Same FPS at MAX and MIN graphic...

[hykao]

It's unbelievable but true...the frame rates are same at both maximum and minimum graphical settings...how COME???!!!



My config is: KD-7, AMD 2600+, 1GB RAM, X1950PRO 512MB AGP

[[BFs]GBesaw]

Which version of Catalyst are you running and what are your Catalyst driver settings? Also, you are probably cpu limited given your current processor -- TDU needs/uses the cpu extensively.

[Ominous Gamer]

It's unbelievable but true...the frame rate is same at both maximum and minimum graphical settings...how COME???!!!



My config is: KD-7, AMD 2600+, 1GB RAM, X1950PRO 512MB AGP

Your first link is a picture of a female; I'd ask why, but I'm afraid to.

[hykao]

I use the newest 7.1 catalyst driver, AA and AF settings are "let the application decide" of course, others: A.I. = OFF, Vsync = OFF, Adaptive AA = OFF.
My previous vidcard was a 7800GS, and same problem had been noticed with it... :(
Perhaps my CPU wouldn't be enough to the game...:cry:

[hykao]

Your first link is a picture of a female; I'd ask why, but I'm afraid to.

Nope! Both pics are about TDU...maybe it was somekind of ImageVenue server glitch...:confused:

[Ominous Gamer]

Nope! Both pics are about TDU...maybe it was somekind of ImageVenue server glitch...:confused:

I see it now, but I also see 3 different imagevenue pages in my history.
meh, thats why I stick with imageshack.

[[BFs]GBesaw]

I use the newest 7.1 catalyst driver, AA and AF settings are "let the application decide" of course, others: A.I. = OFF, Vsync = OFF, Adaptive AA = OFF.
My previous vidcard was a 7800GS, and same problem had been noticed with it... :(
Perhaps my CPU wouldn't be enough to the game...:cry:

I suspect your cpu is holding you back. However, with a previous nVidia card, you may have some driver issues due to older versions of drivers left from previous installation. If you did not reformat/reinstall the operating system when you installed your 1950, get a copy of drivercleaner (do a google to find the free version), uninstall the ati drivers, boot into the safe mode, run drivercleaner on ati and nvidia drivers, reboot/reinstall the ati drivers. This may give you some improvement.

[bashley]

Mmm F1 Race girls.

[hykao]

GBesaw;8333831']I suspect your cpu is holding you back. However, with a previous nVidia card, you may have some driver issues due to older versions of drivers left from previous installation. If you did not reformat/reinstall the operating system when you installed your 1950, get a copy of drivercleaner (do a google to find the free version), uninstall the ati drivers, boot into the safe mode, run drivercleaner on ati and nvidia drivers, reboot/reinstall the ati drivers. This may give you some improvement.

Hmm, maybe i'll try it. Tell ya the true my current WinXP is more than 3 years old yet...:D I'm too lazy always to reinstallation...but i'm always uninstalling old drivers totally before installing any newer.

[p4blo32]

Umm your cpu and graphics card are severely mismatched. Your cpu is a massive bottleneck, with that CPU i'd recommend a powerful geforce 6 would be enough, ie you wont see any framerate increase with a better card.

At the end of the day you're going to need a much better cpu to see better framerates, then the powerful graphics card will shine :)

[hykao]

Umm your cpu and graphics card are severely mismatched. Your cpu is a massive bottleneck, with that CPU i'd recommend a powerful geforce 6 would be enough, ie you wont see any framerate increase with a better card.

At the end of the day you're going to need a much better cpu to see better framerates, then the powerful graphics card will shine :)

Well the storyline of the videocards of my current motherboarded (good old Abit KD-7) PC was -> ...9800pro->6600GT->7800GS->X1950PRO, I have always seen more frame rates at any time when any new card has came till now - and other games are running totally well on my PC currently too - only the TDU is stucking sometime mainly in the city areas! Hmm, I think the maximum processor what my motherboard can using the 3000+ or maybe the 3200+ Athlon. I'll buy one...and will see...
I hate changing motherboards because of reinstalling windows...(I went to the crazy when the Win95 had arrived to the PC world erstwhile...must had installed that so many times...:cry:)...but i know well that must changing that good old KD-7 sometimes...;)

Oh, and sorry for my English, that isn't my first language...:)

[p4blo32]

Fair point, a better graphics card will make a difference regardless of cpu, and you do now have a nice card :D

You're right, depending on the fsb speed of your motherboard, either an athlon 3000+, or 3200+ would be the highest it would support. Problem is these arent made any more, so can be hard to find and expensive :down:

[hykao]

Hmm i thought a little...the 2600+ is running on 1911Mhz, the 3000+ on 2166Mhz...but otherwise both of them have 256kb cash and 166 (333) FSB...i can't imagine that my PC (and the TDU) would be much more faster with a new 3000+ CPU...

And the main problem rather the changing framerate and "stucking" (or what would be the correct english word...)...so loos like the game would halt for a while always...I have lost many races because of this "stucking" thing...

