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matt__jon
10-23-2005, 10:26 AM
Heres my car I bought for $300. Its gonna need a little work.

This pic makes me look like I'm 4 feet tall
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/3848/camaro19pc.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=camaro19pc.jpg)

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7659/camarofront4ya.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=camarofront4ya.jpg)

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1725/camarofside6xr.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=camarofside6xr.jpg)

Wow. I've never used imageshack before, it is the most convenient host ever. It is SO great, why didn't I do this earlier?

#1theman
10-23-2005, 12:53 PM
Whats with the Blue bumber? Nice car long way to go. What colour u going to paint it blue?black?

matt__jon
10-23-2005, 01:38 PM
The guy who had it last damaged the bumper and replaced it with the Camaro Iroc bumper. I'm gonna try to get the ground effects off an Iroc put those on. My friend actually has one of the painter things like they use on TV. Haven't really decided what color I want to paint it yet. Maybe Charcoal? It certainly does have a long way to go, oh well, only live once.

carlover325
10-23-2005, 03:37 PM
The blue back bumper looks weird. The car definitely has potential, you just need to derust it, repair the front bumper damage, paint so it is one solid color, and put some nice wheels on it.

fastdriver
10-23-2005, 03:57 PM
Ive never seen an '86 car in that condition:eek: ! It has potentiontal though:up:

matt__jon
10-23-2005, 05:59 PM
Lol. Its gonna need some sandpaper and bondo. The interior is equally luxurious... It needs a lot of work. The sheet metal panel on the right door is coming off. If worse comes to worse, maybe theres some parts inside it, I can take it apart and sell those make back $300, push the rest off a cliff. Apparently the Berlinetta wheels are sought after cause they're the stock wheels. And I got five of them. Hmm.. Ebay...

I went to a Camaro forum and theres one guy whos selling a Firebird in MUCH better condition than my Camaro, same year, for $900. At least the body looks much better, not sure about the inside, he just has to put the ****** back in and it'll run. Unfortunately he lives in NY. Only a few states away...

Hopefully in a few months I'll be comparing before and after, but I doubt it will happen that fast.

Classic_Muscle
10-23-2005, 10:08 PM
What's it got in it? I thought that was a Berlinetta by the frontend. How's the underneath look? Suspension, frame, steering units...? Well, since you showed off your car I'm gonna show off mine. It's a mid 1997 model Buick Regal GS with a 3.8 liter supercharged V6 (series 2)....putting out well over the stock 240 hp and 280 ft-lbs of torque (numbers vary, since I haven't had it dynoed). I've done a lot of work on it for the past two years, and also done some performance upgrades and done a tiny bit to appearance (some you can't see due to pics being outdated) all myself. I'm doing a little bit at a time. Right now it's running a peak of 12 psi in second gear under full throttle and is estimated to run low 14's. Just minor, minor work done. Stock they can run mid 14's with 7 pounds of boost. Once winter is over, I'll be in the thirteens with a custom tuned PCM by my friend. Yes, it's your regular sleeper car. I'll let the cat out of the bag when I hit 13's...what all I have done to it. It can lay some mean rubber and burn them mashing it at 26 mph.

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9823/frontcorner6zd.th.jpg (http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frontcorner6zd.jpg)http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/6294/front2mn.th.jpg (http://img432.imageshack.us/my.php?image=front2mn.jpg)http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/7826/rearcorner28nq.th.jpg (http://img432.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rearcorner28nq.jpg)

I've killed quite a few V8s in this car...even stock. The fastest car I've beaten was a 4.6 DOHC Mustang Cobra...had him until the 80ish MPH (I braked), then he passed me and went through a redlight. I'm not stupid enough to get killed or get pulled over doing what he did. I've beaten a lot of other cars, but it's been awhile since someone has challenged me...so I've forgotten most of them. I've even raced a 99ish Corvette, but even though I kept up kinda decent, I still got whooped. It's a strong and reliable car.

fastdriver
10-23-2005, 10:17 PM
your car's niiicce. like the rear too. i suggest low profile tires;)
btw matt_jon, every crappy car has potential, just look at the supra in the fast and the furious, it came from the junk yard, don't have to give up;) , um.. actually, id buy the firebird from NY:haha:

Classic_Muscle
10-23-2005, 10:20 PM
I'd go for low-pros, but the due to the sidewalls being so skinny, I would easily have my rims bent within a week. Thanks for the compliment. What do they say...."Looks can be deceiving." The car actually has 225k miles on the body, but I just put in a newer motor and transmission....as well as a new supercharger. So, she's ready to roll once the track reopens!

matt__jon
10-24-2005, 05:44 PM
Supercharged? Nice.:cool:

I live in Norfolk VA, if anyones been here, they know low pros or stiff suspension is not a good idea. Our roads are ****, potholes everywhere. My friend has a Civic Si, he lowered it with cheap coil overs he bought on ebay, damn car bounces everywhere, I swear it can't be good for anyones back, must be why I wake up in the morning and my backs sore. Thats alright though, I'll have my own car up and running soon, no more riding in the back pain from hell mobile, although the Camaro would look sick lowered. Imagine tuckin tire.

Anyway, my Camaro is a 2.8L V6, the guy that sold it to me (don't know how much I trust him yet) *claims* its been rebuilt and has 310 hp. I'll believe it when I see it. Still haven't driven the thing yet, but it did start up when we put a battery on it, so thats an alright sign.

Classic_Muscle
10-24-2005, 07:33 PM
310? Interesting. He probably said it just so you'd buy it quicker. I think it would take a bit just to get that much out of a 2.8 liter, especially if a poweradder is not noticeable once the hood is popped. Not saying you couldn't do internal work and get that much, but I'm just saying he's probably full of it. Very rarely do you see someone do work to a small V6. You'd know once you got into the gas. Did he change the exhaust any? I see tips, but I didn't know if he had headers put on it or a larger diameter exhaust.

Throw in a 350. They are a dime-a-dozen and easily moddifiable. If you had the knowledge or know someone with enough knowledge, you can throw in a newer model 5.7....LT1, LS1, LT4 etc. But I guess your main focus is the body right now. Or if you get enough money, you might try throwing in a 3.8 turbo from a Turbo Trans-Am or a Buick T-Type/Grand National Regal. That would haul butt.

I bought this car for $2k with 209,000 miles with it barely running, due to the supercharger's rotor bearings being wore out and mysterious engine knock at 218k miles. $2k later and I have this....supercharger with less miles (plus an extra one), 98 motor and transmission (with 78k miles) and a bunch of other misc. stuff, but it was well worth it. I'm still working on it right now. I've worked my butt off just to get it back to where it was.

fastdriver
10-24-2005, 08:32 PM
Agree:up:
BUT, Turbo has a draw back, when u step on the gas it's the same then when u go into high rpms it kicks in. u have to wait for the um.. turbines to get to speed in turbos:(

Getaway Man
10-24-2005, 10:09 PM
Is that thing driveable Matt_Jon? It looks like it wouldn't make is one block, no offense. There nothing a little work can't do. For starters, a new paint job.

Classic_Muscle
10-24-2005, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by fastdriver
Agree:up:
BUT, Turbo has a draw back, when u step on the gas it's the same then when u go into high rpms it kicks in. u have to wait for the um.. turbines to get to speed in turbos:( Ah! That is why you powerbrake it until the turbo spools up! Or you can always get a turbo with a smaller inlet to speed up the process. Turbos quiet your car, increase gas mileage and put down hella power. Nothing like racing someone and once the turbo fully spools up, burning rubber past them. Not the case for every car, but for GNs :) or modified vehicles. That's why Turbo Trans-Ams run mid 13's stock. They launch good, don't carry the weight of a V8 and put out quite a bit. Plus, they are aerodynamic.

Anyone got cars they want to post? I'd post my first car, but I don't have any pictures.

matt__jon
10-25-2005, 12:41 PM
I didn't really believe the guy when he said 310 hp, or rebuilt v6. But it was $300 for a Camaro that runs. We need to do some work on it though, we need to put the new radiator in. A new engine might be in the line further down somewhere, what with putting new parts in now, it usually leads to older parts crapping out or so I hear. Oh well, just means I'll have to get a new engine, lol. I'm not too concerned about the body right now, although I will sand and bondo it to stop the rust.

I'm gonna try to keep the V6 with gas prices the way they are, not too concerned about going fast, as long as it sounds good and looks good (in the future) I'll be happy, and when I'm rich I'll either put more money into it or build my own car from scratch. I like to design cars, unfortunately I don't have a job doing it, yet. Hopefully after I get through all the bull**** that is college (except for drinking and women, only reason I came anyway), I'll be designing cars for a respectable company. Hey, if I have to move to Modena Italy to design the Ferrari F70, I'll do it.

