Save Magic Mountain The King of Thrills!!!

[Xtreme_Gz]

Yes we all know that the company is suggesting to sell this park over to scavenging rotten little real estate companies but luckily people are banning together to save this memorious park from destruction plus save two historic landmarks that if torn down is like ripping a page out of the humans history book. Now I call MM the KING of thrills because Disneyland has already the Crown for family friendly. But MM has it all! Cedar Point has excellent service and rides but not as jaw dropping as rides from MM I just want to clear up that this is my own opinion but should also be stated that MM is THE king of Thrills

Here in this link you will find a site that you can contribute to and post about any memories you've had about Magic

Mountain.http://www.savemagicmountain.com/SaveMagicMountain_Info.html

MM should not be torn down because of So Many reasons and record breaking rides

Revolution=first succesful Looping Coaster and protected as a Historic Landmark

Colossus= Once the Highest and Fastest woodie in the world...still holds this record for the west coast

Flashback=Only hairpin coaster in the world

Viper=still holds the record for highest looping coaster ever

Ninja=Fastest inverted swinging coaster in the west coast

Riddlers Revenge=Fastest and tallest stand-up in the world

Superman= first to ever break the 100mph speed barrier and break the 400 ft height for a roller coaster (say what you want but Superman is branded as a coaster and not an oversized thrill ride)

Goliath=once held the record for tallest first drop

Tatsu=Tallest and Highest Flying Coaster

Magic Mountain:Holds the record for most roller coasters in a single theme park.

[Matandmel05]

Why would they tear it all down instead of selling the park to some other company?

[WoddenWarior]

Eh... they just added a very expensive coaster. I am 99% sure they aren't tearing the park apart. Selling something doesn't mean destroying it.

This thread is pretty pointless.

[okinawaboy11]

Even if you do petition, online petitions never work.

[Jester_GCR]

I'm going there on Thursday. Will let you know how it turns out.

[BoRJoYZeE]

Well, if that time comes, I just hope it doesn't turn out for the worst. I know it isn't the best Six Flags park, but I would hate to see it to be sold off to real estates.

[fathorse]

Why would they tear it all down instead of selling the park to some other company?

Who's really in position to buy it?

And to Wodden, when you need cash, you need cash, and Six Flags needs lots of it and quick, they'll just parcel up the rides they can and redistribute them. It's already been said that developers are very interested in the site for some hefty real estate, they'd make millions upon millions in condo sales alone there.

Best bet would be to petition the government, like the CA legislature etc. It's what saved Cedar Point twice back in the 30's and 60's when they tried to tear it down for lakeside housing.

[Zonga]

Santa Clarita doesn't want it to go, so hopefully they'll be able to talk some sense into Six Flags.

[CoasterDude06]

Santa Clarita doesn't want it to go, so hopefully they'll be able to talk some sense into Six Flags.

Well Housten said the same thing too but what happen to Astroworld...well pass by it and all you see is dirt and no sign that it was there.

[IEATPASTE001]

I was going to let this rest, but screw it. Here are some things your "facts" don't tell people.

Superman TE -

Track: Left Right
Length: 1235' 1235'
Height: 415' 415'
Drop: 328' 1" 328' 1"

So where did the magical 80' go? It can't be that they are padding the stats with the fact that it is built over a some what small decline. Nah. SF would never do that. So it is very safe to say that no rider breaks the 400' mark, thanks for trying though.:rolleyes:

Revolution wasn't the first successful looping coaster. The first successful looping coasters were wooden. Revolution was the First modern day, and I use the term first loosely since Cedar Point opened Corkscrew a mere seven days later.:rolleyes:

Flashback is never open and should be torn down. Many others agree with me. Do you wonder why it is the only one in the world?

Cedar Point is installing their next coaster. So the last fact isn't true for that much longer. All these record breaking things on the west coast are just sad attempts at trying to feel special about a park that is run poorly. I would be sad to see SFMM close. It has a ton of potential in the correct hands. Six Flags has no one to point the finger at but themselves for the pickle they are in. I hope the Busch parks buy SFMM and turn it around. Maybe they won't have anymore parking lot coasters. When making this thread, did you think that your personal bias would actually influence people to think that it shouldn't be torn down? Bring up real reasons why SFMM shouldn't be sold for it's land and the coasters distributed to other parks or worse, destroyed. If you think the only thing that makes a park great is a plethora of poorly maintained and hardly operated rides, you haven't been to the eastern side of the US to ride coasters. There you will find great rides and a wonderful staff at most of the chain parks and some of the mom and pop operations have a great staff aswell.

In short, SFMM should not be torn down or seperated. It should be sold to another company that can turn it into the park you make it out to be. SFMM King of Thrills, nah. SFMM a good park? Yes.

