Six Flags Looking to Sell Magic Mountain

[Zonga]

It was just announced that Six Flags is looking to sell Magic Mountain, Elitch Gardens, Darien Lake, Wild Waves and Enchanted Village, Waterworld in Concord, and Slashdown in Houston. Six Flags has been looking to sell of some parks but know they've put six parks up for sale. So who do you guys think Magic Mountain will go to? With Cedar Fair owning Knott's and Great America, I don't think they'd buy Magic Mountain, but hey, anything is possible. Check out the full storyHERE (http://www.marke****ch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?dist=newsfinder&siteid=google&guid=%7B13A48EAC-425C-4608-9488-6B46F68DD184%7D&keyword=/)

[KiDFoX]

"As the company's largest stockholder, we strongly believe that any asset liquidations (such as the disposition of one or more parks or excess real estate) … without stockholder approval while stockholders are being asked to consider a change in directors and management would impermissibly frustrate the stockholder franchise.”

-Dan Snyder


Further properties will also be sold. The writing is on the wall for Six Flags they have to downsize if there is to be any hope of righting the sinking ship.

Funny how so many on the parks forum are taken in by the idea of Six Flags as the “largest theme park operator” and miss all the sheer stupidity of this company that continues to this day. My personal opinion is that shareholders would have gotten more value out of this sale had it been allowed to go ahead as the previous CEO and board had wanted it to, thank you Dan for costing the shareholders money for the sake of your ego.

It seems that I find new reasons to be glad I never put any money into this disaster almost daily.

The time may be right to invest at some point but I am not convinced it is now.

[-NGS-]

Magic Mountain? What a shame. :downcast: So many good rides. Not too good of theming, but good coasters indeed. I doubt Cedar Fair will purchase both Six Flags and Paramount parks in less than 4 months, but hey, it could be a huge expansion plan.

[Zonga]

Yeah, I just can't think you could possibly want Magic Mountain.

[Alpengeist]

Wow, I can't believe it took 2 replies until someone mentioned Cedar Fair.:haha: :p

[-NGS-]

Actually, it took one...

[Alpengeist]

Yea, I just noticed that.:haha:

[TopxXThrill]

So.. I know this sounds very stupid, ..but are the rides gonna get new names?

[Alpengeist]

^Hard to say, since the selling of the parks are only being discussed and nothing is final yet.;)

[Zonga]

Magic Mountain seems like it could be a Cedar Fair park, with all the coasters and such. However with Knott's just an hour a way, it seems like overkill. But then again, Cedar Fair owns all those parks in Ohio, so we may see that in California.

[soundgodz]

One one hand, I can't imagine Six Flags selling their one part that operates all year long, albet only weekends much of the time, and is one of their main parks in their largest market. Plus, after spending how many millions this season on Tatsu alone makes no sense to sell the park. Maybe some of the other parks make sense to go, but not Magic Mountain. Would Cedar Fair pick up MM? I couldn't even guess. It is a good 70 minute ride down I-5 between the parks, and they might synergize each other. Knott's does have several water parks in SoCal. What if Six Flags finds no buyer? Do they just up and close MM? This gives more questions than answers.

[KiDFoX]

The problem is they have loans that are coming due and no money. Revenue is already down from last year so they have to sell off some of the inventory to repay creditors if they cannot restructure the debt and good luck doing then when people see their ugly balance sheet.

I think their mid-quarter call today is going to be interesting...

I keep coming back and editing this... not long ago I posted that I thought Six Flags (NYSE SIX) would dip to $4 per share by end of the quarter. Keep your eye on it see how sly this fox is. No that would not be a signal to buy unless you have some money to risk with the emphisis on RISK.

[Harpo]

Doubtful that Cedar Fair would be in a position to buy any more parks right now, unless they were sold at remarkably cheap prices.

I saw one article that indicated dismantling rides and moving them, then selling one or more of the parks to developers is a distinct possibility. That'd be too bad, but Six Flags is in terrible financial trouble -- they just might have to send more parks the way of Astroworld.

[gigafreak30]

magic mountain is their flagship park, i wonder why that one is on the list?
it'd be like saying 'okay, kill me'

edit: but I do see that park with lots of potental to become a resort...

[khmaster]

Maby Disney could buy it. Maybe they could have their first " Thrill Park ".

After all Disney's theme is Magic.

