Something kind of cool I noticed in the demo.

[Desolus]

So this probably isn't a big deal to some but i found it interesting, when playing as Goku base vs piccolo he says that whole goosebumps thing when he fights but pick Goku Super saiyan and he says the same thing but he says it in a lot more serious tone...I thought it was kind of cool they added that kind of effect in.

[Rockalot]

Really? I'm yet to try it - I enjoy transforming too much. Thanks for the heads up. Those little details really do make the game go from good to great methinks.

[SnakeCharmer]

Well now that most of us have been playing the demo for about 2 weeks we know and its nice but a thread wasn't really needed just to state this.

[Rockalot]

True, so then why not let it go somewhere? Why not mention the other little details you like in the game? Or perhaps what you'd like to see in the next game etc?

[knook]

So this probably isn't a big deal to some but i found it interesting, when playing as Goku base vs piccolo he says that whole goosebumps thing when he fights but pick Goku Super saiyan and he says the same thing but he says it in a lot more serious tone...I thought it was kind of cool they added that kind of effect in.

Wow, thanks for this, I'm gunna have to try it out (don't listen to anyone else, it's worth a thread ;))

[ruben1234]

Nothing special. Thanks anyway.

[Weatherby]

I really hate goku and piccolo's lines before they fight, it's so corny. Can they please give lines not designed for a 10 year old to like? And when Goku sounds more "serious" it just sounds fake to me, that's not him.

Like when base goku and piccolo fight maybe it should be something they would have said to each other when they fought in the tournament and they were enemies back then. Then when it's ss goku he can say something like how it's a sparring match that they would have had while training for the androids to show up in 3 years.

...maybe its just me but I'd like that stuff a lot better. I don't really like Radditz lines either, he should be more cocky and say something more evil. Not generic stuff. I want to have the tone set and be pumped before I start a fight you know?

[maffayoo]

great effect to add in

but going from base to ssj is more then starting so im yet to see this :P

also when you go down to red health and they hit you with a special your clothes rip off that is awesomeness methinks

[Desolus]

Nothing special. Thanks anyway.

Didn't say it was special, but your welcome.

[Dreiko]

There's many such lines, it actually sounds lame in english...makes me dislike dbz lol. (goku would never ever ever say "yikes!")

[RicetheZilla]

There's many such lines, it actually sounds lame in english...makes me dislike dbz lol. (goku would never ever ever say "yikes!")
But.. he does? So, yeah..

[Dreiko]

Not in the real version, only in the dub. So...i'll listen to the original....yeah...

[RicetheZilla]

Not in the real version, only in the dub. So...i'll listen to the original....yeah...
Dude, if Goku says "Yikes" in the official anime/manga/game, he's says ****ing "Yikes".
It doesn't matter what version it is.

[Dreiko]

Nah, he doesn't in the japanese version, only in the mistranslated Americanized dubs.

[RicetheZilla]

Nah, he doesn't in the japanese version, only in the mistranslated Americanized dubs.
Dude, "Yikes" is probably non-existant in japanese. Mistranslated? Dude, Japanese isn't exactly easy to translate accurately.

Also, the Dubbed version > Original. Quit being weeaboo.

[Dreiko]

Dude, "Yikes" is probably non-existant in japanese. Mistranslated? Dude, Japanese isn't exactly easy to translate accurately.

Also, the Dubbed version > Original. Quit being weeaboo.

It exists, i actually know the language so i can tell what kind of speech fits a character and what does not. The japanese counterpart of yikes would be "yabe".

No, no dub ever beats the original, dubs are tools used for selling to the lowest common denominator. To the people who can't enjoy something if they have to read subtitles due to them being young children or uneducated people.

Quit being ignorant...and i don't have a clue about what that boo thing means...isn't it chanspeak from the chart where it says it's not to be taken seriously?

[RicetheZilla]

No, no dub ever beats the original, dubs are tools used for selling to the lowest common denominator. To the people who can't enjoy something if they have to read subtitles due to them being young children or uneducated people.

