Game runs like crap on High End Sytems

[Dregan73]

Core 2 duo 2.8ghz ( 1600mhz FSB )
Asus Commando
1gb Corsair 4-4-4-12
Asus Geforce 8800 gts ( 100.87 Drivers)
Windows XP pro
3dmark 2006 score 10,100

At first i thought it was a windows vista issue, so i formated and complety reinstalled fresh with XP and it was no beter, this game just studders every 4 to 5 secs constanly making it unplayble, when its not studdering the fps seem fine, whats the deal, using latest patch 1.16 and latest physx drivers.
Do you need a physx card to make this game smooth ? if so thats pretty gay

[crpgnut]

Ram is the biggest help to the game. It really likes more than a gig if at all possible. I upped from a gig to a gig and a half and it made a HUGE difference.

[Ominous Gamer]

Are you saying you have physx drivers installed, without a physx card in the system?

Are you sure thats what you are supposed to do?:bulb:

[Dregan73]

The game installs physx itself wich i belive just uses there physics engine in software mode, nothing wrong with using physx drivers as i have played physx only games like cellfactor with no card just fine before. anyway im getting like 50 to 60fps on high settings but it studders a ton, it smooths out somewhat after awile, prolly is ram, but dosent mater, after playing for about half hour i relized this game has the worse camera and controlls ever to grace a video game it is complety impossible to run away from a fight if you get into trouble, and clicking your tombstone with 5 mobs standing around it is next to impossible and results in endless deaths, this game needs at least WASD controlls for the camera, arrow keys blows. I realy wanted to like this game, to give mea break from world of warcraft. but there is nothing worse then frustrating controlls no mater how good a game looks. Just got command and conqer 3 and it runs flawless gonna play it instead thanks anyway.

[chickenbob]

this game runs like crap for me as well, i think it doesnt like ati cards, any other ati users out there having the same problem? i have it set on medium graphics and the fps still hovers in the 20-30 area, and my card is more than enough for this game, ive got an ati x1900xtx, the game should run smooth as silk, the developers really need to fix this problem, holds back a potentially great game.

[[BFs]GBesaw]

Dregan73 - I am running with an 8800 -- The game runs great at 1920x1200 resolution w/high settings -- I have the 97.92 drivers and it runs smooth w/o a physx card. I do have 4 gb of ram, so ram may be an issue.

chickenbob -- what version catalyst drivers are you using? I have the demo version installed on my other system and it runs well.

[L(C^2)]

Oh, but my system only has 768MB RAM and also run smoothly (except sometime the system will freeze :downcast:).

But .... why this game need so much RAM (or my computer has really not enough RAM :cry: ... ) ?

[Dregan73]

Yea i know prolly is ram im adding another gig soon anyway, i just built this new system and didnt have the money to buy 2gb off the bat or i would have, just after reading the required system specs for this game it only stated 1gb was needed, so ididnt think i would run into any issues. still i cant stand the controlls in this game. as far as the 97.92 drivers i cant run them at all as the nvida scaler is bugged and it forces my desktop rez at 1280 x 1024 and my native on my widescreen samsung is 1440 x 900 the issue is only resolved in 100 series drivers, dosent mater i get 60+ fps there just alot pausing like i said

[chickenbob]

GBesaw;8787942']Dregan73 - I am running with an 8800 -- The game runs great at 1920x1200 resolution w/high settings -- I have the 97.92 drivers and it runs smooth w/o a physx card. I do have 4 gb of ram, so ram may be an issue.

chickenbob -- what version catalyst drivers are you using? I have the demo version installed on my other system and it runs well.

Im not entirely sure, but i think its the newest version, its 06.12 so version 6 ill check the website and see if a new one is out, but i really doubt it would make much of a difference, my problem is the developers poor optimization of this game for all video cards, i have a high end system and this game should run perfect, more than enough ram, i have 2 gigs, a x1900xtx and 5200 x2 athlon.

[Dregan73]

Id give up my left nut if i could move around with the keyboard instead of the mouse, my hand hurts just after of hour of playing from all the hassle trying to get he stupid toon to move where you want him to

[LordFess]

My puter is a medium range system with 1 gg of ram and a 250 mg ATI 9600 video card and the game runs very very well for me atm knock on wood.

[Celtica]

Oh, but my system only has 768MB RAM and also run smoothly (except sometime the system will freeze :downcast:).

But .... why this game need so much RAM (or my computer has really not enough RAM :cry: ... ) ?

If you want great graphics and realistic gameplay, then you won't find any games now-a-days that run well with less than 1 gig of RAM. All recently released games run much better with more RAM. I just upgraded to 2 gig of RAM and I don't have any major issues. Also, the RAM on your graphics card play a role, too.

Most games are developed with the higher end RAM in mind, to give the player the ultimate gaming experience. ;)

[psychophat]

this game needs at least WASD controlls for the camera, arrow keys blows

:up: TADA !!! Your wish has been granted !!!

I'm originally a Quake/UT player but we do also like RPG a lot, so I customized the key and I'll post a tutorial section on how that thing goes. So you can make it like ours, well sorta.

