Vodhin's Cafe Kit - Updated Release 11/2/06

[Vodhin]

http://www.vodhin.org/e107/e107_files/downloadimages/VodhinCafe.jpg



EDIT: 6/10/08 - download link fixed


**** Previously ****

Hi all! I've had a busy Sunday afternoon putting together this little set of Cafe tables. Well, actually, two so far. I have no idea what I will be adding to this set other than a few tables and chairs, maybe something like a desert trolley or something. Check out the pics of this one table so far:

The second table (not shown yet) is simply the same model with different flowers and the chairs are spaced a quarter turn around the table instead of opposite each other. The metal parts are recolorable (along with the seat cushon and napkin fold), but the light is not colorable. Making the light colorable causes the textures to become severly messed up, so I will leave it as is.



Download Link Updated 6/10/08 - click here (http://www.vodhin.org/e107/request.php?347)



:D

[LuckyGirl]

Holy crap! :eek:
Is this what you hinted at? Looks gorgeous Vodhin!!!

[coinich]

Wow. Nice job.

[hotroddude]

wow that looks great! i love those chairs! :D

[Belgabor]

Holy matrimony, how did you get the peeps to sit on there? And how the way they sit on it?

[Vodhin]

Holy crap! :eek: [QUOTE]
/\ This is kinda what I expected from the community, but not from you :D You've done stuff just as detailed as these...

[QUOTE=coinich;8004397]Wow. Nice job.
wow that looks great! i love those chairs! :D
Thank you :noob:

Holy matrimony, how did you get the peeps to sit on there? And how the way they sit on it?
What? We're trusting you to make the next importer and you don't know about this? Where have you been, young man! :weird:

[Belgabor]

What? We're trusting you to make the next importer and you don't know about this? Where have you been, young man! :weird:

Yeah, I kow about peep points :p
I'm interested in the details. Does it need to be a bench? How do you get them to twist (eg the left girl in the first pic)?

[grod4L]

WOW!! Top-notch work there Vodhin! Those cafe tables are simply beautiful! They'd be an awesome addition to any park. Way to go! :up:

[coinich]

I wonder what kind of odd, twisted things I can do with that table. Are the chairs add ons, or are the tables and chairs one piece?

[Orion]

:haha:I like the first pic, I smell lesbos! LOL! Anyways this set looks freakin' awesome! Great Work you insane creator!:haha:

[CoasterSim.Fan]

Wow not to sure what to say it looks so realistic.

[-NGS-]

Looks great so far. I'd love to see a host/hostess table if you don't mind. :bounce:

[Bitter Jeweler]

Excellent work V.

I am amazed at all the things you have figured out. Especially to get the peeps to sit on the seats. :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[BoRJoYZeE]

Vodhin, your making RCT 3 even better!

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

oh crap!! this is awesome!

[Vodhin]

Yeah, I kow about peep points :p
I'm interested in the details. Does it need to be a bench? How do you get them to twist (eg the left girl in the first pic)?
Bench settings all around (First entry puts the scenery in the Path Extras menu, then you use the Bench setting in under Extra Parameters along with the other settings. Here is my SID file for it: Link (http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/HowTo/VodhinsTableSets.sid)). Peeps rotate counter clockwise around their toes, so you have to kinda guess where the toes are (Half a MilkShape square is the length of their foot- but the legs are bent a bit).

The Bench setting triggers built in animation: When 2 peeps are on the same bench (the entire table/chairs set in this case) it makes them face one another and chat. Since you fixed the normals in your importer, I noticed that they now face each other instead of away- I'll have to go back and fix the ones in the Vermont set, cause they face away on those benches...

I wonder what kind of odd, twisted things I can do with that table. Are the chairs add ons, or are the tables and chairs one piece?
Hopefully some good stuff! Each piece has a table, two chairs, and the table settings as one piece. It attaches to the edge of a path as the regular benches do, but they are offset out of the path and there is enough room to plant all kinds of small goodies in the area- see below. I will be adding larger tables with separate chair sets, along with other goodies.

:haha:I like the first pic, I smell lesbos! LOL! Anyways this set looks freakin' awesome! Great Work you insane creator!:haha:
I'm not crazy... Just nuts! :noob:

Looks great so far. I'd love to see a host/hostess table if you don't mind. :bounce:
I kinda know what you're talking about. Pop up a pic so I know for sure...

Excellent work V...I am amazed at all the things you have figured out. Especially to get the peeps to sit on the seats. :up: :up: ...
Bitter! How the heck are you! Thank you for all that you've given us, too! You've been a great innovator here and an inspiriation to all of us! I thank you! :D

And a big thanks to all for the compliments- it keeps me goin...


**Update**

Here's a couple of more shots, now including the 2nd table. The 2nd table is a little bit lower (I wanted to see if it looked better), has different flowers, and I lowered the backs of the chairs. Take a look:

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic04.JPG

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic05.JPG

All that's left for these table is a little adjustments to the peep placements and they're ready to get.



More To Come :D

[Pasaway]

Vodhin! Thats BEAUTIFUL work you got done! Will this have a trial pack also? :)

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

wow....this is so amazing..

[-NGS-]

I kinda know what you're talking about. Pop up a pic so I know for sure...
Had some trouble finding a pic. It's the podium they stand at with menus and utensils.

[Teirmose]

Ahhhh...http://img276.echo.cx/img276/2627/shocked11zh.gif

I mean... http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1562/wow12xe.gif

You keep amazing me. I http://img276.echo.cx/img276/6858/hearteyes11ak.gif love these tables/chairs.

As always, I'm looking forward to you next surprise, but please don't make it anything like this.
http://img269.echo.cx/img269/5066/flasherhi9hw.gif http://img213.echo.cx/img213/6228/hehe0ic.gif

[Six Flags]

Truly A-mazing :eek: You own!!

[mikeyca]

Vodhin, this is beautiful and brilliant! The first set of pics were breathtaking already, but I was going to ask if it was possible to bring the height of the table down just a bit--but you did that already in the second set! BRAVO!!! :up: :up:

[Vodhin]

Here's the first download (http://www.vodhin.net/RCT3Community/download.php?view.347) :D Just the two tables for now. The peeps kinda sit in the right spots, but not as good as I'd like. Future updates will have them sitting correctly. These tables will stay without change, so it's safe to place in parks today. Please keep in mind this these are higher polygon objects (480 triangles and 536 triangles respectively) and might increase lag during gameplay.

These Cafe Tables will appear in the Path Extras menu (with all the other benches) and are recolorable. Enjoy!

More To Come :D

[Cptn. Skipjack]

Fantastic! :up::up:

[mikeyca]

[URL="http://www.vodhin.net/RCT3Community/download.php?view.347"]Please keep in mind this these are higher polygon objects (480 triangles and 536 triangles respectively) and might increase lag during gameplay.
Awesome--I can't believe you're already done with these! Question...approx. what is the poly count like on other objects? I don't know too much about the current custom scenery out there, so can you think of current objects that are around the same triangle count as these new tables? I'm curious how much lag I'll be adding specifically to my own park compared to what I already have in the park. Thanks for such awesome creations!!!

[Vodhin]

There's really no way to tell. You could count the faced you can see and multiply by two (each fave is made of 2 triangles). If the object is optimized by removing unseen faces and using other tricks, then that becomes more difficult.

In this set- the table legs are only 8 triangles because I used4 2D planes with an image of the leg on them. I could have use only 2 but the "plane sandwich" is a nice trick to add some sense of depth (look at the wheels of a coaster sometime).

