DBZ Game Series Ideas Discussion Thread

[Marby]

Hello, Atari community.

Please use this thread to discuss all idea's posted in the ''one post only'' thread.
Here is a link to that thread: http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=585091
If you want to comment on someone's idea's please quote the idea you want to talk about. You can post as many times as you want in here, the one post only rule does not apply in this thread. ;)

Happy posting everyone,
Marby.

[Vishkugeta]

Good Idea for making 2 seperate threads.

[L Lawliet]

Great idea Marby. Now it can be organized. :up:

[IluvTenkaichi]

AN MMO RELEASED IN AMERICA AND EUROPE, among other places, tht isnt only in asia!

[obeida]

Marby i have a question. Ciel said she views what we say. I thought Atari didn't make the dbz games?

[L Lawliet]

Marby i have a question. Ciel said he views what we say. I thought Atari didn't make the dbz games?

Ciel is a woman. ;)
Atari sends feedback to the developers.

[obeida]

Thanks. You guys really are doing a great job. :)

[Majin Trunks]

Obeida, I like your avatar and thanks for these 2 threads Marby!

[Kamiccolo33]

Yes, a good idea. Let's keep the one-idea thread really tidy as well.

Shouldn't it be a T3 suggestion thread? Or is it just a general thread for DBZ games?

[Broly LegendSSJ]

A really great idea marby! Very very cool! :up:

[Lightning]

You really pulled it off this time Marby! Thanks:up:

[morgan2042]

nice idea, Marby:up:

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Okay, time to get on topic. I am currently making the final touch on Part 1 of my project. I am about 50% done with Part 2 :D

[VBG]

I don't see why 1 post is a problem. You can just edit your post later...

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Yeah, have anyone said it was?:confused:

[ss4 Broly`]

K Here we go these are my ideas for t3 last time i did not know squat but ive had so many ideas stored up that i have to share
Heres the Contents;
#1 My story
#2 Finishers and ultimates!!!
#3 Fatigue System
#4 Environmental damage!!!!
#5 My New targeting mode!!!(optional for the game)
#6 Simultaneous Battling system!!!!



STORY
Well heres how my story would be ok first you would start off in the db era and of course work your way up . so anyway id have the feature were you fly more like in b3 this was way more realistic but not totally.

first off the world would be a lot bigger so flying around would take longer. not too long but realisticly. then you would of course go through different types of training like fro example korin,
kami , and so on but the only differents would be is that you are actually gonna have to chase
korin or whatever happen with training


like when goku trained on king kais planet he had to go through the step process get bubbles, catch gregory then, hed be able to really train and another realistic part of this would be that you would actually struggle under the gravity you are under this would be the same for other types of training
aside from that the story would be set up in a whole new way the
episode would be exact like the real deal is wat i call it i mean actuall episodes it will say the

episode number and the title of it . but you would have a pretty long time to finish a saga time limit is unknown but it would not be setup as anime scenes from the show it would be like b1 but in the

tenkaichi form but there would be more action instead untill the last ep there would finally be some kind of cool cutscene every ep would have an exciting cutscene makin you more interested the battles would be pretty much the same except for one idea im gonna add later

Finishers And ultimates

Well now its finisher time and ultimates. so the finishers would kinda go like this. i was really disapointed wen i seen the spirit bomb in the first game so i thought well the next will improve still no improvement on any of the ultimates for that matter
so heres my idea for a spirit bomb you get your finisher when you launch it well for one the move will be actuall size like in the show anyway you launch your move then here comes the fun part and hard
you launched you attack on your opponent then if it gets close enough

your opponent puts there hands on it and trys to oppose it this is were the beam struggle kinda fits

in but its not a beam struggle you try to add power to end your opponent while he or she is trying
to push it back at you so they have equal chance of of damaging you this results in who ever

rotated the anolgs faster but thers another way too doge the ultimat say your goku you can launch a kamehameha as long as you have full ki bars not max and have your beam try to push it

back FOR EXAMPLE COOLER VS GOKU super nova against kamehameha you get the idea!!!!!! now
there is more to add to the finishers but they are seperate ideas


FATIGUE SYSTEM!!!!!

this is one of my fav ideas the fatigue system!!!! this is were you will have a body next to your health meter it will be in green and as battle progresses your body will go from green to yellow to
orange to DANGER!!!! RED where you are pretty much defensless say dont you just hate how you

do a move and your friend or the opponent blocks it like nothin well thats all about to change if you do a kamehameha over and over you too will start to be damaged but not to red at least yellow area anyway lets turn the table your opponent is hit by the move but he blocked it this damage wil

go towards his arms so the more he dodges with his arms the more damaged they become to the point were he cant use them or use finishers
one more thing the area you attack will become damaged not just the whole thing and just to be damamged to get to the yellow health bar is stupid it should be more realistic so if i punch

someone in the face hes either bleeding or bruised
Next after the battles done you can see all the damage your character had done to him it will show

a full detailed pic of him and all the damaged points of the body then you have a X-RAY version to see broken bones this would make it feel cool because you could see what kinda battle you had to go through this would also fit somewhere in the story!!!

ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE!!!!!!

Did you ever see a kamehameha hit the ground in the show? well i sure the hell did and when it

does it makes a huge explosion like dome then when the smoke clears it leaves one huga ass
crater in the ground this is determined how powerful your character is kinda like this order

Goku base phuge crater and explosin
goku kao ken x5 more damage to the environment starting to cause huge amounts of damamge
Kao ken x10 huge destructive force up the area
more would be damaged but say you go super saiyan

anhiliation to the area almost the entire area is deastroyed
SSJ2 lightning forming tides over flowing damage is so powerful the beam penetrates earths

atmosphere and causes an unbeliavble amount of destruction
SSJ3 totally wipes out an entire CITY!!!! causes clouds togather lightning and a huge force and a

crater is left the size of 30 parking lots wide and almost reaches the earths core

SSJ4 totall destruction in its path anything environmental is drastically destroyed cities forests etc etc

well you get the point with beams now when you are thrown into a building you will get stuck and or jamed in the outline of it if your smashed hard enough then the result of damage is changed smae goes for the rest of the environment!!!!


NEW TARGETING SYSTEM!!!!!!

Now some may not agree on this thats why i put optional but anyway this is where you will to be a

character and when you choose that person you will of course during battle launch a move for example FRIEZA you use death beam but if you have full power and choose not to do your ultimate

this is where my targetting system comes in you will now go into first person mode and a crossair would go on the screen
you can now choose a spot to aim and fire this could come in handy lets say you decide to fire at there leg there leg will now be damaged

they will then walk or fly very slowly because of the injury so this gives you an advantage over them so now hitting them with finishers would be easier so they cant dodge as much other moves like gokus you would be able to controll the direction of gokus kamehameha if the opponent

dodged it you could make it turn around and try to hit him but this would drain energy so be wise!!!!

BATTLES AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!

this is what most people want you would be able to have up to 6 fighters on the battle field at the same time some say thats impossible but with a new directional change like be able to switch targets and make the environment at least 2x the size it is now will change that an turn impossible to possible

now that this is resolved you can also do double teams and such
you will also be able to give items to your partner like a senzu bean and others in that manner

Well thats all guys my hands are killin me from writing this so please post good comments!!!! thanks to all

[L Lawliet]

This is for discussion, the ideas are on the other thread. ;)

[Minotast]

Ciel is a woman. ;)
Atari sends feedback to the developers.

Yeah like it was my idea of combining Supersonic Warriors and Budokai that created Budokai Tenkaichi.

[MajinElite]

Main Menu

Dragonball Universe(here is where you progress through the storyline an work your way through the life of Goku)
Dragonball:
Emperor Pilaf Saga
First World Martial Arts Championship Saga
Red Ribbon Army Saga
General Blue Saga
Commander Red Saga
Fortune Teller Baba Saga
Tien Shinhan Saga
King Piccolo Saga
Piccolo Jr. Saga
Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle Movie
Dragonball Z:

Bardock: Father of Goku
Dead Zone Movie
Vegeta Saga
World's Strongest Movie
Tree of Might Movie
Lord Slug Movie
Captain Ginyu Saga
Frieza Saga
Cooler's Revenge Movie
Garlic Jr. Saga
Trunks Saga
History of Trunks Movie
Android Saga
Super Android 13 Movie
The Return of Cooler Movie
Imperfect Cell Saga
Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan Movie
Perfect Cell Saga
Cell Games Saga
Bojack Unbound Movie
Great Saiyaman Saga
Broly: Second Coming Movie
World Tournament Saga
Bio-Broly Movie
Babidi Saga
Majin Buu Saga
Fusion Saga
Kid Buu Saga
Fusion Reborn Movie
Wrath of the Dragon Movie
Dragonball GT:

Lost Episode Saga
Baby Saga
Super 17 Saga
Shadow Dragon Saga
Hero's Legacy Movie (if they see Goku Jr. a worthwhile character...i don't, but thats just me)

Pendilum Room(mode where you can raise the teir/power levels of your CAC characters, by playing through available sagas in place of of goku and the z-fighters) if your character is evil alignment, you work with the villians. in this mode there are no story cutscenes. there will be a few parts that weren't in the story mode, just for your CAC. it will start at the beginning of dbz. your character will arrive on earth(in whatever race's space pod you chose, or if you have more than one they will arrive in a ship similar to frieza's. unless your CAC is human). depending on if you made them good, neutral, or bad will effect what happens. if good, goku and the z-fighters will challenge you to a fight to see if you truly are good. if neutral, they'll do the same. in those story lines you will become part of the z team and defend the universe. if evil however, they will defend the earth against your tyranny. if you win you conquer earth then move on to the rest of the galaxy. where you will run into each of the villians from dbz and dbgt. you will also have to fight the heroes that show them selves. future trunks and gohan will try to stop you as well. even the other world fighters. until you rule the galaxy. if you lose the first fight, you will go to hfil where you will train shortly until a wish on the dragonballs brings you back. the person that brings you back will be a cpu generated CAC and its your choice if you want to thank him and pledge your aligence to him or you can kill him. once again you call. then you will have to go through until you rule the galaxy. but this time the z fighters will be alot stronger.

1 Player
Single
Double
2 Player

Offline Game
Online Game

Ultimate Battle Z(pretty much the same as tenkaichi 1 and 2 combined...i like those modes)
World Tournament(same)

Baba'a Tournament(all contestants will be dragonball characters(first prise hardes difficulty: 15,000 zeni))
World Martial Arts Tournament(first prize hardest difficulty: 25,000 zeni)
Cell Games Tournament(first prize hardest difficulty: 50,000 zeni)
Battle Island Tournament(name of the tournament in Bojack Unbound(first prize hardest difficulty: 100,000 zeni))
Other World Tournament(all contestants have halos(first prize hardest difficulty: 125,000 zeni))
Babidi's Tournament(tournament faught inside babidi's spaceship, all opponents will have the majin seal(first prize hardest difficulty: 150,000 zeni))
Dueling

1P vs com
1P vs 2P:
Offline
Online
1P/2P vs com

tag
free-for-all (6 vs 6 maximum)
com vs com
Dueling Mode:

single
double
tag teams
free-for-all
free battle(up to 12 characters)

tag
teams(6 vs 6, or how ever many each player selects)
free-for-all

Battle Options:

announcers
time limit (60, 90, 120, unimited)
transformations/fusions (on/off)
tranformation animation (on/off)
handycap(causes person to teleport automatically in tight situations, and automatically regenerates ki w/o charging)

Z Training

Tutorial
all of the various action tutorials
Practice

like battle but with unlimited health and ki

Evolution Z

Z Item List
Z Item Collection(equip item to characters)
Z Item Fusion(fuse various items for newer and better items)
Password Character(keep your old characters by using their old passwords. Allows total of ten created characters(password and CAC combined))
Input Password
View Password Characters
Create-A-Character (CAC)
Sex (Male, Female, or neither(neither is for races like namekian or psychogre))
Race (Human, Saiyan, Namekian, Psychogre, Android, Chill(freiza's race, i couldn't think of what to call it), Dragon, Demon, Origins Unknown(so you can make an entirely new alien race), Robot, Tuffle, Mixed(pick two races. android can mix with every race no matter what), and Bio-Fighter(which allows you to mix up to four different races, for characters like Cell).
Alignment (Good, Neutral, Evil) which also allows you to pick halos or even majin forms for your character
Blast 1 Moves (choose two from a list already made for the other characters)
Blast 2 Moves (Beam, Volley, Finger, Explosive, or Rush(with the rush attacks you are prompted to name your attack. you are given a list of fifty or so words. each word is tied to an action. so, in naming your attack you pick what it does))
Ultimate Blast (Like the rush attack selection, only it doesn't have to be a rush attack)
Throws (Pick which throw your character uses)
Transformations/Fusions (depending on race it may ask if you would like to add up to five transformations. then you customize each transformation the same way. this also include fusions and potaras between allied CACs)
Allies/Enemies (Choose which CACs are enemy and ally)
Team Attack (Designate allies, you can only pick allies that are CAC. which also determines what they will say to their ally or enemy. the attack would work the same as the rush attack selection, only these words will be tied to team combos)
Appearence (This is where it gets good, you pick skin color(if not pre-selected by race), body type(size:normal, small, large, giant, fat, stretchy), hair design and color, eye type and color, facial features. then costume. you get a variety of saiyan armors, human and namekian clothing, and other alien uniforms. and, if your character happens to be a lackey/henchmen of some kind you can design an emblem/symbol for their suit, so that everyone knows who they work for. it also allows you to swap clothing between races to help avoid seeing the same clothes on other people's CACs. you'd also be able to customize the color of the clothes on your character. pick a voice type(young, old, child, or if they just growl), name of your character. then it will ask if you'd like to write a short backstory/bio on your character.
this is the chart i came up with for the CAC transformation charts. the fusion transformations do not count for your character's transfomations. a total of five can be given to the base character. fusion dance characters can have up to four transformations, and potara fusions can have up to two. if the transformation is into a giant, the transformation is irreversible. keep in mind this is just an example. it doesn't have the max amount of transformations and fusions w/ transformations possible.http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/majin_khail/transformation-1.jpg
and here is the one for transformations into giants. note: this is once again just an example...
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/majin_khail/transformation-2.jpg

Item Shop(buy and sell items for zenny)
Buy Items
Potaras
health items, and other supporting items
CAC Items

Body Types
Hair Types
Facial Features(nose and mouth)
Eyes
Clothing
saiyan armor, human/namekian clothing, etc.
Accessories

scouters, potara earing, weighted wrist bands, etc.

Alternate Clothing(main charcter's alt costumes purchased here)
Sell Items

Potaras

Data Center

Character Bios
Dragon Journal(recap of the life of goku)
Online Friends
friends characters
Available Costumes
Options

Sound
Music
SFX
Voices
Difficulty

Easy
Normal
Hard
Z Mode
Controls
Screen
Save/Load
Mini Games

Hold On (Story Mode, Mini Game mode)
Special Beam Rotate (Story Mode, Mini Game mode)
Whack a bug! (Story Mode, Mini Game mode)
Hide and Seek with Icarus (Story Mode, Mini Game mode)
Insane Racing (Story Mode (Goku VS East Kai),Mini Game mode)
Run Goku, Run! (Story Mode, Mini Game mode)
Capture the Monkey! (Story Mode, Mini Game Mode)
Hades Board Game (Story Mode, Mini Game Mode)
Jan Ken! (Rock Paper Scissors!/Rock Scisscors Paper!)
the explainations for these mini games can be found in vishkugeta's DBZ:tenkaichi3 suggestions forum...thanks Vishkugeta!!
Characters

DB: 34
Kid Goku DBZ (Great Ape)
Kid Krillin
Master Roshi (Full Power)
Kid Chi Chi
Emperor Pilaf
Mai [in the machine]
Shu [in the machine]
Namu
Giran
Teen Yamcha
Bacterian
Man-Wolf
Master Shen
General Blue
Silent Ninja Sergeant Major Purple Murasaki
Mutaito
Demon King Piccolo
Cymbal
Drum
Tambourine
Piccolo Jr.
Metallic
Android #8
Teen Chi Chi
Grandpa Gohan
Akkuman (Devil Man)
Mummy
Mercenary Tao
Robo Mercenary Tao
Demon King Shura
Lucifer


DBZ: 187
Goku (kaioken, SSJ 1, SSJ 2, SSJ3)

Kid Gohan (great ape[R3, left], unlock potential[R3])
Teen Gohan (SSJ 1, SSJ 2)
Adult Gohan (SSJ 1, SSJ 2, Great Saiyaman)
Ultimate Gohan
Piccolo (Fuse w/ Nail, Sync w/ Kami)
Krillin (unlock potential)
Yamcha
Tien
Chiaotzu
Raditz (Great Ape)
Vegeta [I]Saiyan Saga (Great Ape)
Nappa (Great Ape)
Saibamen
Cui
Frieza’s Soldier (alt. Costume can be different race of alien)
Dodoria
Zarbon (Transformed)
Nail
Moori (namekian hero)
Guldo
Recoome
Burter
Jeice
Ginyu
Frieza (2nd, 3rd, Final Form, 100% Final Form)
Mecha Frieza
King Cold
Kid Trunks (SSJ)
Teen Trunks (SSJ)- -capsule corp. t-shirt
Teen Trunks w/ Sword (SSJ)
Adult Trunks (SSJ, SSJU)
Dr. Gero
Android 19
Android 18
Android 17
Android 16
Android 15
Android 14
Android 13 (Super Android 13)
Cell (Imperfect Form, Perfect Form, Super Perfect Form, Powered Weighted Perfect Form)
Cell Jr.
Vegeta Android Saga (SSJ, SSJU)
Goten (SSJ)
Supreme Kai
Kabito
Majin Vegeta
Demon King Dabura (Meditated)
Yamu
Spopovich
Yakon
Pui Pui
Majin Buu
Majin Buu (Pure Evil)
Super Buu (Power Weighted(buff form))
Super Buu (Piccolo Absorbed, Gotenks Absorbed, Ultimate Gohan Absorbed)
Kid Buu
Uub (Majuub)
Hercule
Videl (Great Saiyaman #2)
Garlic Jr. (Max Power)
Mustard
Vinegar (Max Power)
Salt
Spice (Max Power)
Ginger (Max Power)
Sansho (Max Power)
Nicky (Max Power)
Bardock (Great Ape)
Kanassain - -Alien that gave Bardock Special Powers
Toma (Great Ape)
Borgus (Great Ape)
Sugesh (Great Ape)
Fasha (Great Ape)
King Vegeta (Great Ape)
Kid Vegeta (Great Ape)
Kami
Dr. Wheelo
Misokatsun
Kishime
Ebifurya
Turles (Great Ape)
Rezun
Lakasei
Daizu
Amond
Cacao
Lord Slug (Giant Slug)
Slug’s Soldier (alt. costumes can be helmet and no helmet)
Commander Zeeun - -Slug killed him
Commander Dorodabo - -Piccolo killed him
Angila
Medamatcha
Cooler (Final Form)
Salza
Doore
Neiz
Meta Cooler
Meta Cooler’s Cyclopean Guard
Broly (mind controlled SSJ, free will SSJ, Legendary Super Saiyan)
Kid Broly SSJ
Bio-Broly (Giant Bio-Broly)
Bio-Warrior (alt. costumes can be different colors of warriors)
Paragus (Great Ape) - -Broly’s Father
Paragus’s Soldier (alt. costumes can be different races of alien)
Bojack (Transformed)
Kogu (Transformed)
Bujin
Bido
Zangya
Janempa (Janemba)
Hirudegarn (Transformed)
Minotia - -Tapion’s little brother
Tapion
Pikkon
Arqua
Chapuchai
Froug
Maraikoh


DBGT: 38
Kid Goku GT (SSJ, SSJ 3, SSJ 4)

Vegeta GT (SSJ 2, SSJ 4)
Adult Goten (SSJ)
Pan
Nezi
Ribet
Bizu
Bon Para
Don Para
Son Para
Luud
Mutchy Mutchy
Lord Don Kee
General Rildo (Rildo 1, Rildo 2)
Baby - -like when he fought Goten
Baby Vegeta (Baby 1, Baby 2, Great Ape Baby Vegeta)
Super 17
Nova Shenron
Ice Shenron
Haze Shenron
Rage Shenron (Giant Rage Shenron)
Oceanus Shenron (Dragon Form)
Naturon Shenron
Syn Shenron (Omega Shenron)


Character Fusions: 11
Pilaf/Mai/Shu (Machine Fusion)

Nezi/Ribet/Bizu (Sigma Cannon)
Vegito (SSJ)
Kabitoshin
Gotenks (SSJ, SSJ 2, SSJ 3)
SSJ Gogeta
SSJ4 Gogeta


What if characters: 16
Frieza Fourth Form - -Form Cooler Achieves in Cooler’s Revenge

Cooler (1st, 2nd, 3rd Forms)
Bulla
Chi Chi
Gokule
Tiencha
Adult Gotenks (SSJ, SSJ 2, SSJ 3)
Kid Pan
Mighty Mask
One armed Gohan (SSJ)
Fighting Engine Ideas