Thats your opinion, dude. I think the dub is better than the original. ALSO, if it weren't for the dub.. DBZ wouldn't be as popular as it is today, and these games wouldn't exist.


Quit being ignorant...and i don't have a clue about what that boo thing means...isn't it chanspeak from the chart where it says it's not to be taken seriously?

Dude, you're being ignorant, you pretty much trolled this thread with your "Anime Elitist" attitude, you don't like dubs? Well, thats good for you. Also, here you go (http://tinyurl.com/lszwus).

[Toreizhoukeizu]

It exists, i actually know the language so i can tell what kind of speech fits a character and what does not. The japanese counterpart of yikes would be "yabe".

No, no dub ever beats the original, dubs are tools used for selling to the lowest common denominator. To the people who can't enjoy something if they have to read subtitles due to them being young children or uneducated people.

Quit being ignorant...and i don't have a clue about what that boo thing means...isn't it chanspeak from the chart where it says it's not to be taken seriously?

Dreiko you really dont have to stomp that person in argument LOL all ive seen that user do is make arguments and annoy ppl only to lose the argument and look foolish...

I am just so tired of people who cant argue that continue to argue : |

@RicetheZilla (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/member.php?u=323944) He's not an elitist he just simply knows what he's talking about.

You seem to have the mentality that anyone who sounds smart(because they actually make sense and have facts to back it up) are cocky and trying to make others feel bad. Do us all a favor and stop causing issues and just enjoy life geeze..

Im not going to get caught in a war with you seeing is you dont even know how to argue lolz so I'll do you a favor and leave the thread :)

[1080pnis]

agree with dreik on this one, the dub for goku in this game is so GAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!
he gets flanked: "YIKES!!"
He does super rising: "WHooo!"
he gets smacked by a smash attack "WHOAAAOOo!!"


The english dub always waters down the anime to the appeal of little kids,:down: which is why i personally hate it

[Toreizhoukeizu]

agree with dreik on this one, the dub for goku in this game is so GAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!
he gets flanked: "YIKES!!"
He does super rising: "WHooo!"
he gets smacked by a smash attack "WHOAAAOOo!!"


The english dub always waters down the anime to the appeal of little kids,:down: which is why i personally hate it

QFT Then runs* :D

[Dreiko]

Thats your opinion, dude. I think the dub is better than the original. ALSO, if it weren't for the dub.. DBZ wouldn't be as popular as it is today, and these games wouldn't exist.You think anime which have no dubs don't have games made on them? You're dreaming. You thinking the dub is better doesn't make it better, it makes you not knowledgeable about anime.


If there wasn't a dub people in usa wouldn't associate anime with cartoons for kids when they are not so in japan, they would view them as entertainment meant for something more than children and weirdos, like it is in japan, so excuse me for not excreting gratitude out of my every pore.

Dude, you're being ignorant, you pretty much trolled this thread with your "Anime Elitist" attitude, you don't like dubs? Well, thats good for you. Also, here you go.Nope, you're the troll, i'm just stating facts here.Dreiko you really dont have to stomp that person in argument LOL all ive seen that user do is make arguments and annoy ppl only to lose the argument and look foolish...

I am just so tired of people who cant argue that continue to argue : |Dunno, i guess i just like the fresh smell of baked noob in the evening. :D

Most people who can't argue don't realize it, that's why it's so fun :p.

[RicetheZilla]

You seem to have the mentality that anyone who sounds smart(because they actually make sense and have facts to back it up) are cocky and trying to make others feel bad. Do us all a favor and stop causing issues and just enjoy life geeze..
No, dude. He has been a member of this forum since 05, he should know the rules. Insulting the dub anime in a thread that isn't related to ****ing the anime is blatant trolling.

[1080pnis]

ALSO, if it weren't for the dub.. DBZ wouldn't be as popular as it is today, and these games wouldn't exist

You just lost all credibility with that ignorant statement, good day sir.

[Dreiko]

No, dude. He has been a member of this forum since 05, he should know the rules. Insulting the dub anime in a thread that isn't related to ****ing the anime is blatant trolling.

