[REL] Moby's Arcade Games

[Moby]

Well after taking so much from the community (i don't mean my local one) i thought it was about time i gave something back. Here's my first CS set, called arcade games.

Version 1 Released DOWNLOAD HERE (http://www.meganaut.com/mag.html)


Here are the objects so far;

- Pool table
- Air hockey table
- Pac-Man Classic Arcade (animated)(post#154) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8259161&postcount=154)
- Time Crisis 4 arcade (post#55) (excluded) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8166128&postcount=55)
- Tron Classic Arcade (post#70) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8178901&postcount=70)
- Roulette Stall (post#122) (moved to 'Casino' set) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8236886&postcount=122)
- Terminator 2 Pinball (animated)(post#161) (problem with glass) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8268251&postcount=161)
- Slot Machines - Haywire, Double Diamond, Triple Diamond, Shockwave, The Munsters (post#166) (v2) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8271683&postcount=166)
- Penny Pusher Machine (post#194) (problem with glass - might not be included) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8286997&postcount=194)
- Clock Battles 4 (animated)(post#247) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8696650&postcount=247)
- Defender Classic Arcade (post#288) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8721855&postcount=288)
- Gravitar Classic Arcade (post#288) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8721855&postcount=288)


I hope to have more, so i'm asking everyone to post names of old (or new) arcade games they used to play or would like to see. Anything that would fit in this set.

Here are the first two;

http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/5420/poolairhdj7.jpg
http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/1941/ahgb9.jpg

Please post suggestions, criticisms, etc.

[Cyberleader]

They look great! Good work :up:

[errt]

Great! What about a pinball table?

[J-Playa]

cool!:up:

[-Nuclear Fish-]

How about slot machines? You could make the straight ones and some of those hexagonal ones you find in most arcades.

Looks great so far, by the way! :up: Something I could defnately use in my park...

Actually, another idea, could you make some of those arcade driving games? You know, with the seats and steering wheel?

[El Toro]

Actually, another idea, could you make some of those arcade driving games? You know, with the seats and steering wheel?

You could also make them so peeps could sit in them, and appear as if they are driving the simulator. That would be spectacular!

[Cancerbat]

Yah, make them benches, and the people can sit in the chair and look as if they were riving by making there hands on the steering wheel, and there feet on the pedals.

It may or may not be useful given that peeps rarely sit in chairs, but getting a shot of one in them would be awesome, great affect. Then again sort of a waste of time.

Something that you may or may not include in this set is a casino, a casino may be going in my park, I was going to use Billboards at one point, now I am going to make my own, I have been busy, so if you could make like, slot machines, black jack tables, roulette, you know, I think, that would be great!!

I find casino's alot more popular in theme parks or in theme park resort's then arcade's that's why.

As for objects for the arcade, maybe some of those basketball things, DDR, pinball, pacman, shooting, racing, skiing, fishing, the normal stuff.

[Moby]

Thanks a lot guys.

@errt - Pinball machine coming soon;)

@nuclear fish - Nice ideas - i'm on it. Keep 'em coming.:up:

@el toro - Hmmm, will definitely try. That would be cool.:dark:

@top gun - Wow. Really like the casino idea. It would go great with the pools - peeps can make vegas style resorts. I better get busy before i lose motivation! lol What's DDR?

[Cancerbat]

@Moby: Dance Dance Revolution, that thing that you dance on where the squares light up:)

[infiniteblue]

That would be a good addition, it's very popular. I would like to see the Time Crisis game, or maybe even Silent Scope (the sniper game).

[hpprinter]

How about a race car machine?

[Cancerbat]

One thing that you will definately have to have in here though, that is ofcourse if it is and arcade, is the prize table (where you get prizes for points), ticket counter (thing that counts how many tickets), and finally, snack counter's.

By snack counter's I mean, just a cover for a Custom Counter with a popcorn machine and a drink machine, only because it gives that extra touch, and would come in handy in movie theatre's in parks (like mine;)), and just all around custom counter cover's.

Please consider atleast the last one just for the sake of it.

Ps- what program do you use?

[-Nuclear Fish-]

^ I believe he uses 3ds Max.

One simple suggestion that shouldn't be too challenging: diagonal versions of most objects. Just to give more freedom in how we want them. And if everything was quarter tile placed that would be great too.

[DarkMeasures]

How about some prize play games too? And a prize counter?

[Cancerbat]

One thing that you will definately have to have in here though, that is ofcourse if it is and arcade, is the prize table (where you get prizes for points), ticket counter (thing that counts how many tickets).

@DM- He already said he would:D

[Albert Caine]

I like the casino idea and I'll need it in the future! let's just say I'm making a theme park and a resort in Vegas ;)
I really love the pool table!:up:

[niccum_123]

How about Mappy or PacMan?

[k_peek_2000]

fooseball?

[bowler4ever]

SkeeBall!!!!

[davidcon]

Could you do that thing where the light goes around, and you have to push the button when the light goes onto a certain spot? I don't know what it's called.

[punkitten]

A casino would really be cool!

I'm also up for the ticket stuff.

How about a change machine? Toy booths, handing stuffed animals, just some ideas. :)

Oh how about the claw machine?

Noiw if only i can learn how to make a square in 3d :(

[SmArTsToOdIoS]

Pretty cool stuff Moby! I think that you should add a Time Crisis game :D

[CDN1212]

You need a shooting game! obviously, the peeps could not use the guns, but you could make the guns in the little gun racks they are usualy set in.

[SmArTsToOdIoS]

Ummm... Time Crisis is a shooting game...

[yesnt]

:confused: erm... Arcade set, sounds familliar (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=546328) lol, but great work looking good so far

[CDN1212]

Ummm... Time Crisis is a shooting game...

Sorry. I didn't know

[Huba]

Looks good, I have a request :p

Could you make one of those penny machines like this http://manfredini.it/immagini/Pusher/penny_falls.gif

[Moby]

@Nuclear Fish - hexagonal slot machines or octogonal? Yes i much prefer d/l diagonal and 1/4 tile pieces - will try.

