Do any of you even know what a ricer is ?

[tougeman159]

The meaning of a rice car -
"More contemporary use of the term rice burner, along with the prefix rice, has taken on an alternate pejorative meaning for an automobile that has been modified to give impression of high performance, but does not necessarily have any high-performance capabilities"
http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/ricer-17803.jpg

Ricer - Any person who adds tasteless modifications to a perfectly normal automobile.

A supra,evolution, and skyline is not a ricer material.
attributes of a rice car-

Aerodynamic-seeming or creatively-designed body kits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_kit), often with little function
Wings and spoilers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_%28automotive%29) that serve no useful function, possibly increasing drag and decreasing traction.
Carbon fiber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite-reinforced_plastic) hoods (sometimes fiberglass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiberglass) replicas made to look like carbon fiber, or just decorative self adhesive plastic with carbon fiber look)
Non-functional hood scoops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hood_scoop) and roof scoops (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roof_scoops&action=edit).
Excessively large wheels ("rims") (for example chromed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_plating), or "dubs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dub_%28wheel%29)", as well as Spinners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinner_%28wheel%29)) that often decrease acceleration due to higher rotational inertia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotational_inertia). Handling is also often made worse by the extra unsprung weight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsprung_weight).
Improperly lowered suspension (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_%28vehicle%29), such as stock springs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_%28device%29) shortened by heating or cutting. Or from not getting a proper alignment resulting in excessive negative camber.
Bumper canards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumper_canards) fitted to the front bumper.
Aesthetics
Bright paint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paint) or interior (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Interior_%28automotive%29&action=edit), frequently in contrasting colors
Decals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decal) and stickers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticker_%28paper%29) for aftermarket parts not actually present on the vehicle
Badging from other higher-performance vehicles or JDM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Domestic_Market) tuning companies like Mugen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mugen_Motorsports), Nismo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nismo), etc.
Digital turbo, consisting of speakers installed under the car that emulate the sound of a turbo engine.
A loud, free-flowing exhaust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaust_gas) system with a large cylindrical resonator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonator) at the rear of the car, known as a "fart cannon", a "coffee can" and many other colorful names. Frequently a short large-diameter piece is added to the end of the stock exhaust to provide the appearance of a true free-flowing system without any actual performance enhancement.
Lighting
Decorative neon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon) and LED (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED) lighting in addition to the regular head/tail lamps and brake/turn signals, such as lighted windshield washer nozzles and tire valve caps, underbody neon lighting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_light) ("hover lights"), etc.
"Altezza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Altezza)"-style lights or "Altezzas" (equally popular and known as "Lexus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus)" lights in Europe), which have the colored light sources and reflective bodies contained within chrome housings and clear lenses. The term "Altezza" comes from the JDM (Japanese Domestic Market) Toyota Altezza, known in the US as the Lexus IS300 and Europe as the Lexus IS200. Toyota continues to use "Altezza" style tail lights on various Lexus models, including the RX "crossover SUV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossover_SUV)" and ES sedan
Super-bright headlight bulbs, sometimes of illegal specification and poorly aligned; colored bulbs, also often illegal, which are used for turning signals, side-markers, etc.
Car has any of the aforementioned modifications, yet appears to have sloppy workmanship or has not been properly cared for (dirty, parts of the car with smashed or dented body work, etc.)If you all think a supra is rice , then look at the 350 z and vw golf in the game , both are much slower than the supra .

[Artz330]

It is really hard for a VW car to be rice, in my opinion because many of the guys around here have very tastefull mods, and have some credibility to back it up

[topsp33d3r]

Thats right man u tell em wut ricers really are, they are just kid's that think lights, bumpers, paint, and sticker adds horsepower.....hahaha NOT! People that drive tuners know what their cars can do and know what to do with em. One thing that pisses me off about ricers is the tail lights. Umm, they always seem to put the tail lights on first, which is a waste of time does not benefit you and your car anyways. Tuners know how to do it, start with exhaust, air, pipes, engine, electric, turbo, and the more extreme stuff. You got it right man thank you tougeman159. Supra's are dragons man, you should hear them and they sound like a dragon also they can pushed past 1000+ and look stock and be street legal!!

[topsp33d3r]

By the way try youtube or streetfire.net and check out supras and their dynos. And that sound, that sound is undescribable. The exhaust would blow off some ricers' tape-on body kits.

