Should TDU Have SUVs?

[fasterzondadude]

I think so. Well at least like a Denali, Escalade, Benz ML500, BMW X5 and all of them, what do you think?

[kmizzle69]

umm No

[fasterzondadude]

Why Not?

[mopar4life]

No, SUVs are the worse things ever created. ALL SUVS are big fat and slow. There is no room for them on TDU. Maybe not all of them how about a SRT-8 Jeep Grand Cherokee or Trailblazer SS.

[VertigoSFX]

SUV's are cool, but this game isnt tunerville...thats the only reason to put SUV's in the game is if it were tunerville...this is an american paradise with fast cars, not slow gas guzzlers...at least supercars are gas guzzlers with lots of speed

[KoenigViper]

No, SUVs are the worse things ever created. ALL SUVS are big fat and slow. There is no room for them on TDU.
You like talking about things you don't know, don't you?

[kmizzle69]

i dont think suv's are bad because i own one myself they just arent made for this game if anything was to be added it would be rarer cars

[gamefrek14]

putting suvs in tdu would kill the game instead of tdu it would be slow drive unlimited

[bimmerlovere39]

Um, what about the Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG, the G55 AMG, the BMW X5 4.8is, the Porsche Cayenne Turbo/Turbo S?

The Cayenne Turbo S hits 60 from a standstill in 4.8s an can hit 168 MPH. So it would certainly not be the slowest... vehicle in TDU

[mopar4life]

I didnt think of those but I dont keep up with foriegn cars that much. Although that Cayenne is sweet.

[VOS]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[KoenigViper]

putting suvs in tdu would kill the game instead of tdu it would be slow drive unlimited
Oh yes given the fact the cars bimmerlover can outrun any of the starter cars.

ML63 AMG = 503Bhp V8
X5 4.8is = 355bhp V8
FX45 = 320Bhp V8
Range Rover SC = 400Bhp V8
G55 AMG = 469Bhp V8
Cayenne Turbo = 450Bhp V8
Cayenne Turbo S = 520Bhp V8

These are just European and Japanese ones too.
There are some fast American trucks as well. For the topic, I say yes. Some of you want Japanese imports, so why can't some of us have powerful SUVs to drive in. It adds diversity.

[xXShadowStrikeX]

Who buys an SUV to cruise in Oahu? I guess some people might? I don't know. If we add SUVs, we have to add trucks. If we add trucks, tuners ask where there imports are. The selection of cars/bikes is good as it is. They are nice to have in certain games though.

[Corsis]

Chevy has/had the Trailblazer SS, i believe that had about 390-400 hp. That was pretty fast.

There is the Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8. which gets 415hp and does 0-60 in under 5.

I personally would'nt race with them or drive them, but there are a few that some people might like to drive around with.

[xXShadowStrikeX]

I mean if they were in I'd probably buy them all, but I don't think we need them in there either.

[bimmerlovere39]

And As for buying them to cruise in, why not? "Not getting immersed in the lifestyle"? And you would be in an Audi A6? Nothin' against the Audi (I plan on having one in-game), but it doesn't sing like a ferrari nor have the wind in the hair feeling of even a sky. I doesn't even have the whole bling thing (wich, in my opinion, is a good thing...) So, yes, high performance prestige SUVs would fit in.

That said, a sclade or a denali would not fit in (performance). And as for trucks, can you show me one that can match the prestige, comfort, and performance of one of these? Blatantly, trucks don't carry the whole prestige thing SUVs do.

[xXShadowStrikeX]

If you are reffering to me, I don't agree with some of the car selections that were made for TDU. The cars that were selected were based on the theme of sporty, exotic cars/bikes to cruise along the roads of Oahu. I'm just saying SUVs usually have connotations of being glug, glug big pieces of metal crowding highways and roads. There are some SUVs that could work in TDU, but others wouldn't. It's just the theory of if a person asks for a cookie and gets it, they ask for two. Car selection for TDU is just a thin line bordering what should be in and what shouldn't. If one SUV gets in, then someone will be complaining about another SUV that didn't get in or the fact that certain trucks (Saleen S331) or tuners didn't get in. (Mitsubishi Evo)

[VertigoSFX]

so yes i would consider a porsche cayenne as a car, but i just think they'd have to mess with the game a bit because u couldnt have cars racing suv's, we all know what would win, they would have to have their own class where cars raced cars and suv's raced suv's idk how much enthusiasm that would get from the public

although some suv's have high horsepower ratings, they lack in the acceleration department and REALLY lack in the handling department, they may have a high top speed, but they wont give as much of a thrill as the cars would...thats why they wont have SUV's in tdu

[KoenigViper]

Actually, SUVs like the Denali could be considered.

