Dragon Ball Z: Sparking! Meteor Suggestions

[VBG]

awesome ideas, that is all I can say.

[super2989]

idk maybe its only that thinks this but for broly i think for the next one they should make that when you transform into rssj you can do a transformation into sjj like goku does with kaio-ken. meaning you press L2 ^ O and you see him get a bit bigger and his aura get bigger and you become max mode and get another ultimate. now to depower yourself you press L2 ^ O and then you see him go AAHHH boom you go down to rssj and back to zero ki. what you think cool huh ?



when he goes in ssj his bands around his arms and head don't break

TO SSJVEGETA_ver3 i don't really think ssj1 for broly is really a transformation so thats why i would perfer it to be a sort of power up. like the way i put it ^^^ bu thats just me ill explain later i have to go see ya

[Kazuha Vinland]

Nice idea. I have already put him at my character list as a transformation. I think that kaioken is more used as a power up than a transformation. Therefore it goes under the category Blast 1 moves or Techniques which I prefer to call it for Tenkaichi 3. So does Super Kaioken. But RSSJ is a own transformation. Really good idea though ;)

I have made a thread for a realistic character list. Be sure to check it out when you are at the run:) I might post it here eventually as well.

[SSJ2 Bardock]

Hi! I am new here :D

I have looked through some of your ideas. I must say I am quite impressed. The capsule system is really nice. I wasn't such a fan of the system in Tenkaichi 2. I want to be able to customize the moves more freely like in Budokai 3, but have new moves for the transformations like in T2. Great work!

I also agree on your character list. Movie Henchmen is low priority. I would rather want a great fighting engine than 20 more useless henchmen ;)

[Kazuha Vinland]

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/images/icons/addonicons/icon22.gif The Best Realistic Character List - Mission Complete
I consider my list as complete now. I have picked all the necessary characters to create a full length DB, DBZ and DBGT Story Line. Those got top priority in my character list. I have put Movie Sagas as medium priority and Movie Henchmen & Generic Characters as low priority. That sounds fair, doesn't it?:) I feel sorry for those who wish all the possible henchmen to be included, since they are in fact not. That is why it is a realistic list, not a wish list.

Tenkaichi 2 had 17 new characters. That was the limit for the PS2, luckily this will be for PS3. In my list there are a total of 49 new characters. That is really a lot for the developers to work with if this game is going to release already in Q4 2007. But can they do it? Yeah, I think they can:up: So out from these facts, do you still think that it is realistic to expect 25 more henchmen added to the list? I certainly do not:eek: So just keep this in mind, will ya?;)

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CHARACTER LIST
DB: 22 characters
DBZ: 54 characters
DBGT: 21 characters
Movie Sagas: 17 characters
Movie Henchmen: 5 characters
Generic Characters: 3 characters
Total: 122 characters

X = New Character
T = New Transformation
+ = Accessed through capsule

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/One_Star_DB.png/20px-One_Star_DB.pngDragon Ball:
1. Kid Goku (Base, Great Ape)
2. Kid Krillin X
3. Master Roshi (Base, Full Power)
4. Crane Hermit X
5. Nam X
6. Giran X
7. Emperor Pilaf Robot (Base, Ultra Robot)
8. Yajirobe
9. Ninja Murasaki X
10. General Blue X
11. Tao Pai Pai (Base, Cyborg Tao)
15. Grandpa Gohan
16. Chichi X
17. King Piccolo (Base, Eternal Youth)
18. Cymbal X
19. Drum X
20. Tambourine X
21. Mr. Popo X
22. Kami X