[Artz330]

I don't know how Supra's handle, but it seems that all you guys are talking about is going in straight lines, and that 1000 hp I believe would only be good for a drag strip

[topsp33d3r]

Yea their tires spin alot cuz of the Power:Weight ratio is unproportional and they handle very well being a 1.5 ton car. Hey I hope they come with BMW's they have the McLaren F1 and BMW owns the Le Man's one, I dont recall what it's call but in GT4 the McLaren is in the BMW dealer. I love the M6

[Jake33]

If they're loud and have big wings or wheels that look after market. It's riced.

RICE RICE BABY!

[Ominous Gamer]

"A supra,evolution, and skyline is not a ricer material."

dumbest ****ing statement made in this forum section in a long, long time.
You do understand that the most popular Skylines (R32 - R34) put out less then 200hp at stock right? Meaning that 90% of the time when you see a wing on one its completely pointless. Of course speed doesn't mean a car can be rice free, I've seen my fair share of lambos that got hit by their owner's rice bats.
Also, the non-turbo 350Z has a hp of 306, while the Supra has a rating of 220hp.

[Mondial]

You do understand that the most popular Skylines (R32 - R34) put out less then 200hp at stock right?
Im pretty sure that this is very, very wrong. Proof: http://www.supercars.net/cars/1397.html R34
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1396.html R33
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1394.html R32

[Jake33]

price $89 500 USD
engine Water Cooled RB26DETT Inline 6 position Front Longitudinal aspiration
Twin Turbo
valvetrain Belt Driven DOHC 4 valves / cyl displacement 2568 cc / 156.7 cu in bore 86.0 mm / 3.39 in stroke 73.3 mm / 2.89 in compression 8.5:1
power 205.8 kw / 276.0 bhp @ 6800 rpm

Twin Turbo? 90,000? Only 276 HP? Wtf?

[Mondial]

price $89 500 USD
engine Water Cooled RB26DETT Inline 6 position Front Longitudinal aspiration
Twin Turbo
valvetrain Belt Driven DOHC 4 valves / cyl displacement 2568 cc / 156.7 cu in bore 86.0 mm / 3.39 in stroke 73.3 mm / 2.89 in compression 8.5:1
power 205.8 kw / 276.0 bhp @ 6800 rpm

Twin Turbo? 90,000? Only 276 HP? Wtf?

Whats your point?

[Artz330]

Whats your point?

90,000 dollars for some Japanese car that only puts out 276 hp, is pathetic

I'd rather buy a rustang and supe it up

[WakkaSSj3]

Twin Turbo? 90,000? Only 276 HP? Wtf?


mentioned in a different thread, 276hp is a regulation in japan not to go higher than 280 or something like that. i dont know the true laws there, but even the 22b STi only has 276hp on the spec sheet, but actually puts down alot more, from what i read from the website i found dedicated to the 22b

[WakkaSSj3]

90,000 dollars for some Japanese car that only puts out 276 hp, is pathetic

I'd rather buy a rustang and supe it up

90,000 is what the going rate would be here if it were sold her. its just converted from the Yen.

90,000.00 USD = 10,766,096.21 JPY Japan Yen

[Mowgli CSM]

The 276hp is a gentlemans agreement between the big Jap car companies. All to do with making everything equal. Stock Skylines have been dynoed and have seen to put out near 400 WHEEL hp.

Any car has the potential to be a ricer, it's all up to the owner how it comes out.

Also, Skylines are expensive in America due to the cost of importing and legalizing them. Just ask Motorex...... Oh wait you can't, the owner got arrested on chrages of defrauding the goverment, kidnapping and attempted murder.

As someone who is in the automotive performance field as a job, the way some people talk makes me sick. I really wish people would be more informed when speaking instead of spitting ignorant opinions and claiming they are fact.

[Empee]

price $89 500 USD
engine Water Cooled RB26DETT Inline 6 position Front Longitudinal aspiration
Twin Turbo
valvetrain Belt Driven DOHC 4 valves / cyl displacement 2568 cc / 156.7 cu in bore 86.0 mm / 3.39 in stroke 73.3 mm / 2.89 in compression 8.5:1
power 205.8 kw / 276.0 bhp @ 6800 rpm

Twin Turbo? 90,000? Only 276 HP? Wtf?


276 bhp is actually a common figure for late Japanese sports cars because it was the max of a now obsolete power pact between Japanese automakers. It's a lie more often than not - advertising and source material read 276, but that's merely for the sake of appeasing the spirit of the pact, which was intended to prevent a horsepower war in an island nation with gridlock issues and a maximum speed limit of 62 mph. However, engineers have admitted that they've secretly been going over the limit for years. . .various independant tests have suggested a figure exceeding 300 horsepower for the GT-R. It's hardly laughable considering that BMW is just now getting here with a similar layout.

