View Full Version : WOW WTF THIS GAME SUCKS
noobspwner
05-02-2007, 09:17 PM
wtf... u cant jump. controls r completly retarded, tracers... dont even get me started on those lasers. if i put my graphics on very high everything its unplayable and i have a very good computer(run bf2 full everything) and not ANY glitchin or any lag at ALL! this game should not have been released because theres lots of work to still be done, or can people tell me good settings to have that i dont get laser tracers and blurry picutre. and explain to me why this is a good game.
noobspwner
05-02-2007, 10:00 PM
god if u like bf2 and games like that dont buy this, this game is horrible, i cant belive i wanted it so bad.the sound lags the game lags when u have it on low graphics on a awsome computer. cant join internet games. wow...... idiots who made this r retarded
jerryhopper
05-02-2007, 10:36 PM
According to your type of post, i can safely say: the ArmA community is very happy to see your are NOT satisfied with this game ;)
Back to playing BFxxxx for you i guess.
- did you read what this game was about? it is a Tactical shooter/Simulator. And thats about everything BF2 isnt.
thanks for sharing your thoughts though....
noobspwner
05-02-2007, 10:57 PM
r u joking me... they jus need to fix some controls in this game. allow you to jump like a actual human being, get ride of those gay "tracers" that look like lazers and make the gameplay more entertaing. well does anyone know how to make the graphics good without being laggy, i tried the one turnin off anti and the other or w/e and still dont work.running everything on full jus made it really glitching. i want to play like i do in cs, u cant aim fast in the game for shlt.
noobspwner
05-02-2007, 11:00 PM
and another thing. i cant get the online play working. AND i havnt seen ONE server with more then 26 people in it which was the highest, i read reviews it was 50+ but dosnt seem like most people can even do that, where as in bf2 there was always maps with atleast 50-64 people in it
Bayonet
05-03-2007, 01:37 AM
Ya, like Jerryhopper said. This isn't quake,BF42,BF2. This is not spray and pray. I bet you miss the jump button, a "bunny-hopper" would. AssNecks like that is why I ditched that arcade crap for something like this, with teamwork required for survival. Instead of whining cuz you're getting pnwed all the time, do some reading about the community and the unlimited possibilties that mods can create. What did EA create for BF2 other than revenue through lame Expansion Packs.
noobspwner
05-03-2007, 02:06 AM
right. this is not like real life either idiot. k well why is the sound all screechy/laggy/hella annoying. and why cant i get helecopters/planes to jus move left to rigth instead of my mouse doing everything. Also in the cinemas its almost always lagging and has crappy box images. is this cuz i dled it and it sucks balls? or is it cuz i dont have the disk for it to read off of which i think is the problem. if it is this can i get my money given back to me so i can buy the dvd disk one?
Dnalur
05-03-2007, 07:23 AM
If your having issues with lag or glitching tweak the settings in the option files and turn some of the unneeded items off/disabled. There is a thread here that talks about optimizing your settings.
It has lag issues because this isn't your BF2 game. The maps are massive.
There is no bunnyhopping because again, this isn't BF2.
The tracers will and could look like that. Ever seen a tracer round in real life, video? They aren't perfect, but a good imitation.
At this moment your not seeing a lot of servers because the Atari version is at a higher patch number then the rest of the world. Later this week, maybe next you'll see patch 1.07 released.
And after all that you still don't like it because it isn't like BF2 you should have read the cover better. "Simulation" means a game that simulates real warfare.
MS_CombatMedic
05-03-2007, 08:10 AM
According to your type of post, i can safely say: the ArmA community is very happy to see your are NOT satisfied with this game ;)
Back to playing BFxxxx for you i guess.
- did you read what this game was about? it is a Tactical shooter/Simulator. And thats about everything BF2 isnt.
