View Full Version : Gogetta vs Vegitto
reconhell
08-27-2009, 01:39 PM
How come some dbz noobs keep saying this charachter is stronger than this charachter...?
Now let me take a look from the show.
Vegitto--- > Buu arc
Gogetta ----> GT final arc or dbz movie buu arc
FUSION IS FUSION. Only the timelimit and looks are different. The potential is exactly the same.
Also They couldn't become gogetta when they were vegitto and they couldn't become vegito when they were gogetta.
So then it comes down to which fusion is further along the show (meaning more training to goku/vegeta.)
And furthermore nothing has been proven in the show.
mortalcage
08-27-2009, 01:49 PM
Because the elder kai guy said Potara fusion is BETTER than normal fusion. And that the rivalry between the two "fusionees" makes the Potara fusion even stronger
Supa_Saya_Jin
08-27-2009, 01:54 PM
How come some dbz noobs keep saying this charachter is stronger than this charachter...?
Now let me take a look from the show.
Vegitto--- > Buu arc
Gogetta ----> GT final arc or dbz movie buu arc
FUSION IS FUSION. Only the timelimit and looks are different. The potential is exactly the same.
Also They couldn't become gogetta when they were vegitto and they couldn't become vegito when they were gogetta.
So then it comes down to which fusion is further along the show (meaning more training to goku/vegeta.)
And furthermore nothing has been proven in the show. You're just making stuff up man lol...in the manga/anime Elder Kai said a patora fusion would create a superior fighter than a fusion of the dance, CLOSE THREAD.:cool:
leprikangt
08-27-2009, 02:00 PM
Vegitto has been proven to be the strongest in the whole series. [Yes thats Z]
ssj_gohan
08-27-2009, 03:06 PM
ssj vegito is close in power to ssj4 gogeta, keep in mind buu had 4 strong warriors absorbed
Supa_Saya_Jin
08-27-2009, 03:10 PM
ssj vegito is close in power to ssj4 gogeta, keep in mind buu had 4 strong warriors absorbed What you posted is kinda irrelevant...SSJ4 Gogeta is from another series that doesn't really abide by the power levels listed at Dragonpedia. It makes more sense to compare Vegitto to Super Gogeta.:up:
ssjhax
08-27-2009, 03:16 PM
How come some dbz noobs keep saying this charachter is stronger than this charachter...?
Now let me take a look from the show.
Vegitto--- > Buu arc
Gogetta ----> GT final arc or dbz movie buu arc
FUSION IS FUSION. Only the timelimit and looks are different. The potential is exactly the same.
Also They couldn't become gogetta when they were vegitto and they couldn't become vegito when they were gogetta.
So then it comes down to which fusion is further along the show (meaning more training to goku/vegeta.)
And furthermore nothing has been proven in the show.
IRONY
Supa_Saya_Jin
08-27-2009, 03:22 PM
IRONY So true lol...:haha:
reconhell
08-27-2009, 03:48 PM
Because the elder kai guy said Potara fusion is BETTER than normal fusion. And that the rivalry between the two "fusionees" makes the Potara fusion even stronger
Hmm better fusion, CUZ OF THE TIMELIMIT. The fusion itself is still fusion.. .
bardack85
08-27-2009, 03:56 PM
DBZCC. How comes that in this period so many ABSURD thread pop out in this section of the forum? I don't care about this stuff! it's the bt3/raging blast forum! OUT OF HERE, discuss your incredible points anywhere. Btw Vegetto is stronger than gogeta it was said in the anime, the potaras make the difference, now off!
ssjhax
08-27-2009, 04:00 PM
Hmm better fusion, CUZ OF THE TIMELIMIT. The fusion itself is still fusion.. .
No, pay attention to the series.
A Buu who completely kicked A ssj3's ass was beat by Gohan. Then gohan got absorbed and Super buu got dominated by Vegito without Vegito even trying. Vegito went SSJ just to have a bit more fun.
Janemba was a bit stronger than a SSJ3, and was beaten easily by SSJ Gogeta. Which means Gogeta had to go ssj, to beat something a mere stronger than SSJ3. While Vegito could've easily beaten someone stronger than a SSJ3 after absorbing ssj3 gotenks and gohan.
Therefore
Vegito>Gogeta.
