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Mecha-Godzilla 74 17 26.56%
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Old 10-18-2004, 01:36 PM   #1
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Mecha-Godzilla Brawl

Who Would Win Between The 3 MG's If all of them were together, same place, and same time?

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Old 10-18-2004, 02:21 PM   #2
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I would have...

I would have voted for MechaG 2. The beam buster is a cool weapon and you can fire it and block your opponent's weapons fire. That would be hard to do with Kiryu's maser. Reason why I ultimately voted for Kiryu is the quicker mobility. MG 2 is slower in walking, and encountered some overheating problems. However, I was a big fan of the Plasma Grenade cannon.
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Mechagodzilla 93' has the upper hand in this one.
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If the sizes were relative, Kiryu would win. He is the better robot, either way you look at it.
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I think MG 74 and Kiryu would tie or someone would win. I think it would be an awesome battle. If I do remember MG 74 has that shield that ha can make by spinning his head. This might overpower kiryu's subzero blast, and if kiryu were to also touch the shield, it would impail damage to the robot. Plus, Kiryu runs on a battery kinda of thing. MG 74 doesn't, at least in the movie it was never made known to its viewers. Plus if Kiryu was running out of power, it would have to retreat some where to recharge. I think Mecha-Godzilla 74 would win in this case.

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Old 10-18-2004, 08:33 PM   #6
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MechaGodzilla 93 is the biggest mechagodzilla and he can deflect beam weapons and plasma greanade would vaporize the other two.
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Lets not forget all 3 Mecha's are together fighting one another. If Kiryu and MG 93 were fighting, that would leave MG 74 in the background ganging up on both. But then again, both Kiryu and MG 93 are controlled by humans, so why would they be fighting any ways? So MG 74 would lose, without a doubt. Lets change the setting a little. 2 different type of Alien forms are trying to take over the earth. They both hate each other and both want the earth for there own dominion. One owns MG 74 and Kiryu. Earth owns MG 93. Now who's gonna win, when it's all three of them fighting against each other?
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You still forgot to put it to relative size.




Kiryu is faster, stronger, has better armor, an electric blade.. Oh yeah. Kiryu is still victorious.

MG1's design is so faulty I'm surprised it can even move. Its shield is nothing to gawk at, as he can't attack while implementing it, and physical force can disrupt it.

MG2 is SLOW. Against MG1 and Kiryu, that is a very, very bad thing.
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So your saying that Kiryu wouldn't get a scratch from either of the two? MG2 Plasma grenade does a lot of damge, and MG1 all weapon attack can put some damage scars on kiryu too. KIRYU RUNS ON A BATTERY PACK!!!!!! What is the battle were to last so long. Say MG1 is destroyed, MG2 is left standing. Kiryu is very close to running out of power. I can see Kiryu defeating both of these oppenents, but i find it difficult to do. You know after the beginning of the fight, two of the MG's would probably team up against the BIGGER THREAT. The setting i last posted said to alien groups and earth. Since both alien groups are fighting for earth, they're going to fight each other more than the earths MG.
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Please. MG '74 >>>>>>>>>> all other imposter Mecha-G's.

Missiles from his fingers, neck, knees, and toes, cool rainbow-eyebeams, mountain-slicing electric beam-thing, a force shield, and an unlimited ability to use those weapons - not to mention his kinda-Godzilla-fire breath weapon. He kicked the bejeebies out of Angilas and forced him to retreat (Ghidorah couldn't even do that), whipped on Godzilla the first time they met (arguable, since he did get his head messed up), and beat up King Ceasar but good. In fact, he took on both Godzilla AND Ceasar and was totally beating the fishsticks out of them with his nutball postal-attack thing, until Godzilla turned himself into... a MAGNET (because that makes logical sense).

And Trenton, where are you getting that Kiryu has better armor? MG1 is made from Space Titanium - I can't be sure exactly what that even means, but I'm sure it means that since MG1 was made by advanced insterstellar aliens using alien metallurgy technology, they probably can make an armor structure AT LEAST as good as humans can. Just checking to where you were getting that from.

