BOTF 2007 -- Round 1

[Zonga]

And the moment you've all been waiting for...Round 1!

In the first round of the Battle of the Forums 2007, the Los Perro-Calientes created the challenge.

Challenge A
Team Creations vs Third Eye Designs

The requirements:

1) The park theme must be set on a bayou, swamp, or marsh (which means lots of water and grime and old trees).
2) The park must have a spooky, or eerie feel to it (old architecture, fog, spooky trees, ruins, zombie hands in the water).
3) The park must have a canoe boat ride inside the main body of water of the park.
4) The park must have included a "haunted" maze (you may interpret this however you like).
5) The park map must be 80x60
6) The main attraction of the park must be a glider coaster.
7) There must be one dark ride set inside an old, abandoned home.
8) Three restaurants must be included.


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Challenge B
Roller Toasters vs Improbable Belfry

The requirements:

1) The theme is Under the Sea.
2) Actual water may not be used. The underwater effect must be achieved using scenery only (this does not mean you have to enclose the entire park in some sort of blue structure. You can just build the park normally, but throw in certain details that make it look underwater, such as lot's of coral plants (instant wood, anyone?) and stuff like that. Don't complicate your lives TOO much).
3) Only ONE water ride is to be used (no more, no less).
4) 75 X 75 map size.
5) There must be at least two fully enclosed flat rides (meaning, at least a roof or shelter over the ride)
6) All coasters must have custom supports (that doesn't mean ONLY steelworx, you can mix scenery or use coaster tracks as supports, too)
7) Park must be split into 3 distinct areas. (no more, no less). (Examples: Each area could be named after a different sea creature with it's own coaster, or something like "Mermaid Pointe, Lobster Rock, and Poseidon's Lair; or each area could be a different area of the ocean such as Coral Reef, Ocean Forest, and underwater caves).
8) Each area must have it's own restaurant.

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The deadline is:
4pm PST June 22nd
Any later and you will have points deducted.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Wow! Great challenges! Can't wait to get started on this...

[baz6174]

Yeah! We got a spooky park.

[Janitor 06]

This is going to be soooo cool.
Nice challenges, Hot Dogs!

[Jerr_Oen]

Love the challenges, great job hot dogs! I actually have done both themes before, but that doesn't matter.

First to ask a question: Do Nuclear Fish' waterfall and fountain particle effects count as actual water?

[Janitor 06]

Love the challenges, great job hot dogs! I actually have done both themes before, but that doesn't matter.

First to ask a question: Do Nuclear Fish' waterfall and fountain particle effects count as actual water?
I hope they don't. It will make it much harder... for YOU guys! Muahahahahaha!

[Cyberleader]

I look forward to this.

A win for us I think.

[baz6174]

I look forward to this.

A win for us I think.

Why? It's not Doctor Who, it's a swamp.

[Janitor 06]

I look forward to this.

A win for us I think.
A win for us I'm sure. :D
Why? It's not Doctor Who, it's a swamp.
Swamps rule, y'know.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Zonga, you haven't put the deadline in the first post. ;)

Just, so everybodyn knows, the parks are due in at 4pm PST 22/06/07
Any later and you will have points deducted.

[shaun allsop]

WOW brilliant ideas, Cant wait to see how we do this.

[Cyberleader]

Why? It's not Doctor Who, it's a swamp.

What? Didn't you watch The Power of Kroll?

[Zonga]

Zonga, you haven't put the deadline in the first post. ;)

Just, so everybodyn knows, the parks are due in at 4pm PST 22/06/07
Any later and you will have points deducted.

Fixed. :noob:

[DreamTheater2005]

Love the challenges, great job hot dogs! I actually have done both themes before, but that doesn't matter.

First to ask a question: Do Nuclear Fish' waterfall and fountain particle effects count as actual water?

Yes so you can't use those.

[Arctic Mouse]

Here we go! GO ROLLER TOASTERS!

