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View Poll Results: How Paranoid Are You
0 - Not At All 1 5.88%
1 - A little 1 5.88%
2 3 17.65%
3 3 17.65%
4 5 29.41%
5 1 5.88%
6- Cainish? Like when he was deleting his posts to "protect himself..." 1 5.88%
7 1 5.88%
8 0 0%
9 0 0%
10 - Bat **** insane 1 5.88%
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:54 AM   #31
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uh huh, "It's everyone else that's bat**** insane, not me! My lunacy makes perfect sense!"
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:23 PM   #32
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Unless you were born with your cynicism circuit set to 11. Like, say, you.
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On a scale of 1 to Kath?...hmm.

Maybe a 3.
Even then it's more curiousity than paranoia.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:24 AM   #34
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As long as you're not a freak, you can stay in the guest room. I have lots of room as you probably know. Oh, and no you can't stay for a month, just a couple days then you have to go.
Oh yes, in that gigantic archaic monstrousity you call a house.

Only a few days? It won't take me that long to........never mind.

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Oh yes, in that gigantic archaic monstrousity you call a house.

Only a few days? It won't take me that long to........never mind.



You ARE a weird feeling.
Archaic? Its a modern monstrosity, thank you very much. The house I moved from, built in 1939, was archaic. Nice looking house though - a colonial floor plan with a faux tudor facade. I love old brick houses. Big ass fire place too. But damn it was small and tight, on a street where *******s drove fast and no kids around.
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And, you see, the only other larger houses were MUCH larger. And the only neighborhoods where *******s didn't drive fast and kids were around were all HUGE houses.

You see? No choice whatsoever.
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And, you see, the only other larger houses were MUCH larger. And the only neighborhoods where *******s didn't drive fast and kids were around were all HUGE houses.

You see? No choice whatsoever.
Oh there was every choice in the book, but alas I had to make the right one. Thank god for that.
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Oh there was every choice in the book, but alas I had to make the right one. Thank god for that.
How can you tell you made a right one?
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How can you tell you made a right one?
How can anyone tell I made the right or wrong one?
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Well, I know its right because it feels so right. Is it right though? What does right mean? That it meets some criteria for right? Well, it meets the criteria I set, but apparently not those of some others, so they think its wrong. Now we have to examine the criteria and find out whether they are right. And their rightness is judged, again, by secondary criteria which I'm sure I and certain others will disagree on. So how can you tell if its a right decision or not? Take a poll? Is that how right and wrong is determined, by majority opinion?
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You mean about your house, Chabooli? That's the emotional part of a business decision. It can backfire.

You must really be in love with your house since you were willing to carry two mortgages to buy it, and trust the market will rebound. Gambling, we all do it, only hindsight is 20/20.
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You mean about your house, Chabooli? That's the emotional part of a business decision. It can backfire.

You must really be in love with your house since you were willing to carry two mortgages to buy it, and trust the market will rebound. Gambling, we all do it, only hindsight is 20/20.
I risked carrying two mortgages because: A. the Disaster hadn't occurred yet. and B. I budgeted for it

And I'm not in 'love' with my house. I like the space, the location, the neighbors, the schools, etc etc etc. The increased costs are not a hardship. So its hard for me to have a regret when there's not been any real down side.
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You remind me of my sisters. Keeping our mother's Florida home wasn't really a financial hardship before the hurricanes Rita and Katrina, the changes in homeowner's insurance, the collapse of the market. It was an emotional decision tho, and now it's coming back to bite them. Good luck with the Michigan market.

Back to paranoia. One of my sisters has food paranoia, big time. She even washes cans before opening them ('dirtiest inch in the kitchen') so the germs won't get in the food. Even tho cooking kills germs. She also washes the pre-washed bagged lettuces.

Maybe that's not paranoia, but food fear?
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FDA had nothing to do with washing the edges of canned goods before we open them. Maybe germophobia is okay with you, but I think it's getting ridiculous.

We now have Purell at grocery store entry doors, and sanitizing wipes for the cart handles. But they have huge self-serve fresh fruit and salad bars with nothing but a lame plexiglass sneeze guard. People are odd.
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FDA had nothing to do with washing the edges of canned goods before we open them. Maybe germophobia is okay with you, but I think it's getting ridiculous.

We now have Purell at grocery store entry doors, and sanitizing wipes for the cart handles. But they have huge self-serve fresh fruit and salad bars with nothing but a lame plexiglass sneeze guard. People are odd.
Who would use a public salad bar. Yuck.

Also, I'd like to think canneries are required by FDA to be at least clean enough that the exterior of the can isn't coated with e-coli, but you never know.
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I use salad bars. Why not? They monitor the temperature and public display better than any private party with appetizers and cheese sitting out for hours on end.

I will buy deli ham salad, which is supposedly just a bunch of ground-up nearly expired garbage. I buy soups in huge vats, if there's not much dried skin on top. I buy ground meat on its expiration date and cook the hell out of it. I eat hot dogs from street vendors, too.