Amen brother
noobspwner
05-03-2007, 02:27 PM
yeah i read it was a simulation thats why i bought it. jus so u no i have seen tracers in real life. they aint red and they aint on every shot.
heres my specs incase it is because my comp isnt good enough for this game.
hp
processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50 GHz
memory 2046MB
system type 32-bit Operating System
graphics card is some bfg one witch was better then the NVida one they put in. i dled all updates for my comp to.
noobspwner
05-03-2007, 03:46 PM
k the sound is REALLY starting to piss me off, even when u start up the game at the main menu it has laggy sound, WTF is wrong with the game, can someone from atari come in this thread and help?
sneekn
05-03-2007, 03:48 PM
noobwhiner you pi$$ and moan, complain, insult us, argue and in the very same posts ask for help from the community LOL
prolly not the way to get help around here but good try!
btw I have the 4400+ and a 256 nvidia card and it runs great...
guess your system just doesnt run as good, you could try staying out of the porn sites when your parents are asleep that may help. or just do us all a favor and go back to bf2 im sure they miss you!
noobspwner
05-03-2007, 04:13 PM
wow stfu, k do the bots in this game have telepathic abilitys or something. k well this is what happens. i am in a night map on campain. i havnt shot at anyone yet i run around the whole area im suppose to attack... ok? then i go into a door, walk up stairs and there is a window at the top of the stairs.k... as soon as i walk up to the window im already being shot at from someone that is like 200ft away. is there a way to make it so they dont have super powers? or is there a system i can dl so i get gps on the opposing team.
and i payed the money for the game i expect for these atari people to try and atleast help.
sneekn
05-03-2007, 04:23 PM
"or is there a system i can dl so i get gps on the opposing team"
whahahahahahaahhhahahhahah I am really sorry but you have got to be the biggest bf2 junkie I have ever seen... good luck though really... there is a thread here that gives tips but its for game performance not dumbing down the game so bf2 kiddies can play...
noobspwner
05-03-2007, 04:56 PM
i dont think u understood i was joking, cuz the bots automatically know where u r, which is very retarded!
Dnalur
05-03-2007, 06:07 PM
i dont think u understood i was joking, cuz the bots automatically know where u r, which is very retarded!
Here is some advise. Spend more then ten minutes of time in the BIS forums searching the ArmA Troubleshooting section. It is packed with good info on how to get the game running better.
There are issues. Because this is a Military Simulation software that has been "dumbed down" to be sold to the general public. BIS themselves are working on patches to help optimize the gameplay. Please read up on it before condemning the game in a few plays.
About the Bots superhuman abilities? Do NOT try to Quake the Bots. lol You have to approach them tactically. Judicious usage of stuff like terrain masking is a good start. ;0)
noobspwner
05-04-2007, 01:01 AM
rofl k, i shot this guy in night (same map as b4) and killed him. then i see this guy laying down like 300 ft away from me on another hill shooting at me and then im dead... like wtf. HOW could he see me at night and i was laying down by a tree. i call them superots.
BadAzzMofo20
05-04-2007, 02:09 AM
Well I can see you don't like this game. I can agree with you that this game does have lots of bugs that need to be ironed out but don't compare this game to the BF series or Quake or any of those 3d shooters. This game was not designed to be a run and gun. This game is designed as a cilivian version to the military trainer known as VBS1 and the new VBS2 http://www.virtualbattlefieldsystems.com/. VBS is used by several countries and the US JFK Special Warfare school for training and coodination of tatical battlefields. I did some training on VBS back in my army days and I can tell you this. IF you want a game that comes close to real life modern combat Armed Assualt and Operation Flashpoint are the best games out there. BF2 is fun and all but this one is not a run and gun. It requires patience tatics and coordination. Plus it goes to show you that one man armies never win. As far as jumping, its not needed in armed assualt. Besides the last thing any modern day soldier would do wearing the interceptor, plates, gear and ammo is jump. That junk can reach anywhere from 30lbs to 60lbs!
Comm15
05-05-2007, 04:25 PM
yeah i read it was a simulation thats why i bought it. jus so u no i have seen tracers in real life. they aint red and they aint on every shot.
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If you've seen tracers in real life then you should know that some are red.
I am a Soldier and have seen red tracers fired from Machine Guns.
As others have pointed out, if you hate this game so much go back to Battlefield (like that's realistic), this is a tactical combat simulation not some run and gun game.
