no svd: for sid:

[northpaw]

What is this? I have had this happen on numerous packs, most recently shyguy's Waterworld 1 set. Apparently other people have gotten the set to work, and I have other shyguy sets. Is there a way to fix this?

[FlyingDutchman7]

Do you have this with all sets?

[FlyingDutchman7]

Are all OVLs in the right map?

edit: this post belongs below northpaw's.

[northpaw]

No, just ATH's catwalk, shyguy's waterworld, and now Vodhin's cafe set. Which is weird because I have other things by shyguy and vodhin that don't have this problem.

[northpaw]

How do I determine which is the "right map"?... :/

[RCT3robin]

this might helpThe thing to remember is that the game engine is designed so it follows a specific path to access each scenery file. If that path is altered - by placing the file in the wrong spot or extra files being created - the game is unable to access the file.

The most common error is where an extra folder holding the CS files is created. The way to check for this is to navigate to where Scenery folders are stored. Most people will know how to access this, but I'll lay out the steps for those who may not be sure:

If you are running XP, you probably have an icon on your desktop called "MyComputer", double-click that icon to open.

Most people have the game installed on it's default position, so find where it lists your hard drives and find "(C: )", double-click on that entry to open.

Now you need to find a folder named "Program Files", again double-click to open.

Among the individual folders should be one labeled "Atari", go ahead and double-click to open.

Inside you'll find the folder for "RollerCoaster Tycoon 3", open that.

Inside are lot's of files and folders required in the game, scroll down and find the one labeled "Style", double-click to open it.

Customs Scenery goes in the folder entitled "Themed", yep, go ahead and open that one too.

Here you will see all the different scenery folders - in-game and custom. This is where you place your custom scenery folders. Find the folder for the set you are having problems with and open it.

This is the important part, as soon as you open that folder you will see one or more files or folders that are the actual individual object files PLUS there should be two OVL files...one named Style.common and the other Style.unique.

Those two OVL files MUST be there for your CS to function properly. That's where the path the game follows to access them says they must be. If they aren't, then usually an extra folder has been created during the zip process.

If the two OVL files are missing, is there instead just a folder with the name of the scenery set on it present?

I thought so. Go ahead and open that folder. Chances are when you open it you'll find those two missing OVL files plus the actual scenery files/folders.

What's this mean? Well, the path the game is looking for when you see those two OVL files is C:\Program Files\Atari\RollerCoaster Tycoon 3\Style\Themed\Set (you can see the path up at the top of your screen).

The path if there's an extra folder will show C:\Program Files\Atari\RollerCoaster Tycoon 3\Style\Themed\Set\Set. Note how that folder at the end appears twice? We need to get rid of that extra layer. It's simple to do...

Find the folder that holds the two OVL files (along with the actual object files/folders that were there with them.) and drag that entire folder to your desktop.

Now in Style\Themed you should have a folder with the name of the set that is empty. Delete that extra folder.

Now you can drag the correct folder (the one with the two OVL files) from your desktop back into Style\Themed. That should make the path correct for the game to access the objects and the set should now work.

How does an extra layer get formed by mistake? Well, there's several ways but one way to make sure it doesn't occur is to always unzip new CS set's to your desktop FIRST, and then find the correct folder (with the two OVL files) and drag it to your Style\Themed folder yourself. If the CS set comes with an .exe file, I always change the destination to have it go to my desktop as well.

[northpaw]

I have the two OVL files (style.common and style.unique) in both the cafe and waterworld sets.

let me try something really quick....

[FlyingDutchman7]

Look in C:\RollerCoaster Tycoon 3\Style\Themed\shy-Water World Set\shy-Water World Set. Does this map have all 256 OVLs?

If it doesn't download it again.

[northpaw]

Well here's something. The two OVLs were in the second folder, so I moved them to the first one and before, the svd" for sid: thing said "wwbar-stool" or something like that. So after te movement, I reopened it ad now it says "wwbench" or something. So the error has changed.

edit: I tried the same thing with the cafe set, just a new error. I will try re-downloading.

sigh, same problem. I guess I just can't get them to work. Maybe it's because I'm on a Mac? But Waterworld set 2 works fine...

[wabigbear]

Well here's something. The two OVLs were in the second folder, so I moved them to the first one and before, the svd" for sid: thing said "wwbar-stool" or something like that. So after te movement, I reopened it ad now it says "wwbench" or something. So the error has changed.

You just made a fatal error. You don't move just those two ovl files to where ever you want, they are located in a specific place in a specific folder and must remain that way when installed. That's how the game engine finds them, it follows a pathway that's encoded. If the object file isn't there at the end of the path, you get an error.

You found a folder, and inside of it was a folder that had two OVL's inside, right?

Go back up and re-read what Robin posted. That tells you that the folder that has those two OVL's is the correct folder to install for the CS. |Yes, there's an extra folder that held the folder you want. You have to remove that extra folder. The instructions are in that post Robin made.


edit: I tried the same thing with the cafe set, just a new error. I will try re-downloading.

sigh, same problem. I guess I just can't get them to work. Maybe it's because I'm on a Mac? But Waterworld set 2 works fine...

Again, don't move files around. Before installing a cs set into Style/Themed, look for the folder that has those two OVL files. Move ONLY that folder (and everything inside of it besides the two OVL's) into Style/Themed. Any other folders should NOT be installed. Most set's will work on Mac as long as they don't require something found only in Wild.

[northpaw]

There is only one folder inside the whole thing. I open the shyguy Waterworld folder, and there is a readme and the actual folder. So should I move JUST the inner folder, not the whole thing?

[SpiltInk]

There is only one folder inside the whole thing. I open the shyguy Waterworld folder, and there is a readme and the actual folder. So should I move JUST the inner folder, not the whole thing?

Yes, just the inner folder. Before moving it make sure it has the style.common.ovl and style.unique.ovl inside the inner folder.

[wabigbear]

Yes, just the inner folder. Before moving it make sure it has the style.common.ovl and style.unique.ovl inside the inner folder.

SpiltInk is exactly right. Pretty much in any file found in Style\Themed, as soon as you click to open you will find those two OVL files. That's the place the game engine looks for them at.

I know it can be confusing and frustrating, and it's hard to explain too, but once you get this figured out you'll do fine and installing most CS set's will be a breeze.

[northpaw]

Allright, thank you all, it has worked! :)

[wabigbear]

Yay! Great to hear. Next time it will be easier.