Miller’s Hollow and Buccaneer Harbor (Updated 2/02/06 Downloads being added)

[KiDFoX]

Fox Amusements - Council Bluffs Iowa

Miller's Hollow now available. If it lags don't say I didn't warn you!!!
KiDFoX's Miller's Hollow (http://www.kidfox.net/public/kfmh.zip)

It works for me, I can operate Miller's Hollow at full capacity up 3000 happy peeps and it generates a ton of cash but it does lag even on my system, sometimes badly. In the zip is the park file and a folder called millers, this has all the images for the billboards. It should work to unzip both the image folder and the park file into your parks folder. I am hoping that by doing this all the billboards willwork for you. If you put the images anywhere where else other than leaving them in the millers folder and putting that folder in your parks folder they will more than likely not work.

Buccaneer Harbour Available: As noted on page 5 there are differnt versions so that you can decide which one you want based on your computer performance.

Water Park Only File (http://www.kidfox.net/public/KFBH3.zip)

Buccaneer Harbour and Laser Show grounds (http://www.kidfox.net/public/KFBH2.zip)

Buccaneer Harbour Version Water Park, Trails West Hotel and Laser Show grounds (http://www.kidfox.net/public/BH.zip)

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh1.jpg

Phase one of our new resort complex is now open. Trails West Resort Hotel is a 180 room hotel and conference center adjacent to our newest theme park, (currently under construction) and the site of our first indoor water park.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh2.jpg

Trails West named after the historic role Council Bluffs played in westward expansion in the United States features a full service restaurant and meeting facilities for large or small conferences, weddings, reunions and more.


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh3.jpg


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh4.jpg


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh5.jpg


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh6.jpg


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh7.jpg


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh8.jpg

[j2cCreations]

KIDFox, Trails West Resort Hote, is amazing! I want to see more.l:)

[Soda Jerk 205]

AMAZING! That is monsterous!

How big is that thing? How long has this taken you to build?

[KiDFoX]

It's about 64x16 11 floors of rooms 188 rooms total. There is still a little more to do like add a pool and finish the meeting rooms.

[Turbo74]

Wait, are your building the inside of the hotel, too? Wow, that looks awesome!

[Xophe]

Wow, that is amazing! I love your use of lighting, the blue glass looks very good. I also like the billboards. Can't wait to see how this progresses...

[W1ckeD]

:eek: :eek: :eek:
Can you post some inside shots?:cool:

[Noobie]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: amazing!

[MDEKing]

That's simply awesome. Can't wait to see the indoor waterpark.:up:

[U.L. Shadow]

How long did take you to make this buildings?

[KiDFoX]

I think it took about 4 hours. The design makes it possible to use some tricks such as both towers are identical so I only need to build one then save it. There were a few other tricks using custom structures that make it faster to build something that big. If I have time later I will show you.

[AceHawkX]

4 hours!! I get so bored after 1 hour without building a coaster. You have the patience and the skill to make amazing parks. Good luck with this one, it's great so far. :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[W1ckeD]

Please post more screens of this super building! :D :eek:

[KiDFoX]

I will get more shots of this tonight when I get back home. I have a few things to finish up and the hotel will be complete. I don't show my parks until they are almost finished so that is why I am just showing you the resort hotel right now. It is darn near complete.

AceHawkX: This project spans two maps one has the theme park one has the hotel and the indoor water park. It will take some time to complete but I find I have to build some of the structures and themed areas before coasters so things fit in proportion.

[grod4L]

Oh...MY....GOD! No lie...when I first saw this I thought it was real. You're incredible at making these buildings; I hate to think how much time it took to make even one of them!

I can't WAIT to see more! :up:

[Plokoon111]

HUHHHHHHHH!!! OH MY FREAKEN GOD! THATS THE BEST HOTEL/ CONDO EVAR!!!!!!! FIVE STARS FOER YOU MOST DEFFENTLLY!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Soda Jerk 205]

Ok let me get this straight

4 hours,
64x16
188 rooms

And it works like a hotel, you can go inside and its like a hotel.

I wish i could build like you :(

[DrMontigo]

4 hours, 188 rooms.
That's about 20 rooms a minute.
That's one room every 3 seconds.
Ow! :confused:

/edit
Wait a sec... my maths have let me down again. :(
It's 47 rooms an hour - which is one every 76 seconds.

/edit
You build fast and well at the same time; a real talent you got there!

[KiDFoX]

Thanks for the comments everyone.

The rooms themselves are just rooms. Lack of good scenery for a hotel room doesn't leave much to do with them other than place the walls.

So here is how I got it done so fast.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh14.jpg

Build the floors separate save them as a custom structure and place them later.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh15.jpg

The end walls are 1/2 as long as the sides so I built the ends and to build the sides I just had to place one by the other.

Once those things are in place I just needed to add the decoration to complete one tower and save it then place it to get the second tower.

