Speed Limiters?

[Revlimiter]

Hi, i'm new to this site but I have been following TDU for quite a while now. I was just wondering if the german cars in the game will be limited to 155 like the Mercedes and BMW's in real life? If so could you remove the limiter with one of the upgrades?

[xDetroitMetalx]

I doubt it. None of these games has had a limiter for the fact that they are racing games and to have a governed race car is a joke. Secondly they are actually very easy to remove from your cars computer in real life if you have the right programming knowledge.

[shelby-man]

man that would suck if they did have limiters imagine racing and then your engine shutting down at 155

[foproy]

i cant drive 155 :p

[KoenigViper]

Hmm, three upgrades to remove all 3 limiters on the Mercedes SL65 AMG.:p

Anyways, I highly doubt they will.

[xXShadowStrikeX]

Why limit the speed at 155 mph anyway? I guess I don't understand, but what's the point? The driver would be breaking laws anyway, unless he was driving on certain parts of the Autobahn. :p I think if they had a limiter at something like 80 mph it would make more sense if they wanted to stop speeding. Even though the limiters would be remove...

[KoenigViper]

Mercedes and BMW do it as a safety precaution really.

[foproy]

in real life unless you race why do you reall need to go any faster than that anyway? or even that fast in the first place?

['63 Vette]

Nice Sammy Hagar reference Foproy ;)

[PT Black217]

Yea, BMW definately does it as a precaution for their new M5's and M6's. If you take off the limiter on either of those cars, the top speed is at least 200mph. That's not my guess, that a fact that I read in Car & Driver. But, again, it's still breaking the law a 155, but I guess they have it on as "safety".

[xXShadowStrikeX]

in real life unless you race why do you reall need to go any faster than that anyway? or even that fast in the first place?
That's what I meant. Going at that speed is too fast for anyone to be going. As a safety precaution, isn't it better to limit it to 80 mph? If the are going to put a limit on it at 155 mph, might as well take it off all together.

P.S. I wouldn't agree with an 80 mph limiter. I was just saying it would make more sense.

[cornerback1]

I completely agree shodow striker....but where's the fun in that :)

[shelby-man]

limiter are also used for an insurance purpse if u have 1 you are lesslikely to be in a accident i guess thats wat i have been told

[foproy]

Nice Sammy Hagar reference Foproy ;)

i was starting to wonder if anyone would catch on.

['63 Vette]

Some of us older guys know that Sammy isn't just "that guy from Van Halen".
Of course, I guess that really shows my age though. ;)

[KoenigViper]

limiter are also used for an insurance purpse if u have 1 you are lesslikely to be in a accident i guess thats wat i have been told
It voids the warranty when you remove the limiters.

Our neighbor had it done on a SL65 AMG, and sold it when he found out the warranty was no good.

[KoenigViper]

Some of us older guys know that Sammy isn't just "that guy from Van Halen".
Of course, I guess that really shows my age though. ;)
I don't mind Van Halen, but Sammy Hagar>Van Halen.:cool:

[foproy]

i was allways more of a dlr fan myself. as far as speed limiters go. i would not mind to see a cruise mode where you couldnt go over the speed limit in a particular area. and any one you saw was going the same speed. so then these guys who are allwys speeding on the game and crashing into people will be able to do it without bothering cruisers.

[bimmerlovere39]

It was done as a gentleman's agreement between Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz in order to help prevent an Autobahn speedlimit.

However, it is good for them b/c they don't have to go mounting 200mph tires on the car.

Plus, on a real track (not an oval) street M-Car prob won't hit its limiter, short of a track with a HUGE straight

[KoenigViper]

Um, what do you mean prevent an Autobahn speedlimit?
There's already speedlimits on the Autobahn.

[bimmerlovere39]

Well, the autobahn hasn't always had limits, and so I think they did it before the limits were started.

[MokoMoko]

60% of the autobahns have speed limits.
I think tha the 155mph limiters are stupid, it doesn't matter that are you going 155 or 220mph if you crash you'll still die, even when it's limited to 155mph.

But maybe people think that cars sound faster when they have limited topspeeds. Because if the car can only go 156mph, people think it's cooler if the topspeed is limited to 155mph. It sounds faster.
It sounds like the car could go much faster(even if it couldn't).

