Max Resolution???

Can anyone tell me what the maximum resolution that TOEE will be able to be played at? I have looked all over and can not find a definative answer.

Thanks

[Sheriff05]

IIRC the uberfaq listed that it goes up to 1280 X1024 , thankfully

Thanks for the info Sheriff!

[smoret]

Originally posted by Sheriff05
IIRC the uberfaq listed that it goes up to 1280 X1024 , thankfully

We may have to lockdown the resolutions because of interface resizing issues. This is still in debate, and will most likely get resolved soon but I'm not going to promise that anything besides 800x600 will work flawlessly out of the box.

We will try and keep you posted on the situation.

[Sheriff05]

NO!!!!, what res are the screens taken from???
please at least gives the option of going higher that 800 X 600 even if its unsupported
IF I have to play another god damn 800 X 600 game in 2003 I am going to throw my monitor out the window..seriously

That's some bad news Steve. Please, please, please do your magic and make it work in higher resolutions. This is the first negative news on ToEE I've heard so far - and I AM aware of that it's not in any way definite.

[magao]

Remember that ToEE will play somewhat like Arcanum in fullscreen mode. There's a lot more space on the screen when it's not taken up by the interface. Just compare the feeling of freedom in fullscreen mode in Arcanum to having the interface in place. Now consider that the interface will *never* have to be in place.

FWIW, I'll almost certainly be playing in 800x600 no matter what resolutions are available. I have a 17" monitor, and sprites in isometric games just look too small to me in higher resolutions.

[smoret]

Originally posted by Whipporowill
That's some bad news Steve. Please, please, please do your magic and make it work in higher resolutions. This is the first negative news on ToEE I've heard so far - and I AM aware of that it's not in any way definite.

It is our goal to squash all of the interface in odd resolution bugs before we go gold but if that doesn't happen you'll have to run the game with a special flag to get those higher resolutions enumerated.

They are localized to very small portions of interface but we just can't be a professional title and ship with those kinds of interface errors.

Magically create us some more time and we'll fix them all for ya.

[Sheriff05]

Originally posted by smoret
It is our goal to squash all of the interface in odd resolution bugs before we go gold but if that doesn't happen you'll have to run the game with a special flag to get those higher resolutions enumerated.

They are localized to very small portions of interface but we just can't be a professional title and ship with those kinds of interface errors.

Magically create us some more time and we'll fix them all for ya.

Flag it so we can use higher resolution by choice upon the scheduled release (I assume you edit the .ini file?)

then fix the resolution interface issue in a subsquent patch...
Deal??

I hope so.....

Originally posted by smoret
It is our goal to squash all of the interface in odd resolution bugs before we go gold but if that doesn't happen you'll have to run the game with a special flag to get those higher resolutions enumerated.

They are localized to very small portions of interface but we just can't be a professional title and ship with those kinds of interface errors.

Magically create us some more time and we'll fix them all for ya.

As much as I hate locked resolution, I would have to say that I completely understand this decision. I think its much worse to send a buggy/unfinished game then one that its not on par graphically.

HOWEVER, keep in mind that Gamespot just ripped LH for having this.

by Gamespot
Also, the game is locked at 800x600 resolution, which considerably limits your field of vision and makes ranged attacks less effective than they ought to be, since you'll typically be able to fire off just one or two arrows or spells before your enemy is upon you.

I am sure your games combat will not be as poorly designed, though. I hope...

This is a PC game, just have a patch ready on release ... it is what we expect (and what Lionheart should have done).

Originally posted by smoret
Magically create us some more time and we'll fix them all for ya.

Gee, I wish I could?

No, seriously. I'm aware that you guys are probably working your collective bee-hinds of making ToEE a grand game. The resolution issue isn't THAT important to me, but I'm aware that the game will probably catch some undeserved flak for it, as it seems that to some this is a MAJOR issue. I'm just wanting this to be the best game it can be, both for me as a player, and saleswise for you guys at Troika...

... after all I AM Troikaholic, ain't I?

[Sheriff05]

a locked 800 X 600 res is a MAJOR negative issue, unsupported higher resolutions at the user discretion with promises of a patch are fine, just don't make everyone with a bigger than 17" monitor suffer, I wont even go into the CRT vs LCD debate.....

[seanly]

Hmmm, this isn't good. I don't personally mind playing 800x600 though it might look a little pixelated (cough infinity engine cough). I worry that reviewers will crap all over this game if the resolution is locked at 800x600.

I personally don't care about what res it's in, as I play a CRPG for the "roleplaying" element ...

BUT. As has been previously stated in this thread, I hope the option for changing the res is in, because if it's not the reviewers will start making comparisons to Lionheart. And right now, that's not a good thing.

Originally posted by seanly
Hmmm, this isn't good. I don't personally mind playing 800x600 though it might look a little pixelated (cough infinity engine cough). I worry that reviewers will crap all over this game if the resolution is locked at 800x600.

I just posted, but in case you missed it, this is from Gamespot on LH.

Also, the game is locked at 800x600 resolution, which considerably limits your field of vision and makes ranged attacks less effective than they ought to be, since you'll typically be able to fire off just one or two arrows or spells before your enemy is upon you.

In today's gaming world people will find anything to complain about, especially something that we all take for granted. I agree with the person that said it should be unlockable maybe in a .ini file.

Yep. Saw your post. And you're right. Even if gameplay is astronomical, original, and incredibly well thought out, SOMEONE will complain about SOMETHING. And unfortunately when game reviewers complain, quite a few people listen. This is unfortunate for those players that like the game getting bashed. Regardless of the truth of the review, or how impartial ... because it'll affect how much support will come from producers. The less money the game makes (due to bad reviews), the less time, post release, will be devoted to the badly received product ...