You've been a member since 08, you should know that when i badmouth dubs i'm not trolling.

[RicetheZilla]

You think anime which have no dubs don't have games made on them? You're dreaming. You thinking the dub is better doesn't make it better, it makes you not knowledgeable about anime.

Um, yeah, and how well do those games sell? Naruto is probably the 2nd best selling anime-game series, and thats pretty ****ing sad. Anime games generally suck ass, Dragonball Z games clearly appeal to the american consumers which is why it still ****ing exist, and who's to thank for that? The "dubbers".

Also, I honestly think Anime sucks ass, so of course I don't know much about it.


If there wasn't a dub people in usa wouldn't associate anime with cartoons for kids when they are not so in japan, they would view them as entertainment meant for something more than children and weirdos, like it is in japan, so excuse me for not excreting gratitude out of my every pore.

Um, wow. Dude, who gives a ****? The american version is made for children, if you don't like it.. well don't watch it.

[1080pnis]

Dude, you're being ignorant, you pretty much trolled this thread with your "Anime Elitist" attitude, you don't like dubs? Well, thats good for you. Also, here you go (http://tinyurl.com/lszwus).

Thanx for the lesson in net slang:D. heres what describes YOUR attitude good sir,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdj2zbMIOqU

[Dreiko]

Um, yeah, and how well do those games sell? Naruto is probably the 2nd best selling anime-game series, and thats pretty ****ing sad. Anime games generally suck ass, Dragonball Z games clearly appeal to the american consumers which is why it still ****ing exist, and who's to thank for that? The "dubbers".


Naruto has sold maybe 5 million copies. Take a look at how much gundam has sold and then start talking.

DBZ games are not meant for america, if they were they'd all be FPSs. If they are then we wouldn't have gotten arale in bt3 when Dr.Slump is not big at all over here.



Um, wow. Dude, who gives a ****? The american version is made for children, if you don't like it.. well don't watch it.

Knowledgeable fans do. Like i said above, i plan on not watching it.

Btw, what is this i hear...you just agreed that the dub is inferior, didn't you? :haha:

[RicetheZilla]

Naruto has sold maybe 5 million copies. Take a look at how much gundam has sold and then start talking.

DBZ games are not meant for america, if they were they'd all be FPSs. If they are then we wouldn't have gotten arale in bt3 when Dr.Slump is not big at all over here.

Wow, Gundam? That series has about 10000 games, of course the one guy that collects those games will buy every one.. it doesn't count.

DBZ games are for the children that watch the anime(american), "Otakus"(american), as well as casual anime fans(american). Dragon Ball Z is OLD news in Japan. So, yeah, it's meant for America(Atari's biggest consumer), otherwise it wouldn't be MADE for americans. Dr.Slump? VIZ Media say's "hi". Also, Raging Blast is ****ing released in US before its released in Japan, explain that?..

You really don't make any ****ing sense, dude.. how the **** are DBZ games not for american? When they're ****ing translated for ****ing Americans?

[Dreiko]

How about pokemon then if gundam won't do, it's the second best selling game series ever made lol.


DBZ is huge in japan, recently they started showing a remake series without the fillers, called dragonball kai, and they redid all the voice acting for it and it is shown once a week. You really are not knowledgeable at all.

Atari doesn't make the games, it's just a publisher, Bandai Namco makes the games along with tens of others.

This game releases november 13 on both japan and usa so i don't know where you get your info.

[Bob9600]

Personally my opinion on the Dub of Dbz compared to the original Japanese version. The Japanese version is more true to the story but even it strays from the manga quite a bit because of filler. But the Dub goes even further, which isn't good. But also I grew up with the Dub, so when I try to watch Dbz in Japanese I can't, nothing sounds right. I believe the Japanese version is probobly superior but I don't believe the Dub is horrible either. I notice alot that could have been done better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCk8FROqLPQ&feature=related But at the same time I believe they did some things better then the original, like the soundtrack but thats all opinion not fact. There is only really one song in the Japanese version I enjoy, and the scene it is used in blows the Dub away completely and totally. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CncprLa_E-c

Now on topic, I didn't really hear much of a difference. Even if there is one it wasn't huge. If it is there and I just missed it then thats pretty cool, they are adding abit more detail.