The game is supposed to let you live the rich lifestyle. The rich lifestyle does include expensive cars, but usually to cruise in, not race the roads in. If you notice, most of these lifestyles also include SUVs. You wouldn't have to race them, but they would fit the game's slogan and lifestyle. These lifestyles though don't include cars like the Sky, or usually import tuner cars. So, the slogan is actually misleading a little.

Vertigo, SUVs we listed have 0-60s of 5-6 seconds. That's faster than a lot of cars and suspension? Um, that's all fined tuned, so those SUVs are actually very fast.

BTW, BMW X5 LeMans would indeed smoke a lot of cars in TDU. The 350Z, Audis, Pontiacs, Saturn, and a whole lot of others would not stand a chance against that SUV.

[VertigoSFX]

i do realize some suv's do have the acceleration power...but none of them have the handling that a car has, and they never will because they're too top-heavy

and yes this game is about a rich lifestyle, but its classified as a racing game, not a cruising game, although u do drive around a lot, the basis of this game is to race to gain money for faster and better cars, and better houses to suit ur ever growing collection of automobiles

i think most males (which is what this game is geared toward) think of the "dream" lifestyle as having a fast car with an awesome house in a tropical paradise...the "dream" lifestyle doesnt include an SUV...thats my philosophy

[mopar4life]

I with you there Vertigo but if they were to put SUVs in they should have the SRT-10 Ram,Chevy SS Silverado and the Saleen S331.

[bimmerlovere39]

I don't think that SUVs would require their own class. They would just be put in a slower class. As for handling, they could prob out handle alot of Muscle cars.

[VertigoSFX]

I with you there Vertigo but if they were to put SUVs in they should have the SRT-10 Ram,Chevy SS Silverado and the Saleen S331.
i agree with you, they gotta go with the trucks if they go with the SUV's

and the SUV's may be able 2 out handle muscle cars because ive personally never driven a muscle car

[bimmerlovere39]

I don't think that they should put trucks in. Trucks dopn't belong in this game. They don't carry the prestige, don't have the luxury factor, and the hadling is wacky with nothing in the bed.

And then there are those looks...

[KoenigViper]

And then there is the fact you're talking out the butt without any research.....

No luxury? Go look at a $111,600 Cayenne Turbo S or a $44,000 V8 Touareg. Even a BMW X5 or Mercedes-Benz ML model has luxury. The G-Class Mercedes? Some luxury there. Even the Audi Q7, Denali GM SUVs are luxury.

Handling wise? Go take a look at a 520Bhp Turbo S Cayenne.

What Prestige is needed? It's the manufacturers who will give it prestige. The Porsche name has prestige. Given the Cayenne Turbo S is a Porsche, it'll be well-respected for a power house SUV.

[mercedesfreak18]

IT SHOULD HAVE SUV'S, AS THE GAME IS CALLED UNLIMITED, SUVS SHOULD BE POSSIBLE, CAUSE I LIKE THE HUMMER, THE BEEMER, THE MERC, THE LAMBO, THE PORSCH, THE AUDI, THE VW, THE INFINITY AND THE RANGE...THESE CARS ARE FAST THESE DAYS, THE CAN BEAT ALOT OF OLDER SPORT CARS...

[russ_playa]

THEY SHOULD DEFENETLY PUT SUVS IN!!!! CAN U IMAGINE GOING 300 KM ON YOUR PORSCHE CAYANNE, OR ON YOUR RED DODGE RAM 1500 HEMI... MAAAANNNNN THAT WOULD JUST ROCK!!!!!!!!!!

[Ominous Gamer]

I love how the beta forums and the open forums are mirror images or each other. Except one side actually knows whats going on.