One on One fights
done pretty much the same
One on Team fights

fights between one character and two or more people
at the beginning of the game these battles will be rare. but when they occur the opponents won't attack at the same time. this help you build up your skill in the multi battles as you progress through the game. as the game goes on the multi battles become more and more detailed/technical.
Team on One fights

done the same as a single but in this mode you can invite a friend to help you fight
Team Attacks

when both/all allies are locked on to the same target, they are given the option of a team attack, if both/all allies meet requirements to do the attack(L2, left, triangle). *for examples of team attacks:http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8898042&postcount=3338 (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8898042&postcount=3338)
Team Defending

when your team mate is in a tight spot you can lock onto your ally. when the enemy goes to attack your ally, you are given the chance to "defend" them. by doing this you can teleport in the way and intercept the attack. or if the opponent is using a ball attack(like the eraser cannon or big bang attack) you can fire a blast to deflect it away. or if the foe shoots a beam attack(kamehameha or galick gun) you teleport to your ally, grab them and teleport back to your original location. these commands are given as such...it only occurs when you are locked on to your ally. to make it more challenging the button combinations will change each time. the first time maybe it'll be L3 and square. but maybe the next it'll be L3 and triangle. thats to keep it from becoming repetitive.
Hand-offs

lock onto an ally and give them your item(senzu bean, potara, or whatever). this will also help for fusion with the potaras and for the fusion dance. both team members will have to hit L2, triangle, L3, and R3, for fusions. to hand off a senzu bean you press down on the L3 button while locked on to the team member.Ghosting

when both characters are at max power mode and rush each other, instead of the punching frenzy, it could be a "mirage battle". both characters disappear, then reapear and both characters are attacking each other(like in the bojack unbound when gohan and bojack are exchanging blows, but all we see is the impact circles. only in this mode we can see the characters). i figure don't mess with a system that already works so to win you rotate the analog. this ghosting mode will last for 10 seconds unless the characters are matching blow for blow then it will last up to 15. when you're in this mode the characters will automatically teleport anywhere in the arena.Blast Catch

when the character does the special block(the one involving block and the ki button) when an attack like the spirit bomb or big bang attack(huge energy balls) the character will "catch" the attack. then you rotate the analog to see if you have the power to push the attack back. this technique should only be used by characters who are average to larger size. smaller characters(like guldo, kid gohan, kid goku gt, pan, etc.) will not be able too. for beam attacks, like the kamehameha, galick gun, masenko, full power energy beam, etc., some characters can "push" through the attacks. like cooler did in the cooler's revenge movie. the larger charcters(Cooler, Broly[LSS], Bojack [Transformed], Kogu [Transformed], and other "tank" characters can take the hit, which will actually just flow around them, as if it weren't even there. another example is in the Broly: Legendary Super Saiyan movie. when goku shoots a kamehameha into Broly's face after the "smoke clears" Broly stands there unharmed. it should be something like that.Leveling/Powering Up

you level up by entering the Pendilum Room Mode. you play through the story mode with a CAC. or you can use the main characters. as you progress through you gain experience points. typically like an rpg. each naturally earned level gives you a "Z-Point"(similar to Budokai 3). its your decision on where you put that Z-Point. the catagories are:
Health: how many health bars you will have. a total of 50 Z-Points can be equiped here. giving you ten bars of health. character starts with one bar. so each z-point is worth 1/5 of a health bar.
Ki: how many ki bars are available for your charcter to use. once again it equals a total of 50 z-points. giving you ten. each is 1/5 a ki bar. your character already starts with one full bar.
Reserve Ki: determines how many blast one stock you have. a total of 10 can be reached. though you automatically start with 3. a total of 7 z-points are spent here. most fusions and higher transformations require 3 or more. this way your characters aren't reaching max transformation right away. you may have a super transformation equiped to your character, but you won't be able to transform until you reach the number of blast stocks for it. so its like working really hard to acheive the next transformation.
Attack: determines how much damage your physical attacks(kicking and punching) do. your punches start at 50 damage per hit, and when maxed out each punch does 250 damage. 50 z-points can be spent to increase it. therefore each z-point is worth 5 damage.
Attack Ki: this increases the amount of damge dealt by your blast 2 attacks. the starting damage amount for your first(L2, triangle) is 1,500. then at max it will do 10,000. a total of 50 z-points can be spent. each z-point is worth 170 damage. your second(L2, triangle, up) does 5,000 damage. at max it will do 15,000. making each point for the second worth 300 damage points. then the ultimate starts at 12,000 damage. and at max will do 22,000 damage. each point is worth 440 damage in this catagory. that should be right...if my math is correct. and the team attacks do what your ultimate does but then an additional 20%.
Defense: exactly like attack, only kinda backwards. each strike to your character while not blocking is the full 50 damage at first. at the lowest when you character blocks only 30 damage will be done. your defense blocks 40% of the damage. and at max you will block 60% damage. a total of 50 z-points are spent here. each point is worth 2.5%...i think. that can't be right. if anyone know send me a pm about that and i'll change it. ciz i know i'm wrong there.
Speed: 50 are spent here. your speed is already at 50% its max. so each z-point here is worth 10% of your base speed.
Ki Sense: the more you increase this the faster you can lock onto your opponents. total of 50 z-points(big suprise) can be spent here. when it is maxed out you can lock onto your opponents through objects. by doing this you eliminate one of the useless potaras that just take up slots for your character.
Transformations: this option gives you the chance to unlock your transformations, so that you can use them when your Reserve Ki is a high enough level. 50 points are spent here as well. if your character has the max of five transformations. for every 10 z-points you earn one of your transformations.
Max Level: max level your character can be is lvl. 350. but even after your character has reached their max level your power level can continue to go up if you equip potaras like health +15 or anything like that. it won't effect your physical level but your power level can continue to grow.Over the course of the game you may find Z-Points. these do not mean you gain a level. they just give you a free z-point to spend. these are located in places like Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Guru's House, Grandpa Gohan's. there are also a few hidden throughout the dragonball universe. you may also recieve them as rewards for side missions and mini games.

Credits to:

Lightning
Kamiccolo33
SS4 Broly
MajinHyuga
Mystic Gohan
SSJ5Vegeta_Ver3
Majin Trunks
dboy1373
theking
vegetabeatsgoku
Zellgadis
vishkugeta
Real DBZ Master
jurehumar
megamonk4
Epyon
Conners
Broly LegendSSJ
dbz#1
MajinElite

[helsing1]

I like MajinElite´s ideas. specialy in the CAC, and the item shop.

[Kamiccolo33]

DBZ#1, there are some really cool effects you have there in your suggestion post. I really hope they make it like that. I especially like the clip from the beginning of the Final Bout game where Gohan does a power up burst, and the one where he does that devastating attack. We can only hope buddy. They must listen to us.

Majin Elite, cool ideas, but this is the discussion thread.

What you said about instead of a punching frenzy they should do the mirage battle, I think that's a good idea, but there needs to be a way to incorporate both, because I like the punching frenzy. Maybe:

Mirage Battle
When you rush at each other then you enter the mirage battle. Both characters will disappear and start teleporting so fast you cant see them, and all you will see is the hit explosions, those big white circles. The camera will keep turning and moving to try and keep track of the fight.

To win the sequence, there will be 7 big waves in the mirage battle, and you have to press any button at the exact right time the explosion goes off, so it's like a quick reaction test, whoever is fastest will get the hit in. Now, I know you'll say, why not just mash the button? If you mash the button too much you won't win. The one to lose the most out of 7 hits gets damages and you see him appear and fly out of the sky.

Fist Flurry
This is the same as in Tenkaichi 2, however you must both execute a heavy blow at the same time to trigger this sequence.



Well, tell me what you think and I'll put it in my suggestion document that I'll be posting soon. Credit will go to Majin Eliteas well of course.

[123456]

Those sound sweet Kamiccolo33

dbz#1, that's a massive amount of pics that take up like 1/2 the page, just putting them as hyper links would be very helpful, I do agree with the ideas you posted though

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Mirage Battle as you call it, is already in my part 2, so I agree on you there.

[Conners]

So, what do you guys think of the ideas I posted?

[SS4Trunks]

how about an adult gotenks?

[Majin Trunks]

No. I clearly state NO. Not going to happen. No.

[VBG]

What is the point of an adult Gotenks. Except looks and voice he wouldn't be any different.

[Minotast]

What is the point of an adult Gotenks. Except looks and voice he wouldn't be any different.

The point is with the purpose. Adult Gotenks simply serves as the definite purpose of having an Adult Goten and Trunks. The two still have the ability to fuse, which was denied from participating. But they still could and it would only serve in the interest of those that thought GT could have been better.

[morgan2042]

hey Teen_Gohan666:), welcome to the forums. ok some of your idea's are alright. but i have to disagree with turles super saiyan levels. turles could never reach super saiyan, sure he's powerful. think about between nappa and vegeta power level, turles is right in the middle of both them. he is strong, but cannot beat vegeta. one more thing, NO AFs means no super saiyan level 5,6 or 7.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Yeah, I think almost everyone here agree on that AF is bringing shame over Dragonball, yeah, even GT. They better not put AF characters in, or else they will probably lose a lot of customers.

[Minotast]

Yeah, I think almost everyone here agree on that AF is bringing shame over Dragonball, yeah, even GT. They better not put AF characters in, or else they will probably lose a lot of customers.

I don't think AF really would be entirely a shame. But I do think that it would be a little bit too much in having so many more SSJ transformations and useless fusions between villains.

But I don't think SSJ Raditz, SSJ Bardock, SSJ Nappa, SSJ3 Vegetto, and SSJ3 Gogeta would bring shame to DBZ/GT.

[morgan2042]

it will be a shame. seriously SSJ Raditz, SSJ Bardock, SSJ Nappa, no way. i wouldn't even buy the game. SSJ3 Vegetto, and SSJ3 Gogeta i dont know maybe.

[Minotast]

it will be a shame. seriously SSJ Raditz, SSJ Bardock, SSJ Nappa, no way. i wouldn't even buy the game. SSJ3 Vegetto, and SSJ3 Gogeta i dont know maybe.

Well that'll be just minus one over-reactive costumer. I think Atari will do fine without you buying their merchandise.

Certainly this attraction will be available in what-if stories and therefore shouldn't be a problem for anyone since it isn't a part of the true storymode, just a side-branch.

Also... why not have Raditz become an SSJ in a what-if story alternative where he is able to continually train with Goku? Don't you think the brother of Goku (main character of the freaking series) deserves a bigger role than to just be seen in three to five episodes? For goodness sakes, he is the freaking brother of the main character in the entire series DB-DBGT.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

His powerlever was higher due to him being his big brother and because of that he had lived on planet Vegeta with a higher gravity. Raditz was a low class warrior, just like Goku. However, Goku had a far greater potential than Raditz. Vegeta stated himself that Goku was something special. No matter how hard he trained, Goku would always surpass him.

Raditz would not necessarily have gotten stronger. This is a line from the manga "You haven't reached your full power yet, but we need you with us" Raditz said to Goku. Therefore Raditz did apparently believe that he had already reached his maximum potential. The maximum potential of a low class warrior that is.

The legend says that once a thousand years, a legendary super saiyan will be born. Goku is that legend, so is Broly as he was born at the same day. Later on this legend was proved to be false as Vegeta turned into a Super Saiyan himself. However, Raditz is simply a random saiyan. It does not matter that he had the genes of Bardock. It was not his purpose becoming a super saiyan at all. I think Akira Toriyama did wrong in making Super Saiyan forms for Goten and Trunks. Before it was something extremely powerful, but then it somehow turned into a form for every saiyan...which is wrong. Only a very few saiyans have the ability to turn Super Saiyan, and it should stay that way. We got enough of them already:up:
That is why. And I do also agree with Morgan. Bringing AF to the game will lower the quality, not raise it. Why should they spend time on creating characters that most people do not even want to be in the game?;)

[morgan2042]

thank you SSJ5Vegeta_Ver3

[Minotast]

That is why. And I do also agree with Morgan. Bringing AF to the game will lower the quality, not raise it. Why should they spend time on creating characters that most people do not even want to be in the game?;)

Oh come on. Vegeta, Trunks, Kid Trunks, Goten, and Gohan all attained SSJ status. The Super Saiyan legend is nothing more than a myth. SSJ would have existed without such a legend.

Also, you are just another over-reactive costumer. You've got no evidence. I'm not even going to call that quote in your post "evidence," because all of it was easily just assumptions and vaguely credited information.

Honestly, you have no idea as to what you are talking about. Do you know anything about sales and merchandise? Do you, honestly?

You are just following your own highly over-analyzed opinion of what would occur. I'm telling you this and now, since I made BT a reality. It would not hurt to have SSJ Raditz, since there are more people that like or don't care about Raditz than there are those that dislike Raditz entirely.

I'm sorry that you absolutely hate Raditz, but please don't consider you and your minority to be in the majority of DBZ fans. You are just two people. Give it a rest. Before you piss me off and give Dread a migraine as a result.

[helsing1]

I think that new transformations is a good idea... to change a little... they could put new transformations in a CAC mode, for example.

[VBG]

Well that'll be just minus one over-reactive costumer. I think Atari will do fine without you buying their merchandise.

Certainly this attraction will be available in what-if stories and therefore shouldn't be a problem for anyone since it isn't a part of the true storymode, just a side-branch.

Also... why not have Raditz become an SSJ in a what-if story alternative where he is able to continually train with Goku? Don't you think the brother of Goku (main character of the freaking series) deserves a bigger role than to just be seen in three to five episodes? For goodness sakes, he is the freaking brother of the main character in the entire series DB-DBGT.

That is why Budokai 2 was the best DBZ game ever, RIGHT?:o

[Minotast]

I think that new transformations is a good idea... to change a little... they could put new transformations in a CAC mode, for example.

I agree that it wouldn't hurt, because you could swing in more Raditz fans and other people due to the relationship between Raditz and Goku. Raditz is Goku's brother, he deserves more than just a few appearances in the series.

That is why Budokai 2 was the best DBZ game ever, RIGHT?:o

Thanks for taking us off-topic and what does B2 have to do with anything? All they did was make a board game out of the storymode with still just a small part for Raditz. You are going off topic and making no sense of what I have just said. Are you just playing mind games with me or something? Give it a rest.

Also besides the low score and ratings, there were a lot of people that like B2, because of the new graphics and better gameplay.

[VBG]

Actually Budokai 2 was the one with all of these what if transformations. That is why I mentioned Budokai 2...

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Oh come on. Vegeta, Trunks, Kid Trunks, Goten, and Gohan all attained SSJ status. The Super Saiyan legend is nothing more than a myth. SSJ would have existed without such a legend. Yeah, we already got way too many of them. Akira Toriyama did a mistake by giving Super Saiyan forms to Goten and Trunks.

Also, you are just another over-reactive costumer. You've got no evidence. I'm not even going to call that quote in your post "evidence," because all of it was easily just assumptions and vaguely credited information.Who said I was talking about evidence? The facts in the quote is true enough. AF is not part of the Dragonball universe. I am not an over-reactive costumer, I do simply not want them to spend time on something most people consider as trash. Most people do think that AF suck. So give it a break, there will not be AF characters (Maybe except Tiencha and Gokule) :)

Honestly, you have no idea as to what you are talking about. Do you know anything about sales and merchandise? Do you, honestly? Actually I do. Just take a look around you. People do not want AF to be in the game. It would just bother the developers. They do already have enough to do as it is:o "Why make something most people do not want?" is the question to ask yourself. You cannot take your own opinion and just blow away everyone else.

You are just following your own highly over-analyzed opinion of what would occur. I'm telling you this and now, since I made BT a reality. It would not hurt to have SSJ Raditz, since there are more people that like or don't care about Raditz than there are those that dislike Raditz entirely.Yes, it would. First of all it would strike the developers that would have to create them. Secondly, fans would be mad at them for including such trash into the game. Thirdly, large words ain't going to change the fact that AF is fanmade and utterly pathetic.

I'm sorry that you absolutely hate Raditz, but please don't consider you and your minority to be in the majority of DBZ fans. You are just two people. Give it a rest. Before you piss me off and give Dread a migraine as a result.Okay, I tried to be nice, but now I just got to laugh. I do not hate Raditz, I hate AF. You are the minority and the majority of DBZ fans do NOT want AF. I wonder if you believe in what you are saying right now. If you had known just a tiny bit about DBZ fans, then you would have known that most of them dislike AF as well. And just btw, Marby has already made his point clear about that AF should not be in the game. I do not think someone like Dreadnaught would consider AF as relevant either. Sorry, you have lost to the majority:p If you do still not believe me, create a thread in the GC and name it "Do you think that AF is good?". I do already know the results, but it seems like you will find it out the hard way..

And also. When we are at the What If subject. It would be nice to have an evil version of Goku. Of course just an alternate outfit, but still.. Here is a picture:
http://www.radicchio.it/dragonball/entra/img10.jpg

[Minotast]

Actually Budokai 2 was the one with all of these what if transformations. That is why I mentioned Budokai 2...

It had what-if fusions and Buu Absorbtions. I don't think there were any what-if transformations.

Also, I've heard that a lot of people like the what-if fusions. You do often hear people suggesting the return of Tiencha.

BLAH BLAH BLAH
[/LEFT]

Don't speak on my part.

BTW, I find it ironic that someone who calls himself SSJ5Vegeta would dislike AF material.

[VBG]

What is the point of a what-if SSJ Raditz anyway. Except as an extra character will their be any use.

He doesn't have any known moves so they will probably strap on some crap rushes and an energy wave to him.

[Minotast]

What is the point of a what-if SSJ Raditz anyway. Except as an extra character will their be any use.

He doesn't have any known moves so they will probably strap on some crap rushes and an energy wave to him.

Whatever you say, fascist. :p

I know it is quite a disappointment in trying to reason with you. :haha:

[SSJ5Vegeta]

The majority has spoken. Sorry :p

[Minotast]

The majority has spoken. Sorry :p

What majority? It is a freaking tie. There are two people that dislike the idea and two that don't oppose the idea. :p There is also one mad maniac (Morgan) that doesn't count, because he just said he isn't going to buy anymore DBZ games.

Also you don't count either, since you are immature for someone to make a debate.

I think that new transformations is a good idea... to change a little... they could put new transformations in a CAC mode, for example.

And that's the other guy that doesn't oppose the SSJ Raditz idea.

Therefore, it is really two that don't oppose the idea and one that does with two others that were disqualified on being too immature to represent anyone except those that are too young to buy the game.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

He is pointing towards a create-a-character mode, not a SSJ Raditz O.o Also, the majority of the board is against you. Just create a thread and name it "Do you think that AF is good?" in the DBZ GC. It won't be a tie, I promise you that ;)

[VBG]

Wait, I will make a thread. Then we can settle it there.

[morgan2042]

this is why AF shouldn't be discuss because its pointless, and it shouldn't be in anybody ideas. end of discussion, move on

[Minotast]

The tree stooges everyone. Give them all a round of applause. LOL!

Curly = Morgan
Larry = Third version of AFVegeta
Moe = The one smart one of the three, vegetabeatsgoku.

[2shakhur]

A sample concept leaked from the new dragonball called the black seed saga...
This takes place before Goku's time
I believe the characters name is Govitenks
There was a another link I can't remember,
there was an image on an entire army of fused saiyanjins. Production begins in 2009
http://images.imagefap.com/images/full/25/164/1641084497.jpg

[Minotast]

A sample concept leaked from the new dragonball called the black seed saga...
This takes place before Goku's time
I believe the characters name is Govitenks
There was a another link I can't remember,
there was an image on an entire army of fused saiyanjins. Production begins in 2009
http://images.imagefap.com/images/full/25/164/1641084497.jpg

Hmm... sounds interesting... maybe I'll have a chance to see sometime. :haha:

Honestly, we were talking about DBZ alternative what-if stories, not new sagas and crap like that.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

The tree stooges everyone. Give them all a round of applause. LOL!

Curly = Morgan
Larry = Third version of AFVegeta
Moe = The one smart one of the three, vegetabeatsgoku.

Excuse me, but are you asking for trouble?:o

[Minotast]

Excuse me, but are you asking for trouble?:o

;) Trouble is my middle-name, sweetheart. :haha:

[VBG]

Off Topic: I thought you got banned Minotast... Now you have no warning points...

[Minotast]

Off Topic: I thought you got banned Minotast... Now you have no warning points...

That's because I am best friends with some of the people on Atari. They gave me immunity, because they found me invaluable.

[VBG]

They let you back yet Dread cant't let SG3 back. These mods are a mystery.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

That's because I am best friends with some of the people on Atari. They gave me immunity, because they found me invaluable.
Well, if that it is the case, then it is plain wrong. Those who are banned should stay banned if there aren't anything going against it.

[VBG]

No, I think people should have a second chance...

They should let him back but with a few warning points...

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Yeah, that was not what I meant. I mean just that people should not get unbanned just because they are "friends" with a moderator.