[MDEKing]

I'm loving the challenges. Good luck to everyone. Off to work! :)

[Crowheart]

Whoa, tough challenges!

This should produce some cool parks, can't wait!

[ytivarg]

Love the challenges... I'm still upset I couldn't devote the time to be in it this year. Next year, if I'm still around... I'll do it no matter what.

[hillibilly]

Guess who got back early from his trip?

Wow. Good challenges! It's a shame there not hard enough.

[-MoNtU]

RCTEnthusist.. I've already attempted to build this sort of thing.. a couple of times actually. ;]

[ytivarg]

^ ? I'm lost, Montu

[RCT Enthusiast]

WOW brilliant ideas, Cant wait to see how we do this.

The underwater challange was my idea changed up alot by the rest of the team. The spooky challenge was Milkdud's idea change up a little by us.

[Jerr_Oen]

"3) Only ONE water ride is to be used" Could you define 'water ride' please. Are they the 'coasters' in the category 'Flumes & Water tracks' or does a Pounding Surf count as one as well?

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Also for the only one water ride to be used thing, can we use more than one water ride, but not intending the others to actually be rides? Using them for scenery or ride supports for example?

[Jerr_Oen]

Anything used as scenery doesn't count as a ride, imo. It's just that using a flume ride as scenery, would include 'actual water.' Right?

[-Nuclear Fish-]

But not if you don't use the water from the flume as scenery. If you just kept it in a tunnel or something...

[Janitor 06]

Does our maze have to be peep-friendly?

[RCT3Richie]

Two great challenges there! I can't wait to see what everyone comes up with! :D

[RCT Enthusiast]

Does our maze have to be peep-friendly?

Yes.As for the waterride thing I did'nt make that rule but go ahead and use them as scenery and yes the waterrides in the coaster section count.

[shaun allsop]

Does our park have to be a working park or can it be an abandonded/ defunct park?

[MyGirlPepper]

Does a swimming pool count as actual water??

[-Nuclear Fish-]

I have another question. You say the park has to themed 'under the sea' - does this mean the whole park, or can parts, such as the entrance, be 'above' the sea?

[DreamTheater2005]

No, the whole park has to seem like it's under water.

[Jerr_Oen]

^ You're not making much sence.

If, same example, the entrance is 'above' sealevel and you 'dive' down towards the park, it only enhences the theme. Other example: How about a coaster popping 'out of the sea' here and there, like a dolphin or whale. If done properly it can truly give peeps the idea of being underwater.


edit for extra stuff: The rules:
1) The theme is Under the Sea.
2) Actual water may not be used. The underwater effect must be achieved using scenery only (this does not mean you have to enclose the entire park in some sort of blue structure. You can just build the park normally, but throw in certain details that make it look underwater, such as lot's of coral plants (instant wood, anyone?) and stuff like that. Don't complicate your lives TOO much).

These two rules are the only ones concerning Nuke's question. The second rule is just a scenery limitation. The first rules only tells us what theme to use, it doesn't dictate us how to colour that theme. So obviously we can build stuff 'above' sealevel. If it wouldn't be alowed, the rules should've said so in the first place. Now you're just making up requirement number 9. I'm not planning on conforming to rules you just make up along the line.

Basicly I could even build a park in an 'underwater museum' with rides and restaurants in 'exposition bassins' as long as the theme is Under the Sea, without breaking any rules.

[Janitor 06]

^That's a great idea, Jerr_Oen.
Why do you guys all want to use particle effects for water? I don't see much waterfalls under water...
There are better underwater particle in nuke's particle effects... *blub*

[Jerr_Oen]

But there are underwater waterfalls, in the north of the Atlantic Ocean cooled down (so it becomes heavier) water falls down en masse, creating the pump for the Gulf Stream.

I wasn't talking about the water particles in my previous post.

[Janitor 06]

But there are underwater waterfalls, in the north of the Atlantic Ocean cooled down (so it becomes heavier) water falls down en masse, creating the pump for the Gulf Stream.
Cool...