Thus ... give no ammunition. Or rather, as little as possible. That way we can have a good, well supported game. With high probability of a sequel!

:-)

With a 19" monitor 800 X 600 is a little pixelated. I would really like to see higher resolutions, even unsupported.

Originally posted by DeathDealer
With a 19" monitor 800 X 600 is a little pixelated. I would really like to see higher resolutions, even unsupported.

It's even worse with 19"LCD that I have.

The 800 x 600 is the # 1 reason I didnt buy LH. This game looks to good to pass up. Pleasse support Higher Resolutions!!! My monitor will be right behind the Sheriff's!

Well, I'm still in the stone age and own a 15' monitor so I'm not too upset...

But I might buy a new BIGGER monitor and then I would be.


dragon

[Sheriff05]

It was with much relief when I read in the uberfaq way back earlier in the spring that Troika had made the wise decision to support 1024 X1280 resolution right out the gate.
(for those of you that don't know the default resolution of 17" and larger LCD monitors, the fastest growing market in monitor sales) Then to find this out at the 11th hour, is a bit alarming
I would think the "resolutions issue" would have merited more of priority in terms of what needs to get done before release.

Hopefully Troika will take this issue head on, keep us informed
give us unsupported resolutions and a quick patch to fix the game so its runs at 800 x 600, 1024 X 768, and 1280 X1024 without issue. This is the first "dropped ball" I have seen during this games development and I am still expecting this will be the best RPG ever made, period

I suppose that the very low resolution might be more palatable so long as anti-aliasing is supported. It frustrates me no end playing low-res games that experience all sorts of graphical tearing and strangeness when anti-aliasing is on (aka pool of radiance, arcanum).

Originally posted by Sheriff05
a locked 800 X 600 res is a MAJOR negative issue, unsupported higher resolutions at the user discretion with promises of a patch are fine, just don't make everyone with a bigger than 17" monitor suffer, I wont even go into the CRT vs LCD debate.....

Okay... This came up on the moo3 board [that game was also locked to 800x600].

Since when is it suffering?

Nobody has yet to be able to explain this to me sufficiently. I wonder if it's because I grew up on 320x200 x 16 colors and now there's people that grew up with TNT2's and are just spoiled...

*shrug* 800x600 is perfectly fine, even on a nice snazzy sony 21" as long as the models are scaled correctly.

I guess it is a bit of being spoiled as Telastyn suggested. But then again, if developers are competing for our gaming dollar, the technology in their games should be better than the competitors and offer the most to consumers with low, mid, and high-end systems.

[Sheriff05]

Originally posted by Telastyn
Okay... This came up on the moo3 board [that game was also locked to 800x600].

Since when is it suffering?

Nobody has yet to be able to explain this to me sufficiently. I wonder if it's because I grew up on 320x200 x 16 colors and now there's people that grew up with TNT2's and are just spoiled...

*shrug* 800x600 is perfectly fine, even on a nice snazzy sony 21" as long as the models are scaled correctly.

LOL! I hear this everytime the resolution debate comes up,

it's not about being spoiled, I have been running computer games since text games on my old tandy systems, and to me 800 X 600 in 2003 is crap, your opinion of course may vary, just accept the fact that to some this is a big issue..personally the resolution was the main reason I was not interested in buying moo3 (other than I saw the writing on the wall that it would be garbage- you may disagree -No Moo3 discussions please!)
personally I invest alot of money into my systems and hardware and when I pay $50.00 for a game, I want it to look the way I want it to look....it's that simple.
IMHO..no game should even be considered for development in 2003 IF it's not willing to support multiple resolutions.

Originally posted by Sheriff05
LOL! I hear this everytime the resolution debate comes up,

it's not about being spoiled, I have been running computer games since text games on my old tandy systems, and to me 800 X 600 in 2003 is crap, your opinion of course may vary, just accept the fact that to some this is a big issue..personally the resolution was the main reason I was not interested in buying moo3 (other than I saw the writing on the wall that it would be garbage- you may disagree -No Moo3 discussions please!)
personally I invest alot of money into my systems and hardware and when I pay $50.00 for a game, I want it to look the way I want it to look....it's that simple.
IMHO..no game should even be considered for development in 2003 IF it's not willing to support multiple resolutions.

<snip> Deleted on better judgement

I should just change my name to The Deputy cause I agree with the Sheriff 100%

[Sheriff05]

Originally posted by Telastyn
Heh, okay. Just making sure you wanted pretty more than good.

Too Late....

Ok, so your implying that I only care how it "looks" and not how it "plays"??, first off if any game is going to succeed it's about the complete package, having to put potential buyers in a position to have go out and buy a 15-17" CRT to make a game look good because it's got a locked 800 X 600 res..isn't exactly the best marketing decision is it?..
Just because you bought your machine and monitor at the thrift store, doesn't mean this is not an issue to many people-

anyway this is a moot point...I have faith Troika will step up on this one.

Originally posted by Sheriff05
Too Late....

Ok, so your implying that I only care how it "looks" and not how it "plays"??, first off if any game is going to succeed it's about the complete package, having to put potential buyers in a position to have go out a by a 15-17" CRT to make a game look good because it's got a locked 800 X 600 res..isn't exactly the best marketing decision is it?..
Just because you bought your machine and monitor at the thrift store, doesn't mean this is not an issue to many people-

anyway this is a moot point...I have faith Troika will step up on this one.

And you're implying that it doesn't look good in 800x600 except on a 15-17" CRT. I disagree. Given that pretty much everyone here has played Arcanum, and it was perfectly fine at 800x600, I don't see why now it's suddenly unacceptable.

And yes, it likely is a moot point.