Here are the exciting hallways outside the guest rooms

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh9.jpg

After that I just need to add connecting corridors between them and things like the new pool.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh10.jpg


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh11.jpg


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh16.jpg


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh17.jpg


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh12.jpg
Another exterior view

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh13.jpg
The lobby and entry to the grand ballroom.

I think unless more content comes out that can improve it this is basically done. I may add a theatre to the hotel complex later but hat would be the only thing left to do.

[stlouismaverick]

OMG!That hotel is amazing, the detail and everything is just incredible.I can't even make a hotel like 1/8 of that size, nice job, and from what I've seen, you're one of the best designers here at Atari.Keep up the good work.:D

[marnetmar]

Looks fantastic KiDFoX :up: :up: :up: Very realistic looking hotels

[j2cCreations]

One thing that you could have also done was even put that floor you have there and place it at every level...unless you did that or you can't do that...I don't save buildings that often so I don't know.

[shyguy]

WOW!!! Simply stunning!

[stazz]

1 question bout that restort, how did you do the slanted walls?

[KiDFoX]

I think that is the diagonal wall from the Sultan's Palace. It is standard RCT3 scenery. Almost everything on the exterior of the building is standard RCT3 scenery.


j2cCreations: That is what I did :)

[stazz]

can you actually get to that pool cuz as far as i no its impossible to save paths on structures

[KiDFoX]

If I were to save the entire complex I could save the scnery with the pool and you would have to replace the path but there is a path up to the pool.

[AceHawkX]

what are the wall peices between the full glass walls?

[KiDFoX]

Slate walls, walls from the sultan's palace sets and Klinn's recolorable wall from his Frameworks.

The only custom scenery is Klinn's wall, Pumper's lightning wall, Pumper's 1/4 cube from his Blox set and Shy guy’s cornice and corner trim pieces.

[stazz]

hey kidfox mind if i make a tut bout this?

edit : also do you mind if i try to make sumthing similer to this in my new parks

[KiDFoX]

No I don't mind. Fair warning that buildings this big and with that much "glass" on them tend to lag your park. That is why the hotel is next to the water park not the theme park.

[gforcejunkie]

:up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

Crazy Awsome!!!

[stazz]

kidfox im having some small probs making this, ima pm u with my progress and da question

[W1ckeD]

Any updates on this great building!? :D

[KiDFoX]

No updates the buildings are done more or less I won't update again until I have one or both of the parks finished.

[larry241]

Very nice KF. The buildings look great. Very...60's-ish modern.
Can't wait to see what you have in store next. Oh yeah, I use the same trick of saving structures to use for multiple use/insert. It works great.
Later!

[TrentD]

KidFox

THat hotel is absolutely amazing. Awesome job, I cant believe how good it looks!

[Gibdo]

Those screenshots actually made me say "Wow". No, really, I said "Wow" ;)

Its good. :up:

[sfmmFREAK]

that hotel looks kinda like a Hayat Regency. GOOD JOB!!!!

[NYRfan85]

That hotel is BEAUTIFUL! It looks like something that could be built in real life. Also thanks for the tip on how to build it quickly and painlessly!:D :up:

[KiDFoX]

I am taking a slight risk because I try not to post about my parks on here until things are darn near finished. I think I will finish the theme park portion of this project this weekend.

The risk is that I may not get done and since I use Pumper’s Blox custom set and he has not had time to update them for Wild yet I probably will not put a download link up. If he has still not had time to do them by the time the water park phase is done I may have to consider replacing things that use Blox with other scenery.

Ok so enough bloviating on with the update. I posted some of these before in a different thread but here it is again.


The first rule of Fox Amusements new projects is you do not talk about the new projects!


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh36.jpg

With the success we have had with keeping the attractions in our new park secret it was surprising when a strange vehicle showed up in the parking lot at the park one morning.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh37.jpg

Our head janitor called out the park police to investigate the situation.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh38.jpg

Looks like the competition is here to try and find out what we are doing. No one ever said they were subtle... Maybe Mr. Six just wants to dance in our parking lot?

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh26.jpg

The park police got things under control before any damage could be done to our image or profits the bus was quickly turned around and sent down the road to St. Louis. Just in time too as Maple's our new family restaurant was set to open that morning!

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh29.jpg

So here is what Mr. Six did see... The entrance to Miller's Hollow!

And a sneak peek at what he didn't see...

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh23.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh34.jpg

Looks like a few coasters in the park...


And lastly...

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh40.jpg

We thought the pass gate was finished and ready for final landscaping until we noticed the sign shop had made a slight error.

After scheduling the entire graphics department for drug testing the problem was corrected. We are waiting for the results of the tests...

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh28.jpg

[larry241]

Well, it's a definite WOW. Oh yeah. Great job with those supports. I can't wait to see how the other coasters look. What piece did you use for the angled decorative roof supports on the tower of the building? The stone walls look great with the scenery too.
Thanks again for sharing.

PS - my ONLY critique of this marvelous place - the metal truss that's embedded in the concrete columns would be totally rusted if they're set in the water. steel/water - hmmm, not good. But, hey, if this were real life - we'd have much better custom scenery :)

See ya!