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/HowTo/Pic_Table1.JPG

The chair legs, however, needed to be 3D because I couldn't get a 2D plane to bend correctly and not distort the image. The legs are made from 3 sided cylinders, though, instead of 4 sided box tubes. Cylinders are the best piece to start from, especially if you leave the ends unclosed, since you have the most options available for shaping. Looking back, I realize I should have used a single 2D plane with transparent scetions for the chair backs... next time I will :D

**Edit** Peep rotations are better now, same download as above: Minor Update (http://www.vodhin.net/RCT3Community/download.php?view.347)

[errt]

Great work, Vodhin. Another download can be found at www.rct3-cso.net.tc (http://www.rct3-cso.net.tc)

[sjeskie007]

ty fore your nice work this is realy usefoll for me walt disney brussel park

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

question....they are all......um....can't believe I forgot the word....um.....oh yeah! scenery detection is off right?

[RCT-Spanky]

What an excellent stuff ... I can't thank you enough for this new set. You surprising us everytime again.

If you plan to expand this, can I request a table with a (larger) table clothing for an elegance restaurant and with upholstered seats, please? Also a counter with some cakes would be fine. And/or a shelf with some bottles of good wine.

[StayingDead]

Woah Vodhin these are awsome. i actually hope you keep the way the peeps sit in the first way, It looks much like people sit in real cafes o.O, anyway i can now finnaly do my outdoor cafe for my park :P. Well done again Vodhin.

[rctmaniac]

very nice!

[COLA_FREEK]

In your pictures, the fancey railings, are they realesed yet? I think i saw a tread about them but cant find them now :(

[°Celsius]

yes, finally i can get those booths

[wabigbear]

In your pictures, the fancey railings, are they realesed yet? I think i saw a tread about them but cant find them now :(


I think those are Vodin's Ironwork Trellis set HERE (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=526998)


Gorgeous set Vodin! These are just unbelievable (so I'll download and believe...:haha: ) Thank you so much!

[rctlil'man]

WOW great job its incredible. but thats what we expect from you

[COLA_FREEK]

This Set is Awsome! Do you have any more ideas yet on what else will be in this set?

[Eletigna]

Congratulations once again by these useful and idyllic items, Vodhin :up:

I would be thankful that you began a new thread with images to explain step by step and of simple form like doing so that peeps sit down in benchs as well as to create custom billboards so that it understands everybody it. ;)

P.S: Thanks for your PM. I will often visit that page. :noob:

[marnetmar]

This is another much needed set Vodhin :up: :up: Keep up the excellent work ;)

[Vodhin]

I think those are Vodin's Ironwork Trellis set HERE (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=526998) ...Gorgeous set Vodin! These are just unbelievable (so I'll download and believe...:haha: ) Thank you so much!

Wait before you download- I'm actually fixing the Ironwork Trellis set (now that I got the alphas to behave better)


Congratulations once again by these useful and idyllic items, Vodhin :up: ...I would be thankful that you began a new thread with images to explain step by step and of simple form like doing so that peeps sit down in benchs as well as to create custom billboards so that it understands everybody it. ;) ...P.S: Thanks for your PM. I will often visit that page. :noob:

It is as simple as making a light, only harder :noob: The main thing is to have the correct SID settings. Peep rotation is the other annoying issue- just when you think you know where the peep's axis is, another peep comes along and seems to have a completely different axis point. My latest study seems to point at the left toe as the most likely axis point. I wish I has a 'dummy' model for this purpose... hmmmm... I think I'll make one!

When I have more info of peep effect points, I'll put together some base files and a tutorial. Hope to see you around ;)

This Set is Awsome! Do you have any more ideas yet on what else will be in this set?

A few have been presented here that I like and I think I'll add 'cozy' booth style seating. I'd also like to figure out some of the other peep interaction scenery- I think I found a "kissing" spot. Not sure yet...

[Belgabor]

Wait before you download- I'm actually fixing the Ironwork Trellis set (now that I got the alphas to behave better)

Ah, what did you find out on alphas?


It is as simple as making a light, only harder :noob: The main thing is to have the correct SID settings. Peep rotation is the other annoying issue- just when you think you know where the peep's axis is, another peep comes along and seems to have a completely different axis point. My latest study seems to point at the left toe as the most likely axis point. I wish I has a 'dummy' model for this purpose... hmmmm... I think I'll make one!

Hm, did you try rotating the peep point around other axises? Might be interesting/funny.


A few have been presented here that I like and I think I'll add 'cozy' booth style seating. I'd also like to figure out some of the other peep interaction scenery- I think I found a "kissing" spot. Not sure yet...
:D

[Vodhin]

Ah, what did you find out on alphas? ...Hm, did you try rotating the peep point around other axises? Might be interesting/funny. :D

I did...
http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/HowTo/Pic_BenchTest03.jpg

As for Alphas... well, I never listen, do I? Marnetmar and a host of other folks had suggested using the SIAlphaMask setting and, well, that's what works. Just erode your edges on the Alpha image and Dialate the edges of the main image (both about 5 to 10%).

Also- if you are using a solid color in your alpha object, you need only the Alpha to cut it out of a solid color tecture in the main- like a cookie cutter. That's how I made the Trellis set a while back and I've been pulling that trick ever since. Just be sure that your alpha texture and your main solid color are the same size.

[shyguy]

Awesome stuff!

This blows my tables off the map. :cry:

[Soda Jerk 205]

holy wow. Those look amazing, such a great touch to a park.

[Curtis-Rohde]

Woah! This is going to be extremly helpful! Thank you!!:up:

[Vodhin]

Working on a nice Gas Lamp for this set :D

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic06.JPG

A little bit of texture mapping and size adjustment and it will be ready :D

[callmecosmo]

Vodhin - I get a smile on my face everytime I log in and see that you have created a new thread or scenery set. Keep up the good work. I love the Vermont set and can't wait to see where you take us with you sets. Keep up the amazing work!

[Cyberleader]

Wonderful! Strides in custom scenery are being taken NOW!

[coinich]

Will there be a version of this with the table and chairs as one set? Nice job, btw.

[Pate]

those pics are B-E-A-UTIFUL!!!
can't wait..and i mean CAN'T WAIT for it's release!!!:up::up:

[RCT-Spanky]

The new gas-lamp looks great, like the color very much. BTW: I have forget to thank you for the wall-mounted version of the new parklamp (saw it on the last picture and reminds me, that I want to thank you for this) and it wouldbe fine, if you can make a wall mounted version of your new gas-lamp too.

Wait before you download- I'm actually fixing the Ironwork Trellis set (now that I got the alphas to behave better)

Did you have fix it yet?

Oh ... thanks for the quick answer via PM. I have overseen the frame for the doors and they look okay in my building.

[Vodhin]

Vodhin - I get a smile on my face everytime I log in and see that you have created a new thread or scenery set. Keep up the good work. I love the Vermont set and can't wait to see where you take us with your sets. Keep up the amazing work!
I will :D


Wonderful! Strides in custom scenery are being taken NOW!
What? Where?! :p

Will there be a version of this with the table and chairs as one set? Nice job, btw.
The tables and chairs are one set... If you mean separate pieces- a set of chairs, a table, different accoutriments - then, yes... there will be some 'interesting pieces

those pics are B-E-A-UTIFUL!!!
can't wait..and i mean CAN'T WAIT for it's release!!!:up::up:
I assume you mean the Gas Lamp, since the tables are already out for download... The gas lamps will be added to the download between 9/28-9/29.

The new gas-lamp looks great, like the color very much... if you can make a wall mounted version of your new gas-lamp too.

[re:trellis set] Did you have fix it yet?

The gas lamp will be recolorable once I get the texture working. There will be wall and hanging/ceiling versions.