[VBG]

Ok.

Did you read one person wrote that their should be a Turles, SSJ 1,2,3,4,5,6,7.

And I thought raditz ssj... This is absolutely crazy. Turles SSJ 7...

[SSJ5Vegeta]

No, but that is just ridiculous. Oh well, I guess we will have to get back on topic :D

[morgan2042]

insane, out of control levels. its to much nonsense.

[Conners]

Power Level System

On the subject of power level systems, I was working on one of the most accurate of all (or at least it seems so). It's very confusing, and I haven't had time to work it out, but the basic idea is:

OK, say you have Vegeta, PL 18,000, V.S Hercule, PL 48. Hercule's stats are:
Attack: 1
Defence: 1
Speed: 1
Etcetera: 1

While Vegeta's become:
Attack: 99
Defence: 99
Speed: 99
Etcetera: 99 ((Note that 99 is the maximum for stats.))

When Vegeta fights Frieza (PL 530,000), however, his stats become:
Attack: 1
Defence: 1
Speed: 1
Etcetera: 1

Like Hercule's.

The point of this system is comparison. If you fight someone a million times stronger than you, your stats are pathetic. If you pummel someone weaker than you, your stats are fantastic. Here's an idea of how the difference would be judged:

Saiko has a PL of 1,000. She fights Miko who has a PL of 1,400. Saiko's stats are:
Attack: 3
Defence: 3
Speed: 3
Etcetera: 3

vs. stats of:

Attack: 5
Defence: 5
Speed: 5
Etcetera: 5

This is because Miko is two Strength Levels above Saiko. Strength Levels judge the difference between opponents -- the stronger ones have every stat increased by an amount equal to the number of Strength Levels they have over their enemy. You get Strength Levels over your opponent by having a certain amount of power more than him/her.
With the fight with Saiko and Miko, 200 was the required amount to have a Strength Level over Saiko, for example.

********* ********* ********* ******* ********

Now, two opponents with the same PL (1,000) fight. Both have stats of:
Attack: 3
Defence: 3
Speed: 3
Etcetera: 3

Now two Hercules Fight (PL 48). Stats are:
Attack: 1
Defence: 1
Speed: 1
Etcetera: 1

The reason for this is that naturally low levelled characters (like Hercule) have a low Base Level for stats, while a powerful character (like SSJ4 Vegeto) would have a very high Base Level (to a maximum of 99). The Base Level is what all stat differences are based off (as the name would imply). A character with one Strength level over another, would have all stats go over his Power Category's Base Level by one.

Whenever a character gets to a certain power level, their Power Category goes up. At this event, the character's Base Level goes up by one, and his opponents need to have an even larger gap in power for them to have a Strength Level over that character. So, anyone want to give feedback for my power level system?

[SSJ5Vegeta]

I remember I saw it a while back in time. I think it is a bit flawed. There won't be a point in training your character if the stats are always going to get affected by the opponent. I think they should rather just set a custom level for every character you will face in the story mode. After that you will have to work at every character in order to level them up. No need to make it more complicated than it needs to be ;)

[Conners]

I remember I saw it a while back in time. I think it is a bit flawed. There won't be a point in training your character if the stats are always going to get affected by the opponent. I think they should rather just set a custom level for every character you will face in the story mode. After that you will have to work at every character in order to level them up. No need to make it more complicated than it needs to be ;) That might be true, but it seems un-different from just fighting someone stronger then you in general (like a level 20 against a level 76).

I was trying for a realistic system that matched the show. How well would you say it fulfills that purpose?

[SSJ5Vegeta]

6/10 maybe ;) It is not bad, but it also not the best solution:up:

[Broly LegendSSJ]

@ Majin Elite

wow really great suggestionlist. I like your ideas! :up: Keep it up !

[Kamiccolo33]

I'm liking what I'm seeing so far in the new suggestion thread. There are some really passionate ideas there.

But it seems somebody has already seemed to muck it up by posting an off topic comment in there about where to get perfect cell or something like that. Hope it gets deleted! :)

[Broly LegendSSJ]

I'm liking what I'm seeing so far in the new suggestion thread. There are some really passionate ideas there.

That´s right, man. I like that thread, too. It was a really great idea by Marby to start a "one-post-only-suggestion-thread"! :up:

[123456]

SSJ7? XD ROFL

I agree with most of Omids post, make everyone move/punch/fire blasts much faster. But even if the levels are 10x bigger, blue ray still wont be that necessary (And even if it was, what if it's multi platform?)

And you say the BT games have thee worst gameplay? Do you really want to go back to a 2D landscape with cancel combos? The ability to move in a full 3D environment is a far greater experience IMO

[morgan2042]

i do not want to see a 2d landscape either. it 's still cool in budokai 3, but come on 3d view, flying every where. cancel combos are cool, but i couldn't do cancel combos that much budokai games. it was diffcult.

f
i look through everyone idea's. some very cool ideas, but one thing is missing. MUSIC. noone likes some of the music that is in BT2. am i right. there is one option, the developers could do:

OPTION:music: Gatebreaker-save-yes/no
crisis
Lost courage
go ahead
little light
power rush
Break through

to save the music you like in BT3, without going through the list everytime you play the game. including story, tournament, 2player and ultimate battle.

anybody could used this idea in the next thread, if they want to or not.:D

[Marby]

how do we use edit button?
By pressing one of these 2 buttons:

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/images/buttons/edit.gif

or:

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/images/darktheme/buttons/edit.gif

They are located on the right side of your screen next to the quote button. ;)

EDIT: Now why did you deleted that post, helsing1. :p

[VBG]

If you made the post then you can click the edit button on the bottom right hand side of the post.

Edit: Damn, Marby you beat me to it. Always out there aren't you...

[Lightning]

Yeah, he beat me to it as well! :rolleyes:

[helsing1]

Thanks Marby! I now Know how to use the edit button. I´ve just finished doing it. I deleted that message because I am here for a while and I should be able to do it now, its embarissing. :) I didnt knew that we could only use it after we post... if someone posts after me, Im not able to use edit button no more, right? That means that in the ideas thread I cant change my idea... right?
Hey vegetabeatsgoku, dont you think that teen gohan with goku´s costume and future gohan should be in the game?

[VBG]

I do think that there should be a future Gohan. As a costume at least as a character he would be cool also.

Teen Gohan saiyan armor would be cool.

[Majin Trunks]

Teen Gohan costumes:

Piccolo Outfit with Cape
Piccolo Outfit, No Cape
Goku's Costume
Saiyan Armor
During the Cell saga, when he and Goku went fishing, the white shirt.[Seen in B1]

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Hi everyone! I thought on bringing up some comparison photos. Just to see how much that can be improved in terms of graphics:)

Nr. 1

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/SSJ5VegetaV2/Broly.jpg

Important to improve:
- Colors
- Shadows
- Outer lines (Thin)
- Facial Expressions
- Hair
- Overall shape and depth

More pictures to come:D

[morgan2042]

ok i can agree the broly on the left is so much better:up: . detail should be first, the other broly on the right ,dark lines are way too much:down: . looks like it was drawn on paper, color and scaned on the computer.:sour:

[Broly LegendSSJ]

as for bardock...i'm really not sure. i guess i'd have to say no because bardock kicks ass anyway...
bardock should, instead of a ssj form, have a non bandanna form and a bandanna form. the non bandanna form is obviously his normal state while the bandanna form is him really pissed off after his friends die (the bandanna's red comes from his dead friends' blood). but then when i think like that...bardock could become a ssj with that kind of anger...whatever, im still saying no ssj.

and also i just thought of this. i havnt played BT2 far enough to know but does Turles have a "eat fruit of tree of might" form? because if he doesn't BT3 should have it. without that form, Turles will seem too much of a minor character (even if he sort of is).

I like that ideas very much. A alternative to SSJ Bardock and SSJ Turles. A great idea.

What do u think about it?

[SSJ5Vegeta]

I can actually agree on that. Far better than SSJ, since that is actually true. You could have Bardock do something like this:
*Bardock looks at bandana covered with blood* "Tora, Fasha, Borgos, shugesh!" *He ties it around his head* "Hmm.." *Looks at opponent* REVENGE! *Aura explodes*

[Kamiccolo33]

Teen Gohan costumes:

Piccolo Outfit with Cape
Piccolo Outfit, No Cape
Goku's Costume
Saiyan Armor
During the Cell saga, when he and Goku went fishing, the white shirt.[Seen in B1]

Get ready for my super suggestion document that will be posted soon. It has has all of Adult Gohan's outfits and a few other character's complete wardrobe.

Hi everyone! I thought on bringing up some comparison photos. Just to see how much that can be improved in terms of graphics:)

Nr. 1

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/SSJ5VegetaV2/Broly.jpg

Important to improve:
- Colors
- Shadows
- Outer lines (Thin)
- Facial Expressions
- Hair
- Overall shape and depth

More pictures to come:D

I totally agree with you. They need to make them look way more like the anime. I would really love to see T3 with graphics like this. It would be the fan's ultimate dream!!!

[Majin Trunks]

Wasn't this for discussion of the suggestions made to the 1-post thread and not suggestion thread?

[Kamiccolo33]

Wasn't this for discussion of the suggestions made to the 1-post thread and not suggestion thread?

You're right. This is only going to get as cluttered and big as the last one. We should really keep it to the discussion of the suggestions made on the other thread. Thanks for the reminder.

[helsing1]

Did everybody posted in the 1-post thread?

[Broly LegendSSJ]

I can actually agree on that. Far better than SSJ, since that is actually true. You could have Bardock do something like this:
*Bardock looks at bandana covered with blood* "Tora, Fasha, Borgos, shugesh!" *He ties it around his head* "Hmm.." *Looks at opponent* REVENGE! *Aura explodes*

That´s it SSJ5Vegeta_Ver3, really cool. :up:

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Kamiccolo Ideas Feedback

You have really put a lot of effort into this document. First I thought that there was going to be a lot of images when it had 56 pages, but surprisingly enough, it nearly had none.

Layout:
You choose to make it with a black background and an orange frame around the text. I am not so fond of the frame, as it pushes the text far too much to the right. It also looks quite boring with no pictures and just orange colored headlines. I know this can be improved;)
Rated: 6/10

Story Mode:
You decided to take away the RPG part and replace it with cutscenes. You also wrote that every character would have their own story line. I am not sure if this would work. They need to follow the main story line, or else it would had been very confusing. I also do not think cutscenes alone will be enough. They might have failed on creating a good RPG so far, but I think they should give it another attempt. This time they should however make it a lot more flexible. Take a look at part 5 of my project when it releases, for more information:up:
Rated: 7/10

Ultimate Mode:
First of all, you included Arcade in Ultimate Mode? It doesn't exactly fit into this mode in my opinion. The Survival Mode is also quite non-flexible as you will only fight generic characters. The Ultimate Mode set up is pretty bad to be honest. You missed out the normal under modes as well:downcast:
Rated: 6/10

Versus Mode:
It sounds a bit corny with Versus Mode. Duel is a lot better IMO. Once again the mode is a bit flawed. You wrote that there would be 4 players at the battlefield at once. This is not possible as the fighting engine is not made for fighting several opponents. It would also have to be a 4-split screen which would not exactly match a 20" TV;)
Rated: 6/10

Tournament Mode:
I think that it contains all the necessary tournaments, but it could have been described a lot better. I miss the excitement and relevant information such as prizes and difficulty settings. Otherwise it is fine:up:
Rate: 7/10

Training Mode:
The first thing I noticed was that you sort of included the Build-Up mode in this mode. That is not a good thing. Traning Mode is for getting to learn the basics and practise your skills. It got nothing to do with building your character.
Rated: 6/10

Capsule Shop:
One of the bad things about creating all ideas at once, is that you won't think through them properly. As an instance, you wrote that you get all the ability capsules through the story mode. This means that you will not have the option of buying upgrades to the moves and such. It will take away much of the buying pleasure. You do also not buy Costume Capsules. You buy alternate outfits. Mini Games should however get unlocked through the story mode. Level Capsules are not directly good either. They should just be random exclusive capsules popping up.
Rated: 5/10

Edit Capsules:
Obviously an attempt on replacing the Evolution-Z mode. I think you missed out pretty much everything it would include. Sorry:p
Rated: 3/10

Minigames:
These should in my opinion be part of an other mode, but that is just my opinion. You got most of them covered, but some might be a bit unnecessary.
Rated: 9/10

Library Z:
Letting it have a more exclusive title such as Capsule Corp. would be nice. This place should have a lot more to offer than what you mentioned.
Rated: 5/10

Options:
It is utterly lacking. You intend to write very much on each point, but the value of the information is not worth that much.
Rated: 5/10

Sound and Music:
There are just way too much text to read. You will have to get to the point a lot quicker. You are right in what you are saying, but it just isn't relevant to your ideas. It is more of an article than a suggestion list at some points. Keep it short and cool, is my advice:D But when you first get to the ideas, there are a lot of good ones. They aren't bad at all, they just need some cuts here and there.
Rated: 8/10

Battle Syetem and Looks:
There are many good ideas in this set up, but again it is drowning in all the redundant information. Arenas and such are a bit unrealistic, but as said, I agree on very much of it. Good job!
Rated: 8/10

Powerlevel System:
I do not agree on much of this. There should be actual powerlevels, there should be a realistic maximum level and the stats should only include the necessary ones. But I will get back to that in Part 2 of my suggestion list.
Rated: 6/10

Capsule System:
You already know that I think this system is wrong. There are little flexibility in the system, and I don't think it would turn out good. No ratings are required.

Character List:
You start with saying that we cannot have all the characters to be included, and that your list is therefore practical. But then you add nearly every character there is. I mean, 141 characters! That is nearly impossible for the developers to achieve. You included all the henchmen and other low priority characters. So even though it is based on my original list, I cannot give this one a good grade.
Rated: 6/10

Costume List:
Again, this is a very unrealistic list. You put 10 alternate outfits for some of the characters. I think that 3 should be the standard.
Rated: 5/10

Tag Team Attacks:
There are some okay tag team attacks, but most of them do got way too much dialog. The set up is also not that good. But I will come back to that later.
Rated: 6/10

Arena List:
44 arenas... A bit optimistic eh? I will suggest something like 20-25, but 44?? No, that is too much for them to handle I believe.
Rated: 6/10

ALL-IN-ALL: 6.4/10

Bottom Line:
I think you have done a great job on this project, but this is what happens when people make everything at once. It is better to separate it into several parts and work through all the ideas. You need to adjust the settings for "reality" and "wish" suggestions. But what is the most important, is to keep it as short and good as you use to do. You wrote 16 pages for all the menus, while I managed to keep it down to 9 pages. And I did also have more modes in my list;) But keep on the good work mate:D

[VBG]

Hi everyone! I thought on bringing up some comparison photos. Just to see how much that can be improved in terms of graphics:)

Nr. 1



Important to improve:
- Colors
- Shadows
- Outer lines (Thin)
- Facial Expressions
- Hair
- Overall shape and depth

More pictures to come:D

Nice ideas, except you are comparing Broly to LSSJ Broly, they look very different.

[Majin Trunks]

I really liked the documents of SSj5 Vegeta and Kamiccolo!

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Nice ideas, except you are comparing Broly to LSSJ Broly, they look bery different.

Actually I compared SSJ Broly to RSSJ Broly ;) Tenkaichi 2 does not have SSJ Broly in it.

[Kamiccolo33]

Kamiccolo Ideas Feedback

You have really put a lot of effort into this document. First I thought that there was going to be a lot of images when it had 56 pages, but surprisingly enough, it nearly had none.

Layout:
You choose to make it with a black background and an orange frame around the text. I am not so fond of the frame, as it pushes the text far too much to the right. It also looks quite boring with no pictures and just orange colored headlines. I know this can be improved
Rated: 6/10

It's a layout. And it's almost similar to yours.

Story Mode:You decided to take away the RPG part and replace it with cutscenes. You also wrote that every character would have their own story line. I am not sure if this would work. They need to follow the main story line, or else it would had been very confusing. I also do not think cutscenes alone will be enough. They might have failed on creating a good RPG so far, but I think they should give it another attempt. This time they should however make it a lot more flexible. Take a look at part 5 of my project when it releases, for more information:up:
Rated: 7/10

It's a suggestion on something new. And episodes are much better than them attempting to make a corny rpg element.

Ultimate Mode:
First of all, you included Arcade in Ultimate Mode? It doesn't exactly fit into this mode in my opinion. The Survival Mode is also quite non-flexible as you will only fight generic characters. The Ultimate Mode set up is pretty bad to be honest. You missed out the normal under modes as well
Rated: 6/10

Arcade mode is just that mode that they have now in Ultimate Battle mode where you climb up the ranks of different groups of fighters. Don't know what you criticized there buddy.

Versus Mode:
It sounds a bit corny with Versus Mode. Duel is a lot better IMO. Once again the mode is a bit flawed. You wrote that there would be 4 players at the battlefield at once. This is not possible as the fighting engine is not made for fighting several opponents. It would also have to be a 4-split screen which would not exactly match a 20" TV
Rated: 6/10

Versus Mode. It's a name, they aren't going to follow it to the point mate. No, it's not built for 4 players on the field, and who said they'd use the same engine? They can change it you know. Even you want 2 v 2. And I never said anything about 4 human players now did I. :p

Tournament Mode:
I think that it contains all the necessary tournaments, but it could have been described a lot better. I miss the excitement and relevant information such as prizes and difficulty settings. Otherwise it is fine
Rate: 7/10

I don't need to go into exact details as you do Vegeta, the way you do it sort of comes off as "You will do this" :)
Training Mode:
The first thing I noticed was that you sort of included the Build-Up mode in this mode. That is not a good thing. Traning Mode is for getting to learn the basics and practise your skills. It got nothing to do with building your character.
Rated: 6/10

It's training mode. You TRAIN. :D

Capsule Shop:
One of the bad things about creating all ideas at once, is that you won't think through them properly. As an instance, you wrote that you get all the ability capsules through the story mode. This means that you will not have the option of buying upgrades to the moves and such. It will take away much of the buying pleasure. You do also not buy Costume Capsules. You buy alternate outfits. Mini Games should however get unlocked through the story mode. Level Capsules are not directly good either. They should just be random exclusive capsules popping up.
Rated: 5/10

Everything comes in the form of capsules. :p Didn't you play Budokais? And how do you unlock mini games through story mode? You won't exactly be playing these mini games in story mode will you. And if you buy stuff, it makes you play it more.

Edit Capsules:
Obviously an attempt on replacing the Evolution-Z mode. I think you missed out pretty much everything it would include. Sorry
Rated: 3/10

I return that tongue. :p It doesn't need much other explaining. It's where you edit you characters with the capsules you have. What else needs to be explained about that if it is explained in the capsules heading? :eek:
Minigames:
These should in my opinion be part of an other mode, but that is just my opinion. You got most of them covered, but some might be a bit unnecessary.
Rated: 9/10

Well I'll be. You agreed with something. Praise the lord :D

Library Z:
Letting it have a more exclusive title such as Capsule Corp. would be nice. This place should have a lot more to offer than what you mentioned.
Rated: 5/10

You gave me a 5 because of the name huh? Hmm...
Options:
It is utterly lacking. You intend to write very much on each point, but the value of the information is not worth that much.
Rated: 5/10

They're all suggestions, I'm not making the game for them. That's how it seems to come across in your suggestions. I mean, is it really necessary to tell THEM, THE MAKERS OF GAMES, that there should be an option to change the screen position? :weird:

Sound and Music:
There are just way too much text to read. You will have to get to the point a lot quicker. You are right in what you are saying, but it just isn't relevant to your ideas. It is more of an article than a suggestion list at some points. Keep it short and cool, is my advice But when you first get to the ideas, there are a lot of good ones. They aren't bad at all, they just need some cuts here and there.
Rated: 8/10

I didn't drag on here. It was quite to the point.
Battle Syetem and Looks:
There are many good ideas in this set up, but again it is drowning in all the redundant information. Arenas and such are a bit unrealistic, but as said, I agree on very much of it. Good job!
Rated: 8/10

It's not what they are going to do, they're suggestions once again. We all have them, and without them this next game would be another T2.
Powerlevel System:
I do not agree on much of this. There should be actual powerlevels, there should be a realistic maximum level and the stats should only include the necessary ones. But I will get back to that in Part 2 of my suggestion list.
Rated: 6/10

You try and make a realistic power level game while still making the FIGHTS FARE. :p

Capsule System:
You already know that I think this system is wrong. There are little flexibility in the system, and I don't think it would turn out good. No ratings are required.

You never agreed with mine and I never agreed with yours. We'll never end that argument.