[KiDFoX]

Originally posted by larry241
What piece did you use for the angled decorative roof supports on the tower of the building? The stone walls look great with the scenery too.


That is the stall cover from Pumper's Blox.

I love that stone wall it works for so many differnt things.

That steel support is just trim to break up the solid color. I would guess in an actuall application you migh have that patern poured into the concrete.

[Chickenselects]

You are a architectural genius, I love that hotel. As well as all your parks. Great Job, I cant wait to see more :D

[VapourMike]

Whoa!

[satriales]

Stunning work :up:

[Teirmose]

I am truly impressed. Great workmanship KiDFoX.http://img40.echo.cx/img40/1084/cazbravo5fj.gif

[bluesnake]

:eek: Great hotel and impressive entrance building,too :eek:

This is going to be an outstanding park. Will impatiently wait until you are finished. ;) :D

[Gibdo]

Another "Wow" from me. Those are exceptional KiDFoX. I love your building work. :up:

[marnetmar]

Everything looks Fantastic KiDFoX :up: :up: :up:

[KiDFoX]

Well this will teach me not to post before I am done with the park.

I am running into serious issues that I thought were with Wild! But I now strongly suspect a custom scenery set is stressing the game engine leading to stop errors on my video drivers.

I have tried various versions of the drivers backing up to older versions etc. with no success but removing some of the scenery is resulting in better performance so I think that is what I will have to do.

This is not what I wanted to do and if it solves the problem it will not be news anyone will like hearing since it is a very popular set that seems to be causing the problem.

I tried removing the set totally and had none of the serious lag I had been getting in the park. Once I get all the scenery removed I can test this more extensively to make sure the stop errors do not come back and I can bring my drivers back up to date and test again.

This means the park progress is at a total standstill until I can solve this problem. I think it turns not to be the scenery I will continue this conversation in the custom scenery forum.

The park will be finished I am just having to find other ways of doing a few things as this scenery is removed so it will not be this weekend, could be next if this doesn't take too long.

[wabigbear]

Hmmmm, I've been having a similar problem this past week or so with stop errors KiDFoX, and this is a brand new machine with up-to-date cards. I wonder if it's the same pack that's causing the problem? Although I haven't posted screens here, my park is also fairly large and extensively uses custom pieces. It doen't happen every time I play, but has occured several times, usually while I was either trying to remove a piece or adjust something near it...

[hillibilly]

What set do you think it is?

[Jdude360]

That's amazing! Great job! That must have taken ages! :eek:

[KiDFoX]

Hi again,

Just wanted to say I will post what set I think it is when I have tested things enough to be sure that it is just one set. Once I can verify that there are no problems without the set in the park I can let you know.

I just don't want to start any misinformation around the forums about this problem and once I am pretty sure of what it is there may be a solution that the custom scenery creators can come up with so that is why I will take the discussion to the appropriate forum.

[k_peek_2000]

Iowa is the meth/cokaine capital of the world.

BUT WOW THATS AN AMAZING PARK/HOTEL. THE MOST INCREBABLE RESORT IVE SEEN!!!!!!!!

[KiDFoX]

Originally posted by k_peek_2000
Iowa is the meth/cokaine capital of the world.

Well some might think so but do a google on that and you will find far more refferences to counties in California than you will to Iowa. Yes we have a meth problem here but there is not agreed upon meth capital of the world but I think if there were it would not be in Iowa.


BUT WOW THATS AN AMAZING PARK/HOTEL. THE MOST INCREBABLE RESORT IVE SEEN!!!!!!!!

Thanks :)

I hope it can turn out that well when finished I am having a very difficult time getting things to work well enough to complete it.

[marnetmar]

This really is an excellent looking park KiDFoX, I'm sorry to hear about your problems with it. I hope you can get everything worked out soon.

[KiDFoX]

I don't really want to bump this thread with this but if anyone else is seeing similar problems with blue screens or stop erorrs can you check this thread (http://ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=505141) and if you could either PM me or email me off my web page with any info that would be great. I would rather not discuss theories about user created sets on the forums but rather in private until we know what is going on. Thanks!

[Lux_Dreaming]

The scenery you might be having prbolems with is Pumpers Blox set. It is not yet Wild compatible, I don't think. I tried to use it and crashed to desktop immediately.

Hope that helps.

[Cyberleader]

All this is amazing. The level of detail is just great!!!!

[Dave Art]

Where in Iowa is this? I have been to Iowa twice in my life and loved it both times but never saw this. If this park is really or if it is not it is an AWESOME job by KidFox either way. Great Work!!!

[KiDFoX]

Originally posted by Dave Art
Where in Iowa is this? I have been to Iowa twice in my life and loved it both times but never saw this. If this park is really or if it is not it is an AWESOME job by KidFox either way. Great Work!!!

It's not a recreation it's purely fictional. I have never tried a recreation but I might soon.

