what would you prefer? Energy pool or enregy bars?

[gokuhen]

In tenkaichi 1 we had an energy "pool" for our energy, although they did not put much though into this and just kinda slapped it in there.


In T2 and now in 3 we have the traditional energy bars.

I am wondering what people would perfer if each method would be given some thought.

If devs went the energy pool route, it may not look flashy, but it could lead to far more customizability with characters. Like say you pick krillin, and by default he would have lets say 30,000 energy to work with. of course, different attacks of his would consume different quantites of energy and such. But, you could upgrade his energy to near limitless amounts. Again this is just saying.

I thinkk if this mehtod were to be used they should just get rid of an energy bar, and instead have a number that is clearly visible below your helath.



Energy bars however, can be very asthically pleasing to the eyes, and make the HUD kinda flow. However, you are limited to how many you can fit on screen.

[Oozaru Dude]

I think an energy pool is a great idea...

[ssj4 Trunks]

i like bars

[Lord Nelloz]

I prefer bars

[.Cloud.]

Bars>Pools

[Lord Nelloz]

Bars>Pools

Because remember kids, passing your opinions as facts is fun!

[Crimson Quasar]

Bars



~CQ

[Scifen]

i agree with u guys bars over pools aka BOP

[The Supreme Kai]

this pool sounds like a great idea so i say the pool though i still like the bars

[Dreiko]

Pool...castlevania style ftw :).

[gokuhen]

I ask this because I am working on a T4 paper, and so far it is around 40 pages long. I'm waiting till I actually play T3 to finish it, and was just wondering if people would be up for a chnage in the way thier energy worked.


Of course you can still powerup in the pool form. If you are Krillin, and have 50,000 energy as your base, you fire a kamehameha, it eats up lets say, 10,000, well you can always just power back up to 20,000, but how you do it, is something I talk about in my paper

[Oozaru Dude]

I ask this because I am working on a T4 paper, and so far it is around 40 pages long. I'm waiting till I actually play T3 to finish it, and was just wondering if people would be up for a chnage in the way thier energy worked.


Of course you can still powerup in the pool form. If you are Krillin, and have 50,000 energy as your base, you fire a kamehameha, it eats up lets say, 10,000, well you can always just power back up to 20,000, but how you do it, is something I talk about in my paper

Are you gonna post the paper online at one point?

[gokuhen]

yep, but only when it is done. So you will prolly be looking at around the time the game comes out here in NA. I just don't like posting incomplete work. Also, I will post it as a link to one of those file downloading sites, since you can't upload files to the forums here

[kingofgames]

I like the energy Bars
They look more organized, and since its spaced, its easy to decide when to do certain moves

[<_Spike_>]

Bars are best IMO

[Zellgadis]

If you're using T1's energy system as a candidate for an energy pool idea against Ki bars you're using a poor example.

Ki bars are obsolete in my opinion, and if a DBZ developer can budget enough time to make a real "ki pool" energy system work, it'll allow for a fighting experience outlined in a thread I created weeks back.

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=610385

If you've read it, I apologize. If not, give it a skim. Ki bars are an easy way out. A true energy pool is much better (IMO).

[blackman34]

nrg bars

[Kaioken X10]

I perfer enregy bars than energy pool.

[Kusajika Yachiru]

I perfered the bars... with that "pool" as you call it, you didn't know if you had the right ammount of energy to do the atack you wanted. At least wit bars you do a quick check like "Oh I have four bars so I know I can do this attack."

Maybe it's just meh...

[<_Spike_>]

Yeah...they may be the "easy way out" as suggested by some...but they're a helluva lot more convenient than any pool system,

[Kusajika Yachiru]

The one thing I'll admit I liked about the pool style was that it did make it seem a little more like the show, shwing how much energy is put int oeach attac kand how high a characters power level was, that was intresting... but other than tat the pool system can drown.

[<_Spike_>]

Yeah, I suppose realism can be a double edged sword...like realism to the show is cool...but too far close and it's not so hot.

[Kusajika Yachiru]

Yeah, I suppose realism can be a double edged sword...like realism to the show is cool...but too far close and it's not so hot.

Yuppes, I think it's fine how it is now.

[Crimson Quasar]

40 pages eh?



~CQ

[Kamiccolo33]

I think an energy pool is a good idea if they did an overhaul of the gameplay.

For instance, if you could build your characters up like in Final Bout where they could have heaps of energy that would be good.

Also, if they got rid of predefined signature moves and made it that you can equip them, and then the cost of using the attack is defined by how much power you put into it, then that would work. In T1 it was just confusing when it said you needed 3000 to use Special Beam Cannon or something, cause you had no idea.

Maybe if there was an energy pool and you could use any signature move as along as you had ki, but if you only had a little bit of ki, it would be weak as, or, if there was a powerlevel associated with it, it would eat up your power level as well.

Just throwing some ideas out, but they need to add something like this in the next DBZ game regardless if Spike make it or not. Hopefully Dimps will return and base the game on Spike's fighting scheme but revolutionised it once again and made it look superb.

[Crimson Quasar]

it seems so much more complicated though



~CQ

[SuperVegito17]

bars pwn

[piposh]

the pool rulz!!!

[Kusajika Yachiru]

bars pwn

the pool rulz!!!

Fusion!!

Pool Bars (I couldn't be more clever)

Now we can all be happy... yay me!

[gokuhen]

well I suppose using T1 as the example was a really bad idea. What I was thinkign was more along the line of you got your health at the top, then underneath you have your ki amount shown as a number

So for example, using Krillin again, he would have his health, then right under would say "50,000"

You would still be able to judge if you could do a move or not, so say you wanted to do destructo disc, and it is 30,000 ki, yet you have 10,000 at that moment, you would know you need to powerup.


The thing that I always had with bars is that, you could prolly fit like 10 under the health, and for some characters it just doesn't set them apart from super weak ones.

What I mean by this is that usually somoen like ssj4 Gogeta, will have 6 ki bars, yet Grandpa Gohan has 3 or 4. If the pool idea were used ssj4 Gogeta could have like 2,000,000 ki, while Grandpa gohan has 2,000

This doesn't mean that Grandpa Gohan would never win cause he has so feeble of ki, the amount it takes for an attack would be relative. SO for a big bang kamehameha, maybe it would be 1,000,000

and for Grandpa Gohan it would be 500

[Kayro Shin]

Bars are better (imo), since you can actually see how much KI, the attack you will perform, will be consumed.

[Super_Gogeta]

Will same as most of them..Bar for me..:)

[Crimson Quasar]

I third that



~CQ

[MysticGospel]

The pool sounds good, but confusing.

[ss6veku]

pool
only if done right like sky saphire games will though lol

[piposh]

I perfered the bars... with that "pool" as you call it, you didn't know if you had the right ammount of energy to do the atack you wanted. At least wit bars you do a quick check like "Oh I have four bars so I know I can do this attack."

Maybe it's just meh...
you can always use the attack, the question is how strong do you want it to be?

[Static-X]

Bars for me.