All things about Cryptozoology

[deej1011]

Originally Posted by tohofan

Dude, I may be wrong, but I dont think there are any eels alive in the loch, it's a dead lake.

There are many creatures still living in the loch, tis not dead at all. There are eels, seals, fish, and a few others. There is also seaweed in it, thus disproving what you said about no plant life...

Now as for people who don't think Nessie survive, I have a theory about this; that ironically ties into how "thunderbirds" could be possible. See, during the great extinction (when the meteor hit and clouded the earth with dust, blotting out the sun and releasing poisonous fumes) the creatures of the sea were unaffected. Think about it, dust that was prevalent at a certain height in the air, wouldn't affect anything but perhaps surface sea creatures. Though, once it hit the surface it would sink to a short depth down and just become floating debris, becoming watered down and thus no longer harmful. As for the sun being blotted out, the deepest of sea creatures could survive on the plant life, or each other (the plants that far down don't need sunlight to produce food, nor do the animals). When the ice age came, they would still have no need to worry. Any freezing would only affect the surface area, thus not cooling down the depths any more than they already had been. In effect; the largest of sea creatures more than likely evolved to become smaller (due to rising population numbers, they'd need more space of course) OR reproduced less due to long lifespans and overcrowding. Therefore; I strongly believe in some shape or form, many of the ancient creatures of the seas are still alive. Nessie, Ogopogo, etc. included

Now you may be asking: Ok that's plausible, but what about air creatures? Pterandons and whatnot also most likely survived the great extinction. Because, like all smoke and smoke-like substances; the dust must have "stacked" at a certain height. Most of the pteranodons easily flew above this range anyways, some even having nests at this height. They could easily dive down on the fly to eat what sea creatures were still there, thus providing sustainance. They would continue to live in this fashion until finally the dust settled down. Depending on when it did finally stop, they could scavenge on the corpses of dead animals (provided they were still fresh. But given that the dust could have taken many years to settle given the shear amount, they might have stuck to the sea animals). Again with the ice age, they could have survived. Why you ask? Because it was found that a great many of them had a thick many of fur along their back and at the base of their wings (I saw this recently on a discovery channel special about them.) Scientists are still puzzled as to the purpose behind this; though two popular theories are it was for better flight control (unlikely, as pterosaurs were the "masters of flight;" being able to do things no current flying creatures could do while on the wing) OR that it was for warmth. Why they would need to keep warm is still being pondered upon, though tis theorized that it was due to the elevations most pterosaurs kept their nests. Thusly, most "thunderbirds" are likely to be pterosaurs or their descendants. Sure some legends claim of large feathered creatures picking up people, but tis possible they're descendants on a seperate evolutionary line. Plus there's of course the supposed sightings and abductions by "living pterosaurs" that have been prevalent in the midwest and south since around the 1830's...

So there you have it. Just my theorizing and such, but if you think about it it's quite possible that it makes sense.

Also, on the mothman thing, has anyone hear the two newer theories? Some claim he was from an alien race that had come to Earth to warn us about the bridge, and supposedly they do so for other disasters (apparently most humans just don't listen or can't understand). Then on this T.V show I saw, it was theorized he was more of some spiritual-ish being, as a psychic on the show proportedly "talked" to him for a bit.

By the way, I LOVE this thread, cryptozoology is a favorite subject of mine

[avpvjp]

Prehistoric reptiles are out. The dust isn't the only nasty affects of an asteroid (and really, the late Cretaceous was hellish enough BEFORE that, with the dinosaurs themselves dying out before the impact, but I digress). The ash would've crippled phytoplankton growth, the base of the marine food chain. Marine reptiles, at the top, would've been hit HARDER, rather than less. Plus, it took millions of years for marine life to recover, a period that could not support large predators such as them.

As for pterosaurs, they were practically extinct in the late cretaceous anyway, and could NOT fly higher than the ash. Damn stuff was pretty much in orbit. Besides, birds effectively had 'dactyls beat during the Mesozoic anyway, even if pterosaurs DID survive the K-T, they wouldn't have lasted long at all.

[TheKillerRabbit]

Originally Posted by tohofan

Dude, I may be wrong, but I dont think there are any eels alive in the loch, it's a dead lake.

Originally Posted by tohofan

Thats just rediculous. I dont believe that Nessie exists, and the reason is that nothing is alive in the Loch anymore, not even plantlife, much less animals.

You honestly just said those things? No offense, but how could it possibly be a dead lake? A lot of the sightings were from fishermen, people who ran fishing boats, even tourists on glass bottom boats. How would any of those industries exist in a dead lake. Also, didn't you ever see "Scooby Doo And The Mystery of the Loch"? It explains it all!

