Architect Question

[Mattlab]

Ok so I am confused about something in the Matrix. What exactly does the architect do in the moive? How was he made and what is is purpose? Is he related to that machine face at the end of the movie?

[Pyros]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architect_(The_Matrix)

Basically, he is the head computer program, the one that keeps making the Matrix.

[Mattlab]

But then what is that machine face at the end of the movie is taht related?

[Pyros]

I believe that is his robotic body in the "real world".

[Iron Surfer]

No, the Architect is not the same as Deus Ex Machina.

The Architect was simply the program that had the responsibility of programming the Matrix. If the Matrix was Windows, he'd be Bill Gates. Maybe not that good of an analogy, but you get the point.

Edit: Why didn't I think of this as I was writing it? If the Matrix was Path of Neo, than the Architect would be Dave Perry. :D

The machine face at the end was Deus Ex Machina, or God in the machine. He was, from what I could tell, kind of the leader of the machines. Or maybe he was a consciousness made up of all the machines, like the Borg. And Smith had gone rogue and was no longer attached to the group mind, which was why he was so dangerous. Well, that and he had gotten some of the "One" code copied onto him.

[Pyros]

Whoops, that is correct, the machine at the end was the collective "personality" on the machines.

[Iron Surfer]

Glad to do my rabid fanboy best to keep people informed. :p

[HannibalKing]

What I would give to beat up the Architect in the game.

[Iron Surfer]

Originally posted by HannibalKing
What I would give to beat up the Architect in the game.

Oh hell yeah. Neo DID say "If I were you I would hope we don't meet again." And yeah, the Archie said "we won't", but it would be cool if you could then give him a few One punches before going through the door to save Trinity.

Ooooh, are we going to be able to choose the OTHER door? I just thought of that.

[HannibalKing]

IMO, I really do think that goes without saying, although yeah, it will end the game. Be funny if there was a mini-game to go with that process heh.

[Pyros]

"Alternate Ending"

Enter door, screen goes black :haha:

[HannibalKing]

Heh, well, technically there are quite possibly a few alternate endings in the game. Take the blue pill, that's an alternate ending. Take the other door, there's another one. Find a way to destroy Agent Smith without sacrificing yourself, another way.

Of course I'm wondering one thing, but I doubt you'd have a choice. Basically I say that because this choice wouldn't end the story, like say choosing the blue pill or the opposite door would.

"In the one hand, you'll have Morpheus' life. And in the other, you'll have your own. One of you is going to die. Which one... will be up to you.

[Alienjf]

sorry i created a new topic about some questions you guys gave me :)

i sure wich they let us kick the architect ass a little too BTW lol

[ZeroPatience]

Kicking the architects ass? Nah, I want to kick the Merovingians ass while he just stands there like a tool watching Neo beat up his henchmen. I mean come on!!! the second biggest baddass (next to Agent Smith) is standing there like part of the marble-work and he just doesn't touch him? That little sprint for him at the end was more than a bit pathetic since he can fly at a Gazillion miles an hour :bored:

[Mattlab]

Ok so I am still confused about what the architect is and does exactly.

[Iron Surfer]

The Architect is a program from the machine world, just like the Oracle. He was the one that designed the Matrix. He designed the perfect Matrix, but it didn't work because humans wouldn't except perfection, so the Oracle added the idea of choice to the Matrix, where humans could subconciously choose to reject it.

There's really not much more to it, but if you have any specific questions I'll do my best to answer them, as I like to think I have it all pretty much down, heheh.

[ZeroPatience]

Well put Iron Surfer. I can't really add more to it than if he is considered the father of the Matrix she is the mother (to kind of in-directly quote from the matrix).

So to sumarise, the Architect has his head so far up his own *** that he could not understand why they would not accept his perfect world, so the Oracle came and helped him out a bit. But the only problem with the acceptance part is that you end up haveing the remainder, which is the one :) Or something like that anyway :p

- ZP

[Jestas]

Well, this thread is funny, sounds almost as someone going to a Star Trek forum and asking "hey, but what were those Borg guys about, anyway? I didn't get it", if you are genuinely curious just go to any matrix fan site and try the search function, or just google for "architect monologue matrix reloaded", there's enough material on this to fill a couple of books, but I guess you just opened a random thread to make the forum page look "phatter" :p

[dom_2283]

Originally posted by Iron Surfer
The Architect is a program from the machine world, just like the Oracle. He was the one that designed the Matrix. He designed the perfect Matrix, but it didn't work because humans wouldn't except perfection, so the Oracle added the idea of choice to the Matrix, where humans could subconciously choose to reject it.

