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
Dude he was ss3 against fat buu, what is fpss3? Dude super is stronger then FAT and kid is stronger then them both. They say it in the show.

They only say taht kid buu is twice has fast and strong has before in the english dub version, so that is dismissed. He was Fpssj3 agaisnt fat buu, which means that he was dead so there wasn't has much of an energy drain. Vegeta and Goku both stated that if Goku was at FPssj3 agianst kid buu, he would "destroy him in an instant."

He could of destroyed him in a instant, spirit bomb. if he used that right away he would of died but ofcourse lets give vegeta a shot at it.

Fabien

07-21-2005, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
Wrong. Your forgetting South Kai. It was stated that South Kai is the strongest Kai of them all. Kid buu first absorbed South Kai, which made him become buff buu, who is stronger then super buu, stated. Then he absorbed Dai Kai who weakened him. South kai>dai kai, so kid buu+south kai-dai kai>kid buu...
Mathematically, that makes perfect sense. Then again, the Dragon Ball series isn't exactly known for it's consistency and logic. No one is wrong here. As TheLastReturns said, it's all opinion.
Originally posted by APurpleCow
...Goku was FPssj3 aginst fat buu, ssj3 against kid buu. ANd super buu>>>fat buu.
Putting more than one greater-than symbol does not increase potency of the statement; all it does is make you look foolish.

Cell Jr. 3

07-21-2005, 11:57 PM

This is where I stand and where I will always stand

Kid Buu???Fat Buu

Super Buu > Fat Buu

Super Buu > Kid Buu

Buff Buu > Super Buu

Gohan Buu > Buff Buu

APurpleCow

07-22-2005, 12:26 AM

He could of destroyed him in a instant, spirit bomb. if he used that right away he would of died but ofcourse lets give vegeta a shot at it.

ssj goku>frieza>spirit bomb. Please don't overrate the spirit bomb.

Mathematically, that makes perfect sense. Then again, the Dragon Ball series isn't exactly known for it's consistency and logic. No one is wrong here. As TheLastReturns said, it's all opinion.

kk, your right, turtle>buu.

Putting more than one greater-than symbol does not increase potency of the statement; all it does is make you look foolish.

Yes it does. It totally does.

Fabien

07-22-2005, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
...kk, your right, turtle>buu...
I never said that. I'm just saying that the Dragon Ball series isn't always consistent and logical.
Originally posted by APurpleCow
...Yes it does. It totally does.
Yes, it does make you look foolish. I'm glad you agree.

APurpleCow

07-22-2005, 02:09 AM

Wow, ssj4 Fabien, your good at arguing.

I'm just saying that the Dragon Ball series isn't always consistent and logical.

In the canon version, there are very few plotholes. Look at this though:
Fat buu=evil buu+mr.buu
kid buu=evil buu+the essence of mr. buu.

The only way kid buu could be stronger then fat buu was if Mr. buu had a negative power level. This would be fine, if Mr. Buu hadnt seperated and became his own character, proving that he had a positive power level.

Giji_Goku

07-22-2005, 03:29 AM

Well I on the otherhand have watched and read the Japanese version to the dragonball trilogy.

And here is how it goes:

Exactly like A Purple Cow said, Kid Buu was the original. Then he devoured South Kaioshin, whom I might add is stronger than Kid Buu. Which created Buff Buu. Buff Buu was about to kill East Kaioshin, until Dai Kaioshin came along and was absorbed, creating Fat Buu.

Is it me or has anyone else catch the part of where Mr. Buu portrays the Japanese Buddhist version of Buddha with having the same Buu-ish like appearance?

Anyways, Fat Buu is incorporated out of Dai Kaioshin, South Kaioshin and Kid Buu.

Dai Kaioshin makes Fat Buu weaker, while South Kaioshin makes Fat Buu stronger.

I have no idea as to what had happened to South Kaioshin, except for the fact that in the original Japanese Manga that South Kaioshin was planly just killed by Kid Buu, instead of being absorbed.

So therefore in the manga, fat buu is weaker than kid buu, since South Kaioshin is not a part of Fat Buu and Dai Kaioshin weakens Fat Buu.

I guess the absorbtion of South Kaioshin was to correct an error that Toriyama had made and didn't realize. The part of which SSJ3 Goku is stronger enough to defeat Kid Buu, yet Goku admitted he couldn't ever defeat Fat Buu.