[SVT_MAN]

Having SUVs in the game would be the equivalent of a having sumo wrestlers in a gymnastics event. It might be entertaining, but at the end of the day, it wouldn't be right. SUVs belong off road, so I don't understand why they're so popular on the road. Unless you need one to tow a boat or a trailer, I don't see the point. In fact, unless you have a huge family, I don't see a reason for using one to tow a boat with. On the whole, they're a status symbol, and that's all.

It's the only advantage I see to rising fuel costs. Less of those monstrosities on the road.

mercedesfreak18: First of all, please refrain from using CAPS. It's the online equivalent of screaming at someone in case you didn't know. I'm not trying to make fun of you - just giving you a heads up because the mods might not be happy with the uppercase ...

In any case, Unlimited focuses on the fact that you try to live an 'unlimited lifestyle'. Since the focus is on racing in the game -- an SUV isn't purpose-built for racing, in case you didn't notice. Yes, some might be fast in a straight-line, but physics don't bend the rules for SUVs. The more mass you have, the harder it's going to be to turn and stop. That doesn't make for a vehicle that is particulary sporting. Especially not with the high center of gravity.

It seems that a lot of drivers don't understand physics though -- considering how many SUVs you see rolled over by soccer mom's every year.

[bimmerlovere39]

In any case, Unlimited focuses on the fact that you try to live an 'unlimited lifestyle'. Since the focus is on racing in the game -- an SUV isn't purpose-built for racing, in case you didn't notice.

Last time I checked, an A6, an A3, and SL65, or any other roadster aren't meant for racing, either.

Keonig, I was talking about trucks, not SUVs. Did you already forget my earlier posts?
:pout:

[SVT_MAN]

Last time I checked, an A6, an A3, and SL65, or any other roadster aren't meant for racing, either.

Keonig, I was talking about trucks, not SUVs. Did you already forget my earlier posts?
:pout:

Actually, the A6, A3, and SL65 are made for racing. It's illegal to race them on the road, of course, but on a closed circuit is where they would really shine. Several owners of these cars participate in closed-circuit road racing. Or, at least I would assume they do. I know of a lot of Mustang clubs around here that do that.

[KoenigViper]

Last time I checked, an A6, an A3, and SL65, or any other roadster aren't meant for racing, either.

Keonig, I was talking about trucks, not SUVs. Did you already forget my earlier posts?
:pout:
It doesn't matter. Trucks? Lincoln trucks have luxury in them. A DENALI model from GMC is also made in PICKUP form, aka Sierra Denali.

Dodge Ram SRT-10, is a performance truck. The GM Cyclone and Typhoon were high performance trucks.

Bottom line, you're making stupid acquisitions.

[Ominous Gamer]

you're making stupid acquisitions.[/FONT]


I think this entire thread can be summed up like this. You all have no clue whats in the game.



The font you use is also extremely retarded.

[KoenigViper]

Wow, really Einstein? That's just genious because we didn't get picked to beta test the PS2.

Quit showing off, and go back to the private forums if that's what you're going to do. Since only a select few were chosen, it's not some open house thing we can all participate in like a drugged-up Love.

BTW, fonts don't have a brain, so technically, they can't be retarded. Unsurprisingly, only idiots come up with such a stupid response.

[bimmerlovere39]

Actually, the A6, A3, and SL65 are made for racing. It's illegal to race them on the road, of course, but on a closed circuit is where they would really shine. Several owners of these cars participate in closed-circuit road racing. Or, at least I would assume they do. I know of a lot of Mustang clubs around here that do that.

Agreed, they all are good PLATFORMS for racers, but they are to darn heavy, have too much built in understeer and too much roll.

Now, I WILL agree that they DO make good take-'em-to-a-track-school car. In fact, my parents have taken both of their cars (a 2003 BMW (E39) 525i 5-Speed (Dad) and a 2000 MBE320 4-Matic wagon. Yes, WAGON) to a BMW Car Club of America high performance driving school up at VIR (Virginia International Raceway) (with me watching from the sidelines and sitting in on the classroom sessions). My parents said that both cars handled it well. It should be noted that this was their first school and the both ran with stability and traction control on.

That said, while I timing equipment wasn't allowed, I was able to not something.