As for the trellis set... Yes, and no: I got the transparancy working as I want to, but I want to add to it and I will:

The Trellis Set will be discontinued! and the updated sections will move into the updated Cafe set. I have learned a lot in the past few months since I made the Trellis set and have found a better way to make the pieces. You can keep the trellis set in your current installations for your existing parks. The new pieces will not upset things- you will just end up with duplicate sections in two different lists. I wil not be updating the trellis set.

More to come :D

[shyguy]

I can't wait for the new trellises and I hope they'll be available soon. The very last thing in Phase Four of Wonder World will be Southern Plantation Restaurant, and I'm hoping to use them.

But take your time. I can put of finishing Phase Four for as long as it takes. No big deal. My thread can just lie dormant until you release your trellises. That's okay. I can use another break. I can just sit back and take it easy. No hurry...

But don't blame me if the Wonder World "groupies" riot. :p

[RCT-Spanky]

The Trellis Set will be discontinued! and the updated sections will move into the updated Cafe set.
That sounds great for me. I'm happy that I've haven't use the trellis-set not too much in my current project.

But take your time. I can put of finishing Phase Four for as long as it takes. No big deal. My thread can just lie dormant until you release your trellises. That's okay. I can use another break. I can just sit back and take it easy. No hurry...
Maybe we can again talk about Melons in your thread ... until you can finish this part :p

[mikeyca]

The gas lamp will be recolorable once I get the texture working. There will be wall and hanging/ceiling versions.
The new gas lamp is beautiful Vodhin! You mentioned the gas lamp will be recolorable--does that mean that the lamp ITSELF will be recolorable, or the light coming from the lamp? I'm really hoping that you managed to make the light from the gas lamp similar to the flickering orange glow effect of the torch lamps... *crossing fingers*

[Vodhin]

I can't wait for the new trellises and I hope they'll be available soon. The very last thing in Phase Four of Wonder World will be Southern Plantation Restaurant, and I'm hoping to use them...
Maybe today? I just go a whole bunch of new textures :D

The new gas lamp is beautiful Vodhin! You mentioned the gas lamp will be recolorable--does that mean that the lamp ITSELF will be recolorable, or the light coming from the lamp? I'm really hoping that you managed to make the light from the gas lamp similar to the flickering orange glow effect of the torch lamps... *crossing fingers*

I have been unsuccessful at getting the particle effect to show through glass or alphas. I will be using an amber colored light source that will not be changable. The lamp post will be. :D

[Pate]

Ok, i didn't saw the download post, maybe you should post the link at the first post.
You're great Vodhin, lots of thanks!!:up::up:

[°Celsius]

so ah, any pictures of those booths? i know there hidein somewhere, great set so far, those cafe type table and chairs are really nice

[Vodhin]

Ok, i didn't saw the download post, maybe you should post the link at the first post... You're great Vodhin, lots of thanks!!:up::up:
Thanks :D I'll add the link to the fist post.

so ah, any pictures of those booths? i know there hidein somewhere, great set so far, those cafe type table and chairs are really nice
No booths yet, got sidetracked with new knowledge on alpha texturing :D


*** Update ***

Here's a peek at my new Iron Trellis walls that will be included with the Cafe Set.:

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic07.JPG

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic08.JPG

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic09.JPG


There's still a bit of work to do on the texture to flesh it out a bit more, but you can get the feel of what I'm making here. The set will have walls and ornimates, and roof trusses. If I get a good ivy texture, or something like morning glories... :D

[El Toro]

Looks excellent! Vodhin your a genius :D

[Novix]

much better V! keep up the good work :D

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

wow! great job! hope to oneday be half as good with custom scenery asd you!

[DisneyFREAK1178]

Very VERY! Good It looks like it will fit so amazingly with a Paris themed park lol

[jerseygrl]

Vodhin, you and Shyguy are hereby crowned as Virtual Master Carpenters. Eat your heart out, Norm!

[Coaster Freak]

It looks great! Im downloading it now!

[Aceana]

I'm sure it's great, but I can't see any of your pictures.

[Vodhin]

I'm sure it's great, but I can't see any of your pictures.

What happens if you click on these links? do you get the pics or do you get an error? If you get an error, tell me exactly what it is and perhaps I can fix it.

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic00.JPG
http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic01.JPG
http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic02.JPG
http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic03.JPG
http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic04.JPG
http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic05.JPG
http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic06.JPG
http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic07.JPG
http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic08.JPG
http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic09.JPG

[rctlil'man]

I get pics Vohin

and thanks again for this set. hope you continue doing custom scenery for a long time. I dont know about everyone but I greatly apreceate it and i wish i had a way to repay you

[osudenny]

I do also get pics that is. No error message here

[callmecosmo]

All I see is lovely pics as well, not error messages for me!

[cp_diva]

Yet another superb set from Vodhin. You have "taken the bull by the horns and ran". I'm assuming that in the time when custom scenery first started showing up, you started researching to perfect your skills?!? Well, you've succeeded!

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

what do I get when I click? I get awesome photos of another awesome Custom Scenery set by Vodhin.

[STITCH!]

This looks awsome, can't wait for the official set.

[osudenny]

This set looks outstanding as always!! Great Job Vodhin!!!

[STITCH!]

I'm already planning what I'm going to do with this.

[Jag100]

Amazing stuff vodhin :eek2:

[Cyberleader]

I get pics! :D

[GBM]

Vodhin,

Downloaded your CafeKit but didn't work at all. I tried re-booting my computer after installation but same thing happened. The file went to the right category but it shows no photo at all.

Anyway, I thank you (and luckygirl, usf geeks n' maretmar) for your ArchKit, Luckygirls Harbor set (except that the harbor light doesn't work in my RCT3/computer, maretmars leftoverz and USf geeks steps and stones, which were all downloaded from your site. They are all surely of great help esp. I'm new to these stuff and working on my first park. I work on my park while I'm doing my laundry and my boys and husband are all asleep. Great past time for a mom like me!

gator tampa

[birou006]

Do you need wild! for this set because it didn't work for me. The game freezed every time I tried to open the set.


Thanks

-birou006

[davidcon]

Do you need wild! for this set because it didn't work for me. The game freezed every time I tried to open the set.


Thanks

-birou006

If you open the file, you'll see a folder and a word document. It's just that one folder that goes in the /themed section.

[GBM]

I think, Ive got Wild with Soakes expansion pack called RCT3 Gold.

[GBM]

I'll try ur suggestion david.

[Vodhin]

Vodhin, Downloaded your CafeKit but didn't work at all. I tried re-booting my computer after installation but same thing happened. The file went to the right category but it shows no photo at all...

Do you need wild! for this set because it didn't work for me. The game freezed every time I tried to open the set. Thanks -birou006


Come to think of it... yes, you do need Wild or at least the latest updates (which gives you billboards and custom stalls and such). Why? I realise now that this set uses the SIAlphaDS which I don't think was available until Wild got programmed- It might be something else...

Make sure that your Themed directory has VodhinsCafeKit -exactly like that. In that folder should be the TableSets folder and the style.unique.ovl style.common.ovl files. Delete the readme file if it is there (it shouldn't cause problems, but who knows?). If you only see another folder for VodhinsCafeKit then it is installed incorrectly. Delete and try again.

Make sure that you have No ZIP files in any RCT3 directory. This will cause problems, too.

I will be updating this set soon enough,probably by this weekend....

[Hilander]

This set is realy going to be a great addition to all of you fantastic sets Vodhin :D

[GBM]

Come to think of it... yes, you do need Wild or at least the latest updates (which gives you billboards and custom stalls and such). Why? I realise now that this set uses the SIAlphaDS which I don't think was available until Wild got programmed- It might be something else...