[Alpengeist]

magic mountain is their flagship park, i wonder why that one is on the list?
it'd be like saying 'okay, kill me'

edit: but I do see that park with lots of potental to become a resort...

I don't want to start a debate, but I don't consider SFMM their flagship park. After all, they are discussing selling it and according to Shapiro it doesn't fit into the family park image.;) ....and I see SF Great Adventure with a lot more potential to become a resort than SFMM, since a hotel is already in the works or at least being talked about.;)

[okinawaboy11]

You shouldn't name it "Six Flags to Sell Magic Mountain, Seriously" because it isn't serious.

It's NOT official yet.

There is a lot more reliability over at TPR, go read there thread about it. If any of those Six Flags Parks are sold, SFMM will be the LAST one on that list.

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26124

[aennilQ]

It doesnt really make sense to me- selling the park that they have poured the most coasters and money into? i can see them selling all those other non-six flags named parks, and stuff, but their main park, the one that competes with Cedar Point, the one that holds all the records, the one that makes Six Flags the biggest in America? Whatever. maybe now they can put some money into the parks that need work, instead of just installing new coasters at already popular parks. El Toro- Was that at all necessary? Tatsu? No way.

[Harpo]

You shouldn't name it "Six Flags to Sell Magic Mountain, Seriously" because it isn't serious.


Well, when the quarterly report of the company says that they're investigating selling six parks, including Magic Mountain, I'd consider it pretty serious!

The news report from the quarterly meeting said:
"Meanwhile, the company said it is exploring strategic options for six of its weaker properties, including selling or closing them."

No, it's not official that the park will be sold, but it looks like selling it or closing it is the current intent.

[soundgodz]

Closing MM doesn't make sense. It's still the SF park that gets the most press and TV time. I don't see any of the usual players wanting MM, although the name Busch just popped into my mind. If anything I see Cedar Fair trying to bid down the price of MM to the point where it's possible. Would a foreign operator want to buy MM and who would they be? Tussauds? Anyone else probably couldn't handle it. Is MM really one of the weaker properties? Hey Dan, as a Skins fan, I'd accept you spending $8million less on the team if you pumped a little cash in. Hey Bill, got some spare change for the operating fund? I know you both can spare it. Maybe you could cut a deal with Edgar Bronfman Jr. I just love staring at the great unknown.
IF it hits $4, I'll scoop up 200 shares, maybe even 300.

[Alpengeist]

El Toro- Was that at all necessary? Tatsu? No way.
Yes it was, El Toro was one of the only good things the old management did.:p

[fathorse]

But is a lot of the press and TV time about MM always that good? Most of the stories I hear are about how gangs rove the park, they have trouble with security and ride operations, and just generally how crappy it is. It is one of their parks that needs a lot of turnaround.

[soundgodz]

I am refering to Travel, Discovery, National Geographic, History, etc shows that run over and over on cable, almost always visiting MM. What you're talking about is mostly local news that most travelers don't hear until too late. I was there last June, as well as Knott's. Because Knott's was swarmed with school kids the day we went, it was actually less enjoyable than MM was 4 days earlier. Ride maintainance at MM wasn't much of an issue other than Superman and Deja Vu being down and Flashback closed for the waterpark. But Superman did open late on our second full day, though the wife didn't want to climb back up Samuri Summit from Gotham City. Knott's on the other hand wasn't able to control line jumping on Silver Bullet, had Ghostrider go down for an hour, and Xcelorator not open until 2 PM while the park was running at 70% capacity. Everyone has a bad day.

[ZoomRocks]

NOT MAGIC MOUNTAIN!!!!! heard on the fox 11 morning news in la that if somenoe does buy it it will be turned into houses and there is all ready to much traffic in the san franado valley (cant spell).

[Zonga]

Yep, we all know that the one thing the Valencia/Santa Clarita Area needs more of are tract housing. (Said sarcastically)

[ZoomRocks]

I dont even live other there but I go to Magic Mountain Every Summer and There is alway traffic and also what about the wild teens in the park that one reason, and this is of topic, A big crow just hit my room window!!

[KiDFoX]

It makes perfect sense if you understand this business and the former management of Six Flags did not understand and that is where all these coaters you all keep mentioning came form not from Shapiro and not from Dan Snyder.

I don't like Dan Snyder or how he took over the company but Shapiro has the right idea for Six Flags even if he admitted accidentally today that he was a moron going in since he said he didn’t know how bad the brand was damaged. A hell of a lot of us did know, why do you think my money is with Disney and Cedar Fair and NOT Six Flags?

