Top Thrill Dragster [Archive]

Darth Gilbert

07-01-2006, 04:52 PM

Parts of it were starting to fall off, so they were completely removed. I didn't ride it until 2004, after the stuff was taken off, so it looks funny to me to look at pictures of it with the wheels and spoiler still on.

SnooSnoo

07-01-2006, 06:25 PM

^ Exactly

I got to ride it in all 3 forms...

03 - Engine and Fins
04 - Nothing, just 2 riders in the last car
05,06 - 4 riders in the last car

Small Print

07-01-2006, 07:22 PM

Any major difference in the feel of the ride? Any faster or more forceful?

soundgodz

07-02-2006, 01:17 AM

I'd never know. My first trip to Cedar Point was in 2003 and Dragster was down all the time I was there. Didn't return until this month, so, no decoration for me.

SnooSnoo

07-02-2006, 02:19 AM

Any major difference in the feel of the ride? Any faster or more forceful?

Not really, I mean, no matter what, your going to go 120mph, so speed wouldn't really go +/- alot.... Forceful: a little more now then then, a little rougher too.

uru94Rct

07-13-2006, 07:25 AM

2 more people per load I think

LotsOfLayne

07-14-2006, 04:36 PM

i just realized that Kingda Ka trains have over the shoulder restraints and dragster trains don't

fathorse

07-14-2006, 05:56 PM

That's why Dragster is better.

SnooSnoo

07-14-2006, 06:16 PM

Alot of people would disagree with you fathorse. Airtime isn't a big issue on these rides, so I don't know why alot of people are like "OMG, the OTSR's blow TTD's T-bar away!!".... Stupid People.

okinawaboy11

07-14-2006, 06:55 PM

^ Yeah, the restraints found on Storm Runner and KK take away NO airtime. You shoulders don't even touch the OTSR part. So basically, it's like your in a lap bar. but really not. lol. You just have to ride it to tell the difference.

KingdaKa1

07-14-2006, 07:31 PM

The only pain in the neck about OTSRs are that u could staple yourself in and u become VERY uncomfortable. That was my ride on Storm Runner. Pulled down restraint to far, and it hurt.

Still, Storm Runner and KK r great rides. Was dissapointed with Storm Runner first time, but it got better the 2nd time.

BTW: For those who rode TTD, best station music, its on my ipod!

soundgodz

07-15-2006, 04:50 PM

KingdaKa, I'm surprised you didn't like your first ride on Stormrunner, but I remember my first ride on Magnum was unenjoyable becaus eI was worried my glasses would fly off because my strap was loose. Did you get a chance to ride in the last row? There's one hell of a whip as you get pulled over the top hat.

JohncJ

07-16-2006, 04:41 AM

They're barely OTSRs anyway, more just lap bars with extra straps. They can go down very tight though, and on Stealth (Thorpe Park) they always push the bar right in to you after you've made sure it's nice and loose. Completely unnecessary really. On a related note, has anyone been on a Fabbri drop tower and only pulled the restraint down 3 clicks? i n t e n s e.

coolgamer512

07-29-2006, 01:12 AM

2 more people per load I think
That's it

Petmaster

07-29-2006, 12:36 PM

the only reason for OTSR are so that if someone were to wiggle through, they wouldnt fall out, which i feel is never going to happen!

Soulfire

07-29-2006, 01:27 PM

SnooSnoo

07-29-2006, 07:18 PM

^ Uh.. no

Harpo

07-31-2006, 10:56 AM

Actually, the real reason is that the parts were coming loose, posing a potential safety hazard.

I was there one day when I was watching maintenance wiggle one of the "engines." He was clearly showing management that there was an issue with it coming loose. From what I could tell, he was instructed to tighten it, which he did, but I believe such things led to the eventual removal of those theming elements.

IEATPASTE001

08-01-2006, 07:07 PM

It's probably been said, but yeah, it essence there was too much weight. The trains were rolling back quite frequently and the machines that run Top Thrill Dragster simply couldn't get them going up fast enough with all of the decorations on.

Ah well...

