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GokuSS4...?
09-09-2007, 07:47 AM
What do u think if there is super sayin 3 gohan.... in tenkaichi3.........HmmMMMmmm........????:bored::bored::bored:

Avi DBZ MASTER1
09-09-2007, 07:49 AM
SS3 Vegeta

Kayro Shin
09-09-2007, 07:51 AM
What do u think if there is super sayin 3 gohan.... in tenkaichi3.........HmmMMMmmm........????:bored::bored::bored:

No. I do want any AF crap in any DBZ game.

Oh and only pure Saiyans can go SSJ3 (not 100% sure).

Avi DBZ MASTER1
09-09-2007, 07:52 AM
Shut up Kayro

Surge
09-09-2007, 07:54 AM
Gogeta ssj3

Avi DBZ MASTER1
09-09-2007, 07:56 AM
Nice

bardack85
09-09-2007, 07:56 AM
vegeta ssj3. since in dbz vegeta has not so much hair, this transformation may help him. eh eh eh
I can understand you man, I'm very bored too :(
no news, no interesting characters revealed.....uffff

Surge
09-09-2007, 07:58 AM
SSJ 4 with gold hair and red fur lmao

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 07:59 AM
No. I do want any AF crap in any DBZ game.

Oh and only pure Saiyans can go SSJ3.
Where the hell did you ever hear that? I remember this half saiyan named Gotenks...;)

Anyway, I would get a kick out of it, but I'd prefer SSJ Pan.

bardack85
09-09-2007, 08:01 AM
da games elite you can't imagine how many bull***** I have to hear from supposed to be dbz fans. Thanks for remembering ssj3 gotenks, I was going to do that. ;)

Surge
09-09-2007, 08:01 AM
half trunks half goten + 1 saiyan full blood

bardack85
09-09-2007, 08:03 AM
eh eh eh

APPS
09-09-2007, 08:06 AM
No. I do want any AF crap in any DBZ game.

Oh and only pure Saiyans can go SSJ3.

Of course, thats why vegeta didnt and gotenks did :rolleyes:

My beleif (this is in no way fact, merely opinion)

SSJ1: Accesible by experiencing intense emotion at a bereavement, ( Goku, Future Trunks, future gohan), or maybe pure desire to further ones self( vegeta, gohan?). If one or both of youre parents can go supersaiyan, you will be born without a tail and will find it much easier to go SSJ (Kid trunks and Goten, Makes sense since the saiyans are genetically designed to be the best warrior race)

USSJ/USSJ2/FPSSJ: Accesible though training to push ones limits

SSJ2: As SSJ1

SSJ3: Not accesible under mortal conditions (Goku was in otherworld when he transformed for the first time, gotenks was 1. A fused being, 2. In the hyperbolic time chamber when he first transformed)

SSJ4: Possibly only accesible by pure saiyans, but i beleive it can be accesed by anyone who can transform into a golden oozaru (would need SSJ and a tail) and can maintain their reasoning.

jetixdbz
09-09-2007, 08:16 AM
Shut up Kayro
why shut up!
what he's saying is true!
half saiyans can only be super saiyan 2 they can't reach 3

Marby
09-09-2007, 08:17 AM
No. I do want any AF crap in any DBZ game.
Agreed. :up:

Shut up Kayro
That was unnecessary. He was only voicing his opinion. Reply's like that can start a flamewar. Please be more careful when making posts. You are getting a warning for trolling.

VBG
09-09-2007, 08:20 AM
Shut up Kayro

How about you relax and/or shut up yourself. What did he do anyway?

There should be no AF crap in this game. AF is a doujin and has hentai, and you want it to be part of the game?

GokuSS4...?
09-09-2007, 08:22 AM
So half saiyans can reach SS3

Marby
09-09-2007, 08:22 AM
How about you relax and/or shut up yourself. What did he do anyway?
Dude, drop it. He already got a warning for it, let's continue with the discussion. :)

VBG
09-09-2007, 08:23 AM
Sorry, I missed that.

Surge
09-09-2007, 08:25 AM
can we plz get bak on topic

jurehumar
09-09-2007, 08:25 AM
I would like to have ssj3 Broly! :D

Lord Nelloz
09-09-2007, 08:26 AM
I'd like SSJ3 Vegeta, but that's about as far as it goes.

Kayro Shin
09-09-2007, 08:27 AM
Where the hell did you ever hear that? I remember this half saiyan named Gotenks...;)


Gotenks is a fusion of 2 half-saiyans :rolleyes:


Avi: Try to say something usefull for once :noob:

Edit: I've edited my first post since I'm not entirely sure that is true.

Surge
09-09-2007, 08:31 AM
I would like to have ssj3 Broly! :D

that or ssj 4

alpha-omega
09-09-2007, 08:31 AM
I would like to see a base gogeta also ss4 vegeto and maybe even ss3 gogeta/vegito.

Avi DBZ MASTER1
09-09-2007, 08:33 AM
AF had Hentai?

Surge
09-09-2007, 08:34 AM
AF had Hentai?

hmn sounds interesting lol:haha:

Avi DBZ MASTER1
09-09-2007, 08:35 AM
I don't think it Did-
It had Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr and SS5.

Flaming Gohan
09-09-2007, 08:37 AM
No, he will not, and will never achieve SS3, he would never had have the power

The Flame2K
09-09-2007, 08:41 AM
Super Saiyan 3 Gohan would be weaker than Mystic Gohan...... So, no. Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta is an ok idea.