So yes in the anime, base off of what Goku had said, Fat Buu is stronger then Kid Buu.

And South Kaioshin, since he had a much easier time beating Kid Buu then SSJ3 Goku is stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

Mr Buu is Dai Kaioshin, the good essence that was absorbed in creating Fat Buu. So him being weaker than Evil Buu, whom is less likely to be stronger than Kid Buu, suggests that South Kaioshin is in fact stronger than Dai Kaioshin and perhaps as strong as base Vegetto (anime).

APurpleCow

07-22-2005, 12:25 PM

He was absorbed in the manga.

Fabien

07-22-2005, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
Wow, ssj4 Fabien, your good at arguing...
It's SS4 Fabien, not SSJ4 Fabien. Please, get it right.

APurpleCow

07-22-2005, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by SS4 Fabien
It's SS4 Fabien, not SSJ4 Fabien. Please, get it right.

Yes ok. So can you counter any of my other arguements?

Giji_Goku

07-22-2005, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
He was absorbed in the manga.

No the Kaioshins, except for East Kaioshin aren't in the Manga, infact in the Manga, Kaioshin is just plainly supreme Kaio and there isn't anyone greater than him except for Elder kaio.

I know this, because I have the manga. You probably have phooney or just plain lying about saying you got the manga, just so you can look cool and say, "Hey I got the manga too, see guys, me cool, me cool!!!"

DJspin

07-23-2005, 12:50 AM

SS4 Fabien. I haven't been seeing you post in a while.

Fabien

07-23-2005, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
...can you counter any of my other arguements?
No, I can't, hence why I didn't. To be completely honest with you, I never actually saw the episode(s) where it was explained how Buu was created. So, I can't come out with any very strong points in this argument.
Originally posted by DJspin
SS4 Fabien. I haven't been seeing you post in a while.
I don't think I posted much yesterday. I'm gone for one day, and you say that?

It's good to be wanted.

TheLastReturns

07-23-2005, 04:37 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by APurpleCow
The only way kid buu could be stronger then fat buu was if Mr. buu had a negative power level. This would be fine, if Mr. Buu hadnt seperated and became his own character, proving that he had a positive power level.

Mr. Buu does in fact have a negetive power level still present within himself. In fact, even Vegeta expressed concerns about Mr. Buu's ability to release said evil. It also should be noted that prior to Goku restoring Mr.Buu health via sensu bean. Vegeta reminded him of the possible risk that if angered, Mr. Buu could blow his stack again. His exact words were: "He could release another killing machine". A quote found in both translations of the Manga and also within both translations of the Anime. Please explain!

Oh and Giji Goku....please see Signature!

APurpleCow

07-23-2005, 07:08 PM

Well Giji Goku, its hard to counter your arguement without a manga scan. I will try to get one. Also, how exactly does super buu transform into kid buu in the manga? Can you tell me how the first fight between goku and fat buu went in the manga?

Mr. Buu does in fact have a negetive power level still present within himself.

It is impossible to have a negative power level. Even the turtle has a power level!

In fact, even Vegeta expressed concerns about Mr. Buu's ability to release said evil

Oh you mean negative has in evil? Well anyway, Vegeta knew nothing about Buu.

TheLastReturns

07-23-2005, 07:27 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by APurpleCow
It is impossible to have a negative power level. Even the turtle has a power level!

When I said "level" obviously I was referring to a negative presence. I assumed someone who proclaims to be as knowlegdeable as yourself, would of been able to tell the difference. Apparently I was wrong.

The evil presence I spoke of is the same evil (IE negative) presence that spawed Evil Buu. The same presence that still remain within him even after becoming Mr. Buu.
Oh you mean negative has in evil? Well anyway, Vegeta knew nothing about Buu.

So basically Vegeta's comments were yet another plothole, huh?

Thanks for that very informative and insightful explanation. I found it to be very helpful and useful. In fact, about as useful as a hole in the head.

EDIT: What about Mr. Satan's making Mr. Buu Promise never to get mad for fear of blowing his stack? A promise Mr. Buu remembered when the Ice Cream clerk refused to give him the ice cream without paying for it first! Explain?

APurpleCow

07-23-2005, 08:26 PM

When I said "level" obviously I was referring to a negative presence. I assumed someone who proclaims to be as knowlegdeable as yourself, would of been able to tell the difference. Apparently I was wrong.

And you thought negative meant evil.

So basically Vegeta's comments were yet another plothole, huh?