Character List:
You start with saying that we cannot have all the characters to be included, and that your list is therefore practical. But then you add nearly every character there is. I mean, 141 characters! That is nearly impossible for the developers to achieve. You included all the henchmen and other low priority characters. So even though it is based on my original list, I cannot give this one a good grade.
Rated: 6/10

Once again, you don't like henchmen, I get it. But you also want a complete story mode. You can't pick one or the other. Story relies on characters being in it.
Costume List:
Again, this is a very unrealistic list. You put 10 alternate outfits for some of the characters. I think that 3 should be the standard.
Rated: 5/10

Ohhhh....sorry if I come across like this...but this is a suggestion.
Tag Team Attacks:
There are some okay tag team attacks, but most of them do got way too much dialog. The set up is also not that good. But I will come back to that later.
Rated: 6/10

.....suggestions....
Arena List:
44 arenas... A bit optimistic eh? I will suggest something like 20-25, but 44?? No, that is too much for them to handle I believe.
Rated: 6/10

....SUGGESTIONS!!!....


ALL-IN-ALL: 6.4/10

Bottom Line:
I think you have done a great job on this project, but this is what happens when people make everything at once. It is better to separate it into several parts and work through all the ideas. You need to adjust the settings for "reality" and "wish" suggestions. But what is the most important, is to keep it as short and good as you use to do. You wrote 16 pages for all the menus, while I managed to keep it down to 9 pages. And I did also have more modes in my list But keep on the good work mate

Ok, bottom line on your bottom line. I could have criticized down to the point on your suggestion list, but I realize it's just a suggestion list!

Heck, so is all of ours. I'm not telling them how they're going to do it. I'm popping ideas into their head because they can't see a lot of this for themselves.

No offense, but your suggestions are too much in detail to things that are as plain as day. So it's almost like your attempting to make it for them.

My lists, especially my arena list, is just putting it all on their plate, and they can choose whether they eat it or not. I'm not force feeding them.

However, I accept your opinions. (and on a side note, there didn't need to be flashy pictures, that would just make it longer. I mean, they all know what a PS3 looks like over at Atari :p. And it was already 50 pages, and it was already 20MB.)

I'm a bit...well...:bored:...on your thoughts of my suggestions. Hang on, I'll make that clearer "SUGGESTIONS".

Heh heh. Sorry...oh my gosh it's so late. I'm so tired and drained. I'm out of here. Thanks for taking time in reading it though.:noob:

[SSJ5Vegeta]

You took it better than I had expected. Thanks:p I am only trying to help you know :)

What I meant about the suggestions is that we have to make it realistic. We can't just say 200 chars, but in fact wish that there will be 125 chars maximum, if you know what I mean.

I am trying to create the correct ideas for them to develop further and complete:up:

[VBG]

You guys are almost like rivals.... in a good way.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

lol! I suppose you could say so. Kamiccolo and I both got many great ideas and we do both like to express our opinions about each others ideas ;) But it is of course always a good spirit between us :up:

[Lightning]

Those two (along with Vishkugeta & MajinElite) are sick with their Ideas! :up:

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Does MajinElite got any ideas?:rolleyes:

[Lightning]

With the Create-A Character option! :rolleyes:

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Oh, the Newgrounds "Create-a-Saiyan" part, how could I forget :D

[dboy1373]

they should have create a saga option
and put your sagas together to make a series or something
that would be cool
you could take out the parts of db dbz or dbgt and put in your storyline
you could put characters you create in them
and you can send it to your friend

and i say 200 characters with no alternet costumes
just have say for yamcha

yamcha dessert bandit
yamcha (tournament saga)
yamcha (piccolo jr. saga)
yamcha (saiyan saga)
yamcha (freeza saga)
yamcha (cell games saga)
yamcha (kid buu saga)
yamcha (gt)

thats only 8 and he will probally the most forms

[theking]

actualy goku has like the most, i think

[Kamiccolo33]

You took it better than I had expected. Thanks:p I am only trying to help you know :)

What I meant about the suggestions is that we have to make it realistic. We can't just say 200 chars, but in fact wish that there will be 125 chars maximum, if you know what I mean.

I am trying to create the correct ideas for them to develop further and complete:up:

You probably over-criticized a bit. But it's your opinion. You may have a lot of time on your hands, but I'm REALLY REALLY busy, and don't have time to polish it. So I just wanted to get my ideas out there. I could of course make mine to look better than yours :p, but I simply don't have the time to go through it all. It took a week just to find 90% of my ideas in the suggestion thread and put them together.

Once again, I just wanted my ideas out there, not making it for them. As long as they get seen and considered then I'll be happy.

I'm sure we'll all be happy with what we get in the end. :)

P.S. I'm so tempted to go through yours and go bananas over it, but I better not. Heh heh. :D

Good luck in getting your ideas through to them.:up:

[SSJ5Vegeta]

You probably over-criticized a bit. But it's your opinion. You may have a lot of time on your hands, but I'm REALLY REALLY busy, and don't have time to polish it. So I just wanted to get my ideas out there. I could of course make mine to look better than yours :p, but I simply don't have the time to go through it all. It took a week just to find 90% of my ideas in the suggestion thread and put them together.
That is cool. I guess I did over-criticize them at first. I was just stating my opinion right afterwards I had read through them. I should have waited a bit, sorry. And I do not got much time either, therefore I make them in several parts, so that I prevent it from becoming rushed and boring :)

Once again, I just wanted my ideas out there, not making it for them. As long as they get seen and considered then I'll be happy.

I'm sure we'll all be happy with what we get in the end. :)Yeah, I agree.

P.S. I'm so tempted to go through yours and go bananas over it, but I better not. Heh heh. :DI would be happy if you did. I am not going to be angry, any criticism is good for me, bad or good :D Only then I can improve the ideas of mine ;)

[Kamiccolo33]

I don't have time to go through your massive list again, but I agreed with about 70% of it.

Hey, you're playing FFXII too. What do you think of it on a side note?

[SSJ5Vegeta]

I think it is good so far. But I enjoyed FFX a bit more though :)

[VBG]

they should have create a saga option
and put your sagas together to make a series or something
that would be cool
you could take out the parts of db dbz or dbgt and put in your storyline
you could put characters you create in them
and you can send it to your friend

and i say 200 characters with no alternet costumes
just have say for yamcha

yamcha dessert bandit
yamcha (tournament saga)
yamcha (piccolo jr. saga)
yamcha (saiyan saga)
yamcha (freeza saga)
yamcha (cell games saga)
yamcha (kid buu saga)
yamcha (gt)

thats only 8 and he will probally the most forms

8 forms of Yamcha? Was Yamcha even there in any saga after the saiyan one?

Also create a saga sounds a bit boring since you know what the saga already is.

[helsing1]

We know what the saga already is, but we could pass this saga to another person, trough memory card, password, or something like that... so, the saga maker would be cool.

[Kamiccolo33]

I think create-a-saga is a useless feature. SS5 Vegeta might agree with me here, but why spend their time adding that, or create-a-character for that matter, if it means they can't spend as long making the ACTUAL GAME BETTER?

It makes little sense to put create-a-saga in, let alone create-a-anything.

[Broly LegendSSJ]

totaly agree with you ...

[SSJ5Vegeta]

I think create-a-saga is a useless feature. SS5 Vegeta might agree with me here, but why spend their time adding that, or create-a-character for that matter, if it means they can't spend as long making the ACTUAL GAME BETTER?

It makes little sense to put create-a-saga in, let alone create-a-anything.
Yeah, I do agree on that:cool::up:

[VBG]

Actually Create a Character wouldn't be THAT bad... if they improve the rest that is.

[helsing1]

create a character yes!:p the game whould be much more interesting:up: lots of games have this mode... why shouldn´t tenkaichi 3 have it?

[SSJ5Vegeta]

It is not that I am directly against it. I do just think that they should complete the actual game first, and then focus at other modes like Create a Character ;)

[MajinElite]

Yeah, I do agree on that:cool::up:

and i third that notion...no create-a-saga. it just sounds way to boring...and kinda useless.

[helsing1]

hey guys, can I edit in the sugestion thread after the others have wrote? Because if the others write after me I´m not able to use the edit button in my post again...:confused:

[VBG]

Yes you can edit your post there.

[Kamiccolo33]

What a waste of time this has been if that scan they found is real! PS2? It doesn't look any better. And they couldn't make it too much ACTION PACKED than the last because your PS2 would blow up.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

The only difference in term of graphics as far I can see, is that there are enhanced shadowing.

[helsing1]

What a waste of time this has been if that scan they found is real! PS2? It doesn't look any better. And they couldn't make it too much ACTION PACKED than the last because your PS2 would blow up.
What are you talking about?

[VBG]

The new BT3 is for PS2.

Anyway, I don't really care about the graphics...

It is the fighting engine and the gameplay that matter.

[Kamiccolo33]

What are you talking about?

The battles won't look too much better in way of character graphics, arena graphics and explosions and beams etc. Any more action on the screen will cause the game to lag even more horribly than it does now. The frame rate for T2 on PS2 was very low compared to Budokais. It was hard to look at sometimes.

I really hope it comes out on PS3.

[Conners]

What? Tenkaichi 3 has been announced to come out on the PS2!? :eek:

If this is true, then please post a link to where you found it out.

[Majin Trunks]

There's a thread in BT2 section.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

I do not really feel like completing my project right now. It seems like they have already planned the outcome of the game for half a year ago, so why even bother :/

[Kamiccolo33]

I do not really feel like completing my project right now. It seems like they have already planned the outcome of the game for half a year ago, so why even bother :/

I know how you feel. All that time and they are already into developing it. I just hope they heard our really cool ideas and actually USED THEM. Unlike what they did with a lot of us telling them to make it for PS3.

[Conners]

Well, they at least seemed to have taken the idea of locking onto the moon to transform into an Oozaru. Think of it this way, since the last tenkaichi almost maxed out the PS2, and this one probably will, then the next one will HAVE to be for the PS3 (theoretically), and everyone who can't afford it now might be able to afford it then.
Also, they might already be devloping the one for the PS3, and just decided to make Tenkaichi 3 while it's being developed.

Not definite, but we might just be so lucky.

[Kamiccolo33]

Well, they at least seemed to have taken the idea of locking onto the moon to transform into an Oozaru. Think of it this way, since the last tenkaichi almost maxed out the PS2, and this one probably will, then the next one will HAVE to be for the PS3 (theoretically), and everyone who can't afford it now might be able to afford it then.
Also, they might already be devloping the one for the PS3, and just decided to make Tenkaichi 3 while it's being developed.

Not definite, but we might just be so lucky.

I know it's just your thought, but if they are making T3 in the meantime, then how good could this possibly be?

And it was a lot of people's idea to lock on to the moon.:) I just hope they don't use corny animations like the last two. I hope they've refined how the characters move, and I hope they've fixed transforming a lot.

[L Lawliet]

I'm really digging the HUD. It sort of resembles B3's.

[gogetassj8]

i got a couple ideas like let goku trans form into ssj4 while in base ssj1 ssj2 ssj3 and same for vegeta base ssj1 ssj2 ssj4 and have a what if vegeta ssj3 another put all movies and sagas like bio-broly and worlds strongest and the whole first saga of gt and dragonball put that in there and all gt character like gt vegeta base ssj1 and what if ssj2 ssj3 gt vegeta and gohan ssj1 and trunks ssj1 goten ssj1 and what if adult gotenks ssj1 ssj2 ssj3 and a what if ssj4 same with gohan oh and hercule gt that would be funny umm and gt goku base ssj1 ssj2 ssj3 and goku jr and vegeta jr both base ssj1 and make a kid gogeta jr and put a new saga one of those af fake sagas it would be fun and raditz base ssj1 ssj2 ssj3 and ssj4 and make broly able to go into bio broly so what i mean is have like gohan in bt2 ( Budokai Tenkaichi 2) you could switch into the great sayjinman when in base so have broly go base bio or ssj1 then ssj2 and Lssj and dont leave out the one broly where he is not huge but still has that ssj hair i think thats ssj2 for him. and levels like when goku and vegeta and pikkon battle janemba the other world the other world tourtament. Hell. heven where picolo shoots up the place to get into hell to help goku get out ah space i have ps2 but i saw wii version and it had frezza's ship in space that will be cool and picolos part in meta cooler.and then universe tourtament where gohan battles bojac and city normal and in ruins and in bojac unbound the place when gohan actually battles them oh and bojacs hench men besides the chick have king cold a playable character ah gokus houseas a area and king kais planet snake way and hat snake chick bulaa and chi-chi ox king tien able to do that more arms move dragon ball krillen goku not able to fly in the begining Dodoria's Elite and Tullece's henchmen and Lord Slug's Henchmen and Nail and Majin Grunts and Yakon and Android #8 , Bora, Android #14, Android #15, Dr. Uiro, General Blue General White General Copper Spopovich Yamu all dark star dragons Garlic Garlic Jr.'s minions Hirudegarn's top half and bottem half and first form in bt2 they only had Hirudegarn the one that goku used dragon fist on but he had a first form. king vegeta Paragus bra Future Gohan baby before he got vegeta kami Super Buu (Absorbed Freeza) Super Buu (Absorbed Cell) Super Buu (Absorbed Vegeta) Super Buu (Absorbed Yamcha & Tenshinhan) Super Buu (gogeta asborded) Cell krillen asorbed little pan Gohan's original appearance gohan able to trans form into great ape gt #18 i'll think of more soon

[VBG]

Paragraphs make things easier to read...

[Majin Trunks]

Paragraphs make things easier to read...Yeah. And gogetassj8, I do not like DBGT, so that means I am gay?
I like DBZ&DB but GT isn't so good.

[Kamiccolo33]

They're all good in different ways.

Dragonball has the best story and is the funniest out of the lot.
Dragonball Z had th best fighting and best bad guys and a really good story.
Dragonball GT had some bad ass ad guys like Omega Shenron. But had a crappy story.


I like the HUD as well, I "dig" it, as someone said.;)

[helsing1]

sorry, but where did you get that information of tenkaichi 3 for ps2?
EDIT: Please, someone? I realy have to see it! I can´t find it anywhere...

[turnermancan]

hey, just found this thread, ive watched dbz for years and have all the games.

adventure mode needs improving and you should be able to go along with any story instead of sticking to the same **** all the time, or at least what if scenarios.

next we need more detailed effects, eg when you get punched where is the blood? instead all we get is mucky and cut when the match is nearly over, thats a bit crap really.
there should be way more techniques, for example now we have 2 faves and 2 finishers, and we access them by pressing l2 and circle etc, well we have four directions on a dpad so why not fill them up, every character has at least 4 techniques you see them use in the show, and whats with those rush atacks why does almost everyone have one. i couldnt believe they missed out piccolos masonko attack.

Transformations, in my opinion at the moment they slow things down, you should be able to just press and BAM, this is a fighting game, the last thing you wanna do is give your opponent time to take in that you just got stronger, its like saying yeah now lets wait a sec and now lets go again.
Its the same with some of the attacks, why the hell does it stop the action, lock on the character and then release, it gives your opponent too much time to prepare.

I definitely agree with power level ideas and i think they are essential, the super dragonball z level ups were ok but you should be able to fight henchmen and spar and stuff to get your power level up, power levels are a mssive part of dbz and they should be in it. If you go back to the gameboy game, dragonball z gokutuuden 2(Something like that) then the plevel system works ok there, the more you hold down your attack the more energy goes in, and your power reading goes up.
I think that if you dont have a scouter that you should only be able to see your own pl on your side of the screen, if you have a scouter then you can see both yours and your opponents pl's.

Finally 3 things, make maps larger and have more of them, eg gokus house, king kaid planet, etc. more destructible environments, craters etc. and last of all, the edit character section. take a look at super dragonball z, u can edit name, and colour/costume of your character and even select someone elses special, i think you should be able to edit name and clothing of any character, add 2 specials form any other character to any character and you should be able to edit features like clothing, clothing colour, and even add or remove clothing, or better yet just chuck in create a character mde for us.

Ah one last thing, for tag battles/free battles give us more slots, up to 8 - 10 teammates would be better, and when u tag out, just get the next guy straight in, dont bother zooming in and watching them fly off, make em vanish/fly off but faster so it doesnt stop the action, like goku says "see ya" does a jumping back flip and piccolo jumps in, this way you could give people team attacks or even give any character specific team attacks.

Turner

[gogetassj8]

yeh i know gt kinda sucked but it was al right my thing at the bottem well i got relly bord so i put what ever came to mind

[gogetassj8]

i know about double posting but if u like db db dbgt go on http://---.com it has all episodes and movies

[L Lawliet]

Gogetassj8, remove the link to the website. They're inappropriate to the forums as they are DBZ epsiodes and/or AMVs. They're not allowed. You've been posting them all over the DBZ area. :bored:

EDIT:
I found this little idea from the idea thread.

Tenkaichi 3 idea (PLEASE DO THIS SPIKE!)

a weather change option would be cool don't you think? I would like a weather change option. The weather of a stage can change alot of stuff.

Imagine Kami's tower at night with the clouds below it stormy? Can't you see? We need emotion in the weather for an even bigger impact on the fight.

This is an awesome idea that should be made. For the Wii, they can use the Forecast Channel for the weather patterns near your city. For PS2, since they don't have a channel like this, they can implement the system's clock and when you play a stage, the stage will change.

[helsing1]

yeah.... that was cool!!!:up:

[dudester]

it would be awesome if u could fight 2 people at once, and da online mode would have a tag team tournament, but it might not work well because fusion could happen and it would be hard to decide who controls da fused character
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but its a great idea right

[D.B.Z Master2]

Man someone from spike should really look at MajinElites post on the first page. Man toughs were great ideas really.

[Weatherby]

Well I didn't read all of the posts on the ideas thread, but I liked Blanker's new stage suggestions:
1)New planet Végéta
2)House of kid Goku
3)Intestines of Buu
4)Headquarters of the Red Ribbon
5)Hell of Janemba
6)Tree of Tullece
7)Mountains with snow
8)Vessel of Babidi
9)Space (fight between Freeza and Bardock)
10)Kingcastle
11) Planet Vegeta
12) The scenarios of teinkachi 2

^^Most of those would be pretty cool, especially the tree of might, Janemba's jelly bean hfil, space, planet vegeta, and snow. Hopefully 3 or 4 of those will be in the game.

What do you guys think of my ideas on page 1 of the idea thread?
I think all 3 of my scenarios would work really great if they tried, and they would be pretty interesting to the fans of the series since it would really just be expanding on the story instead of changing it. Out of all my non-story related ideas I'd really like the better customization, more attacks, faster and bigger oozaru's, and kaioken goku to be in the game.

[Cibi_Ssj5]

And have you ever thought about BROLY APE???
He would be cool!!!

[supreme vegeta]

SSj4 Trunks
Nightmare SSJ3 Broly
False Super Super Saiyan form.
Turles's team.
Lord Slug's team.
Dr. Willow.

[Mystic Gohan]

I think the games from here on out should be designed soley for a Japanese audience. The previous PS2 games seem too Americanized. Taken away from the entire feel of the series. You see in games like Naruto Narutimett Hero the games that came out before US recognition is full of Japanese pop culture, but now that it has become popular in the US and the rest of the world the entire series is being made "safe" and universal for the rest of the world. I feel that the Dragon Ball franchise should keep its 80s Japanese zing rather than trying to please the rest of the world like the US producers want it to do.

[Lightning]

And have you ever thought about BROLY APE???
He would be cool!!!

Yeah, he would since not a lot of Saiyans in the show underwent this Transformation. It would have been nice to have seen this more
often.

Someone actually came up with this suggestion. :)

[Big_Man85]

First of all, "SPIKE"

The game Dragon Ball Z Budokai: Tenkaichi 2 is so far good up to this point. Dragon Ball Z Budokai: Tenkaichi 3 should have everything that DBT2 has, and I mean Everything. Combat list, Moves, Characters, Modes, Options and so forth...that way the game can be picked up where it left off.

3 things! for the game to improve "SPIKE" this should at least make Dragon Ball Z Budokai: Tenkaichi 3 move up a score from an 8.8 to atleast a 9.2 average
which I would consider the best Dragon Ball Z game made by far From "SPIKE"

1. Transformations

In the Previous game BT2, Transformations were to sudden. This time, try taking your time creating transformations to make it more realistic. For instance, DBT2 Goku's kaioken Technique, the way how Goku transformed "During Game Play" it should be like that for "all" transformations. Nevertheless in their own unique way. (Example, When they all "FIRST" transformed/Gohan/Piccolo/Trunks/Goku) There should not be any more cut scene or movies scene when a character is transforming, but rather it be when they transform it should be during gameplay like the kaioken technique. furthermore, when they transform, as far as sayians goes, try to take your time designing some realistic hair movement from turning black to gold and some lighting/thunderstorm and aura around them as they transform. (Example: we look back at how when goku was slashed by freeza 2 of the most deadliest discs in the face,at that particular moment when goku had transformed did you see the way how his hair was so "wavy like" transforming into a super sayian.) This should be a good idea for you "SPIKE". Nevertheless, lets not forget the apes as well.


