~~~Problems Finding Friends?/Suggestions to Devs~~~

[mrman44]

So Im sure many have posted on this topic already, but i didnt really see an official one. So here are some problems and suggestions i have for finding friends as it is one of the most important aspects of TDU.

Problems:
1) The filters work fine on the GPS (you can easily filter your friends and see their red car icons on the full map) but they work only half the time when you select one of your friends and warp to them. I have tried many times using trial and error to find the reason, but I have come up with nothing. I can only suppose they are still working out the kinks on the servers (which happened on the 2nd demo) So maybe with some time this will be fixed. But i need to try at least 2 or 3 times before I get connected to a friend. Devs?

2) Its basically pointless to waste all that time to connect with your friends. Because:
a) There is no way to connect to all your friends at once. Instead you have to designate one base player and then spend time telling everyone else that they should spawn at this one person's location.
b) If you do get everyone together and then try to enter a race or go into your house or dealership you lose everyone and have to start all over again. Its basically only good to cruise, but you can only cruise for so long until you want to do some kind of race or look at some cars or go into your house to change you vehicle.

3) The lock feature is pointless as well. Ok so you finally get all your friends on the same road and everyone can see each other. Congrats on that! So you decide to lock them all. Great! Ok, so now no matter how far you all go, you wont lose them as one the 7 people you can see. Fabulous! But again this only counts if every single one in the group does NOT enter a race or house, etc. Once they exit their house, the group is gone, so what the hell is the point of locking on???

4) Sessions - seem just as pointless. Im not even sure what it does or if its working. I thought it might provide a solution to what i said in point 3 above. Meaning it is some kind of MAJOR LOCK that will not only lock onto people while cruising, but will also keep you in the group if you enter a race or house. BUT, no! It doesnt do that. I tried. When i exited the dealership my friend was gone once again and i got connected to 7 other retards yelling at each other.

WHAT TDU DESPERATELY NEEDS:

A working and locking filter. If Im with 3 or 4 or more friends/club members, I want to be able to lock onto them during my entire time on TDU. Just lock onto them once as soon as I load the game. So that those people I want to see will be on my map no matter what they or I are doing. If I enter a dealership and everyone waits outside, I want to see them when I exist. If I enter my house to change cars, I want to see them whether they waited near my house or decided to drive 3 miles away. If I enter my GPS, I want to come back and see everyone again. NO re-locking. So if I have three other friends Im locked to, that would mean there are 4 more spots open for random people to fill. That way I can cruise with my friends and look for others to challenge as a group.

I know this sounds a bit negative and to a point it is. This aspect of the game is what makes it a MOOR. I used to have a problem with the fact that you could only see 7 other people, I have since gotten over that and seen that its not very important to see 20 other people (or more) as I once thought it would be like. Its totally fine and fun with 7. But getting connected and staying connected is what makes seeing 7 just as good as seeing 100. At this point its so hard to stay connected to the people you want to see that it takes 90% of the fun out of the game. Don’t get me wrong TDU is AWESOME! But without these fixes it will become frustrating and unpopular.

If vibroboy or another dev or even some of you TDU players can help or add to this please do. Srry this is so long, I tried to be concise and detailed.

[2JZFAN]

signed.

Someone at Atari/Eden please comment on this.

[PreacherMan23]

I would like to agree with what was said above. I want to be able to group with my friends and chat with them through different aspects of this game. Including shopping and cruising. I hope we get a fix for this.

[Dacksis]

Great post - most of the issues I have seen with trying to hook up with friends are right here. I want to be able to chat with my friends while we are on the island!

Dacksis

[mrman44]

thanks for the posts.

[xxgutterxx]

:up: Signed.

I agree 100%

[Manic D]

I agree completely. Being able to easily find & cruise/race/stay with your friends should be one of the main features of the game, IMO. It's a serious flaw.

[a67ssrs]

Ditto.

[BuzZz Killer]

Not only can I not connect to my friends, but I spent 300k to start a club that my friends can't join just to see if this fixed our problem. Please! Please! A response would be very helpfull.


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[snow8oard101]

all exactly what needs to happen. This should just be a "to be fixed anouncement"

[kainis2k]

I believe Sessions take the group or the players that are locked together and instance them aside from all of the other players... Say for example me and 2 of my friends are locked... Then we create a session. Everyone but the 3 of us will disappear and we will be in out own little world. If this is wrong please correct me but when demo two came out my friend and I tried it and this is what I observed. ;P :cool:

[egavar]

signed. GREAT game...once online issues get fixed up a bit

[SNAKEMANC5]

I also agree with the above posts. Many of us bought this game with the thought of racing with friends in mind. After spending the last 2 hours trying to no avail I decided to check the forums for help. Will someone from Atari please let us know if something is being done to fix this?

[magicfr]

hi,
i'm not in the online part, but i sent this post to the Lead Online guy.