[DavidLanz]

I've tested the OPEN BETA for 3 days, here is my conclusion:

1) there is NO difference between 1680x1050 and 800x600
2) My ATI x1950XTX 512MB + 2GB DDR2 runs like SHI* !
3) poor perfomance : for SURE !!!

here is my testing spec. :

Mother board : Asus P5GD2
CPU: Pentium 4 3.2GB
RAM: 2048 MB DDR2 runs in dual channel(800FSB)
H.D.: 320 GBx4
VGA: Asus X1950XT 512MB (Cat. v7.1)

see for your self:

/*someone wants me to remove the link*/

[Ominous Gamer]

I've tested the OPEN BETA for 3 days, here is my conclusion:

1) there is NO difference between 1680x1050 and 800x600
2) My ATI x1950XTX 512MB + 2GB DDR2 runs like SHI* !
3) poor perfomance : for SURE !!!




The beta is under NDA, which you just violated my hosting images of the game. Way to go, now I suggest you remove them.

[TrotterITCo]

Beleive it or not I run TDU better in 1024x768 than in 800x600 (medium without AA and HDR). In city's there is a little lag but in other parts of island FPS is perfect.

AMD Sempron 2400+ (1664) oc @ 1880 (or higher sometimes)
RAM: 2x512 Kingmax
GPU: Geforce 6600 GT 128 GDDR3

[storm.be]

huh no problem Fore here whit this game and no Frame drops ore somthing like that

*************** do not host images on public servers or this forum -- Read the NDA Gramps *******

mainbord : Msi Nforce 4
CPu : Amd Athlon 3000+ 64bit
OS : \\'indo\\'s xp x64
DDR : OcZ PC 4000 Vx gold Edition 2GIG 533mhz
VGA : XFX 7600GT 256 DDR3 PciE
Sound : soundblaster Audigy
HDD : 160 Sata Maxtor 8mb
Monitor : Packerd bell 19# widescreen 16/10

[InstantBenHur]

I also had low frame rates even in the main menue. Try plugging out any game controllers, that worked for me. :weird: But drivin' with keyboard is :down:

My Specs:
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
VGA: NVidia GeForce 8800GTX (FW 97.44)
RAM: 2GB Corsair TWINX2048C4 PRO
Sound: Soundblaster X-Fi Fatal1ty

[hykao]

I don't have any game controllers, I use only keyboard...I don't know why the game is running so strange...

[storm.be]

its fun whit keybord go to small movie
Test Drive Unlimited.divx hehe me driving whit keybord

[hykao]

How the hell is running your game so fast on a 7600GT and how the hell so slow on my current X1950PRO??? (and on my previous 7800GS)
The differences between your 3000+64 and my 2600+ would not be so colossal!!! :haha:

Maybe my 1GB RAM would not be enough??? :confused:

[storm.be]

dno m8 i have windows xp x64 edition i tweak my system not OC thats stopit
your cpu 2600 AMD L2c 512 ? ore 256 ?
if your cpu is 512 L2c
go to
hkey_local_machine\system\currentcontrolset\contro l\session manager\memory management.

secondleveldatacache
L2c 512 Kb = hex 200
L2c 1m = hex 400

its time i rune a game
firt of al a run this
Rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks

dan i play a game

you have ati tray this one
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1553

olso this
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1515

and this
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1321

your mainbord Via ore Nvidia ? ore .................

i dont now but i have never problems whit games




dno is the ram ist posibel but dont think so
sorry fore my englich eh aim from belgium :)

[hykao]

I think it has 256kb cash, but no matter...however the game needs more optimalization i think, or some more graphic options at least, for example the view distance etc...

[storm.be]

hex 100 trust me juist test it

[hykao]

Ok, I've set over that hex number to 100 (256), but sadly it has no effect...:(

[pigsybum]

its ur cpu. anyway hw do u feel abt 15fps?
is that fps constant?if so, i think it's very laggy right?

this game uses SET amount of cpu. the gpu will determine whether you can play games at high/low resolution and settings, get a dual core at this point. you cannot say whether dual core are supported a not, it simply means multi-threading. if you have background application, some ram and dual core would be good.if urs is single core, disable ALL background application, even a download will lag you abit.

and for people info, don't get a low ghz core 2 duo, no game runs in dual/multi core, multi core only helps in managing ur startup while the other core/cores deals with ur game.

if you have a 1.83ghz core 2 duo, i think that will be ur speed.

for those minimum/recommanded pc rig, they're just for the single cores, meaning for a single core, they share the speed and bandwidth, which induce in liek having 2.4ghz, it splits to maybe like 3/4 for ur game and the 1/4 for applications.

if ur using a wheel, dual core would be good. core 2 duo is more for office work where many applications are setup(e.g. microsoft powerpoint, word,msn, notepad.)to reduce lag times.

of course the more cores the better, but don't get a low ghz per core processor if ur into gaming.

