The Titanic - Update post #1 & #99 [Archive]

simonf

01-20-2008, 07:26 AM

Working on a new Titanic set,

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8927/shot0010ju0.jpg

I can't find the OVL files in the Themed folder when i install with RCT3 Importer, so when i'm finished with the set I can't make the set available for download!

Please!

simonf

01-20-2008, 07:29 AM

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6031/shot0060ox3.jpg

RudeboyDevil

01-20-2008, 07:37 AM

theres already a set of titanic.....

simonf

01-20-2008, 08:05 AM

Not Like this, this is the whole boat!

RudeboyDevil

01-20-2008, 08:23 AM

right.....

well i cannot see the pics, use imageshack.us for direct image

-Nuclear Fish-

01-20-2008, 08:29 AM

simonf

01-20-2008, 08:35 AM

You right, but i LOVE Titanic, so basically I make this model for my self ( And those who like Titanic

-Nuclear Fish-

01-20-2008, 08:35 AM

So how are you planning to use it in RCT3?

simonf

01-20-2008, 08:40 AM

When i play i just like to build City's and stoff like that and things form the real world

Bio|Hazard

01-20-2008, 08:45 AM

Even though there's a Titanic set already out, it does'nt matter. If he wants a go at it let him. Dont break him down like that it really has a effect on CS creators. Good luck with this

sjeskie007

01-20-2008, 11:25 AM

well i love your start! :)

Carrie White

01-20-2008, 11:59 AM

I like this. I could use it for a que house structure, scenery for a dolphin or whale show, a shopping area, part of a water ride....there are a thousand uses for this. It doesn't have to be "Titanic' just because the set is called
"Titanic".

Apophis_420

01-20-2008, 12:05 PM

The hull of the ship looks great! I'm looking forward to this set myself. I've been into the tradgedy of the Titanic for a long time, a long time before that stupid movie! LOL Keep up the good work!:up:

simonf

01-20-2008, 12:06 PM

http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rtc33wb2.jpg

simtanic8

01-20-2008, 12:06 PM

Looks alright so far. But why are you making this set? Can you think of any uses for it? There aren't many uses for a Titanic in a theme park, and if anyone wanted to make a Titanic ride... well, Birou's already done that, I doubt there will ever be one better than his. And if I was Birou and people started making Titanic rides using just a single piece of CS,. I'd feel a bit annoyed that people are trying to 'compete' with his ride just by clicking and placing one item of scenery.

Don't get me wrong, this could turn out to be a great model, but I don't really think there's any need for it.

Its just a scenery set. The other Titanic set didnt have the ship and this one does. Who cares if there is another Titanic set. You could use it as a scenery in a park, just like at Disney Sea in Tokyo they have a giant boat. You could do so many things with it. Use it for a restraughnt exterior, a movie theater, and many other things.

Great job so far on it. Cant wait ot see the next update.

~Simtanic8

remykyes

01-20-2008, 01:23 PM

YAY!!!! I could think of quite a few uses for this set! Keep up the good work! Also, I would get the other Titanic set just in case you want anything from there, but don't forget to give credit where credit is due!!!

Quince99

01-20-2008, 02:07 PM

As a B-I-G fan of ocean liners - my site is www.ocean-liners.co.uk - I would love to use the classic hull shape with straight or clipper stem and counter stern to recreate my favourite ships!!

The Titanic details already released are fabulous :D and would complement your work tremendously. If you need reference material, please feel free to download images from my site or PM me for details/plans if you feel you need these.

Full steam ahead with this most promising set and I look forward to being able to create more realistic hull shapes for my Maritime Museum park and and bits of spare water!!!

