rctmaniac's Racing MaNiA-RELEASED! 24/01/07 [Archive]

rctmaniac

01-18-2007, 04:56 PM

rctmaniac's Racing Mania

Release Day: Released!

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/438/racinglogo7uc.gif

Click to download racingmania.exe (http://jackfranklin2.cabspace.com/rctmaniac/racingmania.exe)
Instructions are all in the program.

Click to download racingmania.zip (http://jackfranklin2.cabspace.com/rctmaniac/racingmania.zip)
PLEASE read the 'readme' before installing, as it will tell you what do to. It is very simple, but please before posting with a problem make sure, triple check, that you have installed it correctly.

This set has been tested by 3 testers but as with all sets things may be missed. If you find a bug/problem please post it in this thread and obviously it will be dealt with.

I thank the following people for helping me with this set:

osudenny, DKimber1974, Don1963
---For taking the time to beta test this pack

Belgabor, Jonwil, The_Cook and Vodhin
---For developing the RCT3 importer and writing many tutorials which helped me with this set

Sorry to any I have missed. I will add more as I remember.

Update List

-->Update 1-Some very simple MS pics (1st Post)
-->Update 2-Some in game pics of flags (19th Post) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8318492&postcount=19)
-->Update 3-A new fence, and some MS pics of tyres and stripes. (26th Post) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8320753&postcount=26)
-->Update 4-Ingame pics of the stripes, tyres and the bridge. (30th Post) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8321838&postcount=30)
-->Update 5-New tyres, and billboards problems (so close though) (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8322675&postcount=33)
-->Update 5-Working Billboard, Road Pieces, Winner's stand, stackable fence. Big Update (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8324970&postcount=41)
-->Update 6-New Loud Speaker and new road pieces (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8326780&postcount=43).

The 3 beta-testing places have been taken. Thanks to osudenny, DKimber1974 and Don1963 for volunteering.

Any ideas, comments, etc most welcome :)

Jack

Jonnyears

01-18-2007, 05:03 PM

Well done! Those look fantastic,
I wont say about all of the good thinks because
I don't think that you will find that useful- Instead
I'll say about the 1 not so good bit,

You know the steps- I know that you said that you will
change them slightly but the texture looks abit odd, especially
on the verticle parts

Good luck with the rest of it- Looking forward to the next update!

Dkimber1974

01-18-2007, 05:04 PM

wow good idea!! :D

rctmaniac

01-18-2007, 05:05 PM

but the texture looks abit odd, especially
on the verticle parts

Yes, I agree. I will use a wrong texture-can I ask if anyone has a metallic recourable texture they would send to me?-Thanks for the comments jonnyears

Thanks

Belgabor

01-18-2007, 05:11 PM

It's not wrong, only mapped badly ;)
I guess the texture is seamless, so just overshoot the mapping (ie map one texture only to a fraction of a face), then it will look alright. Also keep the mappings aspect ratio same to the face.

Maverick2007

01-18-2007, 05:28 PM

You should do a Christmas tree light thing!

Belgabor

01-18-2007, 05:53 PM

Oh, and the checkered flag looks a bit strange, too. I'd elongate the pole to the top.

Vodhin

01-18-2007, 06:04 PM

Easiest way to map tiled textures in Milkshape is to use the Tile Texture Mapper tool in the Tools menu. If you want the texture to repeat 5 times in the x axis and 5 times in the y axis, just enter 5 for those values (if text or other 'face' texture is used, you need to use negative values: -5 and -5, for example).

Jonnyears

01-18-2007, 06:12 PM

Oh, and the checkered flag looks a bit strange, too. I'd elongate the pole to the top.

I didn't notice that!
It should be changed before the release

Sorry that we have given you alot of criticism, it has
been quite a bit

Belgabor

01-18-2007, 06:28 PM

I don't think you need to be sorry. At least for me putting up screenshots of my work in progress is also to get constructive criticism, and what we've done so far was constructive :p

Jonnyears

01-18-2007, 06:41 PM

OK, you are correct in saying that
I really hope that you manage to sort these
two problems out and I hope to see an update soon!

rctmaniac

01-19-2007, 03:02 AM

wow good idea!! :D
Thanks :)
You should do a Christmas tree light thing!
I remember Hotrodude did one of those, so I might not.
It's not wrong, only mapped badly ;)
I guess the texture is seamless, so just overshoot the mapping (ie map one texture only to a fraction of a face), then it will look alright. Also keep the mappings aspect ratio same to the face.
OK will give it a shot :)

Oh, and the checkered flag looks a bit strange, too. I'd elongate the pole to the top.
Thanks! I knew there was something wrong with the pole!
Easiest way to map tiled textures in Milkshape is to use the Tile Texture Mapper tool in the Tools menu. If you want the texture to repeat 5 times in the x axis and 5 times in the y axis, just enter 5 for those values (if text or other 'face' texture is used, you need to use negative values: -5 and -5, for example).
Thank you-is there anything you dont know :p?

