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Naruto65
03-01-2007, 06:40 PM
Ok so we know that there is a roster of 16+. Nobody has done this yet so i figured i would make a poll showing you which monsters that us fans would like in the game. These monsters are the ones that have not made a game appearance. Also it's just to see what the top 3 most wanted monsters are for Godzilla Unleashed.
Naruto
KaiserGodzillaX
03-01-2007, 06:55 PM
Looks like the people want the same 3 so far...
xenotactics
03-01-2007, 07:23 PM
It's a good poll, Naruto. Fan wishes may not make much difference this late, but at least we can vent our hopes and see which monsters would be included if the Atari Forums community had its choice.
Timothy2035
03-01-2007, 07:26 PM
I went with Biollante, Varan and Zilla. I wrestled with Battra, but I wanted to see Varan instead.
Naruto65
03-01-2007, 07:27 PM
Come on i know you people want Mg75!
Naruto
chris55
03-01-2007, 07:33 PM
Come on i know you people want Mg74!
Naruto
How come you didn't add him to your poll?
Timothy2035
03-01-2007, 07:36 PM
How come you didn't add him to your poll?
Well he did, but he has the year as 1975 in the poll, but typed 1974 in his posts. :heart:
thetopcrusader
03-01-2007, 07:43 PM
I want Titanosaurus, too, but ran out of votes.
Anyway, I voted Mecha75, Varan, and "other" Godzilla... meaning any from the Showa era...
gvamp
03-01-2007, 07:53 PM
I voted for all the monstes
Naruto65
03-01-2007, 07:55 PM
gvamp ur supposed to vote for 3! if everybody votes for all of them, then there's pretty much no point in having the pole. ;)
Naruto
VENOMZILLA
03-01-2007, 08:00 PM
I chose Mechagodzilla 74/75, Zilla, and Godzilla 1954/55
I hadn't noticed, but was Gorosaurus on the list?
gvamp
03-01-2007, 08:01 PM
Well sorry if all the options are available I'll vote the way I want to :D
Adrok
03-01-2007, 08:08 PM
I chose (most importantly #1)
1.Titanosaurus
2.MG '75
3.King Caesar
Blue Cup
03-01-2007, 08:19 PM
I voted for MG'74/75, Zilla and Titanosaurus.
D.D.R.U.S.
03-01-2007, 08:28 PM
I have placed my choosing appon the following Toho related Kaiju:
Biollante, King Ceasar, MechaGodzilla.
Naruto65
03-01-2007, 08:34 PM
@ gvamp, well i guess your right, cause i couldn't limit the amount you can choice.
@ Venomzilla, I didn't include Gorosaurus, seeing how his popularity isn't all that great.
Naruto
Brianzilla2004
03-01-2007, 09:00 PM
1. Biollante
2. Kumonga
3. Manda
GODZILLA 1985
03-01-2007, 09:51 PM
1.Biollante
2.Zilla
3.Monster X
KaiserGodzillaX
03-01-2007, 11:51 PM
Oh I forgot to say what I voted for.
1.Biollante
2.MG75
3.Zilla
Timothy2035
03-02-2007, 12:17 AM
Also it's just to see what the top 3 most wanted monsters are for Godzilla Unleashed.
Naruto
So far its MG '74, Biollante and Zilla. Battra and Kamacuras are the least desired.
Not bad for a few hours of voting. There are more votes to flow in surely.
KaiserGodzillaX
03-02-2007, 12:29 AM
The lesser enemies should be added in the background of a Monster Island stage.
gvamp
03-02-2007, 12:31 AM
Or they could be summons
KG Kaiju
03-02-2007, 12:35 AM
My picks are Biollante, Titanosaurus, and Monster X. I would have picked Kaizer Ghidorah, but I would like to see Monster X transform into Kaizer like Mothra (larva to Moth).
This is a good poll but you probably should have told members to pick 5 kaiju instead of only 3. Having only 3 picks increases the chance that answers will be more varied, as some kaiju that are picks with one member will undoubtedly be on the bubble with others. I do like this poll and think that it is a good idea though. :cool: :up:
KaiserGodzillaX
03-02-2007, 12:43 AM
Or they could be summons
Heh even beter... Ebirah underwater grapple... Kumacuras attack struggle... Battra air strike... what else...
gvamp
03-02-2007, 12:44 AM
Or you could have voted for everyone like me :up:
The main new monsters I want are
Biollante
Zilla
Hedorah
Kumonga/King Ceaser (both are tied)
anyone else is just a bonus
KaiserGodzillaX
03-02-2007, 12:47 AM
How about Gotengo and SuperX1-3 summonings?
D.D.R.U.S.
03-02-2007, 12:49 AM
The main ones for me is
Biollante
King Ceasar
Titanosaurus
MechaGodzilla
Everything else is just a treat.
Naruto65
03-02-2007, 01:16 AM
I asked to vote for three cause that's the likely hood of how many new monsters we're going to get. 5 is unrealistic, but a good thought. I voted for MG75, Biollante, and Zilla.
Naruto
xenotactics
03-02-2007, 07:45 AM
I voted for Varan, Biollante, and Hedorah. Not only do I like those monsters particularly, but they seem like three that could each bring something new to the table.
theguardian
03-02-2007, 01:12 PM
voted
Biollante
Hedorah
and Zilla
chris55
03-02-2007, 01:26 PM
I got a little theory here about Biollante. She's already in the DS game. Why spend the rights for a character and use her ONLY in the DS game? It's obvious that she's on atari's mind so she may very well be in the Wii game.
Timothy2035
03-02-2007, 01:42 PM
Battra is in too. I said the same point about those 2 monsters being in the game since they were on the DS. Funny thing though, on the DS, Showa Gigan is in a screen shot.
Naruto65
03-02-2007, 04:17 PM
People who go to different G forums should copy and paste this page. I know tons of people would join the community that way!
Naruto
gvamp
03-02-2007, 05:02 PM
Or we could just create similar threads at said forums because many sites have rules about advertising ;)
D.D.R.U.S.
03-02-2007, 05:33 PM
People I long said all of this.
KaiserDestroyer
03-02-2007, 08:01 PM
I voted Kaiser Ghidorah, Titanosaurus and Biollante.
Seriously, I'd KILL for Kaiser Ghidorah. ;)
ShiningDarkLord
03-02-2007, 10:15 PM
I only voted twice, for Zilla and Biollante. They're the only two on that I'm certain I would like to see in Unleashed. As for my third choice, I like King Ceasar, Kumonga, and Manda, but I just couldn't choose between them.
darthzilla99
03-02-2007, 10:43 PM
I voted Monster x, Titano, and Hedorah. I wanted to vote more, but I love those kaiju and my other favorite kaiju are in GSTE. (Though I am wondering if spacegodzilla will get cut? I hope he does not, hes my all-time favorite godzilla villain.)
Timothy2035
03-02-2007, 11:30 PM
well if Space Godzilla is cut I know DDRUS will have a cow...:confused:
MechaG '74, Biollante and Zilla are still the top 3 picks.
Naruto65
03-03-2007, 12:19 AM
All i can say is poor Battra.
Naruto
D.D.R.U.S.
03-03-2007, 12:21 AM
:haha: it sounded someone said SpaceGodzilla will be cut:haha:
SpaceGodzilla is my best character in STE he's the only one that I've beat Survival Mode on Hard with more than five times the only other monster I beat it with was Godzilla 90's and I only got half as many points with 90's.
Brianzilla2004
03-03-2007, 12:21 AM
Mr. Strange, which of those monsters would you want most in Godzilla Unleashed (supposing you were in our situation, and didn't know what the roster would be).
mogurea.clone11
03-03-2007, 06:19 PM
I voted for titanosaurus, hedorah,and manda. I'm kinda surprised hedorah hasen't made it in yet.
DeaconRien
03-03-2007, 07:25 PM
I voted for Biollante, Hedorah and Titanosaurus
My personal favorites though would be King Kong and Ebirah though as far as ones that I would like to see playable in the game,
Adrok
03-04-2007, 10:47 AM
Woo-hoo! Go Titanosaurus and MG '75! Too bad that the people picking the characters in the game aren't looking at this:(
Naruto65
03-04-2007, 04:42 PM
Actually Mr. Strange get's to see this.
Naruto
mogurea.clone11
03-04-2007, 05:10 PM
Why does evreyone hate battra?
Adrok
03-04-2007, 09:35 PM
Actually Mr. Strange get's to see this.
Naruto
Well, hopefully he takes a peek:)
Naruto65
03-05-2007, 09:52 AM
So far it's Titanosaurus Biollante and Zilla. NO MG74 is losing!
Naruto
Godzillafan26
03-05-2007, 03:20 PM
I voted for Mechagodzilla "74. It would be so cool using his force field as a defense move.
Super Hedorah X
03-05-2007, 03:37 PM
Vote for hedorah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hulkzilla1164
03-20-2007, 07:41 AM
were is Rodan???
Rodan has to be in this game!!!
Timothy2035
03-20-2007, 10:31 AM
Thanks for voting...
So far top 3: Biollante, Zilla and Titanosaurus.
Oasis_G_S
03-20-2007, 11:56 PM
Ah, I voted for Biollante, Varan, and Zilla.
Biollante is pretty much a given. Varan...well, we just don't see alot of varan at all so, it'd be nice to have a game where you could see him whenever you want. I wasn't sure between Monster X, Hedorah, and Zilla but, I figured Zilla would be more well known to people than the other two so he would have a higher chance...and who doesn't want a better Godzilla VS Zilla than the one in Final Wars?
Meleefan12
03-21-2007, 04:10 PM
That was supposed to happen. That is how Toho got back at Tristar for mistreating Godzilla.
zillah 91
03-23-2007, 12:22 PM
IMO, they should have an option where, upon selecting Godzilla, the player should be able to choose the look for him from '1954, Showa, '90s, 2000, GMK, GFW etc'
Kaiju_katamari
03-23-2007, 09:12 PM
I voted Biollante, Hedorah, and MG74/75. It should be noted that the 75 costume would be an easy alternate costume for MG74, should it be included. The terror of mechagodzilla should continue.
I would really like to see King Caesar replace Jet Jaguar, please. That would have been vote #4.
In retrospect I should not have voted for Biollante, as she seems to be a sure thing.
I think that Ebirah, Kumonga and Kamacuras should be summons. Ebirah could attack from sea; Kumonga could be a freeze attack with its webbing, and Kamacuras could be a land damage attack, perhaps airborne at first and swooping in.
Would it be wrong if Kong were in the game? Then you would have to include Mechanikong as well!!! There could be an armada of mecha-kaiju:
Mechagodzilla 1974, 1975, 90's, and the 2002-3 versions, Moguera, Mecha-King Ghidorah, and Mechanikong to top it off! Did I miss any? Yes, I know Jet Jaguar was a robot. No I didn't include him...
gforever
03-29-2007, 03:11 PM
Come on i know you people want Mg75!
Naruto
MG'74 & 75 can easily be included as alternate skins. Man this is a tough one but realistically, we already have Kiryu & most likely MG'93. I have a feeling Biollante is going to make the roster so I want to see Hedorah, Titanosaurus, Zilla.
I am choosing Zilla because it would be fun recreating the Godzilla Vs. Zilla fight scene which was so short in GFW.