There were three race prepped previous gen (E36) M3s, along with ALOT of E36 and Current-gen (e46) M3s. It was blatantly obvious how much faster the club racers were.

Yes, I am aware of club racing, between the BMWCCA club racers running at the driving school and the Porsche Club race in the same weekend as last years Grand-Am VIR 400 (Go PTG!)

Just as a note to tie this in with the thread, there was a X3 3.0i at the BMWCCA driving school. It had no more body roll than the 2000 E320 4-Matic Wagon. They ran neck-and-neck for several sessions.

Edit: That message looked so much longer in the typing window...

[Andrewistheman]

no SUvs i nthis game that would ruin it SUvs use to much gas i think only cars should be in here !

[mercedesfreak18]

i wonder why porsche has such a powerfull v8, and so does mercedes/ bmw, and some others, when they want the cars to be slow, those cars could race (dakar, so they do race) with that amound of power, o well, they probably don't like the sound of in line 4 cilinder engine(cause i don't, i rather listen to a big v6 or v8 or even better a v12)
honestly, those cars could really be at this game, alot of people like those cars, some don't, but the hell with that, these suvs are just nice, and needed to go offroad, which i see as uhm unlimited, possibilitys(unlimited, thats the name of this game....)

[SVT_MAN]

Agreed, they all are good PLATFORMS for racers, but they are to darn heavy, have too much built in understeer and too much roll.

Now, I WILL agree that they DO make good take-'em-to-a-track-school car. In fact, my parents have taken both of their cars (a 2003 BMW (E39) 525i 5-Speed (Dad) and a 2000 MBE320 4-Matic wagon. Yes, WAGON) to a BMW Car Club of America high performance driving school up at VIR (Virginia International Raceway) (with me watching from the sidelines and sitting in on the classroom sessions). My parents said that both cars handled it well. It should be noted that this was their first school and the both ran with stability and traction control on.

That said, while I timing equipment wasn't allowed, I was able to not something.

There were three race prepped previous gen (E36) M3s, along with ALOT of E36 and Current-gen (e46) M3s. It was blatantly obvious how much faster the club racers were.

Yes, I am aware of club racing, between the BMWCCA club racers running at the driving school and the Porsche Club race in the same weekend as last years Grand-Am VIR 400 (Go PTG!)

Just as a note to tie this in with the thread, there was a X3 3.0i at the BMWCCA driving school. It had no more body roll than the 2000 E320 4-Matic Wagon. They ran neck-and-neck for several sessions.

Edit: That message looked so much longer in the typing window...

Of course a light-weight, stripped-down car will ALWAYS be faster than its electronics-laden road-going counterpart. But that's not really comparing apples to apples. They're two totally different animals. Nonetheless, it doesn't tarnish the fact that some cars are purpose-built to perform at a level that they could be raced -- whether in a quarter mile or on a closed-circuit. And, sure, most of the cars have understeer dialed in on purpose. But, this is for a reason. The average joe has never had to, and doesn't know how to correct an oversteer. Understeer is easy to correct. For a rear wheel drive car, let off the gas. It's a lot easier to decrease throttle than to steer your way out like you have to in an oversteer condition. Just ask any NASCAR driver what type of car they'd prefer to have. Sure, a loose car is faster, but a car that's just a tick snug (tight, understeering) is going to be more consistent and easier to control. Of course, the ideal is to have a car that is neutral, but very seldom does that happen. In most cases, a neutral car on the road could get inexperienced drivers into trouble as well.

[cerebus23]

yea i dont get the point of these sport suvs oh yea it goes like a bat out of hell, given enough time, in a straight line but try n take a racing turn in one.

so no they should not be in.

[bbshepp]

yea i dont get the point of these sport suvs oh yea it goes like a bat out of hell, given enough time, in a straight line but try n take a racing turn in one.

so no they should not be in.
My boss had a Cayenne Turbo S which was really quick until we'd hit corners were he couldn't keep up with my MX-5.

SUV's should be left for other games like Saints row (look cool when pimped), I can't see much point them being in TDU as you'd get smoked by something average like a boxster. To be honest this subject has been covered previously in 'Should Pick-ups be included'.

[mercedesfreak18]

youre boss cant drive....

