Clarification on UT2004 versions: Mac, Linux , and Windows for AMD64.

Mark Rein · 09-23-2003, 11:05 PM

We are planning to ship UT2004 on OS X at approximately the same time as the Windows release. It will be published by Macsoft and will also include optimizations for the new G5 processors.

UT2004 will support Linux (both client and server) as well. As with UT2003, Linux support will be included in the box with UT2004. This time we'll make sure it gets mentioned on the box.

In case you also weren't aware of this: the Windows version of UT2004 will include native 64-bit support for AMD Athlon 64. Tim Sweeney and Ryan Gordon demonstrated the 64-bit version of UT2004 at today's AMD64 launch event in San Francisco.

Logy · 09-23-2003, 11:19 PM

There was an AMD 64 launch thingy with UT2004 in SF and I missed it?

D'OH!

Oh, well.

Many thanks to Epic for their continued support of freedom of choice.

Dark_Knight · 09-23-2003, 11:35 PM

Well I feel better now, thanks mark.

Sailor_Saturn · 09-24-2003, 12:00 AM

awesome news mark

yewnuhtee · 09-24-2003, 12:10 AM

just wondering about the topic of the thread, but is "AMD644" correct?

therealvader · 09-24-2003, 12:11 AM

does anyone know how ut is running on the windows64 beta? 64-bit support is great and all, but not much use if the operating system is a pos.

intention · 09-24-2003, 03:46 AM

is there a video of the san francisco unveiling?

09-24-2003, 04:20 AM

AMD RULEZZZZZ FOREVER AND EVAR AND EVA!!!!!!!

Web cast is available on AMD's web site, check "News" section.

kiddailey · 09-24-2003, 05:54 AM

It's really good to hear this -- that cross platform development is happening at the same time and/or in rapid succession.

Awesome!

dinwitty · 09-24-2003, 12:22 PM

are there different executables for 32bit and 64 bit? will the install automatically detect which what to use?

Mujoo · 09-24-2003, 01:10 PM

Since cross platform development is simultaneous this time round, will Mac users get a map editor also?
Plzzzz

if you enable one for us I'll by UTK4. If it doesn't, I'm sticking to UTK3
-Mujoo

LeJimster · 09-24-2003, 02:57 PM

Mujoo i dont think its a simple task to do porting the editor.. So my guess is no.. Plus they'd haveto support the editor if they did a mac version, and i dont see that happening.

Happy_Hamburger · 09-24-2003, 03:36 PM

so ut2004 will ship with 64 bit coding in the box?

191 · 09-24-2003, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Happy_Hamburger
so ut2004 will ship with 64 bit coding in the box?

i think they duct taped it on the side of the box.

JarvisJ · 09-24-2003, 05:51 PM

Good to hear. I may use Linux more now

Iceboy2003 · 09-24-2003, 10:14 PM

So is this gonna just sense whether or not you have XP Pro 64-Bit and install the binaries it needs for that? Or do you have to run a seperate installer, or whatnot?

Cool on all fronts though.

Mark Rein · 09-24-2003, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iceboy2003
So is this gonna just sense whether or not you have XP Pro 64-Bit and install the binaries it needs for that? Or do you have to run a seperate installer, or whatnot?

We have not decided for sure but I think what we'll do is have you install the normal 32-bit version and then run an update program, that comes on the CD, to update it to 64-bit. At the time we ship Windows XP 64-bit edition will most likely still be in beta so I think this is the safest way to handle it.

Dark_Knight · 09-24-2003, 11:40 PM

I would do it that way to.

dinwitty · 09-24-2003, 11:51 PM

AMD promises 32 bit compatibility, while Intel does not.
Should someone own an Intel 64bit, trying to install a 32 bit wont work.
Thats the problem I see with Intel;s decision to not be 32 bit compatible.

Making just a dedicated 64 bit system is
simply creating another MAC. no offense to MAC users.

Intel would have to make some kind 32 bit emulator to get around this.

of course the game should be compatible between 32 and 64 bit online play IE file size mismatches when joining...

Descentia · 09-25-2003, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sailor_Saturn
awesome news mark

09-25-2003, 02:11 AM

I wonder if its possible for 32bit .exe running on a 64bit CPU, detect that the CPU is 64bit and use the 64bit extensions/larger registers/other stuff, thus achiving better results. I guess this is more programming work though.

Ichi · 09-25-2003, 03:10 AM

Hey, cool, I was worried if I upgraded my system to an Athlon 64 it wouldn't support UT2004, also good to hear it's going to be released on Mac OS X at the same time!

09-25-2003, 07:12 AM

Good News! And my first UT2004 question:

WHRER IS MY MAC OS X DEMO!

Happy_Hamburger · 09-25-2003, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Rein
We have not decided for sure but I think what we'll do is have you install the normal 32-bit version and then run an update program, that comes on the CD, to update it to 64-bit. At the time we ship Windows XP 64-bit edition will most likely still be in beta so I think this is the safest way to handle it.