Like it or not Six Flags is a business and its focus on bigger, faster, taller is not necessarily where the money is at. I am betting that is not what is going up at Cedar Point right now either although if I had any real info I wouldn't share it anyhow as to just what that is out there. Like it or not Shapiro is spot on that the problem right now for Six Flags is families are taking their entertainment money elsewhere in the markets they are in.

Magic Mountain is not family friendly and that is the new direction for Six Flags. Someone here makes my point for me they went to Knott's and had a better time at MM because all the kids were at Knott's. Kids drive the business more than teens and adults that is just how it is, kids bring parents and family that is why Cedar Fair lowered kid and senior pricing and lowered some concession prices to make the parks more affordable for families.

Families are where the dollars are in this business. Disney is successful in the theme park industry without world record coasters. Why is that if coasters are what drives it? Simply put Disney has the right formula Six Flags did not and I am not a big Disney fan other than from a business standpoint and one as an artist who admires their theming ability wich is second to none.

It makes perfect sense if you understand this business and the former management of Six Flags did not understand and that is where all these coaters you all keep mentioning came form not from Shapiro and not from Dan Snyder.

I don't like Dan Snyder or how he took over the company but Shapiro has the right idea for Six Flags even if he admitted accidentally today that he was a moron going in since he said he didn’t know how bad the brand was damaged. A hell of a lot of us did know, why do you think my money is with Disney and Cedar Fair and NOT Six Flags?

Like it or not Six Flags is a business and its focus on bigger, faster, taller is not necessarily where the money is at. I am betting that is not what is going up at Cedar Point right now either although if I had any real info I wouldn't share it anyhow as to just what that is out there. Like it or not Shapiro is spot on that the problem right now for Six Flags is families are taking their entertainment money elsewhere in the markets they are in.

Magic Mountain is not family friendly and that is the new direction for Six Flags. Someone here makes my point for me they went to Knott's and had a better time at MM because all the kids were at Knott's. Kids drive the business more than teens and adults that is just how it is, kids bring parents and family that is why Cedar Fair lowered kid and senior pricing and lowered some concession prices to make the parks more affordable for families.

Families are where the dollars are in this business. Disney is successful in the theme park industry without world record coasters.

Now as to reliable information about the sale of properties, if Mark Shapiro says MM is for sale, it is for sale whether some website says it isn't or not. I don't get my information from websites where people pretend to be experts.

I said the SIX stocks were about to hit $4 and close today it was at $5.55. I don't know that by reading blogs I know that because I know something about this business or I wouldn't have any money invested in it. Ultimately they may not sell MM but it is open for consideration and I would think very serious consideration considering the debt situation and the need to repair all the damage that has been done to Six Flags.

[fathorse]

Magic Mountain could be family friendly. But you don't make a chain family friendly during a continuing recession and a gas crisis by cranking up all your prices and nickel-and-diming people to death once inside the park.

[soundgodz]

KidFox, actually, my point was that Knott's was over run with teens the day I was there, worse than MM was on Thursday and Friday the week before. This was a day that started in our room at the Grand Californian and ended in Disneyland after Remember. Yes, Six Flags is moving in a family friendly direction, but they are still branded as thrill parks, Mr. Six or not. I just think there's a way that Six Flags can turn things around at MM. It makes no sense to loose your company's crown jewel just because it's tarnished.

[KiDFoX]

Let me tell you honestly what their brand is known as right now and believe me the new management knows it now even if they should have before and didn't.

Six Flags brand is known for dirty parks that are poorly maintained, known for short staff that is horribly trained an not friendly, known for problems with rowdy teens and disorderly conduct and known as an over all bad experience by patrons.

That brand image has to be changed, cutting prices on season passes so teens who are the problem in the parks come in more often and loiter, don't spend money was a monumentally stupid move by the previous management and compounded an already existing perception of Six Flags as a sub standard park experience.

Keep in mind Shapiro came over from a Disney company. Selling MM form a business stand point makes perfect sense under the right conditions and most of them exist at Six Flags right now.

Having teens in the park is not all bad if they are spending money and not causing problems that drive young families away. Generally there are fewer bad experiences at a Cedar Fair park, that has been the case for several years and with the problems still afflicting Geauga Lake Mark Shapiro saying the brand was damaged more then they could have known seems very odd. How could they not know?