[KoenigViper]

yea i dont get the point of these sport suvs oh yea it goes like a bat out of hell, given enough time, in a straight line but try n take a racing turn in one.

so no they should not be in.
Uh, yes they should. The Mercedes ML63 AMG is one of the best corner handling SUVs on the market.

These performance SUVs only "suck" on corners because of their stance. But they can beat muscle cars from the past, and they can beat a good deal of cars in the game such as the Sky, V6 GT, even the Mustang GTs.

[kmizzle69]

still i dont thynk we should have SUVs because they would have to be download content n if they are gona make more vehicles they should be more rarer n sweet cars like the murcielago lp640, ffx, superbird, yenko camaro, etc...

[xXShadowStrikeX]

As to whether SUVs should or shouldn't be in TDU, it is not for us to decide. We can only speculate and voice our opinions on the topic.

[cornerback1]

I personally think that all of these "THIS HAS TO BE IN TDU!!!!" threads should stop there's no point to them other than adding to what the devs missed when making the game....the game will be great and yet everyone wants better. I myself am guilty of a "THIS BETTER BE IN DLC!!" thread but since then i have rethought my thread and promise not to make an annoying thread like that ever again. But don't start a new thread just to say this should've been in the game, or wouldn't this have been awesome if it was in the game.....try to only post a thread if you have a question or a news update on TDU.

[xXShadowStrikeX]

Yea that BMW thread started by dude14, a few times, doesn't need to be in these forums.

[cornerback1]

i agree

[SVT_MAN]

I personally think that all of these "THIS HAS TO BE IN TDU!!!!" threads should stop there's no point to them other than adding to what the devs missed when making the game....the game will be great and yet everyone wants better. I myself am guilty of a "THIS BETTER BE IN DLC!!" thread but since then i have rethought my thread and promise not to make an annoying thread like that ever again. But don't start a new thread just to say this should've been in the game, or wouldn't this have been awesome if it was in the game.....try to only post a thread if you have a question or a news update on TDU.

I agree.

[Pballace]

Not that i am not satisfied with the product allready but i do think SUV's and trucks would be cool, not for racing but they would be cool vehicles to cruise around the island in.

[bbshepp]

I personally think that all of these "THIS HAS TO BE IN TDU!!!!" threads should stop there's no point to them other than adding to what the devs missed when making the game....the game will be great and yet everyone wants better. I myself am guilty of a "THIS BETTER BE IN DLC!!" thread but since then i have rethought my thread and promise not to make an annoying thread like that ever again. But don't start a new thread just to say this should've been in the game, or wouldn't this have been awesome if it was in the game.....try to only post a thread if you have a question or a news update on TDU.

I agree - Besides, after people had been driving around in Gallardos and F430's and then test drive an SUV :down: I think the cars that are in the game are perfect!:up:

[mercedesfreak18]

read below

[mercedesfreak18]

alot of us want suv's in, but we don't have the controll over it, atari desides, not us, if theyre in, then i would love it, if they're not in, then its terrible...but we can't change their decision.:haha: :haha:

[hucurreyrry@gma]

Uh...that was a really unnecessary double post.

Anyway, the whole idea of the game is that it's open world, you do what you want to do....so, heck, why not put in SUVs and trucks...people like to cruise, people like to offroad...it's all fun...just don't bite down each others throats about it, you're acting like a bunch of little kids. Which some of you may be, but that doesn't mean everyone has to come down to that level.

[foproy]

i think the double post was an accident, and he rectified it by editing his firt post so we would not accidentally read both.

[Ominous Gamer]

i think the double post was an accident, and he rectified it by editing his firt post so we would not accidentally read both.

except they are 3 minutes apart, and all posts come with a built in delete option.

[bigblazer87]

I say there should be a 1987 Chevrolet K5 Blazer 4x4 with the Silverado package. :D

[DaHunter]

if there was to be one i would like to see a 2005 Ford Excursion 4x4, either the V-10 or the turbo diesel model.....

