Next Best Ideas for the 4th series!! I hope Atari designers considers this!!

[lucid.sublime]

The 4th series should have:

I. 2 on 2 combat or 3 on 3 combat!! like in the introduction video, yeah it would take time to configure this, considering all the current advanced gameplay but it would be so worth it!! the game could also include special combat techniques that include two characters at once in an attack or defense such as throws, powerblasts, etc.
- ex: - player 1 & computer 1 vs. player 2 & computer 2
- player 1 & player 2 vs. computer 1 & computer 2
II. Online gameplay and tournaments also perhaps you could just enter a tournament to watch other people play against each other as viewing option.see VI.

III. Improved nature physics and graphics: if the game is to move up to ps3 or xbox 360, then much more real terrain and real water physics like when a character is thrown into the water or terrain damage should be more realistical and not collapse completely all of a sudden such as the buildings or the hills. Not necessarily improved character image would be needed.

IV. More interesting levels (the levels currently are great) but they could include starting out in a thick tropical rainforest or redwood tree forest, or perhaps steep mountain side level ~with perhaps a 45 degree slant running through the whole level like in vigilante 8 or maybe starting in the grand canyon.

V. More inanimate objects in levels or perhaps animate objects like people, animals, maybe characters can pick up inanimate objects such as cars and use them in attacks or defenses...

VI. More versatile replay options: not just the behind the character camera but camera angles like in sports games in multiple locations and rewind/fast foward options, could make for more fun times with friends..

please comment! please spread the ideas! maybe Atari will consider!:rolleyes:

[ntk.ne0]

Tenkaichi 4


NO

NO


NO!

[Lishenron]

If you don't want their to be a tenkaichi 4, why are you even on this board in the first place? To troll?

[ntk.ne0]

i am expressing my distaste for this awful game and as a consumer i am also expressing my distaste for a possible sequel in the future.

if you don't want to read my posts, why do you follow me around? to troll?

[Lishenron]

But you hardly give any reasons why the game is horrible. All you do is make posts like "tenkaichi sucks" without back up. You havent even given a proper explanation as for why you don't want another tenkaichi. Instead, you are a pure Bt3 hater. But if you hate the Bt series so much, why exactly are you here? Why would you not wan't a sequel that would improve on tenkaichi?

This is also a message board, and I am simply getting sick of your ignorance. As I have said before, brush up, or you'll get the ban. Simple as that.

[ntk.ne0]

lolol big e-thug aren't you

[Lishenron]

I'm not an "e-thug" of any sort. I'm just trying to break that ignorant skull of yours. You have a terrible mod history here, so tell me, whats your purpose here on the Tenkaichi 3 board, a game which you despise?

[True Perfection]

i am expressing my distaste for this awful game and as a consumer i am also expressing my distaste for a possible sequel in the future.

Li is right. If you hate the game so much why DO YOU bother posting this forum? If you don't want a BT4 when one does come out, don't buy it. Simple!

II. Online gameplay and tournaments also perhaps you could just enter a tournament to watch other people play against each other as viewing option.see VI.

III. Improved nature physics and graphics: if the game is to move up to ps3 or xbox 360, then much more real terrain and real water physics like when a character is thrown into the water or terrain damage should be more realistical and not collapse completely all of a sudden such as the buildings or the hills. Not necessarily improved character image would be needed.

IV. More interesting levels (the levels currently are great) but they could include starting out in a thick tropical rainforest or redwood tree forest, or perhaps steep mountain side level ~with perhaps a 45 degree slant running through the whole level like in vigilante 8 or maybe starting in the grand canyon.

V. More inanimate objects in levels or perhaps animate objects like people, animals, maybe characters can pick up inanimate objects such as cars and use them in attacks or defenses...

VI. More versatile replay options: not just the behind the character camera but camera angles like in sports games in multiple locations and rewind/fast foward options, could make for more fun times with friends..

I like those ideas, but I still think a 2 on 2 would not work in a Tenkaichi game.

[ntk.ne0]

excuse me i believe i signed up on these boards to express my feedback and opinion

[betto]

The 4th series should have:

I. 2 on 2 combat or 3 on 3 combat!! like in the introduction video, yeah it would take time to configure this, considering all the current advanced gameplay but it would be so worth it!! the game could also include special combat techniques that include two characters at once in an attack or defense such as throws, powerblasts, etc.
- ex: - player 1 & computer 1 vs. player 2 & computer 2
- player 1 & player 2 vs. computer 1 & computer 2
II. Online gameplay and tournaments also perhaps you could just enter a tournament to watch other people play against each other as viewing option.see VI.

III. Improved nature physics and graphics: if the game is to move up to ps3 or xbox 360, then much more real terrain and real water physics like when a character is thrown into the water or terrain damage should be more realistical and not collapse completely all of a sudden such as the buildings or the hills. Not necessarily improved character image would be needed.

IV. More interesting levels (the levels currently are great) but they could include starting out in a thick tropical rainforest or redwood tree forest, or perhaps steep mountain side level ~with perhaps a 45 degree slant running through the whole level like in vigilante 8 or maybe starting in the grand canyon.

V. More inanimate objects in levels or perhaps animate objects like people, animals, maybe characters can pick up inanimate objects such as cars and use them in attacks or defenses...

VI. More versatile replay options: not just the behind the character camera but camera angles like in sports games in multiple locations and rewind/fast foward options, could make for more fun times with friends..

please comment! please spread the ideas! maybe Atari will consider!:rolleyes:

Your ideas are much better than mine, but I have to agree with True Perfection about the 2 on 2... I don't think it can work....

[Lishenron]

excuse me i believe i signed up on these boards to express my feedback and opinion

And there is also something called "trolling". You have annoyed everyone on the BL boards, including me, and you have shown to be a major tenkaichi hater. If you hate tenkaichi, don't want a sequel, why are you here? To TROLL

[ntk.ne0]

to say i dont want a sequel

[Lishenron]

Except that this topic isnt asking if you want a sequel or not. Its about giving ideas for the sequel. Basically, what you are doing is trolling here

[exchrystalsword]

Except that this topic isnt asking if you want a sequel or not. Its about giving ideas for the sequel. Basically, what you are doing is trolling here


Well in all honesty this is the BT3 forums not the possible BT4 forums. You can post to your eyes bleed about how we need a T4, ideads for T4, T4 blah blah blah, but yet nothing will happen until that game is confirmed. So really it is annoying to see all these useless threads about stuff for a game that cant even be confirmed, and if it ever is confirmed it wont be made for at least a year. So i'd rather have trolls in the forums then spam on a game that technically doesn't exist. :down:

[TalonCX]

I. I have to agree with this one I think it would work based on the gameplay from the old ps1 game DBZ Legends. Actually they took alot of the movement already from that game and yea that had 3 vs 3 and it was the most fun with the balance system to figure out who was winning the match. I also like the tag team moves idea it would be fun to see who can pull it off like the father son or the a someone grabbing the opponent while the other finishes them both as a last ditch effort. It might have to be done with system link, or online but it could work for sure. As long as the aiming was done correctly and easy that way if all four or six people are near eachother the hits count correctly.

II. You mean a lobby like in DOA??? Yea thats not a bad idea only problem I think it tends to lag the players... but its still fun to watch I cant lie. Might I add to that the need for interesting camera angles so it feels like your watching the show. Cause sometimes in the dull moments in the fight it takes away the feel of watching cause the fighters are trying to figure out what to do, but if you have great camera angles then it really doesnt matter.

III. The improved physics yea might i add something that was suggested on another thread on here... Running the ground element is heavily missing from the game I think the terrain and such is fine but without the ability to really feel gravity in your jump and actions on the ground it feels abit like your just floating. So running and jumping and maybe different floor combos from air combos.

VI. I just have to agree with this one

Also I have to keep trying for this the CAC system really needs to be put in. Many people dont agree and thats fine. But for the people that dont want to use it I say just put the option on to turn it on and off simple as that, or maybe Im just going to have to wait for Dragon Ball Online if they ever finish that.

[True Perfection]

I have heard DBZ Legends was a mess and 3 on 3 or 2 on 2 would cause MASSIVE slowdown.

[Darknat]

I. I have to agree with this one I think it would work based on the gameplay from the old ps1 game DBZ Legends. Actually they took alot of the movement already from that game and yea that had 3 vs 3 and it was the most fun with the balance system to figure out who was winning the match. I also like the tag team moves idea it would be fun to see who can pull it off like the father son or the a someone grabbing the opponent while the other finishes them both as a last ditch effort. It might have to be done with system link, or online but it could work for sure. As long as the aiming was done correctly and easy that way if all four or six people are near eachother the hits count correctly.


3 vs 3 and 2 vs 2 won't work well with the actual engine, and they didn't work well with the legends game.

For instance when you were fighting, you must have one of the enemies locked, so if another one attacks you even if it's in front of you you weren't able to hit him unless you changed the lock. That was a mess, and too chaotic to be really good gameplay.

I do want 3 vs 3 and 2 vs 2, but not something even close to the way legends did it.

[TalonCX]

3 vs 3 and 2 vs 2 won't work well with the actual engine, and they didn't work well with the legends game.

For instance when you were fighting, you must have one of the enemies locked, so if another one attacks you even if it's in front of you you weren't able to hit him unless you changed the lock. That was a mess, and too chaotic to be really good gameplay.

I do want 3 vs 3 and 2 vs 2, but not something even close to the way legends did it.

I'm sorry thats not true, I'm not trying to start a fight on here, but my friends and I and the people that we found could play the game WELL actually used the system great. It made perfect sense the person you where locked onto was the person you would go after. And if someone else was locked onto you and you didn't notice well then you where going to get hit. BTW it was the greatest feeling in the world to switch mid combo to say if your Goku vs Krillin and Gohan to go after Gohan fight with him chain him into a combo and when Krillin flies over to save him switch lock on hit Krillin away with one blow and still continue your combo on Gohan how much more Dragon Ball Z can you get then that. It made for great fake outs and sudden change of battle because they could random change character and lock on going after a weak character with a far greater and turning the tide of battle in seconds with some heavy links. I just meant your reactions have to be quick and not just about who you where specifically fighting but the entire battle going on in general.

We did find that the people that didnt like the system didnt give it a chance to really learn it before disliking it not saying thats you but Im stating that it had an interesting curve. Besides if you ever played legends story mode it moves just like T3 now with even the behind the back view camera angle until you where close enough to battle then it would switch back to side view.

I would lov to see what me and a teamate could do against two other players in real time. Round for Round is cool, but it would be so much better imagine having to end the Buu Saga in story mode with Vegeta and Goku VS Buu in real time. The CPU Buu could be so much stronger then the both of you it would make it epic.

N True Perfection the "Massive slowdown" for one was about average with the fighting games of its time. N also it depended on the way you where playing it. When we had the imported PS1 it worked fine with very little slow down, but when we tried the million and one ways from the boot cd to the chip n such it had more slow down. Like Im not trying to be a fanboy of the game but I just think people didn't give it the respect it deserved because at the time it was very different. The T series got much of its design from it as I stated before down to the up being held to move toward your opponent in flight and the down being to retreat.


I do have a question for everyone though, would you guys say to add the old Dragon Ball GT build up to the character customization of the next T game. My reason for bringing it up is because I do like the who le potra system its cool. But I like the hard work of the GT build up where what ever you took real man hours working on actually got stronger, ie your punches your combos your blasts . You couldn't just add a ring or such and have the move. That meant you didn't have a dozen super strong characters because you actually had to take the time out to build them up. I think that should be added to list of things to include for next installment

[Darknat]

I'm sorry thats not true, I'm not trying to start a fight on here, but my friends and I and the people that we found could play the game WELL actually used the system great. It made perfect sense the person you where locked onto was the person you would go after. And if someone else was locked onto you and you didn't notice well then you where going to get hit. BTW it was the greatest feeling in the world to switch mid combo to say if your Goku vs Krillin and Gohan to go after Gohan fight with him chain him into a combo and when Krillin flies over to save him switch lock on hit Krillin away with one blow and still continue your combo on Gohan how much more Dragon Ball Z can you get then that. It made for great fake outs and sudden change of battle because they could random change character and lock on going after a weak character with a far greater and turning the tide of battle in seconds with some heavy links. I just meant your reactions have to be quick and not just about who you where specifically fighting but the entire battle going on in general.

We did find that the people that didnt like the system didnt give it a chance to really learn it before disliking it not saying thats you but Im stating that it had an interesting curve. Besides if you ever played legends story mode it moves just like T3 now with even the behind the back view camera angle until you where close enough to battle then it would switch back to side view.


Well, I did take the time to learn how to play and I have beaten it a lot of times, I'm not saying it's a bad game. But I really don't like the way the multiple opponents fights worked.

Also, I prefer the previous title for the PC Engine that had a similar gameplay minus the multiple opponents and with way more different attacks. Actually, besides Tenkaichi 3, that's my favourite DBZ game



I do have a question for everyone though, would you guys say to add the old Dragon Ball GT build up to the character customization of the next T game. My reason for bringing it up is because I do like the who le potra system its cool. But I like the hard work of the GT build up where what ever you took real man hours working on actually got stronger, ie your punches your combos your blasts . You couldn't just add a ring or such and have the move. That meant you didn't have a dozen super strong characters because you actually had to take the time out to build them up. I think that should be added to list of things to include for next installment


You mean Final Bout, right?
I actually didn't spend much time in the training mode so I don't know how it really works, but I don't think it should take that long to build up a character, specially when we got so many of them. Final bout got less chars.

[True Perfection]

N True Perfection the "Massive slowdown" for one was about average with the fighting games of its time. N also it depended on the way you where playing it.

What I meant, is if a possible BT4 had 3 on 3, it would cause massive slowdown.
;)

[lucid.sublime]

I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about, I never said I hated the game, I love the game, Tenkaichi 3 is awesome, but if it had some of those things i listed then it would be even better! 2 on 2 might slow down the game, but that is what a ps3 system or xbox 360 should be able to handle, look at all those muliplayer online games that function just fine with many more people then just 2 on 2... or look at grand theft auto. I dont how any of you think i hate the game, cause i really love the game, and i thought this forum was about expressing new ideas about the game, why do you guys all hate the game if you on this forum??:eek:

[mazzaman]

What I meant, is if a possible BT4 had 3 on 3, it would cause massive slowdown.
;)

I woulda thought that given the strength of the current gen consoles (even the Wii) that 2vs2 or 3vs3 gameplay should work fine. However, I can imagine that there would be probs with this in online...

I'd like 3vs3 gameplay, cos I think it would be cool to be fighting someone and then see your buddy is getting beaten up then going to help him.

Though I'd rather they work on improving the gameplay and fixing the online.

[TalonCX]

Well I think True your right that it WOULD for SURE have massive slowdown considering that the way the game is written right now causes it to have slow down in just 1v1. Mazzaman I think he is saying that the poor scripting is causing massive slow down now. And would for sure cause the game not to run correctly if it was 2v2 or 3v3, which is one of the improvements lucid listed that would help the game. Which sadly has nothing to do with if the systems can handle it. I personally think PS3 for sure and Xbox should be able to, the Wii as much as I want it on there Im not too sure if it can. But again to due to bad coding none of the systems can play it doesnt matter how strong the system (no offense to the makers of the game). Im glad it seems like we are all arguing "HOW it Should be Done" instead of "WHETHER it Should be Done". Lucid I dont think we think you dont like the game your the one that made this thread didnt you.???


Darknat I do kinda see your point about it being tedious and with as many characters as the T series offers it might very well be problematic. But I guess Im coming from where 1) I like less characters because it doesnt seem like that have enough info for moves on many of the characters that they made making tons of clones in different shells. 2) I guess Im thinking more about online and having to battle people that have built up characters then I could really respect someone lets say if they used kid goku and really built him up and came on and kicked my ass I know they took time into that specific goku vs just having items. But I admit you do raise a good point, maybe combining the two have the old build up for the physical and the items for things such as faster charging or blast or something just a thought. Help me out if you can think of a better way of adding in what Im thinking about

[123456]

3v3 (or more) would be great, but it shouldn't have to be teams only. 6 Player free for all like a wrestling game would be sweet

[ssj3sasuke]

NO

NO


NO!
LOL:up:

[ultimateGoHaN99]

NO

NO


NO!
Lol not very nice are ya

[Flexx5]

Do u LIKE being a dumbass?

[True Perfection]

NO

NO


NO!



Don't worry about him he's been hopefully permanently banned.


On the topic again of 2 on 2 or 3 on 3, even if they get it to work seamlessly, I just think it wouldn't work in this type of game. Maybe if it had a different engine though.

[Marby]

Do u LIKE being a dumbass?
Do you like to randomly insult people? :bored:

Don't worry about him he's been hopefully permanently banned.


On the topic again of 2 on 2 or 3 on 3, even if they get it to work seamlessly, I just think it wouldn't work in this type of game. Maybe if it had a different engine though.
He is temp banned for 2,5 months.

[KaiserGodzillaX]

The 2 on 2, 3 on 3 is I think the only thing missing combat wise. Though you would have to keep switching targets... you know what? As long as I see more than 2 characters on screen im good.
Edit: 2 on 1!

[True Perfection]

He is temp banned for 2,5 months.

Why don't you guys ever permanently ban people that cause so much trouble? It would help out this site so much.

[Marby]

Why don't you guys ever permanently ban people that cause so much trouble? It would help out this site so much.
I will explain that, what's the point of perm ban someone on the spot? People change you know, just look at Lishenron for example, he was a... well... not a very good poster when he got banned but since he returned he only had 1 infraction and he is now, in my eyes, a good poster, sometimes a bit ''too sharp'' but his behavior is much better now. Perm Bans are mostly handed out to people who constantly mess up or Ad Spammers and really... being banned 2,5 months is very long.

[mazzaman]

Seems fair to me.

[dnewhomeboy45]

The 4th series should have:

I. 2 on 2 combat or 3 on 3 combat!! like in the introduction video, yeah it would take time to configure this, considering all the current advanced gameplay but it would be so worth it!! the game could also include special combat techniques that include two characters at once in an attack or defense such as throws, powerblasts, etc.
- ex: - player 1 & computer 1 vs. player 2 & computer 2
- player 1 & player 2 vs. computer 1 & computer 2
II. Online gameplay and tournaments also perhaps you could just enter a tournament to watch other people play against each other as viewing option.see VI.

III. Improved nature physics and graphics: if the game is to move up to ps3 or xbox 360, then much more real terrain and real water physics like when a character is thrown into the water or terrain damage should be more realistical and not collapse completely all of a sudden such as the buildings or the hills. Not necessarily improved character image would be needed.

IV. More interesting levels (the levels currently are great) but they could include starting out in a thick tropical rainforest or redwood tree forest, or perhaps steep mountain side level ~with perhaps a 45 degree slant running through the whole level like in vigilante 8 or maybe starting in the grand canyon.

V. More inanimate objects in levels or perhaps animate objects like people, animals, maybe characters can pick up inanimate objects such as cars and use them in attacks or defenses...

VI. More versatile replay options: not just the behind the character camera but camera angles like in sports games in multiple locations and rewind/fast foward options, could make for more fun times with friends..

please comment! please spread the ideas! maybe Atari will consider!:rolleyes:


what about dragon universe and flying in between battles with xbox 360 graphics and finding dragonballs and stuff with the dragon radar and runnin snake way and fighting king kai on king kais planet and mini games like running after bubbles and gregory

[MastonMajin]

i am expressing my distaste for this awful game and as a consumer i am also expressing my distaste for a possible sequel in the future.

if you don't want to read my posts, why do you follow me around? to troll?

Man what a turd. I just dont believe there are ppl out there who prefer DIMPS over SPIKE. One obviously did their homework, the others (DIMPS) watched worlds strongest on cartoon network n went, oh yea we can make a DBZ game. Anyone who is willing, we need to contact SPIKE n let them know of the tragedy that took place June 11th 2008, the release of the crappiest most broken junkette connected to the name DragonBall Z, Burst Limit. MAKE TENKAICHI 4 ALREADY!! OR ATLEAST ANNOUNCE IT SO WE HAVE A GLIMMER OF HOPE!!!

[exchrystalsword]

Man what a turd. I just dont believe there are ppl out there who prefer DIMPS over SPIKE. One obviously did their homework, the others (DIMPS) watched worlds strongest on cartoon network n went, oh yea we can make a DBZ game. Anyone who is willing, we need to contact SPIKE n let them know of the tragedy that took place June 11th 2008, the release of the crappiest most broken junkette connected to the name DragonBall Z, Burst Limit. MAKE TENKAICHI 4 ALREADY!! OR ATLEAST ANNOUNCE IT SO WE HAVE A GLIMMER OF HOPE!!!

pfft the only glimmer of hope we'll get is when Atari loses its license to DBZ and a company that actually cares about the game picks up the slack. :haha:

[TalonCX]

Hey Lucid maybe you should read through all the posts on this thread and update your first post and add some of the ideas mentioned here so we can have a collective thought to be passed on to atari/spike.

[MastonMajin]

Talons right, we need to combine all these thoughts into one "official" thread. I have a lot of technical ideas for BT4 regarding char stats n the like. Name the thread like, ""Official BT4 suggestions" i tried to ask Marby how to contact spike, but he doesnt know. So maybe add like "Attention Spike or to whom it concerns.."

[True Perfection]

I will explain that, what's the point of perm ban someone on the spot? People change you know, just look at Lishenron for example, he was a... well... not a very good poster when he got banned but since he returned he only had 1 infraction and he is now, in my eyes, a good poster, sometimes a bit ''too sharp'' but his behavior is much better now. Perm Bans are mostly handed out to people who constantly mess up or Ad Spammers and really... being banned 2,5 months is very long.

I guess that seems fair enough.