They dont know anything about Buu!

TheLastReturns

07-23-2005, 08:36 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by APurpleCow
They dont know anything about Buu!

If they don't then who does?

APurpleCow

07-23-2005, 09:10 PM

If they don't then who does?

Bibidi, Babidi, and the Kai's of old.

sayainpride4.

07-23-2005, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
If they don't then who does?

Bibidi, Babidi, and the Kai's of old.

Negative... Babidi didnt know anything about buu, except he was damn strong. So your wrong there. Also the older kais didnt know anything either except he was really strong. Only one who could explain Majin buu was bibidi. So your all wrong. Seriously did akira ever write a part were bibidi explains majin buu? no he didnt so all of your posts are based on the opinions of the mind, which are all wrong. Get over it Buu is a mystery.

The end:D Theres the new dbz manga. written by Jonny G. Directed By his hand.

APurpleCow

07-23-2005, 11:07 PM

Babidi knew his history. Bibidi created him and knew everything he did. The old kais fought against him.

sayainpride4.

07-24-2005, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
Babidi knew his history. Bibidi created him and knew everything he did. The old kais fought against him.

First off babidi didnt even know what he looked like until he was born, babidi didnt know that he can turn on you. so babidi is out of the picture:downcast: Old Kais well shin was there he wasnt old. so not old but KAIS fought, meaning they knew he was strong didnt know about his physicle streghnth like yeah and when he absorbes this kai he gets stronger then kid buu, no so the kais are out. Thats leaves us with the creator bibidi. You are good with buu but this time your wrong man.

APurpleCow

07-24-2005, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by sayainpride4.
First off babidi didnt even know what he looked like until he was born, babidi didnt know that he can turn on you. so babidi is out of the picture:downcast: Old Kais well shin was there he wasnt old. so not old but KAIS fought, meaning they knew he was strong didnt know about his physicle streghnth like yeah and when he absorbes this kai he gets stronger then kid buu, no so the kais are out. Thats leaves us with the creator bibidi. You are good with buu but this time your wrong man.

You dont need to know what somebody looks like to know what they have done. Babidi wouldnt know he can turn on you, buu didnt trun on bibidi did he? Kais of old means the kais taht were there back when buu was made. So yes, the Kais of old did know about buu. They saw him kill the kais and absrob the kais.

sayainpride4.

07-24-2005, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
You dont need to know what somebody looks like to know what they have done. Babidi wouldnt know he can turn on you, buu didnt trun on bibidi did he? Kais of old means the kais taht were there back when buu was made. So yes, the Kais of old did know about buu. They saw him kill the kais and absrob the kais.

Kid buu almost killed bibidi with his ki blast but bibidi teleported. Ok when you see some random guy on the street he is evil and kills every one, that means you know every thing about him? no this is what your saying man. So basicly i`m rite. YAY.

Giji_Goku

07-24-2005, 04:31 AM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
Well Giji Goku, its hard to counter your arguement without a manga scan. I will try to get one. Also, how exactly does super buu transform into kid buu in the manga? Can you tell me how the first fight between goku and fat buu went in the manga?

Mr. Buu does in fact have a negetive power level still present within himself.

It is impossible to have a negative power level. Even the turtle has a power level!

In fact, even Vegeta expressed concerns about Mr. Buu's ability to release said evil

Oh you mean negative has in evil? Well anyway, Vegeta knew nothing about Buu.

Yes Goku was like toasting all over Majin Buu. Majin did manage to do a few attacks, but he was just so slow in comparison to SSJ3 Goku.

But even though everyone thought SSJ3 Goku would win, Goku declined because he knew he would still not have been any challenge for Majin Buu.

Super Buu doesn't transform into Kid Buu, Super Buu turns into Buff Buu, by swelling up and his power level soars to unbelievably high levels. Then Buff Buu just suddenly collapses in on himself and becomes Kid Buu and Goku and Vegeta are just laughing at how weak Buu has become.

sayainpride4.

07-24-2005, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by Giji_Goku
Super Buu doesn't transform into Kid Buu, Super Buu turns into Buff Buu, by swelling up and his power level soars to unbelievably high levels. Then Buff Buu just suddenly collapses in on himself and becomes Kid Buu and Goku and Vegeta are just laughing at how weak Buu has become.

Talk about idiot. Dude were did you get this idea? when he tranforms he buffs up, damn your retarded. Get off the dbz thing cause you need too learn alot more about it, all you do is get in our way.