I didn't notice that!
It should be changed before the release

Sorry that we have given you alot of criticism, it has
been quite a bit
Dont owrry about the critisism, it all helps me improve as a CS designer and imporves the pack :)
I don't think you need to be sorry. At least for me putting up screenshots of my work in progress is also to get constructive criticism, and what we've done so far was constructive :p
Yep :)
OK, you are correct in saying that
I really hope that you manage to sort these
two problems out and I hope to see an update soon!

There should be an update this evening

Thanks all for you comments, much appreciated :)

maniac

Jonnyears

01-19-2007, 10:39 AM

This is what pleases me when it comes to CS, a
creator that listens to the fans- Not many
people reply to everyone but i'm pleased that you
do it

Your set is just being added to the list now,
Sorry that I didn't do it yesterday when you announced it

rctmaniac

01-19-2007, 10:45 AM

Obi_Wan_Cannoli

01-19-2007, 12:27 PM

yeah, it should be mapped on the object like 20 times, not once.

rctmaniac

01-19-2007, 12:44 PM

yeah, it should be mapped on the object like 20 times, not once.

Ok, thanks.

Just a quick update, the new flag with the elongated pole.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3563/checkeredflagnewmsgc0.jpg

There will be an update tonight I hope.

zordork

01-19-2007, 04:31 PM

Yes, I agree. I will use a wrong texture-can I ask if anyone has a metallic recourable texture they would send to me?

Thanks

I recomend this site to get textures from, they have almost everything you could possibly need:

http://www.texturewarehouse.com/gallery/index.php

Jonnyears

01-19-2007, 04:38 PM

That website is good!
I'll be looking for my textures from there

That elongated flag pole looks much better now,
I am really pleased with how well this has been going
so far, keep up the good work!

rctmaniac

01-19-2007, 04:47 PM

I recomend this site to get textures from, they have almost everything you could possibly need:

http://www.texturewarehouse.com/gallery/index.php
Thanks zodork, I will check it out.
That website is good!
I'll be looking for my textures from there

That elongated flag pole looks much better now,
I am really pleased with how well this has been going
so far, keep up the good work!

Thanks :)

Ok, this update is not huge. I am a big snooker fan and have been hooked to the TV, and have been playing it (got a 6 ft table for me bday :)). Also now I am doing GCSE I have loads of coursework so I get less time on RCT3, but I do as much as I can. Ok, screens. The lines point to things I want you to see :)

Notes:

The stand is not textured fully and needs unwelding + adjusting, I just wanted to show you it so you could see the size of it compared to peeps.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5866/ingameflagsstandpeepskn5.jpg
Here you can see the size relation between peeps and the stand (which still needs work, nothing new done on that)

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6656/ingamestandflagslf2.jpg
here are the flags, the diag flag is on a corner and needs a small alignment, the vert flag is in the centre of the square

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4714/diagandstraightflagsls0.jpg
And here are the flags..

Should be an update over weekend :)

Maniac

Novix

01-19-2007, 04:52 PM

Dude, you should word on those stairs.. :p

Obi_Wan_Cannoli

01-19-2007, 04:59 PM

Looks okay, but like you said, those stairs need resizing and unwelding.

Dkimber1974

01-19-2007, 07:02 PM

Ya the stairs are too big.