Twin turbo doesn't necessarily equate to twice the power, either. Manufacturers with forced induction experience often choose this augment because numerous small turbos are better suited to lending a power increase with less turbo lag than fewer, larger ones. The choice of an inline six was influenced by tradition, not to mention that lag is less pronouced in a larger engine with a decent torque band.

[Ominous Gamer]

Im pretty sure that this is very, very wrong. Proof: http://www.supercars.net/cars/1397.html R34
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1396.html R33
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1394.html R32

All you did was quote performance and type packages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Skyline
Look at the numbers for the base and stock Skylines. These cars are as common as trash overseas. All we get in america are the ones worth paying the import and clean air fees on.

These are the numbers I'm using to compare the 350Z, Supra, and Skyline. Showing tougeman159 he is an idiot

[Mondial]

All you did was quote performance and type packages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Skyline
Look at the numbers for the base and stock Skylines. These cars are as common as trash overseas.

These are the numbers I'm using to compare the 350Z, Supra, and SKyline. Showing tougeman159 he is an idiot
Mkay my bad, i've only seen the Gt-R spec Skylines.

[stonerkid]

Thats right man u tell em wut ricers really are, they are just kid's that think lights, bumpers, paint, and sticker adds horsepower.....hahaha NOT! People that drive tuners know what their cars can do and know what to do with em. One thing that pisses me off about ricers is the tail lights. Umm, they always seem to put the tail lights on first, which is a waste of time does not benefit you and your car anyways. Tuners know how to do it, start with exhaust, air, pipes, engine, electric, turbo, and the more extreme stuff. You got it right man thank you tougeman159. Supra's are dragons man, you should hear them and they sound like a dragon also they can pushed past 1000+ and look stock and be street legal!!

damn straight...my friend david has a 93 civic si...he's straight jdm he hates rice...he just got a b18c5...the motor was more than he paid for the car...we work on it everyday in his garage...still won't start...waiting on new igniter to come in...he's had the car for a month spent his entire life savings on it...just got an exedy stage 2 clutch...it's gonna be so bad ass

[Empee]

All you did was quote performance and type packages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Skyline
Look at the numbers for the base and stock Skylines. These cars are as common as trash overseas. All we get in america are the ones worth paying the import and clean air fees on.

These are the numbers I'm using to compare the 350Z, Supra, and Skyline. Showing tougeman159 he is an idiot

I see what you mean, that single turbo and naturally aspirated Skylines have the same performance 'accessories' despite performing at an inferior level to hot hatches and sports sedans which happen to do without. I'm not even going to defend that since I'm not one for that kind of stuff anyway. . .I like many of Japan's performance icons, but if I bought one, our first hour together would be spent removing the wing.

[topsp33d3r]

you guys are not very smart about cars... skylines with about 300 hp with turbo inline 6, supra come with around 300 also. skyline is only a 2.5 liter i think while the supra is about 3.2 or something. but the 350z's VQ35 engine is about 3.5-3.6 which gives greater displacement plus they have newer technology such as vvt-i or someother electronic application that controls the valves which can alter the response of the 4 stroke engine. Plus skyline engines are not, let me say again are not $90,000(USD)they are only like $5000-$6000, if it had a $90,000 engine that would rip something apart man. you guys seriously need to take a auto tech class or something before you say something about cars. my cousin sent his skyline to Florida from Yokosuka, JPN and it is very powerful. dont underestimate any car guys, wut if someone badmouthed on your ride, I bet you would feel ashamed. I say you need to watch wut you say.

[topsp33d3r]

Lolz and again about the $90,000 stock gt-r engine heres a well tuned one by Top Secret Engineering its need the botton of the pagehttp://www.topsecretjpn.com/engine.shtml

[Ominous Gamer]

you guys are not very smart about cars... skylines with about 300 hp with turbo inline 6, supra come with around 300 also. skyline is only a 2.5 liter i think while the supra is about 3.2 or something. but the 350z's VQ35 engine is about 3.5-3.6 which gives greater displacement plus they have newer technology such as vvt-i or someother electronic application that controls the valves which can alter the response of the 4 stroke engine. Plus skyline engines are not, let me say again are not $90,000(USD)they are only like $5000-$6000, if it had a $90,000 engine that would rip something apart man. you guys seriously need to take a auto tech class or something before you say something about cars. my cousin sent his skyline to Florida from Yokosuka, JPN and it is very powerful. dont underestimate any car guys, wut if someone badmouthed on your ride, I bet you would feel ashamed. I say you need to watch wut you say.

This class, is how you talk out your ass.

[Jake33]

wut if someone badmouthed on your ride, I bet you would feel ashamed. I say you need to watch wut you say.