[ThaSchwab]

A KidFoX park recreation? its like i died and went to heaven! and went on the internet! and the Atari forums! :mdr2:

[KiDFoX]

After a lot of redesigning I have taken care of the problem with custom scenery. Several areas of the park had to be rebuilt but it is now about 98% complete again and seems to be running normally with 2200 peeps.

For now here are some pictures of Twist and Shout our impulse coaster. The station has been redesigned to be more open.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh41.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh42.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh43.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh44.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh45.jpg

Looks like there is a line forming back there.

[larry241]

That's a nice pic. Which one is D'Artagnan? ;)
Great use of iceatac's and stuk's supports!!!
Again, you never cease to amaze. Thanks for sharing!

[aennilQ]

woa- theyre so short....

[KiDFoX]

woa- theyre so short....

They are kids, they are supposed to be short!

A few photos showing some of the new Iowa Expo themed area.

Plaza with rides and shops
http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh46.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh47.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh49.jpg


Expo train station
http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh48.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh50.jpg

Ride station
http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh51.jpg

[KiDFoX]

I will try to get more pictures up when I get a chance tomorrow.

Here are a few for now :)

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/newsite/mhsplash.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh52.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh53.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh54.jpg


EDIT: Semi-whine removed

Thanks!

[larry241]

Wow - nice stuff. I like the collage you did. Ingenius. Cool looking stage. Where'd you get the wheel? Marnetmar's set?

[KiDFoX]

Wow - nice stuff. I like the collage you did. Ingenius. Cool looking stage. Where'd you get the wheel? Marnetmar's set?

Whew, I was just starting to think no one was paying attention. Wouldn't bug me except I douple posted already and 12 hours later no one had responded :)

Anyhow the water wheel is one of the very cool objects made by Lulujarre and I got it off of Battor77's website http://battor.77.free.fr/indexrct3/download.php?jeu=rct3&type=objets

[larry241]

Thanks. Sure could have used that stuff in Roaring Canyons. Oh well. BTW, your land coloring looks great around the mill. Some shrubs would really round it out nicely.
Can't wait to see more :)

[Xophe]

This is looking really good! I love your use of the Steelworx set - it gives the architecture a good modern feel, and the bright colours work unexpectedly well. Miller's Hollow is also extemely well done, as is that stage. :)

[KiDFoX]

Miller's Hollow has 6 themed areas:

Town Square
Iowa Expo
Miller's Hollow Westward Trail Town
Kamp KiDFoX Family Fun Zone
Miller's Hollow Boardwalk
and the Iowa Farm

This is the Iowa Farm

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh55.jpg
The farm itself is a replica of the farm that stands next to Fox Amusements first park Shoreview Park.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh56.jpg
The Crop Duster bi-plane ride

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh57.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh58.jpg
Entrance to Barnstormer

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh59.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh60.jpg
Striving for more realism in this park here is the side track on Barnstormer

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh61.jpg
It's kinda big...

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh62.jpg
Some of the elements on Barnstormer. Don't hold me to this but I think I chose the twister coaster cars on this one it is built with the Extended Coaster.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh63.jpg
We put the Graphics Department to work in this park.

[larry241]

Love that layout!
I was just thinking...hmmmm...Busch Gardens...Miller's Hollow...hmmmm
Just kidding. ;)

[mcjaco]

Very cool park.

One note, the drum set on the stage is backwards. Rotate it 180. :noob:

[aennilQ]

i like it, except that coaster seems a bit too big, for the realistic and natural feel that the rest of the park, and that area specifically, has.

[Magnum]

Awesome as always, KiDFoX!

That stage looks great and the waterwheel was new to me...
Fox Amusements seem well prepared for the 2006 season...

To all your "employees"... Merry Christmas!

[KiDFoX]

Some shots of another of the 8 coasters at Miller's Hollow Twist and Shout.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh65.jpg
Peeps on the Lewis and Clark Canoe's check out Twist and Shout from the lake.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh66.jpg
Peeps line up for a ride

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh67.jpg
The Queue offers great views of the lake and boardwalk

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh68.jpg
From the Skywheel you can see details of the station mimic the track on the ride.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh69.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh70.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh71.jpg
I should have kept track of how many pieces went into this station.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh72.jpg
The control room by the station contains the power source for the LIM

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh73.jpg
The train reflected in the water

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh74.jpg
So far this is the peeps favorite coaster in the park.

[DisneyFREAK1178]

Very nice park. I like the colorful custom scenery.

[coasterdude89]

Amazing...so realistic. I love all of your parks!

[hillibilly]

Barnstormer looks awsome. I like all the little detials you throw in. They all really add up for more realism. Keep up the good work.

PS. I will bump if it gets to far back.;) :up:

[KiDFoX]

Well now that Miller's Hollow is nearly complete construction has shifted into high gear over at Buccaneer Harbor our new indoor water park connected to the Trails West Resort Hotel.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh18.jpg
The steel structure has gone up over the wave pool and soon the walls will be fininshed and the roof will be on.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh19.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh20.jpg
It won't be long now.