[hykao]

laggy...in city and more traffic areas or race with AI.: ~10FPS and full of lag...in other parts of island: ~35-50FPS without lag...(no matter about MIN or MAX settings lol)
...and i'm running only the game on my pc if i wanna play with it of course...

...but lol i have read the minimum sysem requirements...1Ghz CPU, 256MB ram, 64mb vidcard with T and L support...or is this a joke??? :)

[4nd3r5]

how can you have hdr and AA on at the same time?
I thought that was impossible

[hykao]

No! It is possible with 8er nV or X19XX ATI cards, and I've got an X1950PRO, so I can use both effect at same time.

[4nd3r5]

oh crap! I've got 7900gtx

[[BFs]GBesaw]

...but lol i have read the minimum sysem requirements...1Ghz CPU, 256MB ram, 64mb vidcard with T and L support...or is this a joke??? :)

Those specification are definitely not correct for TDU.

[storm.be]

you tray 3 links that i gave you ?

[hykao]

Man, i know the ATI Tray Tools prog - this is a cool appl. but i don't think that can help to the TDU perf....The AMD driver is also would be a cool appl. but not for me, because my CPU is uncompatible with it...and the last DirectX9.0c has already been installed on my PC. Otherwise thx for helping.

[TakkU]

I am having the same kind of problems, i am running on a Athlon XP 2400+ TB, 1024 MB RAM, Geforce 6800Ultra 256 mb, and whether i put it on low or high it runs like ****...

[simon92922]

i am also having the same problem... but today i started to see artifacts while trying to play too....

atari what are you playing at? 16th feb is release date and you already have problems.

[[BFs]GBesaw]

i am also having the same problem... but today i started to see artifacts while trying to play too....

atari what are you playing at? 16th feb is release date and you already have problems.

Please post your system specs including gpu/driver.

[simon92922]

AMD Athlon XP 2400+ (Barton)
Gigabyte N400 Pro 2 board
1GB PC2700
Sound Blaster Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty
2x320GB Western Digital SATA1 drives
Inno3D 6600GT 128MB AGP 8X
NVidia Driver 93.71

[hykao]

I don't think should PC version of TDU be released on Februar. Need a little more optimalizations and more detailed graphic settings.

[Ominous Gamer]

its ur cpu. anyway hw do u feel abt 15fps?
is that fps constant?if so, i think it's very laggy right?

this game uses SET amount of cpu. the gpu will determine whether you can play games at high/low resolution and settings, get a dual core at this point. you cannot say whether dual core are supported a not, it simply means multi-threading. if you have background application, some ram and dual core would be good.if urs is single core, disable ALL background application, even a download will lag you abit.

and for people info, don't get a low ghz core 2 duo, no game runs in dual/multi core, multi core only helps in managing ur startup while the other core/cores deals with ur game.

if you have a 1.83ghz core 2 duo, i think that will be ur speed.

for those minimum/recommanded pc rig, they're just for the single cores, meaning for a single core, they share the speed and bandwidth, which induce in liek having 2.4ghz, it splits to maybe like 3/4 for ur game and the 1/4 for applications.

if ur using a wheel, dual core would be good. core 2 duo is more for office work where many applications are setup(e.g. microsoft powerpoint, word,msn, notepad.)to reduce lag times.

of course the more cores the better, but don't get a low ghz per core processor if ur into gaming.

dear god so much misinformation

[TakkU]

My specs/drivers/OS

AMD Athlon Xp 2400+ Throughbred
Geforce 6800 Ultra 256MB - Forceware 96.79 x86 Vista driver
Asrock K7S8X
1 WD 80 GB IDE Caviar
1 Maxtor 80 GB IDE Diamondmax(TDU on this drive, so is Windows)
1 Maxtor 250GB SATA Diamondmax
Sweex SATA RAID Controller
1x Kingston 512MB DDR PC4200
2x Elixer 256 MB DDR PC3300

Windows Vista Ultimate Final Build, so DirectX 10

This is what i run TDU on, i still have a XP Pro install, with the 97.xx Forceware drivers, and then i get artifacts even in the menu(i'll try to make a pic)

On my Vista install, it has the same FPS when i run on High or Low.

[Bartg.pl]

For my artifacts alt+Tab or changing refresh rate helps. Buw on athlon 2500@1960 mhz, 1gb ram and gf6600 I only have 25 fps not a single one more, changing to 7600GS in few days will see what happens.

[madskillz]

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[pigsybum]

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[StreetPreacherr]

I'm running an:

Asus P4P800-SE
P4 3.2Ghz
Nvidia 7800GS AGP
2gig RAM (dual channel)

With the settings maxed (1680x1050) I get ~20FPS, and with everything turned down all the way (800x600) I manage closer to 30FPS.

It definitely looks like this game is a CPU hog, because lowering the graphic settings doesn't seem to make much of a difference in performance...

However, what concerns me is that it sounds like even people with new core 2 duo CPU's are also getting below average performance.

What hardware setup is required to get this game running at 60FPS? Can the person with the core2duo and 8800GTX setup let us know what frame rate they're getting?

[[BFs]GBesaw]

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