Hedorah is a must! who wouldn't want to be a pile of sludge?
Going between King Caesar & Titanosaurus, I prefer Titanosaurus since I'm more of a reptilian guy. hahaha
Those were tough choices but theres my 3 votes.
I do hope we can get some Godzilla skins too. I prefer G w/ a blue breathe over the orig G2000. Why not make G2000 like the Pachinko Game, Godzilla CR? G2000 w/ blue breathe. ;)
If Battra is playable, I hope its the Larva version. If Mothra Larva is taken out so having Battra Larva should be cool. But both Larva & Adult are welcomed! Just can't get enough of monsters!
Meleefan12
03-29-2007, 04:23 PM
I choose Titanosaurus.
Meleefan12
03-29-2007, 04:25 PM
Zilla was killed in Godzilla Final Wars really quick cause that is how Toho got back at Roland for mistreating Godzilla and I doubt Zilla will be in Godzilla Unleashed after that incident.:confused:
Naruto65
03-29-2007, 09:36 PM
So biollante is in the lead, obvious, followed by Zilla, and MG74 and Titanosaurus are tied for third!
Naruto
I went with Zilla, Manda, and Kumonga. Here's why.
First off, I didn't vote for Biollante and/or Battra simply because I'm certain they're already in it. Biollante was a hair's bredth away from being in Save the Earth and didn't make it supposedly because of due dates and such. Both of them are confirmed for the DS, as aforementioned. So, I'm just fairly positive they're already in.
As for monsters I'd really like to see but I'm scared won't make it, Zilla's at the top. I know that most "kaiju fans" hated him and just want him in the game so they can take a little longer kicking his butt than Final Wars did, but I genuinely like him. He's not a replacement for Godzilla, and his moveset would reflect that. Going by the U.S. movie, he had more strength in his arms for clawing/punching, and his breath attack was very close to what Anguirus' is in the games. I just think he'd be really fun.
Lastly, I've been in love with Manda and Kumonga ever since I saw the old Destroy All Monsters when I was little. It remains one of my favorite Godzilla movies to this day. I would just like to see the whole roster from that movie included in the game (perhaps without Minilla and Zilla as a replacement for Gorosaurus).
Anyway, that's just my long-winded, two cents worth. :)
This is a great idea, and something that we are considering in an official capacity.
Let me reassure everyone that the "plus" sign in "16+" is not a cop-out. We are planning to have significantly more than 16 monsters in the game, but since we don't have the final ones determined yet, we'll have to stick with "16+" (until we've got the final monster roster locked down).
So vote away and please post as many useful comments as you can!
cheers,
-herk
chris55
03-30-2007, 01:14 PM
So vote away and please post as many useful comments as you can!
cheers,
-herk
Put in a Toho creation instead of a "Original Monster" like 99% of the fandom wants judging from the backlash combined from this board and others.
:)
Godzilla '08
03-30-2007, 01:42 PM
I want G'75 please
Kaiju_katamari
03-30-2007, 01:57 PM
Put in a Toho creation instead of a "Original Monster" like 99% of the fandom wants judging from the backlash combined from this board and others.
Actually I think that the new design of monsters will be fine SO LONG AS THEY ARE TOHO APPROVED, POST-DESIGN. This will officially make the monsters part of Godzilla canon, and will relieve accountability from Atari, because Toho approved of them specifically. I know Toho approved the creation of the monsters, but that is not enough. The new monsters themselves need to be approved of by Toho, officially.
I know this isn't the subject of this thread, so I will digress.
gforever
03-30-2007, 02:01 PM
This is a great idea, and something that we are considering in an official capacity.
Let me reassure everyone that the "plus" sign in "16+" is not a cop-out. We are planning to have significantly more than 16 monsters in the game, but since we don't have the final ones determined yet, we'll have to stick with "16+" (until we've got the final monster roster locked down).
So vote away and please post as many useful comments as you can!
cheers,
-herk
This is EXCELLENT NEWS!
I will be very happy if we can get at least get 2 or 3 monsters from this poll in addition to the 18 playable from GSTE without being cut. But I'll be even more happier if we can get more & more of our favorites!
For Kaiju that don't make it into the playable rooster, a really good idea would be to include them in the background for example on Monster Island, a bunch of them like Gorosaurus, Manda, Kamacuras, Kumonga, even Gabara. LOL If you stay in the water too long, Ebirah can attack you.
They can attack you if you get too close to them or something. For example, in Dead or Alive 4, the area with the dinosaurs, you can use the environment as a weapon as well. In G:Unleashed, an idea would be when you throw someone towards "Manda's lair" Manda will bite you.
Also, if the throwing capability can be re-worked like the Ultraman Fighting Evolution Rebirth system, that would be a great idea as well.
These are just a few ideas that I stress would make Godzilla Unleashed an awesome game for the fans and an easy way to include more Kaiju into the game!
gforever
03-30-2007, 02:04 PM
Actually I think that the new design of monsters will be fine SO LONG AS THEY ARE TOHO APPROVED, POST-DESIGN. This will officially make the monsters part of Godzilla canon, and will relieve accountability from Atari, because Toho approved of them specifically. I know Toho approved the creation of the monsters, but that is not enough. The new monsters themselves need to be approved of by Toho, officially.
I know this isn't the subject of this thread, so I will digress.
Actually I don't think thats enough, Toho approved of GINO/Zilla's design. That was a huge mistake..... But ironically, I do want Zilla in this game so we can recreate the Japanese Godzilla vs American Godzilla fight!
I think its a better idea to have the Fans choose the design, or as mentioned in a previous post, have Fans submit their designs to Atari & then have people vote for a new monster!
Gorjirus
03-30-2007, 02:06 PM
I voted: Biollante, Hedorah and Battra.
Though my fourth vote would be for MG 75.
Though, for the kaiju that isn't on the list (and I know has a pretty much 0 chance of appearing since it is a comic kaiju) is Red Ronin. That would be the best addition possible.
BS Digital Q
03-30-2007, 02:28 PM
I voted for the three I felt would bring the most in terms of uniqueness and originality to the game: Biollante, Monster X, and Hedorah.
Biollante's a bit of a nobrainer by default. Hedorah's maellable form could allow for some interesting shapeshifting moves ala Clayface from the Batman animated series, and the toxic aura could be creatively used. And MX has mad martial arts skills. Whats not to love about that? And he's definitely better at it than a certain size-changing goofy robot.
Timothy2035
03-30-2007, 02:44 PM
hey that size changing robot has the coolest colors. :p Plus he can fly, if that is put into the game.
ShiningDarkLord
03-30-2007, 03:12 PM
This is a great idea, and something that we are considering in an official capacity.
Let me reassure everyone that the "plus" sign in "16+" is not a cop-out. We are planning to have significantly more than 16 monsters in the game, but since we don't have the final ones determined yet, we'll have to stick with "16+" (until we've got the final monster roster locked down).
So vote away and please post as many useful comments as you can!
cheers,
-herk
Well that's a relief! It's good to know that the roster will most likely have far more that just 16 characters.
You said post useful comments, does that mean we can post ideas for what moves and abilities a character can use here?
gvamp
03-30-2007, 03:20 PM
This is a great idea, and something that we are considering in an official capacity.
Let me reassure everyone that the "plus" sign in "16+" is not a cop-out. We are planning to have significantly more than 16 monsters in the game, but since we don't have the final ones determined yet, we'll have to stick with "16+" (until we've got the final monster roster locked down).
So vote away and please post as many useful comments as you can!
cheers,
-herk
I have to agree with Chris55, please get all the Toho monsters in the game before you start thinking about adding original monsters. Right now it's like 99% of the fans don't want originals in the game.
Naruto65
03-30-2007, 03:24 PM
You said post useful comments, does that mean we can post ideas for what moves and abilities a character can use here?
Please don't post moves list and other tidbits, just who you voted for and why that's it.
Naruto
Kaiju_katamari
03-30-2007, 04:06 PM
Please don't post moves list and other tidbits, just who you voted for and why that's it.
Naruto
Are you a moderator or an employee here? Just curious.
Gigan X3
03-30-2007, 04:11 PM
I hope Zilla makes it to Unleashed, he can be a very unique character.
On a side note, i voted for only one monster:eek: , didn't know i could vote for 3.:noob:
gforever
03-30-2007, 04:42 PM
Now I kinda wanna take back my vote from Titanosaurus for Monster X. Titano would be cool but Monster X might be a better fighter..... ah, I just want them all!!!! :haha:
TitanoGoji
03-30-2007, 07:03 PM
Well, I would've voted for Biollante, Hedorah, and Zilla, but they seemed to be doing just fine, so I voted for my next three choices: King Caesar, Monster X, and Titanosaurus.
King Caesar, if done right, could be a really fun tooth-and-claw kaiju like Angilas. Throw in his ability to reflect his opponent's beams and his super kick from Final Wars and he could be great to play as. Heck, maybe his ears could fold up while he's in Rage Mode! :D
Monster X... well, heck, he's basically born for a game like this.
And as much as I'd like to see Mechagodzilla '75 in G:U, I think I'd like to see Titanosaurus just a little bit more. His tail-fan could be a real fun weapon.
rwr32783
03-30-2007, 09:24 PM
Am I the only one that wants to see Gorosaurus in this game?
I also voted for Titanosaurus and Zilla. Biollante was a very, very close 4th choice, but ultimately i went with the three that would be easiest to control.
TitanoGoji
03-30-2007, 11:21 PM
As cool as Gorosaurus is (he's one of my favorite tooth-and-claw kaiju), he's rather close (design-wise) to Zilla, and out of the two, I'd rather have Zilla. Zilla can burrow, leap real far, has a breath weapon similar to Angilas' in G:DAMM and G:STE, and is really fast, not to mention the whole "American Godzilla" thing. All Gorosaurus really has going for him is his kangaroo kick. He's just not made for a game like this.
D.D.R.U.S.
03-30-2007, 11:31 PM
Don't just say kangaroo kick because someone can easily say all Baragon has for him is a flame thrower and burrowing or Jet Jaguar's shrinking and growing oh yeah his flash light.
Imagine Gorosaurus playing like a high graphic Sauron from Primal Rage.
Brianzilla2004
03-31-2007, 12:26 AM
As cool as Gorosaurus is (he's one of my favorite tooth-and-claw kaiju), he's rather close (design-wise) to Zilla, and out of the two, I'd rather have Zilla. Zilla can burrow, leap real far, has a breath weapon similar to Angilas' in G:DAMM and G:STE, and is really fast, not to mention the whole "American Godzilla" thing. All Gorosaurus really has going for him is his kangaroo kick. He's just not made for a game like this.
Aside from speed and breath, everything you said about Zilla is true to Gorosaurus. Gorosaurus would undoubtedly have superior defensive capabilities.
Timothy2035
03-31-2007, 01:14 AM
How so? Zilla has front arms that are more mobile and useful. Zilla has strong legs, as you see it leap upon buildings and move quickly. Its back has those protective ridges. Zilla is better than Goro.
Kangaroo kick works best out in the open. Doing that in a city may prove to be off target or cumbersome. I agree with TitanoGoji, Goro just isn't for this type of game. Well maybe just for the stage on Monster Island. :p
D.D.R.U.S.