Psh no. I would just simply argue with them about they're Rice cake. And how ugly it is.

[stonerkid]

Psh no. I would just simply argue with them about they're Rice cake. And how ugly it is.


sadly if some1 called my car a piece of **** i'd have to agree

[Jake33]

sadly if some1 called my car a piece of **** i'd have to agree

See, this is what makes you better than everybody else on this forum. Being honest. That's why Ominous Gamer has so many people who respect him, because he's honest. That's why I decided to come forth with my real car instead of the lie about the SRT8.

[JW29]

A supra,evolution, and skyline is not a ricer material.
attributes of a rice car-


Their ricers to me. Dont like it tough ****.

[Dr Jones]

How to properly tune a ricer.

http://crazyjim.ramelot.com/14seconds.htm

[MattR92]

How to properly tune a ricer.

http://crazyjim.ramelot.com/14seconds.htm
Lol, they had fun.

[BlackZ06]

dumbest ****ing statement made in this forum section in a long, long time.
You do understand that the most popular Skylines (R32 - R34) put out less then 200hp at stock right? Meaning that 90% of the time when you see a wing on one its completely pointless. Of course speed doesn't mean a car can be rice free, I've seen my fair share of lambos that got hit by their owner's rice bats.
Also, the non-turbo 350Z has a hp of 306, while the Supra has a rating of 220hp.

I wonder were you drunk when you were typing this? Even gts-t has over 200HP stock and your talking about r34 being under 200? Lol also the 350Z has 300hp but it was made after supras were discontinued so compared to 300zx supra will kick Nissans ass plus it has more potential when boosted than a tt 350z.

[Ominous Gamer]

I wonder were you drunk when you were typing this? Even gts-t has over 200HP stock and your talking about r34 being under 200? Lol also the 350Z has 300hp but it was made after supras were discontinued so compared to 300zx supra will kick Nissans ass plus it has more potential when boosted than a tt 350z.

again, you're talking about performance and option packages.
this has already been covered, try reading the thread and supporting linkage.

[Empee]

I wonder were you drunk when you were typing this? Even gts-t has over 200HP stock and your talking about r34 being under 200?

With the R34, one had to buy the GT-T, (subordinate only to the GT-R) to break 200 hp. The three trims beneath it range from 138 -190. Ominous said that the majority of Skylines on the road don't break 200 hp stock, and I think he's right. Consider the Mustang - sure the GT breaks 300 and makes respectable numbers, but it's outsold at least 2 to 1 by lesser variants because not everyone wants or can afford (trim premium, gas, insurance) the extra performance.

[BlackZ06]

again, you're talking about performance and option packages.
this has already been covered, try reading the thread and supporting linkage.

Well you started talking about performance in the first place suggesting that skylines are rice and now you're trying to make everyone to stay on topic.

[Empee]

Well you started talking about performance in the first place suggesting that skylines are rice and now you're trying to make everyone to stay on topic.

You're missing the point.

Chances are that for every GT-R you see, there were two, three, perhaps even more lower-trim Skylines sold. Most of them use either a single turbo or a naturally aspirated version of the RB series I6 that made significantly less power, which brings into question the necessity of the aero parts featured on a broad number of Skylines when so few of them had the performance to justify them. More incredibly, I think JDM vehicles have/had governors to further regulate driving conduct, as Road & Track's stateside test of a R34 GT-R imported by MotoRex revealed a top speed of 112 mph. Do you really need a wing that could double as a park bench for a vehicle that slow?

[BlackZ06]

You're missing the point.

Chances are that for every GT-R you see, there were two, three, perhaps even more lower-trim Skylines sold. Most of them use either a single turbo or a naturally aspirated version of the RB series I6 that made significantly less power, which brings into question the necessity of the aero parts featured on a broad number of Skylines when so few of them had the performance to justify them. More incredibly, I think JDM vehicles have/had governors to further regulate driving conduct, as Road & Track's stateside test of a R34 GT-R imported by MotoRex revealed a top speed of 112 mph. Do you really need a wing that could double as a park bench for a vehicle that slow?

Ok thanks for clearing that out I see the point now.

[ThirtyTwo]

Sorry to get back on topic. :o
The 1st time I saw the term Ricer, it sounded more like a racist description.
Considering where most of the ricer cars originate, i'm still not sure.:confused:

[madskillz]

Sorry to get back on topic. :o
The 1st time I saw the term Ricer, it sounded more like a racist description.
Considering where most of the ricer cars originate, i'm still not sure.:confused:

It IS a racist term. Of course, everyone knows that rice paddies are common fixtures in Asia. Rice rocket, Rice Burner, anything outside of talking about Mahatma Rice is derogatory. I haven't reported any posts in the past over this, but I will start ... There's no need for this convo anyhow ... we should try to be sensitive to folks of other races.