Brotha CMF
09-09-2007, 08:43 AM
Why go SSJ3 when he's already more powerful then the other to previous SSJ3's?

But I'd be cool to see what he'd look like. Vegeta too. Btw Gotenks is mortal, even in the time chamber.

alpha-omega
09-09-2007, 08:43 AM
No, he will not, and will never achieve SS3, he would never had have the power

He could have if he spent his time training like goku did instead of having a life.

Brotha CMF
09-09-2007, 08:45 AM
Super Saiyan 3 Gohan would be weaker than Mystic Gohan...... So, no. Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta is an ok idea.

I hate it when people beat me to saying something by a minute or 2 :bulb:

APPS
09-09-2007, 08:52 AM
I'd rather only what if fusions rather than what if transformations, although i wouldnt say no to SSJ4 Brolly (Not a brolly fanboy, just think it could make for an interesting what if)

EDIT: BrothaCMF: I know that Gotenks was mortal when in the HTC, but the environment that he was in, i beleive, was what aloud him to attain the SSJ3 form. ie in the HTC, you are not restrained by all the limits youd find out in the normal dragon world.

Avi DBZ MASTER1
09-09-2007, 09:00 AM
Raditz SS

Xatoku
09-09-2007, 09:10 AM
= raditz ss3

jéanie
09-09-2007, 09:10 AM
people who say that gotenks was a full saiyan by the fusion are wrong cause then you can also say he was a full human cause a half human and a othere can make a whole 1 see

Cypress
09-09-2007, 09:35 AM
No, mystic is stronger than 3. And no ssj3 Vegeta....unless there is a way for him to cheat in order to get it.

duda_pf
09-09-2007, 11:02 AM
Shut up Kayro

that was really uncalled for!

Super_Vegito
09-09-2007, 11:04 AM
No..I think vegito going SSJ3 will unstoppable...;)

VBG
09-09-2007, 11:05 AM
He was stronger than SSJ 3 anyway.

The Flame2K
09-09-2007, 11:05 AM
Shut up Kayro


There was no need for that.....

Anyways, Mystic Gohan >>> SSJ3 stage. So, Mystic takes the cake.

gkrt
09-09-2007, 11:06 AM
He wouldn't be as strong as SSJ4 Gogeta even though most people think Vegito is many times stronger than gogeta. Which I personally think is rubbish.

Crimson Quasar
09-09-2007, 11:08 AM
Super siayan three gogeta!!!



~CQ

VBG
09-09-2007, 11:08 AM
Of course Vegito is stronger than Gogeta. But not SSJ 4 Gogeta.

Elder Kai says Vegito better and stronger fusion than Gogeta.

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 11:11 AM
I would like to see some What-if transformations, actually...but more like Pan SSJ and more fusions...plus SSJ Pan would look adorable!:D

...yes, I like Pan, lol!

Super_Vegito
09-09-2007, 11:11 AM
Yes..that correct dude...like i say before when vegito going to ssj3 or 4 he will be unstoptable..

Crimson Quasar
09-09-2007, 11:12 AM
I would like to see some What-if transformations, actually...but more like Pan SSJ and more fusions...plus SSJ Pan would look adorable!:D

...yes, I like Pan, lol!

I know this Guy around her
his name is Saner
Good guy......YES....a very good guy
you guys would get along with sinc eyou like pan... a lot ;)



~CQ

Lord Nelloz
09-09-2007, 11:14 AM
SSJ3 Vegito is who I want. And SSJ3 Vegeta =D

@crimson: that wasn't meant how I think it was meant right?

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 11:15 AM
I know this Guy around her
his name is Saner
Good guy......YES....a very good guy
you guys would get along with sinc eyou like pan... a lot ;)



~CQ
Saner, huh? Hmm...neat.

I'm really a big Buu fan, but Pan is my third favorite, right under Trunks.:D

gkrt
09-09-2007, 11:15 AM
I detect people that look at Pan hentai near by :p

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 11:17 AM
I detect people that look at Pan hentai near by :p
...I'm not a pedophile...:weird:18 hentai...that's different, lol!:haha:jk.

Trombone
09-09-2007, 11:21 AM
No. I do want any AF crap in any DBZ game.

Oh and only pure Saiyans can go SSJ3 (not 100% sure).

Goku said he'd show Gohan how to go SSJ3. So there's a chance that he can. And this was during Gohan's z sword training.

VBG
09-09-2007, 11:24 AM
What? I have never heard that one before.

The Flame2K
09-09-2007, 11:26 AM
Of course Vegito is stronger than Gogeta. But not SSJ 4 Gogeta.

Elder Kai says Vegito better and stronger fusion than Gogeta.

True. Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super Vegito.

Nobody is even close to Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta's strength.

Makes me wonder if Super Saiyan 4 Goku > Super Vegito :confused:

Super_Vegito
09-09-2007, 11:27 AM
How about SSJ4 Vegito..:) I think SSJ4 VEGITO>>>>SSJ4 GOGETA..;)

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 11:29 AM
True. Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super Vegito.

Nobody is even close to Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta's strength.

Makes me wonder if Super Saiyan 4 Goku > Super Vegito :confused:
Vegito beats Gogeta, and SSJ4 Gogeta beats Super Vegito. SSJ4 Gogeta is the strongest character without a single doubt BY A LOT!!!:pIf any fan boy even begins to say that SSJ4 can be beaten by anyone, sorry. He took on the strongest foe in the series and would of killed him, had he not been too much of an idiot to finish him off from the getgo, lol!

ultimate_saiyan
09-09-2007, 11:29 AM
Where the heck did you get the idea that only full blooded saiyans cahn go ss3? Gotenks was ss3 and half saiyan, if you think he is full saiyan go back to school and learn biology, what would his human blood sudenly disapear?