[GodzillaGameFan]

Speaking of Pterosaurs. They may still be alive, but chances are mostly slim. Africa jungles and amazon are a suitable habitat for them to live and would not barely evolve. But probably are dead anyway.


Guys hear of the Kongamato



The Kongamato ("breaker of boats") is a reported pterosaur-like creature from the border area of Zambia, Angola and Congo. Suggested identities include a modern-day Rhamphorhynchus, a misidentified bird (such as the very large and peculiar Saddle-billed Stork), or a giant bat.

Frank Melland, in his 1923 book In Witchbound Africa, describes it as living along certain rivers, and very dangerous, often attacking small boats. It was red, with a wingspan of 4 to 7 feet. Members of the local Kaonde tribe identified it as a pterodactyl after being shown a picture of one from Melland's book collection.

In 1956 an engineer, J.P.F. Brown, allegedly saw the creature at Fort Rosebery near Lake Bangweulu in Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia). It was about 6:00 p.m. when he saw two creatures flying slowly and silently directly overhead. He observed that they looked prehistoric. He estimated a wingspan of about 3 to 3 1/2 feet (1 meter) and a beak-to-tail length of about 4 1/2 feet (1.5 meters). It reportedly had a long thin tail, and a narrow head which he likened to an elongated snout of a dog.

The following year, at a hospital at Fort Rosebery, a patient came in with a severe wound in his chest, claiming that a large bird had attacked him in the Bangweulu swamps. When asked to draw the bird, he allegedly drew a creature resembling a pterosaur. This drawing does not appear to have survived to the present.

It is curious to note that the area concerned is advertised as a prime birdwatching site, but this large, flying animal seems not to have been reported by any visiting birdwatchers.

There are reports of similar creatures (no details given) from Angola, Zimbabwe, Democratic Republic of Congo, Namibia, Tanzania and Kenya.


This is what many says that it might be and looks like.




Rhamphorhynchus

[avpvjp]

Pterosaurs are DEFINITELY gone. Especially Rhamphorinchids, which were outcompetted to extinction by pterodactyloids, and those in turn by birds.

[GodzillaGameFan]

I was on unexplained mysteries and on a forum about what the Bunyip could be. There were many theories it might be. Here it is.



What the Bunyip could be. You think any of these theories are likely.


Quinkana



: 1,600,000 - 40,000 years ago (Pleistocene)

Size: Length (head to tail): 7m

Description: Unlike today's Australian,this large crocodile lived on the land. Quinkana's long legs made it a fast hunter. It tired out its prey of mammals, and other reptiles in long chases.




Diprotodon



Meaning of


Diprotodon = "two forward teeth".

Subspecies
Several species of Diprotodon have been named based on the size of the skull (Diprotodon australis, Diprotodon minor), but these are probably all males and females of one species (Diprotodon optatum).

Statistics
Shoulder height: up to 1.7m (5 ft 7in), Body length: 3m (10ft) from nose to tail. Weight: males 2000 to 2500kg; females 1000kg.

Physical description
Diprotodon superficially resembled a rhino without a horn. Its feet turned inwards like a wombat’s, giving it a -toed appearance. It had strong claws on the front feet, so it may have been able to dig up roots to eat. Footprints of its hairy feet have been found, so we know it had fur like a rather than being bald like a rhino.




Australia's Megafauna Coexisted With Humans

ScienceDaily (May 31, 2005) — Analyses of ancient fossils suggest that early Australian Aborigines did not wipe out the continent's megafauna in a frenzied hunting rampage. New research conducted by Australian and British scientists reveals that in fact humans and megafauna, such as gigantic three tonne wombat-like creatures, a ferocious marsupial "]" and the world's all-time biggest lizard, may have co-existed for around 15 000 years.




Megafauna and humans co-existing

Cuddle Springs in north central NSW is currently the only place in Australia where evidence has been found of megafauna and humans co-existing. Excavations by a team from the University of Sydney has found evidence that megafauna were living at the site 30,000 years ago. If correct, this means that they must have survived the human-induced and also lived alongside humans for a further 15,000 years.








You think any of those could be what the Bunyip is?

[bio92]

I have never heard of the Bunyip.
Have any of you guys heard of the Nandi Bear?

[avpvjp]

I doubt either of them are still around. Quinkana MAYBE, MAYBE. But I'm biased because I like it more XD

[GodzillaGameFan]

Originally Posted by bio92

I have never heard of the Bunyip.
Have any of you guys heard of the Nandi Bear?

Nandi Bear. Yeah heard of it.