Any Asian racer is called a rice (add your word, here). I vote to ban the term ...

[BMW GUY]

That's why Ominous Gamer has so many people who respect him, because he's honest.

so pulling numbers out of ones ass in a chance to feel important is considered honesty these days?

[monstertruggy]

sweet ride, are those tin foil rims? Love 'em, are they for sale ill buy them for 5,000:D :p

[Jake33]

NO. Bad joke.

Anyways, we done with this topic?
And well, madskillz... The topic's title is 'Do you even know what a Ricer is?'

The word is right in there. I don't think it's a racial comment if we're talking about a topic that's IN the title.

[madskillz]

I fully understand the topic, but the term and any use of the word is offensive, plain and simple. My real job, a copy editor, is to eliminate libel and racial terms out of stories. And there's absolutely no practical use for the word except in an offensive context.

Being sensitive to racial-charged words and situations would really make this world a much better place.

[steven125]

All you did was quote performance and type packages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Skyline
Look at the numbers for the base and stock Skylines. These cars are as common as trash overseas. All we get in america are the ones worth paying the import and clean air fees on.

These are the numbers I'm using to compare the 350Z, Supra, and Skyline. Showing tougeman159 he is an idiot
this page you posted to prove the skyline is a ricer with less than 200 HP says this word for word about the Skyline R32

The GT-R (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Skyline_GT-R) returned with twin ceramic turbochargers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbocharger), all-wheel steering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-wheel_steering), all wheel drive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_wheel_drive), and 280 hp (206 kW) at 6800 rpm. The RB26DETT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_RB_engine) engine actually produced ~320 hp, but it was unstated due to the Japanese car makers' "gentlemen's agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen%27s_agreement)" not to exceed 206 kW (276 hp).

[turboR34GT-R]

ive heard some crazy things before but half the things in this post are comin from peoples asses, though some know what they are talking about. in short the 350z has a vq35de 35 stands for 3.5 liters and makes 300bhp the supra has a 2jzgte which is a 3 liter and makes around 280-300bhp, in twin turbo trim, the skylines came as either a gt gts-t gt-r or v-spec models yes theres others but thats not important now. the gt's had the rb20de motor which was a rwd 2 liter n/a motor with roughly 200bhp give or take, the gts-t had the rb25det, a 2.5 liter single turbo rwd with about 250 bhp and the gt-r's and up all had the rb26dett, the 2.6 liter twin turbo inline 6 awd produced a claimed 280bhp but actually produced roughly 330 - 350 bhp stock. nissan along with other japanese companies, signed a voluntary agreement that would limit horsepower out on cars, and they have been building cars beyond those limits for a few years now, the v-spec II models of the r34 gt-r could reach speeds of around 170mp/h, stock, thats why the speedometer goes to 320 km/h and yes ive seen them do it. point is that yes anything can be a ricer thats true but if your gonna start spittin numbers make sure they are correct

[topsp33d3r]

all right the Z has a 3.5L engine and puts about 306 hp which is NA and puts about 230ft-lbs of torque. Ok now lets create a new one by Toyota/Lexus which is about 3.5L, but with the twin turbo trim... WOWOWOWOWOWWEEEEEEEEEWOW. Thats about 400+hp. I have been hearing many rumors of the new Supra and concepts, looks sleek like a Ferrari and I heard they are going to make a v6, v8 and maybe a v10!!! HAHA and about them ricers, sad sad sad sad, they dont noe anything about cars, they always start with their headlights and taillights which add no HP! That is the def of a ricer!!!

[Artz330]

I fully understand the topic, but the term and any use of the word is offensive, plain and simple. My real job, a copy editor, is to eliminate libel and racial terms out of stories. And there's absolutely no practical use for the word except in an offensive context.

Being sensitive to racial-charged words and situations would really make this world a much better place.

uhhh okay, when you say rice you say that there car is rice, not the person that is drving it. There are americans that drive tastless civics, not just asians

[bigbadstang]

... we should try to be sensitive to folks of other races.

Any Asian racer is called a rice (add your word, here). I vote to ban the term ...

posted by a "lazy, illiterate American". if you think that the rest of the world is so "sensitive" to other races, you are naive.

your "voting to ban", and flipping out the race card shows you must be a devout liberal.

my sympathies.

[madskillz]

posted by a "lazy, illiterate American". if you think that the rest of the world is so "sensitive" to other races, you are naive.

your "voting to ban", and flipping out the race card shows you must be a devout liberal.

my sympathies.