@Tog Gun - I know we can now make CS working seats, but how can i make it so their hands are on the wheel and feet on the pedals? is that really possible? Also DDR is popular, will try. And i guess i will have to do the ticket/prize counter, and change machine.

@hpprinter - Hmmm, that sounds hard. Would be cool though. F1 right?

@Niccum 123 - Pacman coming later today;)

@K_peek2000 - Fooseball, or table football coming soon...

@Bowler4ever - Skeeball? Sorry i've forgotten what that is! Remind me...

@Davidcon - ? Dont know what you mean. Gonna need some more info, how about the name?!

@Soaked master, smartstoodios, CDN1212 - Time Crisis will have to be there. One of the most popular later-gen arcades.

@punkitten - Might try the claw machine.

@yesnt - Oops. Was wondering if anyone's tried the arcade before. Hopefully gonna do quite a few though.

@Huba - Yeah would also like to do that. Maybe octogonal ones.

Well it looks like i got my work cut out for sure!
Please post any pictures to help for textures, the bigger the better.

[bowler4ever]

http://www.skeeball.com/classic.htm

[punkitten]

Woot you rock!
Heres a few pics i found.

http://cache.consumerist.com/images/2006/06/oof6da84.jpg
and
http://www.vendweb.com/images/Coast/Toy_Taxi_Crane_Machine.jpg
I'll have ot look some more!

[errt]

@bowler4ever: shyguy made skeeball already for his Circus Center Set 2. You only have to wait for the release.

[osudenny]

What about pop-a-shot basketball game and a bowling game???

Bowling Game like this
http://www.bmigaming.com/Images/prostrikerbowling.gif

Pop-a-shot game
http://www.bradydist.com/product_images/large/56220.jpg

[-Nuclear Fish-]

@Nuclear Fish - hexagonal slot machines or octogonal?

Octagonal? Should fit in easier.

Well it looks like i got my work cut out for sure!


That's what you get for starting CS. ;)

[osudenny]

How about a dome hockey game

http://www.bradydist.com/product_images/super/A2640.jpg

And the shuffleboard game

http://www.bradydist.com/product_images/super/91500.jpg

And the Derby Horse game

http://www.bradydist.com/product_images/super/A0550.jpg

[davidcon]

I found out that it's called a cyclone:
http://www.bmigaming.com/Images/cycloneredemption.jpg

[Moby]

PAC-MAN!
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5299/pmwr7.jpg

[El Toro]

Awesome, looks nice! :D

[yesnt]

Oh wow thats better than my arcade game, keep it up.

[infiniteblue]

Yay! Pac-Man! Another cabinet skin I'd like to see would be a Soul Caliber 2 arcade machine. Looks really good, though!

[kylr23]

how aboult ddr supernova or all ddr arcade games please dont forget time crises

[UberBunny]

MORTAL KOMBAT!

[rideslover]

Nice Work Moby. I love arcade, pool table and air hockey with black light. what about the steeling wheel on the arcade for the race car? or handguns with wire on the arcade machine to play shooting with gun? find a small stuff like duck or the rocket or car or horse for coin operating mechanic kiddie ride at the arcade area? great work, Thank you.

[RCT-master7]

make the hockey table have the lines on the ice ;)

[mini_shima]

This!!!

More modern style game

Daytona USA - its a classic!

http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/activex/637/images/daytonausa.jpg

Some arcades have upto 8 of these and when i was at disney quest last month there was ques to play this game!
:up:

[Belgabor]

Moby, you should keep in mind that some of names/logos/setups of these arcade games people posted here are probably protected by copyright and/or a trademark. You can run into trouble if you recreate them 1:1.

[Moby]

Thanks everyone for the ideas.

Moby, you should keep in mind that some of names/logos/setups of these arcade games people posted here are probably protected by copyright and/or a trademark. You can run into trouble if you recreate them 1:1.

WHAT? Really? What kind of trouble? This is a non-profit venture, you think anyone would mind?

[Belgabor]

I'm not a lawyer, so I have no idea what the consequences may be. I also cannot say if they would care, beacuse I'm not they :p
The only thing I can say is that whether it's non-profit or for profit probably only changes the consequences if they care, it does not allow you to break copyright. Trademarks are somewhat different. I'm not 100% sure, but applied to written works I think you can use them if you say somewhere in the same work (eg a web page) that xyz is a trademark of company abc.
Unfortunately what applies in this case is probably copyright (ie the design of the arcade machines) so I'd be very careful. I don't think it's a problem if you create 3D models "inspired" by real machines, but I'd refrain from using pictures of the real machines for texturing, better paint your own fantasy arcade machine.
Of course you can also ask the company that produces them for permission :)

[UberBunny]

well, so are all the coasters. and we still recreate them. with logos and stuff. if it was trouble, half of the RCT atari community would be >POOF<, gone. So i don't think you'll get in trouble Moby.

[coinich]

Better be safe than sorry, I feel. But I love the progress so far.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

The Brand Name logos with McDonald's and everything have had no problems as far as I'm aware. Moby isn't selling anything, so all he's really doing is advertisingt that company, which can only be a good thing. I don't really think anyone would care to be honest.

[VIPERHAWK2K4]

i like the casino idea too. im working on doing the atlantis resort in the bahamas and it has a casino in it.if you could i have an idea about the slots below....
1/4 tile and at angles would be great...

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/322/slotmachine1ks6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[CDN1212]

You don't really have to put the name of the games! just keep the main concept like a shooting game with no name, a driving game with no name. thats if you are really worried about this. I don't think that this is copyrighting. I think that in order to be considered copyrighting, you would need to steal the concept of their game, with a different name or steal the name and use different concept. an example would be if you made a game called Ghosts and the game play was the same as Pac-Man. Since you are recreating their games and not changing anything and you still use their names, you are clearly giving them credit for making.

Just like if you write an essay and copy and paste the information from a website, It is copyrighting. But If you take quotes from the website and give the author credit without changing it, thats allowed.

[RCT-master7]

uhhh, can you add a that hoop game where you shoot the basketball through the hoop to get something?