[robo268]

This is truly amazing Kidfox i love this park. It is so realistic feels like i have been to that park. but the park is fictional

[Justin556]

Wow Cool A Indoor Water Park Doing A Good Job Cant Wait To Download It

[rct3freak]

Wow, this park is amazing:up:

[marnetmar]

Great work on this park KiDFoX :up: :up: Very realistic looking, I'm sure you spent hours on the station alone, but the hard work & time spent really shows in all the great details.

[MDEKing]

I'm in love with Twist and Shout. The station is simply amazing!

Can't wait for the download.:up:

[KiDFoX]

Finally Bucanneer Harbor is complete.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh21.jpg
The exterior theming has just been finished.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh22.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh23.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh24.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh25.jpg


Inside the water park

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh26.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh27.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh28.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh29.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh30.jpg

[Chickenselects]

Verry refreshing, love the pool complex. Good job KF

[Six Flags]

Your park is Amazing! I like the water park indoors thats awsome very well done I like how it looks so real. Your park is Awsome to I like your impulse coaster looks really good right by the lake there this is a very well done park. Your theme is very well done to keep the Amazing work up! I cant wait to see more!

[Magnum]

Oh... so sweet...

Buccaneer Harbour looks incredible... And that coaster station is one of the most intricate and detailed structures I have ever seen... KiDFoX quality!

(And I just realized that you have a park named Shoreview... now I know how I came up with the name for my Lakeview park...:D ... Hope you don't mind...)

As always, your work provides so much inspiration...

[larry241]

Wow, just stunning. The mixture of walls types works so well! I love how the windows on the inside tranform to be something totally different on the outside. Great work!

[KiDFoX]

(And I just realized that you have a park named Shoreview... now I know how I came up with the name for my Lakeview park...:D ... Hope you don't mind...)

I don't mind I got the name form a Riverview Park in Iowa that was closed in 1978. I also noticed just now that I have been spelling Buccaneer Harbour as Buccaneer Harbor. I got the name off the Tampa Bay Buccanneer’s website and they spell it Harbour like you did. Never noticed that till just now.

Wow, just stunning. The mixture of walls types works so well! I love how the windows on the inside tranform to be something totally different on the outside. Great work!

Actually the windows you see inside do not transform to something different outside. Only the front has the themed faced and those large windows are on the sides and back of the main structure which is just plain walls. I don’t think I will do anything different with the sides or back but the front certainly was intended to be themed like a harbor.

Nothing left to do but small details now and mess with the fireworks show. The water park/hotel/resort complex and the theme park are basically finished. And thank God really I am ready to do some smaller projects for awhile thes massive theme parks are hard to finish!

[Soda Jerk 205]

Well, a plus to smaller parks is that they can (Hopefully) run on my computer. I thought I had a decent computer unill I Loaded your past parks.

[KiDFoX]

Soda: The Buccaneer Harbor file is much smaller than the Miller's Hollow file. The only thing that might slow it down is the amount of scenery on the hotel when the camera faces that direction it does lag a bit on my PC.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh31.jpg
Just to give you an idea of the size this is from the roof of the hotel

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh32.jpg
Looking in from the roof of Buccaneer Harbor.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh33.jpg
This is from the hotel parking lot

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh34.jpg
This is more water slides

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh36.jpg
And this is some theming with more buccaneers

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh37.jpg
Here is a view from the lounge which I think I will call the Crows Nest

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh38.jpg
This is looking toward the crows nest at night

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh39.jpg
Here is a view of the hotel

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh40.jpg
And this is where the lazer and firework show will be

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/si1.jpg
And this is the Spanish Inquisition.

[larry241]

Stop it! That's just silly! Nobody expects a Spanish Inquisition!

[iceatcs]

Wow that's great, seem that I have missed one piece that forget to add, the small corner roof board which it is show on one of your part timber building..
no worries, I can do that v soon. hold on.

[KiDFoX]

Wow that's great, seem that I have missed one piece that forget to add, the small corner roof board which it is show on one of your part timber building..
no worries, I can do that v soon. hold on.

I was thinking you had one of those already. Looks like if you did I forgot to add it to the building but it sure seems to me that you had a small roof corner. I will have to check that out now.

[KiDFoX]

Almost went to page 3 since the last update.

It won't be long now until the few the brave the ones with powerful PCs can try this park out. Now that Jonwil has updated Pumper's Blox I jut need a tweak here and there and it is done! The water park and resort hotel file will take a bit longer since I want to add a mixmaster show to it first and those take me a long time. It will be a short mixmaster show I am sure...

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh75.jpg
Ronnie's! I love Ronnie's! I'll have a Ronnie's Bacon Ranch Burger with Chili Cheese Fries and Prince’s Purple Rain grape soda please!

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh76.jpg
Maple's! Oh no I just ate at Ronnie's but maybe I am hungry enough for some Pancakes with real north woods maple syrup or some Maple's Ice Cream, or a nice 10oz Ribeye...


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh77.jpg
Oh look Brad Stine and Montgomery Gentry are here!