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/SSJ5VegetaV2/20px-One_Star_DBZ.pngDragon Ball Z:
23. Goku (Base, Kaioken, x10, x20, SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSJ4, Vegito, Super Vegito, Super Gogeta, SSJ4 Gogeta) T
24. Kid Gohan (Base, Unlock Potential) T
25. Teen Gohan (Base, SSJ, SSJ2)
26. Adult Gohan (Base, SSJ, SSJ2, Elder Kai Potential) T
27. Piccolo (Base, Sync with Nail, Fuse with Kami) T
28. Krillin (Base, Unlock Potential) T
29. Yamcha
30. Tien
31. Chiaotzu
32. Vegeta (Base, SSJ, USSJ, SSJ2, SS4, Majin, Great Ape, Vegito, Super Vegito, Super Gogeta, SS4 Gogeta) T
33. Raditz
34. Nappa
35. Saibamen
36. Cui
37. Dodoria
38. Zarbon (Base, Post-Transformation)
39. Recoome
40. Burter
41. Jeice
42. Guldo
43. Captain Ginyu
44. Frieza (1st Form, 2nd Form, 3rd Form, Final Form, 100% Final Form)
45. Mecha Frieza
46. Nail X
47. King Cold X
48. Future Trunks (Base, SSJ, Super Trunks, Super Trunks 2) T
49. Android #16
50. Android #17
51. Android #18
52. Android #19
53. Android #20
54. Cell (Imperfect Cell, Cell 2nd form, Perfect Cell, Super Perfect Cell)
55. Cell Jr.
56. Pikkon
57. Olibu X
58. Arqua X
59. Maraikoh X
60. Torbie X
61. Great Saiyaman
62. Hercule (Base, High Tension) T
63. Videl
64. Kid Trunks (Base, SSJ, Gotenks, SSJ Gotenks, SSJ3 Gotenks)
65. Kid Goten (Base, SSJ, Gotenks, SSJ Gotenks, SSJ3 Gotenks)
66. Supreme Kai (Base, KibitoKai)
67. Kibito (Base, KibitoKai) X
68. Spopovich X
69. Yamu X
70. Pui Pui X
71. Yakon X
72. Dabura (Base, Meditated) T
73. Majin Buu
74. Majin Buu (Evil)
75. Super Buu (Base, Gotenks Absorbed, Gohan Absorbed + What if absorptions) T
76. Kid Buu

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/SSJ5VegetaV2/30px-DBGT_Logo.pngDragon Ball GT:
77. Uub (Base, Majin Uub [Majuub])
78. Pan
79. GT Kid Goku (Base, SSJ, SSJ3, SSJ4) X
80. Adult Goten (Base, SSJ) X
81. Adult Trunks (Base, SSJ) X
82. Ledgic X
83. Nezu (Base, Sigma Force Canon) X
84. Ribet (Base, Sigma Force Canon) X
85. Bizu (Base, Sigma Force Canon) X
86. Natto X
87. General Rildo (Base, Robots Absorbed, Metal Rildo) X
88. Baby (1. Form, 2. Form, Final Form) X
89. Baby Vegeta (Super Baby, Super Baby 2nd form, Golden Oozaru Baby)
90. Super 17
91. Haze Shenron (Base, Full Power) X
92. Eis Shenron (Base, Transformed) X
93. Nova Shenron (Base, Transformed) X
94. Rage Shenron (Base, True Form) X
95. Naturon Shenron (Base, Fused with mole, Fused with Pan) X
96. Oceanus Shenron (Base, True Form) X
97. Syn Shenon (Base, Omega Shenron)

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/SSJ5VegetaV2/20px-DB_Movie.png Movie Characters:
98. Bardock (Base, Great Ape)
99. Garlic Jr. (Base, Super Garlic Jr.)
100. Dr. Wheelo X
101. Turles (Base, Great Ape)
102. Lord Slug (Base, Giant)
103. Cooler (Fourth form, Final Form)
104. Meta Cooler
105. Android 13 (Base, Super Android 13)
106. Android 14 X
107. Android 15 X
108. Broly (Base, RSSJ, SSJ, LSSJ) T
109. Bojack (Base, Post-Transformation)
110. Janempa (Base, Janemba)
111. Tapion
112. Hildegarn (Base, Transformed) T
113. Android 13 (Base, Super Android)
114. Bio-Broly (Base, Super Giant) X

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/SSJ5VegetaV2/20px-DB_Movie.png Movie Henchmen:
115. Tora X
116. Amond X
117. Salza
118. Kogu X
119. Zangya