03-31-2007, 01:47 AM
People you all need to play Primal Rage again then incorporate 3D powered high graphic consoles and technology. If you see how Sauron and Diablo play you'll be like "Whoa there is more to a short armed Tyrannosaurus than meets the imagination." Gorosaurus could work just as well as Baragon and Anguirus and Titanosaurus. Not all animals or beast need hands to live, look at King Ghidorah, Anguirus, and Larva Mothra for that matter.
Timothy2035
03-31-2007, 01:51 AM
I have played that Primal Rage before. I know what you are getting at. :up: Though Zilla compares and surpasses Goro with abilities that allow it be be more evasive and also can be more offensive.
I really, really hope they decide to put Monster X into the game. Even if he can't transform into Kaizer Ghidorah, I still want to have MX. If they put him in there, I'll be as happy as a lark. :)
But I hope they do include a "typical" version of Godzilla as well, instead of just G2K, like G90s, for instance--he's my favorite.
Daneasaur
03-31-2007, 02:31 AM
Well, I voted.
Biollante MUST be in.
I'll be really bummed if monster X isn't in though.
The only thing veagly resembling a Bagan incarnation....
TitanoGoji
03-31-2007, 02:55 AM
Though Zilla compares and surpasses Goro with abilities that allow it be be more evasive and also can be more offensive.
Exactly. And besides, imagine you're not a Godzilla fan and aren't all that familiar with the series. Who would you rather play as: an apparently normal dinosaur, or the (in)famous American Godzilla? Gorosaurus isn't one of the more famous Toho beasts, whereas Zilla is quite well-known.
KG Kaiju
03-31-2007, 03:35 AM
This is a great idea, and something that we are considering in an official capacity.
Let me reassure everyone that the "plus" sign in "16+" is not a cop-out. We are planning to have significantly more than 16 monsters in the game, but since we don't have the final ones determined yet, we'll have to stick with "16+" (until we've got the final monster roster locked down).
So vote away and please post as many useful comments as you can!
cheers,
-herk
If all of the kaiju can be included, that would truly be awesome! I am glad to hear that there are a lot more than 16 monsters planned. Please include as many as possible. I want this Godzilla game to be so monster-involved that even non-Godzilla fans will want it. Also, I would appreciate it if you could include a comp vs comp mode so that a gamer could just watch the kaiju fight if he/she wanted to. I think that it would be :cool: if that was an option. It would be like watching a CGI kaiju battle! :cool: :cool: :cool: If possible, can a tournament mode (like NCAA basketball's format) also be included? Not to be too much of a bother, but can there also be an option to turn off the military and power-ups? PLMK. Thanks.
Godzilla Unleashed has the potential to draw more people to the Godzilla fandom. I speak from experience when I say this because G:STE introduced me to Godzilla. Imagine what a game 2X better would do for others that haven't entered the fandom yet! :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:
D.D.R.U.S.
03-31-2007, 11:54 AM
Look at all of you, Bashing the original monsters because they weren't originally designed by Toho but he you all are taking some un-Toho born monster instead of a natural born Toho monster. Hyp-O-Critical.
DeaconRien
03-31-2007, 02:14 PM
I would really like to hear about Atari ideas or possibilities about adding in Showa King Kong
While recently I have come to except that his chances are very slim due to possible rights issues I am hoping against hope their might be a chance to get him into the game.
Some of us King Kong fans want to give Godzilla a second chance to win really bad :).
DinoHunter
03-31-2007, 07:03 PM
Voted: Biollante, Titanosaurus, Zilla.
Dennis Mace
03-31-2007, 07:06 PM
I voted for Manda (Awesome to have a playable Japanese Dragon), Zilla (especially the Animated series version), and Alternate Godzilla Incarnation (I like Matt Frank's "Neo-Godzilla").
My list of favorite Daikaiju:
1. Neo-Godzilla (Matt Frank's design, similar to my own)
2. Godzilla (original Gojira)
3. Zilla (American Godzilla, especially from the Animated series)
4. Godzilla 2000
5. Manda (Japanese Dragon, Final Wars version)
6. Rodan (original, & Final Wars version)
7. Jet Jaguar
8. Baby Godzilla (from G vs Destroyer, Hesei series)
9. Mecha-Zilla (from the Animated Series)
10. Kiryu/Mecha-Godzilla 3
11. Gappa
I'd love to see all these monsters in Godzilla Unleashed, I'll probably get a Wii to play the game when Autumn rolls around...
Naruto65
03-31-2007, 07:15 PM
what r u talking about mellerson?
rwr32783
03-31-2007, 08:44 PM
they should just solve the issue by including all of toho's kaiju as well as Gamera, Goas, and King Kong.
There I like that idea alot
Meleefan12
03-31-2007, 08:51 PM
It would involve getting permission from other creator's to use their monsters that they created in Godzilla Unleashed & Toho probably doesn't want to do that. Look at the Cutting Room on Toho Kingdom and look at movies that were cut for King Kong.
Naruto65
03-31-2007, 08:55 PM
they should just solve the issue by including all of toho's kaiju as well as Gamera, Goas, and King Kong.
There I like that idea alot
King Kong and Gamera Monsters are owned by different companies, not by Toho. Pipeworks and Atari are not about to pay extra rights. It wouldn't be a Godzilla game, if these monsters were included.
rwr32783
03-31-2007, 10:38 PM
I know, I was being facetious.
It would be cool if Toho went to all that trouble though.
KG Kaiju
03-31-2007, 11:12 PM
Welcome to the forum, rwr32783. :D :D :D Enjoy your stay! :up:
@ Naruto: I think that DD was referring to all of those that voted for Zilla, though Toho did approve of the use of Godzilla's name in conjunction with the effort put forth by Rolland and Emmerich.
D.D.R.U.S.
04-01-2007, 12:47 AM
I didn't realize how many spelling and grammar errors were in that one heh, What I meant was, How can all of you bash the crap out of the two original monsters yet most of you will throw away a Natrual Born Toho Kaiju namely Gorosaurus, for a Roland Emmerich monster namely GINO or Zilla if you will. Plus I can easily picture Zilla and Gorosaurus fighting in completely different ways. Zilla is much more akin to Talon from Primal Rage while Gorosaurus is much easily comparable to Sauron and Diablo.
pikmintaro
04-01-2007, 12:58 AM
I voted for Biolantte Monster X and Zilla
D.D.R.U.S.
04-01-2007, 12:04 PM
If any of you have played Primal Rage then you'll understand how far you can go with a T-Rex character.
Gorosaurus would fight just like Sauron and Diablo minus the flames.
Sauron's moves included: Neck Throw, Cranium Crasher which is like Ryu's Shoryuuken, Earthquake, Various light-heavy-ferocious bite attacks, Claw attacks with the feet, a couple tail whips, and a Lunge that left him over the enemy which he proceeded to rip into the enemy with his maw and tear pieces out, and finally a Sonic roar blast.
Diablo's moves included: A running head butt, slightly different bite attacks, A leaping Bone Crusher where he jumps halfway across the screen lands on the opponent and proceeds to stomp him flat multible times, the rest of his moves are fire based.
I can easily see Gorosaurus using the Bone Crusher move and the Cranium Crasher which is like the Shoryuuken but instead of the hands due to Goro having small but powerful hands, he'll use his enormous head. Gorosaurus wont grapple with his hands which isn't unlike a few already existing kaiju. He'll use his mouth to neutralize you in place by grabbing and squeezing the kaju's throat. I can also see him using similar moves that other monsters seem to have for instance Godzilla's ramming head charge and Rodan's bicycle kick. Gorosaurus can also be the only monster in the game besides Godzilla to have more than 4 different tail attacks. Gorosaurus's ranged weapon doesn't have to be a beam or a projectile but it can be an earthquake like Sauron's move. You'll hold down the range button then with his very powerful legs he can stomp up an earthquake which will go farther the longer the charge but it wont be very powerful but it stuns and is always an automatic knock down.
Gorosaurus can work very well in a fighting game to me.
AnguirusFan
04-01-2007, 07:49 PM
I voted Biollante, Titanosaurus, and Zilla. However, if Gorosaurus was a choice, I would have chosen him/her instead of Zilla.
Godzillarulzall
04-01-2007, 09:16 PM
I voted Biollante Varan And Battra Because................ well ................................... Thier awsome
DeaconRien
04-02-2007, 12:54 AM
King Kong and Gamera Monsters are owned by different companies, not by Toho. Pipeworks and Atari are not about to pay extra rights. It wouldn't be a Godzilla game, if these monsters were included.
Why would they not? Don't you think that alot more people would buy the game if they saw their favorite monsters involved.
I know King Kong has a huge fan following so by using Showa King Kong you would cash in on those fans.
Gamera also has a big fan following (though not as big as Kongs) and would truely make the game complete with all the greatest monsters ever being involved.
Also Gamera is distributed by Toho which should make it alot easier for atari to add him to the game.
The Showa King Kong really is a must I feel cause he is one of the few monsters to have defeated Godzilla and he has never been defeated on screen by another monster.
Also both Gamera and King Kong are apart of the Godzilla universe cause they were both distributed by Toho.
Believe me, you add these two legends in the game and you got yourself a game that will break records at the game stores.
Besides can you even imagine having Godzilla vs. King Kong vs. Gamera in a three way fight on WII
Can you? :)
O and here is a clip from Kong King vs. Godzilla which I found on you tube,, enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Xuic--2bg&mode=related&search=
Naruto65
04-02-2007, 01:15 AM
Why would they not? Don't you think that alot more people would buy the game if they saw their favorite monsters involved.
Indeed, but atari and pipeworks are not going to pay the extra money for those monsters.
I know King Kong has a huge fan following so by using Showa King Kong you would cash in on those fans.
Still, Toho had to recieve rights from Universal. Atari and Pipeworks still have to pay for the extra rights.
Gamera also has a big fan following (though not as big as Kongs) and would truely make the game complete with all the greatest monsters ever being involved.Also Gamera is distributed by Toho which should make it alot easier for atari to add him to the game.
It would be interesting to see the two duke it out. However it's not possible. Toho does not own the rights for Gamera in any way, shape or form. Gamera and the monsters in that universe are owned by an entirely different company.
Also both Gamera and King Kong are apart of the Godzilla universe cause they were both distributed by Toho.
Again your wrong, They are both owned by two different companies!
Believe me, you add these two legends in the game and you got yourself a game that will break records at the game stores.
Too bad it won't happen.
Besides can you even imagine having Godzilla vs. King Kong vs. Gamera in a three way fight on WII, can you?
No.
Naruto
DeaconRien
04-02-2007, 01:55 AM
Again your wrong, They are both owned by two different companies!
Naruto
No I am right, They were both distrubuted by Toho, I did not say they were owned by them. You can go to TohoKingdom and look under the distribution of Gamera and Kong if you do not believe me, its there trust me.
If Atari really wants Kong and Gamera in it dont you think Toho would again get the distribution rights for them.
Also who is too say what Atari wont do. You can do anything as long as the will is there to succeed.
All I am saying is I truely believe it would be worth it in this case.
gvamp
04-02-2007, 02:02 AM
Just because something is disturbted by someone doesn't mean they own the rights to it. That's two completly diffrent things.
I doubt Toho would approve a game with Gamera in it anyway and King Kong's licensing fees are way to much money, money I doubt Atari or Pipeworks have.