We have a little problem right now that will be corrected soon, server side, on the map you see people that are NOT in freeride session ( N/A written on right of their names in the right banner ), that means if you press (A) button on them, you will not see them, because they are in an offline race or in a shop/car dealers.
We are aware of this problem.
About the lock feature i'dt really know how it's working, so let's wait for Lead Online answer.
regards,

[OutlawXX]

I agree too, and me and my friend were tryin somethin that seemed to work a bit, when we were in the clubhouse, to get outside together we left at the same time, like on 3 u know, and it worked alot, but locking didnt even work at all for us, we had eachother locked and we were just drivin regulary then he just dissapeared for no reason.

Cruises are virtually impossible with it like this, you have a 1 an million chance of gettin a whole group of 8 ppl together, but just hope it fixes with time

[wakedude]

Yeah, I logged in just to talk about that and a couple other things.

My buddy and I had to set up a private chat thru the xbox and not thru the game, because we kept losing each other. Even opening up the map just for a quick look at something, you come back and the guy is gone. And you may have 8 people visible, jump to the map, jump back out and it's down to 1. I had to restart my 360 a couple times because it was like my buddy had locked me out. he could see me, I couldn't see him. A restart would fix it.

I'm on a REAL fast cable connection, 5mbit. And the # of people only hit 8 a couple times. half the time it was 3 and the rest of the time it was just me. Then I would open up the map, and see EVERYONE, I'm basically surrounded on all sides. Close the map.....just me again.

hope this gets fixed, because I spend half my time trying to get my buddy to show up on the screen.

[narklay]

me and my brother live in the same house and we cant even play together its crazy i mean WTH is going on. theres not much more a can say because the other guys said it alreddy. loll but you guys are right 100% Devs we're waiting on you.

[xXShadowStrikeX]

I agree. I thought this game was supposed to have 60 000 player capacity servers?

[mrman44]

we are polishing a patch that will fix lots of things as we discovering problems.
I can already tell you that the problem of finding friends will be fixed as the problem of joining them and lock with them.
The lock/unlock problem occuring when entering a shop will be also fixed.
The last big issue about friends is when you are trying to join a friend that is already with 7 other friends (his friends, or friends of his friends of his friends.. etc.. well you get the idea )
I don't have a firm date for the patch since we want to fix some major bug never seen during the beta phase (like the one corrupting the save game.. we imedialty disabled somthing server side that was part of the bug, but it's an emergency fix, we want to fix it clean).
Also a few problems seen during the demo2 will be fixed in that patch.

So Vibroboy was nice enough to answer this HUGE question. I'll be sure to make public anything further on this issue I as soon as I am aware of it. But this should put your minds at ease. With some time TDU will be so wonderful you'll want to stop - going to school/going to work/eating/going out with you girlfriend/having a social life.

[runtingz]

I agree.

FIX THIS YOUR GAMES SELLING POINT IS FAILING!

[Bridude]

It would be nice to have a refresh option. Say you log in, you have 8 people in your area. Those 8 people would stay with you untill you hit refresh or something.

I can't tell you how many times I've been talking to someone only to get cut off while getting directions or something because I drove out of the area.

An icon to tell us whos speaking would be awesome as well.


Just a thought.

[mrman44]

it seems it will all be fixed...im hoping the lock feature with work no matter where u go (ie into shops, house, dealers)

[woodylobster227]

But the question is when it will get fixed hopefully some time soon.

[runtingz]

i have yet to have 8 cars around me in this game that ARE NOT A.I...the whole online feature is really horrible..they really need to fix this this is one the reasons why i got the game

like i said

FIX IT ATARI ITS YOUR MAIN SELLING POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

and why the heck does it pick up one person less than 700 yards near me and the rest of the people (which is only an extra 3 people) are 1.something miles away? im officially pissed and going on a rant

[Andrewistheman]

ok they need alot to fix i thought there was gona be a better filter system and today this whole day i cant connect to attari servers to play online wich isthe gayest thing it just says attari server not found WTF is this ! does nay oen get this messege all my other xbox live games work EXCEPT wit h this one TDU worked fine yeasturday and today is acting up

[kwhy]

probably way too late, but...

How about also creating a quick menu system (sort of a *friends* list and *recent players list* inside TD) with a list of ALL player names sorted by when you raced or saw them last. Make the list so a players name is added immediately when they appear on the same server as you or when you race them.

Throw in various filters/options to show on that list only friend names/ people you've raced /racers you've lost too/ won too/ people you marked as not liking/ people you liked/ ect..

Then allow players to sort or select names on that list such as SHOW FIRST / NO SHOW / BLOCK / ALWAYS ALLOW LOCK / NEVER ALLOW LOCK ...ect.

Then if you would allow players to be able to QUICKLY pull up and scroll threw this list so they can select players they want to try to re-connect to.

so lets say I'm joining TDU and right off 4 players are around me the players names would immediately be added to that list. So on the list I would have

.....
.....