Make sure that your Themed directory has VodhinsCafeKit -exactly like that. In that folder should be the TableSets folder and the style.unique.ovl style.common.ovl files. Delete the readme file if it is there (it shouldn't cause problems, but who knows?). If you only see another folder for VodhinsCafeKit then it is installed incorrectly. Delete and try again.

Make sure that you have No ZIP files in any RCT3 directory. This will cause problems, too.

I will be updating this set soon enough,probably by this weekend....

Vodhin,

No prob in installation except there were no pics.

thanks.

[Vodhin]

Vodhin, No prob in installation except there were no pics. thanks.

Oh... Are you talking about the icons? I haven't made them yet ;)



**** New Items Coming ***

Add a little elegance to your Cafe with some nice, re-colorable table cloths:

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic11.JPG

Great for dressing up any eatery! :D But what should your guests have? Sometime a buffet is the perfect solution, where your guests can pick and choose what they would like to have for supper: We'll find out :D


More To Come...

[reillysix]

That's one happy peep in that last screen. :P

[Six Flags]

OMG :eek:

[wabigbear]

Now THIS is a great addition! Where's the dessert cart? :p

[Guybrush_47]

that is fantastic. I'd change that marble texture though, it doesn't look good when tiled. Small detail, it would be great it you could come up with a very simple spoon model, and lob 1 or 2 in the dishes. Perhaps also hanging them up on the end of the wooden lighting? I'm also hoping you'll make a few plate models, perhaps a stack of like 20 plates, so we can put them on a table nearby?

[Vodhin]

What?! No comments on the table cloths?! I spent ages on them! :p hehehe...

The Buffet bar is just one of now 3 pieces that click together to form a nice lunch counter, or stand alone as seperate counter sections. There are stacks of dishes, cups, and trays on an adjoining piece (which also serves as a custom stall counter cover). I should have more pics up later today :D

[sr3d]

Wow great stuff Vodin i lobve your packs Vermont give's me so many idea's for my park :|

[PvHooijdonk]

What?! No comments on the table cloths?! I spent ages on them! :p hehehe...

...

I couldn't possibly comment, as I am just speechless ... :eek:
Just looking at this restaurant stuff makes me hungry :D

[Jag100]

The Buffet bar looks tasty :p

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

Wow! I love the buffet bar! I've been waiting for something like that! I love it! Also, your still makin' those booths right?

[RCT-Spanky]

I like the new table clothes very much, can't wait to use them in the Far Far Away Castle-Restaurant (this park is not canceled, just on hold).

I hope you don't have forget the counter for the cakes? :)

[Guybrush_47]

I like the new table clothes very much, can't wait to use them in the Far Far Away Castle-Restaurant (this park is not canceled, just on hold).

I hope you don't have forget the counter for the cakes? :)

Forget cakes, where the alcohol!!!

[Cyberleader]

One, single word may be able to sum this up I think...Quality!

[sjeskie007]

i think i have a new idee for me mainstreet

looks great vodhin can not w8 for yousing it in me mainstreet

[GBM]

Awesome!

[larry241]

Wow. The table cloths are genius. Love the patterns on them too! I like how you can see the legs underneath still also. The buffet is amazing. Do peeps interact with it? Nice touch even if they can't. Can't wait to see more!

[RCT-Spanky]

Forget cakes, where the alcohol!!!

Ask this guy :p
http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/HowTo/Pic_BenchTest03.jpg

[Curtis-Rohde]

Woah! that buffet looks just like the ones you see in real life! Amazing!!! One thing that would be really cool for the set: Folded napkins (like the oragami ones)

[rctlil'man]

i agree and have some of those high chairs racks

[Guybrush_47]

Ask this guy :p
http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/HowTo/Pic_BenchTest03.jpg

lol, if that was real life, you'd only find one shoe though.

For the record, why do they ALWAYS leave behind a single shoe?!!?!

[coinich]

Better question. Why do you only find one shoe on the road and never the other?

Nice job. I really like this.

[Vodhin]

Better question. Why do you only find one shoe on the road and never the other? ...

Look up on the power lines... ;)

****

Update: The Buffet Sections are coming together nicely:

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic12.JPG

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic13.JPG

This is going to be a really neat set- I have... plans.


More To Come :D

[wabigbear]

Oh

My

Gawd....

:eek:

[°Celsius]

I cant wait

*cough*Booths*cough*

[rctlil'man]

it would be very cool if you would make some extention pieces for the bar to make it longer and another one that is just one sided

[infiniteblue]

I'm liking that buffet, Vodhin! I can see hundreds of uses for this in any park I can make.

[CoasterSim.Fan]

Wow that looks great. This is going to be a great set. It nice to see you really in to custom scenery again your work is always so good.

[shaun allsop]

Fantastic work as allways. So how many game designers have bribed you for a job, If they havnt they dam well should

[Belgabor]

it would be very cool if you would make some extention pieces for the bar to make it longer and another one that is just one sided
I don't know about a one sided one, but knowing Vodhin I'm pretty sure what you see above is probably a center piece and two end pieces =)

[Vodhin]

it would be very cool if you would make some extention pieces for the bar to make it longer and another one that is just one sided
The buffet bar will have a variety of pieces, the most complex and detailed is the Hot Food Station you see above (but still only at 512 triangles- less than my New York Lamps).

I cant wait *cough*Booths*cough*
I got some lozenges here somewhere... ;)



***Important ***

The pre-release Small Tables have changed- the new versions will not automatically appear in your existing parks!

I'm using a new technique for making the Cafe Set pieces that will (hopefully) decrease lag, but may also make the set incompatible with earlier versions of RCT3. If you haven't updated your RCT3 with the latest patches then this set may not work.

Asside from using double sided Alphas and Opaques, I'm relying heavily on using texture OVL files- instead of each piece having it's own texture set, these pieces get their texture patterns from a master file. From what I understand, this may make a little lag when placing the first piece of a subset (like the Buffet sections), but the rest should place normally and there should be less resources needed to draw each one.

So far, I have not witnessed any more drop in frame rate if I place one or fifty New Small Tables- as opposed to a noticable drop (down by 18 FPS) when placing as many of the old tables and chairs.

Between this new optimized scenery design and plans for other pieces in the set, I realized that I needed to alter the existing tables- enough so that that the old tables had to go by-by... But on the bright side, the silverware on the new tables is nice and shiny now :D


More To Come...

[Belgabor]

When I told you about the lag I was referring to a 12 Mb texture ovl that contains 10 1024x1024 textures =)
Iirc my snowset has only a litte lag beyond the normal if any more at all (1.5 Mb texture ovl with 6 512x512 textures).

[tobor49]

I think that with great scenery like this, we are going to start seeing
less amusement parks and more village or street scenes.

I am kind of getting tired of the same old rides and I am starting to get into
more detailed scenes like a recreation of a small village or even a nice street
scene with resturants and shops.

That is until Vodhin figures out animation and we get new rides.

Its just my opinion, I may be wrong.

[Belgabor]

The step from animation to new rides is probably larger than from static scenery to animation...

[shyguy]

I think that with great scenery like this, we are going to start seeing
less amusement parks and more village or street scenes.



This won't be called Rollercoaster Tycoon anymore. It'll be Earth Tycoon! :p

This is wonderful stuff, Vodhin! Your making such huge strides. (and leaving some of us in the dust)

[sjeskie007]

realy nice work vodhin!!! can't whate for this set

[birou006]

Where did you get those windows from your latest pictures???

[The_Cook]

Where did you get those windows from your latest pictures???

They're part of the Colonial Wall Set that Frontier supply. However I can't remember if it's part of Vanilla, Soaked or Wild.

[coinich]

Im gonna say Wild!, as I don't have it and I have never seen those windows in game before.