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So your saying that Kiryu wouldn't get a scratch from either of the two? MG2 Plasma grenade does a lot of damge, and MG1 all weapon attack can put some damage scars on kiryu too. KIRYU RUNS ON A BATTERY PACK!!!!!! What is the battle were to last so long. Say MG1 is destroyed, MG2 is left standing. Kiryu is very close to running out of power. I can see Kiryu defeating both of these oppenents, but i find it difficult to do. You know after the beginning of the fight, two of the MG's would probably team up against the BIGGER THREAT. The setting i last posted said to alien groups and earth. Since both alien groups are fighting for earth, they're going to fight each other more than the earths MG.
yeah kiryu would be out of energy and mg2 would be going threw a meltdown crisis.
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Please. MG '74 >>>>>>>>>> all other imposter Mecha-G's.

Missiles from his fingers, neck, knees, and toes, cool rainbow-eyebeams, mountain-slicing electric beam-thing, a force shield, and an unlimited ability to use those weapons - not to mention his kinda-Godzilla-fire breath weapon. He kicked the bejeebies out of Angilas and forced him to retreat (Ghidorah couldn't even do that), whipped on Godzilla the first time they met (arguable, since he did get his head messed up), and beat up King Ceasar but good. In fact, he took on both Godzilla AND Ceasar and was totally beating the fishsticks out of them with his nutball postal-attack thing, until Godzilla turned himself into... a MAGNET (because that makes logical sense).

And Trenton, where are you getting that Kiryu has better armor? MG1 is made from Space Titanium - I can't be sure exactly what that even means, but I'm sure it means that since MG1 was made by advanced insterstellar aliens using alien metallurgy technology, they probably can make an armor structure AT LEAST as good as humans can. Just checking to where you were getting that from.

aren't you forgetting that whatever they shoot at MG2 would bounce right off probably not those missle but he still has his NT20-SHIELD.
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aren't you forgetting that whatever they shoot at MG2 would bounce right off probably not those missle but he still has his NT20-SHIELD.
Yes, the impressive NT20 Armor that damages under the slightest physical attack.
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So your saying that Kiryu wouldn't get a scratch from either of the two?
I'm saying that the pilot for Kiryu is one of the best, if not the best pilot in a Godzilla movie, bar none. Multiple-man piloting always fails, and remote-controlled AI can only go so far. Akane is a one-woman fighting machine who can make split-second decisions without having to get approval from anyone else or being limited to an AI program. Coupled with the fact that Kiryu runs on a DNA data processor(which means he's multitudes faster to react than MG1 or MG2 can EVER hope to be) and the undeniable truth that Kiryu totally kicks both MG1 and MG2's asses when it comes to hand-to-hand combat(not to mention having an ELECTRIC blade that can swiftly one-hit KO any one of the other MG's), and these two have it made.

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MG2 Plasma grenade does a lot of damge, and MG1 all weapon attack can put some damage scars on kiryu too. KIRYU RUNS ON A BATTERY PACK!!!!!! What is the battle were to last so long. Say MG1 is destroyed, MG2 is left standing. Kiryu is very close to running out of power. I can see Kiryu defeating both of these oppenents, but i find it difficult to do. You know after the beginning of the fight, two of the MG's would probably team up against the BIGGER THREAT. The setting i last posted said to alien groups and earth. Since both alien groups are fighting for earth, they're going to fight each other more than the earths MG
You know that the AZC fires in 8 seconds? Getting behind MG2 is going to give Kiryu just enough time to turn MG2 into a popsicle.

Yes, Kiryu runs on a battery pack. So did Eva-01 of Evangelion. Nowadays, when a giant mecha has a time-limit, that means it is capable of doing SERIOUS damage.

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He kicked the bejeebies out of Angilas and forced him to retreat (Ghidorah couldn't even do that),
Because Ghidorah doesn't have the arms necesary to break Anguirus' jaw the way MG did.

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whipped on Godzilla the first time they met (arguable, since he did get his head messed up), and beat up King Ceasar but good. In fact, he took on both Godzilla AND Ceasar and was totally beating the fishsticks out of them with his nutball postal-attack thing, until Godzilla turned himself into... a MAGNET (because that makes logical sense).
Kiryu can do the same, and in some ways better.

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And Trenton, where are you getting that Kiryu has better armor? MG1 is made from Space Titanium - I can't be sure exactly what that even means, but I'm sure it means that since MG1 was made by advanced insterstellar aliens using alien metallurgy technology, they probably can make an armor structure AT LEAST as good as humans can. Just checking to where you were getting that from.
Uh oh, space titanium!

Better head for the hills, the Planet-of-the-Apes rejects have space titanium on their side!