Also do you think in combat a soldier would jump around like a bunny rabbit while wearing almost 50 pounds of gear and carrying a 8-24 pound weapon?. Believe me I can barely get up from a prone position while wearing that stuff and more.
noobspwner
05-06-2007, 03:20 AM
k i finally got good at mulitplayer, i think this game is awsome but the fcking lag is un exceptable, i pretty much have a top of the line computer and have to run everything on normal or off. if i run into bushes i still lag its horrible, onlything i can do is snipe. FIX THE LAG IT IS NOT MY COMP
MS_CombatMedic
05-06-2007, 08:47 AM
You keep talking about a top of the line computer, well, my isn't, I have a Dell9100 laptop, 3.2 P4 processor, 1 Gig memory, and a ATI Radeon 256 MB video card - My rig runs it just fine, no lag, no problems - perhaps it is something within your PC - another program running, outdated drivers, fragmented HD - The majority of people here have no problem, so it is not the game - hope you find what is giving you such a problem.
Dnalur
05-06-2007, 10:32 AM
Agreed, my game runs fine with a Nvidia Gforce 7600 GS 512mb with the latest drivers, P4 3.2 gig HD and 1 gig of ram. I get a easy 20-30 FPS during heavy combat and under calm conditions it rises to 40 fps.
But since it doesn't work on your PC the game must be at fault, huh?
havoc_squad
05-06-2007, 10:52 AM
I can also testify that the vast majority of the problems currently with software currently is either user error or because hardware manufactures and operating system developers don't cooperate as well as they should for ensuring true capatibilty.
Dual Core (hardware) and Win Vista (OS) are key examples of why users and software developers for Windows boil in frustration.
Regarding to your opinion when you created this topic, you needed to fully read the product description before complaining about lack of features that no true simulation focused game would include.
As for the reply BadAzz****20 said about the gear weight, I'd like to see those expecting to jump in Armed Assault have to in real life jump over 1 1/2 foot obstacle with 30 lb rucksack, 30lb body armor & ammo, and with the standard issue weapon.
Don't even get me started about people expecting to hit something 400 meters away while walking or running.
Anyways, my humble advice is to learn as much as you can about land warfare and be willing to swallow pride when proved wrong. It's painful at first but vital in building and maintaining accurate knowledge about a subject.
Here's a small bit of food for thought:
Whether its ignorance or incorrect knowledge, either will get you killed in war.
thedud3
05-06-2007, 01:51 PM
While I am not taking the stance of the thread starter and saying that this game totally sucks right off the bat, I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who won't acknowledge that it has some serious problems.
First of all, not being able to jump isn't a huge problem, but I would at least like to be able to hurdle over objects like in Rainbow Six so that I don't have to walk all the way to the end of a bunker or short wall to be able to get past it.
Also, it seems quite ridiculous that whether or not my teammates survive any given situation relies completely on chance. Sometimes I will undertake a mission and, despite the fact that I do everything I am supposed to do, my teammates all die quite fast, leaving me with very little chance of being able to complete my mission.
The dude who started this thread may be being a bit hasty, but he is right about at least one thing: enemy units are ****ing superhuman. If I am, say, trying to take out an enemy tank, the clumbsiness of the AT launcher combined with the fact that these tanks can see for hundreds of meters, even through very thick brush, makes whether or not I get shot a crapshoot. I hate to say it, but I really am starting to regret buying this game.
havoc_squad
05-06-2007, 03:24 PM
I must ask this question first though, have you ever played Operation Flashpoint before for a significant amount of time? (1 year or more qualifies).
You will find armored units quite lethal and capable in real life in hunting down enemy infantry that are not fully utilizing cover. Thermal optics used for the M1A2 have been known to effectively find snipers concealed in cover in training excercises.
If you are in charge of an AI squad instead of being lead by the AI, it is up to you to properly deploy your forces. Even with improved AI, micromanagement is essential in any real sim, whether we like it or not.
I also ask you to get informed by signing up on the BIS forum (the game developer) and searching for information on your complaints. Many issues complained about by players are currently on the Armed Assault wiki, especially regarding AI improvements. For this sim the developers have made several adjustments and improvements from its earlier European release and will continue to do so in the future.