Lord Nelloz
09-09-2007, 11:31 AM
SSJ4 Vegito>>>>SSJ4 Gogeta without a doubt.

VBG
09-09-2007, 11:33 AM
I don't know about the Gotenks one...

I think SSJ 3 can not be achieved with the limitations of earth...

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 11:33 AM
SSJ4 Vegito>>>>SSJ4 Gogeta without a doubt.
Hey, htat would actually make a pretty cool what-if character, lol!

Crimson Quasar
09-09-2007, 11:34 AM
SSJ3 Vegito is who I want. And SSJ3 Vegeta =D

@crimson: that wasn't meant how I think it was meant right?
if tis about saner
then yes
you would ahve to have been hear last year to knwo how Pan crazy that boy...or man is
Saner, huh? Hmm...neat.

I'm really a big Buu fan, but Pan is my third favorite, right under Trunks.:D
Very friendly dude
I detect people that look at Pan hentai near by :p

So you have been watching them?



~CQ

Super_Vegito
09-09-2007, 11:34 AM
LOL..I have seeing the DBAF manga that gohan going ssj4...I wonder how he can do it..;)

gkrt
09-09-2007, 11:35 AM
I do agree that Vegito is SLIGHTLY stronger than Gogeta. But I do disagree with some people who say Vegito is 10 times stronger than Gogeta. I jsut don't its possible.

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 11:35 AM
I don't know about the Gotenks one...

I think SSJ 3 can not be achieved with the limitations of earth...
Yeah, but still, how does that explain why SSJ4 can be reached on Earth?:p

Crimson Quasar
09-09-2007, 11:35 AM
nonetheless
gotenks is still a specail indivdual



~CQ

Super_Vegito
09-09-2007, 11:37 AM
Hope i can get SSJ3 or 4 Vegito in a what if character..;)

VBG
09-09-2007, 11:38 AM
SSJ 4 requires a tail and the ability to control your great ape form. You PROBABLY have to be a full blooded saiyan but there's no proof about that.

gkrt
09-09-2007, 11:38 AM
Yeah, but still, how does that explain why SSJ4 can be reached on Earth?:p

This is a simple one. Because the person who wrote GT is an *******.

Crimson Quasar
09-09-2007, 11:39 AM
id like to buy a vowel
is there an "a"



~CQ

Lord Nelloz
09-09-2007, 11:39 AM
if tis about saner
then yes
you would ahve to have been hear last year to knwo how Pan crazy that boy...or man is

Very friendly dude


So you have been watching them?



~CQ


I was here last year, but I don't remember saner being really crazy about pan... Can you tell me the important stuff I might have missed that have any connection to it?

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 11:39 AM
LOL..I have seeing the DBAF manga that gohan going ssj4...I wonder how he can do it..;)
I saw one AF manga (pretty cool, too) where the East Kai (the female one, i think) survived and attacked SSJ4 Gohan and SSJ4 Vegeta...:rolleyes:smart move, huh?

Crimson Quasar
09-09-2007, 11:40 AM
I was here last year, but I don't remember saner being really crazy about pan... Can you tell me the important stuff I might have missed that have any connection to it?

Due to the fact that walls have ears
I can't say very much
but we liked to tease him
cuz he started soo many pan threads
if you check his profile you might be able to find some :haha:



~CQ

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 11:40 AM
This is a simple one. Because the person who wrote GT is an *******.
...that would explain why the first half stunk...

ssjmajintrunks
09-09-2007, 11:41 AM
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc21/Kulwant_360/939644_87970_front.jpg i think she is a pedophile

gkrt
09-09-2007, 11:41 AM
id like to buy a vowel
is there an "a"



~CQ

YOU ARE CORRECT!!!

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 11:42 AM
i think she is a pedophile
........?:bored:

Super_Vegito
09-09-2007, 11:43 AM
Dont quote pic marby dont like it...;)

Crimson Quasar
09-09-2007, 11:43 AM
I dont get it either



~CQ

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 11:45 AM
Is this going back to this?

...I'm not a pedophile...:weird:18 hentai...that's different, lol!:haha:jk.

gkrt
09-09-2007, 11:46 AM
Wow that made alot of sense. But so do I.

Lord Nelloz
09-09-2007, 11:47 AM
There is only one ''she'' in the picture so that might be who he is talking about.

BrolytheGod
09-09-2007, 11:47 AM
I think SSJ3 Gohan would be cool to see but hes much better off as Mystic

The Flame2K
09-09-2007, 11:48 AM
I think SSJ3 Gohan would be cool to see but hes much better off as Mystic


Yeah, definitely agreed. Mystic is much better than SSJ3.

gkrt
09-09-2007, 11:49 AM
18 a pedophile? Never.

The Flame2K
09-09-2007, 11:49 AM
18 a pedophile? Never.


lol.........

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 11:57 AM
18 a pedophile? Never.
Well...considering she does marry a guy who is the size of a child...:rolleyes:

BrolytheGod
09-09-2007, 12:00 PM
Gogeta ssj3

Broly LSSJ3 would be the bomb

gkrt
09-09-2007, 12:09 PM
Well...considering she does marry a guy who is the size of a child...:rolleyes:

You do know that was sarcasm right?