[rctlil'man]

yes that is the Colonial Wall Set that comes with wild

[sjeskie007]

any more details of your great, nice, amazing, fantastisch,... set vodhin?

[hotroddude]

Amazing work on the new peices! i can see this being in all sorts of parks!

but one question...did you make these curved railings, or are they from a different set?
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3076/pic12lw9.jpg


once again Amazing work! :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[rctlil'man]

Those are from the New Orleans or Whatever set

[hotroddude]

^there's a new orleans set?

[errt]

They're from the Iron Work-Set (http://errt.ebytehost.com/phpBB2/downloads.php?view=detail&id=31)

[Vodhin]

They're from the Iron Work-Set (http://errt.ebytehost.com/phpBB2/downloads.php?view=detail&id=31)

Nope :D These are brand new pieces with entirely new models and textures- They will be included in this, the Cafe set (as I plan it now- that might change depending on what I make)

I have been slowly making extra pieces for this set, but time is now very limited as I have a second job that takes up even more of my time- but it's one that I really like doing... ;)

I've just completed the model for a beverage section, it's just a model right now- not imported yet so no fine tuning:

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic14.JPG (http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic14.JPG)

Maybe tomorrow I'll have it in game and tested :D

[RCT3BOB]

Very Cool! Can't Wait For Final Set!:up: :up:

[rctlil'man]

O MY GOD THAT IS THE BEST PEICE OF CUSTOM SCENERY EVER MADE O MY GOD *faints and falls out of chair*

[nitsuJ311]

FINALLY MY PEEPS CAN EAT AT A RESTARUANT! Woo!
Youre my savior. Im probably gonna post a park here when I can download this. Still need the baffroom set though ;)

[shyguy]

Now why'd you go and get yourself another job??? Getting this new scenery set out is much more important! And your old trellises have major x-ray problems and don't look very good on my Southern Plantation Restaurant. :p

I have one request...
Can you make a 4H version of your trellis? My first floors of all the Wonder World buildings are 4H. :)

[RCT-Spanky]

I have one request...
Can you make a 4H version of your trellis? My first floors of all the Wonder World buildings are 4H.

This is the first time, that you requested somethin' for your park, Shyguy. I'm sure Vodhin feel honoured, that you requested somethin' from him.

[sjeskie007]

realy nice work vodhin!!! can't w8

[Vodhin]

Now why'd you go and get yourself another job??? ...
Can you make a 4H version of your trellis? My first floors of all the Wonder World buildings are 4H. :)
These are 4h, and have no X-Ray effect I've seen. 4 high is right for a single story anyway. What you don't see in any pics are the new cross sections and the roof... The new job was one I couldn't refuse ;)

This is the first time, that you requested somethin' for your park, Shyguy. I'm sure Vodhin feel honoured, that you requested somethin' from him.
Hmmmmm... You're right! Though it's not the first time I've made a model for ShyGuy- I do have something special for his park in the works- and now that I've figured out [garbled transmission]***mmphmmgh whispiz whizp fighgigzit***[/garbled transmission] I can move forward with that project :D

O MY GOD THAT IS THE BEST PEICE OF CUSTOM SCENERY EVER MADE O MY GOD *faints and falls out of chair*
You ain't seen nothin' yet ;)


More To Come :D

[GreatGatsby]

Ooh, Vodhin those are works of art! I'm sure those could come in great handy to a lot of us trying to build parks.

-waits impatiently-

-GG

[osudenny]

Vodhin this is great. I can hardly wait for them to be released. Great Job

[Aceana]

What happens if you click on these links? do you get the pics or do you get an error? If you get an error, tell me exactly what it is and perhaps I can fix it.

I don't get an error, but it tells me that the page is forbidden.:confused:

[El Toro]

You know what would be great with your buffet? Your booths! :D

[Vodhin]

I don't get an error, but it tells me that the page is forbidden.:confused:

Hmmm. I don't have any IP bans in place, so it might be your browser's saftey settings: I know in Internet Explorer there are options to add websites as Restricted or as Safe, you should see if vodhin.net is in your restricted website list and remove it if it is, or try adding vodhin.net to your trsuted websites. Pressing F1 will call up help on your browser's settings and how to change them.

[Cancerbat]

omfg, this is so amazing, now is it peep friendly, if so, is it a path inner or outer, or none, well I guess it would have to be one, lol, and when you textured that did you have to map the whole thing out first then all that other crap, because I have tried complex figures and they really suck. I like one simple colour, lazy me.

[CPexpert]

Hey vodhin, could u give me another link for this one to.

[Albert Caine]

__________________________(speach-less)____________________________

[Vodhin]

omfg, this is so amazing, now is it peep friendly, if so, is it a path inner or outer, or none, well I guess it would have to be one, lol, and when you textured that did you have to map the whole thing out first then all that other crap, because I have tried complex figures and they really suck. I like one simple colour, lazy me.

Don't know it I will make it peep friendly- I have a few ideas, though. There are 11 meshes with 11 textures- three of those textures have 16 images on each one for the food items and other goodies (oh, an one more with the alpha masks I need). It turns out that MilkShape has a very powerfull and easy to use texture coordiante tool built in, and several plugins that can also tile map the object just by giving it XYZ repeat n times figures- very usefull for keeping an even flow of textures across multiple scenery pieces.

The Soda Machine made it into the game, BTW, but not without one little problem- the whole thing ended up backwards:

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/HowTo/Glass00.jpg

Hey vodhin, could u give me another link for this one to.


There's a link on the first page- but it's just the original tables which I have reworked: better to wait for my next update- the original table will not be in this set (there's identical ones though)


More To Come :D

[Cancerbat]

Sweet, must be hard and boring,lol.

[yesnt]

the whole thing ended up backwards

that always happens to me, i have no idea why

[Belgabor]

If you use MS and convert from ms3d in biturn, probably the latter is to blame.

[Vodhin]

If you use MS and convert from ms3d in biturn, probably the latter is to blame.

I doubt it: If I do my own rotate in MS (the text is still correct), then go to biturn (the text is still correct) and use your importer- the text come out incorrect... been that way since day one.

But I have a feeling that RCT3 just draws X negative- It's an easy fix: I can just select the whole model and morror left/right and it solves the problem...

Good News everyone! I have figured out how to take a full, 16 million color image and convert it to the second and third color indexes for RCT3- that means that the base counter and the counter top will be recolorable and look beautiful!

This has been a bain for me as I use Pain(t) Shop Pro- a really good program, but lacking the ability to reindex the pixel maps. The results are looking really really good!

For all you Paint Shop Pro users, here's how to get color 2: it's just a matter of clicking "Image" then "Arithmatic" and follow these steps:


Make sure image 1 and image 2 are the same picture
Click Subtract
Image 1 should be Reds, Image 2 should be Blues
Divisor = 3, Bias = 86
Clip Values should be checked


The finished result will be an 256 color "gray scale" image with the primary components of the image remaining (technically combining Reds and Blues to make what would be green in a true rgb map).

Now that the image's pixels are all mapped to palette index between 86 and 170, the image will behave in RCT3 as the second color in a two color choice. All that's left to do is reorder the palette by luminence (will be brighter to darker). This may make a 'negative' version of your image- if it does, then redo the steps, but convert the image to a negative image first.

I haven't tried the third color yet, but I bet I can do it by setting the bias to 171.



More To Come :D

[Belgabor]

Well, I hope the next version will fix all of this. I have a suspicion why you get these results. Create a simple object that indicates the axises (or use the one I asked you to map) and DO NOT ROTATE it. Look at it in MS and in biturn, they should be mirrored (and the axises remapped).