MG1 was made by advanced interstellar aliens coming from a *dying planet*. That means little to no resources available. That means poorly-constructed robots. That means, you guessed it, MG1. MG1's armor is so poorly made, King Ceasar's headbutts are able to make dents on it and cause MG1 to have sparks and smoke flying. Hell, Godzilla was able to screw his head off. If MG1 was designed well, Goji would not have been able to do that.
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Kiryu can do the same, and in some ways better.
And you know this because... ??

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Uh oh, space titanium!

Better head for the hills, the Planet-of-the-Apes rejects have space titanium on their side!

MG1 was made by advanced interstellar aliens coming from a *dying planet*. That means little to no resources available. That means poorly-constructed robots. That means, you guessed it, MG1. MG1's armor is so poorly made, King Ceasar's headbutts are able to make dents on it and cause MG1 to have sparks and smoke flying. Hell, Godzilla was able to screw his head off. If MG1 was designed well, Goji would not have been able to do that.
Yes, there were from a dying planet, but that doesn't mean that MG1 was poorly made. They obviously had enough resources to make it to Earth in the first place, I imagine they also had the resources to make sure their MechaGodzilla was in good working order. And in any case, you still have yet to tell me how that makes Kiryu's armor *better*. A poorly made space-robot may still be superior to the best made human robot, especially when the original creators have achieved interstellar travel. Their technology level is STILL higher. Plus their MechaGodzilla didn't flip out and had no battery pack.

MG1 >>>>>>>> Kiryu.
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Yes, there were from a dying planet, but that doesn't mean that MG1 was poorly made. They obviously had enough resources to make it to Earth in the first place, I imagine they also had the resources to make sure their MechaGodzilla was in good working order. And in any case, you still have yet to tell me how that makes Kiryu's armor *better*. A poorly made space-robot may still be superior to the best made human robot, especially when the original creators have achieved interstellar travel. Their technology level is STILL higher. Plus their MechaGodzilla didn't flip out and had no battery pack.

MG1 >>>>>>>> Kiryu.
Kiryu is quite durable to both physical attacks, whick MG 93 was not, and the more powerful heat ray Godzilla used.
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Kiryu is quite durable to both physical attacks, whick MG 93 was not, and the more powerful heat ray Godzilla used.
HEY YOU! BUTT OUT!

Just kidding - dont beat me up.

Anyway, if 'm not mistaken (and I often am), wasn't Kiryu missing an arm and have a hole punched in his chest at the end of GxM? MG1 still had both of HIS arms. Just not his head... but the second one could even operate WITHOUT his head! HA!

MG1 >>>>>>>>>>>> ALL
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Isn't kiryu the only MG to use his hands to grab and punch.Do you think MG2 should at least a little evidence about his shockanchors/G-CRUSHER.
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It's about time we got people talking on this thread lol. I know that Kiryu is the fastest of all MG's, i think we all agree on that. He's more agile and reacts because of the DNA processor. He could wipe both MG1 and MG2 out, if he was going against one at a time. I realize that MG1's armor was easily damaged in the first one, but in the second movie, he was constructed into a better robot. I guess you can say the same thing about Kiryu. MG1 may be slow, but think about it. Once it realeases all of its attacks at once on Kiryu, what do you think would happen? Sure if Kiryu got close to MG1 he would slap MG1 silly. But MG1 Wouldn't let that happen. MG1 would simply activate that force field. Leaving Kiryu open for attack by MG2. What if MG2 used those G cables? What do you think would happen to Kiryu then? MG1 would stop the force field and blast the hell out of Kiryu! I'm not against Kiryu or anything, I just believe that MG1 is one of G's most deadliest foes.
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Kiryu has better armor than MG1, is faster, and a better fighter. Do the math.

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Yes, there were from a dying planet, but that doesn't mean that MG1 was poorly made.
You're right. Being turned into crap from simple headbutts and screwable heads mean MG1 was poorly made.

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And in any case, you still have yet to tell me how that makes Kiryu's armor *better*. A poorly made space-robot may still be superior to the best made human robot, especially when the original creators have achieved interstellar travel. Their technology level is STILL higher.
Have you seen both movies?

The only time Kiryu's armor ever dented or was breached or even turned black from burn was when Godzilla shot close-range blasts. This Godzilla is incredibly powerful, and can easily defeat MG1 on his own. Yet Kiryu stayed in the game and lasted long.