[Belgabor]

well, so are all the coasters. and we still recreate them. with logos and stuff. if it was trouble, half of the RCT atari community would be >POOF<, gone. So i don't think you'll get in trouble Moby.
If everyone shoots the next one he meets it's still murder.

The Brand Name logos with McDonald's and everything have had no problems as far as I'm aware. Moby isn't selling anything, so all he's really doing is advertisingt that company, which can only be a good thing. I don't really think anyone would care to be honest.
You're probably right, most won't care. I never said he will get into trouble, but he should be aware of the fact that he might get into trouble.

Just like if you write an essay and copy and paste the information from a website, It is copyrighting. But If you take quotes from the website and give the author credit without changing it, thats allowed.
That applies to written things, but you can't really cite a picture, as a cite is only a fraction of the text, and a fraction of a picture is usually useless =)
If you take a whole picture it's copyright infringement if you don't ask for permission, even if you credit the creator/copyright holder.

[Moby]

As you can see this isn't yet perfect, some of it needs to be welded/unwelded to make it appear better, and the position is slightly off. Plus if anyone can get a decent res picture of the side it would be much appreciated. Anyway here it is;

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7250/tckq9.jpg

[swimfreak430]

are these downloadble yet?

[Moby]

are these downloadble yet?

No. Not until i get them all right and finish the set.

[swimfreak430]

they look great to me

oh and what ever happend to "ARMAGEDDON" i want to see more of that coaster

[andrewm0304]

These look awesome, some of the best arcade games so far, can't wait to download them!

[modernman]

The time crisis game looks awesome, I love the guns, it realy looks like the real game.

[osudenny]

Wow looking good

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Looks brilliant! :up: Defiantely can't wait to see what you have next! Have you tried diagonal versions of anything yet or quarter tile placement?

[Moby]

they look great to me

oh and what ever happend to "ARMAGEDDON" i want to see more of that coaster

Right now i'm working from a different PC, without soaked, wild, or the Armageddon files. But i am looking forward to getting back to it - got some pretty sweet ideas to try out.

Looks brilliant! :up: Defiantely can't wait to see what you have next! Have you tried diagonal versions of anything yet or quarter tile placement?

Yes i'm making most of them 1/4 tile as i go, will do them diagonally later.

[bowler4ever]

When did Time Crisis 4 come out?

I mean, I've never played any of the Time Crisis games, but when did 4 come out? :weird:

[Kev4567]

Wow!!! These are great. Can u make a ticket counter where you get prizes from the tickets. That would be awesome. Also Token Machines and the ticket counter when the tickets get sucked up at it counts the tickets for you. Then it prints a receipt.

[infiniteblue]

When did Time Crisis 4 come out?

I mean, I've never played any of the Time Crisis games, but when did 4 come out? :weird:

4 has been out for a while now, not exactly sure when it was first put out though.

[Moby]

Tron is coming soon.

But i have been advised to stay away from recent games for copyright reasons.:mad: Therefore, i'm afraid Time Crisis 4 may not make it to the released set. Although i'm not sure right now.

[Kev4567]

you should do a coaster simulater( also i cant wait for tron, that will be awesome)
like this
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/1230/slide1mv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[osudenny]

Any new updates?? Really looking forward to this pack!!

[Moby]

Update you say? Sure, why not?:cool:

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8453/tronos7.jpg

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

Looks great! Although you should unweld some of that stuff....

[rctman12]

awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love this pack

[osudenny]

Outstanding!!!! Can hardly wait.

[msdavis13man]

What about the classic Super Mario Bros. game or Dr. Mario?

[-Nuclear Fish-]

:up:

[andrewm0304]

I can't wait for this to come out, keep up the good work!

[papab]

How does one acquire these awesome works of art? I don't see any way of downloading them.

Rich

[Moby]

How does one acquire these awesome works of art? I don't see any way of downloading them.

Rich

Welcome to the community. I will release this set when it is finished and perfect.

[papab]

Great, and thank you very much. I am new to this game and have completed RTC3, Soaked, and Wild. By reading many posts here I learned so much and found this game to be very sophisticated. Looking forward to more of the additions like the ones you are working on. I have downloaded tons of addons and am playing with them.

I do have a question about the camera. Where should I post for the info I am looking for?


Rich

[El Toro]

Looks nice! I would take up Kev on his idea, as it's a very nice one!

[Moby]

Looks great! Although you should unweld some of that stuff....

Yes most of these objects need some unwelding. I'm doing it now, trying to do it without having to re-map each one.:o

[Coastercam]

You should make ticket slots and at the end peeps could get prizes :)

Kinda like the passport machine.
Sorry. I did not see your post Kev.

[Jag100]

Sweeeeeet!!!! :P

[--=NAT=--]

you should make a line of arcade games big enough to fit a shop in the the peeps will go up to them and itll cha'ching and then theyll leave.wait,thats a stupid idea anyways great set!

[RCTCOLLECTOR2]

Hey I got an idea why don't u make some tabletop games like we find at some resturants. Oh and I belive they made a MarioKart Arcade racing game and it looks cool so I was wondering if u can make that?? Does it sound like a good idea??
here's a pic of the ideahttp://www.highwaygames.com/db_images/machine_lge3146

[--=NAT=--]

i hav played that mario kart game and it is strange (eg.one of the charaters is pacman)

[rideslover]

wow, excellent work! Thank Moby. I love the arcade video game. how about the pinball machine? I like the video game that moby made it. keep up good work. thank you.

[osudenny]

Moby any more updates that you have or a release date maybe soon??

[Moby]

Right now i'm having a problem in the edit mesh settings dialog. Any new ASE i try causes an error saying it's invalid and i know it's not. Hmmm...

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

^^^ What modeling program are you using?

[Moby]

I'm using 3DS Max v8

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

Hmmm.....Can I see the file? I might be able to see what's wrong with it.....if you give it to me, gimmie it in 3Ds. format, I'm on Milkshape....

[Belgabor]

Moby, could you create a very simple ase (a cube) that shows the problem and post it here please?