[LuckyGirl]

OMG - you just outdid yourself! Again :D
This is absolutely fantastic and so detailed.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


LuckyGirl
Somwhere, Uk

Atari/Frontier
Somwhere, Everywhere
10.10.2006, UK

Subject: Potential new employee sighted


Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing regarding the development of RCT4. In course of my membership on your forum, I was able to see the progress of the custom scenery maker Vodhin. Not only is his work absolutely outstanding for a layman, but it also exceeds standards for professional scenery developers.
Due to his profond connections with the RCT community, he can furthermore provide a deep insight into the actual wishes and requirements of the community, hence your customers. Considering this, he would also be a valuable employee in regards to marketing and advertisement strategies.
He is currently working in sales, but should you make an appropriate offer, he would certainly consider a change of occupation.

Should you require further recommandations, please do not hesitate to contact either the community or myself.

I am looking forward to hear from you.

Kind Regards,

LuckyGirl
Atari-Community Member

[CPexpert]

Ok. thats fine with me.

[weasel497]

Can someone help me get my jaw off the floor please???

Vodhin, I LOVE YOU!!!

[Vodhin]

OMG - you just outdid yourself! Again :D
This is absolutely fantastic and so detailed...

Wait until you see the cookies... ;)


Well, I hope the next version will fix all of this. I have a suspicion why you get these results. Create a simple object that indicates the axises (or use the one I asked you to map) and DO NOT ROTATE it. Look at it in MS and in biturn, they should be mirrored (and the axises remapped).

It's not that big a deal for me, but just so you know, my objects are 'correct' in both MilkShape and in Biturn. Indexing colors, now that's my latest chalenge, but I think I have got that figured out- read on...



***And Now- an update! ***

Hi All! I finally got my textures indexed correctly! Now you can recolor the Buffet Bar and it's upcoming companion pieces perfectly!

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic15.JPG

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic16.JPG

It's been a long day with other thins to do, but I'm glad I figured out how to make this happen! I also managed to rebuild themdel with one third less facets- and I added stuff to it no less!

Tomorrow will be a lighter day, so maybe I can get the rest of the pieces in place and get some shots of them, too (and put the tray rails back on this model... :) )

[Curtis-Rohde]

My God that is awesome!!!!!! Now all you need are those metal things that you pull up to get hot foods.

[RCT-Spanky]

yum yum ... this cookies are so great. The whole set is indescribable. A real masterpiece.

ÄÄhhhm ... One question for the (hoepfully soon) upcoming download: Must I set up my Internet browser to allow accept "Cookies" from a third party web-site? ;)

[GBM]

Good heavens! I don't know what you do for a living but ya gotta change career like what lucky girl have said.

Awesome. I can't wait to download them...

[larry241]

Those don't look like cookies...they look like........mmm....dooooooonuuuuutssss....
Fantastic job!

[DanishDude]

Oh, we need a Pepsi/Coke machine, like the one you did with juice..

It looks amazing, and it just looks so real. I love your chairs/table, but this. This is amazing! We can finnaly make a great looking restaurant/cafe, wich looks realistic. Keep up the good work! I like it :up:

[wabigbear]

Wow, those textures really lend themselves well to other colors Vodin! This whole set is unbelievable...great job!

[Cyberleader]

Truly amazing!

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

OMG! That is simply amazing Vodhin!

[StarRngr4.0]

I can think of two solutions Voh... either invert the textures before you export, or try applying the texture mapping to the OTHER side of the model. Go ahead and have it backwards in ms and see if it comes out right 'in the end'?

[osudenny]

Vodhin This just great all the way around. Can't wait for an update on the download teaser pack ;)

Really this is great!! Thanks

[Vodhin]

Thanks for all your great compliments- this has been a fun diversion from the regular world- and even more fun with Belgabor's latest improvements (mainly importing driectly from MlikShape.

Well, I managed to confiscate some photos taken by a daring peep who managed to get by my security. Since these will probably make it into the next tabloid newspaper anyway, I figured I post them here first: The new Cafe and Bistro (for quantum navigation) under construction...


http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic17.JPG

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic18.JPG

That's all for now, enjoy!


More To Come :D

[AvA]

B-e-a-utiful!

[coinich]

Where's the X-Ray effect!?!

I love that pic from the window.

[belotto33]

What a fantastic set. I can smell doughnuts... ;-))

Can´t wait to d/l it...
Thank you for your wonderful work.

[Curtis-Rohde]

That is so frigin' amazing!!! I need this set!! :mdr1: :eek2: :mdr1:

[Teirmose]

Ummmm http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2290/hungryyv8.gif

How much long http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2230/clockwp8.gif will it be till you release this master piece?

Hurray for Vodhin!!! http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8727/cheer2xe2.gifhttp://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8727/cheer2xe2.gifhttp://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8727/cheer2xe2.gif

[RCT-Spanky]

That's all for now, enjoy!

Pure understatement ... you've created a new counter, right? With somethin like a coffee-machine and a teabag-case. Those ceiling-parts are awesome too.

Did the new set includes both table-types? One with the long table cloth (for use inside cafe's or restaurants) and the bistro-table (for street-cafe's)?

Damned good job!!!!

[poekie1337]

this set is amazing!!! It's the most detailed set out here. I like everything you've done, it looks really nice! I like to see some parks putting those objects in, it gives it a hole new feeling to it. Too bad it's not going to be in my parks, my computer won't handle this piece of art.

Thanks for sharing this with us.
I can't use this set, but I still love it.
:up::up:

[RCT-Spanky]

@ poekie1337: Not really sure, but if your computer can handle RCT3, he must also can handle custom scenery. Maybe you need the official add-ons and maybe you should search the internet for RCT-patches.

[Vodhin]

Where's the X-Ray effect!?! I love that pic from the window.
The X-Ray effect is there- some color combinations work better than others to cancel it out...



...How much long[er] will it be till you release this master piece?
Hopefully soon ;)


Did the new set includes both table-types? One with the long table cloth (for use inside cafe's or restaurants) and the bistro-table (for street-cafe's)?...
The table cloths fit over the existing tables... New, larger tables will eventually be added into the set and these will have table cloths built in and also have separate, 'extra' working chairs ;)


...Too bad it's not going to be in my parks, my computer won't handle this piece of art...
It should, and without too many problems- my new method of building scenery pieces keeps the facet count really low and details high- the most complex piece (yet) is the full Buffet Bar and it is only 595 triangles and is mostly welded verticies. The other pieces have about an average of 300...

The iggest thing about this set is the new texture OVLs- Instead of each model storing its own textures, these models refer to a single file- this keeps the resources lower. It also causes a brief (less than a second) pause when you first hover over the icon for one of the pieces in a group. after it has read the texture data, it and the others in the group load normally.

I have no idea if this new seperate texture file process actually improves the performance of the game, but I'm hoping it will....


More To Come :D

[Cyberleader]

:O That is amazing! You really have grasped scenery to the maximum!

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

So, what ever happened to those booths? Did you finish those? I really wanna see em'!!

[LuckyGirl]

I am speechless. And I don't think this has happened before.
Vodhin, I would hope you share your new ways of making scenery with us creators, possibly at your website?

[poekie1337]

okey, I guess I will try it. I've got nothing to lose, and from what I heard now it sounds positive. alltough, my computer runs RCT 3 not the best, hoping to update some day...

oh yeah, and I have to get my expantions for my birthday :p

[°Celsius]

Its official, Your ten times better then shyguy, especially since he dosent do requests

[RCT-Spanky]

Its official, Your ten times better then shyguy, especially since he dosent do requests

Both are masters of CS. None is better than the other. Both make different scenery and the fact, that one request a piece from the other says nothing about who's better.

Why should Shyguy not ask ... or why shouldn't Vodhin ask Shyguy for a scenery piece. I think, both are in position to request somethin' from the other with a little difference to any other here. They will get their requested pieces.