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh78.jpg
Trails to Adventure! Lewis and Clark were the first "white men" to see this area of Iowa and in years to follow the area that is present day Council Bluffs Iowa was an important stop on several westward expansion trails including the Mormon trail.


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh79.jpg
Oh no... more ice cream I better stay off the spin and puke rides!


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh80.jpg
Maybe I better catch the show first...


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh81.jpg
Outdoor eating for the 3 days that are nice enough to be outdoors in Iowa. We get at least that many a year. Actually with the shade it should be nice most of the summer.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh82.jpg
One last Town Square detail for now.

And now for something completely different...

For those who do not check the Scenarios forum and who think all I ever do is build massive laggy theme parks you need a super computer to run here is a peak at two of the 12 scenarios I am working on. Check on the scenarios page to see the progress of this pack. Plug Plug Plug...

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/fv/fv36.jpg
I was thinking, Why did those aliens land at Devils Tower in Spielberg’s Close Encounters of the Third Kind?

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/fv/fv44.jpg
This building is something I had been planning for a long time but thanks to Shyguy it can now be done convincingly.

[Phil]

Awesome KidFox!

[Coaster_Phantom]

Great work KiDFoX! How do you get your great ideas? Do you find a lot of inspiration in looking at pictures of existing buildings or do you really create this all in your own head? My compliments!

[Magnum]

It's looking better than ever, KiDFoX... Maybe me and my son should spend our summer vacation in Iowa instead of Mallorca...:haha:

And I guess I'll have to check out those scenarios...

Small question...: Inthat last scenario pic you have some diagonal structure pieces to support the roof... What custom set are they from? (...if it's Steelworx I have to mess with that pack some more...)

[KiDFoX]

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh83.jpg

Thanks for the comments and questions makes it worth the time to post here.

To answer Coaster_Phantom and Magnum:

Inspiration comes from a number of places. Some of the things are pure imagination like the Twist and Shout station and the station in the picture above for Hawk. The building in the last picture of my previous post is my creation although the idea of the cantilevered room is loosely based on the Infinity room at the House on the Rock. The idea to build it came form a suggestion someone posted in the Rock Ridge scenario thread to create an infinity room like they had at the House on the Rock so that inspiration came form a user on the forums.

About the supports on that building, those are Jacat's Steelworks. Just like in the picture above I have really started to like using them as structural elements for buildings and not just coasters. I used that set extensively on Miller's Hollow for the coasters and for structural and decorative elements on buildings.

[Dattu]

KiDFoX, I am in love with this park! All the little details are fantastic! :up:

[Justin556]

ok Is It Ready For Download

[Soda Jerk 205]

So this is two separate files? right? Waterpark/Hotel and the other is the actual park?

[gforcejunkie]

All this exitement is bundled up inside me from this park and makes me just want to scream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:eek2: :eek2: :turning: :turning: :hat: :hat: :160: :nuts:


:dbz3_8: <wtf?

[KiDFoX]

Thanks for the comments:

Soda Jerk 205: Yes this is on two park files it would have been near impossible to do on one and the lag would have been horrendous even on my system. I get about 12-16fps daytime with around 2600 peeps in Millers Hollow. I haven't tested Buccaneer Harbor yet.

Justin556: I am not quite ready to post it for download. I want to test everything and I am being very picky with this project and I know there are still some custom stalls that need to be renamed and little things like that to do but I am hoping to have both files done and up for download this weekend sometime. If I get too busy with life this weekend I am very sure it will be no later than next weekend. I need to test Buccaneer Harbor for profitability and staffing to keep things clean and running with high ratings. I also have a lot of stalls to place in the hotel still but that should go fast.

The hard part is done it is just the details now.


On to screen shots!

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/firstpark.jpg
I decided to blow all of Miller's Hollow away and I built this instead...








Just kidding! Actually that is my frist sandbox park in RCT3 the notorious Kamp KiDFoX before any of the renovations started. Why did I post that here?

Two reasons:

First to show my "skills" when I started and second...


http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/tecmouse.jpg
This little event ride was a real disaster, literally. I called it Tectonics it was supposed to be a wild mouse in a danger canyon sort of thing but the problem was it had an intensity rating of about 15 and an excitement of around 25 I think. In short it would have killed anyone who rode it and peeps avoided it like the plague.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh84.jpg
I have done a lot of renovation on that first park and when I built the new entrance I removed Tectonics even though it had gotten trams instead of a wild mouse and actually worked much better. I changed the name of that park to Highland Lakes and planned to use Kamp KiDFoX as the name for my family zones in my parks. This is the first park that I did that in.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh84.jpg
I group some gentle and family rides together in this area and try to theme it sort of like a summer camp.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh85.jpg
So since this was the first use of the New Kamp KiDFoX concept I brought back Tectonics. Before I removed it I had saved the tram and scenery. The ride events are still in the same place they were in my first sandbox park the only thing I did here was improve the landscapes and theming for the ride.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh86.jpg
Wild's billboards make it possible to do this ride the way I wanted to in the first place.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh87.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh88.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/mh89.jpg
Since this is a very low intensity ride I thought it worked well in a family zone.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/map.jpg
And the last one for now is a view of the entire park with the different areas labeled.