2. Mini games/More moves

In the Previous game DBT2, the game was said to have 5 moves per fighter. To be honest SPIKE, I was a little upset on the fact that Goku Super Saiyan 3 didn't have some combat fighting special moves. For instance, Super Explosive wave?! that's a waste of a move, in fact it's very cheap at getting around your opponents as well. I was expecting a lot from Goku super sayain 3 more like some fighting hard hitting damage moves. So overall, try to take your time extending the special moves for each fighter to 6 moves at least. If it is not possible, the least you can do is input the "Best moves" for the fighters; Not no Super Exposive wave but still do not count that move out of the game though. So please take your time to create ideas "SPIKE" watch some dbz sagas and movies to get ideas for the fighters in the game. If there is not enough space to put all this in the game memory, then go further "SPIKE" and create another Disc. If the game Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3 needs 2 Disc then let it be so. Next, I want to talk about the mini games. Try taking your time inputing some minigames that makes the Dbz gamer fans feel like they're watching a saga. Here is an example for you SPIKE and creators,

"Namek Destruction"

Create a time limit for Goku to Escape Planet Namek, finding a spaceship and high tailing out of there. Make the spaceship difficult to find, this way it can create a challenge for our gamers. make Goku's sense high and alert when he is trying to find the spaceship to know where he is going. Try making his heart beat pump fast as he panics to find a way out. This is just an idea for you "SPIKE" Ideas, Ideas, Ideas!!

From the beginning of Dragon ball Z to Dragon Ball Gt, all the z fighters that had to go through a final shot to defeat their enemies; let that be a mini game for us to challenge. such as when Goku and vegeta did their Kamehameha and Galic Gun blasting at each other, let that be a minigame. Ideas, Ideas, Ideas!!

3. Soundtracks

In the previous game DBT2, the soundtracks were great. In fact, the tracks blend in with the type of fighting game such as DBT2. BUT, there are some tracks in DBT2 such as those "ring around the circus" tracks or "My little pony" tracks that should not be in the game! what so ever. SPIKE, this is Dragon Ball Z not Dragon Flower Seeds, so please put some motivating combat soundtracks that makes the battle intense and fun. There is nothing wrong inputing the Offical Dragon Ball Z Soundtracks in as well. This should boost up the gameplay as well, Such as the Buu saga tracks, or The History of Trunks saga track, or nevertheless the fight between Goku and jeice/burter soundtrack. all these ideas should come into handy for your next installment.

So in short, Please take your time creating this game, watch some movies and sagas and get some ideas from the creator himself, Akria Toriyama. I hope the ideas I had typed above can give you a little boost to create this game!

Later fans...

[MajinTenShinHan]

These are my ideas Atari and Bandai please listen only this time the last time.
What if characters:
1-Majuubhan(majuub +tienshinhan)-Fusion
2-Majin tenshinhan uses majin power to keep up with the sayans or to defeat/fight piccolo or Dabura i mean vegeta and goku are rivals why not tien and piccolo.Piccolo must pay for chaozu death in the past lol.
Spopovitch yamu and vegeta could use it why not tien ???Tien is bald like yamu right and he always wanted to stay stronger .
3-a story mode about tien's alien race maybe they can have some kind of transformation a super 3 eyes warrior.
Edit colours mode.
Switch combos and techniques between the characters ex:Videl has some great combos i would like to use them with another characters.A Combo with tien clones would be awesome too or four arms combo or Kousengan.
Finnaly Tien with kaioh ken, guys tien has the copy eye remember and he trained during a year with king kai,this is the last chance, please let him use kaioh ken this time,if some people call these games fan service please do it only this time.I think bandai (or some producers)hates tien that is the only reason they only gave him 1 outfit or put him out of the games like super dbz and refuse to give him kaioh ken which in fact he possesses.
Tien with 3 outfits and with cape however keep the green strap custom with yellow socks coz it is the best and add the buu saga outfit with cape and the out fit with brown cape tien used when goku became super sayan 3
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6342/bscap023ll9.jpg (http://imageshack.us).

Bandai or atari should make a tribute for tien's seiyuu Mr. Hirotaka Suzuoki and honestly i think my suggestions for tienshinhan are a good way to do it.
This game needs a majin tenshinhan.
More speed man, bartha is so fast he is the fastest warrior maybe the others should increase the speed to reach his level too bartha speed is fantastic,at least pikkon without weights should have the same speed. My favourite new characters are Kogu/Gokuha(base and super)and Bido(bojack's minions) general rilld and Hatchayack and Redic from dbgt .Small slug without helmet and pikkon without weights. Yamcha long hair with weights outfit(sayan saga).
Chiaozu with buu's saga outfit with cape.
Lord slug must be faster , man he is so slow
About the sayans the game is already perfect.

[Marby]

Big_Man85, welcome to Atari. I'm glad that you are posting your idea's for Tenkaichi 3 but please try not to post them all over the forum. Please make a thread for yourself or make a post in one of the stickyed suggestion threads, like this thread. Also, please do not mass PM them to everyone here on Atari. Thanks.

[theking]

BROLY APE???
He would be cool!!!


Yeah that'd be cool, but i don't think he has a tail, he does in the Bio- Movie, but haven't seen it in the 1st and 2nd. or maybe they were tucked inside his pants(kreepy).

[SupaGokuMan13]

eww thts gross

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Capsule System
Budokai 3 invented a new way of customizing your characters. But many players didn't like the fact that you couldn't have all their abilities equipped at once. In Tenkaichi 2, your finishing moves were already set when you obtained a character. This made it impossible for you to customize the character, as you could in Budokai 3.

My capsule system will be a lot more complicated than the one we had in Tenkaichi 2. But still really easy to navigate through. My vision was to create a capsule system that is easy to use, but still allows you to fully customize your character. By combining the engine from both Budokai 3 and Tenkaichi 2, I have managed to create something that is in my opinion, the ultimate Capsule System.

The Different Capsules:
Instead of having only a single type of capsules, my system is based on 3 different types. This way, you can balance the set-up for each character perfectly, without any annoying weak-spots.
Ability - Finishing Moves, Ultimate Move and Generic Moves for anybody to equip.
Transformations - New forms, transformations and fusion.
Enhancements - Unique enhancements for some characters exclusively.

The Capsule Tray:
The capsule tray will be different from the one we know in Budokai 3 and Tenkaichi 2. As there will be separate defined slots allocated for specific types of capsules. These will be marked with different colors, such as red for ability, blue for transformations and green for enhancements. Another important difference, is that each character's capsule tray different to each other, giving them advantages in some areas, or simply making up for the lack of another area.

The Capsule Tray Layout:
As each character will have a different set-up for the capsule tray, the look of the capsule tray remains the same. Basically, a capsule tray will look like this:

Ability
1 - Empty
2 - Empty
3 - Empty
4 - Empty
5 - Empty
6 - Empty
7 - Empty

Transformations
1 - Empty
2 - Empty
3 - Empty
4 - Empty

Enhancements
1 - Empty
2 - Empty
3 - Empty
4 - Empty
5 - Empty

Q: Why does this set-up look nearly exact the same as Kamiccolo's system?
A: The reason for this is simple. I made the original capsule system a long time ago. Kamiccolo and I have borrowed each other ideas in order to make the best ideas. So what you might have thought was all Kamiccolo's work, might just as well be based on my original work and visa versa:up: But we also have our disagreements about the capsule system. So things will be more different as you continue to read.

Customization:
The text above explains how the capsule tray will look originally. However, this is how a character's system tray will look like:

Son Goku [Needs 18000 EXP to level up]
Lvl 10
PL 40 000

Ability
1 - Empty
2 - Empty
3 - Empty
4 - Empty
5 - Empty
6 - Empty
7 - Empty

Transformations
1 - Empty
2 - Empty
3 - Empty
4 - Empty

Enhancements
1 - Empty
2 - Empty
3 - Empty
4 - Blocked
5 - Blocked

As you can see, the last two Enhancement slots are blocked. In order to unlock these, you will have to equip an Enhancement Slot +2 capsule. The reason for this is that the characters should be limited to not use all the slots. This means that you will constantly see blocked slots for the characters.

The blocked slots are mostly affected by the character itself. Goku is a perfect example for this. He got a lot of abilities and transformations, so therefore the number of enhancement slots are reduced. This is just for keeping a balance between all the characters. Some characters do not have many abilities, but have 5 enhancement slots unlocked.
NOTE: Each character will have their capsule tray preset once their unlocked.

Customization 2 - Upgrading:
Now you know how the system tray works in practice. But there are still some things that is important to be aware off.

- Upgrading Abilities The standard amount of for each character are three finishing moves and one ultimate blast. So you will most likely not be able to equip all 7 ability slots. Well, unless you equip some moves twice that is. If you do equip the same move for a character twice, then the move will get more powerful and devastating. Some moves will also combine into a new powerful move. For an instance, if you equip Goku with Spirit Bomb twice, then it will evolve into a two-slot demanding Super Spirit Bomb.

- Upgrading Through Transforming
Some moves do also upgrade themselves if you transform into a new form. For an instance, Goku's Kaioken Attack upgrades to Super Kaioken Attack as a Super Saiyan. Then it will become more powerful, but still only demand a single slot.

Customization 3 - Transformations:
This is one of the biggest differences from Tenkaichi 2 and Budokai 3. Each character will have a specific number of transformation slots available. By equipping a transformation, you will automatically obtain new moves for that form. Now comes the tricky part. Once a transformation is unlocked, you can configure the standard moves. The standard moves are the abilities the character automatically receives when it unlocks a new form.

By tapping [] at the transformation capsule, you will be taken to a menu called the transformation menu. Here you can replace the standard moves with others. However, it is important to note that you may only equip moves from earlier forms. You can equip kamehameha to SSJ4 Goku, but you cannot equip 10x Kamehameha to base Goku. You may also not configure other types of capsules while in this process. All enhancement and transformation capsules can only be set in base form:o

Here is a preview of how Goku's standard moves can be replaced:

Ability
1 - Angry Kamehameha
2 - Meteor Strike > Super Kaioken Attack
3 - Furious Rush > Kiai Attack
4 - Dragon Fist
5 - Instant Transmission Kamehameha > Spirit Bomb Absorption
6 - Empty Slot > Angry Kamehameha
7 - Empty Slot > Super Kaioken Attack

Notice the upgrades from previous moves. Kaioken Attack turns into Super Kaioken Attack and Spirit Bomb turns into Spirit Bomb Absorption. When you first unlock the new form, you might not have obtained all his/her moves. Therefore you might later on tap an option called Optimise in order to equip the best moves available. You can see how the last two empty slots have been equipped with newly obtained moves for SSJ Goku.

Last Words:
I think that this system could actually be quite good in Tenkaichi 3. You would be able to customize your moves a lot more flexible, but still have an easy set-up to follow. The game already offers everything that is needed in order to accomplish this. The difference between Kamiccolo's and my system, is that Kamiccolo wants there to be only a few moves for each character, that have to evolve by transforming into a new form. I think that this is wrong, as it will mean that there would be less moves for each character. They have already made new moves for each form, so why not take advantage of them?;)

Okay, that was all I have come to think of right now. I might edit it later on when I get new ideas. Thanks.

What do you think?

[theking]

should be on the DBZ game discussion thread?? and yes, i like em.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Please use this thread to discuss all idea's posted in the ''one post only'' thread.
Here is a link to that thread: http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums...d.php?t=585091
If you want to comment on someone's idea's please quote the idea you want to talk about. You can post as many times as you want in here, the one post only rule does not apply in this thread.
That is what the thread is here for ;) Thanks.

[majinwarrior24]

In my opinion, In order for the game to be great, they need to improve the cpu difficulty. I personally found BT2 quite easy.

[FallenWarrior]

First of all, I would just like 2 say i ain gonan post no pics or nothin, i just gonna post ideas, since a lotta people say they like my suggestions, i hope they will b liked enough 2 make it in the game...

1. Stages - Arenas should have battle affects, such as if u send an opponent flying into a tower, there should be a cut scene of him / her flying into the building, dusting him self off, and flying out, or simply flying through the building. Each time, a different cutscene shows an action, after a certain amount of times, the object through which flown through break apart (only 4 regular size characters, not no giants)

2. New arenas, such as Outer Space, with floating rocks as land. The planets on which vegeta trained on, while trying 2 get SSJ, or even the chamber in which Vegeta trained in on Earth while trying 2 get SSJ, 4get the name, but it was inside the ship, the gravity room.

3. Capsules used for characters, move capsules, Example, goku, = Kamehameha, Dragon Fist, Solar Flare, Rush Attack, Spirit Bomb, Super Spirit Bomb, 10x Kamehameha, Final Explosion (move he was about to use on Super 17), or any other moves used, just put the capsules, have the limit of 5 at a time per character, and unlock the moves for them as u progress the game, and have the ability to Cuztomize ur characters own set of moves. This is actualy a popular request, and has been 4 a while.

4. Cutscene combos, such as when after a certain sequence of buttons pressed, a cuscene will show the character perfoming the combo. Example, punch, punch, kick, kick, triangle, = the character attacking goes into a beserk attacking rage and lands 20 or something punches and kicks in super speed, harder then that combos though, lol

5. More ' What If ' Storylines, a LOT more, there should be more of them then there are of sagas, and make them more unique, no bad guys gone good or something, although i loved the raditz on good side though. Ideas: Krillin Begins cheating on 18 with another girl or something, or Bad guys forming a tag team, such as janemba + Frieza + what ever other bad guys have tails, find a way to revive them selves and start slowly killing all the warriors on earth. somwhere at the end, Tag team about to die, and Janemba + Frieza fuse to fight.

6. What If Characters, such as janemba (final) + Frieza (final) or super buu + Super 17, random stuff like that, and unique new moves for each fusion.

7. The characters have more transformation options, such as pui - pui = desperation mode, or what if fusions especialy for the characters that dun have a transformation yet. Its more fun when the character ur playing with, no matter who, can transform higher.

[kbrooksgohan]

I like for them to use the auras effects from b3 with the ki bars and everything...but a new feature I'd like for them to add in this game or probably the ps3 is when you power up your hair and your clothes shift back and forth depending on how many ki bars you have.

Like with goku when he powered up his hair swayed and it stood up...I'd like to see that for every character with hair. Also, when you transform into a super saiyan I'd like that sound you know the tree,tree,tree..........sound. Super Dbz had it this game can too. And for the useless characters a solution I have is to include them in story mode only, so they don't take up important character space,like rest of bojacks henchmen, and maybe the other henchmen.

Gokuu could be playable but not bujin and bido. Also fix the sound effects there not explosive at all. That smack sound is whack...........you know when they punch each other..... Please get rid of the generic moves and focus on giving characters a more complete movelist.

I love the idea of bringing back the capsule system, I think that always gave me a better feeling of customization then having all the moves at once.

[Stoneiswuwu]

Here are my ideas for part 3 of the Budokai series.

- I know your adding 20 something new characters, that's great. And there will be like 20 or so levels which is also good.

- Character selections: When playing in duel mode the characters should be broken up into sagas, they are somewhat in DBZ BT2 but not well enough. Have a Saiyan Saga section with all the characters from that saga with their corresponding outfits. The reason being if my friend and I want to recreate the 1st battle between Goku and Vegeta, the Goku in DBZ BT2 is WAY stronger than the Vegeta from the Saiyan Saga (one with the scouter). So basically have a Goku for every Saga of the series, however you wanna break it down (this goes for all characters). Saiyan Saga, Frieza Saga, Cell, Buu, GT older and younger versions. Make sure though that the Goku from the Saiyan Saga can't go SS though, he should only be able to power up to Kaio Ken x5 or x10 whatever his max was. For Frieza Goku should only be able to go SS, Cell he can go SS2, and Buu he can go SS3. This way when people duel characters they are more close in level (both normal and custom forms)

- Costumes: Now say I picked Krillin from the Freiza Saga, there should be the version (orange gi, blue undershirt and kung fu shoes) (orange gi, no blue undershirt with kung fu shoes) (and of course Krillin in the Saiyan armor) Other examples: Vegeta from the Cell Saga should also have the pink shirt (that says BADMAN on the back) and yellow pants available. Veteta from the Frieza saga should have a tail and scouter, and a version without the tail and scouter. Gohan from the Cell Saga should have the Saiyan armor he trained in, the white kung fu shirt and black pants. Gohan from the Saiyan Saga should have the yellow and green outfit etc... You get the idea. Basically any and every outfit they wore in the show should be available in the game (within the correct saga they wore it in).

- Costume Selections: One thing that really bugged me in DBZ BT2 is that when you wanted to pick a different costume for a guy you would get options like 1, 2, 3 and you wouldn't be able to see what it looked like until you started playing. If I pick Goku from the Frieza Saga, he should have different viewable costumes so I know which one I pick before I play. Once again same goes for all characters.

- Online Play: For the love of God and everything that is holy PLEASE PLEASE make this game online!

- Wii Movements: I am under the impression that there will be more movements for special blast moves in the game. GOOD IDEA! It needs more. For instance the Spirit Bomb, to do this move hold B+Z move both hands over your head, release B and Z as you "throw" the bomb at your opponent. Things like that, try and emulate the actual movements of the characters into the game.

- Other moves: Ok, when an opponent does the special rush attack there should be more button combinations to it. Let me explain... When a character does one of their major attacks that are hand to hand combinations rather than a blast. Say Android 17 for example, his move like a lot of other people is he juggles you in the air with a bunch of kicks, and finishes it with one really hard strike sending you into the ground. These moves are too easy to pull off and too hard to block and or dodge. So I suggest that like from God of War when he attacks a boss there are certain buttons that flash up that you must push in the correct order in order to do the move correctly. So each time 17 does a kick there should be a different button to push in order to pull off the entire combination. And each time you do the move the button combinations would be different. This would make doing moves MUCH more difficult as well as having a much greater reward because people probably wouldn't be able to pull it off every single time they try it. Also for moves like that that have the small cinemas incorporated into them there should be a few different camera angles to each one, change it up a little bit.

- Levels: Levels should not have boundaries anymore. Make sure to include areas like King Kai's Planet, maybe the spaceship with the gravity machine in it. And the Other World Tournament. Add that cool city that the Z fighters fight Broly in when they first meet, that would be awesome. Plus all the different areas from the Bojack movie.

- RPG Element: I like the overall scheme of customizing your characters. Personally I try to make each guy as strong as they were in the show, I don't like maxing out each guy because maxing out Guldo to level 165 is highly unrealistic in the realm of DBZ.

- Characters: Just so we're clear, hopefully you'll be adding the Spice Boys, the rest of Bojacks crew, the rest of the Androids, Bardocks crew, some Freiza henchmen, more Majin guys like Pui Pui and that large green Yamu (I think that was his name) guy. Anyone who fought in the show or movies should be in this game.

- That's about all I can think of for now. I really hope you guys take some of this to heart and really try to incorporate this into the new game. Anyway that just my 2 cents, enjoy.

[kbrooksgohan]

How about this they take 10 moves from the show, 10 made up ones for the game, and leave 10 moves for you to create your own combos! How about that? And I think they need to take out melee it really sucks! And anyone think they should bring back the kick button? Also, keep the combat list from tenkaichi 2 but enhance it. Also, you know what I liked about b3? You had a chance to train and master you characters moves that was cool . T2 or t1 didn't allow you to do that because it had melee. Whelp lets here some feedback and your ideas maybe Spike will use it for the game.
Think about it most people want the characters to be individual if they take moves from the show then they will be individual. Plus new moves, I'm talking about combo moves not just beam attacks. To me melee is to general even for 150 characters
B]Chains[/b]
Anybody like the idea of chains in a dragonball z game? I think they could replace it instead of rushes. Like you put in a command and then in order to do the chain you need to press them after a combo.

Energy Blast/Ball Dodge Options/ Costume Customization
Also, I think having different options one how to dodge an energy attack would be nice almost like Final Bout but way better......and I wouldn't mind having better customization( I thinking this could be for ps3) where you could buy items land create your own customized goku or any dbz character.

Like mixing the red shirt with a scouter or even saiyan armor with a scouter, plus freeza saga SS hair (Goku) would be awesome. So basically I'm saying you could customize the hair,eye wear, gi, wrist bands, and maybe even their attacks and attack styles too.

Attacks
On another note Majin Buu Gohan Absorbed should have his big pink energy ball he used against veggetto and he should have a ghost kamikaze who can shoot kamehameha and Masenko's just like the show.

Veggeto should get final kamehameha and he should be a combination of Goku's and Vegeta combo list plus new moves.

Last is mastering the moves
[B]The ability to learn combos like in b3 would be cool, because you had to learn them yourself since they weren't listed.

[The_Demon_King]

How about this they take 10 moves from the show, 10 made up ones for the game, and leave 10 moves for you to create your own combos! How about that? And I think they need to take out melee it really sucks! And anyone think they should bring back the kick button? Also, keep the combat list from tenkaichi 2 but enhance it. Also, you know what I liked about b3? You had a chance to train and master you characters moves that was cool . T2 or t1 didn't allow you to do that because it had melee. Whelp lets here some feedback and your ideas maybe Spike will use it for the game.
Think about it most people want the characters to be individual if they take moves from the show then they will be individual. Plus new moves, I'm talking about combo moves not just beam attacks. To me melee is to general even for 150 characters....feedback.

very good ideas but it's not possible for ps2. theyre prolly gone take da ps2 to its limit whit bt3. but on da ps3 this'll definately be possible!:up:

[kbrooksgohan]

Thanks for the positive feedback appreciate it. Yeah, maybe next game it's coming out soon anyways....at least I hope so...