Besides if Gogeta=Vegito, goku and vegeta wouldn't of fused together permanently. They only did cause that was the only way to beat buu at the time. obviously the fusion dance wouldn't of succeeded.
Ryuku
08-27-2009, 04:05 PM
No, pay attention to the series.
A Buu who completely kicked A ssj3's ass was beat by Gohan. Then gohan got absorbed and Super buu got dominated by Vegito without Vegito even trying. Vegito went SSJ just to have a bit more fun.
Janemba was a bit stronger than a SSJ3, and was beaten easily by SSJ Gogeta. Which means Gogeta had to go ssj, to beat something a mere stronger than SSJ3. While Vegito could've easily beaten someone stronger than a SSJ3 after absorbing ssj3 gotenks and gohan.
Therefore
Vegito>Gogeta.
Besides if Gogeta=Vegito, goku and vegeta wouldn't of fused together permanently. They only did cause that was the only way to beat buu at the time. obviously the fusion dance wouldn't of succeeded.
Agreed, and furthermore it was stated by the elder supreme kai that the potara are more effective than the dance.
bardack85
08-27-2009, 04:10 PM
No, pay attention to the series.
A Buu who completely kicked A ssj3's ass was beat by Gohan. Then gohan got absorbed and Super buu got dominated by Vegito without Vegito even trying. Vegito went SSJ just to have a bit more fun.
Janemba was a bit stronger than a SSJ3, and was beaten easily by SSJ Gogeta. Which means Gogeta had to go ssj, to beat something a mere stronger than SSJ3. While Vegito could've easily beaten someone stronger than a SSJ3 after absorbing ssj3 gotenks and gohan.
Therefore
Vegito>Gogeta.
Besides if Gogeta=Vegito, goku and vegeta wouldn't of fused together permanently. They only did cause that was the only way to beat buu at the time. obviously the fusion dance wouldn't of succeeded.
if you mean gotenks ssj3, then you should realize that he JOKED with buu, and he almost killed buu more than once....The problem was that they were kid so they got over-excited by that power and they played with the opponent till the end. BUT, when they realized that it was time to finish that, the fusion ended. I still remember that he was going to disintegrate buu once and for all, seriously, but PUF, fusion ended.
Supa_Saya_Jin
08-27-2009, 04:12 PM
if you mean gotenks ssj3, then you should realize that he JOKED with buu, and he almost killed buu more than once....The problem was that they were kid so they got over-excited by that power and they played with the opponent till the end. BUT, when they realized that it was time to finish that, the fusion ended. I still remember that he was going to disintegrate buu once and for all, seriously, but PUF, fusion ended. Correct.:up:
Sanity's_Theif
08-27-2009, 04:24 PM
I've read the japanese manga, and honestly, there is no reference that the potara creates a stronger fused warrior at all, it's just something fans like to dream about.
The fact is that the only reason the old kai suggested the potara was because Buu would not sit around for Goku and Gohan to practice the fusion dance, he mentioned nothing of it having a larger power output
And honestly, you're putting the same 2 people together, you'd have to be pretty dumb to think one would randomly be stronger than the other
Therefore in reality:
Gogeta=Vegito
Supa_Saya_Jin
08-27-2009, 04:28 PM
I've read the japanese manga, and honestly, there is no reference that the potara creates a stronger fused warrior at all, it's just something fans like to dream about.
The fact is that the only reason the old kai suggested the potara was because Buu would not sit around for Goku and Gohan to practice the fusion dance, he mentioned nothing of it having a larger power output
And honestly, you're putting the same 2 people together, you'd have to be pretty dumb to think one would randomly be stronger than the other
Therefore in reality:
Gogeta=Vegito IT IS WRITTEN IN INK AND IS ALSO ON FILM that Supreme Kai said the patora fusion is stronger.
Sanity's_Theif
08-27-2009, 04:30 PM
IT IS WRITTEN IN INK AND IS ALSO ON FILM that Supreme Kai said the patora fusion is stronger.
I'm talking JP manga here, not some stupid scanlation, and not the anime, the original true source, AT's handwriting, and I tell you, it does not exist:up:
Supa_Saya_Jin
08-27-2009, 04:32 PM
I'm talking JP manga here, not some stupid scanlation, and not the anime, the original true source, AT's handwriting, and I tell you, it does not exist:up: Akira Toriyama writes for the anime as well as co-signs the english manga.:bored:
ssj_gohan
08-27-2009, 04:36 PM
No, pay attention to the series.