Where do you get your "inside" information? Cause you should fire that person on the spot. One of the mock wheels came off on the brakerun side of the coaster and the tire hit a building near Iron Dragon. That is why they took the themeing off of the back end of the trains.

Soulfire

08-03-2006, 02:22 PM

Where do you get your "inside" information? Cause you should fire that person on the spot. One of the mock wheels came off on the brakerun side of the coaster and the tire hit a building near Iron Dragon. That is why they took the themeing off of the back end of the trains.
What the hell are you talking about? There's no inside information... common sense probably told Cedar Point that in the combination of two things happening, the decorations needed to go.

1) Yeah, they came apart - and could've done a lot more damage then they did.

2) Since the trains were rolling back so frequently, it would only make sense to remove the extra weight in the back.

people suck :grrrrr:

lakeccrunner

08-03-2006, 04:21 PM

^ I'm nont trying to be mean byt saying this I'm stating a fact...The computer calculates the weight of the train and what speed to send it to get it over without a rollback, and the more weight the better, it can send it at a lower speed and it gains more momentum making it harder to stop so the more weight the better, I know it got more rollbacks its first year than any but that was because it was its first year and they had to work out all of the kinks, well they tried to but its obvious they havent yet, but you were right in saying that parts were falling off.

ytivarg

08-05-2006, 01:51 PM

^ I'm nont trying to be mean byt saying this I'm stating a fact...The computer calculates the weight of the train and what speed to send it to get it over without a rollback

WRONG.

TTD does not weigh the trains.

lakeccrunner

08-05-2006, 03:36 PM

^ Sorry I thought it did for some reason, I might have been thinking of something else. But the computer does set the speed to launch it out at so it will make it over...well most of the time...

Alot of people would disagree with you fathorse. Airtime isn't a big issue on these rides, so I don't know why alot of people are like "OMG, the OTSR's blow TTD's T-bar away!!".... Stupid People.

^ What? who would want to have OTSR's rather than just a lap bar on a ride that dosnt even go udpside down?!?! The people who say that must be really big Great Adventure Fanboys because I cant think of one non-inversion coaster where I would rather have OTSR's than lap bars. They must be stupid people and besides I hate the OTSR's it has, I rode Storm Runner which has the same over the shoulder restraints and I think they are uncomfortable, I didnt like them at all and it was in no way better than a lap bar, although I guess Storm Runner has them for a reason because it kinda has inversions...but I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion...

Alpengeist

08-05-2006, 04:07 PM

They must be stupid people and besides I hate the OTSR's it has, I rode Storm Runner which has the same over the shoulder restraints and I think they are uncomfortable, I didnt like them at all and it was in no way better than a lap bar, although I guess Storm Runner has them for a reason because it kinda has inversions...but I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion...

Yea, Storm Runner has 3 inversions. You are out of your seat as much as you're in it, so you really do need the OTSR.;)

SnooSnoo

08-05-2006, 04:48 PM

You dont ALWAYS need OTSR's on coasters that go upside down. Hell, its more fun without them.

But, people say the the OTSR's give you more airtime.... but I think they are dumb... lol.

Alpengeist

08-05-2006, 05:37 PM

You hang going through the heartline roll and flying snake dive on Storm Runner, so the OTSR are needed. It's not like on Mindbender where the G-forces hold you in your seat on the loop, you are hanging (out of your seat) for a couple of seconds.

lakeccrunner

08-05-2006, 07:04 PM

Yeah OTSR's do allow you to have more airtime but I've heard that the airtime hill on Kingda Ka dosnt give you much airtime at all so whats the difference...

fathorse

08-05-2006, 10:11 PM

If being stapled in the crotch by that huge lap bar doesn't keep you in, I would just think the OTSR's are overkill.