-Drop Zone-

01-19-2007, 07:04 PM

Can't wait!

rctmaniac

01-20-2007, 04:01 AM

Dude, you should word on those stairs.. :p
:p :)
Looks okay, but like you said, those stairs need resizing and unwelding.
Ok, thanks

Ya the stairs are too big.
Yep I know, but I wanted to see what you peeps think, I will work on them today.
Can't wait!
Thank you :)

Update in the evening mainly just on the stand/stairs

Jonnyears

01-20-2007, 04:46 AM

Cool- I'm looking forward to an update!
Good luck with it

rctmaniac

01-20-2007, 04:42 PM

Cool- I'm looking forward to an update!
Good luck with it
Here is an update :)

Some probs with importing and aligning, so 1 in game pic and some MS pics for ya.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9936/redandwhitestripes4ai.png
This are the stripes you see round the edge of racing tracks.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2377/shot00039hy.png
This is an ingame pic of a fence, that you often see round a track. It uses an alpha, needs slight adjustments.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/12/tyre1ql.png
Another MS pic, this of a tyre which should be stackable.

Update tomoz evening, although I have loads of homework :( lol.

rctmaniac

PS: the new, simple Mania site is up, click the link in my sig for all the downloads.

Jonnyears

01-20-2007, 04:45 PM

Very nice! I especially like that tyre
Glad that you got a new site but I think that you might
get into trouble with your signature- It's 6 lines on my computer

rctmaniac

01-20-2007, 06:00 PM

Very nice! I especially like that tyre
Glad that you got a new site but I think that you might
get into trouble with your signature- It's 6 lines on my computer
Thanks jonnyears. About the sig-yeh, I forgot that rule, I changed it now :)

Jonnyears

01-20-2007, 06:04 PM

I hate that rule!

I really like this and I look forward to seeing the
next update- Shame about your homework though!

rctmaniac

01-21-2007, 04:38 AM

I hate that rule!

I really like this and I look forward to seeing the
next update- Shame about your homework though!

lol.

Just got time for an update now before homework...:( Probs update tonight as well though :).

Did alot in about 1 hour, got the tyres and stripes into the game, plus I made something else which I think you will like.

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/11/ingamestripesandtyres9ks.gif
There's the tyres and the stripes.
Note-The tyres wont stack one on top of the other-they seem to 'jump' up to certain heights-is there a way to fix it?

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5681/ingamegokartentrance2tu.gif
I decided to use a go-kart track to illustrate my pieces to you all, it might make the update more interesting then just pics of pieces. Here is the entrance to the go kart, with the flags and you can just see the fence (which is stackable and seemless by the way :))

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9365/ingamebridge3nd.gif
Here we have the bridge, it is not 100% aligned to the square correctly and also the path is not as steep and the ramp on the bridge-does anyone have ideas how to sort this? Does someone have dimensions/angles of path slopes? If you do please PM or post them to show me. Thanks :)

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8977/ingameoverviewe0qt.gif
This is the overview, as you can see, you can scroll a long way out and they wont disappear. Go much further and the stripes disappear however.

Hope you peeps enjoy that, more to come.

Jonnyears

01-21-2007, 04:56 AM

Nice pictures,

One thing that I noticed was about the tires- Are
they abit skinny, the rubber looks abit thin

Gamesonline

01-21-2007, 05:28 AM

This will be a nice addition to people who build go carts and race themed roller coasters.

rctmaniac

01-21-2007, 03:01 PM

Nice pictures,

One thing that I noticed was about the tires- Are
they abit skinny, the rubber looks abit thin
Thanks, you are right about the tyres-see below :)
This will be a nice addition to people who build go carts and race themed roller coasters.
Thanks.

Not much, spent about an hour trying to get these darn billboard/signs to work. I am almost there. Maybe someone could help?

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1722/newtyres8qn.jpg
There are the new tyres-and quarter sq aligned also for better placement :)

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9141/billprb8ld.jpg
I will give this another go, but I am almost there. Hopefully you will be able to put this sign over your track and choose your own image.

rctmaniac

-Drop Zone-

01-21-2007, 03:07 PM

Looks awsome... How about one of those flagman stands?

Jonnyears

01-21-2007, 03:18 PM

WOW- Those tyres are amazing now! Well done
Shame about the billboard though- You must be so frustrated

Looking forward to the next update!

Belgabor

01-21-2007, 09:46 PM

See the advanced tutorial for billboards and signs. It's linked in the tutorial sticky.

rctmaniac

01-22-2007, 12:31 PM

See the advanced tutorial for billboards and signs. It's linked in the tutorial sticky.
LOL_Thats what I did-oh well, I will get it eventually.
WOW- Those tyres are amazing now! Well done
Shame about the billboard though- You must be so frustrated

Looking forward to the next update!
Thanks a lot
Looks awsome... How about one of those flagman stands?