[Moby]

Okay here's the cube (megaupload)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2DRYM2DT (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2DRYM2DT)

[RCT-master7]

man this is getting insane...

[Belgabor]

Okay here's the cube (megaupload)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2DRYM2DT (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2DRYM2DT)

This one lacks UV-Mapping. The texture seems to be assigned, but the actual uv-coordinates are missing.

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

Okay here's the cube (megaupload)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2DRYM2DT (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2DRYM2DT)

I'll take a look at it now....

[Moby]

This one lacks UV-Mapping. The texture seems to be assigned, but the actual uv-coordinates are missing.

Well can you try this wall, it definitely has UV coords...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y0Z11OGB

[Belgabor]

Well can you try this wall, it definitely has UV coords...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y0Z11OGB
No it hasn't, at least not in any way the importer understands or ever understood.

[Moby]

Well I really don't know what's wrong. I'm doing exactly the same thing as i did before, and i've never had that error before. :bulb: :mad: I'll try different things...

[Belgabor]

Maybe it is an export option you need to set in 3DSmax somewhere...

[Moby]

Spot on every time Belgabor.
There was a mapping coords checkbox in the export options that was unchecked for some reason. You really know your scheiße:dbz3_3:, and you don't even use this program!

[Belgabor]

:)
Well, the texture was there and you were sure you had mapped it, so there isn't much left that could have gone wrong :p

[niccum_123]

now how about some Mappy :up:
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4521/mappyuj1.jpg

[Moby]

Sorry for the inactivity, I've been trying to make games with working seats or stalls but it seems to be quite complicated. If anyone can help me it'll be much appreciated. How high does it have to be? Can it only be in one position (path edge)? etc.

[DarkMeasures]

I would imagine that Vodhin would be the best person to ask as he did do that restaurant set.

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

Ok, well for information on Benches, I'd ask Vodhin, he's the king of Seats and stuff like that....as for making stalls, it's actually quite easy, just direct yourself to this thread HERE (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=551706). That thread will get you all you need to know about making stalls....Good day, sir!

[Moby]

Moby's Arcade Games is expanding into the dark world of casino gambling. Since soaked i've wanted to build a large casino/pool complex, and soon will be able to. I might put this into a second 'Casino' set depending on the number of objects, but right now it's here. Here's the first object, Roulette. When i get the hang of making stalls i'll probably convert this and others, they'll look great with a vendor standing there. I just wish i could put 'em in a tux and bowtie!

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9333/shot0000bi1.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2329/shot0001be1.jpg

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

Wow! Amazing! And about the tux thing, you can make their shirt black...but that's as close as you'll get....

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Looks great! :up:

Custom stalls really aren't hard, I tried them today and got the hang of it within minutes. I think it will loom extra brilliant when you manage to get a vendor there.

[Cancerbat]

What will people buy.... debt:haha:

Looks great, I love the idea of the casino, perhaps it will come in handy in my park....;)

[rideslover]

wow, it's wheel of fortune. nice work moby

[coinich]

Maybe you could create the outfit as part of the object. The suit could fit the space of the vendor, and largely cover the person up when he or she doesn't move.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

^ The only problem is the vendors often move. They keep bending down and waving their arms, so most of the time they wouldn't appear to be wearing the suit and it would just look weird.

[errt]

Model the vendors too. So they won't move...

[Magnum]

Nevermind the vendors... Show me the money!:up:

Great Roulette-table, Moby!

Casino... hmmm... moving RCT3 to Vegas, huh? OK... I will eagerly await the Strip Joints.... Oops... That must be a typo... or something....:haha:

[Moby]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2164/shot0004ab7.jpg

I plan to add stacks of chips in the empty area on the vendors' right.

What will people buy.... debt:haha:


Haha, yeah, and it ain't cheap!

[Albert Caine]

Wow the roulette table is just what I need!

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Looks great with the vendor :up:

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

Ah...another in the custom stall business I see? Nice!

[StarRngr4.0]

Seeing it with the 'vendor' only points up something... the table setup is wrong. In real life the wheel should be right at the Croupies elbow to avoid players tring to tamper with it.

[Moby]

Obi, thanks very much for that link it helped a lot.

Seeing it with the 'vendor' only points up something... the table setup is wrong. In real life the wheel should be right at the Croupies elbow to avoid players tring to tamper with it.

Hmmm, not sure about that. I think it's correct because the croupier needs access to the whole table, and other employees are watching out for cheating. I will make sure though. The wheel might be made bigger.

http://img274.imageshack.us/img274/4273/untitledww5.jpg
http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/5959/untitledrk7.jpg

I think the extra polys is worth it.

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

Definately!! :up:

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Looks great! :up: Nice to see it in pounds as well rather than dollars... ;) Meteor Valley just wouldn't look right if the currencies were wrong.

[Plokoon111]

This rocks great job!

[ziggles]

This is going to be one of the coolest packs ever

[StarRngr4.0]

hmm... after doing a Google image search you may be right. Therefore I retract my concern.

[rideslover]

wow the chips on the table. how about slot machine? crap table? I want to build casino next to amusement park for RCT3...

[Startours_3000]

Hey thats wicked, lol it would be cool if you could make it have the ATM Settings and get money out of it lol, but u would lose the Person then wouldn't ya.

[Moby]

Hey thats wicked, lol it would be cool if you could make it have the ATM Settings and get money out of it lol, but u would lose the Person then wouldn't ya.

Hmmm, interesting idea, maybe i could add the ATM as a separate stall in the same spot, and invisible. But i'm really focusing on the scenery side of things, not functionality.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

^ Are you sure can make ATM's? I only thought it was the standard custom stalls you could do...

I look forward to your new update which *checks watch* should be here in the next few minutes. :)

[Moby]

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2299/shot0008twd8.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1778/shot0009tuk7.jpg

The textures aren't 100% perfect but i think i got them pretty darn good. They will improve.
The only thing i don't like here is the 2D appearance of the main ball area. But that can't really be got around.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Wow... that looks great! :up:

[Belgabor]

^ Are you sure can make ATM's? I only thought it was the standard custom stalls you could do...