RudeboyDevil

01-20-2008, 02:59 PM

use link of image

to make direct image shown on the thread :)

Xcelerate

01-20-2008, 03:03 PM

So how are you planning to use it in RCT3?
Give it to Birou and tell him to make a movie for you, lol. I really like the hull, but it seems like the underwater section seems to extend to deep (this is just me though). Great work ;).

abercrombiehart

01-20-2008, 03:14 PM

i think its gorgeous and it would be pretty useful for my park! The only thing that I can suggest is to make the interiors such as the turkish baths, the first class lounge the reading rooms the saloons and dining rooms..maybe even some of the suites omg it would be gorgeous another thing would be to make it compatible with the Grand Staircase set thats already been released....so if you need any help i would be more than happy to...i would offer to help you make some of the models but your 3d software looks more powerful than mine..if you need any help at all please let me know i really looks forward to seeing this set coming to full fruition!

Good Luck!
Abercrombiehart

sigsig76

01-20-2008, 03:36 PM

i like it

simonf

01-20-2008, 05:12 PM

Thaks everyone,

But i have a problem:

I Have lot of fils in the game (for these model) that I dosen't use. I used the RCT3 Importer to install them and now i dont know have to delete them.

Old-Spice

01-20-2008, 05:14 PM

That looks awsome. I'm a long time fan of the Titanic. it started when i was very very young.

Great job. I will use this!

open you themed folder and hold the CTRL key and select all the files that you want deleted and hit delete!

simonf

01-20-2008, 05:38 PM

The problem is that I dont find the fils in the Themed Folder

Xcelerate

01-20-2008, 05:49 PM

^Well, um...I'm not sure. Sorry. If you see it as a piece of scenery in the game, I always thought it's in the C:/Program Files/Atari/RCT3/Style/Themed. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

rideslover

01-20-2008, 06:13 PM

Oh yes, I remember it but I don't know if you got bow and back ship as Titanic?

Xcelerate

01-20-2008, 10:34 PM

Oh yes, I remember it but I don't know if you got bow and back ship as Titanic?
I'm pretty sure the area near the stern had "Titanic" on it, but I don't think the front has it (it's a myth). If I'm wrong, please correct me.

simonf

01-21-2008, 09:27 AM

You right, It's on the stern and the front,

I'm working on it

Xcelerate

01-21-2008, 10:20 AM

You right, It's on the stern and the front,

I'm working on it
Er...are you sure it's on the bow? I'm looking at one of Ken Marchall's paintings and there is no "Titanic" on the bow. Ken Marshall pays extreme attention to detail (he once researched how many stars there were on the American flag in 1912 so he could paint that on Titanic's mast). So yeah, I'm pretty sure the bow has no "Titanic" on it. Sorry if I sounds rude, I'm just trying to help you perfect your model ;). Good luck :up:.

simonf

01-21-2008, 11:36 AM

It has, i have i book with Ken Marchall's paintings, trust me it is.

Xcelerate

01-21-2008, 11:49 AM

It has, i have i book with Ken Marchall's paintings, trust me it is.
Ah, you're right. Sorry. At school I learned that that the "Titanic" on the bow was added after the photo was taken. Also, I apologize for that; I was viewing the painting in poor lighting ("Titanic" looks like it's black :weird:). Anyway, keep it up ;). Maybe sometime in the future, you can play with the textures, add a few structures, and make Britannic or something.

Quince99

01-21-2008, 11:53 AM

It has, i have i book with Ken Marchall's paintings, trust me it is.

Absolutely right, the name TITANIC was on both sides of the bow and at the stern along with the port of registry, Liverpool. The following from Harland and Wolff's 270 pages of specifications:

"...The sheer line to be cut in and to receive two coats of yellow [paint]. The name and Port of Registry to be cut in and receive two coats of yellow, the letters being 18" for the name on the bow and 12" for the name and Port of Registry on the stern."

The yellow actually looked gold against the black of the hull and separated that colour from the white of the superstructure. In the late 1920s, the gold line was moved down a strake in the plating leaving black either side.

If you specifically want to model Titanic then the sheer line needs to be between black and white as (ovbiously) the Titanic never survived beyond 1912.

Xcelerate

01-21-2008, 11:58 AM

Okay, fine. You guys win me over. Btw, does anyone have Ken Marschall's art of the Titanic? It's very useful (it provides renders at almost every angle of the Titanic).

Quince99

01-21-2008, 12:01 PM

Okay, fine. You guys win me over. Btw, does anyone have Ken Marschall's art of the Titanic? It's very useful (it provides renders at almost every angle of the Titanic).