[Phil]

looking good :up:

[-[A.S] Fanie-]

I could cuss right now cause this park is so good, but I won't :D

[W1ckeD]

Every Time i see a post of you in this topic i hope for a update! :D
This is looking outstanding.
I love all the details and the "real" feeling of this park.

Keep it up!
Can't wait for a update! :D :D

[Chickenselects]

Awesome, KF. The details are amazing. Great Job!

[gforcejunkie]

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:10sur10:

[Justin556]

Wow Nice Park I Love It

[W1ckeD]

Sorry for asking but: Any updates!? :D
I love :heart: the indoor waterpark,infact....I love all your parks! :D

[Cyport]

http://www.mazeguy.net/surprised/jaw-dropping.gif This just gets better and better, just makes me wanna go on all the rides!

[KiDFoX]

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bhsign2.jpg

Opening day at Buccaneer Harbour was a resounding success.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh41.jpg
The East Coaster Club seemed to enjoy Buccaneer Harbour and stopped on the foot bridge entrance over the lazy river for a photo.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh42.jpg
The West Coaster Club seemed to like wandering about the park and liked the hotel.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh43.jpg
The Midwest Coaster Club liked the area set up for the mixmaster show and liked to shop at all the stalls.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh44.jpg
Inside Buccaneer Harbour floating down the lazy river for the first time it was fun to see all the things I had planned about 5 months ago actually worked perfectly. Yes this was the first time I ever tested it from a peeps point of view.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh45.jpg
The themed exit form the tunnel under the dual water fall.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh46.jpg
Our new sign arrived.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh47.jpg

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh49.jpg
This building took on a life of its own. Months ago the plan was to just have a control room for the laser show but later on it seemed that is not how Fox Amusements would handle it so the plan was revised to have the park information offices and some administration in the building as well as a full snack bar with an observation deck.

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bh48.jpg

Buccaneer Harbour was a great success because it makes money for the park chain. In fact compared to what I expected it makes a lot of money. The park makes almost as much as a theme park so as a year round indoor resort it would be a great addition.


I think I may have Buccaneer Harbour up for download later today. After testing I will for sure have two versions up and maybe even three. The hotel has a lot of scenery on it resulting in some performance hits that might be too much for less powerful computers so I saved a version without the hotel on a smaller map. If I do a third version it will be just Buccaneer Harbour and not even have the laser show grounds.

I think while closed anyone can open the file and look around the park but if you wanted to actually play the park you might want to consider one of the smaller versions if you have a less powerful PC.

More shots later!

[Phil]

Wicked! I love the logo. Brilliant work :) :up:

[W1ckeD]

WOUW YEAH!
Super i can't wait! I hope for a download :D
This is so nice... You are my favorite park builder! :cool:

[coasterdude89]

Amazing.

[KiDFoX]

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/bh/bhmap.jpg
Here is an overview of the entire map for Buccaneer Harbor. 1/4 of this map is easily under a roof. Correct me if I am wrong but this may be the first full size indoor park of any type on the forums and likely the largest structures anyone has ever done in RCT3. I first posted this thread back in November of 2005 but I started the water park in August. I didn't post any screens of this park until the hotel was complete. Special thanks to all the scenery creators because I think I used something form almost everyone for either this park or Miller's Hollow or both and thanks to Jonwil for fixing some of the scenery for Wild so that I could finish these parks and get them ready for download. Also a note of thanks to Larry241 for some help proofing the logo for Buccaneer Harbour.


Before downloading check the list below for all RCT3 Expansions and custom scenery necessary for Buccaneer Harbour and Miller's Hollow.

Needed for Miller’s Hollow and Buccaneer Harbour:

RCT3 Soaked!
RCT3 Wild!

Custom Scenery:
Shyguy’s mainstreet pack.
Klinn’s Electroshock set
Klinn’s Frameworks
Pumper’s Steelworks
Pumper’s Darkride set
Pumper’s Blox
Marnetmar’s Letftovers
iceatcs Timberframe set
iceatcs Slide Supports
iceatcs Brand Name logos
Battor77 speakers pack
Stuk71 hanger51
Lulujarre America pack
Lulujarre Rockn Rollercoaster pack

Each version will have the JPG for the park sign in the zip you can add this image to your Wild Billboard folder if you want to use the sign.


Buccaneer Harbour Version 3 Water Park Only (http://www.kidfox.net/public/kfbh3.zip)
This file contains a version with just Buccaneer Harbour Indoor water park. The Trails West Hotel and the Laser show grounds have been removed and the map shrunk to 80X70 to improve performance for slower PCs.

Buccaneer Harbour Version 2 Water Park and Laser Show grounds (http://www.kidfox.net/public/KFBH2.zip)
This version contains the the indoor water park and the Laser Show grounds with information building. There is no mixmaster show with this file. First off I am not good at mixmaster shows and secondly the amount of scenery on Buccaneer Harbor plus a complex mismaster show would kill FPS at night.