[FlyingPenguins]

Revolution wasn't the first successful looping coaster. The first successful looping coasters were wooden. Revolution was the First modern day, and I use the term first loosely since Cedar Point opened Corkscrew a mere seven days later.:rolleyes:

Why would the old wooden loopers be considered successful if they gave everyone whiplash? :rolleyes: It was considered a failure because of this; there were no new looping coasters from early 20th century to 1975, when Revolution was the first successful coaster, with a tear-shaped loop that doesn't give riders neck injuries.

You do prove points with the other notes though.

[Xtreme_Gz]

I was going to let this rest, but screw it. Here are some things your "facts" don't tell people.

Superman TE -

Track: Left Right
Length: 1235' 1235'
Height: 415' 415'
Drop: 328' 1" 328' 1"

So where did the magical 80' go? It can't be that they are padding the stats with the fact that it is built over a some what small decline. Nah. SF would never do that. So it is very safe to say that no rider breaks the 400' mark, thanks for trying though.:rolleyes:

Revolution wasn't the first successful looping coaster. The first successful looping coasters were wooden. Revolution was the First modern day, and I use the term first loosely since Cedar Point opened Corkscrew a mere seven days later.:rolleyes:

Flashback is never open and should be torn down. Many others agree with me. Do you wonder why it is the only one in the world?

Cedar Point is installing their next coaster. So the last fact isn't true for that much longer. All these record breaking things on the west coast are just sad attempts at trying to feel special about a park that is run poorly. I would be sad to see SFMM close. It has a ton of potential in the correct hands. Six Flags has no one to point the finger at but themselves for the pickle they are in. I hope the Busch parks buy SFMM and turn it around. Maybe they won't have anymore parking lot coasters. When making this thread, did you think that your personal bias would actually influence people to think that it shouldn't be torn down? Bring up real reasons why SFMM shouldn't be sold for it's land and the coasters distributed to other parks or worse, destroyed. If you think the only thing that makes a park great is a plethora of poorly maintained and hardly operated rides, you haven't been to the eastern side of the US to ride coasters. There you will find great rides and a wonderful staff at most of the chain parks and some of the mom and pop operations have a great staff aswell.

In short, SFMM should not be torn down or seperated. It should be sold to another company that can turn it into the park you make it out to be. SFMM King of Thrills, nah. SFMM a good park? Yes.

what I meant from first sucessful loop was a loop that did'nt break your back or even killed you if you don't believe it read the sign that was posted in front of Rev. that states it is the FIRST ACTUAL succesful looping coaster and is a historic landmark. and basically crokscrew is well...a corckscrew not a loop and so if it was seven days open from the Rev. whatever came first is whatever came first.

And the fact that MM should be the king of thrills is They have the ONLY 4th Dimensional coaster (soon one to open in Japan but still the first). and now they have the tallest flying coaster and this one actually looks like your flying unlike "Air" or "SMUF" which mostly is small or hugs the ground (although parts where your face looks like its gonna scrape the dirt looks pretty cool)
and holds most of the records for there roller coasters. MM being the King of Thrills is of course my opinion just to state that if no one did'nt get it b4.

I know the staff is poor there but what MM is basically was for was teens to have fun and ride coasters. Cedar point is practically the best in the buisness when it comes to theme parks but there roller coasters are a bit...cliche its like faster and taller make the most insane rides but whatever happened to the G's (Ive never been on there rides so if im wrong then...yeah lol but from the looks of them like MF its nothing but ups and downs. and TTD is just a larger version of Xcelerator here at Knotts an and that just felt like superman at MM only without the 6 sec. of zero g's...wich is fun but not at all gravity inducing.

so what im saying is CP has the tallest and the fastest but MM has the more thrilling and Gravity enducing rides goliaths=3 G's helix Tatsu having you breathless (literally) at the bottom of the pretzel loop. Viper=rough and wiley like an out of control coaster (wich is not really a good point but does kinda scare you of how rough it is) batman=practically the most INSANE ride at MM (by insane i mean the most gravity of course).

Ive never ridden any ride at CP but from the looks of there rides its like ups and downs and, yeah maybe the new ride will be a bit much the same the tracks look a bit similar from MF or TTD. and again I DO admit CP is THE best in the buisness.

[Alpengeist]

But MM has it all! Cedar Point has excellent service and rides but not as jaw dropping as rides from MM I just want to clear up that this is my own opinion but should also be stated that MM is THE king of Thrills
IMO, SFMM has a nice collection of coaster, but nothing special. ...and as far as thrills go, MF and TTD have much more thrills than anything at Magic Mountain.

...and for the record, I'm not a CP fanboy, I'm just stating my opinion.;)



Magic Mountain:Holds the record for most roller coasters in a single theme park.

Sorry, but I consider SFMM tied for the most with 16. Flashback has not operated since 2003, thus making it a giant lawn ornament.:rolleyes:

[Harpo]

what I meant from first sucessful loop was a loop that did'nt break your back or even killed you if you don't believe it read the sign that was posted in front of Rev. that states it is the FIRST ACTUAL succesful looping coaster and is a historic landmark. and basically crokscrew is well...a corckscrew not a loop and so if it was seven days open from the Rev. whatever came first is whatever came first.