KG Kaiju
04-02-2007, 05:00 AM
It would be interesting to see the two duke it out. However it's not possible. Toho does not own the rights for Gamera in any way, shape or form. Gamera and the monsters in that universe are owned by an entirely different company.
True, King Kong is owned by Universal and Gamera is owned by Kadokawa.
Naruto65
04-02-2007, 07:59 AM
No I am right, They were both distrubuted by Toho, I did not say they were owned by them. You can go to TohoKingdom and look under the distribution of Gamera and Kong if you do not believe me, its there trust me.
If Atari really wants Kong and Gamera in it dont you think Toho would againget the distribution rights for them.
Like gvamp said, Just because something is disturbted by someone doesn't mean they own the rights to it. That's two completly diffrent things.
I doubt Toho would approve a game with Gamera in it anyway and King Kong's licensing fees are way to much money, money I doubt Atari or Pipeworks have.
Indeed.
Naruto
Chaos Wielder
04-02-2007, 12:49 PM
Kumonga, Hedorah and Titanosaurus.
I did not vote for Biollante simply due to how she almost appeared in STE. I should think it foolish not to include her at this point; consider, as others have pointed out, that she is in the DS game. This seems a clear demonstration that rights are had in some degree.
Edit:
It is fantastic news to hear that "16+" might not necessarily refer to just 17 monsters.
Timothy2035
04-02-2007, 01:07 PM
thanks for your comments and your vote. :):up:
Gorjirus
04-02-2007, 06:09 PM
Just because something is disturbted by someone doesn't mean they own the rights to it. That's two completly diffrent things.
I doubt Toho would approve a game with Gamera in it anyway and King Kong's licensing fees are way to much money, money I doubt Atari or Pipeworks have.
Red Ronin would be alot cheaper.
Naruto65
04-02-2007, 06:29 PM
That's not even a Character in the G Universe.
Timothy2035
04-02-2007, 06:46 PM
well according to this, there is some tie-in to the G Universe (comics wise), but its Wiki afterall.
Red Ronin is a gigantic robotic construct (a mecha) in the Marvel Comics universe. Originally created by writer Doug Moench and artist Herb Trimpe as a foil for Godzilla, the robot went on to be a menace to other Marvel characters such as the Avengers and Wolverine.
...
After an initial attempt to control the robot failed, Rob succeeded in piloting Red Ronin into battle with Godzilla, in an attempt to drive the beast off. Rob wished to prevent the radioactive creature from being harmed and his attempts to ward the monster off were designed to actually preserve his life. He succeeded in doing so and it was discovered that Ronin had been imprinted with Rob's brain patterns, making the robot useless without him to pilot it.
Rob used Ronin a few more times, aiding Godzilla in battles against creatures such as Yetrigar, Krollar, Rhian, and Triax. During one such battle, Rhian decapitated Ronin, leaving the robot inactive.
SOURCE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Ronin)
Super Hedorah X
04-02-2007, 06:59 PM
I prefer red king over red ronin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_King_(ultraman)
D.D.R.U.S.
04-02-2007, 11:01 PM
I know everybody is in complete awe in my idea of Gorosaurus would work in a game....*sigh* it feels good.
Timothy2035
04-02-2007, 11:27 PM
Well DD, Goro in a game, don't you think he will look a bit "Showa"? Do you think Goro would look good as a digital polygon build?
I'm curious about something. at this point, 17 of you voted for Monster X, but only 9 voted for Kaiser Ghidorah. Does that mean that many of you would be cool with seeing MX in the game without KG?
another question for those of you who voted for Mechagodzilla 75: if you've got Kiryu confirmed for the game, would you rather see other versions of Mechagodzilla added or a completely different monster?
megamonk4
04-03-2007, 10:27 AM
It would be cool to have both Kaiser Ghidorah and Monster X as well since it was the last monster godzilla battled in final wars.
On your other question about more versions of mechagodzilla. In my opinion, it depends if other godzilla versions will be in the game. In my opinion, you can't have one without the other.
D.D.R.U.S.
04-03-2007, 10:32 AM
People seem to have this idea that Kaiser Ghidorah is a seperate monster from Monster X. I know they both have their own Trademark symbol but I would consider them one. All Monster X did was turn Super Saiyan. Saying no Kaiser Ghidorah is like saying no Super Saiyan Goku in a game where Goku is playable. I don't even know why Kaiser Ghidorah's votes aren't counted with those of Monster X, they should be.
For your MechaGodzilla question, I think most people will say both but then again MechaGodzilla '74 and Kiryu are completely different, it's nearly like comparing M.O.U.G.E.R.A. with SuperMechaGodzilla.
Timothy2035
04-03-2007, 11:08 AM
another question for those of you who voted for Mechagodzilla 75: if you've got Kiryu confirmed for the game, would you rather see other versions of Mechagodzilla added or a completely different monster?
Well that is a hard one herk...
MechaGodzilla 75 versus another monster, I suppose it depends on the monster. If its a monster like Varan, Zilla, Hedorah or Titanosaurus, then I would go with "another monster".
Cookson
04-03-2007, 12:50 PM
I signed up on the Atari forums so I could get say something to Herk.
Getting rid of Kaiser Ghidorah(if he was planned already) just because only "9", now 11, voted for him is ridiculous. There's is a much bigger fan community out there then just the one on this board that would LOVE to have Kaiser Ghidorah in the game, just because he was Godzillas last monster he ever will battle in a movie again(for now anyway).
So please don't get rid of Kaiser Ghidorah, just because of this poll. If he was planned to be in the game, then keep it like that.
On the question about Mechagodzilla'75 and Kiryu.....I think I would rather have a different monster, only if you can't have them both and add monsters in there.
Just remember Herk/Atari/Pipework....there's a GIGANTIC roster of Toho monsters, that we would love to have in the game, rather then your "original monster".....
Timothy2035
04-03-2007, 01:05 PM
Welcome to Atari Cookson.
I have informed some other boards about the feedback so the fandom is getting information. Responses can be ascertained based on the replies.
Though the Producer may not have the full time to visit many fan sites, your response here is reaching Atari firsthand.
chris55
04-03-2007, 01:10 PM
I'm curious about something. at this point, 17 of you voted for Monster X, but only 9 voted for Kaiser Ghidorah. Does that mean that many of you would be cool with seeing MX in the game without KG?
another question for those of you who voted for Mechagodzilla 75: if you've got Kiryu confirmed for the game, would you rather see other versions of Mechagodzilla added or a completely different monster?
I think getting "hopeful inclusions" from other boards would help as well.
Perhaps you could join other boards like monster zero and tohokingdom?
Cookson
04-03-2007, 01:11 PM
Hey, glad to be of some help.
I'll say this simply, don't take Kaiser Ghidorah out, if he was already planned to be in the game. MANY people would love for the kaiju to be in the game.
With that said MX and Kaiser Ghidorah almost are the same monsters, but they really arn't. It would be awesome to have them BOTH in the game.
Timothy2035
04-03-2007, 01:14 PM
I think getting "hopeful inclusions" from other boards would help as well.
Perhaps you could join other boards like monster zero and tohokingdom?
There is also Kaijuphile, Kaiju galaxy, Tohogate and others...
Gorjirus
04-03-2007, 01:22 PM
I would rather have Monster X than Kaiser Ghidorah.
And as for MG 75, I would take him, though I would much rather have Red Ronin. (And yes, he started as a Marvel Godzilla mecha!)
ACtually, I think it would be awesome if any of the non-movie kaiju were included. Red Ronin, Cybersaur, Bagorah, Burtannus, Stranger (which would be awesome), All-Terraintula, Red Ronin, Fire Bird, Collosus of Atlantis, Sphinx (which is what I thought of when I first saw Firelion), though Red Ronin would be my favorite.
Or even maybe some of the different versions of Godzilla: Marvel, Dark Horse, Hanna Barbara.
Beximus
04-03-2007, 02:49 PM
im glad to see hedorah has a good score but Zilla!? that was unexpected. i guess the developers could find enough moves to give him. if he gets accepted
gforever
04-03-2007, 02:52 PM
I feel Monster X is more desired over Kaiser Ghidorah because he is more of a fighter, & is fast too. Kaiser Ghidorah on the other hand is similar to King Ghidorah but seems to be more powerful and less mobile due to his weight. Now of course I'd like to see both in the game but if I have to choose from 1, then Monster X wins. Kaiser Ghidorah would serve as a great boss monster & a secret character to be unlocked to be played.
As for the different Mecha-Godzillas, I would love to see different versions as well but if its a choice from another different monster and MG'75 or MG'93, I might have to go w/ the another monster. If it's a choice between MG'75 & MG'93, I will go w/ MG75 this time because we can play MG'93 on the previous release. But Red Ronin, no thanks. I prefer characters from the G-movies.
Should there be another poll for the different incarnations of monsters? Such as:
Rodan'60s, Fire Rodan, & GFW Rodan?
Mothra'64, Mothra'92, Mothra Leo, Aqua Mothra, Rainbow Mothra, Light Speed Mothra, Eternal Armored Mothra, Mothra, Mothra'02, Mothra'04
G'54, G'62, G'64, G'74, Heisei G, Burning Godzilla, GMK Goji, Tokyo SOS Goji, GFW Goji?
MG'74, MG'75, MG'93, Super MG, Kiryu'03, Kiryu'04
Also I'm just curious on Atari's fascination of Godzilla 2000. I'm not sure if this was mentioned before but I prefer Godzilla w/ his blue nuclear energy and classic'er' fins.
Zilla & Hedorah would be great in this game! I'm hoping Biollante, Titanosaurus, & Battra make it as well!
neil1988
04-03-2007, 03:15 PM
i voted for
1.Kumonga
2.smog monster
3.Titanosaurus
i wood like to see the sea monster :heart: .
gvamp
04-03-2007, 03:20 PM
I'm curious about something. at this point, 17 of you voted for Monster X, but only 9 voted for Kaiser Ghidorah. Does that mean that many of you would be cool with seeing MX in the game without KG?
another question for those of you who voted for Mechagodzilla 75: if you've got Kiryu confirmed for the game, would you rather see other versions of Mechagodzilla added or a completely different monster?
Why not try to get as many Toho monsters in as possible. But yeah I would like Monster X moreso than Kaiser because I didn't care for Kaiser's design it just didn't work well for me.
Gigan X3
04-03-2007, 03:30 PM
I rather have Monster X than Keizer Ghidorah.
Now about the Mecha Problem, if i were to choose between Zilla and Mecha'75 I'll choose without a doubt Zilla.
D.D.R.U.S.
04-03-2007, 03:38 PM
I rather have Monster X than Keizer Ghidorah.
Now about the Mecha Problem, if i were to choose between Zilla and Mecha'75 I'll choose without a doubt Zilla.
That makes no sense. That's like saying I don't want Imago Mothra I only want Larva Mothra.
I also take that your pretty happy with the originals.
R0adie
04-03-2007, 04:22 PM
I came here to vote for Battra Larva and chew Bubble Gum... and I'm all outta Bubble Gum!
Naruto65
04-03-2007, 04:23 PM
another question for those of you who voted for Mechagodzilla 75: if you've got Kiryu confirmed for the game, would you rather see other versions of Mechagodzilla added or a completely different monster?