Our setup:
e zoom in
s zoom out
d cam pan/turn left
f cam pan/turn right
a default
z skills
b pickupall
v pickupallmagical
t inventory
w heal
r mana
q quest
g map
1-6 default

Layout:
1 2 3 4 5 6
q w e r t
a s d f g
z x c v b

[Alandric191]

runs perfect on my computer don't know what your problem is. high settings high reso everything

[kuni_bob]

AMD 64 Athlon 3000+, 1.8 GHz
4x512 MB RAM
GeForce 7900 GS 256 MB PCI-E

Everything is on high settings. Runs nicely. I do get the occasional stutters, but not as often as you're experiencing. Obviously, my rig is much less powerful than yours -- I wonder if the RAM is what makes the difference?

[Alandric191]

Core 2 duo 2.8ghz ( 1600mhz FSB )
Asus Commando
1gb Corsair 4-4-4-12
Asus Geforce 8800 gts ( 100.87 Drivers)
Windows XP pro
3dmark 2006 score 10,100

At first i thought it was a windows vista issue, so i formated and complety reinstalled fresh with XP and it was no beter, this game just studders every 4 to 5 secs constanly making it unplayble, when its not studdering the fps seem fine, whats the deal, using latest patch 1.16 and latest physx drivers.
Do you need a physx card to make this game smooth ? if so thats pretty gay


1gb Corsair 4-4-4-12. yep. That would be your problem. ouch. What speed is the ram? 1g is lacking you need another for sure. Also corsair isn't the best ram out there either I personally don't like it having problems with 2 separate computers when I used that type of ram.


E6400 2.13ghz Dual Core
Asus P5N SLI Plus
2g Patriot Extreme pc6400 Dual Channel
XFX Nvidia 7950GT
Vista Home Premium

I don't get any lag period.. no stutters, nothing, so something is wrong with your computer.

[Ominous Gamer]

1gb Corsair 4-4-4-12. yep. That would be your problem. ouch. What speed is the ram? 1g is lacking you need another for sure. Also corsair isn't the best ram out there either I personally don't like it having problems with 2 separate computers when I used that type of ram.



The timings, or mhz rating, of the memory would not cause shuttering issues with a game.
Patriot isn't known to be cream of the crop either btw.

[SoulForge]

Unless you set your FSB up higher in the bios the default Core 2 Duo speed is 1066 not 1600.

[Dregan73]

Unless you set your FSB up higher in the bios the default Core 2 Duo speed is 1066 not 1600.

I guess you dont know much about computers, i run a overclocked system 7 x 400 = 2800ghz, 400mhz quad pump FSB = 1600mhz not 1066, by default the fsb of a core 2 duo is 266 mhz 4 x 266=1066, and runs a 3/2 memory divider to force the ram to run at full speed wich is 400mhz, i simply set the memory divider on a 1:1 ratio and set my ram to normal speeds of 400mhz and waala you get a free 2.8ghz cpu that outperforms intels $1000 extreme cpu for only 180 bucks. and you get a huge FSB boost of 1600mhz to boot, and im only going lite, core 2 cpu are fully capable of running 3.5ghz with a 2000mhz fsb with beter cooling, most would say my overclock is easy mode as i didnt want to buy faster memory im using the standerd ddr2 pc6400 800mhz so the only thing i overlocked is the cpu nothing else. anyway i found the problem i had to set texture quality to medium need 2gb of ram to load high rez textures. somebody made a comment about corsair, sorry but corsair, kingston , crucial are top of line, there nothings wrong with my ram, other then i need more. Normaly i run kingston, but since my new asus commando motherboard is picky i decided to go with the recomended ram for this board to avoid overlocking problems.
Also i i guess im just shocked the game needs 2gb of ram ro run smooth, it dosent look that demanding, but whatever, runs fine on medium texture, runs at 76fps on high minus the studdering from all the hd loading. so theres nothing wrong with my system at all, in fact let me know when you can beat a 10k+ score on 3dmark 2006 and will talk about something being wrong with my system, kk http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=1522176 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=1522176)

[SoulForge]

1.) I said 'Unless'
2.) I never said there was anything wrong with your system

'Guess you don't know much about reading'

[Dregan73]

1) Well it was pretty clear as i said the cpu is running 2.8ghz and there is no 2.8ghz core 2 duo, there is 1.86, 2.13, 2.4, 2.66 and 2.93 extreme, so if you understood overclocking then you would have known the 1600mhz fsb was directly related to my already noted cpu speed wich i asumed to be ovious, in other words why a make a comment on core 2 fsb speeds as it was a problem or soemthing. as far and number 2 that was not directed to you it was directed to a post that was before yours, sorry for not being clear and quoting the second person

[SoulForge]

My apologies then.

[Dregan73]

None needed, its kewl, problem resolved, we all know now this game needs 2bg of ram to run on high settings, topic closed =)

[sxamiga]

Actually, 1 gig of ram is plenty as long as you have a powerful enough CPU and video card to go along with it. I'm running Silverfall on the highest settings with 1 gig of ram and no problems. But the catch is that I'm also running an AMD 64 bit 3700+ processor and an Nvidia 256 MB 7300 AGP video card. The combination of the processor and the video card has, so far, allowed every game I have to run on absoulutely the higest settings with no lag, slowdowns, etc. So, more ram or a better CPU, your choice.
sincerely,
sxamiga

[SoulForge]

If it drops below 60 FPS in any given circumstance its not good enough. And your system isn't capable of doing so.