Crimson Quasar
09-09-2007, 12:11 PM
yes...



~CQ

Lord Nelloz
09-09-2007, 12:13 PM
You do know that was sarcasm right?

in what way?

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 12:20 PM
You do know that was sarcasm right?
I know...so was that...;)

Marby
09-09-2007, 01:07 PM
Guys stop talking about pedophiles, hentai and stuff like that. It's not appropriate for Atari. Please get back on topic. :up:

Lord Nelloz
09-09-2007, 01:14 PM
Guys stop talking about pedophiles, hentai and stuff like that. It's not appropriate for Atari. Please get back on topic. :up:

You da boss, Marby :up::up:

Da Games Elite
09-09-2007, 01:16 PM
Right...sorry 'bout that...

Gubgub
09-09-2007, 01:21 PM
SS3 Gohan would be cool, but how we he get to it? I think that mabey if Gohan became Majin Gohan (going Majin power's him up to SS3) as a what if in the Buu saga, have the Majin spell get broke (Buu freaks out and kills Babadi on the spot or something) and Gohan retains the ability to go SS3.

adamant715
09-09-2007, 01:38 PM
i would like to see ssj2 goten ssj3 or ssj2 trunks that would be awesome

SHINZO
09-09-2007, 01:54 PM
it would be cool if Gohan can transform to Super Saiyan 3 Gohan,but i'd pefer SSJ4 Goku Fuses with SSJ4 Vegeta, by using "POTARA" earings! imagine how would they look if Vegeto was a Super Saiyan 4

NoMaD.
09-09-2007, 01:58 PM
Creating a SSJ3 Vegeta would have nothing to do with AF. Why do people keep bringing AF up at all.

These are What If characters. What if Vegeta had gone SSJ3. Or What if Raditz/Nappa/Pan had gone SSJ. I see no reason why characters like this can't be added to the game.

They weren't in the Manga/Anime...SO WHAT?

Letuuz
09-09-2007, 01:58 PM
Where the hell did you ever hear that? I remember this half saiyan named Gotenks...;)

Anyway, I would get a kick out of it, but I'd prefer SSJ Pan.

I dont know, if you think about it this way... Goten = 1/2 Saiyan... Trunks = 1/2 Saiyan... and we all know 2 halves make a whole... XD

As for the what if's... lets just add in all the characters that were actually IN the anime/manga... then work on the What If Super Saiyan transformations and fusions...

jeffhardyfan
09-09-2007, 02:04 PM
Gohan doesn't need ssj3. He has his 'mystic' form. Trunks and vegeta should have ssj3.:up:http://www.e-monsite.com/sayaninfini/9i0l85d-dbaf082.jpghttp://www.princeton.edu/~jdonald/saiyans/ssj3vegeta.jpg

supervegito90
09-09-2007, 02:09 PM
half trunks half goten + 1 saiyan full blood

gotenks=sayan and earthling
goten=sayan and earthling
trunks=sayan and earthling

where does that human blood could dissappear in fusion
gotenks is still half sayan even he's fusion warrior
he's sayan blood amount is just doupled, and same for human blood

Lanze
09-09-2007, 02:12 PM
Might as well have SSJ3 Vegeta since there's already and SSJ4 Vegeta. Makes absolutely no sense if he can go into the strongest SSJ form but not one weaker than it.

supervegito90
09-09-2007, 02:15 PM
SS3 Gohan would be cool, but how we he get to it? I think that mabey if Gohan became Majin Gohan (going Majin power's him up to SS3) as a what if in the Buu saga, have the Majin spell get broke (Buu freaks out and kills Babadi on the spot or something) and Gohan retains the ability to go SS3.

gohan have's no evil in his heart, so no majin gohan avaible

jeffhardyfan
09-09-2007, 02:43 PM
Might as well have SSJ3 Vegeta since there's already and SSJ4 Vegeta. Makes absolutely no sense if he can go into the strongest SSJ form but not one weaker than it.
He couldn't acheive ssj2 without babidi, he couldn't acheive ssj3 because he's too weak, and he couldn't acheive ssj4 without Bulmas help. What a disgrace! He only got to ssj1 by himself and he almost dies doing that!:haha:

Lord Nelloz
09-09-2007, 03:37 PM
He couldn't acheive ssj2 without babidi, he couldn't acheive ssj3 because he's too weak, and he couldn't acheive ssj4 without Bulmas help. What a disgrace! He only got to ssj1 by himself and he almost dies doing that!:haha:

No, he's not a disgrace, he just doesn't have any potential.

ss6veku
09-09-2007, 04:00 PM
i would like to settle the gotenks argument

gotenks is a half saiyan

he has:
quarter trunks human side

quarter trunks saiyan side

quarter goten human side

quarter goten human side

ultimateGoHaN99
09-09-2007, 04:04 PM
no its not all vegetas fault its the anime peoples fault as some people know and I heard that the anime people are the ones who kept going with the show after the frieza saga(not akira toriyama) since that was supposed to be the end of dragonball z.

So really its their fault b/c they could have been creative and given him a cool power up like they did gohan in the buu saga to make him as strong or not stronger than a ss3.

But the reason he really couldn't go ss3 is b/c they couldnt find the right look for him. He would look too awkward.