Have almost every book with Ken's illustrations in including this one. Have only a very average scanner though - what would you need specifically?

Xcelerate

01-21-2008, 12:03 PM

No, I don't need any scans. Thank you for asking. I was just asking because I felt it was a very useful tool to have especially when re-building the Titanic 3D wise.

RCT-Spanky

01-21-2008, 12:34 PM

I'm normally not the person, who talked abouit a high polygon count, but I see, that you have windows and doors in the deckparts. If you really make the Titanic as one single object, you will have thousends of polygons at the end. Use Alpha-Textures to save polygons. A good texture could save time and space.

Also, an object of this size could crash the game, if you have the shadow option on. And a single Titanic object is maybe okay, but don't forget, that you place normally a lot of other scenery beside this object. I don't want to bring you (or any other scenery creator) down, but please accept some hints from us old CS-rabbits.

You can do, whatever you want, but I'm sure you will not go in the RCT-CS-History as the one, with the scenery, that crash the game. So keep always the simple rules for CS in your mind.

simonf

01-21-2008, 12:40 PM

This is not one model, when i'm finished it will be about 40 - 50 files, because i can just make fils with one color at time

Xcelerate

01-21-2008, 12:41 PM

^Yes, RCT Spanky is correct, the polygon count seems to be very high. Wow it looks very nice! Simon, you do realize that the Titanic carried only 16 lifeboats right? That's a little detail for you ;).

birou006

01-21-2008, 01:01 PM

Wow, I wish I had this available to me during my ride. Oh well, that's life. Anyway, Titanic actually had 20 lifeboats, 16 ones on davits and 4 collapsibles. They both floated off the ship and one capsized.

Also, I think it would be cool if you could upload the Titanic pieces at a 45 degree angle, that would be sweet, showing the ship sinking without having to seriously tilt the camera (like I had to). Keep it up. Can't wait to see the smokestacks and other details. ;)

remykyes

01-21-2008, 01:09 PM

Did you also realize that it (sadly) was above the required number of lifeboats for a ship that size back in 1912? So sad. Only enough for half the people on-board. And many of those lifeboats were never launched with a full capacity. Over 2,228 people on board and only enough room for 1,176 of them to get off the ship. 711 people were saved that night or 31.97% of the total passengers and crew onboard, meaning that 68.03% perished either on-board the Titanic or died in the freezing waters of the north Atlantic Ocean.

simonf

01-21-2008, 01:14 PM

The plan is to make two or three models when the ship is sinking, but not when it braks in two

Xcelerate

01-21-2008, 04:29 PM

rideslover

01-21-2008, 04:35 PM

wow that is the huge oceanliner.

Xcelerate

01-21-2008, 05:20 PM

Maybe it's just me, but are the chimneys/smokestacks a little to thin!?

simonf

01-21-2008, 05:48 PM

They are from the other Titanic set, i have a littel problem with mine,

remykyes

01-22-2008, 09:54 AM

keep up the great work! IT LOOKS AWESOME!!! 5 STARS!

LDPplayerRCT3

01-22-2008, 02:22 PM

Since some people dont really like the fact that theres supposedly no use for a Titanic piece, why not make this a boat set? Make a a bunch of different boats like barges and freight carriers and some smaller boats. (I was looking for something like that)

J.M.W.Thieves

01-22-2008, 02:38 PM

When i play i just like to build City's and stoff like that and things form the real world
Yes me to and I have to say, when I saw the titanic from birou006 I liked
it very much. So I decided to make the titanic too, but it was to hard, I also make city's like Amsterdam, and I wanted the Titanic in my city too, then I saw your new creation I was very glad. It makes it a loooot easier.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, looks very very good!

simonf

01-26-2008, 07:54 AM

I have a problem, when I Install new files to game some of them won't work and the game crashes,
Any Help?

deadstar

01-26-2008, 08:53 AM

try with shadows of..