[Milkdud]

Also for the only one water ride to be used thing, can we use more than one water ride, but not intending the others to actually be rides? Using them for scenery or ride supports for example?

The ONE water ride must be a working ride. You MAY use water rides as SCENERY and RIDE SUPPORTS (as stated in the custom support rule).

Does our park have to be a working park or can it be an abandonded/ defunct park?

Um, it must be functional. That's the point of these challenges.
Does a swimming pool count as actual water??

YES. No pools. This is a theme park not a water park.
I have another question. You say the park has to themed 'under the sea' - does this mean the whole park, or can parts, such as the entrance, be 'above' the sea?

I said don't complicate your lives. BUT, there are NO said rules stating you may not have parts above the ocean (after all there is no real ocean). Just keep in mind, the general theme is UNDER the Sea. So keep the the parts above water to a minimum.

Again, interpret the theme how you like, as long as you don't break any of the said rules.


Also, Nuke's Particle Effects are not allowed. They do count as real water in my eyes (as they are meant to represent fountains, which consist of real water). However, bubbles may be used.



Sorry I wasn't here to answer these earlier. But I'm always away for the weekends.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Also, Nuke's Particle Effects are not allowed.

You mean just the water ones? Are the bubbles alright to use?

EDIT: I see you've edited it, so I'm guessing it is just the fountains and waterfalls.

[Milkdud]

You mean just the water ones? Are the bubbles alright to use?

I edited my post.

edit: EDIT: I see you've edited it, so I'm guessing it is just the fountains and waterfalls.

Correct.


edit2: Sean asked me this question via PM, so let me make it clear:
Questions for our challenge.

Does it have to be a working park usable by guests or can it be an abanded park.

Can the buildings look as though there not used/abanded or do they have to be usable working buildings?

And does the coaster have to be a working coaster. I.E can have parts missing to make it look old abandoned ect

Cheers Shaun

The park MUST be a working park, as in peeps must be able to access the park and coasters. Not all buildings have to be functional though, as real theme parks do have buildings that are strictly for show/decoration purposes.



Guess who got back early from his trip?

Wow. Good challenges! It's a shame there not hard enough.

Well, this is the first challenge. If we made it any harder, the challenges would only get ever harder...by the last round the parks would have been impossible! The first challenge sets the pace. If it was too difficult, the other teams would have no reason to make the next challenges any easier...they'd only get harder.

AND btw, I thought the Under the Sea challenge would be uber hard...glad I was sort of wrong? [i have some killer ideas for the theme too....it's a shame I can't give them out ;]]

[hillibilly]

Well, this is the first challenge. If we made it any harder, the challenges would only get ever harder...by the last round the parks would have been impossible! The first challenge sets the pace. If it was too difficult, the other teams would have no reason to make the next challenges any easier...they'd only get harder.


There hard, but just not hard enough for my cocky self. lol j/k
I think they are pretty good milk.

[baz6174]

Question: Does the whole dark ride have to be in the house or can it be like a Disney haunted house (ride out the back)?

[RCT Enthusiast]

^I would say as long as you keep the outside parts to a minimum.

[DreamTheater2005]

Actually, Haunted Mansion is all indoors, unless you mean the whole building has to be a house and can't be any extra buildings.

[Milkdud]

Question: Does the whole dark ride have to be in the house or can it be like a Disney haunted house (ride out the back)?

I don't understand this question.

Do you need the definition of what a dark ride is? ;/

Don't over think it.

[. Style .]

You misunderstand the question, does it have to be inside the structure of an abonded home, or can we just make a 'facade' somehow, and then have the ride another building, behind, that people can't see?

[baz6174]

Thanks style, i am glad someone knows what i am talking about. I am so glad you are on my team.

[DreamTheater2005]

Actually, Haunted Mansion is all indoors, unless you mean the whole building has to be a house and can't be any extra buildings.

I did also ^^.