[RicetheZilla]

How about pokemon then if gundam won't do, it's the second best selling game series ever made lol.


DBZ is huge in japan, recently they started showing a remake series without the fillers, called dragonball kai, and they redid all the voice acting for it and it is shown once a week. You really are not knowledgeable at all.

Atari doesn't make the games, it's just a publisher, Bandai Namco makes the games along with tens of others.

This game releases november 13 on both japan and usa so i don't know where you get your info.
Pokemon was a game-series before it became an anime. :noob:
Fact is, a majority of Dragon Ball Z fans are american, because it's a recent anime in the US.. while in Japan it aired years ago. Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit sold more in US than it did in Japan.. that speaks for itself.

Dude, I know what the **** Atari does. If it weren't for them the game wouldn't be released in the US.

I'm pretty sure the game is released Nov 10(US).. Ive saw this release date on several sites.

[Rockalot]

Ok calm down everyone before Marby comes in here guns'a blazing.

Dreiko I think you were harsh and a bit out of line with your origional comment so I'd expect Zilla to talk back.

Just for the record I agree with Zilla. I think the dub does a better job of conveying emotion than the origional. That's just my opinion though. I understand full well if you think differently but you MUST admit there is no objective truth, just what you subjectively believe.

[Dreiko]

Pokemon was a game-series before it became an anime. :noob:
Fact is, a majority of Dragon Ball Z fans are american, because it's a recent anime in the US.. while in Japan it aired years ago. Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit sold more in US than it did in Japan.. that speaks for itself.

Dude, I know what the **** Atari does. If it weren't for them the game wouldn't be released in the US.

I'm pretty sure the game is released Nov 10(US).. Ive saw this release date on several sites.

Pokemon is a multiplex of things, the games and the anime coexist. There's a bunch of manga too, point being, not all things anime-related need dubs to sell well. Even if it was a game first, it was an anime-like game.

America is a larger country than japan, that's why the games sell more here.

You're wrong once more, Raging blast is being released by bandai namco in USA, not by atari, therefore, if atari didn't publish the past games namco bandai would have like it's doing now.


Release date is november 13, sites used to say england would get it october 23 too but look how that turned out.Dreiko I think you were harsh and a bit out of line with your origional comment so I'd expect Zilla to talk back. Heh, now you're excused to think of me being out of line with such comment, just so you know though, it's more like me being typical than anything. If you stay here a bit longer and don't just leave after news of the game dry up you'll understand.

[Rockalot]

Heh, now you're excused to think of me being out of line with such comment, just so you know though, it's more like me being typical than anything. If you stay here a bit longer and don't just leave after news of the game dry up you'll understand.Actually I'm on pretty much every day, reading everyones comments. It's rare I go without - I'm really looking forward to this game see :P I just don't post unless I have something I really want to say. I know you - you're intelligent and usually logical and rational. However you're not very polite :P But it's no big deal - I just don't think Zilla deserved such a reaction - though much worse happens here every day. Anyway, I think we can agree to our differences in opinion and concentrate on looking forward to the game together instead.

[macdaddymario]

PLEASE tell me America is keeping the Anime industry afloat with it's Dubbing.

Not to play devils advocate here... But I think he was referring to keeping anime alive in America... not globally.

[Degalon]

Putting dialogue aside, the Funimation dub has EXCELLENT voices for characters.

Goku, Piccolo, and Cooler, for example. They don't sound anywhere NEAR as good in Japanese (Goku's painful to listen to)

Plus, without the dub, we wouldn't have Final Cooler speech. Which is quite possibly the greatest supervillain speech of all TIME.

"I am the Supreme Master of this universe!
I am the Great Destroyer, the Taker of Life!
It is My Will that this planet, and everyone on it,
BE ANNIHILATED!"