A Bear or a Bear like creature said to be living in Africa. Although no Bears live in Africa anymore however yes there was a type of Bear that used to live in Africa and it was the Atlas Bear that went extinct somewhere in the 1870's, but they say that some might be still alive, many claim that there is a relict population of Atlas Bears still around, but others say sightings of this creature could be a prehistoric short faced hyena, or even the Chalicothere

[bio92]

You don't have to tell me what it is. My uncle told me about it when I was about five or so.Some people say it might just be a new species of hyena. I don't know anything about the Atlas Bear. So I can't say anything about it.

[jackson117]

Speaking of which i think bigfoot is in one of the GTA but only the first set of original copy

[TheKillerRabbit]

No, people started a rumor of it being in San Andreas, even posted youtube videos, and people had different theories of how/when to find him, and it turned out to be a mod. I think it, like, changed the character models of some NPCs.

[GigaBowser2000]

Originally Posted by jackson117

Speaking of which i think bigfoot is in one of the GTA but only the first set of original copy

DAMN, you're stupid.

Bigfoot was a mod.

[GodzillaGameFan]

Hey guys. I hear that there are survival claims of Megalania, which was the biggest lizard to ever exist. 22 feet long and weighs over 1000 lbs. They say it went extinct 40,000 years ago in Australia, but according to Australian cryptozoologist name Rex Gilroy. He says it could still be out there alive in the outbacks of Australia since it is so large and some of the area has not been discovered. If it is still alive. That will be cool. Here is a picture of it. Also they say that the first settlers of Australia may have encounter these giant lizards.

[jackson117]

speaking of GTA whats with the ufo's they are pretty much lights that fly around alot

[GodzillaGameFan]

Originally Posted by jackson117

speaking of GTA whats with the ufo's they are pretty much lights that fly around alot

Jackson, this isn't a GTA thread. Talk about it on a thread that is about it. Okay.

[Kalebknecht]

Originally Posted by GodzillaGameFan

Jackson, this isn't a GTA thread. Talk about it on a thread that is about it. Okay.

He's talking about Cryptozoology referenced in GTA.

Now, we need to all play nice.

[GodzillaGameFan]

Originally Posted by Kalebknecht

He's talking about Cryptozoology referenced in GTA.

Now, we need to all play nice.

Oh, sorry. Didn't notice it.

[Kalebknecht]

Originally Posted by GodzillaGameFan

Oh, sorry. Didn't notice it.

Didn't notice what?

[GodzillaGameFan]

Originally Posted by Kalebknecht

Didn't notice what?

Didn't notice that he said ufo.

Anyway back to topic.

[Kalebknecht]

Originally Posted by GGF

Didn't notice that he said ufo.

Originally Posted by jackson117

speaking of GTA whats with the they are pretty much lights that fly around alot

......

Or you just noticed:

Originally Posted by jackson117

speaking of GTA

[GodzillaGameFan]

Originally Posted by Kalebknecht

......

Or you just noticed:

Well whatever.

I really find it so interesting that the Megalania may still be living, although they do look like Komodo Dragons only Megalania was bigger. I would actually be pretty scared to encounter a live Megalania if it is still alive today.

[hardrockzilla]

Originally Posted by jackson117

speaking of GTA whats with the ufo's they are pretty much lights that fly around alot

Wow, you're an idiot.

/stating the obvious

[GigaBowser2000]

Originally Posted by jackson117

speaking of GTA whats with the ufo's they are pretty much lights that fly around alot

Those were PLANES.

[jackson117]

Then how come when i fly up to them they are FREAKING LIGHTS THAT SMOKE on the back.

[GigaBowser2000]

PLANES LEAVE BEHIND 'SMOKE' TOO, DIP****.

Anyways, lets get back on topic.

[jackson117]

^yeah invisible planes with lights.

0_O.


Back on topic: Like there is a giant lizard dragon in Australia.
It would be on the news not to mention the bushfires would wipe it out

[GodzillaGameFan]

The Yeti. I hear that sightings of the creature could really jsut be a rare and endangered bear called the Himalyan Brown Bear standing up.

[GigaBowser2000]

Originally Posted by jackson117

^yeah invisible planes with lights.

0_O.


Back on topic: Like there is a giant lizard dragon in Australia.
It would be on the news not to mention the bushfires would wipe it out

Oi....

Planes have LIGHTS on them. Jets leave behind what you call 'smoke'. Idiot. It was a JET.


ANYWAYS,

I thought the Yeti had white fur, not brown...

[Zillachary]

Originally Posted by GigaBowser2000

I thought the Yeti had white fur, not brown...

Their is the theory that Bigfoot and Yeti are in fact the same species.As such, it could mean that the Yeti's fur is simply brown hair covered in white snow, making it look like white fur.