[Milkdud]

You misunderstand the question, does it have to be inside the structure of an abonded home, or can we just make a 'facade' somehow, and then have the ride another building, behind, that people can't see?

Ahhh. I understand now.


No, you can't just build a facade and hide the ride behind it. There must be an entire house, with a ride inside of it.
Think Monster House.

I got the idea from this:
http://www.hauntedstudio.com/Bayou%20LF.jpg

[baz6174]

Thanks.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

I have another question - for the 'fully enclosed' falt rides, how enclosed does it have to be? Does the whole thing have to be covered? And if so, can certain parts of the shelter have gaps in it? So, for example, could the shelter just be four walls with a 'cage' sort of steelworx structure on top, even though there are gaps in the steelworx?

[Milkdud]

I have another question - for the 'fully enclosed' falt rides, how enclosed does it have to be? Does the whole thing have to be covered? And if so, can certain parts of the shelter have gaps in it? So, for example, could the shelter just be four walls with a 'cage' sort of steelworx structure on top, even though there are gaps in the steelworx?

Sure. There just has to be some sort of structure above it.

[DreamTheater2005]

Hmmmm.. only 2 days to finish your parks.

[Milkdud]

No wonder this thread has been so empty. You all must be workin' HARDD.

[Crowheart]

Time to start laying down bets..

Go Belfrys!

[Cedar Point]

I'm leanin' towards the Toasters for this one. :D:up:

[Boston]

Everyone's a winner in my book! :D

[LightGrenades]

Everyone's a winner in my book! :D

Haha, totally cliche, Disneyesque moment there Boston!

:haha:

[-Nuclear Fish-]

I'm leanin' towards the Toasters for this one. :D:up:

You might want to try leaning the other way.... we've all had the worst luck imaginable. This past week I've had a huge college assignment due in which has literally taken up all my spare time, hillibilly has also had lots of school work and now has no computer to do anything on because it's being fixed and has also lost what he had been working on, TopGun has had exams and now his mother's been in a car accident and he's spending most of his time with her at the hospital, and Arctic Mouse's RCT3 got corrupted somehow so he's had to reinstall everything and also he wasn't around much the first week.

So yeah, things have gone kind of bad for us... but what we do have looks amazing, and even if I have to stay up all night tonight and tomorrow I WILL get our park finished, so Improbable Belfry, don't think this is going to be an easy win. :mad:

[Milkdud]

You might want to try leaning the other way.... we've all had the worst luck imaginable. This past week I've had a huge college assignment due in which has literally taken up all my spare time, hillibilly has also had lots of school work and now has no computer to do anything on because it's being fixed and has also lost what he had been working on, TopGun has had exams and now his mother's been in a car accident and he's spending most of his time with her at the hospital, and Arctic Mouse's RCT3 got corrupted somehow so he's had to reinstall everything and also he wasn't around much the first week.

So yeah, things have gone kind of bad for us... but what we do have looks amazing, and even if I have to stay up all night tonight and tomorrow I WILL get our park finished, so Improbable Belfry, don't think this is going to be an easy win. :mad:

*gasp*

What a series of unfortunate events!

[RCT Enthusiast]

Do you mind if I post this in this thread:

I'm a little ticked off at pyrofreak:mad::mad:AKA Mr. dosent turn in his partners SURVIVOR entry while his partner is on a crusie that he knows about.

Had to annouce that cause now I will have more time on BOTF.Now any Q's before the deadline?

[DreamTheater2005]

^ Post 666 *gasp*

[MyGirlPepper]

You might want to try leaning the other way.... we've all had the worst luck imaginable. This past week I've had a huge college assignment due in which has literally taken up all my spare time, hillibilly has also had lots of school work and now has no computer to do anything on because it's being fixed and has also lost what he had been working on, TopGun has had exams and now his mother's been in a car accident and he's spending most of his time with her at the hospital, and Arctic Mouse's RCT3 got corrupted somehow so he's had to reinstall everything and also he wasn't around much the first week.