There's really not much more to it, but if you have any specific questions I'll do my best to answer them, as I like to think I have it all pretty much down, heheh.

True, true. also they imply that although every1 plugged into the Matrix has the choice of rejecting the program subconsciuosly, every1 is constantly being conditioned through life experiences and subliminal messages so that they become reliant upon the Matrix and see it as their ultimate reality and gradually become more likely to reject the real world (that's why Morpeus states that they never usually free a mind past a certain age). However only 99.9% of people will respond to the conditioning and the rest will be left unfulfilled by their lives in the Matrix making it more likely that they will start to understand the truth and find a way of escaping, and these are the people who are likely to end up residing in Zion.

The conditioning is also partly the reason for Neo being The One, as the anomaly is supposed to undergo life experiences that helps them to develop compassion for the human race and thus choose the other door to Neo, however, each anomaly is human and thus unpredictable so the conditioning may affect them in different ways. So overall although Neo has a lot of compassion for mankind he experiences his greatest love for Trinity and that inspires him to try to preserve their lives in another way and as a result contributes to him failing to function as the architects anomaly and instead functioning as The One.

Originally posted by HannibalKing
What I would give to beat up the Architect in the game.

Originally posted by ZeroPatience
Kicking the architects ass? Nah, I want to kick the Merovingians ass while he just stands there like a tool watching Neo beat up his henchmen. I mean come on!!! the second biggest baddass (next to Agent Smith) is standing there like part of the marble-work and he just doesn't touch him? That little sprint for him at the end was more than a bit pathetic since he can fly at a Gazillion miles an hour :bored:

I agree fully and i wanna kick both of their a**es. Like u and every1 else i find it so hard to believe that the little jog that Neo does to try to catch him just doesn't cut it. I wonder how good Mero would be in a fight.

[Iron Surfer]

Originally posted by dom_2283
I wonder how good Mero would be in a fight.

We just might get to find out, since he will probably be there in the chateau fight in PoN. :)

[kalel12]

The architech is like a street lamp. In that they both have a job. Ones job is to light the street nothing more nothing less. The others is to design a world were humans could live and believe there in the real world nothing more.

Ok in the end neo wasnt given a choice he was only made to believe that he was. Whether he went right or left it didnt matter Trinity still died and neo was reinserted into the matrix. Everything the architect said would happen happened. The architech designed neo that way.

[santimeau]

By the way I think the "machine head" at the end of Revolutions was B.I.6.6.E.R.

[Jestas]

that robot was destroyed after the trial.. the Deus ex Machina was just the evolution of the AI that was given birth by man, as in the tale told by Morpheus in the first movie :)

[HannibalKing]

The question is, did Archi go to Harvard or MIT...

Anyway, we all hope to be able to take on Merv or Archi, but we all know what we are really wondering...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/Wulverene/ColonelvsArchitect.jpg

[santimeau]

Originally posted by Jestas
that robot was destroyed after the trial.. the Deus ex Machina was just the evolution of the AI that was given birth by man, as in the tale told by Morpheus in the first movie :)
...sec...yeah ur right, jeez

[Alienjf]

HannibalKing
LOL
thats what i was subconscienly thinking=>
is Zion a giant familly bucket of chicken...just joking but there is too much similarities with Kernel Sanders :p

[HannibalKing]

Well, there is a program written for everything in the Matrix... I'm sure the Colonel is responsible for something.

[dom_2283]

Maybe the KFC colonel is to the Architect what Clark Kent is to superman coz if u look the only significant difference is the glasses

Originally posted by kalel12
The architech is like a street lamp. In that they both have a job. Ones job is to light the street nothing more nothing less. The others is to design a world were humans could live and believe there in the real world nothing more.

Ok in the end neo wasnt given a choice he was only made to believe that he was. Whether he went right or left it didnt matter Trinity still died and neo was reinserted into the matrix. Everything the architect said would happen happened. The architech designed neo that way.

was Neo's body actually configured by the machines so that he had the power to destroy sentinels etc in the real world as well then? coz he had powers in the real world too and if not how would the architect be able to tell that his predictions were going to be true when they happened outside of the Matrix?