Incredibly high power level and then i`m retarded. says giji idiot.

Who ever beleives this is the biggest moron out there. Dont you think if buff buu was real Akira would of wrote it in the manga? no he didnt there is no buff buu it is super buu puffed up. End of discussion. tsss damn man.

SS2 Rozenku

07-24-2005, 09:02 PM

I would like to know where Dai Kaio and that other Supreme Kai were when Goku and Vegeta were inside Super Buu's head, they should have been there with Gohan, Piccolo, etc. unless, for some reason, they were still fused with Fat Buu.

Fabien

07-24-2005, 09:57 PM

That's a very good point, SS2 Rozenku.

Academic Mania

07-25-2005, 07:17 AM

fat buu is stronger yes, doesnt mean he is better, kid buu puts more of a fight up and lets out more energy. fat buu would be a good fight, its a hard one:confused:

APurpleCow

07-25-2005, 01:47 PM

Kid buu almost killed bibidi with his ki blast but bibidi teleported. Ok when you see some random guy on the street he is evil and kills every one, that means you know every thing about him? no this is what your saying man. So basicly i`m rite. YAY.

Kid buu didnt mean to send taht ki blast at bibidi.

Yes Goku was like toasting all over Majin Buu. Majin did manage to do a few attacks, but he was just so slow in comparison to SSJ3 Goku.

It is actually pretty even.

Super Buu doesn't transform into Kid Buu, Super Buu turns into Buff Buu, by swelling up and his power level soars to unbelievably high levels. Then Buff Buu just suddenly collapses in on himself and becomes Kid Buu and Goku and Vegeta are just laughing at how weak Buu has become.

Yes can you explain who buff buu is? buff buu=south kai9+kid buu, if i am not mistaken.

I would like to know where Dai Kaio and that other Supreme Kai were when Goku and Vegeta were inside Super Buu's head, they should have been there with Gohan, Piccolo, etc. unless, for some reason, they were still fused with Fat Buu.

There are 2 ways to explain this. One is that buu used the candy beam and so they didnt show up, another is that since they were in buu's body for so long they became a part of him.

fat buu is stronger yes, doesnt mean he is better, kid buu puts more of a fight up and lets out more energy. fat buu would be a good fight, its a hard one

Goku stated that while at FPssj3, he might notve been able to beat fat buu> He also stated that at FPssj3, he cud kill kid buu in an instant.

Academic Mania

07-25-2005, 02:23 PM

:o i hate this topic, i already argued about it a long time ago for like a week...

fat buu isnt that strong cuz he absorbed that fat leader kai guy..... and kid buu didnt have him...

Academic Mania

07-25-2005, 02:27 PM

FPssj3 goku is better than fat buu, well, he cant get hit and fat buu didnt really take damage from goku either...

and ssj3 goku was getting owned by kid buu, but at FP it would be equal unless u got a fvidoe of that ep to show goku saying he was stronger than kid buu in FPssj3 goku

TheLastReturns

07-25-2005, 02:32 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by APurpleCow
Kid buu didnt mean to send taht ki blast at bibidi.

No. Just No.

There are 2 ways to explain this. One is that buu used the candy beam and so they didnt show up

Oh, you mean the same candy beam Evil Buu reversed on Mr. Buu? But wait, Mr. Buu was absorbed and subsequently Evil Buu transformed into SuperBuu. Hmm...interesting.

another is that since they were in buu's body for so long they became a part of him.

No. The other kai's were trapped within Buu for the same amount of time as South Kai. So both your theroies are inconclusive. Try again!
Goku stated that while at FPssj3, he might notve been able to beat fat buu> He also stated that at FPssj3, he cud kill kid buu in an instant.

Goku never reached full powered Ss3. Again, inconclusive.

Academic Mania

07-25-2005, 02:42 PM

and he didnt state that he could beat him even if he reached FPssj3

TheLastReturns

07-25-2005, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Acidfire Frieza
and he didnt state that he could beat him even if he reached FPssj3

Actually he did.

Academic Mania

07-25-2005, 03:48 PM

but not in those words, i remember him saying something else..... ill just wait for another re run, if there is....:o

Dark saiyan

07-25-2005, 03:58 PM

Kid buu chains better than fat buu

Academic Mania

07-25-2005, 04:17 PM

kid buu has a better chance at winning, he is not fat :rolleyes:

TheLastReturns

07-25-2005, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by Acidfire Frieza
but not in those words, i remember him saying something else..... ill just wait for another re run, if there is....:o

Actually that's pretty much the exact Quote.

sayainpride4.