So yeah, things have gone kind of bad for us... but what we do have looks amazing, and even if I have to stay up all night tonight and tomorrow I WILL get our park finished, so Improbable Belfry, don't think this is going to be an easy win. :mad:

LOL , We have had our share of setbacks as well, A couple players lost files and their computers broke down, but we are scrambling to get a Presentable Park in order.

[Crowheart]

Oh yeah, well, we had to go uphill, in a blizzard, carrying the computer on our back, with nothing to eat for two weeks wearing just a speedo, and being attacked by wild dogs...

So there..:p

[Milkdud]

Oh yeah, well, we had to go uphill, in a blizzard, carrying the computer on our back, with nothing to eat for two weeks wearing just a speedo, and being attacked by wild dogs...

So there..:p

What a pleasant-sounding scenario.

[Jerr_Oen]

Oh yeah, well, we had to go uphill, in a blizzard, carrying the computer on our back, with nothing to eat for two weeks wearing just a speedo, and being attacked by wild dogs...

So there..:p

That's nothing! Our computer flooded and smells like fish now, leaving us no other choice than to make a model out of mud, dry it by blowing untill our eyes popped out, only to hurry to the shopping mall where we have to scan the whole thing in the copy machine, wearing nothing but a single sock, and being attacked by wild housewifes on a shopping frenzy...

[RCT Enthusiast]

Do you mind if I post this in this thread:

I'm a little ticked off at pyrofreak:mad::mad:AKA Mr. dosent turn in his partners SURVIVOR entry while his partner is on a crusie that he knows about.

Had to annouce that cause now I will have more time on BOTF.Now any Q's before the deadline?


Nothing is worse the what happend to me up there^;)

[Nocturna]

QQ more, this thread isn't about Survivor.

[p8ntball]

Nothing is worse the what happend to me up there^;)

Well apparently, its not your park, as you did nothing, and he did the WHOLE park. So let this go, stop looking for attention. Mmm'kay.

[pepperboy72]

"It wont happen again mr. Macky, Mmm'kay"

"Mmm'kay boys"

[MDEKing]

I have to write this here because I can't log in at TPV for some reason. I'm coming from my Playstation 3 at the moment to tell my team that my computer is being fixed right now. My Wild! disc shattered while inside my computer (if anyone remembers, this happened with my actual RCT3 disc, too). PLEASE finish up the park the best you can (hopefully it will be finished, I haven't seen it for 3 days now) and upload it by 4 o'clock! I'll have my computer back by the start of the next round and will be running RCT3 with the Soaked! disc, the last disc I have. :/

[callmecosmo]

What kind of supped up drive are you running King that you can shatter disks?!

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Three hours left to go now... and I still have over half the park to do. :bulb:

I have a question, which hopefully somebody somewhere will answer in time: does the aquarium count as a flat ride?

[Janitor 06]

I have to write this here because I can't log in at TPV for some reason. I'm coming from my Playstation 3 at the moment to tell my team that my computer is being fixed right now. My Wild! disc shattered while inside my computer (if anyone remembers, this happened with my actual RCT3 disc, too). PLEASE finish up the park the best you can (hopefully it will be finished, I haven't seen it for 3 days now) and upload it by 4 o'clock! I'll have my computer back by the start of the next round and will be running RCT3 with the Soaked! disc, the last disc I have. :/
Woops... I finally read this... I'll copy it on to TPV, as I'm signing off now... Sorry... :cry:

[-Nuclear Fish-]

^ Your team will have to make sure one of you PM's the park to Zonga. Include a download link (with any billboard images if used), four regular pictures and an overview picture. The pictures can't be edited except for adding logos & borders etc, and the overview screenshot can be labelled to form a map if you want.