Hayy, all thre mecha godzilla are unique i say include all three of them!
Timothy2035
04-03-2007, 04:43 PM
I came here to vote for Battra Larva and chew Bubble Gum... and I'm all outta Bubble Gum!
well chew paper if you have a note paper next to you. :haha: Just joking. Thanks for your vote.
dbzmaster28
04-03-2007, 05:00 PM
Oh man I cant wait!!!!!!!!!!:cry:
Timothy2035
04-03-2007, 05:04 PM
Oh man I cant wait!!!!!!!!!!:cry:
Welcome and thanks for your participation.
Would you please also indicate who you voted for and do you have any particular comment regarding this post here...:)
I'm curious about something. at this point, 17 of you voted for Monster X, but only 9 voted for Kaiser Ghidorah. Does that mean that many of you would be cool with seeing MX in the game without KG?
another question for those of you who voted for Mechagodzilla 75: if you've got Kiryu confirmed for the game, would you rather see other versions of Mechagodzilla added or a completely different monster?
dbzmaster28
04-03-2007, 05:10 PM
Welcome and thanks for your participation.
Would you please also indicate who you voted for and do you have any particular comment regarding this post here...:)
Monster X would be a very good addition to the game.
Thats who I voted for also Biollante and Titanosaurus.
Yes I would want Monster X in the game and it would be cool to have
Kaiser Ghidorah in the game too(even though he is not my favorite).
Just to boost up the number of monsters you would be able to play as.
:)
Timothy2035
04-03-2007, 05:13 PM
:respect: Thank you for your comments. :up:
I'm curious about something. at this point, 17 of you voted for Monster X, but only 9 voted for Kaiser Ghidorah. Does that mean that many of you would be cool with seeing MX in the game without KG?
another question for those of you who voted for Mechagodzilla 75: if you've got Kiryu confirmed for the game, would you rather see other versions of Mechagodzilla added or a completely different monster?
I would prefer Monster X over Kaizer Ghidorah. Monster X is a far cooler kaiju in general, IMO, and also a better character for the game as far as fighting goes. Sure, it'd be awesome if you could transform from MX to Kaizer like Mothra does from larva to imago, but if that can't be done, I say fine, as long as it's MX that ends up in the game. Just please, please put him in there with all his GFW-glory.:atari:
As for Mechagodzilla, well, it's already confirmed that we're getting Kiryu (Mechagodzilla "3"), so IF it came down to putting MG'74 in there or another TOHO KAIJU (not "original") I say, fine, ok, go ahead. As long as we have ONE Mechagodzilla.:D But honestly I'd love to have ALL three MGs in there--Showa, Heisei and Shinsei.
But whatever happens, just just be sure to call MG3 by his real name: "Kiryu Mechagodzilla.";)
By the way, what are the chances of Godzilla 90s returning? He's by far the most popular incarnation of the Big G, and it just wouldn't seem "complete" without an "original/traditional" Godzilla-design.
TitanoGoji
04-03-2007, 05:28 PM
I'm curious about something. at this point, 17 of you voted for Monster X, but only 9 voted for Kaiser Ghidorah. Does that mean that many of you would be cool with seeing MX in the game without KG?
I'd definitely be cool with it. As powerful as he is, Kaiser Ghidorah isn't one of the better-looking Ghidorahs.
another question for those of you who voted for Mechagodzilla 75: if you've got Kiryu confirmed for the game, would you rather see other versions of Mechagodzilla added or a completely different monster?
While there are other monsters I'd love to see in the game before MG75, I'd also love to have him in the game. That way we get all three Mechagodzillas together (assuming Mechagodzilla 2 was gonna be in it), and a three-way battle between them would be awesome.
dbzmaster28
04-03-2007, 05:32 PM
Yeah I would LOVE for Godzilla X to be in too.
He looks super cool and won of my favorite Godzilla monsters(and i like space Godzilla but I know he should be in).
I don't know why but I kinda want Zilla (American Godzilla)in a little just
to see what he looks like.
Timothy2035
04-03-2007, 05:37 PM
I don't know why but I kinda want Zilla (American Godzilla)in a little just
to see what he looks like.
There are others too that want to see Zilla in the game. Here is a thread done here that shows what some points were. http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=573606
I also stickied it for a quick find.
Trenton_Man
04-03-2007, 05:55 PM
Zilla, Monster X, and Battra.
Because Battra's larval form isn't weak at all(able to stand up to Godzilla all on his own, and end the fight in a draw), and offers bonuses the imago form does not(extra beams, defense), it'd be cool to see him able to switch between forms, and hence, switch battle strategies.
Zilla seems a given, and an even further extreme to Baragon as he can be much much faster but then much weaker as well.
Monster X, as you have seen in post after post, is more popular than Kaiser Ghidorah and if you have to choose only one of them, you are better left to stick to Monster X.
And there's only so many ways you can make Ghidorah kaiju different from one another(as is shown with MKG and KG from previous games).
On that note, it would be great to see Mecha-G '75 and '93 in this game.. and if you have three Mecha-G's, then adding a third Godzilla could be in order(to add to Godzilla 90's and 2000). If that is the case, I would put my vote for Godzilla GMK, as he is the most diverse of the other members with differences unique to him(a possessed, undead monster, for one, pure white eyes... his energy beam color could be white to contrast 90's blue and 2000's red/orange.), and his difference in combat would be even more brutal and savage than any of the previous Godzillas(he is a full-out villain in his movie, after all).
and that's my two cents :D
EddaRoboE
04-03-2007, 06:04 PM
I voted for MG75, and I would love to have him included. =_= But it appears people are willing to scrap him (Yet Again). I think its kind of odd that the very first incarnation of MechaGodzilla (and possibly the most heartless and cruel) hasn't been included in the series thus far. :haha: :cry:
Seriously, his fighting style would be completley different than the other two MechaGodzillas! Kiryu is a melle brawler, while MG93 is a walking gun but a big slocuh in melle combat. The Showa MechaGodzilla had massive firepower, and he was no slouch in melle combat, having easily defeated King Ceasar. Not to mention unlike MG93, it had a personality.
Still, I really hope he shows up. I can always hope...=_= (pls X_x)
Trenton_Man
04-03-2007, 06:11 PM
While I'm at it, I'm gonna give a shout-out to Matt Frank, an exceptional kaiju fan and artist.
http://godzillasamurai.deviantart.com/
http://curlyhairedkaiju.deviantart.com/
Both links belong to the same artist.
I heavily recommend that Atari and company(or Produce Herk, anyone) take a gander at this man's art and ideas. They should also seriously consider hiring him up, if not for this game, then for the next game down the line.
tototo
04-03-2007, 06:21 PM
maybe it would be better to have kaiser ghidorah instead of king ghidora. they are nearly the same monster. and kaiser ghidorah is the most recent incarnation of him
Trenton_Man
04-03-2007, 06:37 PM
But when you think of Ghidorah, you think of the King, not the Kaiser. :P
obeida
04-03-2007, 06:40 PM
WHERE IS KING KONG!
Naruto65
04-03-2007, 06:50 PM
Kaiser Ghidorah isn't one of the better-looking Ghidorahs.
I think a lot of people would disagree with that statement.
...chew Bubble Gum... and I'm all outta Bubble Gum!
Glad to see we got us a Duke Nukem fan. That game rocked.
But when you think of Ghidorah, you think of the King, not the Kaiser. :P
Holy freaking crap, welcome back Trenton_Man! It's been forever.
Also looks like Biollante, Zilla are in good standings, Hedorah and Titanosaurus are pretty close. I think this is the most votes we have ever had in our community.
Naruto
majestic_insect
04-03-2007, 06:53 PM
I voted for Biollante, Battra, and Monster X.
I seriously think we need another Mothra-like kaiju. There two Ghidorah's for heaven sake, 2 mechagodzilla's, more than one Goji, why not more than one Mothra? All the most popular kaiju get to versions of themselves, why not Mothra? Heck now there are two versions of Gigan.
KaiserDestroyer
04-03-2007, 06:55 PM
What I think would be a good idea for Monster X, and possibly Kaiser Ghidorah, would be have them as the same character, ala Mothra.
Have Monster X be transformable through a rage pick-up or by pressing L+R (but don't make him heal like Mohtra). As for Kaiser Ghidorah as a fighter, I think his beam should take twice as long to charge up as the others, but it diminishes twice as slow. Then, instead of doing direct damage, it should lift the opponent and allow you to smash them into the ground, buildings or just chuck them around to inflict damage.
I think that would make him more unique, and give him some depth in tactical fighting.
Naruto65
04-03-2007, 06:55 PM
I was just looking at who voted for who and I saw who Mr. Strange voted for. could it be a character spoiler......
Mr. Strange voted for:
Mecha-Godzilla 74
Biollante
Varan
Varan..... Made my mouth drop. Take this as a rumor.
Naruto
Trenton_Man
04-03-2007, 07:17 PM
I don't want Varan, honestly. There is nothing special about him and there are many other kaiju they could/should pick over him.
Naruto65
04-03-2007, 07:20 PM
Herk voted for:
Biollante
Monster X
Hedorah
Naruto
Trenton_Man
04-03-2007, 07:29 PM
cool; I don't think anyone has any qualms with those three.
Beximus
04-03-2007, 07:29 PM
oh cool! thats who i voted for too!
Titanozilla
04-03-2007, 07:29 PM
My votes were cast for Titanosaurus, King Caesar, and Zilla. Mostly, I prefer melee fighters.
To herk's questions;
1. Monster X. He should be able to transform into Kaiser Ghidora once ceratin requirements are met. Possibly when he enters "Rage Mode" (assuming you're still using that).
2. Mecha-Godzilla '75. I wouldn't want him IF other monsters get shafted for him. We already have Kiryu. He's good enough.
Or what about making him, Kaiser Ghidora, and another Godzilla as secret bonus characters? Each one could be automatically unlocked after a pre-set amount of play time.
Orga777
04-03-2007, 07:35 PM
That makes no sense. That's like saying I don't want Imago Mothra I only want Larva Mothra.
I also take that your pretty happy with the originals.
The thing is... Kaiser Ghidorah is just way too powerful in the movie. You can only nerf it so much before it finally gets to the point of it being a completly diffrent kaiju.
As for Showa MG... I am not that huge of a fan and I would rather have some other monster in the game that is more obscure, like Kamacuras for instance. But I want a new Goji. GMK Goji to be specific.
Super Hedorah X
04-03-2007, 07:40 PM
I voted
1.Hedorah
2.Battra
3.Titenosuarus
ShiningDarkLord
04-03-2007, 07:44 PM
WHERE IS KING KONG!
Kong isn't owned by Toho, which means it isn't possible for him to be added, which is why he's not an available choice.
This vote is only for characters who can actually be included in Unleashed.
Monster Master
04-03-2007, 08:33 PM
It has become clear that if given the choice between "new original made up creations" and classic established Toho movie monsters, then real fans want the Toho movie stars in the game.
So much so that fans even request multiple versions of the same monster to be included. Such as Godzilla, MechaGodzilla, Ghidorah, Mothra, Gigan.
However Herk asks us would we prefer such clones or different monsters to fill up the valuable slots that fill out the games roster? Many are answering they want different type choices available. This makes sense in a fighting game so that different combat styles can be used for variety and re playability.