Good idea, added to the list. I have done a winners stand, you know-with the 1, 2, and 3 things.

Seeing as there seems no one hugely bothered with this set, I may put this on hold and start a new set I think would be really useful. The new set would be a set of:

1 Wall Piece, Curved Wall Piece, Curved Roof, Flat roof/path cover piece.

Every person could request a certain texture and then I would do it, the aim to have about 30 different texture sets in Set 1. What dya think?

maniac

Jonnyears

01-22-2007, 12:33 PM

I'd like to see this finished, I'm really looking forward
to it. I think that it would be good if you finished this
and then started the new one

Of course, it's completely up to you

Belgabor

01-22-2007, 12:38 PM

Ah ok =)
You need to rotate the UV mapping for the sign 180 degrees, don't ask me how to do that in MS :p

rctmaniac

01-22-2007, 01:48 PM

I'd like to see this finished, I'm really looking forward
to it. I think that it would be good if you finished this
and then started the new one

Of course, it's completely up to you

Ok, well I only have about 7 more pieces planned, so maybe the release is in a week or so? I do want some suggestions though, if you would like a race themed item, please PM or post it.

Ah ok =)
You need to rotate the UV mapping for the sign 180 degrees, don't ask me how to do that in MS :p
OK, thanks :)

rctmaniac

01-22-2007, 04:25 PM

I apologise for the double post, but how can I avoid it if no one posts? :p

Big work today. The best 2 bits of news are:

This set will be released by Feb 10th.
I got the billboards to work

On to the pics....

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7199/billboardsuccess0be.jpg
The billboard, needs a small tweak, the poles are recolourable.
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/5011/closeup4mv.jpg
Close up of the track pieces.
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/4335/overview7cl.jpg
An overview showing new pieces:
Track (Start and Middle)
Winners Stand (Look close!)
The billboards
And the new Vert Corner Flags, slightly bigger and better I think.

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/2416/roadpieces5pt.jpg
These are the road pieces, again just need to be a little bigger so there are no gaps.

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/1103/stackablefence6sh.jpg
Here is the safety fence, which is stackable :D

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4822/winnersstand8jh.jpg
And what I call: 'The Winner's Stand'. (If you cant see the tallest box says 1, the next 2 and the final box 3. I will get a close up on that later.

Hope you enjoyed that huge update (2.5 hours work) lol. More than 70% through this pack, hope you enjoy.

Please post comments, critisism, etc.
Also if you would like to beta test the pack PM me.

rctmaniac

Jonnyears

01-22-2007, 05:15 PM

rctmaniac

01-23-2007, 03:15 PM

Very nice! I'm so happy that you
decided to carry on with this because
it is such a brilliant set

Those rode pieces need to be improved because
of the gaps but I know that you said you were
going to fix that

Really looking forward to the release!

The release shall be not much longer.

Here's the plan: 2 more pieces to do (bridge pieces so you can make huge bridges) and then beta testers are emailed the link tonight. They test and post here by Thursday (or it may be Friday if they are busy). I then make adjustments that they have suggested on Friday or Saturday, and it is released Saturday or Sunday.

Letters in bold are the days I want everything to happen :p

Update...

Today I resized the road items, so there are no gaps (pic below). I also made a loudspeaker, which I am really proud of! It works as a speaker so any sounds can be played from it, it is recolourable and there are 2 versions: Centre and Corner.

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6750/loudspeakers8jd.jpg
The loud speakers.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2781/roadpieces9uz.jpg
The re-sized road pieces (plus a new piece-can you spot it ;)?)

If anyone has a item they would like to see in this pack requests must be posted in this thread by tonight, any after that will be too late, as the pack must be emailed to the beta testers by this evening. I repeat, requests no later than tonight.

edit: Imageshack is slow as hell tonight, I will get the road pieces pic up asap.
rctmaniac

Jonnyears

01-23-2007, 04:39 PM

That last update looks brilliant, if you
are taking requests, could you make a tyre
entrance Like the one on Rita (Alton Towers)
or Stealth (Thorpe Park)

Only without the fames, text etc.