[FlyingPenguins]

Closing down many of the Six Flags parks will not help. According to this site (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/money/9415831/detail.html?rss=den&psp=money), Elitch Gardens, Darien Lake, WaterWorld, Wild Waves and Enchanted Village, Splashtown, and/or Magic Mountain/Hurricane Harbor may be closed down. Doing that will not boost profits. I agree that a good company should buy SF; maybe Disney, Cedar Fair, or the Tussauds Group?

[soundgodz]

"The pilot has turned on the seat belt sign. We request that all passengers please return to your seats at this time and starp down. It's going to be a bumpy ride." But I've never been on a rough flight, that didn't land safely after all, even if it was a little late, or landed at the wrong airport.

[immeldude]

why on earth would they sell it??????????

[soundgodz]

The same reason my friend Tony is always pawning his guitar. They need cash, bad.

[immeldude]

The same reason my friend Tony is always pawning his guitar. They need cash, bad.
wow you would think a park of that stature would have enough money to support themselves.

[Zonga]

wow you would think a park of that stature would have enough money to support themselves.

I don't think it's Magic Mountian that can't make any money, it's the Six Flags Company that can't. What Magic Mountain needs is an owner that cares and wants to spend money to make the park better. Magic Mountian needs to get rid of a couple of coasters and add shows, etc. They've had a good run with their record for the most coasters, but it's time to put that aside. Flashback and Pysclone are two coasters that are completely unnessary.

Maybe if Busch took over, Magic Mountain could get some THEMED attractions like DarKastle. Maybe a new owner would actually replace Metro and make it so you don't have to walk for hours trying to find a ride that isn't broken.

A major problem Six Flags is having is they don't know how to price their product. By charging more money it doesn't exactly want families to come. Six Flags raised their season passes by what, ten dollars? That much money doesn't really discouarge teenagers.

Mark Shapiro and the whole manangement doesn't seem to be helping the cause. You shouldn't come out and say our parks are full of rowdy teenagers then tell families they should come to our parks. Families are always going to go to Disney, that is just how it is. Six Flags can't expect to get the loyalty of families after four months. People go to Disney because they've been there for 50 years and they have a great product. Why would people go to a park that has a bad reputation when they can just go to Disneyland. By adding characters and opening stupid little Kiddie Lands you don't attract lots of families.

If Six Flags wants to attract families they need to completely rethink their parks. You need to have more than one area for little kids. Look at Disney, practically every land has kiddie rides and thrill rides. It would cost a huge amount of money and take a lot of time to make Six Flags parks family friendly. Six Flags will need to spend some time really thinking about what they want the chain to be like in 30 years. Maybe it would be good for Six Flags to sell Magic Mountain and really focus on other parks. But that would be the easy way out.

Now that's a big post!

[hotroddude]

zonga i both agree and dissagree with your post, first off i think magic mountain is a great park and with all the rides i dont think it can be taken better care of than what its getting allready, flashback has no point to it anymore phsyclone still runs so theres a point to it, yes people say its a bumpy ride i didnt think it was the thing that pissed me off was the screeching on the turns, though dejavu is a peice of **** and never shoulda been put their in the first place freefall doesnt need to be their anymore either.

not all amusement parks need to be heavily themed i for one am glad six flags doesnt spend their money on stupid peices of cardboard and robots like disney does. i would LOVE seeing metro and orient express working i absolutally HATE having to walk up the hill just to see that superman is broken down. goliath is kinda themed i guess it doesnt matter to me but if you think about it theres the big go l iath thing in the begining of the line and random rocks and stuff through out the lines. scream on the otherhand is parking lot themed lol. tatsu was supposed to be built in a bunch of trees and stuff i was dissapointed how plain it was when i rode it :(

agread, both six flags AND disney have very high prices while knotts ( dont know about other cedar fair parks ) have what like $20 child tickets thats a great deal hell i allways tought all park tickets were like 50 bucks till i went to knotts a few years ago ( ive allways been stuck in chicago so ive only been to disney world and great america till i turned 11 ) i was like wow knotts is cheap....but i guess higher prices will help their financial issues.

if six flags goes family style i will have to shoot somebody, i hate disney they dont have ONE ride i look forward to going on, my 6 year old brother doesnt even like it there anymore! but its there for people with young kids.....young kids six flags goes for teenage style parks, yes they do have kiddie areas, you dont see disney with teenage areas do you? lol six flags need to stay that way. i dont think magic mountain has a bad reputation at all...what is it over 50 rides?...thats a great reputation, not bad, yes they dont have all the rides working but id way rather drive an extra hour or so to go to magic mountain instead of disney land.