Monster X is unique. A good brawler with dangerous beam weapons. The main problem with Kaiser Ghidorah is that we already have Mecha Ghidorah and Classic King Ghidorah. In fact the best version was Grand King Ghidorah from Mothra 3 !! Again with the Mecha Godzilla's we know that 1974-75 was distinct in it's style and abilities. But we would choose to cut some versions if we had to in favor of guys we have yet to see like Biollante, Hedorah, Titanosaurus, etc.
It has been suggested before, but let us return to a familiar solution: Skins. Many Fighter games do this, such as Soul Calibur and Dead or Alive, to name but a few. Look at Marvel Ultimate Alliance as one example of how other fighting games with licensed characters satisfy their fans. This game also has about twenty heros playable. Each character (Such as Spider Man) has FOUR different costumes available. We start with only one, and must complete different missions objectives to unlock the others! Also note that each skin has slightly different attack - defence - speed - weapons - resistance - weakness, while the button moves are basically the same. Could we not also do this for Godzilla? This would let fans have their way, and toggle between various versions of Godzilla or Mothra for example, providing much desired variety and replayability.
If not, then instead of clones, give us distinct TOHO characters to choose from, so we at least can re create all the classic battles from the legendary movies.
Please ?
Naruto65
04-03-2007, 08:51 PM
Let me say this, I really want MG74 to be in this game. Sure we have Kiryu, but come on, lets make room for monsters that haven't made an appearence. They're not the same monsters, all three mechs are unique. I say include ALL 3 of them. MG74 deserves to rule the game screen!
Naruto
D.D.R.U.S.
04-03-2007, 08:54 PM
Even thou both mean the same thing. (Replied alittle too slow)
Biollante, SpaceGodzilla, and King Ceasar are who I really want to see in this game. Titanosaurus is another one especially with his goofy yet not so goofy roar. King Ceasar is on my list because I really like fur and the fact that he is officially the only mammalian kaiju in all of Toho, Baragon seems like another mammal but he's more like a cynodont. Godzilla seems like another synapsid but much more like a dinosaur. King Ceasar will look really unique in the game especially to non-Kaiju fans.
Gaigan508
04-03-2007, 09:46 PM
Hey im new
I voted Biollante,King Ceasar,and titanosauras but now I wished i vote for MG75
Timothy2035
04-03-2007, 09:49 PM
Hey im new
I voted Biollante,King Ceasar,and titanosauras but now I wished i vote for MG75
Hello and welcome. Thanks for your vote. Any comments about the comparison or fan requests of Monster X/ Kaiser Ghidorah and MechaGodzilla 74 versus the opportunity for a new character?
Is your screen name what you want it to be? If its spelled in a way different than what you want let me know and I will get it submitted for a change.
Marshal Thomas
04-03-2007, 10:18 PM
Does Hedorah have any chance of being in Godzilla: Unleashed? Thanks in advance?
Brianzilla2004
04-03-2007, 10:24 PM
Does Hedorah have any chance of being in Godzilla: Unleashed? Thanks in advance?
Yes.
Beximus
04-03-2007, 10:24 PM
im with you man, this being the 3rd godzilla game. it would be such a shame to not see a fan favorite like hedorah as a playable monster. they say that hedorah has a very vocal fanbase in japan.
i wonder what they'd say if he were included in the game.
Cookson
04-03-2007, 10:54 PM
So is this confirmation that Monster X will indeed be in the game?
Beximus
04-03-2007, 10:59 PM
no this is just an opinion poll
Trenton_Man
04-03-2007, 11:06 PM
if Producer Herk voted for Monster X, I have a feeling it's just one of those truths that simply haven't been officially announced yet. ;)
Dennis Mace
04-03-2007, 11:15 PM
:up:
While I'm at it, I'm gonna give a shout-out to Matt Frank, an exceptional kaiju fan and artist.
http://godzillasamurai.deviantart.com/
http://curlyhairedkaiju.deviantart.com/
Both links belong to the same artist.
I heavily recommend that Atari and company(or Produce Herk, anyone) take a gander at this man's art and ideas. They should also seriously consider hiring him up, if not for this game, then for the next game down the line.
I have to second this request, Matt Frank's Neo-Godzilla ROCKS!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/DennisMace/Godzilla_Neo_by_MattFrankGS.jpg
I also really like his version of Angirus. :up: BONUS! :up:
Beximus
04-03-2007, 11:16 PM
if Producer Herk voted for Monster X, I have a feeling it's just one of those truths that simply haven't been officially announced yet. ;)
lol well id love it if that were a clue since he voted hedorah and biollante as well.
we'll just have to wait and see i guess.
Naruto65
04-04-2007, 02:29 AM
Wow I'm shocked, Monster X and Hedorah had a big turn. Here's the current placing at 92 votes!
1. Biollante
2. Hedorah
3. Monster X
4. Zilla & Titanosaurus
5. Mecha-Godzilla 74
KaiserDestroyer
04-04-2007, 08:56 AM
The one other thing that I think could be done to use Kaiser Ghidorah, would be do him as Monster X's rage, but make him..."incomplete".
Like, Monster X picks up the rage power-up. When you use the rage move, he transforms into Kaiser Ghidorah for a limited time (30+ second?). But, make Ghidorah only have:
- his beams (possibly like I had said in my last post)
- only one "KICK" move (ex. B+down = Stomp)
- a three hit combo for his defeault moves (ex. A,A,A = bite, bite, tri-bite)
- one or two "FIERCE" moves (A+-> = Forward Lunge, A+\/ = Uppercut)
- his throws
- maybe one or two attacks that involve his tails (ex. X+direction)
- one victory pose, in case you kill the opponent as him
Then, just power him up compared to your average fighter, and he'd be a powerful rage move, and give him a small appearance in the game. Sure, he'd be "less of a fighter" then the others, but he's just used to smash the opponent into submission.
D.D.R.U.S.
04-04-2007, 12:18 PM
Or Kaiser Ghidorah and Mr.X can be completely different characters but when you pick Kaiser Ghidorah his intro is Monster X but he morphs into Kaiser Ghidorah. Monster X's rage can be a 15sec play as Kaiser Ghidorah.
If you guys are trying to see whether we want Kaiser Ghidorah over someone like Varan then you could choose Kaiser if it's over someone like SpaceGodzilla then choose SpaceG please.
BS Digital Q
04-04-2007, 03:41 PM
In terms of Monster X and Kaiser...I don't really care either way. I'm cool with the idea, whether Kaiser is excluded or included. Now, if I had to choose between one or the other, definitely Monster X.
Why? Well, aside from personal preference (my primary reason), Kaiser's overall design is far from aesthetically pleasing and his arsenal of attacks is somewhat limited. Now, that doesn't mean Pipeworks can't get clever with the character and pull some unique stuff, but overall I fail to see what Kaiser brings to table that a character like, say, Space Godzilla, doesn't. That, and Monster X's uniquely hyperactive form of combat is truly appropriate for a brawler like this game, and it would be nice for someone who really knows kung fu to have a place in it.
GigaBowserG
04-04-2007, 03:45 PM
@ Kerk:
Just to get this out of the way before my rant, would Super Godzilla be considered as an "alt Godzilla carnation"?
Just need that specified.
Now... just so I can get this out of the way...
I remember the first time I heard of this game going to feature two "new monsters never seen in the Toho universe". The first monsters that came to mind were:
Bagan v2.0 (http://tohokingdom.com/cutting_room/bagan.htm)
and
Dogolas (http://tohokingdom.com/cutting_room/dogolas.htm).
Who is Bagan? Who is Dogolas? The links answer it. And so will this: *ehem*
Bagan first appeared in the SNES game "Super Godzilla," as the game's final boss and the alien's trump card monster. The Bagan in the game was fused with BOTH Godzilla and King Ghidorah's cells, and was transferred from the Earth's super-ancient past to the present via time travel. Bagan first starts off in an egg-like shell casing, where it pulses with life as protrubences are easily seen throbbing with its heartbeat. The creature appears harmless at first, but then unleashes a massive attack on Tokyo with only several spheres. And when they impact, Tokyo is completely leveled. Eventually, Bagan hatches and faces off against Godzilla in HIS stronger, newer form -- Super Godzilla (just a side note, Space Godzilla's original design was actually taken from the Super Godzilla model from the game). Bagan and Super Godzilla square off in a climatic battle, where only the supreme superpower would win...
Later in Toho's time, Bagan is considered in for movies. One movie that came VERY close to production was pitting Bagan against Mothra. Unfortunately, that was scrapped, as was one against Godzilla.
Later again, a CD was released -- a Virtual Tour, if you will -- that featured Bagan's supposed suit for the movie(s). But since then, he has never appeared again...
Dogolas suffered a similar fate. He has never appeared in any movies, and his existance only lies within that Virtual Tour CD-ROM.
What I mean to get at... These two monsters could easily pull off into the roster of G:U, as they are technically "new" monsters 'never used in the Toho universe' (the Bagan suit was never used, though his "incarnate" was featured in a game, and Dogolas has been straight-down scrapped).
That was my first hope, that these two would make it. Dogolas could be similar to a mixture of Biollante and Space Godzilla, where it could use its tentacles to attack, and also have Psychic-powers (as it appears to levitate instead of walk, since its lack of legs). Bagan, too, could also appear in the game, and since THIS form of Bagan has never been used, his powers, speed, and defenses can all be adjusted so that he isn't an uber-monster like he was on Super Godzilla game.
Just thought I'd get that out of the way....
BS Digital Q
04-04-2007, 03:52 PM
The problem with both of the above is...they don't qualify as "new monsters never seen in the Toho universe." And even if they did, neither is particularly interesting or unique. Maybe Dogolas...but Bagan? No. Just no.
GigaBowserG
04-04-2007, 03:59 PM
The problem with both of the above is...they don't qualify as "new monsters never seen in the Toho universe." And even if they did, neither is particularly interesting or unique. Maybe Dogolas...but Bagan? No. Just no.
Just a thought.
With Bagan... he's never been featured in a movie, nor Dogolas. That, for me, is a monster "not seen in Toho's universe." Though, as you say, they aren't truly "never seen". Just "never seen in the Toho [movie] universe."
Dogolas is unique, possibly interesting to those who find his design overall creative. And Bagan is actually quite slimmed down from his Super Godzilla appearance, and looks much better overall (in my opinion). But I'm sure there are some who disagree with Bagan. I don't really see why some wouldn't want to see him. I thought he was a pretty...tough...monster that deserves the spotlight again. If Jet Jaguar could make it into the G:StE roster (and JJ isn't exactly the most well-known monster nowadays, but having a silently growing fan base), even the Larvae form of Mothra, then just about anyone can.
KaiserDestroyer
04-04-2007, 04:38 PM
Yeah, I'd definetly like Kaiser Ghidorah to be a seperate character, if the option was there. I still think he could be a very unique fighter, if handled right. As for there being "too many Ghidorah's", I'd be fine with losing Mecha-King Ghidorah for Kaiser.
As for MechaGodzilla 74, I'd love to have him in the game, but only if he replaced Hesei MechaGodzilla. All three MechaGodzilla's would be a little much, IMO. I'd welcome MechaG 74 (as he is probably still my personal favourite), but only if MechaG Hesei was axed in favour of him.