HUH I thought that goten and trunks were half saiyan already b/c goku full----chi chi human

and vegeta full----bulma human

Lord Nelloz
09-09-2007, 04:07 PM
no its not all vegetas fault its the anime peoples fault as some people know and I heard that the anime people are the ones who kept going with the show after the frieza saga(not akira toriyama) since that was supposed to be the end of dragonball z.

So really its their fault b/c they could have been creative and given him a cool power up like they did gohan in the buu saga to make him as strong or not stronger than a ss3.

But the reason he really couldn't go ss3 is b/c they couldnt find the right look for him. He would look too awkward.

DBZ till the end of frieza saga was so popular, Akira made more. More show makes more moneyzz

and yeah, they were. But gotenks has as follows:

1 half of trunks' saiyan blood
1 half of his human
1 half of Goten's saiyan blood
1 half of his human

now that would make him both a full human and a full saiyan in one, but you have to divide all of that with 2, so you get

1 half saiyan
1 half human.

do you see what I mean?

ultimateGoHaN99
09-09-2007, 04:09 PM
Akira was so creative thats why.

The anime people weren't thats why in gt everyone was weak except for like goku and a couple others maybe(maybe a couple).

Cypress
09-09-2007, 04:13 PM
No, he's not a disgrace, he just doesn't have any potential.

Hahahahaha :haha:

Lord Nelloz
09-09-2007, 04:20 PM
Hahahahaha :haha:

Dude he really doesn't... He may have a bit of potential, but he doesn't have nearly as much as trunks, goten, goku, gohan, piccolo, and many other fighters. That's why he, even at training in impossible conditions (450 earth gravity) couldn't reach SSJ2 without babidi, while goku could, and he didn't train nearly as hard as him.

ss6veku
09-09-2007, 04:31 PM
gohan have's no evil in his heart, so no majin gohan avaible

gohan could have evil in his heart i could be wrong but didnt gohan beat cell and after he beat cell and everyone still called goku the hero that could cause him to be jelous which would mean he has some evil in his heart

Dude he really doesn't... He may have a bit of potential, but he doesn't have nearly as much as trunks, goten, goku, gohan, piccolo, and many other fighters. That's why he, even at training in impossible conditions (450 earth gravity) couldn't reach SSJ2 without babidi, while goku could, and he didn't train nearly as hard as him.

i thought it was some corny reason like goku was a caring person so he could go supersaiyan and higher easier than other saiyans considering there hadnt been a supersaiyan before him (exclude movies) for a thousand years because saiyans hate everyone apart from themselves it makes a bit of sense

Do not double post, next time use the edit button, thanks! ~ Marby

Lord Nelloz
09-09-2007, 04:36 PM
No double posting yarrr matey

and no, saiyans don't hate everyone except themselves. And beside, being super saiyan produces malice and evil in a person's soul, so I can't see why goku would find it easier to go super saiyan because of his good heart...

ssj4majinvegeta
09-09-2007, 05:37 PM
ssj3 vegeta kicks a** that would be a hot add to the game but ssj3 majin vegeta would be better because majin vegeta was stronger and faster than normal ssj2 vegeta

Lanze
09-09-2007, 05:44 PM
I always thought you had to have a heart of pure good or evil to become a SSJ.

Or I guess pure neutral works.

Goku = Pure Good. He can ride the Nimbus Cloud, and you have to have a pure heart to ride one.

Vegeta = Pure Neutral. He has an extreme jealousy for Goku and he's extremely competitive but he cares very deeply for his family.

Broli = Pure Evil. Wants to beat the living daylights out of Goku, plus he has no regrets when demolishing entire civilizations and destroying a galaxy, hell he killed his father out of pure malice and didn't even have the slightest remorse whatsoever.

CalvinWars
09-09-2007, 06:04 PM
Trunks should have ssj3
You are win.

Lanze
09-09-2007, 06:08 PM
I always thought a pure fusion added all the positive characteristics and left out the negative ones.

Since humans are inferior to Saiyans (the only human that can even stand up to a Saiyan is 18) they get rid of the recessive gene, and leave the dominant Saiyan gene. Thus, Gotenks would result in a pure blooded Saiyan, and Pure Blooded Saiyans are the only ones who can go SSJ3.

Anyone see what I'm getting at?

Vegetassj0
09-09-2007, 06:33 PM
ssj3 yamcha ftw

furyfighter11
09-09-2007, 06:34 PM
How does two half saiyans= a full saiyan

What happens to the human part? They would have to be two different people. It would be like this.

Two half Saiyans fuse. One becomes full human the other becomes full saiyan. What sense does that make. And half Saiyans can go SSJ3. What you mean to say is only full blooded saiyans can turn SSJ4.

Aniro
09-09-2007, 06:38 PM
y do peopl hate AF so much? im not a fan of it and dont want it in the game but i dont HATE it... and ssj3 gohan could be a what if if gohan started training instead of studying after the cell games he could've become one. otherwise, no.

furyfighter11
09-09-2007, 06:41 PM
I don't hate AF I just think some of there people aren't possible. And I do like some AF characters and fusion characters.

Cpu_PT
09-09-2007, 06:48 PM
I don't get the fixantion that some people have with this AF stuff...
Goku was the only one who reached SSJ3 PERIOD.

Why would you want to see some crappy AF transformations? It's just not right. Asking for this characters to be SSJ3 is almost as asking for a SSJ5, wich IMAO is pretty lame.

Crimson Quasar
09-09-2007, 06:50 PM
How does two half saiyans= a full saiyan

What happens to the human part? They would have to be two different people. It would be like this.