((I am in love with Final Cooler's Funi voice, lol))

[1080pnis]

Putting dialogue aside, the Funimation dub has EXCELLENT voices for characters.

Goku, Piccolo, and Cooler, for example. They don't sound anywhere NEAR as good in Japanese (Goku's painful to listen to)

Plus, without the dub, we wouldn't have Final Cooler speech. Which is quite possibly the greatest supervillain speech of all TIME.

"I am the Supreme Master of this universe!
I am the Great Destroyer, the Taker of Life!
It is My Will that this planet, and everyone on it,
BE ANNIHILATED!"

((I am in love with Final Cooler's Funi voice, lol))

it sucks:down:.

[IcyVegeta]

Please disregard my earlier post, but my main point still stands.

[SnakeCharmer]

Actually the coolest thing would be when you pile drive someone in a crator it caves even further.

[Ryuku]

Actually the coolest thing would be when you pile drive someone in a crator it caves even further.

Now that you mention it, there are a couple spots in the demo where that can occur.

[Dreiko]

Actually I'm on pretty much every day, reading everyones comments. It's rare I go without - I'm really looking forward to this game see :P I just don't post unless I have something I really want to say. I know you - you're intelligent and usually logical and rational. However you're not very polite :P But it's no big deal - I just don't think Zilla deserved such a reaction - though much worse happens here every day. Anyway, I think we can agree to our differences in opinion and concentrate on looking forward to the game together instead.

Yes, see, you registered in April of this year, that's what i was referring to. You missed 4 years of stuff that would put my "rudeness" (it's really not that, it's more akin to purism mixed with elitism mixed with english text translated from greek japanese and english thoughts) in context.

[shadowreaper]

It exists, i actually know the language so i can tell what kind of speech fits a character and what does not. The japanese counterpart of yikes would be "yabe".

No, no dub ever beats the original, dubs are tools used for selling to the lowest common denominator. To the people who can't enjoy something if they have to read subtitles due to them being young children or uneducated people.

Quit being ignorant...and i don't have a clue about what that boo thing means...isn't it chanspeak from the chart where it says it's not to be taken seriously?
Hold on there buddy, although I agree with the points you're stating. I didn't like this one in particular. Kind of a narcissistic approach you took there with that statement which I highlighted bold. On the contrary the "lowest common denominator" might be the other way around. I guess you replied with your ID and avoided your ego and super ego to condense your statement, I don't know but it was a bit subliminal. I'm only stricken with curiosity. So lets not bewilder ourselves with who's right and who's wrong but I would say this; dubs doesn't necessarily mean the person is young or uneducated, the individual just chose and never saw fit to familiarize themselves with the so called "education" you mentioned. In this case I would presume you meant individuals who don't know japanese. Once again I take the approach of being subliminal with my words, just to let the person reading ponder and decipher what I'm trying to express. Whether you like my response or not, simply just be careful with what you say because some people might read it another way. Oh and spare me with any differences or desire to extend on my explanation, all I'm trying to do is pitch in my two cents. Basically man, relax, its only a cartoon, oops, i meant "anime." Ha ha ha...:haha:

FYI... I also have japanese ancestry in my background so I know the differences between the japanese and english dialogue. And yes the english dub can be painful at times. Though I choose to listen to it over the japanese dialogue, due to personal choice.

[Dreiko]

Actually, the "uneducated" was referring to people who'd have subtitles take away from the enjoyment they'd derive from watching anime in japanese with subs in whichever language they speak due to their bad reading skills.


Normally, in places not USA, all foreign media is watched in it's original language with subtitles excluding programs intended for children young enough to not be able to read well.

[1080pnis]

Yes, see, you registered in April of this year, that's what i was referring to. You missed 4 years of stuff that would put my "rudeness" (it's really not that, it's more akin to purism mixed with elitism mixed with english text translated from greek japanese and english thoughts) in context.

i agree with you but shut up dreiko with your pedestal talk:o

[shadowreaper]

Actually, the "uneducated" was referring to people who'd have subtitles take away from the enjoyment they'd derive from watching anime in japanese with subs in whichever language they speak due to their bad reading skills.