No need for your sympathies. I am sensitive to make sure I am not offending other races - there's no need for that foolishness. I don't agree with it one bit - there's no place for this crap - unless you're a skinhead, Nazi or bigot. Then yeah ... you wouldn't see anything wrong with it. I bet you have a lot of respect for gay rights - affirmative action - and probably think the Holocaust was a fairy tale ...

It's folks like you that make the world a horrible place. Thanks so much for reaffirming my stance ...

[bigbadstang]

No need for your sympathies. I am sensitive to make sure I am not offending other races - there's no need for that foolishness. I don't agree with it one bit - there's no place for this crap - unless you're a skinhead, Nazi or bigot. Then yeah ... you wouldn't see anything wrong with it. I bet you have a lot of respect for gay rights - affirmative action - and probably think the Holocaust was a fairy tale ...

It's folks like you that make the world a horrible place. Thanks so much for reaffirming my stance ...

yep... confirmed!
sound the alarm!!
there is a bleeding heart, sob sister liberal amongst us!
gay rights...thanks for reaffirming my stance...
you feel you have the right to report this thread/post...but why do you think that others wouldnt have the right to report your post about being pro-gay and etc...oh i almost forgot...'cause you are a liberal!!
this isnt the thread for your crap...stay on topic...lol.
btw... i am not any of those things you mentioned, but i am a conservative American and damn proud of it!!
nice try Nancy.

now back to your regularly scheduled thread...

[madskillz]

yep... confirmed!
sound the alarm!!
there is a bleeding heart, sob sister liberal amongst us!
gay rights...thanks for reaffirming my stance...
you feel you have the right to report this thread/post...but why do you think that others wouldnt have the right to report your post about being pro-gay and etc...oh i almost forgot...'cause you are a liberal!!
this isnt the thread for your crap...stay on topic...lol.
btw... i am not any of those things you mentioned, but i am a conservative American and damn proud of it!!
nice try Nancy.

now back to your regularly scheduled thread...

It's so sad your views are poisoning this thread. If you know something offends someone, why continue to do it? Seriously, big bad stang, you no doubt are the kind of person who thinks your views ARE the only views and could care less about being sensitive to folks. It's called 'being considerate' and either you're too young to understand it or not intelligent enough to comprehend it. I guess your views are something like ... so what someone is offended by my statements - that's them, not me. Nice ...

You seem to lead a sad, sad life ... I feel for you ...

The term, ricer, or anything pertaining to rice, is offensive.

[bigbadstang]

:blah:
sorry...does this smiley offend you? maybe we should ban it.

i live quite happily thank you.
you are the one walking through life on eggshells trying not to do "this", or banning "that". or if i a upset someone. i may cry...
no i dont go around bashing on people (except liberals). i have friends of many different races. my problem with your vision is that i see them for WHO they are...not WHAT they are.
try spending some of you energy living life a little, and stop being so afraid of offending someone.

i am done with this issue with you on this thread.
now go away...
i will not reply here...so flame away...you wont offend ME!

[madskillz]

:blah:
sorry...does this smiley offend you? maybe we should ban it.

i live quite happiy thank you.
you are the one walking through life on eggshells trying not to do "this", or banning "that". or if i a upset someone. i may cry...
no i dont go around bashing on people (except liberals). i have friends of many different races. my problem with your vision is that i see them for WHO they are...not WHAT they are.
try spending some of you energy living life a little, and stop being so afraid of offending someone.

i am done with this issue with you on this thread.
now go away...
i will not reply here...so flame away...you wont offend ME!

Happy? With the venom oozing out of your response, I doubt it. I live life to the fullest - I am not promised today, or tomorrow ... everyday. I am thankful to be here, and I don't see the need to offend anyone. You obviously aren't concerned about any of your actions and aren't considerate to others. You generalize folks and your comments are rather prejudice. You are a conservative? Do you even understand the term? What in the devil are you conserving? A close-minded view?

Maybe you should think about getting your GED or high school diploma and learn why you believe what you believe first before attacking someone's view. Your views are twisted, and really sound like a child trying to explain how his parents views are, and not his.

If you see nothing wrong with an offensive term, such as ricer, rice rocket, you need a change of heart ...

[bigbadstang]

i know i said i wouldnt reply...
but...is that the best you can do?
buck up, grab a box of kleenex and try again.
it's funny that you think i am an uneducated child...that's the best one yet...you got madskillz alright... :rolleyes:

now i am done thread hi-jacking...and you need to stay on topic or shut up.

[Dreadnaught]

Come on, folks, there's no reason to make this so personal.