simonf

01-26-2008, 09:13 AM

Thanks it worked, now i can move on with the model,

just one other thing, how can i avoid that the model is invert

RCT3robin

01-26-2008, 09:20 AM

fix orientation button

( create ovl > models ( press the + ) > on the left theree stands transformation matrix under that there stands edit > then you see special there is fix orientatiion button :)

simonf

01-26-2008, 09:47 AM

okei, thanks

RCT3robin

01-26-2008, 09:58 AM

no problem ;)

simonf

01-29-2008, 02:52 PM

How can i make widows like on these model? That lighten in the night??
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9610/rtc31px6.jpg

Belgabor

01-29-2008, 03:02 PM

Either use a SI...Unlit texture style or use a SIEmissive style with an appropriate effect map (an alpha map where the opacity translates to brightness).

simonf

01-29-2008, 03:11 PM

And how does i that?

RCT3robin

01-29-2008, 04:45 PM

in the importer settings , create ovl , press the + by model then load your model, then texture style , then search what belgabor said ;)

abercrombiehart

01-30-2008, 09:33 PM

r u making any of the interiors? and is it to RCT3 scale..in other words can peeps walk thru it?

Xcelerate

01-30-2008, 10:22 PM

r u making any of the interiors? and is it to RCT3 scale..in other words can peeps walk thru it?
If I'm not mistaken, I think it would be quite hard. This isn't like Dream Works Studios you know ;)...

simonf

02-02-2008, 08:30 AM

Thanks for the help but i still dont know how to do it,

Can someone be so kind to upload some pictures from impoter were you show how i can make those widows that lighten in the night??

Please!

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8423/rtc35sm1.jpg

rideslover

02-05-2008, 07:50 PM

I like to see more picture of Titanic with peep on it.

Xcelerate

02-05-2008, 09:11 PM

Simon, I would love to help, but I'm not a CS maker. You have already posted this question on the Custom Scenery section, right? From the first two blurry pics, I think I can firmly say that your attention to detail is superb.

simonf

02-06-2008, 01:03 PM

DELETED

RCT3robin

02-06-2008, 01:06 PM

omg:eek2: that looks Cool dude:up:

simonf

02-06-2008, 01:08 PM

:)thanks

Ckef01

02-06-2008, 01:11 PM

Amazing! So much detail in that.. Look the front of the ship, just nothing is missing!!!
One question:
how the heck have you made those cables??

Quince99

02-06-2008, 02:43 PM

This looks absolutely stunning in these few shots :up: - like the previous post I am impressed by the cables, guy ropes, stays and wireless antennae. This would seem to be incredibly difficult even from my brief experience with custom scenery.

Looking forward to seeing more of this exqusite detail and some close-up screenshots as and when you have time to post would be most appreciated.

rideslover

02-06-2008, 03:17 PM

thank you and look good

Xcelerate

02-06-2008, 09:30 PM

AMAZING. Oh, I have to stop myself from drooling. Anyway, it might just be me, but is the maroon on thr bottom of the hull a little light?

AlwayShine

02-07-2008, 07:13 AM

Maybe, you could make more boats, boats who are totally different then TITANIC. That would be very cool.

simonf

02-08-2008, 06:29 PM

Fences coming soon

rideslover

02-08-2008, 08:30 PM

Wow, great job! I love the Titanic Ship. what is one missing? the Anchor.

simonf

02-11-2008, 06:12 PM

http://bildr.no/image/155066.jpeg

http://bildr.no/image/155069.jpeg

kylr23

02-12-2008, 02:33 PM

I remember there being a titanic like think on rct2:D. Oh I predict a mod will come. It looks nice but, you would need to split it in to small peices so it wont crash the game.

RCT3robin

02-12-2008, 02:34 PM

please dont double post
and the picturs are a bit small

simonf

02-12-2008, 02:36 PM

right now the ship is 30 files, so i think its okey.

I don't think the pictures are to small

RCT3robin

02-12-2008, 03:00 PM

no your pictures are nice and big , but i mean the last 2 pictures ;)

simonf

02-12-2008, 03:02 PM

why are they to small? Because you can't see the whole boat?