Two half Saiyans fuse. One becomes full human the other becomes full saiyan. What sense does that make. And half Saiyans can go SSJ3. What you mean to say is only full blooded saiyans can turn SSJ4.
Very nas :up:
I don't get the fixantion that some people have with this AF stuff...
Goku was the only one who reached SSJ3 PERIOD.

Why would you want to see some crappy AF transformations? It's just not right. Asking for this characters to be SSJ3 is almost as asking for a SSJ5, wich IMAO is pretty lame.

I think so too



~CQ

Lanze
09-09-2007, 06:50 PM
How does two half saiyans= a full saiyan

What happens to the human part? They would have to be two different people. It would be like this.

Two half Saiyans fuse. One becomes full human the other becomes full saiyan. What sense does that make. And half Saiyans can go SSJ3. What you mean to say is only full blooded saiyans can turn SSJ4.

It gets knocked out of the equation to make the fusion more complete

Almighty Gohan
09-09-2007, 06:51 PM
How can you be a fan of something that doesn't exist? My god if anyone but Goku and Gotenks have SSJ3 as a transformation the Mobs will be flowing in.

Tyler_Mertens
09-09-2007, 06:56 PM
people who say that gotenks was a full saiyan by the fusion are wrong cause then you can also say he was a full human cause a half human and a othere can make a whole 1 see

No you can't, because the saiyan gene is clearly a very dominant one (even a 1/16th saiyan can go SSJ, for example)

Cpu_PT
09-09-2007, 07:01 PM
How can you be a fan of something that doesn't exist? My god if anyone but Goku and Gotenks have SSJ3 as a transformation the Mobs will be flowing in.

An excelent point my friend. If something does not really exist how can you be a fan of it????

A bunch of fake scans doens't make a series, and most of those fake scans are so bad that I get sick by seeing them.

JackSlater
09-09-2007, 07:07 PM
why would anyone want gohan ssj3.. mystic is 10x better then ssj3.. you don't have the down fall of loseing power over time while fighting.

Crimson Quasar
09-09-2007, 07:10 PM
How can you be a fan of something that doesn't exist? My god if anyone but Goku and Gotenks have SSJ3 as a transformation the Mobs will be flowing in.
The Mobs are coming!!
The Mobs are coming!!
An excelent point my friend. If something does not really exist how can you be a fan of it????

A bunch of fake scans doens't make a series, and most of those fake scans are so bad that I get sick by seeing them.

You know what we need
pens and doodle makers
and we'll make a knock off of AF



~CQ

Cpu_PT
09-09-2007, 07:31 PM
I think that some of my 8 years old sister drawings are better than some AF fakes =P

EDIT: Crimson Quasar you forgot about the crayons dude =P

jeffhardyfan
09-09-2007, 07:57 PM
why would anyone want gohan ssj3.. mystic is 10x better then ssj3.. you don't have the down fall of loseing power over time while fighting.
All they would have to do is stay in the form and get used to it like goku and gohan did with ssj1.

ultimateGoHaN99
09-09-2007, 07:57 PM
It might still take to much energy

jeffhardyfan
09-09-2007, 07:58 PM
It might still take to much energy
I'm sure they thought the same thing about ssj1.

ultimateGoHaN99
09-09-2007, 08:02 PM
Wasn't there something that goku said he couldn't go ss3 on earth very long and that in the otherworld he could for as long as he wanted.

And It wasn't b/c goku only had a little bit of time on earth

jeffhardyfan
09-09-2007, 08:04 PM
Wasn't there something that goku said he couldn't go ss3 on earth very long and that in the otherworld he could for as long as he wanted.

And It wasn't b/c goku only had a little bit of time on earth
Yeah it created a strain on his body just like any other powerup just to a higher extent.

Kakarot_1987
09-09-2007, 08:05 PM
Super Saiyan 3 Gohan would be weaker than Mystic Gohan...... So, no. Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta is an ok idea.

Thats is true but wouldn't it be better if Goku or the Old Supereme Kai help Gohan reach Super Saiyan 3 and then the Old Kai shoudl of unlocked his powers to transform into Mystic Gohan. Mystic Gohan after Super Saiyan 3 would have been maybe as powerful as Kid Buu or close to Super Buu (Buu absorbed Gohan - Buuhan).

What do you think? :D

jeffhardyfan
09-09-2007, 08:06 PM
Thats is true but wouldn't it be better if Goku or the Old Supereme Kai help Gohan reach Super Saiyan 3 and then the Old Kai shoudl of unlocked his powers to transform into Mystic Gohan. Mystic Gohan after Super Saiyan 3 would have been maybe as powerful as Kid Buu or close to Super Buu (Buu absorbed Gohan - Buuhan).

What do you think? :D
Technically he could but that would be so stupid when he could help goku or vegeta instead.

BigLRock
09-09-2007, 09:48 PM
My what if story would have trunks and goten not go super saiyan at all but can fuse into gotenks, let gohan transform into mystic gohan instead of being a separate character, only goku reach super saiyan 3, and have vegeta surpass ssj2, as majin. I always thought there were to many ssj's in the buu saga. It would start a whole new story, but have trunks turn ssj when vegeta died fighting buu. anyone see where i'm going with this...