I look forward to your new update which *checks watch* should be here in the next few minutes. :)

I smell a hidden double posting there :p

Regarding ATMs I have good and bad news.
The good news is ATMs and medical centres are safe to use, in contrast to toilets they don't use animation (set unknowns to 10000 and -7500). The bad news is both do not use any effect points, which means that the peep positions are hard-coded.

[rideslover]

Wow! Great Work Moby. Cheer up.
Terminator 2 is pretty good.
how about Roller Coaster Tycoon Pinball?

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8631/rctpinballjc5.png (http://imageshack.us)

[J-Playa]

WOW! Great work Moby.
This is just a suggestion like the other ones but what like

House of the dead 4 ? ...
I have'nt seen any, scary...arcade before made by anyone else. :rolleyes:
http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/7489/2005881374847401692_fs.jpg

Or maybe
Jurassic park arcade game

http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/6559/2005845883129739149_fs.jpg

This are only suggestions :up: Great work, keep it up...:cool:

rideslover - That rollercoaster pinball has been made in another pack, just to let you know

NUKECLEAR FISH , LOL. YOUR SIG IS SO FISHY! :haha:

[Moby]

- That rollercoaster pinball has been made in another pack, just to let you know

Oh yeah? What pack? I'd like to check it out so i don't do any duplicates.

[J-Playa]

I think its called JSL-Arcade apck ?

[Moby]

^I saw it, nice pack, but no recent signs of life.

On a different note;
:mad: :mad: :mad:

Bad news. Having recently reformatted this PC, i've lost the early model files. Being the 'always in a rush' muppet i am, i forget to backup the 3ds files as they're stored somewhere in program files. I do have all the ASEs, all the OVLs, and all the importer files, but some objects (Pac-man especially) aren't right and need improving.

So does anyone know of a way of importing ASE files into a 3D modeller, preferably 3ds Max?

I really don't want to have to start from scratch on some of these objects.

[Belgabor]

Well, I guess as ASE is a 3DSMax file format it should be able to open them directly...

[Moby]

But i can't, it says open failed on the 3 ways ive tried (file open; open with; and dragging into the open program)!??

In the File open menu the listed formats are;

.max
.drf
.chr

[Belgabor]

Maybe it's an import option?

[rideslover]

Moby how about Roller Coaster Tycoon Pinball Machine? I did showed you a picture????

[Moby]

Maybe it's an import option?

I tried to import it, the error said;
>No appropriate import module found.
Followed by;
>Improper file format.

Have you done it in Blender?

Moby how about Roller Coaster Tycoon Pinball Machine? I did showed you a picture????

Great idea, but as J-Playa said it has been done before by JaySL. So I will not do it.

[Belgabor]

Yes, you can import ase in Blender, but you need an import script. I think I use the one on this page (http://www.quake3bits.com/htm/tools_utilities.htm).

[Moby]

This is awesome. Using animated textures i've rebuilt pacman now with an animated screen. It looks great, and i was surprised how well the game handled it on this low-end pc. Here's the texture i used, it lost quality when i converted to gif, it comes out much better in-game.
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8370/pacmankt6.gif

And here's a short vid of it in action. <<<DIRECT DOWNLOAD (1MB)>>> (www.freewebs.com/higradeproductions/pacman.wmv)

Thankyou so much Belgabor for making this possible and for all the help you've given me. I look forward to making more CS with animated textures. I think nearly anything is possible using animated alpha textures (in theory).

[Toddthefox]

YAY PAC-MAN MY FAVE THING EVER!!!

[Master_Player09]

^You like Pac-Man??? It's pretty oveus . :p

[J-Playa]

WOW! So you used a animated texture :noob: and it actually worked in the game hey well done. Did you make that texture?

[-Nuclear Fish-]

I'm sure I replied to this yesterday... ah well... looks great! :up:

[Plokoon111]

animated good job

[J-Playa]

May i ask how you made that animated...?

Great Work.

[Jag100]

Great Job i really like the animated pacman but will there be a rollercoaster tycoon pinball machine that would be great to see

[Moby]

Thanks for the comments.

@J-Playa - I had to make each frame individually. I started with 2 pics, used simple animation tequniques in 3ds Max to make the frames, then imported them into the importer. It's a long process but i think the end result is great.

@Jag100 - That pinball machine was made by someone else in a different pack, so there's not much point in me doing it.

__________________________________________________________________

Here's a GIF i made with screens from the game of Pac-man.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6629/pacmangifvd9.gif

T2 Pinball has had a little makeover. It has been slightly rescaled, and a glass screen has been added.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7979/tslj8.jpg

Next up - many different slot machines!

[J-Playa]

You use 3D Max right?
Is that free?

[Moby]

'Fraid not. It's actually a multi-thousand dollar program. But i think there is a free trial version you could get.

[J-Playa]

Okey dokes :up:

May i ask where do you actually get your textures from? e.g the terminator pinaball? That has be UV-Mapped soo well.

[Moby]

May i ask where do you actually get your textures from? e.g the terminator pinaball? That has be UV-Mapped soo well.

Just extensive, exhaustive net browsing. And yes, it takes me much, much longer to find and map the textures than it does to model the objects.

[J-Playa]

I fought so. So, whats next in this pack then?

[Mattt]

*chants*

DDR!
DDR!
DDR!
DDR!

DDR would be amazing to have in the game, haha.

[Moby]

DDR would be amazing to have in the game, haha.

Maybe.

__________________________________________________________________

T2 Pinball has been animated. I tried placing lots and lots of my objects as a test and when i zoomed in on T2 pinball the game unfortunately crashed. If this is a persisting error i will make sure it's fixed before release.

Again quality was lost when making this GIF.
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2749/t2gifwz7.gif

[-Drop Zone-]

:up:

[kylr23]

nice i cant wait im delaying k.a.a.f.p m.a to but a desent arcade in it






kyle

[Vodhin]

Hey, I like all the great stuff you've been able to do-You're really coming along with the fancy stuff.... Nice job! :D

[MeJayBe]

This stuff is awesome! Can't wait for the release... I may even use it in my park.