PLAYER1
PLAYER2
PLAYER3
PLAYER4

So if lets say I'm driving around with PLAYER2, but suddenly he drops off my server or I'm unable to see him I then could pull up the list and would show the last 10 players I've been connected with ect... I just highlight the name PLAYER2 and hopefully it finds or reconnects or shows them on my map again.

the possibilities are endless on what could be done with a list like this.

[BlackZ06]

I believe they put the servers down so that they can fix all these problems. But I'm glad they are working on it because the multiplayer in its current state is the worst I've seen in any game.

[stikkimikki87]

yes, i just want to vent here, i spent over a hour with my buddy, in the same spot on the map, saw his lil red thing on my map, but he was never on the screen at the same time as me ever, but yet he was in the same place, and then we went to a multiplayer race and they worked great? what gives? at least that part works but i want to free roam dangit! lol....im off the soap box but i hope they fix it quickly, but i do think its kinda lame because they SHOULD have tested all of this before release and produced a better product, but hell at least the game is out lol

[Hate Theory]

Sessions= ISO so you only see the players you locked in.
Also with my game I can't use friend finder in filter I have to use player finder. My friends don't show up on friend in filter only player so I have to private chat my friends than we pick like a the ford shop or something than we all tele there so we can find each other.

Also I thought maybe since lock don't work right create a race for you and your friend now just drive around in race and never finsh race , Reverse sign probly pops up, I don't know if you can turn it off but you could just turn volume down on tv.

[Aussie]

This should be stickied to make sure the devs see it.

[Z4cHMioFF]

This should be stickied to make sure the devs see it.

I mentioned this thread in my thread. Go look; *OFFICIAL Bugs/Suggestions Thread*.

[utopiate]

I'm logged into live, I can see when people on my friends list get online, but as far as TDU is concerned there is no connection...ever. The closest post I've found so far is about not always having a connection to the server. I could connect in the demo, but after playing for 3 days, around 16 or 17 hours, there has not been one instance where I was connected to the server...nobody else appears in my game aside from the AI drivers. I know its not my system or network connection, like I said, the system is connected, I can access the marketplace from the pause menu, but not trade or buy.

Is anyone else having this issue, or something closer than sometime's not getting a connection?

And for the developers: is the patch going to address the issue of not being able to connect to the servers at all? If the 360 is connected, and the player is logged into xbox live then game should have no problem connecting.

[opsixdelta]

yeah crusing the island with my friends is actually the reason i got the game, not even real interested in the racing part so much. either way i am glad to hear they are working on it. if eden games fixes this problem......this will be one of the best racing games of all time in my book.

[mrman44]

since a bunch of people have been posting read up on this one.

[Alsybub]

I created this account just so thatI can say:

When locked to a friend(s) it needs to be that when you view the map, enter a shop or any other establishment (apart from races) then you should not EVER be disconnected!

It's such a headache that once locked we cannot then view the map in order to put a GPS placement or view anything else.

A quick view of the map and you locked friends are all gone and it's all so easy to press right on the D-Pad instead of left to lock each other.

This is giving me massive headaches and the shine is beginning to go a bit.

Please, please, please sort this out.

[EJIRO]

Signed.

I acknowledge that MOO games are a beast to get working properly and it will probably take some time before the devs iron out the servers and stabilize the loads.

However I still must add my voice to this thread as I paid for the game based on the very concept that I could find my friends online and free roam with them to my hearts content.

So far, that has not happened. Not even once for a second. The servers are way too messed up and the lag is horrid. People phasing in and out of trees, bouncing down the roads like rabbits. Ugh.

I shall patiently wait for the devs to straighten it out.

Otherwise, great game!... or at least the potential to become one ;)

-Ejiro

[Alsybub]

Yeah. This game is possibly my favourite LIVE experience since Halo 2. So it shows just how much potential it really has once the creases have been ironed out.

I'm completely hooked even with these issues!

[quaggo]

I truly love TDU...but..this is a major flaw that can cripple the success of this game and turn many first time users away. I know that I quit playing for a long time and almost sold the game because it was so dissapointing. The xbox is built around communicty and friends and here we have a "massively" multiplayer game that can't even allow you to form proper, working, usable groups or parties? MAJOR FLAW, is this ALPHA or BETA software I paid for? The game is great guys, keep the content and fixes coming..but PLEASE..fix the grouping/freeride issues. Also, it's very confusing on how sessions and freerides are supposed to work. I have to dig on these forums just to get fragments of how it should work, nothing official from Atari other than a very lame example in the game manual.

Any Massively Multiplayer game depends on community and groups. Please allow that to not be the downfall of this game.

Thanks,

--Quaggo

[BruNasty]

Well put, and I can tell by the popularity of the responses, you summed it up perfectly. Devs/anyone at Atari please take heed. PLEASE!! Server upgrade time!!!!:up: :up:

[emperor413]

signed :)