[The_Demon_King]

Thanks for the positive feedback appreciate it. Yeah, maybe next game it's coming out soon anyways....at least I hope so...

no problem man:up: and yeah da next dbz game is gone come out on ps3! believe it bro!:cool:

[kbrooksgohan]

B]Chains[/b]
Anybody like the idea of chains in a dragonball z game? I think they could replace it instead of rushes. Like you put in a command and then in order to do the chain you need to press them after a combo.

Energy Blast/Ball Dodge Options/ Costume Customization
Also, I think having different options one how to dodge an energy attack would be nice almost like Final Bout but way better......and I wouldn't mind having better customization( I thinking this could be for ps3) where you could buy items land create your own customized goku or any dbz character.

Like mixing the red shirt with a scouter or even saiyan armor with a scouter, plus freeza saga SS hair (Goku) would be awesome. So basically I'm saying you could customize the hair,eye wear, gi, wrist bands, and maybe even their attacks and attack styles too.

Attacks
On another note Majin Buu Gohan Absorbed should have his big pink energy ball he used against veggetto and he should have a ghost kamikaze who can shoot kamehameha and Masenko's just like the show.

Veggeto should get final kamehameha and he should be a combination of Goku's and Vegeta combo list plus new moves.

Last is mastering the moves
[B]The ability to learn combos like in b3 would be cool, because you had to learn them yourself since they weren't listed.

That's all FEEDBACK PLEASE!

[The_Demon_King]

B]Chains[/b]
Anybody like the idea of chains in a dragonball z game? I think they could replace it instead of rushes. Like you put in a command and then in order to do the chain you need to press them after a combo.

Energy Blast/Ball Dodge Options/ Costume Customization
Also, I think having different options one how to dodge an energy attack would be nice almost like Final Bout but way better......and I wouldn't mind having better customization( I thinking this could be for ps3) where you could buy items land create your own customized goku or any dbz character.

Like mixing the red shirt with a scouter or even saiyan armor with a scouter, plus freeza saga SS hair (Goku) would be awesome. So basically I'm saying you could customize the hair,eye wear, gi, wrist bands, and maybe even their attacks and attack styles too.

Attacks
On another note Majin Buu Gohan Absorbed should have his big pink energy ball he used against veggetto and he should have a ghost kamikaze who can shoot kamehameha and Masenko's just like the show.

Veggeto should get final kamehameha and he should be a combination of Goku's and Vegeta combo list plus new moves.

Last is mastering the moves
[B]The ability to learn combos like in b3 would be cool, because you had to learn them yourself since they weren't listed.

That's all FEEDBACK PLEASE!

9/10 GREAT ideas!!!:up::D

i love da idea of buuhan haven his ultimate he used against vegeto and vegeto haven his final kamehameha as well! dat should be his ultimate in base!

[Da Big Boss]

if you dont like my ideas just say i dont like them and why dont say ur ideas r so so stupid, THANX IN ADVANCE

My Ideas(Some of Them)

Sagas

Dragonball

1st World Tournament
Tenshinhan Saga
king Piccolo Saga
Piccolo Jr saga

Dragonball Gt

Lost Episodes
Complete Baby Saga
Complete Super 17 Saga
Complete Dragons Saga

PLAY STORY MODE AS VILLAN SIDE

Extra Events that should happen in story mode

Hyperbloic Chamber trap(That Part when Gotenks and Piccolo had to yell so they can get out

Try to hold radizt-b1 did it y bt3 dont do it

Kamekameha/Spirit Bomb-Try To beat cell/buu(These relly happen)

Characters
Dragonball/z/gt

GT Goten
SSJ Kid Gohan
Alternate Ultimate Gohan/he with the Supreme kai Alfit and Z sword(SDBZ did it)



Well I dont really care how much i need to wait, i dont care is this game realease in 2008, i just want the whole story, and real events

[xxjames89xx]

i already put up my ideas inthe other threat, hope this game fixes alot of things from previous tenkaichi games, good luck :)

[IluvTenkaichi]

if you dont like my ideas just say i dont like them and why dont say ur ideas r so so stupid, THANX IN ADVANCE

My Ideas(Some of Them)

Sagas

Dragonball

1st World Tournament
Tenshinhan Saga
king Piccolo Saga
Piccolo Jr saga

Dragonball Gt

Lost Episodes
Complete Baby Saga
Complete Super 17 Saga
Complete Dragons Saga

PLAY STORY MODE AS VILLAN SIDE

Extra Events that should happen in story mode

Hyperbloic Chamber trap(That Part when Gotenks and Piccolo had to yell so they can get out

Try to hold radizt-b1 did it y bt3 dont do it

Kamekameha/Spirit Bomb-Try To beat cell/buu(These relly happen)

Characters
Dragonball/z/gt

GT Goten
SSJ Kid Gohan
Alternate Ultimate Gohan/he with the Supreme kai Alfit and Z sword(SDBZ did it)



Well I dont really care how much i need to wait, i dont care is this game realease in 2008, i just want the whole story, and real events

I LOVE THESE IDEAS!

[Mystic Gohan]

if you dont like my ideas just say i dont like them and why dont say ur ideas r so so stupid, THANX IN ADVANCE

My Ideas(Some of Them)

Sagas

Dragonball

1st World Tournament
Tenshinhan Saga
king Piccolo Saga
Piccolo Jr saga

Dragonball Gt

Lost Episodes
Complete Baby Saga
Complete Super 17 Saga
Complete Dragons Saga

PLAY STORY MODE AS VILLAN SIDE

Extra Events that should happen in story mode

Hyperbloic Chamber trap(That Part when Gotenks and Piccolo had to yell so they can get out

Try to hold radizt-b1 did it y bt3 dont do it

Kamekameha/Spirit Bomb-Try To beat cell/buu(These relly happen)

Characters
Dragonball/z/gt

GT Goten
SSJ Kid Gohan
Alternate Ultimate Gohan/he with the Supreme kai Alfit and Z sword(SDBZ did it)



Well I dont really care how much i need to wait, i dont care is this game realease in 2008, i just want the whole story, and real events

Lets see No Dragon Ball saga, you know where they meet Pilaf and Yamcha?

And Its called the Grand Tour saga, "lost episodes sounds so, dubbed.

Other than that your ideas are average at best.

[kbrooksgohan]

Yo guys check out my post in the suggestion thread I have an idea that fits the graphics thread and this thread. Here's the vid it should what be mirage battling should look like it's at 57:00 check it out it's really cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbgXIBHBO24

[Da Big Boss]

More Ideas

Special Events.

Try to Get the Z-sword- that is a good one for me Gohan

Dogde/thoright the rocks-Gohan and Goten when they are practicing(Dont care spelling) for the world tournament




For me Tenkachi 3 is suppsot to have diferents things,( No fighting all the time)

[GPG]

I just want to give my idea. I used as a reference what Mr. Popo (the user, not the character in the series, lol) said in his post and, with his permission I'll put it here

Creata A Character

When I started playing the game, I thought that I could REALLY have my own fighter. But when I noticed that it was just for trading codes to have some characters with Z items I got dissapointed. So, my very big wish is to have a BT3 with a create a character with this options


General info 1st:
- Choose race. (Namekian/Saiyan/Human/Android/Kai)
- Choose gender. (Female/Male/Non)
- Choose Hero or villian.

Appareance 2nd:
- Heigh: In centimeters or inches/feet. Wouldn't mind which of those 2 units of mesaure (This will not affect in the characters strength)(If the character is too small, he/she will tkae the body of a kid, but he/she will still have the chance to have all sorts of body type)
- Body type: I would put Slim (like Super 17 or Super Buu), Muscles(like most guys such as Goku, Gohan, Yamcha and so on) Very big Muscles (Like Super Vegeta or Super Trunks, LSSJ Broly or Bojak), Chubby and Fat (like Majin Buu). All of these characteristics wouldn't mean more/less strength, but maybe would affect on speed (being big muscle characters and fat ones a little slower than the other ones) and also, the size would be proporcional to the height.
- Choose hair (facial hair also for men), face and skin color.
- Choose clothes and additionals.
- Voices: At least, 3 or 4 different types of voices for each race and gender


Transformations, weapon and Attacks 3rd:
- Transformation. (Saiyan*-SS, USS OR SS2 and Great Ape (All transformations ar optional)) (Namekian-Giant form) (Human-FULL Power) (Android-Fusion)
- Weapon. (Z-Sword Ex)
- Choose the different sets of moves for your character
- Choose two Blast 2 and one Ultimate Blast(If the character has some common blasts like full power energy wave or high speed rush, it would be fun if you could edit those names to something you would like (for example, instead of full power energy wave, the attack will appear with the name of Dave's Smashing Wave in the corner were the attack's name appear).
- I would also think that could be a good idea to have fusions (just with the fusion dance) between 2 created characters.


* For Saiyans I would just allow up to SSJ2 because if we get the character to a very high level it would be an hyper duper dude better than Gogeta SSJ4 in stats, and that is not a very good idea in my opinion. Also, I think that it could be possible to have a saiyan with tail that can transform into SSJ and a great ape (for example, if I want to turn into SSJ2 I would move the analog stick and press 1, ussing 2 blast stocks, in the case i'm playing with the wiimote and nunchuk, and for a greate ape, I would have to move the analog stick to the right and use 3 blast stocks)


Hope you like the ideas and that the Atari people read them and add these suggestions to the DBZ: BT3 game.

If this thing of create a character happends, I would definitley buy the game


cheers!

PS: thanks to Mr. Popo for letting me use his main idea

[supergokhan]

when someone weaker than you punches you wont move back bt just stand there,still taking th same damage bt not moving back e.g wen final cooler really wacks super saiyan goku in the stomach but he doesnt even blink tht wud b cool

[GPG]

*delete this please*

[supergokhan]

every decent charchter (not videl or hercule e.t.c) shud hav an energy wave and a high speed rush they wud both use only 1 ki bar

[Mystic Gohan]

Yo guys check out my post in the suggestion thread I have an idea that fits the graphics thread and this thread. Here's the vid it should what be mirage battling should look like it's at 57:00 check it out it's really cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbgXIBHBO24

Good game by the way, I own with Itachi. Anyway you are basically saying you want to bring back Dragon Rush from B3. Thats basically what it was but on much shorter basis. I agree 100%.

[rpgnate345]

Good game by the way, I own with Itachi. Anyway you are basically saying you want to bring back Dragon Rush from B3. Thats basically what it was but on much shorter basis. I agree 100%.

Dragon Rush was too freaking cheap. We have rushes, which are already bad enough.

[Mystic Gohan]

Well there are rush blocks in BT2, not like anyone has the time to use it.

[ultimate_saiyan]

They have to make the AI much harder on Dueling mode.

[pecavuk]

My ideas:

1) Noy every character should have High Speed Rush.
2) Every character should have it's own special moves that occured in the show.

3)Make the Dragon Ball Story more interesting.Like a free roming and exploring before and after the battle.Chat with other characters.

Otherwise everything is pretty coooooool.:D

[kbrooksgohan]

Good game by the way, I own with Itachi. Anyway you are basically saying you want to bring back Dragon Rush from B3. Thats basically what it was but on much shorter basis. I agree 100%.

Not, exactly,this idea is for the mirage battle when players move really fast and warp off the screen and appear in different places on screen. Personally I'd like more freedom than b3 because that got old doing the three button sequences over and over. They could mix it up and incorpate it into regular game play. And give you options like chaining to combos or something cool like that...anyway thanks for giving me some feedback.

On another note here are some attacks some characters are missing.

Majin Buu gotenks absorbed
1.change galatic donuts -into a favorite technique so you can combine it super kamehameha if you want. And the number of donuts you use depends on how many favorite technique numbers you have. Like if you have one you shoot one donut and so on.
2.Super kamehameha- pink one.
3. Super ghost kamikaze attack- one ghost though.
4. I think all buu's need the roll up ball attack -except Majin buu fat.
5.Special beam cannon-but more like how he did it in the show.

Majin Buu Gohan Absorbed
1. Galatic donut -as a favorite technique he used them when he fought vegeta and goku but now you can shoot more and red this time.
2. That huge pink energy ball -he used against Veggetto as an Ultimate
3. Super Kamikaze attack -this time you can make more of them maybe like 10 but they all can shoot kamehameha's and masenko beams so maybe 5 of them shoot kamehameha's and other masenko. The blast should follow you.
4. Roll up ball attack.
5.Super Kamehameha attack- bigger and still pink Ultimate 1.
6.Candy beam -as a favorite technique though.

Note- I think when you use techniques like Galatic donuts chained with super kamehameha the opponent should have a chance to escape from the donuts by pressing button commands. If he looses then you blast him with the combined force of both attacks. If wins he escapes but you still can fire the kamehameha.

[Vegettofan14]

I only have one urge to make this game amazing:

Create. A. Character.

[morgan2042]

welcome to the forums, King Chiaotzu. your idea is ok, but why all the kai's. it does'nt make sense to put all of them, when the only one who really fights was supreme kai. the rest of them didn't really fight at all, correct me if i am wrong.

[Mystic Gohan]

Not, exactly,this idea is for the mirage battle when players move really fast and warp off the screen and appear in different places on screen. Personally I'd like more freedom than b3 because that got old doing the three button sequences over and over. They could mix it up and incorpate it into regular game play. And give you options like chaining to combos or something cool like that...anyway thanks for giving me some feedback.

3 button sequence? That depends on how good you are at the game. Anyway needless to say I agree with the mirage battle but like the generic teleport rush attack in BT2 its all controlled with the CPU so it will only be good to look at but thats all.

[SSJGotenZ92]

Post Number 2:

DRAGONBALL:

PIlaf Robot (With Mai & Shu)
Demon King Piccolo
Chi Chi {from world tournament}

DRAGONBALL Z:

Long Haired Gohan (SSJ)
Pui Pui
Future Gohan (SSJ)

DRAGONBALL Z MOVIES:

Android 14
Gokua
Android 15
Hirudegarn (1st Form)

DRAGONBALL GT:

Adult Goten (SSJ)
GT Kid Goku (SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3)
Gt Vegeta (SSJ, SSJ2)
Adult Trunks (SSJ)
General Rildo (Transformed State 2, Transformed 3)
Nouva Shenron (Transformed)
Eis Shenron
Oceanus Shenron (Dragon Form)

[Rexobias]

welcome to the forums, King Chiaotzu. your idea is ok, but why all the kai's. it does'nt make sense to put all of them, when the only one who really fights was supreme kai. the rest of them didn't really fight at all, correct me if i am wrong.

I think you are talking about the Supreme Kais (Kaioshins in Japonese), sorry if i am wrong. They appear fighting Kid Buu in a flashback of Kibitoshin...with them we can recreate the past, and extend the story mode. We see them fighting more than King Vegeta and Cold...

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I Posted this in the suggestion thread, and i want some comments, but not flames, if you understand what i mean.

The Almost Perfect Characters List (to me):

DragonBall:

Master Mutaito
Kid Goku (Base, Oozaru)
Kid Krillin
Teen Yamcha
Ox King
Master Rochi (Base, Max Power)
Pilaf (Mech, Shuu/Mai Combined Mech)
Bacterian
Giran
Ninja Murasaki
General Blue
General Tao
Cyber Tao
Assistant Black/Giant RR Mech
Akkuman
Mirra
Grandpa Gohan
Chiaotzu
Tien (Base, Tiencha)
Yajirobe
Tambourine
Drum
Piccolo Daimao (Old, Young)
Mr. Popo
Kami-Sama (Base, Shen)
Teen ChiChi
Teen Goku
Piccolo Jr. (Base, Giant)


DragonBall Z:

Goku (Base, SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, Vegito, Super Vegito, Super Gogeta, Gokule)
Piccolo (Base, Fusion With Nail, Super Namek)
Kid Gohan (Base, Oozaru, Long Hair, Long Hair SSJ)
Krillin
Raditz (Base, Oozaru)
Yamcha (Base, Tiencha)
Saibamen
Nappa (Base, Oozaru)
Vegeta Scouter (Base, Oozaru)
Appule
Frieza Soldier
Cui
Dodoria
Zarbon (Base, Post-Transformation)
Nail
Guldo
Recoome
Burter
Jeice
Ginyu
Frieza (1st Form, 2nd Form, 3rd Form, Final Form, Full Power)
Gashyu/Spice (Base, Makyo Star Full Power)
Vinegar (Base, Makyo Star Full Power)
Tado/Mustard
Salt
Garlic Jr. (Base, Super Garlic Jr.)
King Cold
Mecha Frieza
Future Gohan (Base, SSJ)
Trunks Sword (Base, SSJ)
Teen Gohan (Base, SSJ, SSJ2)
Vegeta (Base, SSJ, Super Vegeta);
Trunks (Base, SSJ, Super Trunks);
Android #20/Dr. Gero
Android #19
Android #18
Android #17
Android #16
Hercule (Base, Gokule)
Cell (1st Form, 2nd Form, Perfect Form, USSJ Form, Perfect)
Cell Jr.
Pikkon
Gohan (Base, SSJ, SSJ2, Great Saiyaman, Ultimate Gohan)
Videl (Base, Great Saiyaman 2)
Vegeta Second Form (Base, SSJ, SSJ2, Majin vegeta, Vegito, Super Vegito, Super Gogeta)
Kid Goten (Base, SSJ, Gotenks, Gotenks SSJ, Gotenks SSJ3);
Kid Trunks (Base, SSJ, Gotenks, Gotenks SSJ, Gotenks SSJ3);
Mighty Mask With Goten/Trunks (Base, SSJ)
Dai Kaioshin
North Kaioshin
South Kaioshin
West Kaioshin
East Kaioshin/Supreme Kai (Base, Kibitoshin)
Kibito (Base, Kibitoshin)
Spopovitch
Yamu
Pui Pui
Yakon
Dabura
Majin Buu
Majin Buu Pure Evil (Base, Super Buu, Piccolo Absorbed, Gotenks Absorbed, Gohan Absorbed, Muscular

Buu, Kid Buu)
Kid Pan
Kid Uub

King Vegeta (Base, Oozaru)
Prince/Kid Vegeta (Base, Oozaru)
Panbukin/Shugesh (Base, Oozaru)
Seripa/Fasha (Base, Oozaru)
Toma/Tora (Base, Oozaru)
Bardock (Base, Oozaru)
Turles (Base, Oozaru)
Angira
Medamotcha
Slug (Base, Giant)
Dore
Naise
Salza
Cooler (Base, Final Form)
Meta-Cooler
Android #15
Android #14
Android #13 (Base, Fusion)
Broly (Base, SSJ, Legendary SSJ)
Bio-Broly
Gokua/Kogu (Base, Full Power)
Bido
Bujin
Zangya
Bojack (Base, Full Power)
Janemba (Base, Final Form)
Tapion
Hirudegarn (1st Form, Final Form)
Hatchyakk


Dragon Ball GT:

GT Kid Goku (Base, SSJ, SSJ3, Golden Oozaru, SSJ4, Gogeta SSJ4)
GT Vegeta (Base, SSJ, Golden Oozaru, Gogeta SSJ4)
Pan
GT Trunks (Base, SSJ)
GT Goten (Base, SSJ)
GT Gohan (Base, SSJ)
Bra
Uub (Base, Majuub)
Ledgic
Mutchy Mutchy (Base, True Form)
Luud
General Rilldo (1st Form, 2nd Form, Final Form)
Baby (Kid Baby, Baby, Baby-Vegeta, Super Baby-Vegeta, Super Baby-Vegeta 2, Golden Oozaru)
Super 17
Haze Shenron
Rage Shenron (Base, Giant Form)
Oceanus Shenron (Princess Oto, True Form)
Naturon Shenron
Eis Shenron
Nova Shenron (Base, Full Power)
Syn Shenron (Base, Super Syn Shenron)
Goku Jr. (Base, SSJ)
Vegeta Jr. (Base, SSJ)

I know this is a big list, but with this, we will have almost all the characters of the series, and you can recreate perfectly all the sagas. This will give the game much more playing-hours.

I free some spaces puting some characters in a form of a similar character (example: Majin vegeta).

Some characters are easy to add caus their models are already in the game:
-The 6 characters of Wii must appear in the PS2 version of BT3;
-Drum appear in a Blast of Piccolo Daimo for Wii;
-Mr. Popo appears in the Story Mode of BT2;

Story Mode:

Start With Bardock Story;

Dragon Ball:

-Emperor Pilaf;
-21st Tenkaichi Budokai;
-Red Ribbon Army;
-Fortuneteller Baba;
-22nd Tenkaichi Budokai;
-Piccolo Daimao;
-Piccolo Junior/23rd Tenkaichi Budokai.