07-25-2005, 07:10 PM

I remember Goku saying "Ah i`m such a idiot, why didnt i kill buu when i had the chance, but i wanted trunks and goten to feel there part of saving the world." so he could of killed fat buu, also he was keeping up with kid buu so who ever said he was getting owned by kid buu, there wrong. I cant beleive Hercule took 2 punches from kid buu and still got up:eek: I guess he is pretty strong after all:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: Ok kid buu would own fat buu, because of his non stop i want you dead thinking. Fat buu may be stronger but he wouldnt win. End for me, if i`m wrong so what.

SS2 Rozenku

07-25-2005, 08:27 PM

Also, how can Fat Buu be stronger than Kid Buu? Fat Buu got beaten by Kid Buu in the show! I don't think Fat Buu is any stronger, or weaker, when he fights Kid Buu as when he fights Majin Vegeta.

Fabien

07-25-2005, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by SS2 Rozenku
Also, how can Fat Buu be stronger than Kid Buu? Fat Buu got beaten by Kid Buu in the show! I don't think Fat Buu is any stronger, or weaker, when he fights Kid Buu as when he fights Majin Vegeta.
No, Kid Buu beats the **** out of the good Fat Buu, also known as "Mr. Buu." Mr. Buu doesn't have the power of Evil Buu, where as the Fat Buu that Majin Vegeta fights does. So, actually, Fat Buu does get weaker between fighting Majin Vegeta and fighting Kid Buu.

SS2 Rozenku

07-25-2005, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by SS4 Fabien
No, Kid Buu beats the **** out of the good Fat Buu, also known as "Mr. Buu." Mr. Buu doesn't have the power of Evil Buu, where as the Fat Buu that Majin Vegeta fights does. So, actually, Fat Buu does get weaker between fighting Majin Vegeta and fighting Kid Buu.
I guess that makes sense.

Fabien

07-25-2005, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by SS2 Rozenku
I guess that makes sense.
It makes sense, but it doesn't necessarily prove that Fat Buu is stronger than Kid Buu.

For the record, I believe that Kid Buu is stronger.

APurpleCow

07-25-2005, 11:32 PM

fat buu isnt that strong cuz he absorbed that fat leader kai guy..... and kid buu didnt have him...

But fat buu also has the south kai, who makes fat buu stronger then kid buu.
http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fatbuuisbetterthenkidbuu5th.gif

No. Just No.

That scene is filler.

FPssj3 goku is better than fat buu, well, he cant get hit and fat buu didnt really take damage from goku either...

FPssj3 goku stated that he cudnt ebat him. It is very close tho.

and ssj3 goku was getting owned by kid buu, but at FP it would be equal unless u got a fvidoe of that ep to show goku saying he was stronger than kid buu in FPssj3 goku

http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ssj3killedinaninstant8nl.gif

remember Goku saying "Ah i`m such a idiot, why didnt i kill buu when i had the chance, but i wanted trunks and goten to feel there part of saving the world." so he could of killed fat buu

Yea i remember this part:
http://img282.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fatbuuisbetterthenfpssj3goku8x.gif

Oh adn GijiGoku,
http://img282.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fatbuuisbetterthenkidbuu6fd.gif

sayainpride4.

07-26-2005, 12:07 AM

COW get over those stupid comics they prove nothing. Besides there stupid drawing, who ever made them should go through drawing school. Ok we are kool i`ll just chill and leave the convo, i hope we are still friends, mybe you should post in the B3 part so i dont have too come here too talk too you. Ok bye Guys prolly be back in 30 minutes:haha:

APurpleCow

07-26-2005, 12:21 AM

COW get over those stupid comics they prove nothing. Besides there stupid drawing, who ever made them should go through drawing school.

Oh...lord...you are stupid...

Ok we are kool i`ll just chill and leave the convo, i hope we are still friends, mybe you should post in the B3 part so i dont have too come here too talk too you. Ok bye Guys prolly be back in 30 minutes

yea cya later.

TheLastReturns

07-26-2005, 12:34 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by APurpleCow
Yea i remember this part:
http://img282.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fatbuuisbetterthenfpssj3goku8x.gif

Couldn't doesn't mean "can't". In Goku's case his comments were simply an admittance of doudt, not fact.