About the car, it started up after 2 or 3 turns of the ignition, which for a car that look like that, seems pretty good. I may be wasting my money. Better than pinching my pennies and never spending anything on stuff I want, right? Only live once.

BTW, I'm changing the name of this thread to "Post Your Cars", I'm leaving that part in parenthesis for a while so you guys won't be looking for the thread thinking where'd it go.

Classic_Muscle
10-25-2005, 05:25 PM
Yeah, it's well worth the money if it starts and gets you from point A to point B. Save your money for something else if you are thinking about getting another car. I've gone through my whole account in a matter of two weeks. Sucks being broke for awhile, but the car is a lot more dependable than before.

Here's my old car. It was broken into twice, so I got rid of it. It gave me so much trouble. RIP since the new owner wrecked it.

1987 Chevrolet Monte Carlo LS with the 4.3, V6, auto
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/549000-549999/549437_1_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/549000-549999/549437_2_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/549000-549999/549437_3_full.jpg

These are the only digital pictures I have of the car. I have better pictures, but I don't have a scanner.

I drove it for two years and got $450 less than what I paid for it, when it was sold.:D

#1theman
10-26-2005, 07:16 AM
Heres my beater
http://img469.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jul112418hr.jpg
It just an 1973 Mustang Coupe. Very rare becuase this year was the last conterable for many years. The mach 1 was a goog looking fastback but i like the couppe and the REAL vinattage mustangs.
the engine is just an 6cycladirer 3 speed. Lots of rust looking for an new crossmember with no luck.

matt__jon
10-26-2005, 10:27 AM
That is a good looking Stang. Hopefully I'll get my car to my house finally, I'll take pics of the interior so you can see how bad that looks.

#1theman
10-26-2005, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by matt__jon
That is a good looking Stang. Hopefully I'll get my car to my house finally, I'll take pics of the interior so you can see how bad that looks.
:haha: :haha: :haha: u think. Thats the good looking side. I'm trying to paint it blue and using my other 73 to but the blue interio into it. And i'm cleaing out the egine and but a new 64$CAN cherry bomb perforence muffler and i'm cuttinh out the crossmember to get an company to build a new stainless steel crossmember. But i got a long way to go before i hit 16.

Classic_Muscle
10-26-2005, 06:54 PM
Paint it yellow and put a black stripe down the middle. May not be a fastback, but it's the right year for Eleanor. OH and rebuild the heads, change out the timing chain and gears, dampener and throw in an aggressive camshaft. Then adjust the timing and carb. Throw on some massive side exhaust with headers and roll.:cool:

fastdriver
10-26-2005, 07:06 PM
and do that leafblower trick, where u take off your air filter and.. just watch this video! http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=AB544E3B-5DFF-416D-9CFD-A1AD23CA9564&kw=37&p=8
so, it boosts hp, but i think the engine will have a shorter life span

Classic_Muscle
10-26-2005, 07:20 PM
It's not safe. It makes your car run filthy rich to make up for the massive amount of air entering and it's not filtered. It can foul out your spark plugs, ruin your catalytic converter, mix with your oil, and it's not really worth it IMO. If someone wants a ton of air entering the car either get a centrifugal supercharger or find a supercharger that bolts on top of the engine. We tried it on my friends car and it was too much for it. It ran extremely rich and bogged it down...resulting in it stalling everytime. It's still funny, but I hope no one attempt to use it on the street.

#1theman
10-26-2005, 07:40 PM
Yellow? Come on. , I really dont like yellow u sould have seen the blue 73 or the Green 78 or the white 74 or the 70 mustang we had now there just siting out back rusting.For the coupe this blue looks really good.
Yeah I might by an Air Ram only 150$ not much and put it in for looks right now it got 95bhp:( .
:( As u can see i'm the ford family.:D

carlover325
10-26-2005, 08:07 PM
I can tell. There is a Ford Taurus in the background. Your family has had a lot of Mustangs. My mom had one, I don't remember what year it was, but it was nice, but it got totalled. :(

Classic_Muscle
10-26-2005, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by #1theman
Yellow? Come on. , I really dont like yellow u sould have seen the blue 73 or the Green 78 or the white 74 or the 70 mustang we had now there just siting out back rusting.For the coupe this blue looks really good.
Yeah I might by an Air Ram only 150$ not much and put it in for looks right now it got 95bhp:( .
:( As u can see i'm the ford family.:D Yeeesh, ram-air for $150? You could build one yourself for less than $60 with a nice setup. As for the yellow, I meant to hint at your car becoming an Eleanor clone.