[Moby]

Thanks for the great comments. If they'd stop, so would progress in this thread.
Vodhin - thanks, means a lot coming from you.

________________________________________________________________________

Slot Machines

I've created five different slot machines. I've made them as three in a line in one object. This is so they fit together neatly, if they were 1/4 tile each, there would be big gaps between each one and it wouldn't look right. However this means that you can't place only one. Let me know if you like it this way.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7182/shot0084ed6.jpg

Haywire;
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8189/shot0086or7.jpg

Shockwave;
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/761/shot0087xk2.jpg

Double Diamond;
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/940/shot0089tw0.jpg

Triple Diamond;
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2031/shot0088ml8.jpg

The Munsters;
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6938/shot0090xu0.jpg

[rctman12]

nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love this set

[J-Playa]

wow, like the Munsters :up: Keep up the good work.

[Keckhs]

You could try making offsets of each, like Shyguy did with his windows. I.E. the Haywire slot machine in the center could have it's text string as something like 'Haywire', while the other machines would be known as 'Haywire offset 1' and 'Harwire offset 2' (or you could try 'Haywire center', 'Haywire right', and 'Haywire left' if your worried at all about copying). This way we'll be able to place, for instance, a Haywire, a Triple Diamond, and a Shockwave all in the same square. Actually, you might want to do this to other objects in your set, so we could do complete walls of games for a packed arcade look. Of course, this is only a suggestion.

By the way, I'm really beginning to like this set. I look forward to downloading it. :)

[-Nuclear Fish-]

I thought they were called fruit machines... :noob:

[errt]

Wow, these slot machines are great. But I think, what Keckhs said is the best way.

[Plokoon111]

You have truley have the abiltiy to make this alsome set! I love it all! The animated textures rock!

[coinich]

Whoa! :eek:

I suppose animated slots are a bit much to ask here? :noob:

[pteri3]

looking VERY cool. maybe you could just make certain parts of arcade (the screen, chairs, designs) then we could mix and match. (that probably didn't make any sense though :)

[Moby]

You could try making offsets of each, like Shyguy did with his windows. I.E. the Haywire slot machine in the center could have it's text string as something like 'Haywire', while the other machines would be known as 'Haywire offset 1' and 'Harwire offset 2' (or you could try 'Haywire center', 'Haywire right', and 'Haywire left' if your worried at all about copying). This way we'll be able to place, for instance, a Haywire, a Triple Diamond, and a Shockwave all in the same square. Actually, you might want to do this to other objects in your set, so we could do complete walls of games for a packed arcade look. Of course, this is only a suggestion.

By the way, I'm really beginning to like this set. I look forward to downloading it. :)

Thanks. With your idea, it would mean at least 15 objects just for the slot machines. More versatile, but less user friendly. If more people want this than don't, that's what i'll do.;)

I thought they were called fruit machines... :noob:

Hmmm, maybe you're right. I think that might be an English expression. For anyone who doesn't know that expression: no, they don't give out pieces of fruit!

Whoa! :eek:

I suppose animated slots are a bit much to ask here? :noob:

Which part do you want animated?;)

looking VERY cool. maybe you could just make certain parts of arcade (the screen, chairs, designs) then we could mix and match. (that probably didn't make any sense though :)

Not sure exactly what you mean, but within the slot machines, the models are the same, just the textures are different. So having the screen and the rest as seperate objects wouldn't make a difference. If that's what you meant:weird:

@Plokoon111, errt, J-Playa, Rctman12 -

Thanks very much.

[StayingDead]

Looking awsome. Well done Moby!

[Belgabor]

Thanks. With your idea, it would mean at least 15 objects just for the slot machines. More versatile, but less user friendly. If more people want this than don't, that's what i'll do.;)

It's only three per texture, and using the model transformation matrix you only need to model it once =)

[Moby]

It's only three per texture, and using the model transformation matrix you only need to model it once =)

Yes i meant it would be 15 to browse through in the scenery menu which is less user friendly. I can easily transform the objects, if desired.

[rideslover]

Wow, I am very happy with you Moby, Good Work! I could build hotel and casino at my RCT3 park. what about the poker table? or craptable?

[Belgabor]

Yes i meant it would be 15 to browse through in the scenery menu which is less user friendly. I can easily transform the objects, if desired.

Make them a separate group :)

[Moby]

Wow, I am very happy with you Moby, Good Work! I could build hotel and casino at my RCT3 park. what about the poker table? or craptable?

Coming soon;)

Make them a separate group :)

Do you mean seperate theme? Can i make a group within the theme?

[rideslover]

Oh I forget to tell you moby.

how about electronic slot machine like computer as pic you know?

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/536/electricslotwm3.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8462/slot3bl9.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3327/slot2hd9.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7474/slot1om7.png (http://imageshack.us)

please let me know if have a good idea?

[Albert Caine]

Its perfect you always see slots in a row and not single so its realistic how you made them. When can we download them?

[VIPERHAWK2K4]

could you also make them at angles?

[Moby]

Oh I forget to tell you moby.

how about electronic slot machine like computer as pic you know?

please let me know if have a good idea?

Yeah, good idea. If i can get the resources, it's another chance to do a nice animated texture. :)

Its perfect you always see slots in a row and not single so its realistic how you made them. When can we download them?

Thanks. You'll have to wait until it's all finished and works perfect. I want this to be a really great set. I might release a BETA version to test it on different systems.

could you also make them at angles?

I could do, but that would mean twice the models. And if i do the offset idea for each machine there would be 60 models in the menu to browse through.:eek: Too many, i feel. I would like to hear some suggestions or requests on this.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

I could do, but that would mean twice the models. And if i do the offset idea for each machine there would be 60 models in the menu to browse through.:eek: Too many, i feel. I would like to hear some suggestions or requests on this.

It depends how you want us to use your set. If you made just one or two variations of each thing, we wouldn't be able to be very origianl with them. People would just put them in their park quickly and not be able to be extremely creative.