Like with Bugatti Veyron it sounds like the car has more potential when it's limited topseed is 253mph. It wouldn't sound so coll if it's not limited topseed is 254mph.

[mercedesfreak18]

i hope there's no speed limiter, other wise i'm not going to drive mercedes much, even though mercedes is my favourite car brand (2 of them at home, for the record)

[mercedesfreak18]

60% of the autobahns have speed limits.
I think tha the 155mph limiters are stupid, it doesn't matter that are you going 155 or 220mph if you crash you'll still die, even when it's limited to 155mph.

But maybe people think that cars sound faster when they have limited topspeeds. Because if the car can only go 156mph, people think it's cooler if the topspeed is limited to 155mph. It sounds faster.
It sounds like the car could go much faster(even if it couldn't).

Like with Bugatti Veyron it sounds like the car has more potential when it's limited topseed is 253mph. It wouldn't sound so coll if it's not limited topseed is 254mph.

80 % of the roads are limited, but now to the point, first of all, a mercedes sl 55 amg, limited to 155 mph, can drive, unlimited, at speeds of over, and this is serious, 180 mph, the high powered ones up to 200 mph..

in germany (where this limit thing is the biggest, i guess it started in germany) the cars have to be limited, ass the highest alowed speed at the high way/autobahn(the cars top speed) will otherwise be limited/lowered, as it's really dangerous.

these cars, having 500 horses, are surely capable of more then 170 mph...
they don't want those limits, they have to get them, because of the goverment.(in japan the power limit is 280 horsepower, and top speed of normal production cars is 155 mph). and for the bugatti, it is known, that bugatti couldn't release the veyron, for a long time because it couldn't stick to the road, at the speeds it can reach, the cars stability is to low (pictures of tests at the nurnbergring showed this, as it turned 180 degrees)

you just try to read this one google, or in a car magazine, this is known to alot of people.

the limits that you talk about, might be on some cars, but the most, are for more then 10 mph of difference.

and uhm, not all the ''autobahns'' have limits, they seriously don't.

[KoenigViper]

The Mercedes-Benz SLs, or at least the SL65 AMG, have 3 limiters. The 203Mph one is the final limit. Top Gear took off the 1st and hit almost 190Mph.

So the car is plenty fast. They're just for safety.

[mercedesfreak18]

safety, who cares, i rather die in a car excident then become 80years old and die cause im to old to live!!!
but yes safety is what those limiters are about...

[foproy]

yes but maybe the innocents you took with you didn't want to die in a car crash.

[Wanderer22]

limiter are also used for an insurance purpse if u have 1 you are lesslikely to be in a accident i guess thats wat i have been told

While you're probably right, it doesn't make much sense. The limiter on my car (Mazda3) is set to around 115mph. Which is only 1500rpm short of the redline in fifth gear (don't ask me how I know this.. hehe). A lot of idiots can still do a lot of damage in a car going a hundred miles an hour.

[JipJopJones]

When I turn old and feeble, I'm going to rent a really fast car and careen of a claff at 200mph

[PT Black217]

Another funny thing about an 80mph limiter, is that even if there was one, 80% person would take it off...and still not go over 80, lol.

['63 Vette]

safety, who cares, i rather die in a car excident then become 80years old and die cause im to old to live!!!
but yes safety is what those limiters are about...

yes but maybe the innocents you took with you didn't want to die in a car crash.

Heck no, I'd rather die like my grandfather, in his sleep. Not like the three screaming passengers in his car....

(yeah, it's an old joke, but I couldn't resist) ;)

[addisonpeterson]

That's what I meant. Going at that speed is too fast for anyone to be going. As a safety precaution, isn't it better to limit it to 80 mph? If the are going to put a limit on it at 155 mph, might as well take it off all together.

P.S. I wouldn't agree with an 80 mph limiter. I was just saying it would make more sense.

Honestly there should be no such thing as a limiter because I know I love driving and going that fast must be fun. I thing the U.S. should convert its 4 lane freeways into an autobahn for the left 2 lanes.

[bimmerlovere39]

too much liability.