You may wish to consider doing a bit more research. Corkscrew does have two corkscrew turns, but the name should not deceive you... it also has a vertical loop. Cedar Point's Corkscrew was the first coaster in the world to combine the vertical loop and corkscrew turn in the same roller coaster, and it was the first coaster to flip riders upside down 3 times. For accuracy, however, it should be noted that the two Great America parks opened coasters a couple of weeks later that had 4 inversions -- 2 loops, 2 corkscrew turns.

Ive never ridden any ride at CP but from the looks of there rides its like ups and downs and, yeah maybe the new ride will be a bit much the same the tracks look a bit similar from MF or TTD. and again I DO admit CP is THE best in the buisness.

I've ridden all the coasters at both parks (with the exception of Tatsu, which had not yet been built on my last trip to Magic Mountain). Purely my opinion, of course, but Cedar Point has 4 coasters that are in my personal top 10. Magic Mountain has 0 in my personal top 10. That's out of over 600 coasters that I've ridden since 2000.

NOT my personal opinion: Cedar Point has 3 steel coasters that were in Amusement Today's top 10 steel coasters list for 2005 (numbers 1, 3, and 7), and Magic Mountain had 0. Neither park had a top 10 wood coaster in 2005, although Cedar Fair owned two (now three, with the purchase of the Paramount parks) top 10 wood coasters chain-wide, and Six Flags owned none.

[Jester_GCR]

Was there yesterday. Lots of fun. There were a lot of people there in the morning. couple thousand before the park opened. Around to 2pm it did seem to empty out a lot. Longest line that I was in was Tatsu. 45min. Got in line around 10:30am. The weather was very very hot. Here is the order my brother and I went.

Tatsu, Psyclone, Superman (Twice) Lunch around 2:30, Log Jammer, Goliath, Batman, Batman Stunt show, Ninja, Roaring Rapids, Viper, Colossus (twice)

The were some "rowdy" Teenagers AKA Gang members and wanabes, but I didn't see any problems. While we were waiting for Psyclone we did see that the Deja Vu had gotten stuck. Did see how it happened but the car was stopped just past the station. They were up there for 10-15min.
They one really bad thing is, it sometimes was hard to find a ride entrance. It took us 10-15 min to find Ninja. And the park maps sucked. But overall it was lots of fun. I will post the pictures I took once i get them developed.

[Petmaster]

Originally Posted by Zonga
Santa Clarita doesn't want it to go, so hopefully they'll be able to talk some sense into Six Flags.my aunt and cousin lives there, and i know they dont want it to go!

[okinawaboy11]

NOT my personal opinion: Cedar Point has 3 steel coasters that were in Amusement Today's top 10 steel coasters list for 2005 (numbers 1, 3, and 7)
Yeah but Amusment Today, is like Movie Critics, they don't really count because they are the opinions of old people....or they're rigged.

I personally, HATED Magnum.

MF, was fun, but not a top coaster. NOT enough airtime. I only found airtime on the first drop. And the TINY hill near the station.

I would take Raging Bull or Goliath (SFoG) over MF. TTD, fun, but short. Also, TATSU, KICKED ASS!

Def a top 10.

Oh don't get me started about the Voyage. I rode it once and fell in love. And I could ride Hades all day. Both are GGI (Gravity Group INC) and by far pass MF and TTD for me.

Riddlers, is WAY better then Mantis. And Raptor, ok I'll give it to raptor. It's fun.

But the Batman Clones are like 9 on my list, they are so common, but have so much force.

My top 10 list.
1 Voyage
2 Tatsu
3 Hades
4 Avalanche
5 Goliath (SFoG)
6 Raptor
7 Raging Bull
8 S:RoS (ALL)
9 Batman Clones
10 Viper (SFGAm)

[Harpo]

Actually, Amusement Today's choices are made via surveys that are sent out to amusement park enthusiasts. I was surveyed one year (although not last year).

Hmmm, does that make me an old person, or a rigged person???

My 4 favorites are Raptor, Millennium Force, Top Thrill Dragster, and Magnum XL-200, all for very different reasons. Air time is not my only factor, and I don't consider it an absolute requirement for a coaster to be great.

But, of course, that's the wonderful thing about ride preferences -- as long as a person discusses their own preferences, they can't be wrong. It's only when a person tries projecting their preferences on someone else where a mistake can occur. Purely my opinion, once again, but by saying that a major industry magazine's opinions don't count, that's a sign of trying to project preferences on the many people who were surveyed. I think it is unfair to so easily discount the opinions of many other amusement park enthusiasts.

[Alpengeist]

I prefer Mitch Hawker's coaster poll, myself. I find it more accurate and fair, since everyone can vote and not just a select number of people.

With that said... Harpo is right, as long as it's an opinion, it can't be wrong.