If not I can make one because a Thorpe Park
set has been requested

rctmaniac

01-23-2007, 04:54 PM

Jonnyears

01-23-2007, 05:07 PM

Cool- Thanks for making that

I'm looking forward to seeing some
pictures of it

Cedar Point

01-23-2007, 06:03 PM

I didn't see an answer to your "jumping tire' problem, so I guess I'll offer a suggestion. Do you have collision detection on? If you have collision detection on, the object will jump to a "safe" height above the object below. This is to prevent peeps smacking their heads on objects that are too close to a coaster track. :p

Dkimber1974

01-23-2007, 09:53 PM

ok just a few things wrong with it. The roads still dont all line up with each other. See the pics below. Also the bridge is off a little too when you try to connect the two pieces.

http://rctrevalutions.com/staff/dkimber/Shot0164.jpg

http://rctrevalutions.com/staff/dkimber/Shot0165.jpg

http://rctrevalutions.com/staff/dkimber/Shot0166.jpg

http://rctrevalutions.com/staff/dkimber/Shot0167.jpg

andrewhurley13

01-23-2007, 10:02 PM

Those tires look very.... akward... Nice try though!

rctmaniac

01-24-2007, 02:33 AM

Cool- Thanks for making that

I'm looking forward to seeing some
pictures of it
Thanks

I didn't see an answer to your "jumping tire' problem, so I guess I'll offer a suggestion. Do you have collision detection on? If you have collision detection on, the object will jump to a "safe" height above the object below. This is to prevent peeps smacking their heads on objects that are too close to a coaster track. :p
That could be it-how to I turn collision detection on/off?

ok just a few things wrong with it. The roads still dont all line up with each other. See the pics below. Also the bridge is off a little too when you try to connect the two pieces.

Thats DKimber, I appreciate you taking the time to do that. I will make the changes.

Those tires look very.... akward... Nice try though!
Everyone to their own I suppose. I really like the tyres lol :p

RCT-Spanky

01-24-2007, 05:59 AM

rctmaniac

01-24-2007, 11:44 AM

Nice set. Some very useful items. But I have two little critics.

The tires are i.m.o. too big. They should have the same size as the ones in the go-cart-track, otherwise they look more like monstertruck-tires. You can leave them in the set and should add some smaller tires.

The poles of the security fences shouldn't match together, if you place them side by side. You should move te poles in your model, so that they look like a real continues fence, if you place them side by side (I hope you understand what I mean).

All in all a great set, that just need a little tuning, but tuning is anything in racing-sports.

Thansk for posting your opinion, it helps me imporve and also makes the pack more useful for the community.

1) The tyres-I like them as they are-maybe if I did a smaller version as well?
2) The fence-I think that is a great idea. If I add a pole at the end of each fence then they will join together better-thanks :)

The release is still going to be 27/01/06, both Spanky and Dkimber's posts show that more needs to be done and osudenny has also contacted me with his view on the pack.

Many thanks to all,

rctmaniac

-Nuclear Fish-

01-24-2007, 02:10 PM

Not bad, I look forward to using this set in Meteor Valley.

rctmaniac

01-24-2007, 02:49 PM

Not bad, I look forward to using this set in Meteor Valley.

I look forward to seeing my set in Meteor valley :D :p (lol)

rctmaniac's Racing MaNiA-RELEASED

Yep it's here, 3 days early, but it's here! 23 pieces to enhance your race tracks and parking lots. Today I added a few pieces, including Mr Ear's request, but those can be surprises :)

So, here it is, the downloads:

Click to download racingmania.exe (http://jackfranklin2.cabspace.com/rctmaniac/racingmania.exe)
Instructions are all in the program.

Click to download racingmania.zip (http://jackfranklin2.cabspace.com/rctmaniac/racingmania.zip)
PLEASE read the 'readme' before installing, as it will tell you what do to. It is very simple, but please before posting with a problem make sure, triple check, that you have installed it correctly.

This set has been tested by 3 testers but as with all sets things may be missed. If you find a bug/problem please post it in this thread and obviously it will be dealt with.

I thank the following people for helping me with this set:

osudenny, DKimber1974, Don1963
---For taking the time to beta test this pack

Belgabor, Jonwil, The_Cook and Vodhin
---For developing the RCT3 importer and writing many tutorials which helped me with this set

Sorry to any I have missed. I will add more as I remember.

I would also love to see pics of this set in action in your parks, so please do post your pictures here :)

Enjoy!!

rctmaniac