Dragon Ball Z:

-Raditz;
-Saiyans;
-Namek;
-Ginyu;
-Frieza;
-Garli Jr.;
-Trunks;
-Androids;
-Imperfect Cell;
-Perfect Cell;
-Cell Games;
-Other World Tournament;
-Great Saiyaman;
-25th Tenkaichi Budokai;
-Babidi;
-Majin Buu;
-Fusion;
-Kid Buu;
-26th Tenkaichi Budokai;

...and All the Movies

Dragon Ball GT:

-Black Star Dragon Ball;
-Baby;
-Super Android 17;
-Shadow Dragon;
-World Tournament;

You can add 3 more blasts to each characters:
- L2+Right+Triangle;
- L2+Left+Triangle;
- L2+Down+Triangle (not in max power mode);

Redefine some blasts (For example: Kid Goku Ultimate Blast must be Oozaru Punch - he kills Piccolo Daimao With this).

You can create bigger stages and add More like:
-Space (already in the Wii);
-Old Tenkaichi Budokai;
-New Planet Vegeta;
-Tsufurujin Planet;
-Dr. Myo Planet;
-Hell;
-Mr. Kaio planet;
-Janemba Movie;

I know the character List its not gonna happen but i believe it in a future game...

Thanks for your attention.

[Mtwarrior]

Alright so i've been a DBZ fan for my whole life and need to let this out. I want to let the atari staff know what should be in the game and what most gamers want.

First off More characters is always the way to go. I want all the characters that any hero fought. Like garlic juniors men, a few of frieza's men, etc..

I want there to be more namek levels. There is just one level for namek but it should be. There should be at least 2. One could be the one you have in Tenkaichi 2 and another could be Guru's House. Another could be just a village.

More effects in the game are great. Make little ditches form when someone fires an attack at the ground or when someone flys into the ground. Also maybe when Zarbon fires that Elegant Blaster make it so it has that A-Bomb explosion like in the show. I don't want a cut scene for it, just a big explosion. Another effect people want is when someone is in the water their hair will go up. Better effects make the game really fun.

OH WAIT ONE MORE EFFECT: Make it so if you shoot a kamehameha at a building make it so theres a hole in it. Don't make it be destroyed unless it is a bigger one. And when Buildings blow up make more rubble because most disapears.

More levels can include places such as Space, Planet Vegeta, Planet Cannassa, Under Kami's lookout. ALSO READ THIS: Make it so that you can go higher up in stages because Some people might just want to air battle and their is not much room for it, like at kami's lookout in Tenkaichi2 their is a air space but there is a barrier at the bottom so it's weird.

I have more ideas but this is the major points. ALSO: Don't make the Japanese version Different from American Versions. We all want the same thing.

I hope you read this and make these changes. I hope Tenkaichi 3 is awesome. :up:

EDIT: Some Characters that must be in BT3:
Adult Goten
Gohan in GT
Hercule bald
Adult Kid Goku Gt
( I havent watched Gt that much but the andriods should be in it liek the silver one and bebe's blue form)
ALSO ONE LAST THING: Frieza's transformations should have the voices of the ones in the series. There not all the same. The 2nd form is darker and 3rd is more alien like.

[The Flame]

Hmmm........ More characters and stages are good, but what this game really needs is far greater. You see, every time they add a new character, it's harder to make it seem unique from the rest of them fighting wise. Well, I've solved that problem(i posted this idea in T3: Return of the E.S.S). It basically involves the skill system of B3, but these skills are more exclusive, and are almost all based on the race of the character(see the topic in bold for complete details). It's not like z items used to lv up the character, in fact, another one of my ideas involves a B3-like leveling up system as well. the lvs should go much higher, however, and there should be more features to lv up(like knockback resistance, knockback power, attack speed, etc). This will add many more options for the game, and it will give password fights more variety.

[morgan2042]

thanks for the info Rexobias.

[Mtwarrior]

dont make the evolution z. just make power levels and you can level in duels also not just story.

[Rexobias]

thanks for the info Rexobias.

My friend, just to add some more info, they appear in the episode that Kid Buu destroy the earth.

The Kaioshins are:

West Kaioshin - A girl, the first to be killed by Kid Buu

South Kaioshin - A Muscular Guy, the stronger one, the first to be absorbed by Kid Buu - Kid Buu turns a very Muscular form after this ( http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/95/150px-Buff_buu.jpg - one of the transformations that i wish).

North Kaioshin - He seems to be old, but he uses the Z-Sword in fight :D

Dai Kaioshin - The most important Kaioshin, he is fat. Muscular Buu absorb him and turns in the Fat Buu. In his image (in the link below) you can see his clothes, the same of Fat Buu.

You can see pics here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Kaioshin#Kaioshin

I hope it helped...

P.S: I edited it to correct some errors...

[morgan2042]

that help alot, okay the characters would make the story mode long. what was i thinking, those characters would be awesome in the game.

[Steven.]

ok good. we have more characters. um, could goku and vegeta turn ss4 without choosing them in that state, cause i was really looking forward to transforming into ss4. and please do not make 4 vegetas just 2. vegeta with scouter and vegeta. vegeta should have ss, super vegta, ss2, majin, then ss4 instead of putting them into different characters.

atari staff members could u make the game like one entire stage. what i mean is that EG. if u pick kamis lookout, when u go off, u should be ablle to fly down instead of just floating there and end up figthing in the city instead of just kamis lookout. i hope there is no more walls blocking us from flying away cause i want to be able to go anywhere in 1 stage. i was fighting at the islands and i wish i could of flew to the rocky moutains or the ice place or even the city. so i wish u guys could do that a lot of DBZ FANS r goin to love.

Do not double post, next time use the edit button, thanks! ~ Marby

[Mtwarrior]

thats what i was thinking but it wouldnt be really following tenkaichi 2 that should be the ultimant one.

[supergokhan]

atari staff members could u make the game like one entire stage. what i mean is that EG. if u pick kamis lookout, when u go off, u should be ablle to fly down instead of just floating there and end up figthing in the city instead of just kamis lookout. i hope there is no more walls blocking us from flying away cause i want to be able to go anywhere in 1 stage. i was fighting at the islands and i wish i could of flew to the rocky moutains or the ice place or even the city. so i wish u guys could do that a lot of DBZ FANS r goin to love.

tht is a fantastic idea,yeah you cn still choose where to start off in tho.there shud be a namek version to as well as separate stages like HFIL,inside buu,king kais planet e.t.c:up:great idea mate:D

[Mystic Gohan]

Alright so i've been a DBZ fan for my whole life and need to let this out. I want to let the atari staff know what should be in the game and what most gamers want.

First off More characters is always the way to go. I want all the characters that any hero fought. Like garlic juniors men, a few of frieza's men, etc..

I want there to be more namek levels. There is just one level for namek but it should be. There should be at least 2. One could be the one you have in Tenkaichi 2 and another could be Guru's House. Another could be just a village.

More effects in the game are great. Make little ditches form when someone fires an attack at the ground or when someone flys into the ground. Also maybe when Zarbon fires that Elegant Blaster make it so it has that A-Bomb explosion like in the show. I don't want a cut scene for it, just a big explosion. Another effect people want is when someone is in the water their hair will go up. Better effects make the game really fun.

OH WAIT ONE MORE EFFECT: Make it so if you shoot a kamehameha at a building make it so theres a hole in it. Don't make it be destroyed unless it is a bigger one. And when Buildings blow up make more rubble because most disapears.

More levels can include places such as Space, Planet Vegeta, Planet Cannassa, Under Kami's lookout. ALSO READ THIS: Make it so that you can go higher up in stages because Some people might just want to air battle and their is not much room for it, like at kami's lookout in Tenkaichi2 their is a air space but there is a barrier at the bottom so it's weird.

I have more ideas but this is the major points. ALSO: Don't make the Japanese version Different from American Versions. We all want the same thing.

I hope you read this and make these changes. I hope Tenkaichi 3 is awesome. :up:

EDIT: Some Characters that must be in BT3:
Adult Goten
Gohan in GT
Hercule bald
Adult Kid Goku Gt
( I havent watched Gt that much but the andriods should be in it liek the silver one and bebe's blue form)
ALSO ONE LAST THING: Frieza's transformations should have the voices of the ones in the series. There not all the same. The 2nd form is darker and 3rd is more alien like.


Adult Kid Goku GT??:haha::haha::noob:

[Mtwarrior]

yeah i was in a rush

[SSJ5Vegeta]

All right so I've been a DBZ fan for my whole life and need to let this out. I want to let the Atari staff know what should be in the game and what most gamers want.
Seriously, you have been here less than half a month. Do not write stuff like that when you do not have a clue:weird: All the members that have been here since the start of Feb would at least know the number of characters we will get. 20 new, transformations included. So why are you making such a large foolish wishlist, when you already know it is impossible? Marby (a mod) already made a thread named "Think twice before posting a new thread" which obviously haven't kept you from post useless ideas in a new thread, instead of just posting it in the official thread. But either way, I will be honest to say that those ideas are some of the worst I have seen. So I wouldn't count or replies such as "Look at my ideas! Everyone want them in!".

Good day Sir!:noob:

[Mtwarrior]

Seriously, you have been here less than half a month. Do not write stuff like that when you do not have a clue:weird: All the members that have been here since the start of Feb would at least know the number of characters we will get. 20 new, transformations included. So why are you making such a large foolish wishlist, when you already know it is impossible? Marby (a mod) already made a thread named "Think twice before posting a new thread" which obviously haven't kept you from post useless ideas in a new thread, instead of just posting it in the official thread. But either way, I will be honest to say that those ideas are some of the worst I have seen. So I wouldn't count or replies such as "Look at my ideas! Everyone want them in!".

Good day Sir!:noob:

I know that there are 20 new including transformations. I dont have to be apart of a site to know what the fans want.:mad: And I said most so your some of the few.:o I don't want this in BT3 because i know ts a lot to ask for but these are the things neede dto make the ultimant dragonball z game. And do not tell me if I have a clue or not. You don't even know me.:weird:

I posted this as a suggestion.

Peace:noob:

[kbrooksgohan]

Moves That Some Characters are missing.


Vegeta Second Form Super Saiyan 2

Energy Hug- Needs the attack he did against Majin Buu Gohan Absorbed the one were he shoots like 20 energy blasts and they all fall on the opponent.


Goku Super Saiyan Four

Dragon Fist Swirl- Needs the Dragon Fist he used on Ice Shenron the one where it wrapes around the city and slams on the opponent.

Omega Shenron

Needs the attacks he used from all the Dragons because his move list is way to short.

Gotenks Super Saiyan

Galatic Donut- should be a favorite technique .

Gotenks Super Saiyan 3

Super Battle Bomber- move he used where there were like 10 ghosts surrounding Buu and he sent them flying at him.

[Rexobias]

"You can add 3 more blasts to each characters:
- L2+Right+Triangle;
- L2+Left+Triangle;
- L2+Down+Triangle (not in max power mode);"

This is one of the important things, with this we get 3 more moves, or more, with L2+Up, Left and Right+Triangle in Max Power Mode.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

I know that there are 20 new including transformations. I dont have to be apart of a site to know what the fans want.:mad: And I said most so your some of the few.:o I don't want this in BT3 because i know ts a lot to ask for but these are the things neede dto make the ultimant dragonball z game. And do not tell me if I have a clue or not. You don't even know me.:weird:

I posted this as a suggestion.

Peace:noob:
Sorry for that one. Look in the other thread;) But I think you should still limit it to 20 characters or less. I draw my conclusions too early when I said that you didn't have a clue. But please try to avoid comments like "The DBZ fans of Atari wants..." etc. Since your own ideas are most often based on your own thoughts:up:

[Mtwarrior]

Sorry for that one. Look in the other thread;) But I think you should still limit it to 20 characters or less. I draw my conclusions too early when I said that you didn't have a clue. But please try to avoid comments like "The DBZ fans of Atari wants..." etc. Since your own ideas are most often based on your own thoughts:up:

well half of the ideas are quoted from people on this forum. I took some from my brother too he seemed a bit disapointed in the game because of vegeta having too many seperate forms, he thinks Vegeta should have one form and thought i'd be cool if you can turn super sayin in scouter form like in budakai 3.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

I agree on that. Vegeta should have only one form:

Vegeta (Base, SSJ, USSJ, SSJ2, SS4, Majin, Great Ape, Vegito, Super Vegito, Super Gogeta, SSJ4 Gogeta)

[maxeclipse14]

i will express this one final time (if this is the last dbz game), i want to send somebody to the next dimension. screw the teen rating or make two versions. a version with more uncut footage and another kiddy version like the ones we have now. sure, bt2 is the best to date (bt1 was supposedly the ultimate dbz game, not) but in order to be true the dbz story, tien's arm has to get cut off

[SSJ5Vegeta]

I think it did in Budokai 1. Not completely sure though.

[Mystic Gohan]

Seriously, you have been here less than half a month. Do not write stuff like that when you do not have a clue:weird: All the members that have been here since the start of Feb would at least know the number of characters we will get. 20 new, transformations included. So why are you making such a large foolish wishlist, when you already know it is impossible? Marby (a mod) already made a thread named "Think twice before posting a new thread" which obviously haven't kept you from post useless ideas in a new thread, instead of just posting it in the official thread. But either way, I will be honest to say that those ideas are some of the worst I have seen. So I wouldn't count or replies such as "Look at my ideas! Everyone want them in!".

Good day Sir!:noob:

Harsh dude, well at least you are starting to act like a vet.

[supreme vegeta]

There should be a Plan To Eradicate The saiyans saga in Tenkaichi3. That would be so sweet!

[Steven.]

um, please make only 2 vegetas. it was very frutrating 2 have more than 2 vegetas. vegeta wit scouter and vegeta thats it. vegeta should have ss, super vegeta, ss2, majin vegta, ss4 all in 1 character, and goku. instead of having goku in ss4 in another character just put him in 1 so we can tranform into him cause it is goin to be cool and we dont have to train him seperate from the other goku and vegeta. in game tranformation

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Harsh dude, well at least you are starting to act like a vet.
I know I was way too harsh in that post. I apologized to him in the other thread:up:

[SSJGotenZ92]

um, please make only 2 vegetas. it was very frutrating 2 have more than 2 vegetas. vegeta wit scouter and vegeta thats it. vegeta should have ss, super vegeta, ss2, majin vegta, ss4 all in 1 character, and goku. instead of having goku in ss4 in another character just put him in 1 so we can tranform into him cause it is goin to be cool and we dont have to train him seperate from the other goku and vegeta. in game tranformation
I find that unecesary. Vegeta has that many forms to go along tih his transfromations. He obviously doesnt use SSJLv2 anymore so it wouldn't be right to have that transformation come before SSJ2. Which is the reason Super Vegeat Was not included in B3. Also Vegeta can't turn Oozru anymore so it also would not be correct. I say this:

Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Android Saga Vegeta
Buu Saga Vegeta who can transform directly to Majin Vegeta (Like Gohan and saiyaman)
[Just like in t2]
But add Gt Vegeta that transforms into SSJ4

Im Jus Saiying.

Yea I KNo im a "NOOB" but i do kno wat im talkin about:dbz3_7:

[SSJ5Vegeta]

No, you do not :p j/k

In my opinion there should only be two Vegetas. That is just because of the moon transformation they included.
1 - Vegeta (Base, Oozaru)
2 - Vegeta (Base, SSJ, USSJ, SSJ2, SSJ4 + Majin, Golden Oozaru)

That is all we really need.

Btw, newbie is the common word used for new users. Noob is the word used for stupid people. So I hope you were referring to the first one ;) Anyway, welcome to the forums! :)

[SSJGotenZ92]

No, you do not :p j/k

In my opinion there should only be two Vegetas. That is just because of the moon transformation they included.
1 - Vegeta (Base, Oozaru)
2 - Vegeta (Base, SSJ, USSJ, SSJ2, SSJ4 + Majin, Golden Oozaru)

That is all we really need.

Btw, newbie is the common word used for new users. Noob is the word used for stupid people. So I hope you were referring to the first one ;) Anyway, welcome to the forums! :)
:Dmy mistake yea Newbie:D

But do you agree that vegeta should be able to transform directly to Mjin Vegeta

[Weatherby]

I agree with SSJGotenZ92, thats just way too many transformation's for one character. 3 Vegeta's could be okay, having post Majin Vegeta go ss, ss2, golden ape, and ss4. The Cell saga Vegeta could go ss, uss, then majin, but it sort of doesn't make sense. If they changed it to 2 vegeta's they would probably shaft some of his transformations, like budokai 3, so 3 would work okay, but I don't mind 4.

[Steven.]

look SSJGOTENZ92. everyone only wants 2 vegetas. cause for 1 instant everyone wants to have all the vegtas to tranform ingame. vegeta, ssj, super vegta (cell saga), ssj2, majin vegeta, and then ssj4 vegeta instead of them all being in different characters, n having 2 train them all wit the evolution z.:eek: and the second vegeta should be the one wit the scouter. cause that 1 can change into the great ape. n there should only be 1 goku instead of putting them separate. goku and ssj4 goku should be in 1 character and it should be ingame transformation.:up:

also in bt2 whenever u reach max power and u press left, right ,up , down, and circle u teleport in the direction of the button u press. i was just thinkin that can u put that in bt3 but dont make us have to be in max power to do it cause its really frustrating trying to dodge a kamehemeha wave by pressing cicle rigth when it is about to hit u cause the results always doesnt come out the way u want it to be.

Don't double post, next time use the edit button, thanks! ~ Marby

[SSJGotenZ92]

I agree with SSJGotenZ92, thats just way too many transformation's for one character. 3 Vegeta's could be okay, having post Majin Vegeta go ss, ss2, golden ape, and ss4. The Cell saga Vegeta could go ss, uss, then majin, but it sort of doesn't make sense. If they changed it to 2 vegeta's they would probably shaft some of his transformations, like budokai 3, so 3 would work okay, but I don't mind 4.
Hey Steven Get ya facts correct obviosly if you read wat it says above you can see Not everyone wants 1 vegeta.

SSJ-> SSj2 NOT USS cause transforming form big and bulky to thin and lanky would be stupid. DUH:eek2:!

[SSJ5Vegeta]

I do not think that is any serious issue. First you get the hair and the bulky muscles, then you turn into SSJ2 with powerful lightnings. I think people will notice the difference in strength and speed between those two ;)

[Kamiccolo33]

OK, I can solve the Vegeta problem.

Vegeta (Base, SS1, USS, SS2, SS4m Great Ape, Gold Great Ape)

Equip "Babidi's Mind Control" on Vegeta to get Majin Vegeta.
While this item is equipped to Vegeta, his selection on the menu is Majin Vegeta, and he starts the battle as Majin Vegeta. Taking this item off will result in just the normal Vegeta.

Equip "Blutz Wave Amplifier" on Vegeta to enable him to transform to SS4.
Equipping this can let Vegeta go to SS4 because he could never do it by himself on the show.

Equip "Saiyan Tail" to Vegeta to give his model a tail. This enables him to look at the moon or his blutz ball and transform. Removing this item results in him losing his tail. This applies for all Saiyans who have the ability to transform at the full moon.

This will solve all the costume problems etc.

Costumes
Saiyan Saga with scouter
Namek Saga
Cell Saga
Buu Saga
GT outfit

Problem solved!!!:up:

[SSJ5Vegeta]

I disagree. You shouldn't have to equip all those items in order to get the transformation you want available. I will explain my setup below a bit better:

1 - Vegeta (Base, Oozaru)
2 - Vegeta (Base, SSJ, USSJ, SSJ2, SSJ4 + Majin, Golden Oozaru)

The first Vegeta is of course Saiyan Saga Vegeta. He should have the ability to turn into an oozaru whenever there is full moon. He is already stated to be in the game through screenshots, so no need to change on that. He does also have his unique set of moves that should be picked from the Saiyan, but also Namek Saga.

The second Vegeta is for the rest of the sagas. His moves in base form didn't change much during the series. The only thing important is that they do not make him able to turn into SSJ4 and such in Cell Saga etc. The "+" indicates that you will have to equip an item in order to get the form in battle. "Babidi's Mind Control" was the capsule used in Budokai 3, and I do also think this one should be in Tenkaichi 3. However, he should start in the Majin Vegeta form when the battle starts. Golden Oozaru won't be used that much as he is one of the main characters. Therefore I think it should only be the Blutz Wave item that should make him able to turn into Golden Oozaru.

[Mikkie_]

Equiping those items would just be a hassle...

[snova]

i think its a good idea that kid gohan transform into the monkey like the others (nappa vegeta bardock etc) i think thats fair

[supergokhan]

i think its a good idea that kid gohan transform into the monkey like the others (nappa vegeta bardock etc) i think thats fair

yeah,when i first played T2 i wondered if you had to unlock his oozaru because it seems weird having oozarus for people you didnt c transform and not one for someone u did:D

[Steven.]

omg!! it takes way 2 long 2 train up more than 1 vegeta. so all im saying is that we should only have 2 vegetas 2 make it easier on everyone. so we dont have 2 add or take of stuff off of different vegetas.:mad:

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Vegeta [Saiyan, Namek]
Vegeta [Android, Cell, Buu, GT]

That should do it. With the first Vegeta you should just be able to switch outfits in order to have the shoulder pads or not ;)

[PhantomFighter]

All these guys have to do is make the opponent get vaporized when KO'ed with a B2/UB

No cutscene for the transformation. You know that sound when super saiyan happens...everyone should have that when they reach max power. super with the light coming out of their torso though...too much.

and oh man...I feel like using profanity...heavy crush doesn't knock them through the "totally destructable environment"
really takes the fun out of the combo.