APurpleCow

07-26-2005, 12:43 AM

Couldn't doesn't mean "can't". In Goku's case his comments were simply an admittance of doudt, not fact.

Yes I know.

Giji_Goku

07-26-2005, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by sayainpride4.
Talk about idiot. Dude were did you get this idea? when he tranforms he buffs up, damn your retarded. Get off the dbz thing cause you need too learn alot more about it, all you do is get in our way.

Incredibly high power level and then i`m retarded. says giji idiot.

Who ever beleives this is the biggest moron out there. Dont you think if buff buu was real Akira would of wrote it in the manga? no he didnt there is no buff buu it is super buu puffed up. End of discussion. tsss damn man.

And you like to argue pointlessly like a headless chicken when your ego is damaged.

Look buddy, there is absolutely no point is saying the **** that you just did, especially when it is all going to be taken down by Pyros or Tonkatsu.

A transformation is any natural or super natural physical modification.

Super Buu becoming super buff, turns him into super buff buu. Or popularly known as just Buff Buu.

I guess you weren't paying attention, because Vegeta and Goku were amazed and almost literally speechless as Buu became so powerful.

Then as Buff Buu started to shrink and became Kid Buu, Goku and Vegeta simply just laugh at how weak Kid Buu was. It's in the manga, you loud mouth n00b.

Anyways,

Dont you think if buff buu was real Akira would of wrote it in the manga? no he didnt there is no buff buu it is super buu puffed up. End of discussion. tsss damn man.

WRONG!!!!

Um dude the only form that calls himself Super Buu is Buuhan, the absorbtion of Gohan into Buu.

So your intelligence on this little tibit of useless information is rather is obselete and futile.

Akira Toriyama didn't wrote any English words in the original manga, he's freaking Japanese for crying out loud.

Super Buu buffed up does not exist.

Super Buu in fact is just Buu absorbed with Gohan, or you could consider the same with when Buu had absorbed Gotenks. But otherwise, the muscular form of Buu after Evil Buu devours Fat Buu is not Super Buu base on the official information in the Manga.

But I guess the reason why you don't know this, is because you don't even own any edition of Toriyama's work.

So to be correct it is really the buffed up form of the muscular form of Buu after Evil Buu had adsorbed Fat Buu.

And it is simply just common knowledge to call this form, Buff Buu.

Just like we called that super saiyan form Goku had used in Movie 4, Giji Super Saiyan.

And Trunks and Vegeta's buffed up super saiyan forms, Ultra Super Saiyan or Second Grade Super Saiyan.

Giji_Goku

07-26-2005, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by TheLastReturns
[QUOTE]Originally posted by APurpleCow
Yea i remember this part:
http://img282.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fatbuuisbetterthenfpssj3goku8x.gif

Couldn't doesn't mean "can't". In Goku's case his comments were simply an admittance of doudt, not fact.

To be correct Goku says "I don't think I could've won", not that "I think I couldn't won".

And are you even sure that manga, is actually correctly translated from the Japanese.

Because the one used by Shonen Jump uses an awkward translation for Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon, as Light of Death, when the correct translation is Demonic Spiral Death-Ray.

Giji_Goku

07-26-2005, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by sayainpride4.
COW get over those stupid comics they prove nothing. Besides there stupid drawing, who ever made them should go through drawing school. Ok we are kool i`ll just chill and leave the convo, i hope we are still friends, mybe you should post in the B3 part so i dont have too come here too talk too you. Ok bye Guys prolly be back in 30 minutes:haha:

That's Akira Toriyama's own hand drawwing which is copied over and over again in each Edition.

This just proves you have never ever read one of Akira Toriyama's work prior to when Cow posted those images.

Giji_Goku

07-26-2005, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
fat buu isnt that strong cuz he absorbed that fat leader kai guy..... and kid buu didnt have him...

But fat buu also has the south kai, who makes fat buu stronger then kid buu.
http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fatbuuisbetterthenkidbuu5th.gif

No. Just No.

That scene is filler.

FPssj3 goku is better than fat buu, well, he cant get hit and fat buu didnt really take damage from goku either...