Normally, in places not USA, all foreign media is watched in it's original language with subtitles excluding programs intended for children young enough to not be able to read well.

I see now, appreciate the response and yes I understand now. Subtitles do in fact cripple the bliss in any show, generally speaking. I can vouch for that. Ha ha ha... :haha::up:

[Dreiko]

I see now, appreciate the response and yes I understand now. Subtitles do in fact cripple the bliss in any show, generally speaking. I can vouch for that. Ha ha ha... :haha::up:

Not for ones used to watching stuff with subs, i've been used to them all my life growing up in Greece so it doesn't take away from the experience in the least.

People here seem to be negatively predisposed to reading of any sort.

[Tales76]

Seriously the voice acting of DB Kai sucks, I hate the new voice of Zarbon, and the voice of Vegeta is weird imo. It seems Ryo Horikawa has gotten old or something, overall I just prefer the old voice acting, when they were at their best, once again (imo).

[1080pnis]

because they are stupid "americans":p

[Dreiko]

Seriously the voice acting of DB Kai sucks, I hate the new voice of Zarbon, and the voice of Vegeta is weird imo. It seems Ryo Horikawa has gotten old or something, overall I just prefer the old voice acting, when they were at their best, once again (imo).

I never much cared for henchmen so i didn't mind.

[Tales76]

I never much cared for henchmen so i didn't mind.

I'd say overall, haven't you not noticed that the voice of Vegeta changed a bit? It's the same voice actor but his voice is different.

[Dreiko]

I like him, he did a few of his lines a bit differently though we've heard him do it so many times in the games that i don't mind.

[shadowreaper]

Not for ones used to watching stuff with subs, i've been used to them all my life growing up in Greece so it doesn't take away from the experience in the least.

People here seem to be negatively predisposed to reading of any sort.

Oh ok, I guess any can cope or simply learn to relinquish any handicap. In it of any sort.

I concur due to the fact that I know that a majority of the people "reading" its not one of their favorable hobby. Cause of it I can understand why a lot of individuals view it in a rather uncomfortable manner.

[Dreiko]

I run into this situation when I talk about games too. Most people who wouldn't enjoy an RPG are the ones who'd go for the dub of an anime. Reading for fun is an alien concept to some, not sure if this is an educational concern or a cultural/sociological one, probably more than one of these, either way it's quite opposite to the culture anime and anime-ish games belong to.

[MysticGospel]

To me Sub>Dub, if you watch enough episodes you get used to the voices, plus the music flows much better in the fight scenes, it sounds like background music unlike the Dub's which is more like mood music that misses it's mark quite frequently. I watched Goku vs Kid Buu in Japanese and it was very, very easy to watch, it was actually comforting in a way.

That's not to say that the Dub sucks, because it doesn't. Although I prefer the majority of the Japanese voices (not Babadi's) the Funimation voices are pretty good ( I do have a problem with Vegeta's whose voice I can't imagine belonging to a bad guy). Plus although the music seems to fit the mood here and there, when it comes to the major defeats, the music really shines Cell's and Kid Buu's death were so cool in the dub.

Dragonball Kai has a really nice soundtrack too.

On topic:
Sounds cool that we have some subtle things mixed in with the game.

[shadowreaper]

I run into this situation when I talk about games too. Most people who wouldn't enjoy an RPG are the ones who'd go for the dub of an anime. Reading for fun is an alien concept to some, not sure if this is an educational concern or a cultural/sociological one, probably more than one of these, either way it's quite opposite to the culture anime and anime-ish games belong to.

Yeah I agree, if you were to ask my opinion is more of a social problem branching out to cultures or any sort. And the quote I would use is the one you explain yourself with.
People here seem to be negatively predisposed to reading of any sort.
This is practically the best way to explain it. I find that some of your points are compelling and in fact true.