SuperDylan380
09-09-2007, 11:26 PM
My what if story would have trunks and goten not go super saiyan at all but can fuse into gotenks, let gohan transform into mystic gohan instead of being a separate character, only goku reach super saiyan 3, and have vegeta surpass ssj2, as majin. I always thought there were to many ssj's in the buu saga. It would start a whole new story, but have trunks turn ssj when vegeta died fighting buu. anyone see where i'm going with this...



ya i see where you're going, i think they wanted goten and trunks to have experience as super saiyans though so they would even more remarkable fused like that. and as for the half saiyan fusion theory everyone's talking about, gotenks is half saiyan, the fusion doesn't discard the inferior race to make it better, and besides half-saiyans have more hidden power so it would be better

Kakarot_1987
09-10-2007, 06:46 AM
ya i see where you're going, i think they wanted goten and trunks to have experience as super saiyans though so they would even more remarkable fused like that. and as for the half saiyan fusion theory everyone's talking about, gotenks is half saiyan, the fusion doesn't discard the inferior race to make it better, and besides half-saiyans have more hidden power so it would be better

thts true, half Saiyans have hidden potential, tht is y Gohan in the end is the most powerful saiyan of the lot but he is not the best.

TardyClock
09-10-2007, 09:06 AM
AF is fine, I have no problems with it but its still for the most part poorly written fanfiction. It does not belong in an official DBZ Game.

Kinamatix
09-10-2007, 09:30 AM
Hi Nowsherwan And I aggree there must be SS3 Gohan

GokuSS4...?
09-10-2007, 09:57 AM
Hey all of you guys thanks for joining

Crimson Quasar
09-10-2007, 10:00 AM
I think that some of my 8 years old sister drawings are better than some AF fakes =P

EDIT: Crimson Quasar you forgot about the crayons dude =P
My scousin ate all my crayons...
HOW BOUT FINGER PAINT??!!
Hey all of you guys thanks for joining

okay....
thank you :)



~CQ

Lord_Doku
09-10-2007, 10:16 AM
On-Topic: Mystic Gogeta ^__^

Brotha CMF
09-10-2007, 10:43 AM
Thats is true but wouldn't it be better if Goku or the Old Supereme Kai help Gohan reach Super Saiyan 3 and then the Old Kai shoudl of unlocked his powers to transform into Mystic Gohan. Mystic Gohan after Super Saiyan 3 would have been maybe as powerful as Kid Buu

What do you think? :D

Goku and Gohan are both already more powerful then Kid Buu. Thats what I think.

VBG
09-10-2007, 10:52 AM
They are. I'm too lazy to post the exact proof, but Mystic Gohan and SSJ 3 Goku are stronger than Kid Buu.

SSJ 3 Gohan is ridiculous, Mystic is stronger than SSJ 3 and after achieving mystic you can't use SSJ. GT messed it up, the only explanation is that Gohan's lack of training cost him his mystic power.

supreme vegeta
09-10-2007, 10:55 AM
Butas we all know SSJ 4 is superior to Mystic form.

Lord Nelloz
09-10-2007, 11:22 AM
what if Elder Kai did the same ritual on Goku as he did on Gohan? And please don't say the SSJ3 is the ultimate potential unlocked, because I've never seen it proven or said anywhere (except in these forums, but it was not proven).

VBG
09-10-2007, 12:18 PM
Nope, Goku did not have as much potential as Gohan. Gohan wasted his time being a nerd and never actually used his power to the maximum. Goku always trained to reach the limit of his power.

Pure potential wise, Gohan is better than Goku who's in turn better than Vegeta
Work ethic wise, Vegeta is just better than Goku, who's better than Gohan.

Gohan never trained but always had a HUGE potential.

Kakarot_1987
09-10-2007, 01:37 PM
what if Elder Kai did the same ritual on Goku as he did on Gohan? And please don't say the SSJ3 is the ultimate potential unlocked, because I've never seen it proven or said anywhere (except in these forums, but it was not proven).

Well canon wise Super Saiyan 3 is the full potential of a Super Saiyan unlocked. :D

Why do you guys think it is stupid if gohan learned how to transform into Super Saiyan 3 and the Elder Kai did the ritual. Gohan would have been more powerful.

I think SSJ3 Goku is more powerful but Buu's body is special. Can some please prove why Goku and Gohan are more powerful than Kid Buu?

VBG
09-10-2007, 01:54 PM
Goku says that he is stronger than Kid Buu. If he was at his full power, he would have won.

Gohan is stronger that Goku at the time so Gohan could have also won.

Kakarot_1987
09-10-2007, 06:10 PM
Goku says that he is stronger than Kid Buu. If he was at his full power, he would have won.

Gohan is stronger that Goku at the time so Gohan could have also won.

o ya now i remember but didn't he say tht he could of and if tht is the case then why didn't he go Super Saiyan 3 when he was fighting Super Buu's?

jeffhardyfan
09-10-2007, 06:17 PM
:D

Why do you guys think it is stupid if gohan learned how to transform into Super Saiyan 3 and the Elder Kai did the ritual.

Because gohan has enough transformations. Trunks and vegeta should have ssj3.

Bakutenryu
09-10-2007, 06:31 PM
I dont want to see no AF(Ass Fake/Alternate Future/April Fools) characters, especially him/her. You never know with AF. Plus all we need is GT Gohan and the Gohan set will be perfect.

Kakarot_1987
09-10-2007, 07:45 PM
u can't really call it AF if Vegeta, Gohan , Goten and Trunks achieved Super Saiyan 3 because if Goku did it they can too and it is in the manga, well only Super Saiyan 3 Goku. Wouldn't mind if Gohan and Vegeta go SSJ3 and Goten and Trunks go SSJ2 or Just Vegeta goes SSJ3 and Goten, Trunks goes SSJ2. :D

ssjhax
09-10-2007, 07:50 PM
What if gohan was gokus father. Then he'd be pure blood. Which means- ssj3.