FPssj3 goku stated that he cudnt ebat him. It is very close tho.

and ssj3 goku was getting owned by kid buu, but at FP it would be equal unless u got a fvidoe of that ep to show goku saying he was stronger than kid buu in FPssj3 goku

http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ssj3killedinaninstant8nl.gif

remember Goku saying "Ah i`m such a idiot, why didnt i kill buu when i had the chance, but i wanted trunks and goten to feel there part of saving the world." so he could of killed fat buu

Yea i remember this part:
http://img282.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fatbuuisbetterthenfpssj3goku8x.gif

Oh adn GijiGoku,
http://img282.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fatbuuisbetterthenkidbuu6fd.gif

Hey you should show this to www.myfavoritegames.com/forum, sorry for acting like a total douchebag, I just needed some link proof of that for when I had said all the Kaioshins were in the Manga.

Giji_Goku

07-26-2005, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by sayainpride4.
I remember Goku saying "Ah i`m such a idiot, why didnt i kill buu when i had the chance, but i wanted trunks and goten to feel there part of saving the world." so he could of killed fat buu, also he was keeping up with kid buu so who ever said he was getting owned by kid buu, there wrong. I cant beleive Hercule took 2 punches from kid buu and still got up:eek: I guess he is pretty strong after all:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: Ok kid buu would own fat buu, because of his non stop i want you dead thinking. Fat buu may be stronger but he wouldnt win. End for me, if i`m wrong so what.

That's just a dubbed line. It's not part of the manga. The original source of all of Akira Toriyama's work.

Giji_Goku

07-26-2005, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
Kid buu almost killed bibidi with his ki blast but bibidi teleported. Ok when you see some random guy on the street he is evil and kills every one, that means you know every thing about him? no this is what your saying man. So basicly i`m rite. YAY.

Kid buu didnt mean to send taht ki blast at bibidi.

Yes Goku was like toasting all over Majin Buu. Majin did manage to do a few attacks, but he was just so slow in comparison to SSJ3 Goku.

It is actually pretty even.

Super Buu doesn't transform into Kid Buu, Super Buu turns into Buff Buu, by swelling up and his power level soars to unbelievably high levels. Then Buff Buu just suddenly collapses in on himself and becomes Kid Buu and Goku and Vegeta are just laughing at how weak Buu has become.

Yes can you explain who buff buu is? buff buu=south kai9+kid buu, if i am not mistaken.

I would like to know where Dai Kaio and that other Supreme Kai were when Goku and Vegeta were inside Super Buu's head, they should have been there with Gohan, Piccolo, etc. unless, for some reason, they were still fused with Fat Buu.

There are 2 ways to explain this. One is that buu used the candy beam and so they didnt show up, another is that since they were in buu's body for so long they became a part of him.

fat buu is stronger yes, doesnt mean he is better, kid buu puts more of a fight up and lets out more energy. fat buu would be a good fight, its a hard one

Goku stated that while at FPssj3, he might notve been able to beat fat buu> He also stated that at FPssj3, he cud kill kid buu in an instant.

It is hard to say to be honest, most of the time the two of them both are associated as Buff Buu. And since they are probably at the same power level, they might actually be the same person.

Godku

07-26-2005, 01:57 AM

I heard from a friend that there is talk of making a DBZ live action movie. Can anyone confirm this?:confused: :)

Giji_Goku

07-26-2005, 02:01 AM

This is the wrong thread to be talking about that, try doing it in the general discussion forum just outside of the Budokai 3 forum.

Godku

07-26-2005, 02:06 AM

Originally posted by Giji_Goku
This is the wrong thread to be talking about that, try doing it in the general discussion forum just outside of the Budokai 3 forum.
OK, thanks.:up:

APurpleCow

07-26-2005, 02:58 AM

And are you even sure that manga, is actually correctly translated from the Japanese.

Yes it is.

Hey you should show this to www.myfavoritegames.com/forum, sorry for acting like a total douchebag, I just needed some link proof of that for when I had said all the Kaioshins were in the Manga.

Why should I post it over there...?

sayainpride4.

07-26-2005, 08:46 PM

Ok mr manga bitcches if this buff buu is real, dont you think mr toriyama would of wrote. "Then he turns into buff buu" no he said nothing because any one with ahlf a brain knows that, that is super buu.

Now get over BUFF BUU he isnt reall:sour:

APurpleCow

07-26-2005, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by sayainpride4.
Ok mr manga bitcches if this buff buu is real, dont you think mr toriyama would of wrote. "Then he turns into buff buu" no he said nothing because any one with ahlf a brain knows that, that is super buu.

Now get over BUFF BUU he isnt reall:sour:

If buff buu isnt real then whats the huge buff thing that looks liek buu that Akira drew?

sayainpride4.