Naruto65
04-04-2007, 05:07 PM
Bagan is a registered Toho Monster. He doesn't count as original. Dogolas, also not original because the thought of its existance is there.
Naruto
D.D.R.U.S.
04-04-2007, 05:54 PM
I don't believe three MechaGodzilla's is alittle too much. All three of them are completely different entities not similar at all even all three of their roars, tails, and metal armor are different.
Kiryu: Most kaiju like of the three. AZC, Electrical Maser in his mouth, Electrical energy blade in left hand then later a drill left hand, Flexible yet robotic tail, Mobile Fingers, and he can't fly but he has really powerful jets that push him many miles per hour in one direction, Missles in Shoulders and Back that runout incredibly fast.
Super MechaGodzilla: Most robotic like of the three, Only one to make robotic noises when it moves, Mega Buster virtually as powerful as the Atomic Blast, NT-20 Diamond armor which reflects all beams but the heat gives him energy for the BIG Yellow Plasma Grenade, Missile in shoulders and hips that don't seem to run out or cause real damage, G-Crusher in wrist that cause considerable internal damage, Garuda, Flight.
MechaGodzilla: Most villianous looking of the three and he actually has bolts and screws which look cool, Laser Eye beams that are more powerful than MG2's mega buster and Godzilla's Atomic Blast, Missles from Fingers Knees Toes that never run out and are really power way more than Kiryu's and MG2's combined, Rocket feet opposed to Back rockets(MG2, Kiryu) or hip rockets(MG2), Very concentrated Mountain slicing beam from his stomach, flame thrower from mouth, Fingers are really stiff so he resorts to alot of karate chops and stabbing, The only MechaGodzilla to exhibit the robotic ability to completely turn a part of his body around ex. Head, Hands, Also the only Mech who actually has a energy Force Field, also the only Mech that runs on energy that doesn't seem to run out.
Beximus
04-04-2007, 06:37 PM
yeah Mecha 74 should replace the Mecha Godzilla of 93. He was always using Mecha 74's moves anyway it seemed. MG74 looks cooler also
KaiserDestroyer
04-04-2007, 06:39 PM
Well, if they revamped MechaGodzilla 2 (maybe give him the Garuda and make him Super MechaGodzilla) then I would be fine with the three of them. But, as it stands, MechaGodzilla 2 has almost all of his moves that seem to be based off MechaGodzilla 74's weapons.
lygerbomb
04-04-2007, 06:41 PM
I registered just to vote for King Ceasar. He was my second favorite monster as a kid behind Godzilla, so I really hope he makes it into the game!
R0adie
04-04-2007, 06:59 PM
I think MechaGodzilla 74/75 was born (or built?) to be in a game like this.Plus I love the Showa movies and this game definitely needs more Showa! As far as Monster X And Kaiser Ghidorah are concerned, Monster X is a very unique fighter and he would make a good addition to the roster... I'm kinda on the fence for Kaiser Ghidorah though. I mean the design is kinda cool,but that might give us three Ghidorahs.IMHO that's too many.
chris55
04-04-2007, 07:23 PM
the Bagan suit was never used,
What Bagan suit? He never got past script/concept art as far as I know
D.D.R.U.S.
04-04-2007, 07:59 PM
There is no fracken thing as too many kaiju. You all are acting like King Ghidorah and Kaiser Ghidorah are as identical as Godzilla'91 and Godzilla'92. Kaiser Ghidorah is a completely different monster from King Ghidorah. They barly have the same attacks. One flies and the other runs like a horse, one has explosive electrical beams while the other actually has Gravity Beams, ones is Golden and the other is Black and Gold .
http://www.xofacto.com/justin028/kai-sakai-ghid.jpg
http://www.kaijuhq.org/behindgfw13.jpg
http://www.kaijukits.com/library/yamakawa/godzilla_2005_kaiser_ghidorah/g05kg1.jpg
http://www.xofacto.com/justin027/GMKking001.jpg
Timothy2035
04-04-2007, 08:09 PM
I registered just to vote for King Ceasar. He was my second favorite monster as a kid behind Godzilla, so I really hope he makes it into the game!
Thank you for your vote and your comment.
D.D.R.U.S.
04-04-2007, 08:42 PM
Thank you Tim for your comment.
megamonk4
04-04-2007, 08:44 PM
There is no fracken thing as too many kaiju. You all are acting like King Ghidorah and Kaiser Ghidorah are as identical as Godzilla'91 and Godzilla'92. Kaiser Ghidorah is a completely different monster from King Ghidorah. They barly have the same attacks. One flies and the other runs like a horse, one has explosive electrical beams while the other actually has Gravity Beams, ones is Golden and the other is Black and Gold .
http://www.kaijukits.com/library/yamakawa/godzilla_2005_kaiser_ghidorah/g05kg1.jpg
Wait, Kaiser Ghidorah is a quadraped monster? This actually changes the way I veiw this monster. If it's in, it will be the first monster in the game to have 4 legs(thinking about powerful stomp, or kangaroo kick, etc.) as well as the 2 tails and 3 heads. This could be a pretty d*mn mean monster in the game. I'm thinking that it will really work well with the new fighting system with all the crazy attacks in different directions.
I say put him in as a individual definitely, but if not then I guess a power-up for Monster X.
(this would definitely be a hard battle for earth defenders as a last battle. Already barely won from Monster X, Then you get pwned by Kaiser Ghid. this game would be awsome.)
Timothy2035
04-04-2007, 09:17 PM
Hi there megamonk4, in your quoting of posts, please remove the image tags. They look like this in the white screen area of the quoted post "[IMG]". There is one at the front and also the end of the image. Remove those so the image doesn't display in the post reply. This helps on page loads for the forum.
On the post above, I removed the tags for this situation.
Thanks for your cooperation and enthusiasm in the game. :up:
R0adie
04-04-2007, 09:33 PM
I see your point DDRUS (nice pics by the way...I love Godzilla and Toho model kits!)
curlyhairkaiju
04-04-2007, 11:41 PM
:up:
I also really like his version of Angirus. :up: BONUS! :up:
You guys flatter me, really. That'd be a nice gig, tho' ;)
I threw in my vote for Biollante, Titano, and Monster X. Of course, like any other human being, I'd like to see them ALL in the game :P
Timothy2035
04-04-2007, 11:56 PM
Hi there curlyhairkaiju, in your quoting of posts, please remove the image tags. They look like this in the white screen area of the quoted post "[IMG]". There is one at the front and also the end of the image. Remove those so the image doesn't display in the post reply. This helps on page loads for the forum.
On the post above, I removed the tags for this situation.
Thanks for your cooperation and enthusiasm in the game.
curlyhairkaiju
04-05-2007, 12:05 AM
Hi there curlyhairkaiju, in your quoting of posts, please remove the image tags. They look like this in the white screen area of the quoted post "[IMG]". There is one at the front and also the end of the image. Remove those so the image doesn't display in the post reply. This helps on page loads for the forum.
On the post above, I removed the tags for this situation.
Thanks for your cooperation and enthusiasm in the game.
Sorry about that. New to the forums and all.
Thanks!
Timothy2035
04-05-2007, 12:19 AM
Sure I understand. Welcome to :atari:
AmazingKaiju
04-05-2007, 12:46 AM
nice to see you in the forums Matt!!
KaiserDestroyer
04-05-2007, 08:26 AM
Thank you DDRUS!
That's exactly why I think Kaiser Ghidorah should be in the game, because he's so drastically different from his other incarnations, and other monsters in the game, that he could be a very unique and powerful monster.
As I always say: Imagine using the Wiimote to actual give your opponents a beating with his Gravity Rays by slamming them into buildings and the ground. :cool:
Monster Master
04-05-2007, 10:23 AM
It must have been a forgotten mistake omitting Ebirah from this poll. But I know better. Ebirah would crush : Gorosaurus in a fight anyday. Or Minilla. Or Kamacuras. Or Manda. Or evan Varan! How about Ebirah VS. Biollante ! That would be incredible. Imagine those gigantic claws in action..Put it in the game, and I would be glad to demonstrate...:D
It was very dangerous fighting on dry land in Final Wars!
And was the boss battle in it's own movie Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster.
At Gamespot forums a thread advocating Ebirah and it's abilities has been developed that is quite interesting.
Plus Ebirah WAS in Save the Earth already in the underwater railer!
So like Hedorah and Battra he is already in the Godzilla games, yet not in playable form. Let's hope that may still change for the better. ;)
After all, we may all agree we want to play THE SEA MONSTER in Unleashed more than...Magmouth or other non movie mon stars.
Magmouth...another guy that walks on two legs...boring!!
Monsters are supposed to be strange and non humanoid for a change.
Look at the Ultraman series kaiju. They are weird and wild.
Ebirah is much more important and powerful and dangerous than Manda or Kamacuras, and they got in the poll. Ebirah could tag team with Titanosaurus as dangers from the deep sea!
Those huge claws would deal both blunt and EDGED attacks.
It's armor exoskeleton gives good defence, again much tougher than Kamacurus. The mantis would have the speed advantage. As it's ranged attack, Ebirah blasts a high pressure jet spray of water, for blunt type damage. It is the only Kaiju with "hands" (claws) as big as Orga! So it has good grabs and throws. Ebirah would be vulnerable to FIRE, and freezing cold and maybe electric. But not alien or radiation because it is a mutant of RED BAMBOO science !! :alien:
Final wars gave RESPECT to all the classic SHOWA TOHO monsters from the 60's.
I really liked the Ebirah battle in Final Wars where it was smashing all those buildings with it's massive claws! That was classic.
Admit it, we want to re create the fight between Ebirah and Hedorah from Final Wars and it may last more than five seconds!! Stabbed in the same eye again - ouch! Oh well, Hedorah can always re generate another one.
" Let's fry that overgrown lobster! Yes sir!"
"Sorry, but I'm a vegetarian!"
:cool:
Cookson
04-05-2007, 12:59 PM
If you guys(ATARI) are talking about taking out monsters for others, then I think you should REALLY consider removing Mecha-King Ghidorah for Kaiser Ghidorah. WHY? Because Mecha-King Ghidorah and the regular version of Ghidorah are pretty much identical in these game. Kaiser Ghidorah on the other hand, is totally different from the normal Ghidorah, and would be a very AWESOME character to have in the game.
I'll make a thread about this!!
chris55
04-05-2007, 01:14 PM
Final wars gave RESPECT to all the classic SHOWA TOHO monsters from the 60's.
UNTIL they went into battle :bored:
Beximus
04-05-2007, 05:48 PM
i think the name of this poll should probably change.
its kind of misleading in the sense that Mr. Strange has no connection to it, and the word official after his name makes it seem like this is a vote for who'se going to be in the game rather than just who we'd like to see in the game.
Timothy2035
04-05-2007, 06:10 PM
i think the name of this poll should probably change.
its kind of misleading in the sense that Mr. Strange has no connection to it, and the word official after his name makes it seem like this is a vote for who'se going to be in the game rather than just who we'd like to see in the game.
Mr. Strange never had a connection to it. The thread states Official Fan Poll. The name at the front was to I believe attract his attention to it when he started posting at Atari in other threads here. Mr. Strange did take notice of it, and later on herk took notice and started directing questions regarding the comments. This was made an official thread here from the member perspective as there should only be 1 thread about it.