Plus, there are 3 reasons that the autobahn is so safe:
1) Construction: have you ever heard of a pothole on the autobahn?
2) Drive education: you can't learn to drive till you are 21, and they have a very through driver's ed program
3) Safer Cars: The TuV (their DOT) is VERY VERY strict. adding an aftermarket spoiler can make your car illegal on the street.

[xXShadowStrikeX]

Plus the lane width on the autobahn is much larger then what you see on our highways.

[bigblazer87]

Much more courtesy and respect; total opposite of the highways and freeways and such I have to contend with getting to work in Sacramento. I hate the morons in their BMW's and Audi's sipping on their Starbucks while talking to their Bluetooth headset (they're talking to themselves, don't they understand that!?). Then they cut me off and dissapear from my view (the front of my hood is 6 feet off the ground; so small cars can hide from my sight). I'm just trying to get to home or work and not kill someone out of rage on the way there.

[bimmerlovere39]

No fair stereotyping BMW and Audi drivers. Most other drivers do that to. Well, that or they just can't drive...

[BluntSmokie777]

When I turn old and feeble, I'm going to rent a really fast car and careen of a claff at 200mph

LMAO

[schemed1]

it feels like it has a limter whene i top out at 200mph

[MX6]

Most people in the US dont ever get over 100 mph. Fastest Ive gone was 110 and that was on a long straight road with nobody around. I seriously doubt youd be able to reach 155+ on a standard US road.

[KSpark]

it feels like it has a limter whene i top out at 200mph

All cars have limiters. They're either electronic or aerodynamic.

I heard you can take the aero limiters off by putting a body kit on.







:noob:

[Brown Chaos]

In the game the benzes are only limited to 155 mph...lol. Well the actual street ones..SL65 and CLS55 anyway.

http://content.streetwise.com/SW/TDU/TDU_Gallery/Mercedes/index.html

[Easyvue]

A lot of the cars in game have a 155 top speed listed, but can all be modded to remove it at the tune shops.

[bimmerlovere39]

All cars have limiters. They're either electronic or aerodynamic.

I heard you can take the aero limiters off by putting a body kit on. :noob:


You forgot gearing.

And yes, the cars that should have limiters do

[MasterKain2053]

Mercedes and BMW do it as a safety precaution really.

All cars have governors installed from the factory. Not just german cars. They are installed because the tires are only limited for a certain speed, and exceeding that speed will, as we say in then automotive business, explosively decompress. Not sure of the year but they have definately been on the latest cars possible since 95 or maybe 90 all cars have to have a governor.

[loocsiaixelsid]

Not all cars, american made cars are not electronically goverened the supreme court ruled its unconstitutional i dont remember exactly which one it interefered with but GM only got away with it for like 95 to 99 then they had to lift the govern

[Ebiggs]

Well, the CLS55 AMG and SL65 do top out at 155, but it isn't because of a governor, it is because fifth gear hit the rev limiter then. I'm curious to find out if tuning them changes the gearing, because a car with so much power and torque is a waste of money if you can't get it over 155.

[FlyingPee]

Well, the CLS55 AMG and SL65 do top out at 155, but it isn't because of a governor, it is because fifth gear hit the rev limiter then. I'm curious to find out if tuning them changes the gearing, because a car with so much power and torque is a waste of money if you can't get it over 155.
on my slk 55 amg i just went to the tune up shop and the only upgrade I could get took off the speed limiter and made the braking a little better. I think top speed is 174 now, but that car isn't powerful anyways =p

[sadcityfan]

I believe limiters were introduced to reduce emissions. If a car is doing over 155mph its revs are significantly higher so its emissions and, therefore, fuel economy are very poor.

I'm not sure if its a German Directive, but all the German cars ingame (minus special editions) seem to have the 155mph limit imposed.

[McLarenF1God]

The cars in Test Drive have limiters. Just thought I'd say.

[Brown Chaos]

Actumally. The limiters in BMW and Mercedes Benz cars are only for American soil as to avoid a Top speed war between the two brands. It has nothing to do with safety or emmisions.

If it had to do with safety, why those two? If it had to do with emissions, then add a sixth gear, will be much better.

In Europe, the M classes top at out 195-200mph, same with the AMGs. It's just to avoid a top speed war.