07-27-2005, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by APurpleCow
If buff buu isnt real then whats the huge buff thing that looks liek buu that Akira drew?

Thats Super buu moron, akira made dbz for the ones who have brains too figure out that this character isnt real. Ok bro you just hit a plothole in your words. Look you said that buff buu had a huge massive power level, then he absorbed dai kai, which made him weaker.

They said the first kai made hm weaker, and the second made him stronger. I got you there wise azzzzzz. Also if this buff buu is so strong why isnt he a character in any one the games? or say anything about him in actaul dbz document, all you see about this stupid made up fake buff buu is the retarded fans saying thats BUFF BUU:sour: There is nooooooo buff buu, damn. Ok i suggest the ones with brains should be the only ones too watch dbz.

chronicdevil

07-27-2005, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by sayainpride4.
Thats Super buu moron, akira made dbz for the ones who have brains too figure out that this character isnt real. Ok bro you just hit a plothole in your words. Look you said that buff buu had a huge massive power level, then he absorbed dai kai, which made him weaker.

They said the first kai made hm weaker, and the second made him stronger. I got you there wise azzzzzz. Also if this buff buu is so strong why isnt he a character in any one the games? or say anything about him in actaul dbz document, all you see about this stupid made up fake buff buu is the retarded fans saying thats BUFF BUU:sour: There is nooooooo buff buu, damn. Ok i suggest the ones with brains should be the only ones too watch dbz.
'Buff' buu was made when kid buu absorbed south supreme kai. while super buu was made when the buu made up of south supreme kai AND DAI KAIO split in 2 and absorbed one another. dai kaio cant just disappear can he? therefore it MUST be something different:weird: . 'buff' buu doesnt appear in any games or documents probably because he only appears for a short period of time. but any moron knows that kid buu with just south supreme kai absorbed has to be different from the other buu's

Broly X

07-27-2005, 12:59 PM

Kid Buu= Orginal

Super Duper Buu/Buff Buu= Kid Buu + South Kaioshin(South Supreme Kai)(this is the strongest Form)

Majin Buu/Fat Buu= Buff Buu + Dai Kaioshin(God)(Made Buu Weaker)

Evil Buu= Majin Buu - Majin Buu(Good Side)

Super Buu= Evil Buu + Cookie Of Majin Buu(good side)

"New" kid buu(one you see on TV)= Super Buu - Everyone (keeps attacks and abbilties, strength and become stronger because Dai Kaioshin is no longer part)

"New" Majin Buu(good)= Super Buu - Kid Buu(Keeps Dai Kaoshin, and South Kaioshin)

Uub= Good Reincarnation Of Kid Buu

Majuub= when Majin Buu Sarifaces himself to Uub(they do a Sacriface Fusion)

:)

APurpleCow

07-27-2005, 01:29 PM

Sayajin Pride 4, you are an idiot.

Thats Super buu moron, akira made dbz for the ones who have brains too figure out that this character isnt real. Ok bro you just hit a plothole in your words. Look you said that buff buu had a huge massive power level, then he absorbed dai kai, which made him weaker.

So super buu=evil buu(controll)+mr. buu and he equals evil buu+essence of Mr.buu+south kai? Doesnt make much sense.

They said the first kai made hm weaker, and the second made him stronger.

No, it siad the first made him stronger and teh 2nd made him weaker. Go learn how to read.

Also if this buff buu is so strong why isnt he a character in any one the games?

Becuase Akira doesnt make the games? Becuase the games have other characters to put in?

stupid made up fake buff buu is the retarded fans saying thats BUFF BUU

We have to make fan names for things that dont have names. Or else every time we refered to buff buu, we wud have to say 'that huge thingy that looks like buu but is super buff'.

Ok i suggest the ones with brains should be the only ones too watch dbz.

Then you shudnt be watching it you idiot.

Majuub= when Majin Buu Sarifaces himself to Uub(they do a Sacriface Fusion)

Nope.

Super Duper Buu/Buff Buu= Kid Buu + South Kaioshin(South Supreme Kai)(this is the strongest Form)

super buu 2 and super buu 3 are stronger tho.

"New" kid buu(one you see on TV)= Super Buu - Everyone (keeps attacks and abbilties, strength and become stronger because Dai Kaioshin is no longer part)

Super buu still has dai kai in him. And if your talking about kid buu in the new one, he doesnt have south kai in him so he is actually weaker.