MG1, meanwhile, was smoking, sparks flying, and dented beyond repair from headbutts from Ceasar. Then, there's the fact that MG1's head can be twisted off.

The evidence is all there. Just because the monkeys have achieved space-travel doesn't mean they know how to make combat-effective robots.

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Plus their MechaGodzilla didn't flip out and had no battery pack.
If their MechaGodzilla flipped out, it wouldn't have destroyed a city, rather collapse to the ground, head spinning and arms jerking.

They're MechaGodzilla could have used a rechargeable battery-pack. Maybe they would have beaten Godzilla then by focusing more on its capabilities than on how long it can stay outdoors.
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I realize that MG1's armor was easily damaged in the first one, but in the second movie, he was constructed into a better robot.
He lost his shield and I believe one of his beams. Godzilla was able to trounce him one-on-one.

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MG1 may be slow, but think about it. Once it realeases all of its attacks at once on Kiryu, what do you think would happen?
Those attacks aren't enough to destroy Kiryu. Did they destroy King Ceasar or Godzilla?

Kiryu can very easily boost out of the line of fire and dash-ram MG1.

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MG1 would simply activate that force field.
Which Akane isn't stupid enought o have Kiryu try and rush into. Physical strikes can disrupt the field, and missiles can do that keenly.

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Leaving Kiryu open for attack by MG2.
Or MG1 open to attack by MG2. Unless this is a 2 on 1
MG1 is the more destructive of the three, so wouldn't MG2 decide to go after it first?

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What if MG2 used those G cables? What do you think would happen to Kiryu then?
He'd get fried. The same thing would happen if MG2 used it on MG1, or if Kiryu used the electric blade on either one of them.

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I just believe that MG1 is one of G's most deadliest foes.
He is one of *SHOWA* Godzilla's deadliest foes. He falls short against Heisei Godzilla and any Millenium Godzilla. This is why they always upgraded/ improved on him.
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Kiryu has better armor than MG1, is faster, and a better fighter. Do the math.
I'm going to do different math instead.

I don't believe I was rude to you, but you have felt the need to be rude to everyone else who has responded to this thread, as if you are superior with your vast Godzilla knowledge. Here's the deal - how about you admit you are simply a Kiryu fanboy and really have little evidence to back your claims? I was under the impression that we were in a more friendly discussion that you obviously did.

Okay, you've made your point. I'm done discussing this with you. Now go outside and play, punk.
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MG2 could go after MG1, since he's more destructive. I totally i agree that he's the most deadliest foes of showa. But if i do remember... G-fan Magazine has G's top 10 most dealiest foes for showa and heisie series both, together. MG2 was like the number three. MG! was the deadliest foe! I don't know where Kiryu would fit. MG2 has actually killed Godzilla, but Rodan revived him. MG1, was supposedly to kill MG1 or mortally wound him, But the big G healed up. Kiryu hasn't come close yet. I'll continue later i got to go to class.
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I don't believe I was rude to you, but you have felt the need to be rude to everyone else who has responded to this thread, as if you are superior with your vast Godzilla knowledge. Here's the deal - how about you admit you are simply a Kiryu fanboy and really have little evidence to back your claims? I was under the impression that we were in a more friendly discussion that you obviously did.
Someone needs to chill out.

Just because I discuss aggressively doesn't mean I'm attempting to offend anyone. If you took it as rudeness, then I'm sorry.

However, you wanna play the fanboy card? Fine.

If I were a Kiryu fanboy, then I wouldn't have shown instances where MG1's armor was breached and Kiryu's wasn't in physical combat. I wouldn't have brought up the fact that Kiryu's DNA Data processor makes him multiple times a faster thinker than MG1. The only thing you have brought to the table is that MG1 is from space, so he *must* be technologically superior to anything the Earth ever makes. If anything, I'd the say only fanboy here would be you to the Showa MechaGodzilla.

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Okay, you've made your point. I'm done discussing this with you. Now go outside and play, punk.
Look who's calling who rude.