[chadface]

hey soulforge upload your save folder to my thread i wanna check out your characters just rar or zip your save folder and upload useing rapidshare

link to my thread: http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=578050

[chadface]

its so wierd that the game runs fine on my piece of **** barley able to run microsoft pinball system i have 1 gig of ram nvidea 5500 264mb piece of crap graphix card and a pentium 4 prossesor and yet the game runs absoulutley fine on my system i just don't get it??

[SoulForge]

I was gonna say that but it felt mean, I have widescreen too. Very nice.

[Dregan73]

I also like to add that this thread has been more entertaining then the game has been lol

[[BFs]GBesaw]

Come on -- Let's keep it civil and try to help each other out.

[kuni_bob]

Oh, lordy. :\

[sxamiga]

Yes, your CPU is better than mine, but mine is plenty powerful as well and I too have my video card overclocked, plus I turn off any anti virus and spysweeper programs that I have. That is why the game runs as it does for me. As to building computers, I congratulate you. My friend and I also build them (as a hobby, not for a living) so, we too, know what goes into them and what is the best equipment (like you have). Lastly, I was simply, as I stated, trying to help. If not you, then others who might be wondering why the game does not run well for them. I see nothing wrong with that. Now let's drop this shall we and just enjoy the forums and the game itself.
sincerely,
sxamiga

[WlfgngCt]

I'm running an x6300 on an Asus P5NSLI board with 1gb Kingston pc3500. My vid card is an MSI GeForce 7900gs. Running windows XP pro, I had to drop down to medium settings just to play the dang thing... and it still freezes and lags.
Any suggestions? Many thanks.

[Dregan73]

You need 2 gb of ram dude, same thing i went threw

[Damballah]

The game is running fine on my system. I haven't FRAPs'ed it yet but there are no noticeable slowdowns or choppiness:

Intel C2D e6600
ASUS P5W DH Deluxe
2GB Corsair Twin2X2048-8500C5D (Dominator Line)
eVGA 8800GTX
Soundblaster X-Fi
2x WDD Raptor (150GB 16MB Cache) in Raid 0

Nothing is overclocked at this moment because I haven't really needed to overclock anything yet unless I wan't higher 3dmark06 scores on the synthetic processer benchmarks.

That being said Im running the game at 2560x1600 with all in game settings maxxed and driver settings set to 16x AF (High Quality to disable optimzations for max image quality) and 2X AA (with Transparency AA set to multisample .. don't really need more at this resolution.)

Perhaps you just need more RAM like others have said. I don't see alot of big gaming rig's setup with less than 2GB now a days.

[NilmarM]

I've read this thread with amusement, it sounds like some people are getting off on "mine is bigger than yours". I'm running Silverfall with a celeron D, 2gig of 184 pin DDR Ram and an FX-6200 PCI card. Smooth as silk, no glitches, no slowdowns, no stutters and I could care less what the frame rate is. The game is a lot of fun and I'm enjoying it.

[Celtica]

Dregan, you do know your stuff, no doubt about it. HOWEVER, your arguments would be so much more compelling and acceptable, if you wouldn't call people names. Everybody has a right to their opinions and statements, even if they might be false. That's why others are here, like you, to set the record straight and explain the issue, so that everyone is able to understand it.

There is absolutely no need to sink to such a low level and call people names. We are all here for a mature discussion, so please, keep it that way.

Thanks!! :up:

As for the game, I only experienced major FPS drops, when I visited the palace in the Clockwork city. Right now, I'm not even playing it, because I have enough stuff going on with my gaming clan www.theartofwarfare.net, playing Far Cry. Plus, I just got Shivering Isles, the Oblivion expansion.

Silverfall is not worth getting all worked up over. ;)

[[BFs]GBesaw]

Celtica -- Absolutely correct. I have deleted post in this thread to clean it up. Keep future posts on topic and do not debate video standard or the like.

[Dregan73]

omg cry me a hand full, telling somebody there dum or retarded is not name calling, at least not dirty name calling, its more like a temporary state of mind that needs fixing, and i dont recall using any 4 letter words in this thread, wasnt that bad maybe just a little but completly in line, ehh whatever gbesaw deleted every good post dosent mater anymore, party pooper, hows that for name calling, yea i said it, Party Pooper

[Dregan73]

oh yea one more thing, and ill do this as nicely as im possibley able to, since this was deleted, and took me hours last night to dig up and find this, yea i may be a little mean how i talk to people but i also try to educate them at the same time, sorry i was beaten as a kid so im a little hostel, and bit defensive, anyway i uploaded the 3dfx 30fps vs 60fps demo to filefront with included glidewrapper to make it work for those people who cant see the differance. To help them understand why 60fps is beter and 30 isnt ok.

http://files.filefront.com/3dfxdemo_3060hz_plus_glidezip/;7169131;/fileinfo.html