DH

[Cameron H]

For people here stating SUV's or Trucks dont belong in this, I have a word here for you...let me see if I can find it somewhere...oh yes...here it is....WRONG:rolleyes: . There are SEVERAL SUV's that can out do many cars....my favorite example is the SRT-8 Jeep....its hella quick for 1/2 as much as a Cayenne Turbo S...and still does just as good. Infact if the SRT-8 had a Turbo...it would own the Cayenne Turbo S. Im not hating, yes the Cayenne Turbo S is perhaps..eh....more civalized?, more luxurious, and perhaps more capable around the track. But its awesome that there is a N/A SUV for 1/2 the price that can keep up with Porsche's Turboed SUV...and with a hennesey performance upgrade it can own a Lamborghini Gallardo SE, or atleast stay with it :D

[DLfreak]

Anyway, the whole idea of the game is that it's open world, you do what you want to do....so, heck, why not put in SUVs and trucks...people like to cruise, people like to offroad...it's all fun...just don't bite down each others throats about it, you're acting like a bunch of little kids. Which some of you may be, but that doesn't mean everyone has to come down to that level.

Agreed, and considering nobody brought up the point that the map has more grass and hills than roads, as long as they have some offroad advantage I'd love at least one truck/SUV to own in my garage - since beating exotics down makapuu point using the grass is in a fun of its own class :p

[Smallz522]

well you could put a hummer or a navigator or like the chevy tahoe if the ac 2000 is in the game, that things pretty dam slow too

[Ttymcfly]

What they should do is just make suvs DLC. If u do not want one dont download it then its as easy as that. Any one like myself can download them just to cruise around in or go fourbuyin in. I mean grow up a little. your acting like 2 year old babies. I am completely up for it. I think they should add the SRT-8 im up for speed but i also want a gas Guzziling Beast like a hummer or an Expidition. hell since the game is already licensed with GM & Ford why not throw in every SUV they have to offer like Hummers,Expiditions,Suburbans,Escalades and why not mix it up little and license with Jeep,Dodge,Lincoln, and Land Rover. I mean its going to benefit the car company more then us. so i say hell lets bring on the SUVS and Trucks Like The F-series.

[Brown Chaos]

Don't like trucks? Don't buy them. It's not a hard concept...otherwise we should have them.

[Ominous Gamer]

Don't like trucks? Don't buy them. It's not a hard concept...otherwise we should have them.

with that logic, why not waste atari's dwindling funds to add Pintos and SmartCars:rolleyes:

[bigblazer87]

Pintos are cool, but I like Vegas better. And Smart cars are just plain stupid, what the hell is wrong with you?

[Shelby_Guy]

If they did put in SUV's I think one would be the Porsche Cayenne. I heard they are trying to get new licenses for cars that will be released for DLC, so I wouldnt be surprised if Porsche was one of 'em. They also said the licenses they were trying to get were from German manufacturers.

I believe I heard about it from some video on Game Trailers.

[mopar4life]

They should have the Jeep SRT-8 and the Trailblazer SS. Would be a great race.

[Cameron H]

They should have the Jeep SRT-8 and the Trailblazer SS. Would be a great race.

The SRT-8 would win hands down :D Its better in SOOOO many ways. No offence chevy lovers :D Its just the truth...Im not a chrystler fan im a ford fan and Im just telling the truth ;)

[Cameron H]

with that logic, why not waste atari's dwindling funds to add Pintos and SmartCars:rolleyes:

You are just plain retarded. Not everyone thinks like you. I see more and more SUV's everyday. That means PEOPLE LIKE THEM. I dont see smart cars every day....so that must me not very people like them...go smoke more of what you were smoking before you made that comment, im sure your driving a fast car every day:bulb: and I bet that a Jeep SRT-8 could smoke your car, maybe even the slower Chevy SS :O

[Brown Chaos]

Well, consider this as well, you're sitting there in an the Audi A6 for instance, and i pull up in the Cayenne Turbo. Off the line, you're only going to see my rear bumper and mufflers. Not bad for a 5 ton SUV. Considering the Turbo and Turbo S, are probably going to outrun most of the cars in acceleration, and handle damn well for an SUV....

That and pinto's and smarts don't have that kind of power OR speed. Think about it. There are SUV's that can actually scare a Corvette Driver off the line....wouldn't you be scared if you're in a Corvette and you're being TAILED by an SUV on the roads?

So it would be a good add on....so far the car list isn't all that great..still hoping for an NSX as well as the SUVs, BMW's and Porsches.