coasterfreak044

08-06-2006, 03:27 AM

o.k. here it comes, you people will hate me for saying this, but i believe that TTD and Kingda ka are NOT rollercoasters. why you ask, it's simple. there's no element to it. the only, and i mean only reason they were built were for record breaking. has this what the industry has come to? I am hoping cedar point's next ride will be better than the last. Oh and this kingda ka...:down: i think it's copywright infringement, "let's take a coaster idea from america's greatest park, and add a hill at the end. no one can tell the difference." they do. dont get me wrong, cedar point is my home park, i have been going everyyear since i was born, so please tell me im not the only one.:grrrrr:

lakeccrunner

08-06-2006, 10:45 AM

^ I somewhat agree with you, but not totally, yeah the only reason they were built was to break records but I believe that they are coasters and great coasters at that, well at least TTD is a great coaster, I dont know about Kingda Ka because I've never been on it but I have heard a lot of negative things about it. And yeah I think it was stupid that a year later Intamin would go and build a coaster like that again that breaks the world record, despite all of Dragsters problems they decided to build another on even taller and faster, didnt they learn from Dragster, apparantly not, and they build one that everyone knew was going to have problems and ends up having even more problems. Sorry to people who like Six Flags, but its not a place for Kingda Ka, I dont think that Six Flags takes care of their rides like Cedar Fair does, I mean Kingda Ka is going to have breakdowns no matter what but at Six Flags I think its going to have more...

DisneyFellow

08-06-2006, 10:55 AM

This is kinda of topic but i wanted to put in some custom scenery for rct3 but i dont know how to acsess this :C:/Program Files/ Atari/ RCT3/ Style/ Themed folder.

Can someone tell how

Corn4ahead

08-06-2006, 10:18 PM

o.k. here it comes, youmpeople will hate me for saying this, but i believe that TTD and Kingda ka are NOT rollercoasters. why you ask, it's simple. there's no element to it. the only, and i mean only reason they were built were for record breaking. has this what the industry has come to? I am hoping cedar point's next ride will be better than the last. Oh and this kingda ka...:down: i think it's copywright infringement, "let's take a coaster idea from america's greatest park, and add a hill at the end. no one can tell the difference." they do. dont get me wrong, cedar point is my home park, i have been going everyyear since i was born, so please tell me im not the only one.:grrrrr:
everone knows the point of KK was for six flags to have bragging rights.

Harpo

08-07-2006, 11:01 AM

And yeah I think it was stupid that a year later Intamin would go and build a coaster like that again that breaks the world record

I don't blame Intamin for building it. After all, they were paid by Six Flags. I do think it was very bad judgement on the part of Six Flags, however, to build a near-clone of a ride that was known to have many maintenance issues, and to spend so much money on one ride at one park when the company is in so much financial trouble. They could have build decent rides at 5 or 6 parks for the price of the one coaster at Great Adventure, which could have increased the attendance at multiple locations, thereby helping them improve their financial standing. Instead, to use a horrible cliche, they put all their eggs in the Great Adventure basket.

DisneyFellow

08-07-2006, 01:18 PM

everone knows the point of KK was for six flags to have bragging rights.

Yes maybe but thats no reason to moke the gratest,tallest, fastest, R.C. in the world.

To high to BREATH,
to fast to SCREAM,

It only Can Be

KINGDA KA:D :D

Small Print

08-07-2006, 01:29 PM

Yes maybe but thats no reason to moke the gratest,tallest, fastest, R.C. in the world.

To high to BREATH,
to fast to SCREAM,

It only Can Be

KINGDA KA:D :D

Well...
All fan boys should burn in the fiery pits of communist hell :mad:

Corn4ahead

08-07-2006, 04:21 PM

They could have made kk more origional.......like put is more hills and turn like the xccellerator at kbf.

SnooSnoo

08-07-2006, 07:33 PM

I'm to have to roll with Harpo on this one... SF could have done so much better then installing KK.

Cedar Fair didn't have a reason NOT to build TTD, as they aren't in HUGE debt, and they don't own 45 billion parks.

Harpo

08-08-2006, 11:11 AM

And, even more important, Cedar Fair has been consistently turning a profit.

Six Flags has yet to have a profitable year in this decade.

Corn4ahead

08-08-2006, 11:51 AM

And, even more important, Cedar Fair has been consistently turning a profit.

Six Flags has yet to have a profitable year in this decade.
I dont know why six flags wasted money......it cost them millions of dollars to fix kk like 4 times already!