Great news that companies are already jumping on the 64 bit bandwagon (thumbs up for Tim Sweeny)

I just hope that Windows XP 64 Bit edition can run 32 bit apps the same speed as the normal WinXP

Uncommon · 09-25-2003, 11:33 AM

What about dual processor support in the Mac version?

Thraka · 09-25-2003, 11:43 AM

I have a friend on the MS OS Test group and they say the AMD 64 has GREAT 32 bit compatability and Intel doesn't have any.

MrCamper · 09-25-2003, 12:35 PM

I know its early, but have there been any published benchmarks between WIN32 and WIN64 UT2k4 either by Epic or someone else??

....AND, is the WIndows XP 64 gonna be available in a public beta release by release time of UT2k4??

Thraka · 09-25-2003, 12:35 PM

Yes I would love to see this too!

kees@mac · 09-25-2003, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Rein
We are planning to ship UT2004 on OS X at approximately the same time as the Windows release. It will be published by Macsoft and will also include optimizations for the new G5 processors

can annything be revealed about what kinda optimizations we can expect? Will there also be a 64bit version for G5s, or does this mean altivec etc.?
good news either way, thx for the update.

09-25-2003, 03:44 PM

As I heard from gamestar.de, there will be a 64Bit Linux Version too for the AMD64 platform, but I can't interpret that from Marks posting.
So will there be one or not? (although I could ask icculus directly, but he isn't in the channel as often as before, seems very busy *g*)

09-23-2003, 11:05 PM	#1
Mark Rein Vice President Epic Games Inc. (Not Atari employee) Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 218	Clarification on UT2004 versions: Mac, Linux , and Windows for AMD64. We are planning to ship UT2004 on OS X at approximately the same time as the Windows release. It will be published by Macsoft and will also include optimizations for the new G5 processors. UT2004 will support Linux (both client and server) as well. As with UT2003, Linux support will be included in the box with UT2004. This time we'll make sure it gets mentioned on the box. In case you also weren't aware of this: the Windows version of UT2004 will include native 64-bit support for AMD Athlon 64. Tim Sweeney and Ryan Gordon demonstrated the 64-bit version of UT2004 at today's AMD64 launch event in San Francisco. Last edited by Mark Rein; 09-24-2003 at 11:19 AM.

09-23-2003, 11:19 PM	#2
Logy Klaatu Barada Nikto Join Date: May 2000 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 1,143	There was an AMD 64 launch thingy with UT2004 in SF and I missed it? D'OH! Oh, well. Many thanks to Epic for their continued support of freedom of choice. __________________ "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." - E. F. Schumacher Subscribe to the Linux UT2004 mailing list! Hang out with Soft Cuddly Bunnies!

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09-23-2003, 11:35 PM	#3
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09-24-2003, 04:20 AM	#8
Wanlor Guest Posts: n/a	Great stuff AMD RULEZZZZZ FOREVER AND EVAR AND EVA!!!!!!! Web cast is available on AMD's web site, check "News" section.

09-24-2003, 05:54 AM	#9
kiddailey Map whore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 502	It's really good to hear this -- that cross platform development is happening at the same time and/or in rapid succession. Awesome!

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09-24-2003, 01:10 PM	#11
Mujoo New Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 28	Since cross platform development is simultaneous this time round, will Mac users get a map editor also? Plzzzz if you enable one for us I'll by UTK4. If it doesn't, I'm sticking to UTK3 -Mujoo

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LeJimster Banned By Warning System. Read the rules so you don't end up like this user! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 390	Mujoo i dont think its a simple task to do porting the editor.. So my guess is no.. Plus they'd haveto support the editor if they did a mac version, and i dont see that happening.

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09-25-2003, 02:11 AM	#21
Wanlor Guest Posts: n/a	I wonder if its possible for 32bit .exe running on a 64bit CPU, detect that the CPU is 64bit and use the 64bit extensions/larger registers/other stuff, thus achiving better results. I guess this is more programming work though.

09-25-2003, 03:10 AM	#22
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09-25-2003, 07:12 AM	#23
Pixelschubser Guest Posts: n/a	Good News! And my first UT2004 question: WHRER IS MY MAC OS X DEMO!

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Thraka New Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5	I have a friend on the MS OS Test group and they say the AMD 64 has GREAT 32 bit compatability and Intel doesn't have any.

09-25-2003, 12:35 PM	#27
MrCamper Design is Law Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 97	I know its early, but have there been any published benchmarks between WIN32 and WIN64 UT2k4 either by Epic or someone else?? ....AND, is the WIndows XP 64 gonna be available in a public beta release by release time of UT2k4?? __________________ A Noble life demands a noble architecture for noble uses of noble men. (FLLW, 1953) - Architecture in Unreal - 6 million polygons and counting!!!!

09-25-2003, 03:44 PM	#30
Lightkey Guest Posts: n/a	Linux 64? As I heard from gamestar.de, there will be a 64Bit Linux Version too for the AMD64 platform, but I can't interpret that from Marks posting. So will there be one or not? (although I could ask icculus directly, but he isn't in the channel as often as before, seems very busy g)

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