[Firecatman]

If they're loud and have big wings or wheels that look after market. It's riced.

RICE RICE BABY!

and have a fart tip that is bigger than the pistons
and ten pounds of vinals to make it faster:p

[LS1ws62001]

this is cool, fighting over whats "riced", i like mostly all cars, now a dayz any car has potential, it depends how far you go with the car. but it still pisses me off driving around and hearing the fart cannons every friday night... tohse noobeez!

[blk95ta]

FWIW you dont have to own a japanese car to be a "Ricer"

case and point, heres a Mustang i would consider "rice"

and yes that looks like the stock REAR spoiler on the hood :confused:

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/files/mustang_rice_163.jpg

[bigbadstang]

THAT is what is known as a RiceStang. so sad...:sour:

[Jake33]

My dad owned a 1969 Mustang and stuck a 330 engine in it(I think it was a 330) And stroked it out to a 351, he twisted the rear end of the car and had to scrap it, we still have the Engine in our garage completely restored, if anyone knows anybody or has a classic mustang it would be practically sold instantly to my father, he has a large amount of money saved away for it, about 30 grand.

[bigbadstang]

ford made a 302 from 1968 to 2000.
they also made a 289 from 1963 to 1968.
then they made the 351 windsor from 1969 to 1997.
and they also made a 351 cleveland starting in 1970.
and a 351 and 400 modified cleveland (for emissions) in the mid 1970's. these modifieds (M's they were called) were mainly used in trucks and large cars and were more of a work horse than a performance engine.
a stock block 302/5.0L can safely be stroked and poked to 347 cubic inches. stock blocked 351w's can usually be safely stretched to 427 cubes.
the clevelands were totally different than the windsors, and the easiest way to tell the difference is that on a windsor which includes 289,302,351 is that the upper water outlet is on the intake manifold. on a cleveland/modified, the water outlet is on the block.
if i had to guess, i would say that it is probably a 351w that maybe your father had bored .020" or .030". they do make good torque, and if hammered on alot, or wheel hop was an issue could destroy the 8.0" rearend. a 351w will fit into most mustangs from 1967 to 1995 with relative ease. 1964 1/2-1966 will work too but it is a very tight fit without moving the shock towers outward. your dad should be able to pick up a very nice mustang from practically any body style (excluding Bosses and Shelbys) or year for his 30k. if he goes looking, be cautious as to the condition, or condition of repair to frame rails and floor pans. a hack job underneath can be a major headache/cost within a year. sorry to babble on....i love my Fords!

[Jake33]

ford made a 302 from 1968 to 2000.
they also made a 289 from 1963 to 1968.
then they made the 351 windsor from 1969 to 1997.
and they also made a 351 cleveland starting in 1970.
and a 351 and 400 modified cleveland (for emissions) in the mid 1970's. these modifieds (M's they were called) were mainly used in trucks and large cars and were more of a work horse than a performance engine.
a stock block 302/5.0L can safely be stroked and poked to 347 cubic inches. stock blocked 351w's can usually be safely stretched to 427 cubes.
the clevelands were totally different than the windsors, and the easiest way to tell the difference is that on a windsor which includes 289,302,351 is that the upper water outlet is on the intake manifold. on a cleveland/modified, the water outlet is on the block.
if i had to guess, i would say that it is probably a 351w that maybe your father had bored .020" or .030". they do make good torque, and if hammered on alot, or wheel hop was an issue could destroy the 8.0" rearend. a 351w will fit into most mustangs from 1967 to 1995 with relative ease. 1964 1/2-1966 will work too but it is a very tight fit without moving the shock towers outward. your dad should be able to pick up a very nice mustang from practically any body style (excluding Bosses and Shelbys) or year for his 30k. if he goes looking, be cautious as to the condition, or condition of repair to frame rails and floor pans. a hack job underneath can be a major headache/cost within a year. sorry to babble on....i love my Fords!



Quite the history and knowledge you have. I asked my dad, and the Motor that he had dropped in his 'stang was from a 1970 Boss '302. The Body on the Boss had be wrecked in a accident when a 18' Wheeler hit the back of the car and tore out the rear seats with the drive shaft still connected. I'll get some pictures of the 351 if you wanted to see some, it's blue that's all I know off the top of my head.

[stonerkid]

I fully understand the topic, but the term and any use of the word is offensive, plain and simple. My real job, a copy editor, is to eliminate libel and racial terms out of stories. And there's absolutely no practical use for the word except in an offensive context.