Kakarot_1987
09-10-2007, 07:54 PM
What if gohan was gokus father. Then he'd be pure blood. Which means- ssj3.

Where did the idea tht only pure blooded saiyans can achieve Super Saiyan 3 and beyond?

Kinamatix
09-11-2007, 01:42 AM
SS3 Gohan must go on

Almighty Gohan
09-11-2007, 01:43 AM
What if gohan was gokus father. Then he'd be pure blood. Which means- ssj3.

:weird: Completely random.

dbzmaster28
09-11-2007, 02:34 AM
Ok... just because someone wants a SSJ3 Gohan you think"Thats AF, NO AF!".
Dude come on... its just Gohan ascending to a higher level, it could have nothing to do with AF!
He didn't even mention AF when he Created the Topic?
:weird:
You guys need to chill, they can have What-ifs and Alternate Story lines that have nothing to do with AF.
AF should be complete out of this Topic! :downcast:

Degalon
09-11-2007, 02:43 AM
I still wanna see SS3 Raditz and Nappa, lol.

HOw would the hair work with them, lol?!

bardack85
09-11-2007, 02:44 AM
ssj3 nappa would be cool just for the hair increasing system eh eh eh

Almighty Gohan
09-11-2007, 02:48 AM
Something like this. Just without the eyebrows.

http://kamisama.com.br/nappassj_small.jpg

http://www.maxpages.com/files/dragonballgtnz/raditzssj.jpg

Edit. Hey it worked lol.

The Supreme Kai
09-11-2007, 02:49 AM
interesting

Degalon
09-11-2007, 02:56 AM
Something like this. Just without the eyebrows.
Edit. Hey it worked lol.

NICE, lol...Well I cant see the first picture, but NICE...I kinda half expected Raditz' hair to be twice as long, lol.

Almighty Gohan
09-11-2007, 02:59 AM
Lol. Oh dont quote pics. You cant see the first? hmm...

The Supreme Kai
09-11-2007, 03:01 AM
Gohan is right you should edit your post and remove the pic, just a suggestion

metalgoku san
09-11-2007, 06:34 AM
here is Gohan SSJ4http://www.imagehack.eu/uploads/ca1f182727.jpg

Kakarot_1987
09-11-2007, 07:16 AM
seen tht pic before but still a cool pic. :D

dizzie37
11-17-2007, 11:15 AM
Where the hell did you ever hear that? I remember this half saiyan named Gotenks...;)

Anyway, I would get a kick out of it, but I'd prefer SSJ Pan.
ya how about 2 half humans making 1 human and getting weaker O.o

ultimateGoHaN99
11-17-2007, 11:20 AM
There is no need for a freaking ss3 gohan Ultimate Gohan is stronger gosh dangit dont ever bump this thread again

Kinamatix
11-18-2007, 08:16 AM
SS3 Gohan is the best

Bakutenryu
11-18-2007, 08:44 AM
How can a Saiyan become SSJ3? Well Goku and Gotenks were in other dimensions and they trained there until they learned to achieve it. Plus, Gotenks is a full-blooded saiyan. 1/2 Goten + 1/2 Trunks= 1 Gotenks. Now, I don't think Vegeta could do it because he did'nt train in another dimension, and neither did Gohan. Gohan just trained on another planet, not dimension. SSJ4 is a different story. To become a SSJ4, a saiyan has to be exposed to about over....about 24000 Bruitz Waves? The moon cannot provide that much, but the Earth can, and it can also be achieved with Bulma's Bruitz Wave machine. You can't really say Vegeta "cheated" to become SSJ4 because he had no choice with the moon being his only source of Bruitz Waves. Also, after being exposed to the Waves, the Saiyan will become a golden oozaru which after being able keep their rationality, will become a SSJ4. Thats the real test to become SSJ4: being able to control yourself as a golden ape. Vegeta had no problem with this due to him being used to controling himself as an ape.

InvincibleNahan
11-18-2007, 09:38 AM
Sounds like an interesting Idea but I would rather it be the 11 year old Gohan he would look cooler than his adult form

Gensaiga
11-18-2007, 11:59 AM
Gotenks is a fusion of 2 half-saiyans :rolleyes:


Avi: Try to say something usefull for once :noob:

Edit: I've edited my first post since I'm not entirely sure that is true.

I also remember goten and trunks being half human so if I use your logic then gotenks must be 1 human and 1 pure blooded saiyan.

NeoGohan
11-18-2007, 12:32 PM
I also remember goten and trunks being half human so if I use your logic then gotenks must be 1 human and 1 pure blooded saiyan.

!!!!!!! You are right:bored:

Bakutenryu
11-18-2007, 12:33 PM
I also remember goten and trunks being half human so if I use your logic then gotenks must be 1 human and 1 pure blooded saiyan.



Well....this IS anime..

NeoGohan
11-18-2007, 12:48 PM
Well....this IS anime..
http://static.blogo.it/comicsblog/this_is_sparta.jpg
How can a Saiyan become SSJ3? Well Goku and Gotenks were in other dimensions and they trained there until they learned to achieve it. Plus, Gotenks is a full-blooded saiyan. 1/2 Goten + 1/2 Trunks= 1 Gotenks.
why you think only full-blooded saiyans can become a ssj3?:weird: