[WIP] Space Mountain X--> Unlike any other Space Mountain! [Archive]

scaremenga

01-21-2009, 11:07 PM

Hey everyone. With inspiration from WDITrent's Space Mountain Millenium, I have decided to make Space Mountain X. It will be a full Space Mountain ride with strobe tunnels, a cannon, a station, custom SOBAT, and more. I will also release the resulting CS from this project.

SMX- Space Mountain X
SMXC- Space Mountain X Crew

Current SMXC's:
-Scaremenga (leader)
-Mtxilay13 (exporter)
-WDITrent (audio)
-krakatoacoo (texturer)
-djlegolas (billboards)

***If you're interested in joining SMXC please send me a private message. Current positions we need are: MODELER, TEXTURE-MAKER, ANIMATER, and PR***

I hope to make this an amazing project, but through the cooperation and support of fellow rct3 members.

-scaremenga

***PLEASE NOTE. THIS SPACE MOUNTAIN IS BASED ONLY ON THE BARE MINIMUMS OF EXISTING SPACE MOUNTAIN RIDES. EVERYTHING WILL BE MADE AND DESIGNED FROM THE GROUND UP***

gas_atom

01-22-2009, 12:04 PM

Sweet. I love Space Mountain, I can't wait for this one to come out, hope you finish it.

stu-2693

01-22-2009, 12:31 PM

RCT3robin

01-22-2009, 12:49 PM

^:haha:

I don't know tbh,If you really can make scenery and a track from space mountain other then others.Because at the end ,Basicly its all the same idea's.

Krakatoa_Coo

01-22-2009, 03:58 PM

ok, lets see, what is that last slot open? I might join for one of those slots.

azanderz

01-22-2009, 04:02 PM

TBH...
space mountain is space mountain... It cannot be unlike any other becouse.. Well... It wouldnt be space mountain then would it :haha:

What makes me laugh is that there are only 4 or 5 space mountain rides in the whole world, yet I have lost count of how many I have seen on this forum :haha:

I agree with you ;) its the space mountain ride theme set invasion :alien::alien::alien::alien::alien::alien: :bulb:

MeJayBe

01-22-2009, 05:29 PM

Krakatoa_Coo

01-22-2009, 06:58 PM

what does the texture maker do?
what does the modeler do?
what does the last slot do?
Srry but i sound like i do not know these things lol

Viscosity086

01-22-2009, 08:51 PM

This is no pun intended on anyone, but everybody whines and moans about "oh well theres only like 10 space mountian sets" or well thats the same as someone elses.. BUT Ive only been on here a few weeks and Im tired of it..Get over it, and let people do what they are going to do, Just because they make the same set, dosent mean its the same, we all use different styles,textures. Let people be creative without shooting them down befor its thought of. Other wise we wouldnt have half the CS we have, and its all good..And don't get me started on the "Quality Control" BS...
Btw..Hope you make the Space Mountian..

scaremenga

01-23-2009, 01:05 AM

First of all, welcome to the forums. Always inspired by hopeful newcommers to see what potential they have for new CS.

Though you have an interesting idea, you really shouldn't start a thread like this without posting SOME kind of pics. I know you're just in the planning stages, but even concept drawings would be helpful to give the community a better idea of your vision.

~JayBe

Here's some pictures of the dome...

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c55/deathfearsnone/rct3/zvoh3n.jpg%5B/IMG%5Dhttp://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c55/deathfearsnone/rct3/zvoh3n.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c55/deathfearsnone/rct3/2elrvw2.jpg

and here's a video of the dome...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXaUzTJQ8qU

*the pictures are pre-texture pics*

deathfearsnone

01-23-2009, 01:09 AM

first of everyone mattat crashes alot of computers just like the others so i am glad and hoping this one won't crash mine

looks great dude

scaremenga

01-23-2009, 01:15 AM

Viscosity086

01-23-2009, 01:18 AM

one thing, i just saw you post the pics, you need to resize them, to keep horozontial scrolling out.. when you posted the url of the pic, where it says you need to put "shot" inplace of IMG

scaremenga

01-23-2009, 01:18 AM

TBH...
space mountain is space mountain... It cannot be unlike any other becouse.. Well... It wouldnt be space mountain then would it :haha:

What makes me laugh is that there are only 4 or 5 space mountain rides in the whole world, yet I have lost count of how many I have seen on this forum :haha:

Actually, it can be like no other... because it has it's own CS. It's not going to have a track-layout based on other SM's... the only thing that makes it "Space Mountain" is the name. Sure, small things like the cannon and the concept of going into space are copied, but all else is unique.

MeJayBe

01-23-2009, 01:55 AM

Ok, now that's a great start. I really like the animated stars on the interior. Looking forward to more.

azanderz

01-23-2009, 11:12 AM

The dome looks quite high on faces, what is the count ?
other than that it looks good but the same as the other space mountains so far :)

Krakatoa_Coo

01-23-2009, 03:51 PM

what is that LAST SLOT OPEN FOR THE CREW?

I might be the texture maker. So I will be that until further notice, right?

Srry for double post.

Rct3Luke

01-23-2009, 04:26 PM

^Why did you post another post directly after another? To many times this has been said, use the edit button!
Good to see you on atari forums scaremenga, im Sof2luke from youtube btw :D

scaremenga

01-23-2009, 07:26 PM

The dome looks quite high on faces, what is the count ?
other than that it looks good but the same as the other space mountains so far :)

Hmm.. The dome is about 2600 faces. It's alteadybeen exported into rct3 and itruns without lag, also the coloring is what setsit apart from other space mountains. Unlike the others (except Paris) it will have some touches of gray

Krakatoa_Coo

01-23-2009, 07:30 PM

can i join as a texture maker?

ryguy222

01-24-2009, 12:52 AM

Thats a good deal of faces, I think my 9600 gso can handle it though!

So you mentioned something about a cannon, and your dome looks like a dome from Disneyland or Disneyworld. Where is this cannon going?

The dome looks great btw!

Vodhin

01-24-2009, 01:24 AM

Hmm.. The dome is about 2600 faces. It's alteadybeen exported into rct3 and itruns without lag, also the coloring is what setsit apart from other space mountains. Unlike the others (except Paris) it will have some touches of gray

Shape the land, put in lots of rides (half of all generic thrill rides and gentile rides should do) and build a couple of coasters, maybe a water ride or two. Get at least 700 peeps running around, then add lots of trees (of many types, not just one or two) and other scenery: walls, lamps, benches... etc. Use different textures on the ground, make lakes and add water rides (be sure you open all your rides, too). Then add janitors and handimen and entertainers. Add shops, restrooms, atms, vista points, and if you really want to do an actual test, add a pool or two. Now check for lag... Simply importing into an empty park means little...

Now, I'm only trying to help and here is a link to get some ideas: http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=666134

Building a fantastic set of scenery wont do many any good unless it is optimized for a wide variety of players out there. Don't be lazy, start using multiple-model OVLs with optimized LODs...

Nethero

01-24-2009, 05:10 PM

Even though it's 'unlike' any other Space Mountain, I can already see how it looks like every other Space Mountain I've seen. Same dome shape, same top hat, same ridges across the dome, same spikes in random places, same color, etc. I think the word you are looking for is "unique" not unlike ;)

As for faces.......wow! What you could do is break the top hat off of the mid part of the dome so that it isn't just one giant monster of lag. I do see you have two faces in places where it should only have one face all over the dome. Such as the tops of those ridges.

scaremenga

01-25-2009, 04:48 PM

Here is a picture of the front facade of Space Mountain X. That square thing is the general placement of the cannon...but it is not the cannon!

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv130/scaremenga/withcannoncon1.jpg

GoldenRidge

01-25-2009, 05:04 PM

So, are you just making the whole thing out of one Scenery or something? :S

Viscosity086

01-25-2009, 05:05 PM

looks good except the pic is way big- Could defiently lower the faces on that thing..how many is it? 1000+?
corner needs less segments?

scaremenga

01-25-2009, 06:34 PM

looks good except the pic is way big- Could defiently lower the faces on that thing..how many is it? 1000+?
corner needs less segments?

I'll shrink the pic later. The face count is about 2600..it's high but I think the average computer can handle it. If it can't I'll make two sets or something, one for lowe-end CPU's and one for high-end.

Krakatoa_Coo

01-25-2009, 06:35 PM

can you edit the first thread so that I am a texturemaker in the crew?

scaremenga

01-25-2009, 06:37 PM

So, are you just making the whole thing out of one Scenery or something? :S

No, the cs is several different pieces like gadget's. For the sake of making the pieces to scale and fitting into each other I place them all in one file, multiple backups of course.

Krakatoa_Coo

01-25-2009, 06:42 PM

can you edit the first thread so that I am a texturemaker in the crew?

azanderz

01-25-2009, 06:45 PM

scaremenga

01-26-2009, 12:58 AM

can you edit the first thread so that I am a texturemaker in the crew?
I did

Vodhin

01-26-2009, 01:14 AM

... The face count is about 2600..it's high but I think the average computer can handle it. If it can't I'll make two sets or something, one for lowe-end CPU's and one for high-end.

You can add the lower detail models into one OVL, setting each one to a higher draw distance (LOD in the create OVL window)and RCT3 will replace the high detail model with the successive lower ones as the player moves away, saving valuable resourses for closer objects (even on high end computers). It will also allow RCt3 to start with the correct detail level based on the player's game settings. You won't have to make multiple releases of the same set with explanations about which one is for what computers. A much better way to make CS for the community....

DjLegoLas

01-26-2009, 09:19 AM

very good!!! can you make animated lights like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKdD9wz4lz0 ???

Krakatoa_Coo

01-26-2009, 04:54 PM

i do not think he can but it was a great idea

DjLegoLas

01-26-2009, 04:55 PM

i do not think he can but it was a great idea

thanks :D

scaremenga

01-26-2009, 06:53 PM

thanks :D

I might be able to!! I'll look around. Putting that on will make smx's dome more unteresting

Krakatoa_Coo

01-26-2009, 06:55 PM

thats cool, now it will be different than any other space mountain, IN RCT3 lol

scaremenga

01-27-2009, 12:14 AM

scaremenga your buildings looks good though there is 100's of faces that could be removed without damaging the model at all. like in your space mountain dome i see alot of faces wich are not nessesary :)

btw. resize the image :)

Those black lines on the dome are not faces... They're just the texture that I used. The face count on the dome is more like 26... Sorry I should have explained in that post. :bulb:

here are some drafts of some various pieces of space mountain x architecture. if you have any questions regarding what I'm trying to illustrate please post in the forums. Sorry the pictures are so small, I have a horrible reputation for making the pictures too large.

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv130/scaremenga/100_1090.jpg

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv130/scaremenga/100_1092.jpg

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv130/scaremenga/100_1095.jpg

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv130/scaremenga/100_1096.jpg

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv130/scaremenga/100_1098.jpg

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv130/scaremenga/100_1099.jpg

Vodhin

01-27-2009, 01:34 AM

Those black lines on the dome are not faces... They're just the texture that I used. The face count on the dome is more like 26... Sorry I should have explained in that post. :bulb:

No.. your dome is not 26 faces... and I remember reading that the black lines that show up in Sketchup indicate that there is an internal face that you can't see- a sandwitch of some sort...

JadedFan235

01-27-2009, 07:12 AM

it looks good, but i dont know about what there saying, maybe not as good as it could be

Viscosity086

01-27-2009, 09:31 AM

Its definitely not as good as it could be, thats going to be one huge chunk of lag.. I hate to say that, but it looks that way :(

gas_atom

01-27-2009, 02:15 PM

I think I understand the plans, I think it´s like space mountain Anaheim and space mountain paris in one coaster combined, I´m really looking for this one, keep up the good work.

scaremenga

01-27-2009, 03:46 PM

No.. your dome is not 26 faces... and I remember reading that the black lines that show up in Sketchup indicate that there is an internal face that you can't see- a sandwitch of some sort...

Sorry if this sounds rude. But I know what I am doing. The texture I made has those black lines. I'll post the texture later today to prove my point.

Krakatoa_Coo

01-27-2009, 04:48 PM

cool illustrations, even though I am the texturemaker, I still do not know much about this ride.
Oh and did you send me the pic scaremenga?

DjLegoLas

01-27-2009, 04:52 PM

cool illustrations, even though I am the texturemaker, I still do not know much about this ride.
Oh and did you send me the pic scaremenga?

how make you domes with sketchup?:weird:

Krakatoa_Coo

01-27-2009, 04:53 PM

how make you domes with sketchup?:weird:

Huh? do you make How does Scaremenga make domes with sketchup? Well, I don't know much for how becuz i am not that familiar with the tools, only the basics.

DjLegoLas

01-27-2009, 04:55 PM

Hey everyone. With inspiration from WDITrent's Space Mountain Millenium, I have decided to make Space Mountain X. It will be a full Space Mountain ride with strobe tunnels, a cannon, a station, custom SOBAT, and more. I will also release the resulting CS from this project.

SMX- Space Mountain X
SMXC- Space Mountain X Crew

Current SMXC's:
-Scaremenga (leader)
-Mtxilay13 (exporter)
-WDITrent (audio)
-krakatoacoo (texturer)
-djlegolas (billboards)
***If you're interested in joining SMXC please send me a private message. Current positions we need are: MODELER, TEXTURE-MAKER, ANIMATER, and PR***

I hope to make this an amazing project, but through the cooperation and support of fellow rct3 members.

-scaremenga

***PLEASE NOTE. THIS SPACE MOUNTAIN IS BASED ONLY ON THE BARE MINIMUMS OF EXISTING SPACE MOUNTAIN RIDES. EVERYTHING WILL BE MADE AND DESIGNED FROM THE GROUND UP***

what´s the music of the ride?

Krakatoa_Coo

01-30-2009, 08:59 PM

go to scaremenga's channel and look at some of the SMX VIDS

DjLegoLas

01-30-2009, 09:51 PM

go to scaremenga's channel and look at some of the SMX VIDS

ok :up:

scaremenga

01-31-2009, 03:26 PM

Hey guys. Sorry for the small amount of updates. I've exported the dome and it works fine. You can download it, and test it (tell me if there's anything wrong) off of my website:

http://scaremengamediaalliance.webs.com/index.htm

There's also a link the ride's SOBAT on there.

I also have some trailer videos and logo's on my youtube channel:

youtube.com/scaremenga (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/youtube.com/scaremenga)

In case you're wondering, Scaremenga Media Alliance is an rct3 group on youtube with 30 members.

mtxilay13

01-31-2009, 04:42 PM

WOW!!!There are pics of my dome in this thread!!! I didn't know that there is a SMX thread in Atari forums!

TPM INC

01-31-2009, 04:49 PM

No.. your dome is not 26 faces... and I remember reading that the black lines that show up in Sketchup indicate that there is an internal face that you can't see- a sandwitch of some sort...

Thick black lines are lines that are NOT connected to a edge or endpoint.

biogal

02-01-2009, 01:06 AM

I'll shrink the pic later.

You didn't shrink it, so I put in shot tags. Please make sure your pictures are no larger than 800 x 600. Also, please do not double post. Thank you.

Krakatoa_Coo

02-01-2009, 04:21 PM

i cant wait till this ride is finished.

DjLegoLas

02-01-2009, 04:50 PM

i cant wait till this ride is finished.

me too!!

Krakatoa_Coo

02-01-2009, 06:05 PM

lol, i hope the next update is coming!

gas_atom

02-04-2009, 02:36 AM

I've heard the music of the space mountain X which you have it to download at your site and I liked better the anaheim music, I just wish for you to change the music to anaheim (and add those sound effects like the music you edited for the ride) because I don't like the earth to the moon music (If you can or want, either way).

Greatdrift

02-08-2009, 04:41 PM

This is going to be great!!!!!! :)

scaremenga

02-26-2009, 05:04 PM

It's been awhile since I last updated! I've been drawing out the CS plans for this ride, and they look great! I've managed to begin modeling the exterior parts of Space Mountain X.

Here are some pictures of the Outer Tunnels, these will have varying animated textures within, and are "similar" to those on Space Mountain Paris.

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv130/scaremenga/OutsideTunnel1P1.jpg

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv130/scaremenga/OutsideTunnel2P1.jpg

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv130/scaremenga/OutsideTunnel3P1.jpg

DiD0

02-26-2009, 05:27 PM

jeep!! your live!! :D

Krakatoa_Coo

02-26-2009, 06:20 PM

looking good. this thread was dead for a while until he updated

scaremenga

02-26-2009, 07:03 PM

looking good. this thread was dead for a while until he updated

Define dead. I don't think dead equals getting 1500 views in half a month LOL. But do you have any ideas how I can bring it back to life?

Krakatoa_Coo

02-26-2009, 07:37 PM

hmmmm...... i say, put updates in a constant rate if you can, otherwise you might end up like Gadget and the updates dont come until like the next 2 weeks which no one wants

scaremenga

02-27-2009, 01:07 PM

I've textured the first piece of the Outer Tunnel, I like the texture to be plain, but what do you think?

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv130/scaremenga/TexturedOuterTunnel1.jpg

Krakatoa_Coo

02-27-2009, 04:09 PM

hmmm...., is this tunnel for the ride, you said you might animate the inside, are you?

Greatdrift

02-27-2009, 04:23 PM

^^ That is intense!!!!

scaremenga

02-27-2009, 04:28 PM

hmmm...., is this tunnel for the ride, you said you might animate the inside, are you?

Not that ^ tunnel, that's just going to be the black tunnel..like in Space Mountain Paris, however after entering that ^ tunnel, riders will drop down into animated tunnels similar to the 1977 and 2005 versions of Space Mountain Anaheim :D