i dont think its six flags' purpouse to get families to the parks. if they wanted to im sure their parks would suck just as much as disney heh im not completely against disney ok i just dont like their rides so dont start complaining about how i keep saying bad stuff about their parks. i hope they keep magic mountain i love it their so much and they just spent all that money building tatsu why sell it? i think it would be a horrible idea to sell it, isnt magic mountain like six flags' " main " park like most of their money goes to it, sort of like how cedar fair seems to favor cedar point. well thats just how i feel about all this.

-hotroddude

[okinawaboy11]

I thought Magic Mountain had like 2 family sections? Is that NOT enough? SFA only has one, *tiny* family section. You don't see that being on the to go list.

[immeldude]

MM is one of their best parks,if they wnat to sell it the whole six flags company must not be doing so well

[Zonga]

Well, I'm not saying they should become like Disney, because they'll never even come close. What I'm saying is that to attract more families they need to diversify the park. The Kiddie Lands they put in are always pathetic. Magic Mountain needs themed rides. Not just a rollercoaster that goes through trees. I'm saying they need a ride like DarKastle, Spiderman, whatever. Something that appeals to everyone, not just thrill seekers. Magic Mountain will never be able to improve if they don't start putting in more time and money into themed rides. If you don't like rollercoasters, then you don't go to Magic Mountain, and that by itself loses many customers.

[hotroddude]

^ true but what if you like rollercoasters? you dont go to disney you go to a six flags park or cedar fair whatever theres just more six flags' around. and thats whats making disney lose many customers ( well not really its allways a zoo when i go ) but still...i agree with you im just saying six flags is great the way it is we need parks that arent all kiddie fantasy, hippy robot friendly if you get what im saying. i think its smarter to spend money on big themeless rollercoasters that are like HOLY S*** kind of a fun instead of a bunch of money on highley themed rides that are like LET ME OFF kind of a boring. i think selling magic mountain will only make six flags worse besides i couldnt live in a disney land and knotts only state id have to run away to ohio and i like it here in california....but still i get what your saying i just think its great the way it is and im into big rollercoasters so id hate seeing it being sold to anybody except cedar fair, they know what they're doing. but i think they'll come to their sences and keep it.

[Coasterfreak000]

I REALLY hope SF Elitch Gardens doesnt get torn down. Then I will have nowhere to go during the summer........But I dont think anyone will buy it.

[Z@X]

If disney bought it....lol. They would make it family freindly and would take down all the intense rides and replace them with kiddie rides.

[Zonga]

Yeah, there's no chance Disney would even look toward Valencia. Unless, they want to rip down Magic Mountain and make an imagineering testing groud or something. Busch or Cedar Fair might take a look though. However, if Six Flags does sell Magic Mountain, I have a fealing it might go to the realestate buisness.

[KingdaKa1]

Cedar Fair would take good care of SFMM. If somehow, no one buys MM (which I strongly doubt will happen), and they have to close the park, there would be pleny rides to go around. ( I can imagine Goliath right now, riding through the woods back behind SFGADV!

I am probably wrong, but I don't think Eltich Gardens gets that much buisness anyway. I believe the last coaster they built has Halfpipe. Not really a thrill seekers paradise (then again, I've never been there or have any plans on it!

[RollerC]

Don't count on Cedar Fair to purchase anything in terms of parks for a few years(more like 10...20...30...). I laugh at Six Flags for this. It's their fault. All's they care is putting in the biggest and baddest clone into one of their parks.

[hotroddude]

^ well yeah putting the biggest baddest ride is usually what gets more people to go to their parks. how you say their rides are " clones " is beyond me. the only clone i know of is deja vu. oh wait i forgot how tatsu is a ripoff of the matterhorn, look theres X sure does look alot like steel dragon! :haha: can you explain the clone thing for me im sure you have a point to it but i dont see any six flags clones.

[Alpengeist]

^...don't forget the Batman and Superman-Ultimate Flight clones.;) ...but you're right, they tend to exaggerate a bit with the cloning.:rolleyes:

[okinawaboy11]

Cedar Fair would take good care of SFMM. If somehow, no one buys MM (which I strongly doubt will happen), and they have to close the park, there would be pleny rides to go around. ( I can imagine Goliath right now, riding through the woods back behind SFGADV!