To help with this gameplay issue, what was it you were attacking? Was it a T-72, or a BMP, or a BRDM? A T-72 usually will require 3 to 5 infantry AT AT-4 or RPG before it is disabled or destroyed. In real life, the only successful attacks with AT-4 or RPG is firing at the rear, or the sides of a tank if skirt armor is not present.
Secondly, was there a significant anti-tank defense presence around to back up the squad you were in? Finally, where was the AT solider in relation to the enemy armor, was the unit in front of the tank when it attacks, the side, the rear?
If the AT soldier fires at armor when the turret is angled close to his position OR if the AT soldier fires at a tank facing 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock arc area, expect the firing unit to be shot at very soon.
Anyways, if you wish to seek more detailed tactical & strategic help with Armed Assault, I recommend you join the BIS forums where Armed Assault veterans can give you some very helpful tips.
As a last note, I can certify that OFP and Armed Assault at first can be unforgiving sims regarding realism, so don't be discouraged if you get killed alot just starting out as a beginner. Hell, I got my ass handed to me alot in OFP when I first played it, however I got better. :cool:
Bunks
05-06-2007, 05:37 PM
Sorry havoc, but the realism argument has been played out. If you want to see how this game should have simulated realism, just download WGL mod for OFP. A bunch of amature modders make these devs look silly. What they did was use the spectre of realism to avoid sweating the details of infantry movement and got lazy. Any military person with experience in small arms will tell you they didn't even come close to being realistic. IMO, they left the hard work to the modders to make the game right. So I call BS on the realism nonsense.
Sure the game still has the OFP editor and mission making capabilities that expand beyond OFP. Thats the only part that is better. But for many its still a step back till the mods come out. BIS had the most loyal community of players at its disposal but ignored them. I suspect because they really didnt want the feedback that would make them have to work harder than they had too. But we got what we got and now have to make the best of it. But please don't rub salt in the wounds by making excuses for them.
WhiskeyBullets
05-06-2007, 10:36 PM
Best mods for OFP were #1 Wgl and #2 ECP ist almost like knowbody from BIS even played WGL to see what improvements the MOD made to there game. If you want realism like bunks said try WGL and you can pick up OFP for like $15 to $10 bucks.
Klown Killer
05-08-2007, 09:49 PM
I can't even get it to launch. I created a post about it and I understand quite a few people are having the same issue so i hope they get it in the next patch. This is the curse of PCs. Simply too many combinations to account for in hardware. Anyway, I will be glad to find a game that DOESN'T play like 2142 BF because personally I am sick of all the bunny hopping, diving, grenade spamming and run-into-20-people-all-blasting-with-machine-guns-at-you-and-knife-them-all-without-taking-a-single-hit players. And by the way... the guy that started this thread IS a bunny hopper, i've seen him playing in 2142. Now if only it will launch...
noobspwner
05-09-2007, 12:55 AM
ive never played 2142, and ive bunnyhopped once or twice in bf2, i usually jus pwn noobs with my single flying skills in the hele
sneekn
05-09-2007, 01:10 AM
ive never played 2142, and ive bunnyhopped once or twice in bf2, i usually jus pwn noobs with my single flying skills in the hele
"single" enough said...
thedud3
05-09-2007, 12:50 PM
I feel that I need to clear something up. Bunny hopping is a lot different than a lot of people think it is. It started out in the Quake engine as a way to get more speed by using only the strafe keys while you jump. It is also possible in Half-Life. Although people like to throw the term around, it is NOT possible in any of the Battlefield games all those people are doing is jumping around. There's a big difference. Look on google video for some videos of real bhopping.
Hopping used of any kind imho can be termed Bunny. Cause Bunnies hop. lol The point is, it gets abused. Which is sad. Gamers do not wanna meet each other in the field and just play the game as intended. I think that is what gaming is now... all about seeing who can find any glitch possible in games to get an edge, and humiliate the other players.
