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RandBlade
12-11-2007, 07:47 AM
Brown to miss EU treaty ceremony (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7138316.stm)
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Mr Brown is due to face senior MPs on the day of the signing

No 10 says the PM will not be able to attend the ceremony because he is to be grilled by a committee of senior MPs.
But arrangements have been made for Mr Brown to leave London straight after the Commons Liaison Committee hearing.
He will miss the official signing event but will join EU heads of government at lunch and will sign the treaty later.
The EU Reform treaty has proved politically controversial, with the Tories arguing that it is substantially the same as the abandoned EU Constitution, on which a referendum was promised by Labour.
Ratification needed
But the government says the two documents are different, making a public vote on the treaty unnecessary.
Mr Brown has been invited to Lisbon by the Portuguese government - which holds the EU presidency - along with the leaders of the other 26 EU member states.
The EU Constitution was thrown out in 2005 after it was rejected by Dutch and French voters.
The treaty, once it is signed, still has to be ratified by the UK and all other member countries before coming into force. Foreign Secretary David Miliband is expected to sign the treaty on the UK's behalf Brown has been likened to Macavity the cat, who is never there when the "dirty work" needs to be done. Now he won't even represent the country in signing the EU Constitution, I mean treaty.

Dreadnaught
12-11-2007, 07:53 AM
This guy seemed to sink rather quick, didn't he? :bored:

Steely Glint
12-11-2007, 08:21 AM
I'd actually vote for Macavity.

So, not that like him then. :o

Khendraja'aro
12-11-2007, 10:09 AM
Brown has been likened to Macavity the cat, who is never there when the "dirty work" needs to be done. Now he won't even represent the country in signing the EU Constitution, I mean treaty.

Wouldn't that be "Macavity who was never there when the dirty deed was done"? As in: Always has an alibi?

Hazir
12-11-2007, 12:14 PM
Brown has been likened to Macavity the cat, who is never there when the "dirty work" needs to be done. Now he won't even represent the country in signing the EU Constitution, I mean treaty.I think we can move mr Brown from the column eurosceptic to the column eurohostile.

By the way, I wonder how the Irish government can conclude there will be sovereignty transferred to the EU while at the same time the Danish government concludes there will be no sovereignty transferred. You'd say such contrary conclusions would be impossible about the same document.

RandBlade
12-11-2007, 12:34 PM
Yep, that's it Khen.
I think we can move mr Brown['s interpretation of the British electorate] from the column eurosceptic to the column eurohostile.Fixed. If the British public was perceived to be europhile he'd be the first person there today.
By the way, I wonder how the Irish government can conclude there will be sovereignty transferred to the EU while at the same time the Danish government concludes there will be no sovereignty transferred. You'd say such contrary conclusions would be impossible about the same document. Because governments (of all colours) are saying what they want to, rather than what the truth is.

Dormouse
12-11-2007, 02:06 PM
He's more of a Pollicle Dog. ;)

Can't believe we're talking about this...

LittleFuzzy
12-11-2007, 05:46 PM
I think we can move mr Brown from the column eurosceptic to the column eurohostile.

By the way, I wonder how the Irish government can conclude there will be sovereignty transferred to the EU while at the same time the Danish government concludes there will be no sovereignty transferred. You'd say such contrary conclusions would be impossible about the same document.

Haven't you and Rand been having that same argument for years?

RandBlade
12-11-2007, 06:23 PM
LOL :haha:

Actually I think we're rather agreed there is a transfer, just more disagreed on whether there should be one and how nations should proceed.

Phobas
12-12-2007, 05:25 AM
By the way, I wonder how the Irish government can conclude there will be sovereignty transferred to the EU while at the same time the Danish government concludes there will be no sovereignty transferred. You'd say such contrary conclusions would be impossible about the same document.

Perhaps its because the text of the treaty is so convoluted and opaque that it could mean anything, probably does.