I am probably wrong, but I don't think Eltich Gardens gets that much buisness anyway. I believe the last coaster they built has Halfpipe. Not really a thrill seekers paradise (then again, I've never been there or have any plans on it!

If the park was closed, I would only hope Riddlers Revenge would go to SFA. We badly need some diversity in this park. Such as, something custom. I don't think Tatsu would be able to be moved though, because it's a terrain coaster. And well, There is really no other park in America, or the world for that matter that has Terrain that could match SFMM. Close, but still no cigar.

[hotroddude]

yeah your right Alpengeist but they are great rides ( though batman tends to kill my back with the never ending turns and geforces sucking me into the seat ) they're just trying to be nice so everyone can ride it, its not like they allready ran out of ideas :p oh i think theres more than one superman ride of steel too forgive me if im wrong, but at least they're cloning their own rides instead of some parks ive seen mainly in japan that are have like exact clones of rides in america who knows who cloned what but still. oh and theres the disney land clone nara dreamland but thats off topic right now....

[RollerC]

^ well yeah putting the biggest baddest ride is usually what gets more people to go to their parks. how you say their rides are " clones " is beyond me. the only clone i know of is deja vu. oh wait i forgot how tatsu is a ripoff of the matterhorn, look theres X sure does look alot like steel dragon! :haha: can you explain the clone thing for me im sure you have a point to it but i dont see any six flags clones.

Adding the "biggest and baddest" ride isnt always the case. Remember Six Flags Worlds of Adventures? Oh wait, lets add one small hill and 5 feet to a ride and call it unique. Are you sure you don't know bout the clones? Cause there is Deja'Vu as ou stated; then there's Batman: The Rides and Medusa/Scream.

[hotroddude]

yeah i forgot about all those others. but there really isnt many of them its not that theyre all the same parks just in different locations. its nice having a few rides that are the same like when i moved from chicago i missed batman till i went up a few like four hours to magic mountain i thought it was cool they had it there too. yeah i get it now but their really isnt that many clones out there but i dont think the clone-ing of their own rides is such a bad idea but everyone has their own opinions.

[Alpengeist]

....wait there's more, how about the SLC coasters and the junior coasters, like Blackbeard and Poison Ivy.;)

To tell you the truth, I don't mind the clones unless it's a SLC.;)

[raptorrvnge4928]

Gosh guys, you forget about the Vekoma Boomerang clones?

[hotroddude]

how could we forgot vekoma? unless if we just recently rode one and got brain damage....i dont think ive been to any six flags parks with vekoma rides so the only vekoma's ive ridden are the boomerang at knotts and all the ones at disney parks. but arrow is still bad X was nice untill the second time i rode it my head was banging around so bad uhg its like a bad memory i cant get rid of lol i think sfmm's ninja is the smoothest arrow coaster ive ridden and thats still pretty rough. i seem to be drifting off topic lately so i'll stop here.

[Xtreme_Gz]

Converting Six Flags from a Teenage Paradise into a Family park is like trying to get a corpse to raise from the dead...I mean seriously its Ridiculous and Impossible. Six flags Magic Mountain is made for Teenagers and should stay that way...if adults with kids still have the teenage spirit inside them then they have a place to have there kids hang out...plus its a good starting point for future thrill seekers...U dont expect a 3 year old to ride Revolution for his first ride...NO thats why Bugs Bunny world is there.

Handing the fate of the Six Flags park to some ******* like Mark Shapiro was the worst move the company could have ever done.

Actually I really like to see MM put gentle rides around the park...Im serious What I wanted to do while I was waiting for a ride to go home (I work there :/ lol) is go on a ride that does'nt have you screaming your head off...Just a 15 min. relaxing ride through the park or a themed area. I highly doubt that they will make anything such as that but if they were to open the Metro I would ride that until it was time for me to go home instead of go on Revolution 20 times until I felt sick (seriously I did that the day was'nt that busy and there were empty seats so I just sat in any one...that was'nt taken of course of Course I was off and b4 I had a job there.)

[IEATPASTE001]

Magic Mountain? What a shame. :downcast: So many good rides. Not too good of theming, but good coasters indeed. I doubt Cedar Fair will purchase both Six Flags and Paramount parks in less than 4 months, but hey, it could be a huge expansion plan.


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[soundgodz]

Monopoly, it's not just a game.
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