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/images/smilies/addon%20smilies/dbz3_5.gifGeneric Characters:
120. Saiyans X
121. Frieza Soldiers X
122. Namekian Warriors X
123. Robot Warriors
- Their outfits would be different fighters. They will have the same moves, but a different look.
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SPECIAL COSTUMES LIST
Master Roshi > Jackie Chun
Emporer Pilaf Robot = Three robots to switch between: Pilaf, Mai, Shu
King Piccolo > Piccolo Jr.
Kami > Shen
Future Trunks > Trunks W/Sword
Supreme Kai > South Supreme Kai > North Supreme Kai > West Supreme Kai
Uub > Kid Uub
GT Kid Goku > Goku Jr.
Tapion > Minosha

Credits
Kamiccolo - Providing suggestions for characters, like the Supreme Kais.
Super2989, Holy_Jumbo, Jin Kazama - Giving helpful feedback so that I can improve the list even further.
SSJ5Vegeta_Ver3 - Proud Creator of The Character List

[Majin Trunks]

The Realistic Character List;Quote cut from request of SSj5Vegeta_Ver3Is this the final, or is this list improving?

I went through it and I am impressed!
Good Job Vegeta!

[Kazuha Vinland]

Thank you :) If it is not final, then it is at least a release candidate.

Could you please edit your post. It is not necessary to quote the entire list ;)

[VBG]

Yes, I believe that this is what everyone has agreed on. Great list.

[Majin Trunks]

Thank you :) If it is not final, then it is at least a release candidate.

Could you please edit your post. It is not necessary to quote the entire list ;)Done.

[Kazuha Vinland]

Thank you:cool: :up:

[Majin Trunks]

No problems.

[Vishkugeta]

Thanks for answering the Photoshop question :D

[ss4 Broly`]

good ideas i want most of them

[Trevdog22]

well at least Goku Jr. is an alternate costume of Chibi Goku

[Kazuha Vinland]

Yeah, I think we may survive with that ;)

I am almost finished at creating a LOOOOONG main menu explanation. Maybe tomorrow..

[Majin Trunks]

Cool! Can't wait!

[Kazuha Vinland]

I got 4 essays this week. So I can't be messing around here for too long :/

[speed_demon01]

Uber Pwnage so there :p

[Kazuha Vinland]

Thanx my little Speed Demon:p

I just need a little PM from Vishkugeta before I can finish the list:cool:

[Vishkugeta]

The Mini Games :D

[VBG]

Yup, your final ideas. Spike should seriously look at them since they have a part of each one of us in them. Some people like Vishkugeta and Kamicollo have a huge part while others didn't do that much but you could post it as like the forums final idea.

[Majin Trunks]

Uber Pwnage so there :p
Jujuju Master! Nice to see you here, you may switch Dark Sephiroth's name on your signature because he got banned and made new account and his current account is For-give-me.

[Kazuha Vinland]

I am working on something really big. Greater than I have done ever before. It will be a top secret development, so I will not give much more info before release :)

[Majin Trunks]

I am working on something really big. Greater than I have done ever before. It will be a top secret development, so I will not give much more info before release :)
A big suggestion list?

[Kazuha Vinland]

Hehe... I guess you will just have to wait and see :)

[VBG]

Man, you have got us in suspense, SSJ5Vegeta_Ver3

[ss4 Broly`]

itll suck dont get ur hopes up sorry but weve done it all from characters to stages to moves to environments please total suckage or totally heard of!!!!

[Kazuha Vinland]

We'll see about that ;)

[VBG]

Hey, Ssj 4 broly don't flame. Most of the ideas have come from SSJ5Vegeta, I bet his ideas will be good.

[Kazuha Vinland]

I have finished part 1 of my project :D

[Vishkugeta]

:D Could we see it?

[VBG]

Actually, its cool if you just show the whole thing.

[Kazuha Vinland]

:haha: I enjoy secrets as long as they last.

[VBG]

When is the release date that everyone is waiting for?

[Broly LegendSSJ]

I have finished part 1 of my project :D

well I am looking forward to see the whole thing. :)

[Kazuha Vinland]

When is the release date that everyone is waiting for?