The air combos are kind of dull. It is not cool that those and the dragon tornado must end the same... add a punishing attack variation...IMPROVISE

the real future gohan plz
would be nice if kid gohan could transform into the great ape while in battle

how bout screen shake and upheavals when gathering ki
I get a bunch of ideas when I play. I can play for hours straight. I'm innovated and talented...must be cuz I'm precocious *hire me*

[Mtwarrior]

All these guys have to do is make the opponent get vaporized when KO'ed with a B2/UB

No cutscene for the transformation. You know that sound when super saiyan happens...everyone should have that when they reach max power. super with the light coming out of their torso though...too much.
Best ideas

[Marby]

I noticed that some people, like Mtwarrior0, are making multiple posts in the Dragonball Z Game Series Suggestion Thread. Next time, please edit your first post. You are not allowed to have more then 1 post in that thread. Thanks! ;):up:

[Mtwarrior]

I noticed that some people, like Mtwarrior0, are making multiple posts in the Dragonball Z Game Series Suggestion Thread. Next time, please edit your first post. You are not allowed to have more then 1 post in that thread. Thanks! ;):up:

but what if people get more ideas. if they edit there first post most people wont see it.

[Marby]

but what if people get more ideas. if they edit there first post most people wont see it.
Then you also post your new idea here, this is the place where you can discuss idea's and post as many times as you want. :)

[Mtwarrior]

Then you also post your new idea here, this is the place where you can discuss idea's and post as many times as you want. :)

oh i see now. Well I hope they read both these topics. Thanks again Marby.
:D

[Steven.]

Vegeta [Saiyan, Namek]
Vegeta [Android, Cell, Buu, GT]

That should do it. With the first Vegeta you should just be able to switch outfits in order to have the shoulder pads or not ;)

thanks man it seems ur the only 1 that agrees.:up:

and when u get sent flying instead of tapping circle can we use the first tenkaichi 1 where we press the 3 buttons in order.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Well, I think that Saiyan and Namek Saga is kind of the same. Sure he gets a lot of new moves, but not that many that they can't put in all of them ;)

[kbrooksgohan]

That's why more than 3 moves is a must! And the capsules!

[adult_gohan]

Here is some of my good idea :up:


When 2 characters dash at each other and when they collide a big crater forms underneath them

When you actually blow up the earth there is a mini game sequence that gives you 10 sec. to escape from earth and dash into space or another planet.
when you do a kamehameha wave it will actually push your opponent back instead of going through them.

Put craters in the ground
when your character powers up you actually change the environment: falling moutains, craters, trees and rock will float in the air.

When your opponent gets smashed into the ground it will leave a big or small crater from where you left off.


but i don't think that all that will be in bt3 .

[SSJ5Vegeta]

It is for PS2... just mentioning it... >.>

[adult_gohan]

LOL... i don't think so maybe on the next gen.

[SSJ6]

Here are my thoughts on gameplay:

- To be able to "equip" abilities for each transformation level. After all, lots of them are pre-built and generic style, like dragon rushes, or Favorite Techniques/Blast1 abilities. And be able to equip in L2 + left and right. And like in Budokai 3, if I would equip kamehameha 3 times, it would only do that but with far more damage power.

- Another thing I was thinking: respect the Super Saiyan limitants. This would give "true series feeling". As if for SS3 Goku, would lose ki like if using Magic Beast Yakon item because of it's transformation state. So the player would have to choose if having considerable more speed and damage, sacrificing the fact that he would have to be charging all the way, as for SSJ4 even worse. That way, picking a SSJ4 character is not a brutal abuse, because it has it's draw-backs. This could not apply in the Great Kaio's planet, respecting the series feeling.

- As for broly, he should have android-like eternal energy device in Legendary form... because that's who he is.

There should also be a "KAIO-KEN Goku". Which has no transformations, only Kaio-ken levels. This should be infinite (well, maybe 20 tops). Giving with each extra level:
- More speed
- More strength
- More blast2 damage
- Least need for blast 1 gauges
- More sensitive to damage

- Regarding fusions: To be like in the DBZ Budokai series: Only fusioned while MAX POWER level reached and during that time. Afterwards... back to split up. That way having Vegitto COULD be better than SSJ4 Gogeta depending on scenarios.

- Kid boo should be able to charge even if getting beated up by rush attacks... like in the series.

- Have a outter space level, with meteor rocks to destroy and stuff.

- Blast 2 charging techniques such as kamehameha or gallic gun should consume Ki insted of the "power gauge". THAT WAY if you are on MAX POWER MODE, you could charge ALL THE BLUE BAR PLUS ALL THE YELLOW BAR and cause MANIAC DAMAGE (proportionally to the time needed to gather the energy) Or maybe just the blue bar but with added damage because of the MAX POWER state. Clashing ki beams like 2 kamehamehas for ex. would consume ki regularly (like when pressing L2 during) If you are in max power, you could throw a very week kamehame but with much power to back it up and would make the game more estrategical.

- The idea of dodging punches and kicks form DBZ budokai series was a nice touch... could put it back.

- Have a build-up mode like in DBGT final bout from PS1, where you would level attacks or blast 2 depending on the usage along the building up course. This way you could have a common ground where a Yayirobe is 20 levels above a SSJ4 Gogeta AND WOULD CAUSE PROPORTIONAL DAMAGE. Because having a 100 level Yayirobe in previous games was no match for a 50 level SSJ4 Gogeta... let the players choice WHO SHOULD BE THE STRONGEST (I have my heart in Piccolo).

- Pay attention for bugs: In Tenkaichi 2 LOTS of items didn't work! Also Majin Boo + Gotenks Absorved would deliver the Ultimate blast from Gohan and Viceversa. Piccolo's death granade zone was EXCELLENT in tenkaichi 1... but something terribly wrong happend in tenkaichi 2. You could have the ki blasts swirling in circles faster and faster and then having each of them getting closer orderly so that the only way to evade is evading each blast or with a ki-shield.

- Blast 1 android barriers and blash shield should be able to grow and be more protective by the usage of ki, by simply pressing L2 during. This way, a really big android barrier could stop Ultimate Blast attacks.

- If you have the engine you could try making multiple players. You have the lock on system, so all you have to do is having some one else locking up on someone and the mayhem should begin. I am aware the difficulty of programing the character to block the attacks. You could maybe come up with a system of 2 types of lock on: atack, and look out for... or something... I'm just saying.

- Regarding the spirit bomb, it should be like in Tenkaichi 2 based on Blast 1. The more Blast 1 you use, the bigger the spirit bomb gets, and the more damaging it becomes. In my fantasy world You should leave pressed the B1 and only then the bomb will grow bigger and bigger. If you have certain ammount of ki you should be inmune to ki normal blasts (like Omega Shenron against kid DBGT goku)

- Use teleporting maps like in hyper dimension. For example, fighting on the ground, getting them up with dragon rush and end up in Kami's palace!, our in the ground and end up in some cavern... the limit is the sky.

- An endless map... I was thinking the time chamber, we don't care if it crashes or glitches, let us see the limits of the console's memory :P

[Mtwarrior]

make frieza's voices different in each form. also its weird seeing the characters talk while breathing in..:p
Also in t1 you got to aim where to shoot your ki which was cool but you can do that no more..bring it back pl0x

[Doomsiren]

i also think cutscenes should be more impressive. right now they look lame and cheesy. in the series when goku transformed into a ssj for the first time i felt a chill running down my spine. it gave me a feeling of YEAH!!! POWER!!! but the cutscenes in the tenkaichi series are just lame and lack story. in tenkaichi 1 you actually battled freeza 100% on normal namek. this was improved in bt 2 but it still not satisfieing. the cutscenes should be like in the budokai series.

[King Chiaotzu]

OK, I can solve the Vegeta problem.

Vegeta (Base, SS1, USS, SS2, SS4m Great Ape, Gold Great Ape)



YOU IDIOTS! Because of guys like you, there is always something stupid in DBZ -games!

Vegeta characters should be like this:

Kid Vegeta (Base, Great Ape.)
-???

Vegeta scouter (Base, Great Ape)
-3 costumes: those in bt2 and "badman"-pink T-shirt.

Vegeta (Android -saga) (Base, SS1, USS.)
-Only 1 costume with different colours.

Vegeta (Buu -saga) (Base, SS1, SS2.)
-2 costumes: training suit which he uses with kid Trunks
and that which was in bt2.

Majin Vegeta (Base, SS2.)
-Only 1 costume with different colours.

GT Vegeta (Base, SS1, SS2, Gold Great Ape, SS4.)
-With moustache and without moustache.


SIX DIFFERENT VEGETAS!!!!!:D

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Talking about idiots. You just proved to be one yourself. I do personally not appreciate Spike's bad ways of selling their games. 2 Vegeta's are necessary, that's it.

[Big_Man85]

I had post up a reply days ago conerning about the game Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3. What I really want to talk about for our next idea installment for the game is inputting the Offical Dragon Ball Z Soundtracks in the game. Believe it or not everyone! But the game will indeed improve if Spike and Atari can install the game with the Offical Dragon Ball Z Soundtracks! Here is all the samples everyone...

http://www.southernmusicdigital.com/Dragonball

Listen to it and tell yourselves, will the game improve with the Original Soundtracks of Dragon Ball Z Itself! They have all the Volumes from Raditz to Buu saga. Spike and Atari Ideas, Ideas, Ideas!!!

I really don't say much either as far as giving discussing ideas to input in the next installment for DBZBT3! Ideas Ideas Ideas!!!

P.S My Favorite Track! Vol. 1 Pikkon's Theme Fighting Against Goku!

Spike and Atari hear out your fans! Ideas Ideas!!!!!!

[Minotast]

OK, I can solve the Vegeta problem.

Vegeta (Base, SS1, USS, SS2, SS4m Great Ape, Gold Great Ape)

Equip "Babidi's Mind Control" on Vegeta to get Majin Vegeta.
While this item is equipped to Vegeta, his selection on the menu is Majin Vegeta, and he starts the battle as Majin Vegeta. Taking this item off will result in just the normal Vegeta.

Equip "Blutz Wave Amplifier" on Vegeta to enable him to transform to SS4.
Equipping this can let Vegeta go to SS4 because he could never do it by himself on the show.

Equip "Saiyan Tail" to Vegeta to give his model a tail. This enables him to look at the moon or his blutz ball and transform. Removing this item results in him losing his tail. This applies for all Saiyans who have the ability to transform at the full moon.

This will solve all the costume problems etc.

Costumes
Saiyan Saga with scouter
Namek Saga
Cell Saga
Buu Saga
GT outfit

Problem solved!!!:up:

All the best ideas are under that guy's signature.

[Mtwarrior]

guys reply to this post: Maybe for mercinary towe he should have 2 forms. one is his pink suit with no s word and then when he transforms he has no shirt and a sword. in the show this happens, he uses a capsule to get his sword so when you click to transform you should see him pull out the capsule and power up so his clothes rip off him.

what do you guys think?

[kbrooksgohan]

Majin Buu (Gotenks Absorbed)

1.Buu's Teleport Beatdown-real time combo rush

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/252._Ready_to_Fuse/252-75.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/252._Ready_to_Fuse/252-75.jpg)


2. Galactic donuts -maybe the should change Galactic donuts into a move and a favorite technique.The move should be like t2. The favorite one is an change used in conjuction with the super kamehameha to imitate the show. You can shoot three if you have 3 fav. numbers and if you have 2 then you shoot two and if you have 1 favorite number than you shoot one the limit is three though.
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/251._The_Old_Kais_Weapon/251-65.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/251._The_Old_Kais_Weapon/251-65.jpg)


3.Special beam cannon-but more like how he did it in the show.
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/251._The_Old_Kais_Weapon/251-12.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/251._The_Old_Kais_Weapon/251-12.jpg)



4. Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/251._The_Old_Kais_Weapon/251-25.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/251._The_Old_Kais_Weapon/251-25.jpg)


5.UB2-Super kamehameha- blue one.
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/251._The_Old_Kais_Weapon/251-69.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/251._The_Old_Kais_Weapon/251-69.jpg)

6-UB 2: Victory Cannon
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/252._Ready_to_Fuse/252-50.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/252._Ready_to_Fuse/252-50.jpg)

Super Buu (Gotenks absorbed)
Ability
1 - Buu's Teleport Beatdown
2 - Galactic Donuts
3 - Special Beam Cannon
4 - Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack
5 - UB-Super Kamehameha
6 - UB2-Victory Cannon
7 - B1-Candy Beam,some other moves

Note- I think when you use techniques like Galatic donuts chained with super kamehameha the opponent should have a chance to escape from the donuts by pressing button commands. If he looses then you blast him with the combined force of both attacks. If wins he escapes but you still can fire the kamehameha.

Majin Buu (Gohan Absorbed)
1.Victory Cannon-
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/255._Rip_in_the_Universe/255-21.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/255._Rip_in_the_Universe/255-21.jpg)

2.Mystic Rush
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/254._Meet_Vegito/254-11.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/254._Meet_Vegito/254-11.jpg)

3.Super Galactic Donuts -as an attack he used them when he fought vegeta and goku but now you can shoot more and red this time.

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/253._Union_of_Rivals/253-75.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/253._Union_of_Rivals/253-75.jpg)


4.Super Kamehameha attack- bigger and pink.

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/254._Meet_Vegito/254-13.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/254._Meet_Vegito/254-13.jpg)

5. UB-Universal Destruction

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/254._Meet_Vegito/254-49.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/254._Meet_Vegito/254-49.jpg)


6.UB2-Super Ghost Kamikaze Kamehameha Masenko attack -this time you can make more of them maybe like 10 but they all can shoot kamehameha's and masenko beams so maybe 5 of them shoot kamehameha's and other masenko. The blast should follow the opponent.



http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/256._Vegito_Downsized/256-51.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/256._Vegito_Downsized/256-51.jpg)



http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/256._Vegito_Downsized/256-57.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/256._Vegito_Downsized/256-57.jpg)

Super Buu (Gohan absorbed)
Ability
1- Victory Cannon
2 - Mystic Rush
3 -Super Galactic Donuts
4 - Super Kamehameha
5 - UB: Universal Destruction
6 - UB2: Super Ghost Kamikaze Kamehameha Masenko Attack
7 - B1- Regenaration,Candy Beam,some other moves.

Vegito
Ability
1 - Final Kamehameha
2 - Final Flash
3 - Fusion Spirit Strike
4 - UB: Atomic Blast
5 - UB 2: FP Instant Transmission Kamehameha
6 - TQ:Focused Sense


Not to many images of him doing these attacks....


Gogeta
Ability
1- Fusion Warp Punch
2- Super Kamehameha Galic Blast
3- Super Final Flash
4- Fusion Warp Jack Knive Rush
5-UB Instant Transmission Spirit Bomb
6-UB2:Spirit Explosion- but like B3 instead as a interactive Cutscene.
7- B1 Instant Transmission,some other moves.

Bardock
Ability
1. Burning Fist Uppercut
2. Riot Javelin
3. Relentless Sayian Anger Rush
4. UB:Spirit of the Saiyans Exploding Fist
5. UB2- Exploding Riot Javelin
6. B1-Future Sight- he can see the opponents move before they attack.

3. Would be more like t2 but way better and interactive or maybe in real time...
4. Is a cutscene like B3 were it finishes with bardock attacking you on the ground with the attack he uses with his one hand. But better than b3 of course.

Goku ssj3
Ability
1.super kamehameha ~chargeable~
2.beatdown energy blast
3.Super explosive wave
4.UB dragonfist
5.UB2 Angry rush attack
6.B1 instant transmission,Power Up to the Limit- once it finishes goku's is exhausted.

[SSJ5Vegeta]

Thanks for using some of my move lists :up:

[kbrooksgohan]

No Thank you! You always have excellent ideas! I'd like for them to use your system!

[The_Demon]

Thanks for using some of my move lists :up:

haha you should'nt be thanking him, I would use your move set too. They're so good and juss cool:D:up:

[kbrooksgohan]

Brolly Restricted SS
Ability
1.Blaster Barage- more than 20 balls though. Used it against Goku when they first fought.
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8_v2/DragonballZ-Movie08_622.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8_v2/DragonballZ-Movie08_622.jpg)


2.Legendary Energy Shield
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8_v2/DragonballZ-Movie08_1189.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8_v2/DragonballZ-Movie08_1189.jpg)

3. Legendary Beatdown Rush-attack viciously finishes with head crush.
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8_v2/DragonballZ-Movie08_500.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8_v2/DragonballZ-Movie08_500.jpg)


4. UB-Legendary Anger Explosion- Not just an Super Explosive wave.....it would be almost like a transformation and an attack. It could make his stats rise till he reaches his breaking point and then he can activate his attack at the bottom becomes the Legendary Super Saiyan.
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8_v2/DragonballZ-Movie08_808.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8_v2/DragonballZ-Movie08_808.jpg)



5. UB2-Exploding Energy Blaster Shell
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8/screenshotsdbzmovie8_372.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8/screenshotsdbzmovie8_372.jpg)




6.B1-The Legendary Breaking Point
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8_v2/DragonballZ-Movie08_816.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8_v2/DragonballZ-Movie08_816.jpg)

Broly's movelist!
Ability
1-Blaster Barage
2-Legendary Energy Shield
3-Legendary Beatdown Rush
4-UB-Exploding Blaster Shell
5-UB2-Legendary AngerExplosion
6-B1- Legendary Breaking Point,Kakarot!,Saiyan Power

Gogeta
Ability
1.Fusion Warp Impact- attack starts with energy surging through Gogeta he slide to the opponent. Series of invisible punches are done in real time. He goes through the opponent.

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1898.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1898.jpg)

Here's how the opponent's body looks afterward
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1909.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1909.jpg)


2. Super Kamehameha Galic Blast
3. Super Final Flash
4. Fusion Warp Jack Knive Rush-attack with all kicks! Real time Combo
5. UB-Instant Transmission Spirit Bomb
6. UB2-Star Dust Explosion- but like B3 instead as a interactive Cutscene.Should erase the opponent.

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1929.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1929.jpg)


http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1918.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1918.jpg)

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1956.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1956.jpg)

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1957.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1957.jpg)

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1984.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_12/DragonballZ-Movie12_1984.jpg)

B1-Instant Transmission,SS3+SS2 Power, some other ones!
Most of his moves don't have images but I gave him images for the ones we've seen already.

[SSJ6]

I think they could add an "Turn On/Off What if/DB AF features. This is really easy, they only need to assign "preference values" to Head, upper custome, lower custome, arms, legs, boots, gloves, colorskin. This way you could have 2 pottara fusion characters fusioned by dance and so on. If it annoys you... just turn of the $%&/( feature :)

[kbrooksgohan]

Baby Vegeta Form 1
1.Galic Gun- levels up when he transforms
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/32._The_Return_of_Uub/32-53.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/32._The_Return_of_Uub/32-53.jpg)

2.Baby Shockwave Attack- shock waves opponent from a far.He did against it Gt Goku.
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/29._The_Fall_of_the_Saiyans/29-59.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/29._The_Fall_of_the_Saiyans/29-59.jpg)

3. Parasite on Vegeta Beatdown- attacks opponent visciously. Finishes with a Cross Punch.
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/29._The_Fall_of_the_Saiyans/29-21.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/29._The_Fall_of_the_Saiyans/29-21.jpg)

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/29._The_Fall_of_the_Saiyans/29-20.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/29._The_Fall_of_the_Saiyans/29-20.jpg)

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/29._The_Fall_of_the_Saiyans/29-18.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/29._The_Fall_of_the_Saiyans/29-18.jpg)

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/29._The_Fall_of_the_Saiyans/29-57.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/29._The_Fall_of_the_Saiyans/29-57.jpg)

4. Violent Energy Barrage-20 blasts. Levels up when he transforms for more blasts and other effects.
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/32._The_Return_of_Uub/32-15.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/32._The_Return_of_Uub/32-15.jpg)

5. UB- Big Bang Attack/Return Attack- that big energy ball he did against Gt Goku. He called it Big Bang attack.Majin Vegeta did it too but he called it Return Attack in Japanese.
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/29._The_Fall_of_the_Saiyans/29-22.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/29._The_Fall_of_the_Saiyans/29-22.jpg)


5. UB2- Final Baby Flash
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/32._The_Return_of_Uub/32-22.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_GT/02._Baby_Saga/32._The_Return_of_Uub/32-22.jpg)

6. B1- Parasite Stage Two/ Saiyan Power/Explosive Wave

[ultimate_saiyan]

how do ya get those pics question mark