A Buu who completely kicked A ssj3's ass was beat by Gohan. Then gohan got absorbed and Super buu got dominated by Vegito without Vegito even trying. Vegito went SSJ just to have a bit more fun.
Janemba was a bit stronger than a SSJ3, and was beaten easily by SSJ Gogeta. Which means Gogeta had to go ssj, to beat something a mere stronger than SSJ3. While Vegito could've easily beaten someone stronger than a SSJ3 after absorbing ssj3 gotenks and gohan.
Therefore
Vegito>Gogeta.
Besides if Gogeta=Vegito, goku and vegeta wouldn't of fused together permanently. They only did cause that was the only way to beat buu at the time. obviously the fusion dance wouldn't of succeeded.
i couldnt have worded this more perfectly, agreed
Sanity's_Theif
08-27-2009, 04:39 PM
Akira Toriyama writes for the anime as well as co-signs the english manga.:bored:
AT put out ideas for filler in the anime, and the english manga has many translation errors as does the anime, they are not good sources:up:
AT's handwritten words>translation errors my friend
i couldnt have worded this more perfectly, agreed
You're agreeing with something that has a couple of major flaws
Dreiko
08-27-2009, 04:56 PM
Potara fusion is inherently stronger than dance fusion, of course SSJ4 gogeta is stronger than ssj1 vegeto but if both were of the same SSJ level (for example, janenba movie gogeta vs super vegeto) Gogeta would never win.
shadowreaper
08-27-2009, 04:57 PM
AT put out ideas for filler in the anime, and the english manga has many translation errors as does the anime, they are not good sources:up:
AT's handwritten words>translation errors my friend
I've read the japanese manga, and honestly, there is no reference that the potara creates a stronger fused warrior at all, it's just something fans like to dream about.
The fact is that the only reason the old kai suggested the potara was because Buu would not sit around for Goku and Gohan to practice the fusion dance, he mentioned nothing of it having a larger power output
And honestly, you're putting the same 2 people together, you'd have to be pretty dumb to think one would randomly be stronger than the other
Therefore in reality:
Gogeta=Vegito
QFT
Oh man seriously you guys stop remaining ignorant to this topic. What Sanity's Thief is explaining is completely true. Both the english manga and anime have many translation errors. Although the english manga never states that vegitto is stronger than gogeta. As well he doesn't state it in the anime because of the simple fact that Gogeta never existed in Akira Toriyama's history of Dragonball Z, it was merely a fan dream. I keep trying to upload the scans of the manga but it is not going so well. For the members who want to really find out just google: Dragonball Z manga online and you'll get every questioned answered.
Before I forget Elder Kai's definition of the Potara Rings being so much better is because it has no weakness like the fusion dance does. The weaknesses being the Fusion Dance that both warriors have to learn and execute perfectly just to be one and the other weakness being the time limit where the Fusion Dance allows both warriors to be fused for half an hour or less depending on their power. Now for the Potara Fusion the fusion is instantly, meaning that as soon as both warriors put on their earrings on their respective ears they instantly become one and the other is this fusion is permanent. They will never be two again!!!
Trust though I've been a Gogeta fan and preferred him better than Vegetto but truth be told I had to admit that they are both perfectly the same in terms of strength and speed. As well as power. The only difference is that Gogeta does not have time in his side meaning that in a supposed match between both of them, if the fight goes beyond half an hour Vegetto would end up winning.
Last but not least remember this Gogeta is a filler character just like Broly, Turles and all those other peeps. They could of existed but Akira Toriyama never mentioned them in his original story...:up: Let's hope you all understand...
Marby
08-27-2009, 04:59 PM
DBZCC. How comes that in this period so many ABSURD thread pop out in this section of the forum? I don't care about this stuff! it's the bt3/raging blast forum! OUT OF HERE, discuss your incredible points anywhere. Btw Vegetto is stronger than gogeta it was said in the anime, the potaras make the difference, now off!
I wouldn't exactly put it like that but bardack is right. Just like [rl=http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=685386&page=2]this[/url] thread, this also has been discussed before and belongs in the DBZ CC. You can repost it there if you want. Closing.
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