Imagine what could happened, when both (together with some other of the high talented CS-Designers here) work together on a Custom Scenery-Pack.
Shi* ... I begin to dream

[°Celsius]

Yay, lets start a debate team

[shyguy]

I think Vodhin has easily surpassed me in the custom scenery department. I just don't think he's 10 times better! :p

[coinich]

Only 5? ;)

I really like this, and am glad to hear that the chairs will be their own object too!

[RCToThe3]

No coinich, 5 isn't right. 5 and a half is correct. :D

[Vodhin]

...I just don't think he's 10 times better! :p
Only 5? ;) ...
... 5 and a half is correct. :D

"Toydee tree anda toyd" actually ;)



*** Update ***

Well, it's been an interesting day indeed! First off, I have got all the Buffet Bar pieces in game and seeming aligned the way I want them to be, and I stumbled across a new trick that gives me perfect Alpha transparencies- No X-Ray Effect! :D

This major hurdle was keeping me from creating the type of scenery I have allways wanted in RCT3, and now that I got it figured out, you'll see lots of new pieces that use this technique! Take a look at the new Iron Trellis Wall and Iron Fencing sections that will be included in the Cafe Kit:

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic19.JPG

Draw distance and steep angles of view yield prommising results- and no X-Ray effect in sight. I must say that these images were resized and some of the detail has been lost- but not to worry- they look a lot better in game! Take a look at some night shots:

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic20.JPG

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic21.JPG


Everything is working just right, and the level of detail n the texture did not suffer a little photo-shop resizing to make smaller texture files - these two that I'm using in the Trellis pieces were over 1MB each, now they're less than a quarter of that and look ten times better!

Well, that's all for today-


More To Come :D


(PS: No one commented on something interesting in the previous pics? )

[shyguy]

It's all stunningly beautiful! Or is that beautifully stunning?

Are you going to make colorable trellises? I need them for my restaurant. If not, no big deal. It's looking pretty good as it is, just that your ironwork would be the perfect finishing touch. :rolleyes:



(PS: No one commented on something interesting in the previous pics? )

I'm not sure, but are those lights over the salad bar? And are they on during the day?

[PvHooijdonk]

Amazing if -as you say- it even looks better in game.
I allready find these pictures look gorgeous ! (or should I say gorgeously stunning :) ).
As for comparing to Shyguy: I couldn't possibly give each of you a number.
All of you have delivered outstanding attributes to RCT3, and opened up a whole new world of ideas. It's so interesting to see the quality of the new objects rise and rise over time ...
This will keep us enthousiastic in creating more and more beautiful parks using all these goodies ...
I would like to thank ALL of the object creators !

THANK YOU ALL !!! :mdr1:

[Magnum]

A cappucino, please!

Is it an "All you can eat"-buffet?:p

Stunning, Professor Vodhin! Absolutely fabolous...

And on another note... To make a comparison between CS wizards is probably just as futile as trying to have a sensible conversation with my ex-wife... So, believe me folks... You DO NOT want to go there...:down:

(Man, those fried shrimps were delicious... I'll be rolling home after this...)

[coinich]

Is it that the roof has a bar accross it too? Finally! No X-Ray effect! I suppose older sets won't be updated for this though?

[RCT-Spanky]

This new iron trellis-pieces are amazing.With the new technique that you've discovered, they look perfect. I agreed with Shyguy to make them colourable, but if not ... who cares (in this special way).

I wish you will not only share this stunning set with us. I'm sure any CS-designer here would like to know, what you've discovered for the perfect transparency.

Maybe it's time for your first book ... RCT3-CSO: THE TUTORIAL ;) :p

[GreatGatsby]

Wow, Vodhin! Those look so great! All this new stuff only makes more impatient waiting for me, lol. :D

Anyways, now that you've figured out a trick or two, maybe a salad bar, a dessert cart, or a soup stand would look great, if you catch my drift... ;)

-GG

[osudenny]

Wow I can't wait for this. Vodhin the lights in the overhang for the buffet will they flicker cause of sitting so close if not how bright are they??? Also so are you going to make a plan one?? If not there are going to be alot Vodhin Cafe's out there. I hope you don't charge a Franchise Fee. ;)

[Cyberleader]

Yes! Amazing! Perfect alpha! Hoora!

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

Vodhin, I have a question.....On the top of the buffet piece.......is Vodhin's Place always there, or is it a seperate piece...

[CPexpert]

This is rerally awsome. I love it. so the peeps can actually get drinks and the food from these? If so, thats awsome!

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

^^^ No, they just maybe use it as like a viewing point of something...they won't actually serve themselves food from it...

[CPexpert]

ooo. that stinks

[KiDFoX]

Ooooooh Ahhhhhhh


Can we make glass that doesnt do the x-ray thing now too?

[Mad Man]

Looks stunning

[swimfreak430]

i cant wait
im not gonna finish my new section of the park till those Iron Trellis Walls are out i used the old ones bu they had the x ray affect these look great

[Fisherman]

Do I see in the future...a VICTORIAN scenery set perhaps??? :D

Looks AMAZING as usual, Vodhin!!!

-Derek

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Can you perhaps reveal to us the secrets of your no x-ray thing?

[Maxamillious]

^^^ No, they just maybe use it as like a viewing point of something...they won't actually serve themselves food from it...
Wouldn’t be too sure of that one. I’m sure Vodhin could easily whip those up into a functional food-stall, self serve and employee free. O’ Vodhin… :p

And wow, those trellises are fantastic! :eek:

[CoasterSim.Fan]

Wow this set has been looking so good. But those Iron railings look amazing. Nice job.

I cant believe you finally got the Alpha textures to be have right. This find will really help the community. All you persistence and work has finally payed off.

[StarRngr4.0]

*manages to lever jaw up off the Keyboard*

Wow. Just.... WOW. Those trelli look killer with the new alpha settings Vohdin.

Are they ready for download yet?

[osudenny]

Vodhin what about a canopy for your railing set when it is right beside a building for an area so the peeps can eat without getting wet??

[Maxamillious]

(PS: No one commented on something interesting in the previous pics? )

I'm not sure, but are those lights over the salad bar? And are they on during the day?
I see the use of a mist particle to represent steam given off by the food…

I could be wrong though.

[rctlil'manTA]

I noticed that too though but i thought every onr did lOl

[wabigbear]

I really love the new ironwork Vodin! I was wondering if your technique would be transferable to your previous Ironwork Trellis set sometime down the road? It was a more ornate New Orleans style, and I really look forward to mix and matching pieces from all!

Thanks again for the great work...it's amazing!

[k_peek_2000]

wow. if you keep up scenery like that, in a matter of time, rct3 would look like half life 2!

[Vodhin]

I think I've nailed down the Alpha thingy- there's still a little bit of experiments to do, but I now have them fully recolorable (and that process led to yet another discovery- I'll post that once I have confirmed it). Here's the trellis set now fully recolorable:

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic22.JPG

This should make ShyGuy very happy, and many others too! If my guess is right, that little discovery I think I made while working on making thiese recolorable will lead to perfect glass, too...

Thanks for all your compliments and encouragement!


More To Come.

(PS- it is the steam that was the little trick with the Buffet Bar ;) )

[jessknight1]

Looking good as always.

[RCT-Spanky]

I agreed with wabigbear. The old set looks very good too (more art deco). And why should we not have two different iron trellis sets?

EDIT: You have good testers .. I saw your new set in Shyguys Restaurant an on board of birou006's Titanic. When can we all download it?