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MG2 could go after MG1, since he's more destructive. I totally i agree that he's the most deadliest foes of showa. But if i do remember... G-fan Magazine has G's top 10 most dealiest foes for showa and heisie series both, together. MG2 was like the number three. MG! was the deadliest foe! I don't know where Kiryu would fit. MG2 has actually killed Godzilla, but Rodan revived him. MG1, was supposedly to kill MG1 or mortally wound him, But the big G healed up. Kiryu hasn't come close yet.
You have to also realize just how strong Kiryu-Goji is. He survived being shot by the Absolute Zero Cannon in the chest in close-range(if it were done over water, he would have died, but even a weakened version was enough to give him a scar that can never be healed, not even by regeneration). He's gotten up after being flung miles into the air. He's got enough strength to send Kiryu into a faraway building with a leg-push, his radioactive breath is strong enough to send Kiryu flying high, strong enough to put Mothra in flames(How many other Godzillas have been able to make Mothra blow up?). Not only is Kiryu-Goji's beam strong, but lightning fast. Where anyother MG would have been shot in the face, Kiryu's reflexes are so fast that when he evades it, there is an actual motion trail ala bullet-time style. He's survived god-knows-how-many massive explosions that would have made any other Godzilla fall to the ground. In Tokyo SOS, he's in Tokyo, fighting and taking punishment, for nearly a full day. This Godzilla is not something to take lightly, and he would have decimated Showa MechaGodzilla and blasted MG2 away before he could come back with a Godzilla-killing weapon.

However, you're incorrect in Kiryu not coming close. He did defeat Godzilla at the end of Tokyo SOS, with the help of his drill-arm and Hyper Maser cannon. He left Godzilla near-death(or dead), just like the other MechaGodzilla's have.
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I forgot about tokyo sos lol. I actually havn't seen it yet, but i really want it. When does it come to the USA? I don't think your being rude. U just know your facts. I didn't know Kiryu had almost left Godzilla near death in tokyo sos. But in any case. I would vote Kiryu, But my sights are set on MG1, just because. I like Kiryu design better though. Seems like in this thread, MG2 has been ignored during this fight between the three, theres been more talk about MG1 and Kiryu. I think there was a thing about MG2 being taller... Wouldn't that make it easier for him to destroy Kiryu and MG2?
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I forgot about tokyo sos lol. I actually havn't seen it yet, but i really want it. When does it come to the USA?
Unfortunately, we have to wait yet another month before it comes out on DVD. It is released December 14th.

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I didn't know Kiryu had almost left Godzilla near death in tokyo sos.
A little teaser: as Kiryu stands over the now silked-up(thanks to the larva) body of Godzilla, his "old" programming kicks in one last time.

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Seems like in this thread, MG2 has been ignored during this fight between the three, theres been more talk about MG1 and Kiryu.
MG1 is very popular in the States. Kiryu has gotten critical fame in Japan. That's why they gave him 2 movies.

MG2 is the only MechaGodzilla to only have one movie.

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theres been more talk about MG1 and Kiryu. I think there was a thing about MG2 being taller... Wouldn't that make it easier for him to destroy Kiryu and MG2?
In all honesty, MG2 is the victor of this match because he's twice both other mech's size. Even if he's inferior to Kiryu in design, he's still victorious because he's so damn big.


It's when you put all three mecha at the same size that you can truely determine which is the superior model.
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Couldn't agree anymore. So If MG2 is like way taller then both MG1 and Kiryu, Does that mean he's taller then The new Godzilla?

Question: In tokyo sos Does Kiryu get destroyed? Don't tell me by who or how please.
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Old 10-22-2004, 05:53 PM   #28
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Couldn't agree anymore. So If MG2 is like way taller then both MG1 and Kiryu, Does that mean he's taller then The new Godzilla?
Yes. MechaGodzilla 2 is taller than any Godzilla around.

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Question: In tokyo sos Does Kiryu get destroyed? Don't tell me by who or how please.
He doesn't get "destroyed".. but I will say that he is gone for good.
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Old 10-22-2004, 05:56 PM   #29
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No, he ends up with no real damage at all, surprisingly.
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Old 10-22-2004, 06:12 PM   #30
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[b]Someone needs to chill out.

Just because I discuss aggressively doesn't mean I'm attempting to offend anyone. If you took it as rudeness, then I'm sorry.
I did, and you meant it as rudeness. If you didn't, you would have chosen your words differently, but you chose to belittle instead. That isn't aggessiveness - it's plain rude. But in the end, it doesn't really matter how you come across over the internet, does it?

But, if you are truly sorry, then I'm not one to hold a grudge. You and I have a similar interest that we both share, and we probably have others. I'd rather just get along if we can. To that end, I offer my apologies as well.

But Kiryu is still an imposter.
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