I am not completely sure, I got a lot to do this week. Next week will also be quite hectic, but I will try to spend some time on it then. As for the week after that, yeah.. maybe:up:

[Broly LegendSSJ]

cool I think it will be cool :cool:

[Kazuha Vinland]

Vishkugeta and I have created a website for Tenkaichi 3. We will reveal it when it is finished:)

[Majin Trunks]

Cool!

[holy_jumbo]

Good idea, I'm waiting for it

Off-topic: litle publicity on my New costumes topic, go check it out and say your opinons or suggestions please

[jurehumar]

Vishkugeta and I have created a website for Tenkaichi 3. We will reveal it when it is finished:)

Could you tell me when you're done, please?

[Kazuha Vinland]

Well, Vishkugeta got to evaluate it first and then I should add my ideas into it. So a day or two ;)

[Minotast]

Lots of stuff

You should totally get together with other idea presenters like Kushgeta and format a united presentation. Trust me, it will have a better change of getting noticed. Although I am skeptical of anything getting noticed, it still has a better chance.

[Vishkugeta]

First, lets put all the ideas, then tell the website to them :D

[theking]

I just finsihed reading the first post u put up SSJ5Vegeta_Ver3 and they were really good. Especially how you put goku's actual power lever when he goes against raddits.

[Kazuha Vinland]

You should totally get together with other idea presenters like Kushgeta and format a united presentation. Trust me, it will have a better change of getting noticed. Although I am skeptical of anything getting noticed, it still has a better chance.
I already have. Vishkugeta and I are planning on creating a forum for ideas.

First, lets put all the ideas, then tell the website to them :D
Yup:)

I just finsihed reading the first post u put up SSJ5Vegeta_Ver3 and they were really good. Especially how you put goku's actual power lever when he goes against raddits.
Thank you :cool::up:

[morgan2042]

man this is exciting:D SSJ5Vegeta_Ver3 cant wait to see this project of yours

[Broly LegendSSJ]

me too! U always made good suggestions, man! :up:

[Kazuha Vinland]

Good news. I will soon (weekend probably) release part 1 of the secret project at the forum and here:)

[VBG]

Can't wait. You have put us in so much suspense. I bet even a small error will be pointed out!

I bet it will be perfect though. I wish that the entire forums could just agree to 1 idea. It would make life easier.

[Kazuha Vinland]

Yeah, it would. My part 1 of the project is not complete when I release it. I need the opinion from people in order to make it perfect. So just don't expect too much. It is after all a quite large project :)

[holy_jumbo]

If your project is as good as your ideas them the producers should do the game just like you want

[Kazuha Vinland]

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SSJ5Vegeta's Ultimate Project Revealed
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This document will be about my suggestions for a possible Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3. I have already been working some months creating ideas for this game. This thread is the final result. I hope you will enjoy reading my fan made ideas and also criticise them. Please note that this is just Part 1 of my ideas and that it is in fact just a beta. Therefore it is important that I get as much feedback as possible. Thanks in advance:up:

http://www.mediafire.com/?bnnmjj5qz1z

Definition File: 2.0

[jsmuniz26]

No It should Be For PS2

[Broly LegendSSJ]

No It should Be For PS2

Some guys will never understand that PS 2 was already on limit with Tenkaichi II ... :weird:

[Kazuha Vinland]

Well, just to say it like this. Tenkaichi 2 took 8/12 of PS2's capability. If you can't afford the PS3 version, get the Wii instead. Tenkaichi 2 only took 2/12 of Wii's capability ;) But nothing more talk about consoles. This is a suggestion thread :D

[jurehumar]

Tenkaichi 3 must be for PS3! End of it!

[Kazuha Vinland]

I have heard that Vishkugeta is also making a secret project like I did :) Can't wait to evaluate it :D

[jurehumar]

yeah. me too

[jjdssj4]

a good character i think you should take in consideration is the ssj5 goku or the fusion of gogeta and gotenks in ssj4 state or gogeta ssj 5!!!!!!!1but realy it would rock if u added goku ssj5

[Vishkugeta]

... No AF!!!

[L Lawliet]

... No AF!!!

I agree. :o:up:

It looks like we have ourselves some new members. :p

[Kazuha Vinland]

:haha: Yeah, I guess so :cool::up:

As for ideas, my head is pretty much full of new original ideas right now, but I do simply not have time to write them down:(

[jurehumar]

I agree that there should be no AF. However I would love to have character that would be possible as special character.

Example (explanation):
Vegeta SSJ3 (he already is SSJ4 so why not)
Broly SSJ2, SSJ3 (his power rises automatically so why not)
Cooler's prior forms (why not)

[Kazuha Vinland]

I am trying to update it, but currently it is pretty much a mess >_> Later on I will just save all my ideas into documents and upload them as links :D

[jurehumar]

ok
no problem

[Majin Trunks]

I am trying to update it, but currently it is pretty much a mess >_> Later on I will just save all my ideas into documents and upload them as links :DI have some problems in opening the document file, so can you release it by copying the text into a post?

[Kazuha Vinland]

Don't worry, I will ;)

[only-1-Z-ro]

it should be for ps3
Do u know how much info a single layer Bluray disc can fit..25GB
and a Double layered bluray disc..50 whole GB
think of the possibilities of a 15-20gb BT3 game can fit every single dbz character in with their own movesets

[Majin Trunks]

Thanks Vegeta!

[Kazuha Vinland]

it should be for ps3
Do u know how much info a single layer Bluray disc can fit..25GB
and a Double layered bluray disc..50 whole GB
think of the possibilities of a 15-20gb BT3 game can fit every single dbz character in with their own movesets
That is true. But I also think there should come out a watered down Wii version right before Christmas. Then there hopefully wouldn't be such a big gap between the two versions. After all Tenkaichi 2 only took 2/12 of what the Wii was capable of http://www.jcxp.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif and nice to see you back Speed_Demon:up:

Thanks Vegeta!
You're welcome:cool:

[Minotast]

I would say no indefinite AF such as the SSJ5 and miscolored images.

But there should be an open part for certain characters (aka Raditz) to attain the possibility through a what-if quest in the story mode to attaining SSJ status.

Also Giji or Semi SSJ is a need for future games.

Also you guys need to stop trying to add Japanese words into the English Dictionary. Use English when speaking English. Na Sha Kuku Pupupapa Nihonjo isa Nihonjo whatever... (I don't speak Japanese).

[Kazuha Vinland]

I do disagree about Raditz achieving Super Saiyan. He had a powerlevel just above 1000. He is a low class warrior. Unlike Goku, he simply won't break that limit:)

NEWS:
Part 1 of my project has been upgraded. It is a lot better now:up:

[Minotast]

I do disagree about Raditz achieving Super Saiyan. He had a powerlevel just above 1000. He is a low class warrior. Unlike Goku, he simply won't break that limit:)

Raditz is Goku's Brother. Certainly if there was an alternate mode in the game then Raditz could attain SSJ and you are forgetting a huge thing about Raditz. His power level was higher than Goku's at that time. Certainly since he is a saiyan, his powerlevel would continue to increase like all saiyans.

To have Raditz unable to attain SSJ in terms of a possibility would damn right knock Raditz out of character, because he is a saiyan. And yes, all saiyans can attain SSJ status. It is just a matter of when as long as they continue to survive.


NEWS:
Part 1 of my project has been upgraded. It is a lot better now:up:

Good for you.

[Kazuha Vinland]

Raditz is Goku's Brother. Certainly if there was an alternate mode in the game then Raditz could attain SSJ and you are forgetting a huge thing about Raditz. His power level was higher than Goku's at that time. Certainly since he is a saiyan, his powerlevel would continue to increase like all saiyans.

To have Raditz unable to attain SSJ in terms of a possibility would damn right knock Raditz out of character, because he is a saiyan. And yes, all saiyans can attain SSJ status. It is just a matter of when as long as they continue to survive.
His powerlever was higher due to him being his big brother and because of that he had lived on planet Vegeta with a higher gravity. Raditz was a low class warrior, just like Goku. However, Goku had a far greater potential than Raditz. Vegeta stated himself that Goku was something special. No matter how hard he trained, Goku would always surpass him.

Raditz would not necessarily have gotten stronger. This is a line from the manga "You haven't reached your full power yet, but we need you with us" Raditz said to Goku. Therefore Raditz did apparently believe that he had already reached his maximum potential. The maximum potential of a low class warrior that is.

The legend says that once a thousand years, a legendary super saiyan will be born. Goku is that legend, so is Broly as he was born at the same day. Later on this legend was proved to be false as Vegeta turned into a Super Saiyan himself. However, Raditz is simply a random saiyan. It does not matter that he had the genes of Bardock. It was not his purpose becoming a super saiyan at all. I think Akira Toriyama did wrong in making Super Saiyan forms for Goten and Trunks. Before it was something extremely powerful, but then it somehow turned into a form for every saiyan...which is wrong. Only a very few saiyans have the ability to turn Super Saiyan, and it should stay that way. We got enough of them already:up:

Good for you.hopefully for the readers as well:haha:

[Minotast]

His powerlever was higher due to him being his big brother and because of that he had lived on planet Vegeta with a higher gravity. Raditz was a low class warrior, just like Goku. However, Goku had a far greater potential than Raditz. Vegeta stated himself that Goku was something special. No matter how hard he trained, Goku would always surpass him.

Raditz would not necessarily have gotten stronger. This is a line from the manga "You haven't reached your full power yet, but we need you with us" Raditz said to Goku. Therefore Raditz did apparently believe that he had already reached his maximum potential. The maximum potential of a low class warrior that is.

The legend says that once a thousand years, a legendary super saiyan will be born. Goku is that legend, so is Broly as he was born at the same day. Later on this legend was proved to be false as Vegeta turned into a Super Saiyan himself. However, Raditz is simply a random saiyan. It does not matter that he had the genes of Bardock. It was not his purpose becoming a super saiyan at all. I think Akira Toriyama did wrong in making Super Saiyan forms for Goten and Trunks. Before it was something extremely powerful, but then it somehow turned into a form for every saiyan...which is wrong. Only a very few saiyans have the ability to turn Super Saiyan, and it should stay that way. We got enough of them already:up:

hopefully for the readers as well:haha:

You are not funny.

AFYI, the legend doesn't count. With Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan, Goten, and Kid Trunks becoming Super Saiyans, it pretty much discredits the whole one super saiyan for every thousand years.

Therefore Raditz could become a super saiyan if he had the option of becoming a good guy like he did in BT2.

Bardock even had the potential of becoming a super saiyan, because it even says in the special that he would soon become stronger than the king of saiyans. That is something to consider extra-ordinary for a saiyan. Raditz was also Bardock's son, shouldn't he also be blessed?

Also, don't speak for other people. It makes you sound like a homosexual.

[VBG]

You are not funny.

You aren't exactly anyone to talk.

Also, don't speak for other people. It makes you sound like a homosexual.

What the hell are you talking about. He uses facts and all you can say is it makes you sound homo? What the ****?

[Minotast]

You aren't exactly anyone to talk.

Whatever you say, fascist.




What the hell are you talking about. He uses facts and all you can say is it makes you sound homo? What the ****?

:eek: I'm so stunned! :haha:

If you want to call those facts, then you need to get some re-education fast. :rolleyes:

[VBG]

Wasn't Raditz a low class warrior? Are you saying the legend was something different?


Thanks for the compliment, George. At least I have a head on my shoulders and don't need to use a guy named dick to think.

[Minotast]

Wasn't Raditz a low class warrior? Are you saying the legend was something different?


Thanks for the compliment, George. At least I have a head on my shoulders and don't need to use a guy named dick to think.

Wasn't Goku also a low class saiyan? :rolleyes:

[Kazuha Vinland]

Yeah, but if you had read my post, then maybe you would understand it a bit better. But let us continue this argument in the other thread. And please do not call people fascists or homosexuals:up:

[Minotast]

Yeah, but if you had read my post, then maybe you would understand it a bit better. But let us continue this argument in the other thread. And please do not call people fascists or homosexuals:up:

I already read your damn post (needs work) and I didn't call anyone a homosexual. :rolleyes:

By the way, I am sorry to say this, but you sir are disqualified.

[Kazuha Vinland]

How can you say that I am disqualified when you are clearly losing the argument?:bored:


You are not funny.