Could I be wrong? Sure. But history is proving me right. This is another reason why I prefer Co ops and A.I. to play against. I need never have to worry now that the A.I. is glitching or acting in any way out of character than how I expect them to be.
Arrowhead2k7
05-09-2007, 01:24 PM
Although people like to throw the term around, it is NOT possible in any of the Battlefield games all those people are doing is jumping around. There's a big difference.
In BF2 and BF2142 half of the time when I take a shot at someone, their initial reaction is to hit the space bar like nothing else. And in that game they can hop higher than an olympic gold medalist.
Sure you can't hop around all over the place like you can in a game like Quake, but in my opinion, one super hop is too many super hops.
I don't miss the jump ability at all in Arma, and seeing the guys hop in BF always makes me go :rolleyes: .
h00t74
05-09-2007, 02:07 PM
To help w/ your performance, turn off AA in game. This seems to help[ everyone tremendously.
thedud3
05-10-2007, 05:31 PM
There's absolutely nothing wrong with jumping to avoid enemy fire. It's built into the game and everyone can do it. One major reason people do it is if they have to switch weapons, reload, or simply turn around to take aim. It's stupid not to do anything and everything to avoid being shot. They have a stamina system built into the game to keep people from abusing it. It's not a glitch or a bug. It's part of the game.
Arrowhead2k7
05-11-2007, 01:09 AM
Well think of it this way. This is a realism game. Now, in real life, have you ever seen footage of a fully geared up infantry personal jump more than a foot when taking enemy fire? It just doesn't work that way, the only thing they usually end up doing is hitting the dirt and finding cover if they didn't catch a bullet right off the bat. And that's exactly what you should be prepared to do in Arma.
sammson03
05-14-2007, 12:17 AM
NOOBSPAWNER? WHat kind of graphics card do you have? and not just the brand name that doesn't tell us anything?
havoc_squad
05-14-2007, 03:13 AM
I also agree, get the idea of jumping out of your heads and other cheap arcade tactics to avoid getting hit. If you want to win a Armed Assault mission without having to replay a mission 22 times or more, lock up your BF and CS mindset and start playing with a professional mindset.
AngryWolf65
05-14-2007, 07:23 PM
Is this online play your performance problem online? For me, this game runs much better than BF2, but then that's the single player part. Man, I hope online play doesn't suck.
I agree with you about controls...they could have been done more user friendly:down:
As for jumping...I'm glad it's out:up: That crap is for Unreal Tournament. How many war movies you seen with soldier hopping around like bunny rabbits avoiding fire? None, they are too heavily loaded up to be jumping around like they are on crack or something. Save your bouncing around for the bedroom.:p
noobspwner
05-16-2007, 11:32 PM
i am now using a ATI 1950X pro and i can run everything full, BUT HOWEVER, my game either crashes every second game i join, or when i change my settings to lower or high (random) the whole game goes black, an i gotta do it liek 30 times b4 it sets in. AND when im ig the graphics jus stop loading and i have horrible flat edges and 1 color objects and it wont load them.
sammson03
05-17-2007, 06:59 PM
Noob I had the same problem. Open up your Catalyst software that came with the card. From there manually select everything to the highest setting and make sure that its not set to have application select settings. That should fix it . I had the same problem.
i ask you in all seriousness. why do you think we care? and also, why do you think that your insignificant opinion should be vocalized so loudly? its your fault you bought this game if you dont like it. you should have done research, maybe you should have played operation flashpoint (it sounds like you didnt, or else you would not be complaining about all of this.) am i saying ArmA is perfect? no. it has some room to improve, i will admit. however, its the most realistic fps out there, and its pretty damn fun once you get used to it (though it is challenging to say the least)
8800GTS
05-24-2007, 04:10 PM
I play BF2 and BFV with a couple of guys on a weekly basis. I've tried to get them interested in ArmA, and one actually did buy the game. We tried out some MP missions I created and he was completely crippled by the scope of the sim. Everything from the fact that the weapon was not slaved to the center of the screen to the several iterations of run/walk speeds dependent on stance really torqued him.
ArmA (and OFP of course) are not for the *****es out there.
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