fastdriver
10-26-2005, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Classic_Muscle
It's not safe. It makes your car run filthy rich to make up for the massive amount of air entering and it's not filtered. It can foul out your spark plugs, ruin your catalytic converter, mix with your oil, and it's not really worth it IMO. If someone wants a ton of air entering the car either get a centrifugal supercharger or find a supercharger that bolts on top of the engine. We tried it on my friends car and it was too much for it. It ran extremely rich and bogged it down...resulting in it stalling everytime. It's still funny, but I hope no one attempt to use it on the street.
Yep, that's exactly what i thought, exept without the rich discription:haha: u know a lot about cars:up:

xtsubarublazin
10-27-2005, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by matt__jon


This pic makes me look like I'm 4 feet tall


No kidding. How tall are you? It's not like these cars are SUV-sized, so if you're only a bit taller than it, I'm guessing you're only like 5' 5" or so?

Classic_Muscle
10-27-2005, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by fastdriver
Yep, that's exactly what i thought, exept without the rich discription:haha: u know a lot about cars:up: I only went to school for it.;)

matt__jon
10-27-2005, 10:00 AM
I'm 5'10"

Is it just me or do pictures never really do cars justice? Cars always look taller and shorter in length in pictures for some reason, they look so much better in real life. Why is that? Is the camera lens out of whack on every camera?

Ooh, I just got a theory, maybe its because our eyes are spherical and cameras eyes are flat?

Nothing wrong with yellow, you'll have the brightest car on the road. Although, some cars don't look good in certain colors, obviously, like a bright colored luxury car would just look weird. Even a Skyline GT-R doesn't look good in bright colors, I don't know why, it just doesn't.

I wonder, could you make your own supercharger? Imagine if you took off your intake and put a propeller on it (make sure it spins air into the engine and not out, lol) and hooked the propeller up to the belts. Sure, it wouldn't work as good as a real supercharger, but it would be fun.

If you're gonna be cramming more air than normal into you engine, you need a fuel management system, don't you?

Classic_Muscle
10-27-2005, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by matt__jon
I'm 5'10"

Is it just me or do pictures never really do cars justice? Cars always look taller and shorter in length in pictures for some reason, they look so much better in real life. Why is that? Is the camera lens out of whack on every camera? Don't worry, I look taller in my pictures and I'm 5'8". Weird how that works...

Originally posted by matt__jon
I wonder, could you make your own supercharger? Imagine if you took off your intake and put a propeller on it (make sure it spins air into the engine and not out, lol) and hooked the propeller up to the belts. Sure, it wouldn't work as good as a real supercharger, but it would be fun.

If you're gonna be cramming more air than normal into you engine, you need a fuel management system, don't you? You can make your own supercharger by using an air pump/smog pump from a car. It's the device used for emissions (air injection). Just make a custom bracket or figure a way to use it in place of the A/C compressor, then route the hose up to the intake and figure out a way to route the belt around it. You might be able to find a Camaro that came stock with a pump. That's about as good as you'll get to a custom made supercharger. You just have to get real creative. Just don't buy a Tornado! Those are worthless. Especially for a supercharged car like mine. I actually got worse gas mileage and a decrease in hp. Proven! And aftermarket electric superchargers are worthless too.

You'll have to ask the old timers about the fuel delivery question. I'm an OBD-II guy.:p I'm almost sure that it would make up for the air, by enrichening the fuel, but I'm not 100%. Let's put it this way...if you want great gas mileage, get it tuned by replacing a chip in the computer (ECU, ECM, PCM same thing just different names).

matt__jon
10-28-2005, 12:03 AM
Yeah those tornadoes get in the way. Never heard about using the pumps as superchargers, though they're probably not as good as a real supercharger.

Classic_Muscle
10-28-2005, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by matt__jon
Yeah those tornadoes get in the way. Never heard about using the pumps as superchargers, though they're probably not as good as a real supercharger. You'd probably get maybe 2 pounds of boost, but hey that's somethin'.

matt__jon
10-28-2005, 10:36 AM
I wonder... how about a vacuum cleaner? As long as you put the filter thing on there, it'd be clean air.