[poekie1337]

Three hours left to go now... and I still have over half the park to do. :bulb:

Hey, welcome to the club! :D One hour left and I have to finish A LOT, and everybody on my team is sleeping allready :(

edit: what?! ^ aarg, I have to make screenshots too! Haha, hectic :D

[shaun allsop]

LOL we have had our problems as well. 2 park files went missing so we had to start over pritty much twice. Sceanery keeps disapering everytime we pass the park on and most of our team cant describe what a marsh/bog is let alone create one HAHAHAHA All this on the first challenge. God help us all IMAO

[MDEKing]

What kind of supped up drive are you running King that you can shatter disks?!

Since it's the only game I play on the computer at the moment, I never take it out of the drive. The guy that's fixing it told me that either the disk wasn't manufactured right, or that by never taking the disk out of my drive it caused the disk to be slightly deformed. Eventually the constant spinning of the deformed disk in the drive shattered it.

[poekie1337]

@ shaun: I love it when a plan comes together.

[DreamTheater2005]

This will be intense.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

Sceanery keeps disapering everytime we pass the park on and most of our team

We never had that problem. We've only had to pass it once.

[poekie1337]

How long do we have left EXECTLY? ;)

16 min?

MDEKing: Take crappy pics and be on time or: take more time and nicer pics?

[. Style .]

1 min. to deadline. Shaun logged off MSN so his computer would be capable of more, so I hope he turned it in.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

We also allow 10 minutes over the deadline just for last minute. I've just send mine, so ours is in on time... but in about five minutes there'll be a 5 point penalty for every late entry. And then an extra five points for every hour after that. So hurry up! :D

[supercoolsuper]

Good job Nuke! I almost forgot about it.

[poekie1337]

Uhg :bulb: Mine is in allso...

[-Nuclear Fish-]

^ Hopefully you'll have been just in time.

[poekie1337]

No I didn't... I think :(
Man, finnaly, this was working on my nerves, I had to fisinh so much, I'm still not sure if we have all the requerements...

[-Nuclear Fish-]

I know for a fact we don't have two of the requirements. So that's already 10 points we've lost... so you're not alone.

[shaun allsop]

Rct decided to crash 10 minutes before the dealine and decided rct wild need to be reinstalled. Im uploading the park and pics as we speak, COME ON FILE FRONT ARGH

[Arctic Mouse]

Oh gosh Nuke. Stupid me forgot to save part of my resturaunt! I'll be done with it and post on TPV in like 30 minutes.

[-Nuclear Fish-]

^ As I've said, there's no need, the deadlines already passed. I've sent our park in.

Anyway, I'm off to bed now, so I guess I'll have to wait until morning to see the parks. Good luck everyone.

[poekie1337]

duplicate post.

[poekie1337]

Yes, goodluck you too Nuke! I'm off to bed allso, bye!

[supercoolsuper]

Cant wait to see what you guys have created!

[shaun allsop]

Yeh cant wait to see what we are up agaisnt :)

[Janitor 06]

Poekie, I'm so sorry you had to do everything alone. I really had to go to bed, as I've stayed up late all week and my mom was gettin' angry...
Do you have the canoe ride and the three restauraunts? If so, I think we have all goals. :D

[poekie1337]

Yes I have! I'm curious what you think about your "restauraunt", go ahead and download it fron the general forum thread. And it's not a big deal you had to go of to bed, I had planty of fun on my own :D I suddely had to finish half the park or so, but I think it turned out "decent" :p

[Janitor 06]

Yeah... decent... :D You did a great job, finishing our park, making pics, and putting up the park file in about 2 1/2 hours! I love the second pic, the haunted mansion with the windmill.
But we're losing 16-0 :haha: :downcast: :( :sour:
I downlaoded all four parks, gonna look at them in a sec.

[Vizard]

Ohhhh so neat! This competition looks really tough! I can't wait to see who wins!

[Nocturna]

Welcome to the forums, Vizard!

[RCT~Hero]

So...can we see the pics?

[Jerr_Oen]

Yes you can, go to the General Discussion Forum. You'll find them there.