The votes and comments are indeed important for feedback.
From a moderator's perspective, the thread title is fine.
Beximus
04-05-2007, 08:00 PM
ah okay
Naruto65
04-05-2007, 08:36 PM
...makes it seem like this is a vote for who'se going to be in the game rather than just who we'd like to see in the game.
Well technically it was purely fan based in the beginning, and then Herk came in and said that they were thinking about doing it anyway. Since it was already created, they decided to just use this one. So it is kinda, Official as Herk does encourage the Godzilla Fandom to vote.
Beximus
04-05-2007, 08:55 PM
oh snap! :up:
i hope that means hedorah and biollante will make it in then.
Naruto65
04-05-2007, 09:05 PM
I don't think you have to worry about those two....
Beximus
04-05-2007, 11:56 PM
lol well, i'd hate to set myself up for a dissapointment so i'll just keep hoping until they're officially announced. but this does look very promising :)
neil1988
04-06-2007, 12:04 PM
i think that the smog monster has a good chance:up: .
i wood like to see the sea monster but i wood not count on seing him in the game :cry: lol.
i wont mecha king ghidorah in the game and hopfully that will monst good chane will happen:D
i think that biollante has a very very good chane in being in the game.
Naruto65
04-07-2007, 04:28 AM
My perdictions are that no one is going to be cut from the last game, except for showa Gigan. Let's just say I have a good intuition...
TitanoGoji
04-07-2007, 05:03 AM
I hope not. It'd be awesome to play as a tag team with the two Gigans.
Beximus
04-07-2007, 07:13 AM
its unnecessary to have 2 gigans tho. the 2 versions don't have that many differences other than costume.
KaiserDestroyer
04-07-2007, 08:36 AM
I've just been wondering this for a little bit, how the heck are they going to make Biollante able to jump/be picked up and thrown? They'd have to do some serious size alterations to make that one work.
neil1988
04-07-2007, 09:11 AM
im not shure if she will even jump at all. i think that they will ceep all the monsters from the last game as well . but the ones i think that cod get cut out are jet jagaur . in the 1 game there were 10 monsters and in the last one there was 18 so i think there might be a good chance of 25 monsters in the next game. :heart: hoping that will happen
D.D.R.U.S.
04-07-2007, 09:57 AM
She wont need to jump. She has anti air tentacles and burrowing tentacles.
Timothy2035
04-07-2007, 11:55 AM
I hope not. It'd be awesome to play as a tag team with the two Gigans.
sounds interesting.
I've just been wondering this for a little bit, how the heck are they going to make Biollante able to jump/be picked up and thrown? They'd have to do some serious size alterations to make that one work.
Like DDRUS said, she may not need to jump. Though on throwing Biollante....well it is something weird to think about, but Jet Jaguar was thrown if he was in "giant mode" in STE. He shrunk back down to normal size, which I don't know why that happened.
She wont need to jump. She has anti air tentacles and burrowing tentacles.
Yeah so true. Plus I wonder will the game start her out in Rose form and then she morphs to the final form? In the STE game, there was the option in the mini game to fight Orga in first form.
im not shure if she will even jump at all. i think that they will ceep all the monsters from the last game as well . but the ones i think that cod get cut out are jet jagaur . in the 1 game there were 10 monsters and in the last one there was 18 so i think there might be a good chance of 25 monsters in the next game. :heart: hoping that will happen
Please let there be more Jet Jaguar fans. I love the robot. Its cool to me.
megamonk4
04-07-2007, 01:07 PM
I think biollante will have a special ability that she can't be grabbed. Even though she has the tendrils, I don't see how it may help out since she can jump. maybe her attacks are long ranged?
Meleefan12
04-07-2007, 01:18 PM
Unless they make her smaller like they did to Trapper and Piecemeal in Twisted Metal Small Brawl.
R0adie
04-07-2007, 01:27 PM
Hey Tim, I'm a Jet Jaguar fan too! I also hope he makes it into Unleashed...I just hope they revamp his moves. His rage was very easy to duck from and avoid and his beam did very little damage.
BigG1fan
04-07-2007, 03:47 PM
i voted biollante cause hes just so cool and monster x cause he can change into other monsters it seems and manda i just always loved that guy:D
Beximus
04-07-2007, 04:11 PM
i don't think biollante will have a rose form since it didnt move and didnt really do anything that the final form of biollante couldnt do as well. Biollante will probably not be able to jump. characters may have throws that will be altered when fighting her. other fighting games have done that before for really big characters like earthquake in samurai shodown 1 and 2.
to keep a sense of balance for her immense size they'll probably keep her weapon short range like Destroyah's was.
TitanoGoji
04-07-2007, 05:44 PM
its unnecessary to have 2 gigans tho. the 2 versions don't have that many differences other than costume.
They have more differences than Godzilla 2000 and Godzilla 90s do. Showa Gigan was a strictly hand-to-hand kaiju while GFW Gigan has the eye beam, the grappling hooks, the razor discs, the clamp-tail... If they can make the two Godzillas different enough from each other, then they can definitely do the same with the Gigans. They could even axe Showa Gigan's eye beam since they have GFW Gigan now.
Naruto65
04-07-2007, 06:08 PM
Just a thought, if Godzilla 90's is indeed in, they should model him after Goji 94', GvsSpace Godzilla. I personally believe that is as true as Godzilla gets.
Naruto
Beximus
04-07-2007, 06:46 PM
They have more differences than Godzilla 2000 and Godzilla 90s do. Showa Gigan was a strictly hand-to-hand kaiju while GFW Gigan has the eye beam, the grappling hooks, the razor discs, the clamp-tail... If they can make the two Godzillas different enough from each other, then they can definitely do the same with the Gigans. They could even axe Showa Gigan's eye beam since they have GFW Gigan now.
Gigan was always meant to have a beam weapon they just never used it in the movies. in the old NES game and other games gigan has been in he had the red beam. the reason i say there shouldnt be 2 gigans as 2 seperate monsters is because there shouldnt be too much development time spent on repeat monsters. especially if repeat monsters take up an extra slot. its better to have a variety of monsters first. however if they simply made a downloadable or unlockable showa skin for Gigan then that would be great. I'm all for that.
KaiserDestroyer
04-07-2007, 06:51 PM
She wont need to jump. She has anti air tentacles and burrowing tentacles.
True. I suppose they could just give her some more moves that reach large highpoints to counter jumping/flying attacks. And maybe they could make her unthrowable, but give her limited running abilities to balance it out or something.
Same deal if Kaiser Ghidorah makes it into the game. While him jumping seems more plausible, lifting him would be just as odd.
Beximus
04-07-2007, 07:44 PM
lol godzilla seemed to be able to do it just fine.
megamonk4
04-07-2007, 11:32 PM
Kaiser Ghidorah is probaly the only one to be almost as huge as biollante.
If Baragon gets in, I hope he gets some attack to show his horn glowing like a special attack similar to megalon when his drills glow.
Godzilla should get his powerful slam attack(lift the opponent by tail,etc. and repeatly slam them on the ground) as a throw to really do some damage against monsters like how he did against hedorah, king ghidorah, others I forgot. It's one of his trademark attacks to show that he's really king of the monsters.
Hey, what about tag team attacks? like when godzilla was lifted by rodan and slammed on top of king ghidorah, or like godzilla holds on to king ghidorah and anguirus carapace slams on him repeatly/rodan repeatly ?aerial slammed? him, or like king caesar kicking anguirus to try and hit godzilla from final wars.(I'm pretty sure there's other examples I'm missing).
besides that: Does it really matter now if a monster is humanoid or not, the game is going to be different from the past two in fighting.
Timothy2035
04-08-2007, 01:47 AM
Hey Tim, I'm a Jet Jaguar fan too! I also hope he makes it into Unleashed...I just hope they revamp his moves. His rage was very easy to duck from and avoid and his beam did very little damage.
glad to meet another JJ fan
D.D.R.U.S.
04-08-2007, 01:53 AM
Just a thought, if Godzilla 90's is indeed in, they should model him after Goji 94', GvsSpace Godzilla. I personally believe that is as true as Godzilla gets.
Naruto
You are ridiculously correct my Good sir. That is by far the best representation of Godzilla to date.
Naruto65
04-08-2007, 02:18 AM
I would definitly play as G'90's much more often, if it looked like G'94.
Naruto
Marshal Thomas
04-08-2007, 03:53 AM
Does Godzilla 60s/70s have any chance at all of being in Godzilla: Unleashed? thanks in advance
Naruto65
04-08-2007, 03:57 AM
It's there but the chance is seemingly low, significantly.
neil1988
04-08-2007, 10:27 AM
i wood like it if they put godzilla54 godzilla90s godzilla2000 and zilla. i think they wood be cool in the game. but we will have to whight and see:bored: LOL.
Meleefan12
04-08-2007, 10:42 AM
I think Godzilla 90's should be the G Vs SG version and his rage should have him transform into Godzilla Meltdown.
Philzilla 2000
04-08-2007, 03:33 PM
Monster X
Kaizer Ghidorah
Godzilla 90's
:up:
Naruto65
04-08-2007, 03:35 PM
Godzilla 90's isn't a new Toho monster....
Naruto
D.D.R.U.S.
04-08-2007, 11:21 PM
I'm soory for posting so many pictures but this is a good image of Biollante that you can easily see being fit into a fighting game compared to most images of her.
http://www.scifijapan.com/Perfect%20Box/biollante01a.jpg
Timothy2035
04-09-2007, 12:02 AM
Just imagine if Biollante had legs and also thorn spikes on its back like Anguirus.
You know rose bushes ( a great deal of the varieties) have very sharp thorns and what if those were used as impalers of a sort? Kind of like what Iris did to Gamera. Godzilla would have died. :bulb:
TitanoGoji
04-09-2007, 04:16 AM
Just imagine if Biollante had legs
GAH. Don't remind me of the Trendmasters figure, please! :p
You know rose bushes ( a great deal of the varieties) have very sharp thorns and what if those were used as impalers of a sort? Kind of like what Iris did to Gamera. Godzilla would have died. :bulb:
Well, she did stab through his hand and shoulder...
Gorjirus
04-09-2007, 07:42 AM
It's been way too many pages since someone said Red Ronin.
Or any of the other non-Movie kaiju. What about Dark Horse kaiju? Would that really be that much? Gekido Jin would be so sweet.
KaiserDestroyer
04-09-2007, 08:26 AM
Well, those four big, thick stocks coming off of Biollante could be used to move. I'm pretty sure that's how she charged in the movie.
Timothy2035
04-09-2007, 10:06 AM
Well, she did stab through his hand and shoulder...
Yeah...I forgot about that scene. :p See its somebody's fault for not releashing the movie on DVD.
Beximus
04-10-2007, 06:42 AM
they STILL havent released the movie on DVD?
neil1988
04-10-2007, 12:25 PM
im going to get all the godzilla movies ondvd i have most of them but alot of them are vhs so i will have to get them on dvd. i loked and looked there are three movis with no dvd godzilla vs biollante/ godzilla 1985/ godzilla vs megalon/ there are no dvd of them thayt i can find.:cry:
Timothy2035
04-10-2007, 01:00 PM
they STILL havent released the movie on DVD?
well its on Region 2, but we in Region 1 are still waiting.
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