[LuckyGirl]

Vodhin, you just keep amazing me, and your latest set is of such high quality (detail, colours, alpha) - it honestly looks better than actual in-game scenery :eek:

How did you get the recoulerable option for the trollis? I thought this might not work, as th iron has different colours?
Also, is there a quick way of getting an alpha texture for a texture, which includes several colours?

[Vodhin]

I will be adding other iron work pieces now that I have the road to a sucessful creation in place. I have invited some folks here and there to try out stuff so I know ahead of time if there are any problems (other then the fact I have yet to make icons for most of the pieces).

LG- you can take a full color image and make it recolorable. Here's the basics: you need to take the image and spilt the colors into their three primary colors- RGB through a subtraction process (make a new image out of each color). these will end up as grayscale negative images of each component (lighter will be darker, darker will be lighter).

You then need to recombine these into a single image with the final having it's colors decreased to 77 colors and offeset the index by 8 - you will end up with a photo that is made up of the entire colors of the original but with a palette of only the first 85 colors in a 256 color palette and it will be re-colorable with the first choice in game. If you offest by 86, it will be the second set, 171 the third (and you would decrease colors to 85, not 77 for the second and third index tiers).

Now, most photo palettes are sorted positively- from dark to light, the RCT3 palette is negative and will automatically have your light and dark in the correct shading order (I believe that they used this process so they could use full color images without loss). It's also why the palette is that garish Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow- they are the negatives of Red, Green, and Blue.

The first 8 colors in each color set don't seem to change and are not affected by color choice or lightness/darkenss (hence why some of the colors I used above have odd lighting shades). I think these first colors are meant to allow non changing colors to exist (blacks and whites, for example) and might also allow for special effects- transparancies, for example. Experiments continue.

Well, off to work I go- real work.


More To Come :D

[RCT-Spanky]

Hi Vodhin, now that you have discovered perfect alpha textures, maybe your Cafe needs some curtains ;). Just an idea.

http://www.rct-theme-world.de/euro/curtain.jpg

[disneyland255]

Congratulations Vodhin! That is very exciting! A new door has opened in the RCT3 community because of you!

[GBM]

That colorable trellis and fence would create a great art deco french quarter...

amazing, vodhin!

[°Celsius]

Ok, unless mine arent working right, i hate the hot food. Theres smoke puffing off it every second really fast, mabye a mist would be better but other then that its great

[Curtis-Rohde]

Okay, apparently I missed the latest d/l link, could someone give it to me? plz.

[°Celsius]

1st post, its been updated

[Vodhin]

Cat's outta the bag!

Ok, unless mine arent working right, i hate the hot food. Theres smoke puffing off it every second really fast, mabye a mist would be better but other then that its great

Me too ;) I have yet to find an appropriate effect (mist just fills the room and it looks like it's on fire :haha: ) I will find a good effect! I will, I will...

Hi Vodhin, now that you have discovered perfect alpha textures, maybe your Cafe needs some curtains ;)...
I got that texture and will see what I can do. If I can get that gold trim to invert blue, it will be ready to be recolorable. I will look for other textures like this, as it might be nice to have window and doorway drapery...

Next Up... (just for you know who)... Booth Seating!

[rctlil'manTA]

YAAAAAA the long awated booths will you make corner booth peices

[swimfreak430]

sounds awsome
have you done any work on creating perfect glass that would really come in handy.
or imagine reflective glass!!
Wooooo0o0o0oooo that would be to amazing but one mircle at a time haha.
although i made reflective glass in one of my pics of my resterunt. i photoshoped it haha

[RCT-Spanky]

I got that texture and will see what I can do. If I can get that gold trim to invert blue, it will be ready to be recolorable. I will look for other textures like this, as it might be nice to have window and doorway drapery...

Did you mean it like this:
http://www.rct-theme-world.de/euro/curtain2.jpg

BTW: In the "New complete list of custom scenery"-Thread is an update from Oct. 14th announced. Is that update really available or did you have "just the old version"as download on your site?

[°Celsius]

Yes, finally, ive been waiting for months!

[nailedgod]

Wow. Every time I don't visit this site for a while I come back and Vodhin has turned the game upside down with an amazing new creation. It's unbelievable that he just keeps finding new ways to make this game better than ever! Good work Vodhin!

[jimmy_neutron]

When I try to download your cafe set and the lighting set I get a courpt file...

[coinich]

Try repeatedly dling it.

The final version of this hasn't been released, has it? I don't like dling unfinished packs usually.

[DarkMeasures]

Vodhin, you are so awesome at this that I hope you can do store innards soon, especially since Walking Snake's compy blew up.

[Vodhin]

Thanks for all the replies- I haven't had much time to work on this, but I did manage to get a few new pieces made. Getting the peep rotations correct is a little mind numbing at the moment, as I'm working out how to use this new importer by Belgabor (I'm used to rotationg in MilkShape, measuring, then dumping it strait into jonwill's old importer version). I'm getting closer, though. Perhaps I'll have an updated release later next week (and, no, it wont be the final, either).

Fo now, here are a few teaser pic for ya:

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic25.JPG

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic24.JPG

Enjoy!


More To Come :D

[simking]

Wow can't wait makes me wish i was a peep RCT3 meets the sims

[PvHooijdonk]

Beautiful new furniture pieces !!!
And a working booth so it seems as well.
Brilliant work !:jumpclap:

[MeJayBe]

Ok, I give up.... where do I download the update from???

[ziggles]

I can't wait!

[RCT-Spanky]

The new seats and the grand tables are stunning. (Okay, maybe a little wrong order of the set of knife, fork and spoon on this tables, but who cares?)
I will use both parts defintivly in my chinese restaurant.

The new small iron relings are also a fantastic idea. Can't wait for the updated set.

[StarRngr4.0]

Waaaaaaait a second! I see EMPLOYEES behind those counters! What gives?

[rctlil'manTA]

uhhhh... a custom stall under the counter LOL

[Master_Player09]

I love it!

[StarRngr4.0]

Cool! Shows how much attention I've been paying, dunnit...

[MeJayBe]

Seriously, can somebody tell me where I can download V.2 of this Kit? It says it's available but I don't know what reply it's on. :cry:

[StarRngr4.0]

The link is in post #1.

[Vodhin]

This stuff (table and booths is not yet available- the iron railings are ;)

[rctlil'manTA]

can we expect them soon. im refurbing a resturaunt a REALLY need them. its ok if not though

[Curtis-Rohde]

Wow can't wait makes me wish i was a peep RCT3 meets the sims

Wow, that's actually an awesome idea for RCT4

Anyway Vodhin, this is looking fantastic! I think every member on the forum will download this set!

[swimfreak430]

omg thats amazing i love it. that would be a perfect addition to my park
i cant wait

[simking]

Maybe this was coverd can the peeps use the buffet like they would a vendor? if not how hard would it be to add an end peice with a default cash regester and vendor? so it could be useable just wondering.

[ROLLERCOASTEROB]

great scenry gonna really help with my parks thanks

[Vodhin]

...how hard would it be to add an end peice with a default cash regester and vendor?

That's what I started doing, but realized that buffet bars usually do not have a check out- instead there is place where peeps pay first (or later). So I started making custom covers for the custom stalls-

http://www.vodhin.net/CustomScenery/Vodhin/CafeKit/Pic25.JPG

They are in matching textures and more pieces will be added to make the 'Deli' set that will all work together. There's even an intersection piece that allows the buffet pieces to connect to these... I will if I can add some kind of effect to hopefully make the peeps stop at the various pieces- but don't hold your breath... A vista point might be the best option, though your peep groups wil constantly take photos in front of these if you have that option. That could get old real fast. Probably use a passport machine or something.


can we expect them soon. im refurbing a resturaunt a REALLY need them. its ok if not though

Hopefully this week... Gotta do a few more adjustments/tests...