If you made more variations, such as offset and diagonal peices, we can make much more detailed and unique arcades. Every park won't just use them and look exactly the same, as we'll be able to make lots of different layouts.

I wuld prefer it if you made diagonal versions.

[-Drop Zone-]

Here are some ideas Moby!

Streetbike game
http://media.nasaexplores.com/02-015/PRI-GRAND-SIMULATOR-RIDE.jpg


Waverunner game
http://www.ncsx.com/www/waverunm.jpg

[kylr23]

how aboult ddr
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8253/o2lh9.jpg

[RyanW22]

OMG i love this set!!

cant wait for the download!!!!!!!

:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[Jonnyears]

Have you done a Penny Pusher yet, i'd love to
have a couple of those in my parks!

[Moby]

It depends how you want us to use your set. If you made just one or two variations of each thing, we wouldn't be able to be very origianl with them. People would just put them in their park quickly and not be able to be extremely creative.

If you made more variations, such as offset and diagonal peices, we can make much more detailed and unique arcades. Every park won't just use them and look exactly the same, as we'll be able to make lots of different layouts.

I wuld prefer it if you made diagonal versions.
When i download sets i always prefer to see many variations of objects, so more unique ideas can be realised as you say. I'm thinking now of doing a seperate set called 'Slot Machines' with a selection of variations i.e. some diagonal, some offset. Total maybe 20 objects. This is kind of how the original game scenery was designed with some wallsets with diagonal, some with curves, some without 1/3H etc.

Let me know what you think peeps.

Here are some ideas Moby!
Streetbike game http://media.nasaexplores.com/02-015/PRI-GRAND-SIMULATOR-RIDE.jpg
Waverunner gamehttp://www.ncsx.com/www/waverunm.jpg

I would ideally like to do these with benches so peeps can sit on them but i think that would be very hard so someone please tell me either how to do that, or not to bother, just have them as objects.

how aboult ddr
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8253/o2lh9.jpg

There have been many requests for this but i was warned not to for copyright reasons. Still a possibility. Maybe i'll release a disclaimer with this set - 'no responsibility taken and use at your own risk' or something.

OMG i love this set!!

Thanks.

Have you done a Penny Pusher yet, i'd love to
have a couple of those in my parks!

This is one piece I would really like to have in the set. So far i've had trouble finding good textures for it but i'll keep trying.

[osudenny]

Love to see you come out with multi packs like Vodhin, Shyguy and Iceatcs. This way our interest is always at a peek and we could use some of these great games in the games we are triing to make. Your objects are perfect. Your work is great and thank you so much for what you are doing for RCT 3 community

[Belgabor]

When i download sets i always prefer to see many variations of objects, so more unique ideas can be realised as you say. I'm thinking now of doing a seperate set called 'Slot Machines' with a selection of variations i.e. some diagonal, some offset. Total maybe 20 objects. This is kind of how the original game scenery was designed with some wallsets with diagonal, some with curves, some without 1/3H etc.

Let me know what you think peeps.
Sounds like a good idea.


I would ideally like to do these with benches so peeps can sit on them but i think that would be very hard so someone please tell me either how to do that, or not to bother, just have them as objects.
I think Vodhin posted a howto somewhere, but in this case I recommend against it. Peeps would sit on it like on benches, turn to each other and talk and so on, which would probably look odd on these.


There have been many requests for this but i was warned not to for copyright reasons. Still a possibility. Maybe i'll release a disclaimer with this set - 'no responsibility taken and use at your own risk' or something.
I don't think that would protect you. In your place I wouldn't take risks and follow the advice not to make recent or still very popular things.

[Moby]

Thanks Belgabor, and thanks Osudenny. What a nice comment.

___________________________________________________________________

I've made the Penny Pusher, for which i made all the textures myself.
The problem is, the glass showed up only at some angles of view in the game. And when i zoomed in on it, it crashed the game. A similar problem is happening with the T2 pinball (also includes glass). I tried having the glass as a seperate mesh, and it didn't show up at all. Here you can see, no glass. Help/advice on glass needed!

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5489/shot0094jc5.jpg

[rideslover]

Awesome! Moby.

just look like penny pusher? It's Quarters Pusher off the edge and win for the tickets. felt like Tilt video games as win a tickets.

How about Skeeball?

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

Well, did you use cook's findings for glass? Just map on the glass a black texture, and use a black alpha, and make the style glass....I think that's what worked...

EDIT: rideslover, shyguy made skeeballs in Circus center 2...

[Moby]

Thanks Obi. What's 'Cook Findings'? Got a link?

I tried what you said, but the same thing happened. I tried the black alpha with SIAlphaMaskReflection and this is what i got. It's not bad, but not as good as glass. At least it showed up and didn't crash the game. I'll try it with a grey alpha, should show up better.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8227/untitledkp3.jpg


just look like penny pusher? It's Quarters Pusher off the edge and win for the tickets. felt like Tilt video games as win a tickets.


Sorry, what?!

[rideslover]

Oh look like a quarter toss in and push the quarters try to get off the edge if one or two quarters can fell off the edge and you can win and got tickets from machine. I show you the picture look like that.

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5794/quarterpushergm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Obi_Wan_Cannoli]

Thanks Obi. What's 'Cook Findings'? Got a link?

I tried what you said, but the same thing happened. I tried the black alpha with SIAlphaMaskReflection and this is what i got. It's not bad, but not as good as glass. At least it showed up and didn't crash the game. I'll try it with a grey alpha, should show up better.

Whoops, sorry, not Cook, MaxInfinity, here's the thread...it's all explained there...http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=551710&highlight=Glass

Also, I meant SIglass texture style. Try it like that, it should work, if you follow MaxInfinity's thread...

[osudenny]

Any update?? Love to have it for a download. I can hardly wait. It is still alive isn't it???

[rctmaniac]

those items look awesome moby! this will rock in our parks!!

[CoasterMouse]

You should make ddr. That would be the ultimate piece for an arcade. Great Work

[Cedar Point]

Hooray for Editing!

[Moby]

No update now, but i assure you is still very much alive. Just tweaking objects for optimal performance now. There will be more objects, though (the casino side needs adding to).