Being sensitive to racial-charged words and situations would really make this world a much better place.

quit being so damn politically correct...i'm half asian (pakistani) and i really don't give a **** lol i don't find it offensive it's talkin about a damn group of cars that think that big rims and body kits give them ****in' horsepower...o yea random but i'm buying a 91 eagle talon tsi awd =D

[bigbadstang]

Quite the history and knowledge you have. I asked my dad, and the Motor that he had dropped in his 'stang was from a 1970 Boss '302. The Body on the Boss had be wrecked in a accident when a 18' Wheeler hit the back of the car and tore out the rear seats with the drive shaft still connected. I'll get some pictures of the 351 if you wanted to see some, it's blue that's all I know off the top of my head.

sounds good!
a Boss 302 is basically a 4 bolt main 302 block with 351Cleveland heads on it. the Boss 302 used rods that were the same size as a 289 (shorter than a 302). by using a different piston pin height, this yields a better rod ratio which is better suited for high rpm power. the cleveland style heads have canted valves and came in 2V and 4V (V stands for venturi...not valve)and the 4V's had HUGE intake ports (you can stick a pack of cigs in the intake ports!!) the Boss 302 was built in limited production to qualify the engine to be raced in a mustang car in the TransAm racing series, so it was really a top end screamer, and didnt make tons of power down low...but they would easily rev to 7000 rpm and make well over 300hp.
you can make your own boss 302 by using cleveland heads and drilling a 5/8" hole on the deck surface of the head for a water passage. but then you need a boss style intake manifild and boss style exhaust manifolds, or headers. with the high quality aftermarket windsor style heads available now, no one really does the cleveland head swap anymore, it used to be the only way to get good breathing heads for a windsor style small block ford.
btw... the 69 Boss 302 had the 4v cleveland heads while the 70 Boss 302 had the smaller ported 2V which made the car more suited for street use.

man... i keep hi-jackin this thread...lol...sorry guys!

[bigbadstang]

quit being so damn politically correct...i'm half asian (pakistani) and i really don't give a **** lol i don't find it offensive it's talkin about a damn group of cars that think that big rims and body kits give them ****in' horsepower...o yea random but i'm buying a 91 eagle talon tsi awd =D

you are right on the money! Riced...when wings and wheels make it fast...lol!

and does anyone know what the heck NAWS is?
lmao...
damn fast and the furious crap...

N20=Nitrous...
NAWS= NOS (brand name for Nitrous Oxide Systems)
you gotta love hollywood!!
they hit the nitrous in their turd grinders and it nearly snaps their heads off! :lol-sign:

[WakkaSSj3]

you are right on the money! Riced...when wings and wheels make it fast...lol!

and does anyone know what the heck NAWS is?
lmao...
damn fast and the furious crap...

N20=Nitrous...
NAWS= NOS (brand name for Nitrous Oxide Systems)
you gotta love hollywood!!
they hit the nitrous in their turd grinders and it nearly snaps their heads off! :lol-sign:

and it was funny watching the FnF2, when their hitting the 'NAWS' and only doing 140... i was able to pull 132 outa my STOCK WRX. havent gone any faster cuz i havent been to a track yet (i'd rather not get another ticket, y'kno)

[bigbadstang]

and it was funny watching the FnF2, when their hitting the 'NAWS' and only doing 140... i was able to pull 132 outa my STOCK WRX. havent gone any faster cuz i havent been to a track yet (i'd rather not get another ticket, y'kno)

after seeing the first movie (reran on HBO, cuse i wasnt going to pay 8 bucks to see it), and how it was all bull$hit, and waaay over the top, i couldnt bring myself to sit through the misery of the 2nd one!

[Jake33]

after seeing the first movie (reran on HBO, cuse i wasnt going to pay 8 bucks to see it), and how it was all bull$hit, and waaay over the top, i couldnt bring myself to sit through the misery of the 2nd one!

Yeah, they totally over exaggerate with Nitrous in movies and games.

[stonerkid]

and it was funny watching the FnF2, when their hitting the 'NAWS' and only doing 140... i was able to pull 132 outa my STOCK WRX. havent gone any faster cuz i havent been to a track yet (i'd rather not get another ticket, y'kno)

haha i got 130 in my almost stock talon

[Jake33]

haha i got 130 in my almost stock talon

Yeah, I know. 80,000 tuned cars hitting 140. With Nitrous, go out and buy a Mustang or any American V8, and you can hit like 150MPH [240KPH].

[stonerkid]

Yeah, I know. 80,000 tuned cars hitting 140. With Nitrous, go out and buy a Mustang or any American V8, and you can hit like 150MPH [240KPH].

only thing done to my talon is bored a little...and rebuilt turbo with upgraded turbine