Buccaneer Harbour Version Water Park, Trails West Hotel and Laser Show grounds (http://www.kidfox.net/public/BH.zip)
This is the full park file with everything in it. It runs very well for me with the park closed and I can run it comfortably with up to 2000 peeps in the park but slower machines might have a challenge running it open since as you can see from the map above it is very scenery intensive. There is very small mixmaster show in this file. It is not a complete show it is just an opening that lasts a few seconds. I will eventually get a longer show but since I am not very good or very fast at mixmaster show I didn't want to wait to complete that to put the files online.

[W1ckeD]

wouw! :eek: :eek: :eek:
I love the water park! :D
Can't wait for Miller’s Hollow!

[Phil]

Wicked I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOO downloading!

[Justin556]

Ok Nice I Did The Water Park I Cant Wait For Park Download Great Work

[KiDFoX]

Depending on which one you downloaded I might have had both the .dat and .bak file with a .jpg image file. The .dat file is the park file just put it in your C:\My Documents\RCT\Parks folder. You really don't need the .bak file but it can go in the parks folder as well if you want, it is just a backup of the .dat file.

You can put the jpg in hyour RCT/billboards folder so you can set the sign on the park. That is really all there is to it. .dat file in the Parks folder, .jpg in billboards.

[Justin556]

Kidfox Is The Park Ready For Dwonload Yet I Am Now Ready For Park Download

[live_the_thrill]

Kidfox Is The Park Ready For Dwonload Yet I Am Now Ready For Park Download

Is that all you say? Most of your posts ask if you can download the park now, and is it ready yet! There is a quick answer to your repetitive questions:

When the park is ready to download the creator will tell us, just like they do with all their other parks.

Will you give it a rest please?

Anyways, Kidfox I am a big fan of your work, so of coarse I had to download this! Even though it ran fine on my laptop, there were times when it slowed down, apart from this I loved looking around it. I loved scrolling though the Harbour, nice attention to detail.

[KiDFoX]

http://www.kidfox.net/fai/images/mh/map2.jpg
I will try to get better angles on these images so I can do a better combined map but this gives an idea of how these two parks fit together.

Justin556: Miller's Hollow "should" be ready this weekend. There are small things left to do and I just won't have time until possibly Friday to get to them. It is basically done just a few small details I want finished before I put it online like having the on ride photo both displaying pictures of peeps on that ride.

I have come this far trying to nit pick every detail I can remember so I don't want to short change it at the end.

live_the_thrill: I think it is just the amount of scenery in the park that slows it down at times and it depends on which angle the camera is at. If you downloaded the full park then even more so with the hotel it even lags my computer some. I thought it was an acceptable amount of lag though for the effect.


OK so fair warning on Miller's Hollow. The park is huge and full of scenery and as much as I love it I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't hard t run on a lot of computers. I can do pretty well with it when it is empty which if you just want to look around is probably the way to go. Now my computer runs that park with darn near 3000 peeps in it but it is slow. I get 15fps empty on the perimeter of the park and about 10 on the center empty with 3000 peeps we are talking 1 to 5pfs at best on this computer. That is one of the reasons I am going to do a lot of smaller projects for awhile, I would like more people to be able to enjoy them.

I love the full blown parks that is why I make them but I know not everyone can run them.

[KiDFoX]

Well I think I have this park as far as I am going to try to take it for now. I have no idea what to tell you to expect with this one there is so much in it and a lot of custom scenery, please check the list earlier in this thread.

As a result you may, and likely will, experience degrees of lag from moderate to Oh My God! So you have been warned. On my system it is very nasty when looking at the center of the park but not bad at all on the edges. Also on my system it ran significantly better in sandbox than it did building it in scenario editor. I ran the park with over 3000 peeps in it and it only crashed once but that was due to my sound card drivers not the park.

The experiment I am trying is placing all the jpgs for the billboards in a folder in the parks file. I made a folder called millers and I put all the billboard images in there. If you download the park unzip the park file and the millers folder into your parks folder. When you open the park hopefully all the billboards will be working.

This is the LAST huge mega park I am doing for some time.

Please check out my scenarios if you hate me because my parks never run on your computer and look for some mini parks and small projects for the next few months. I have a new big park in planning but there is no way I am starting that for a few months I want to do some smaller things and scenarios for awhile.

Just hit me if this park crashes or doesn't work.

I need a vacation....


KiDFoX's Miller's Hollow (http://www.kidfox.net/public/kfmh.zip)

My Scenarios (http://ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498397)

[Magnum]

Hi there, KiDFoX...

I have downloaded most of your parks (Buccaneer Harbour, Shoreview, Surf City, Expedition Pointe and a few more). They tend to be a bit laggy, but I think they are still well worth to download (some of my own parks can be a bit slow too...). Quality work is always appreciated, and KiDFoX is a trademark for Grade A Quality.

I'm really looking forward to your Scenario Pack...