Hooray for Editing!
???

[Jonnyears]

I think that they said something, then decided that
they didn't want to say it,

They then replaced i with 'Hooray for editing'

[osudenny]

Moby any ideas when we can try this wonderful pack out??

[Pate]

Hey, moby, what about...nah, just kidding :D
The set is just amazing. I'm now just about thinking of recreating that new york-themed casino in las vegas with the coaster outside using this pack, lol:)
--Hey, that idea is copyright, uh??

[°Celsius]

Did you say something about beta testing?

Whe ever you need some testers im here for you, ive been following this since the first couple posts but havent posted, im not a big poster.

But i think its finally time for me to tell you how much i love this, ive been waiting for a great arcade se like this, its wonderful. Really nice job.

[chickenwing]

i agree wiv
kylr23 one of those dance machines would be awesome
and that cyclone one
cnt wait 4 download

[Cedar Point]

I think that they said something, then decided that
they didn't want to say it,

They then replaced i with 'Hooray for editing'
Correct! You may now choose your fabulous prize!:p

[Moby]

Thanks for the comments.

Okay here's the deal;

This set is not complete, and some of the current objects aren't perfect. I would like to know how these objects work on different systems, but i don't want loads of people complaining it crashed their game, set their computer on fire and burnt their house down. So, i'm going to hold a little contest of related questions, and the few winners will be able to test this set as it stands. First question coming tomorrow.

Now about progress, i think i am going to remove the Roulette stall and the slot machines and put them in my next set, Moby's Casino Games. This will allow for more pieces in each, including diagonals and offsets. Feedback appreciated.

Also please be aware I am still taking offers. I wont do DDR because of copyright, but i might do an MDR, Moby's Dance Revolution!

[kylr23]

:D mobys revoultion:Dnice one do it do it

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Can't wait for these questions...

[RCT-Spanky]

I like the idea with the Casino Games as an extra pack.

I would like to know how these objects work on different systems, but i don't want loads of people complaining it crashed their game, set their computer on fire and burnt their house down.
Are you sure, that your set current set will have this effects? :)
But it's good to know, that you don't just a release your set with a final test.

I'm curious about the question. But I would suggest, that you only allow to send you the answer as PM. If the first one gives the answer inside the thread, the whole quiz is just a fake.

[Moby]

I'm curious about the question. But I would suggest, that you only allow to send you the answer as PM. If the first one gives the answer inside the thread, the whole quiz is just a fake.

Well, some Qs will be 'whoever gets closest' fashion, and others will be 'first come, first won' fashion. For the first type - the earlier the entry, the more extra points awarded. So don't hang around waiting for others' answers as clues - it wont help. Also any edited answers will lose all extra points.

It will be fair, and it wont be easy.

[rideslover]

when is download your arcades and casinos? are you finish?

[Moby]

BETA TEST CONTEST
Be the first to try out this set!

QUESTION #1

How many polygons are there in the Penny Pusher object?
Note that a polygon in this case is a flat shape, consisting of one or more 3 sided faces - e.g. A cube has 6 polygons.
The closest answer wins most points.
Here's the pic;
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8227/untitledkp3.jpg

-You have 48 hours to post your answer.
-Earliest entries get extra points.
-Edited posts lose extra points.

Good luck!

[RCT-master7]

um, i'd say about 90.

[UberBunny]

150! I hope i win!:D

[rctmaniac]

67 :p

[~Motorola]

50! I bet they are all sep.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

I'm going to say 98.

[Dkimber1974]

how about 110

[kylr23]

500 polys

[Kev4567]

250...i doubt im going to win, but worth a shot...

[-Drop Zone-]

45..

[andrewhurley13]

45 :)

:O:O:O Drop zone! gahh

Um , 40 then.

[marnetmar]

BETA TEST CONTEST
Be the first to try out this set!

QUESTION #1

How many polygons are there in the Penny Pusher object?

I'll guess 156

[rt3dude]

275... Hope I get it

[Rtoups]

170...I hope its right!

[rideslover]

I guess... 300.. I hope....

[Jonnyears]

501- Aren't I sneaky!

[Teirmose]

I guess 35. Your set looks great.

[Jonnyears]

It's got to be pretty high because I worked the
top bit to be about 29 polys, it's probably much more
than that though!

[infiniteblue]

73 polys

[errt]

I would say about 350 polys?

[LightGrenades]

217.

[AJM]

i guess 97 polys

[Chickenselects]

What the hay 321...

[osudenny]

oh I will take a stab at it - 396

[pteri3]

um....86? what do we actually win lol?

[Soda Jerk 205]

256ish

[Usf geek]

69...... Someone was going to say it sooner or later......

[bim42]

I guess 94...
Great set BTW :D

/Bim\

[Moby]

Great to see a lot of people taking part. Some people have come very close. This contest is open until 5pm (Atari time) tonight then i'll be posting the winner and ... a new object.

I decided not to include Time-Crisis 4, so instead, i bring to you;

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/1311/untitledve3.jpg

[coasterfreak]

I'll take a stab at it 454 polys. just a guess!!!

[Moby]

The correct answer was 99. AJM was 2 away, Nuclear fish was 1 away. Well done NF, you're the first winner.

Question 2 coming soon.

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And here's the latest object - 'Clock Battles 4'. Complete with animated texture and lighting;

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/3636/shot0107gh0.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9469/shot0106vn7.jpg
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[-Nuclear Fish-]

Wow, that looks absolutely amazing! Your scenery is looking so realistic I'm amazed that it was only a couple of months ago you were trying to learn how to do it, you've come such a long way. It jut looks so perfect... :up:

And YAY! I won! :D Can I ask where the extra face is on it? Using my knowledge that it was octagonal and realising there were 12 visible faces on each side plus the top and bottom ones I came to 98 (only took me about a minute to work out).

So where is the 99th? :bulb:

[Moby]

Thanks a lot NF

Erm, i'm not sure about the Polys. I counted 84. Computer says no.

[J-Playa]

Very nice Moby, this set is great! Whats next? :D