Cannery sanitation requirements end the moment we bring canned goods home and stack them on our shelves.
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I use salad bars. Why not? They monitor the temperature and public display better than any private party with appetizers and cheese sitting out for hours on end.
Gross.

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I will buy deli ham salad, which is supposedly just a bunch of ground-up nearly expired garbage. I buy soups in huge vats, if there's not much dried skin on top. I buy ground meat on its expiration date and cook the hell out of it. I eat hot dogs from street vendors, too.
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There's surprisingly few requirements about what we can do with hazardous chemicals in the house too. You can buy some really really nasty **** - like bleach for example - and dump it down your sink and there's no law that says they can't sell it to you and you can't dump it. It's your castle, so buy a BIG one!
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You have some false assumptions about the safety of your food and water, choo choo.

Even if you make homemade pancakes with your kids on Saturday, from a commercial mix, you probably don't want to know about how the flour mill sprays for rodents.

I feel "safer" buying ham salad from the grocery deli than I do ordering a reuben sandwich at a restaurant. Unless it's one of those mom 'n pop places where I can sit at the counter and watch them grill.

If they go from my handling my food to handling the register money, I will say something. Truth is, we have no idea what trail came from our food to our mouths, unless we grow it all.

Even then, our henhouse can have salmonella on the egg shells.
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You have some false assumptions about the safety of your food and water, choo choo.

Even if you make homemade pancakes with your kids on Saturday, from a commercial mix, you probably don't want to know about how the flour mill sprays for rodents.

I feel "safer" buying ham salad from the grocery deli than I do ordering a reuben sandwich at a restaurant. Unless it's one of those mom 'n pop places where I can sit at the counter and watch them grill.

If they go from my handling my food to handling the register money, I will say something. Truth is, we have no idea what trail came from our food to our mouths, unless we grow it all.

Even then, our henhouse can have salmonella on the egg shells.
You eat in restaurants? Ugh.
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Do you wash your wine bottle necks before you uncork and pour?
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Do you wash your wine bottle necks before you uncork and pour?
I never worry about alcohol.
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I never worry about alcohol.
Generally I don't either. But I don't drink from bottles let alone draught beer. I've sat at bars watching the bartenders who plunge and dunk those glasses. Doesn't seem very sanitary when womens' lipstick remains after "cleaning"....

then I realize my martini glass was cleaned the same way.

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Actually, GGT, they use a soapy water, a clear water rinse, and then a strong disinfectant/sterilizing rinse. At least in BFE Wyoming they do. The disinfectant is actually so strong that it took all the color out of a new tatoo. I spaced out and dunked a beer mug with my left hand, causing my tat to swell up, then it peeled and took the color out.
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Generally I don't either. But I don't drink from bottles let alone draught beer. I've sat at bars watching the bartenders who plunge and dunk those glasses. Doesn't seem very sanitary when womens' lipstick remains after "cleaning"....

then I realize my martini glass was cleaned the same way.

Cheers.
Well, if its a martini, the alcohol sanitizes. And you can always get a lime to sanitize the lip of the beer bottle.

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Actually, GGT, they use a soapy water, a clear water rinse, and then a strong disinfectant/sterilizing rinse. At least in BFE Wyoming they do. The disinfectant is actually so strong that it took all the color out of a new tatoo. I spaced out and dunked a beer mug with my left hand, causing my tat to swell up, then it peeled and took the color out.
WTF Do you know what's in that?
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Actually, GGT, they use a soapy water, a clear water rinse, and then a strong disinfectant/sterilizing rinse. At least in BFE Wyoming they do. The disinfectant is actually so strong that it took all the color out of a new tatoo. I spaced out and dunked a beer mug with my left hand, causing my tat to swell up, then it peeled and took the color out.
Here it's usually water, often with some type of special glass cleaner. Not strong at all since that would kill the beer, and it doesn't seem healthy (at all) either. But if you clean the glasses on a brush and twist it, you usually get all lipstick off.
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You guys are real germophobes. O.o

You know its okay to have a little bacteria in your gut, k? A person who is never exposed to germs will fall hard when they do get some sort of illness.

My germophobic cousin is always dousing her kids with purell, multiple baths...then freaks out when they get a cold and can't shake it.

Being bacteria-free is not necessarily a good thing people!

With that said I don't buy bag lettuce (except for coleslaw mix, and I do wash it)
Always wash fruit and veggies, no matter if they've been bagged or not. You never can be too sure these days.

/hypocrisy
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With that said I don't buy bag lettuce (except for coleslaw mix, and I do wash it)
Always wash fruit and veggies, no matter if they've been bagged or not. You never can be too sure these days.

/hypocrisy
What, are you paranoid or something?

Also, a bacteria free human would be a dead human.
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I'm only paranoid about the fresh stuff

Can stuff you cook anyways so I don't worry too much there.

And I just try not to think about those unwashed cretins before me when I'm at the salad bar.
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