RCT3robin

02-12-2008, 03:52 PM

http://bildr.no/image/155069.jpeg

http://bildr.no/image/155066.jpeg

mean those bit tiny , but dont mind it:noob:

biogal

02-12-2008, 04:01 PM

Simonf, please don't double post, and please make sure your pictures don't invoke the horizontal scrollbar. Pictures should be jpegs, no larger than 800 x 600. Thanks.

simonf

02-13-2008, 01:22 PM

http://bildr.no/image/155505.jpeg

birou006

02-13-2008, 02:01 PM

Can you please make the pictures bigger. I can't see any of the details.

simonf

02-13-2008, 05:34 PM

The model in the picture is not the sinking model, i haven't started at that one jet, so the picture is just a snik pik at how it may look like.

The picture is rotated

rctman12

02-13-2008, 07:54 PM

AMAZINGLY!! DETIALD!!

abercrombiehart

02-13-2008, 11:10 PM

will this have interiors? such as the grand staircase, the lounges, or the dining rooms? maybe even some of the first class suites?

simonf

02-14-2008, 10:31 AM

Maybe, i been thinking about making the first class luxury suite, the first class dining room and maybe the grand staircase,
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9466/utennavngkj4.jpg

I gus i can use these sketchup models

I could be fine if someone could help make some of the interiors

Vodhin

02-14-2008, 12:30 PM

Hmmmm... Me thinks this set is closer to the Titanic than you may know...

simonf

02-14-2008, 12:32 PM

what do you mean?

RCT3robin

02-14-2008, 12:44 PM

That it has nice details man :up:

simonf

02-14-2008, 12:49 PM

Thats great, I'm tring tying to make the windows at the black part as like on the originale ship

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7605/shot0055xj0.jpg

Ckef01

02-14-2008, 03:03 PM

Wow! that detail!!
But are those seats not extreme high poly???
And I can see that if you look into the hole of the little pipes you can look trough it, make those texture double sided ;)

biogal

02-14-2008, 03:11 PM

simonf, please fix the other two pictures in your post. Click on the edit button and replace the IMG tags with shot tags. Pictures should be no larger than 800 x 600. I've done the first one for you so you can see how to fix it. Thanks. And please don't double post...

simonf

02-14-2008, 03:54 PM

abercrombiehart

02-14-2008, 04:47 PM

well actually since u mentioned that you'd like some help with the interiors i'd be more than happy to help, but i'd need to have have your titanic model in order to scale the interiors correctly

biogal

02-14-2008, 05:20 PM

I conna fix every problem, I still miss some pices like all the doors,

The are very high poly at some of the pices in these model, but my game workes perfect

I treid the tips "biogal", i don't know why but it diden't work

It works if you put "shot" in the brackets at either end, just like IMG. Did you click on edit and see what I did?

simonf

02-14-2008, 05:23 PM

well actually since u mentioned that you'd like some help with the interiors i'd be more than happy to help, but i'd need to have have your titanic model in order to scale the interiors correctly

I don't think you need the model because it's not so important that the interiors are on the exactly right place, that's just important for the grand staircase and i can make that one. I'm most interested to make the first class interior,
And anyway i can't give you the model because of the problem in post #1

It works if you put "shot" in the brackets at either end, just like IMG. Did you click on edit and see what I did?

I will do it for the next update

birou006

02-14-2008, 05:52 PM

My god...will all this amazing new scenery I might have to redo my Titanic movie. :eek:

simonf

02-19-2008, 02:46 PM

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7320/shot0051qn1.jpg

PrehistoricPark

02-19-2008, 06:37 PM

When are they gonna be release?

Xcelerate

02-19-2008, 06:39 PM

^^Simon, that's great :D. This is really up to you, but the angle of tilt on the Titanic doesn't seem right. Great job :up:.

simonf

02-20-2008, 09:36 AM

^^Simon, that's great . This is really up to you, but the angle of tilt on the Titanic doesn't seem right. Great job .

The picture of the sinking Titanic is not like what the model will be angled, it's just a picture of how it's may look like

When are they gonna be release?

I don't know jet, I still have the problem in post #1