1) AFYI, the legend doesn't count. With Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan, Goten, and Kid Trunks becoming Super Saiyans, it pretty much discredits the whole one super saiyan for every thousand years.

2) Therefore Raditz could become a super saiyan if he had the option of becoming a good guy like he did in BT2. Bardock even had the potential of becoming a super saiyan, because it even says in the special that he would soon become stronger than the king of saiyans. That is something to consider extra-ordinary for a saiyan. Raditz was also Bardock's son, shouldn't he also be blessed?

3) Also, don't speak for other people. It makes you sound like a homosexual.

His powerlever was higher due to him being his big brother and because of that he had lived on planet Vegeta with a higher gravity.

2) Raditz was a low class warrior, just like Goku. However, Goku had a far greater potential than Raditz. Vegeta stated himself that Goku was something special. No matter how hard he trained, Goku would always surpass him.

Raditz would not necessarily have gotten stronger. This is a line from the manga "You haven't reached your full power yet, but we need you with us" Raditz said to Goku. Therefore Raditz did apparently believe that he had already reached his maximum potential. The maximum potential of a low class warrior that is.

1) The legend says that once a thousand years, a legendary super saiyan will be born. Goku is that legend, so is Broly as he was born at the same day. Later on this legend was proved to be false as Vegeta turned into a Super Saiyan himself. However, Raditz is simply a random saiyan. It does not matter that he had the genes of Bardock.

It was not his purpose becoming a super saiyan at all. I think Akira Toriyama did wrong in making Super Saiyan forms for Goten and Trunks. Before it was something extremely powerful, but then it somehow turned into a form for every saiyan...which is wrong. Only a very few saiyans have the ability to turn Super Saiyan, and it should stay that way. We got enough of them already:up:

hopefully for the readers as well:haha:


:)

[Minotast]

How can you say that I am disqualified when you are clearly losing the argument?:bored:







:)


Losing the argument? Now that's a good one. I didn't even know this was an argument. I just thought we were just playing around. :haha: Especially, since you were just fooling around on here.

Also, I can disqualify you on grounds that are appropriate. You are just upset, because I said you were disqualified. Would it be better if I just went along with your viewpoints?

In addition, I didn't call anyone a homo. I just said someone was starting to sound like a homo. You do know what a simile is, now don't you?

[Kazuha Vinland]

Let us just continue it in the other thread.

[Minotast]

Let us just continue it in the other thread.

Since when am I your slave? I have my own free will and I intend on using it.

[Kazuha Vinland]

Sure, but it is off topic. So no, you are not free to do whatever you want in this thread ;)

[Minotast]

Sure, but it is off topic. So no, you are not free to do whatever you want in this thread ;)

Well it's not your fault. :bulb:

I only had a disagreement with Morgan, then you stumbled in here. And for what purpose I might add?

Honestly, things wouldn't have progressed this far if you and vegetabeatsgoku had found some other use to waste time in your lives. So why are you here? Had a bad day at church or finding ways to spread athiesm?

[morgan2042]

could you not bring church,etc into the discussion. by the way everybody has a right to be here including SSJ5Vegeta_Ver3 and vegetabeatsgoku. oh and by the way it JUSt A GAME

[Kazuha Vinland]

Yeah, you did not type anything yourself Minotast ;) Irony really is your friend:haha:

But back on topic. I will soon release a text version of my ideas as well. Then the people who do not have office 2003 might also read them:)

[morgan2042]

cool cant wait:up:

[VBG]

By the way, SSJ5Vegeta is the thread maker and it his choice to stop off topic discussion.

[Kazuha Vinland]

Okay, as the game has official got revealed, I have decided to quit making ideas for the game:o But that doesn't mean I will quit making ideas for DBZ games. I have as a matter of fact thought of creating ideas for a new DBZ game generation. So if anyone wants to participate in the new fanmade DBZ game, then simply PM me:)

[DBZ_KILLER]

-.- long thread

[Marby]

Moved to the Tenkaichi 3 forum. :D

[Kazuha Vinland]

I have decided to continue on some ideas for a fighting engine. I needed to bump this thread to get back to my elder ideas:up: